The Charlie Kirk Show - They Hate Me, They Hate Me Not—What I Learned at UC Santa Barbara
Aired: 2023-03-02
Duration: 37:32


=== Free Speech on Campus (15:03) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:00:02]  I reflect on my trip to Santa Barbara at University of California, Santa Barbara.
[00:00:06]  And then we talk about the long march through the institutions.
[00:00:09]  Get involved with TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.
[00:00:13]  That is tpusa.com.
[00:00:16]  Start a high school or a college chapter at tpusa.com.
[00:00:19]  Email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:00:22]  Your thoughts on this podcast, this episode, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:00:26]  Support our program, charliekirk.com/slash support.
[00:00:30]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:00:31]  Here we go.
[00:00:32]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:34]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:00:36]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:39]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:43]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:44]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:45]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:00:53]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:02]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:05]  Brought to you by Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage.
[00:01:08]  For personalized loan services, you can count on.
[00:01:10]  Go to andrewandtodd.com, the wonderfulandrewandodd.com.
[00:01:17]  Last evening, I gave a speech at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
[00:01:22]  Here's the good news: You want some hope for America?
[00:01:24]  We could not find a room big enough to fit all the students that were interested and curious to attend our event.
[00:01:30]  We had to turn away anywhere between 80 to 200 students last night.
[00:01:34]  Now, that's upsetting in one sense.
[00:01:36]  We should have been able to get a bigger room, but to the credit of University of California, Santa Barbara, they were accommodating.
[00:01:41]  We got the room.
[00:01:43]  The microphones worked, which sometimes doesn't always happen when you go on college campus.
[00:01:46]  They deserve credit for that.
[00:01:48]  It's very interesting.
[00:01:49]  Not only did I visit and give a speech in the evening, I embedded myself right on the campus itself.
[00:01:56]  By the way, this is the number one news story right now at the Daily Beast.
[00:01:59]  Must be a very slow news day where Charlie Kirk speaks at California University and clashes break out.
[00:02:06]  Okay, that's a little bit of an exaggeration.
[00:02:08]  So I set up a card table for two hours on campus yesterday and I just ask questions about any topic that they want to explore certainly attracts interest and curiosity.
[00:02:20]  But the first hour, and I'm there for about two hours, they've never had an opportunity before to have robust, rigorous dialogue or debate with a conservative who has thought deeply about these issues.
[00:02:37]  Now, I'll give credit to actually the students at University of California, Santa Barbara.
[00:02:41]  They are not stupid.
[00:02:43]  I have done this all across the country.
[00:02:45]  They are actually some of the more knowledgeable.
[00:02:49]  And I would say, on top of the issues, students, I would even go as far as say they were almost smarter than the UC Berkeley kids, to be honest.
[00:02:59]  UC Santa Barbara, you could tell that these kids are, you know, scoring high test scores, that they're reading the news.
[00:03:08]  However, as I was sitting there, despite all the insults, people telling me to go that, and I'll read, you know, go to hell and all that stuff.
[00:03:15]  That's all whatever.
[00:03:16]  That's normal.
[00:03:17]  They first treat you as if you're an extraterrestrial.
[00:03:20]  And I don't mean that negatively.
[00:03:21]  Again, many of them were very kind and very sweet, but you could tell that they've never seen such a thing.
[00:03:30]  For someone to come and say that America is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world, that systemic racism does not exist in America, that institutional racism does not exist.
[00:03:43]  Almost like an animal at a zoo, like a circus act almost.
[00:03:46]  They look at you and they cannot in the moment process it because it's usually met with just like laughing and smirking and looking at their friends like, could you believe this guy?
[00:03:56]  This guy just said we need a border.
[00:03:59]  But the importance of going to places where our message has not been heard is of the, it is mission critical to the civilization.
[00:04:09]  I hear all the time and people say, Charlie, I'm tired of preaching to the choir.
[00:04:12]  I actually think the choir needs to hear the sermon every so often.
[00:04:15]  We got to make sure that the troops know what they believe and why they believe it.
[00:04:21]  I speak at churches.
[00:04:22]  I speak at places where 99% of the people there agree with what I say.
[00:04:26]  Last night was not one of those cases, and I actually enjoy it even more.
[00:04:30]  Now, it's so deceiving.
[00:04:31]  The Daily Nexus, which I think is the local student newspaper of the University of California Santa Barbara, instead of talking about the fact that we packed out the auditorium and that we had amazing dialogue, and I even agreed with a Marxist, and that tape will be coming out soon.
[00:04:48]  This is so typical of a student newspaper.
[00:04:50]  But, you know, these student newspaper types will then be hired by the media.
[00:04:54]  Student protests, students protest TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk's visit.
[00:04:59]  That's such a misleading headline.
[00:05:01]  That wasn't the essence of there.
[00:05:03]  Yeah, there are a bunch of really angry apparatchiks outside who were too cowardly to come ask me questions.
[00:05:09]  And by the way, any campus stop that we do, if you disagree, you're allowed the microphone uninterrupted.
[00:05:16]  And some kids decided to try to troll me.
[00:05:18]  Didn't go too well.
[00:05:19]  Some kids try to just say outlandish and crazy things.
[00:05:23]  And some of them just want to ask serious questions.
[00:05:25]  You're allowed the mic.
[00:05:26]  Give me your best case.
[00:05:28]  And by the way, it's one after the other, after the other.
[00:05:30]  So they get to prepare their question.
[00:05:32]  I have no idea, you know, what they're going to ask.
[00:05:34]  And they have, sometimes they look at their notes perfectly fine.
[00:05:37]  And you guys have seen those videos and you got to be on top of it.
[00:05:39]  And then boom, boom, boom.
[00:05:40]  And it's every topic imaginable.
[00:05:42]  Trans issues, race issues, systemic racism, history, environmentalism, climate change, border, pharmaceutical, industrial complex, Marxism, economics.
[00:05:52]  You got to be on top of your game.
[00:05:54]  And the clips of the interactions, you know, we're going to publicize.
[00:05:57]  But I want to read some of this because this shows you exactly what we're dealing with in our country.
[00:06:02]  Because it only reaffirms the premise that I've been making for quite some time, which is what happens on college campuses does not stay on college campuses.
[00:06:10]  It infects the halls of Congress, corporations, and the rest of society.
[00:06:13]  It doesn't just stay there.
[00:06:14]  So what I saw at University of California, Santa Barbara is going to have a downstream effect to the rest of our culture.
[00:06:21]  It doesn't just stay there.
[00:06:23]  It doesn't like, oh, yeah, they're going to get older and they're going to shed their liberalism.
[00:06:27]  In some ways, that's sort of true, but they're going to stay as almost nearly as radical as they are now.
[00:06:33]  So this is one of the quotes in the newspaper article covering my visit yesterday at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
[00:06:40]  This is here.
[00:06:42]  This person is just referred to as he.
[00:06:45]  I don't even know who the name is.
[00:06:46]  I'll find the name in a second.
[00:06:47]  Anyway, I think that people here, I think people probably shouldn't be welcoming of Charlie Kirk.
[00:06:52]  Whether he has a right to speak or not, that's a completely separate conversation.
[00:06:57]  But I think he should not be welcome here.
[00:06:58]  And I think this is an appropriate level response.
[00:07:02]  The protesters started to chant, abort Charlie Kirk.
[00:07:06]  Transphobia has no place here.
[00:07:08]  Yeah, really, really deep and really complex.
[00:07:11]  This is the type of garbage that your taxpayer-funded universities produce.
[00:07:14]  It doesn't bother me.
[00:07:15]  Should bother you as the parents that are funding this stuff.
[00:07:20]  Kirk then launched into the crux of his speech a tirade against the existence of transgender people that drew the applause of hundreds inside the lecture hall.
[00:07:31]  I did no such thing.
[00:07:33]  I didn't even get close to saying it.
[00:07:35]  I said that transgenderism is a delusion, which is technically true, by the way.
[00:07:41]  And that wasn't the crux of my speech.
[00:07:43]  I mean, again, this is a student newspaper, so you wouldn't expect accuracy in reporting.
[00:07:48]  It's activism.
[00:07:50]  Continues, this is one of my favorite quotes where they got this activist here.
[00:07:56]  They say, Charlie Kirk is a white supremacist.
[00:07:59]  Where do you think they get this from?
[00:08:01]  College activists?
[00:08:02]  They never grow up.
[00:08:03]  The creator of Turning Point USA is a well-known pro-fascist organization that spews anti-blackness, anti-immigrant hate, misogyny, and racism.
[00:08:15]  Let USB, U.S. UCSB admin know that hate has no place on our campus.
[00:08:24]  And then continued by another quote here, which is just so.
[00:08:29]  Charlie Kirk is a white supremacist, campus Democrats.
[00:08:32]  This is the campus Democrats, not the young socialists, that feeds hate speech and misinformation.
[00:08:39]  Now, mind you, this person was too cowardly to come say that to my face because this person, he or she or they or them, knows that I would have intellectually pummeled them because it's a lie.
[00:08:50]  It's a falsehood.
[00:08:51]  But that's all the left has is lies.
[00:08:53]  There's an open mic.
[00:08:54]  For literally 50 minutes, any one of them could have come up and told me this to my face.
[00:08:59]  But they're cowards.
[00:09:01]  So instead, they go to the student newspaper or they go outside with their signs and say Charlie Kirk's a white supremacist.
[00:09:07]  They know it's not true.
[00:09:08]  It's all they have is name-calling.
[00:09:10]  And that's the broader message: is that what I experience on college campuses, again, I'm not saying fiels argument.
[00:09:15]  It's fine.
[00:09:15]  It's fun, actually.
[00:09:18]  The weaponization of name-calling has been nationalized as the primary weapon of how the Marxists control our country, as exhibited here.
[00:09:32]  I think it's totally important for campuses, this is so hilarious, campuses and any environment to have multiple points of free speech and different perspectives.
[00:09:41]  But I think that when speech is derogatory, hateful, or misinformed, like Charlie Kirk's, it just crosses a line.
[00:09:51]  We at the UCSB vehemently oppose the platforming of alt-right, racist, transphobic groups such as TPUSA on this campus.
[00:10:00]  The direct threat that this poses to marginalized people's safety is unacceptable.
[00:10:08]  We only beat these people when you go into their places of comfort, you challenge their lies, you challenge the deceit, you challenge the delusion, and you inspire other people that are filled with common sense to fight back against this garbage.
[00:10:22]  Because I can say confidently, there were people that, I can't say confidently, minds were totally changed, but people definitely had to think differently about it.
[00:10:31]  In fact, we have a clip of one kid that said, I'm not going to say you dumbfounded me, but I got no good response to that.
[00:10:36]  And I appreciate his honesty.
[00:10:40]  I want to talk about relieffactor.com.
[00:10:42]  I want you guys to check out relieffactor.com, 100% drug-free, knee pain, back pain, joint pain, elbow pain.
[00:10:47]  Check out Relief Factor Energy.
[00:10:49]  Help makes your body make nutrients readily available.
[00:10:52]  Relief Factor Sleep.
[00:10:53]  I know a lot of you are probably having trouble sleeping.
[00:10:55]  Relief Factor Sleep could be the best solution for you.
[00:10:58]  Everybody goes to bed.
[00:10:59]  Not everybody sleeps.
[00:11:01]  We're all about helping people live lives that are filled with connection, exploration, passion, and emotion.
[00:11:06]  That is what his life is all about.
[00:11:08]  Make sure you guys are sleeping well.
[00:11:09]  It's a major part of life.
[00:11:11]  Check it out right now.
[00:11:12]  ReliefFactor.com, relief factor.com.
[00:11:17]  Ideas that cease to be spoken will eventually cease to be thought of.
[00:11:23]  We need to give people the courage and the confidence to be able to speak out of what they know is true.
[00:11:29]  And unfortunately, campuses have become islands of totalitarianism.
[00:11:32]  So when you visit, they mobilize the shock troops and they mobilize the activists.
[00:11:37]  And by the way, yes, there were students that were opposing me, but the actual Antifa that was there, they're mostly adults from the local community.
[00:11:46]  They're not actual students.
[00:11:48]  Some are, but most of them are not.
[00:11:50]  And that could change depending on what city and locality we go to.
[00:11:54]  But isn't it fascinating?
[00:11:56]  And this is just, you know, we should press pause on this because I recently had a conversation with somebody where they said, Charlie, I think what you are doing is dividing America.
[00:12:05]  That was the criticism that somebody said privately to me.
[00:12:08]  I said, how?
[00:12:09]  They said, you're dividing America by going into liberal environments and making people angry.
[00:12:17]  And I said, with all fairness, I think that's incredibly flawed and a silly argument that I'm the problem because I want to show up on American college campus and talk about biological reality, the Constitution, free markets, and America.
[00:12:32]  I'm the problem.
[00:12:35]  And it's interesting because I've actually, this is a narrative that is becoming more and more popular, which is, hey, conservatives, why don't you just leave the liberals alone?
[00:12:48]  You're the ones that are provoking them by going into the really left-wing environments.
[00:12:55]  And this is so insane that somehow we should be to blame for calmly and rationally and respectfully going to places that we are in the ideological and intellectual and philosophical minority that we are the problem.
[00:13:14]  You know how you heal a divide?
[00:13:16]  You talk to the people that you disagree with.
[00:13:19]  You don't just partition yourself off.
[00:13:22]  Like, oh, well, you know, these people are past the point of return.
[00:13:26]  And by the way, if any major liberal who knows their stuff, any one of the professors, any one of those professors at UCSB could have come up to the microphone and try to quote unquote, make a fool out of Charlie Kirk yesterday.
[00:13:41]  You had an open mic.
[00:13:42]  Why didn't you do that?
[00:13:45]  No, instead, they do these press releases, hater, transphobic, all this, because I think they're afraid.
[00:13:52]  And also they know they don't need to do that because a 90-minute speech by Charlie Kirk is a huge threat to them, though.
[00:14:00]  And isn't that interesting?
[00:14:01]  Doesn't that show the power of the truth?
[00:14:06]  Here's the deal that I say to most kids on campus.
[00:14:10]  Your professors get you for four years.
[00:14:12]  Give me 90 minutes.
[00:14:16]  Give me 90 minutes and I might be able to get you to think differently.
[00:14:19]  I'm not saying I'll be able to completely change your mind, but I will be able to make you think differently.
[00:14:25]  Not guarantee, but if those 90 minutes were so ineffective, then they wouldn't have to do what they're doing.
[00:14:35]  Now we're getting a lot of emails.
[00:14:36]  Charlie, why are you not at CPAC?
[00:14:38]  I love CPAC and I wish I could be there.
[00:14:41]  I'm not on CPAC because we're on tour.
[00:14:43]  And I think all of you guys can appreciate, and you want me actually on the front lines doing what we are doing, which is to go to places that are not always welcoming to the conservative, pro-American, pro-liberty viewpoint.
[00:14:59]  So how do we go about fixing this?
[00:15:01]  We need more of what happened yesterday.

=== Why I Skip CPAC (03:59) ===

[00:15:03]  And the Turning Point USA team did an unbelievable job.
[00:15:07]  The field program, the chapter leaders, the staff, they did so unbelievable.
[00:15:11]  It's like, I was marveling at the machine, literally.
[00:15:15]  I mean, from the amazing video team, they did unbelievable.
[00:15:19]  From the security to getting the students lined up.
[00:15:23]  I mean, it's like, wow, after a decade, this is a well-oiled machine to get the students ready to go, to get the ticketing.
[00:15:29]  These are not small logistical things.
[00:15:31]  I know some of you at home might say, oh, come on, Charlie, what's the big deal?
[00:15:33]  You just open it up.
[00:15:34]  No, no, no, no.
[00:15:35]  There are thousands of intricate moving parts that need to be simultaneously kind of put in place.
[00:15:46]  And it's easy to kind of take it for granted.
[00:15:48]  Like, oh, yeah, this just happens to the microphone on campus.
[00:15:51]  Like, no, no, no.
[00:15:52]  You have to deal with the bureaucracy.
[00:15:53]  You got to deal with the security threats, got to deal with the death threats.
[00:15:55]  You got to sweep for bombs.
[00:15:56]  You got to make sure the ticking are there.
[00:15:58]  They try to do false ticketing.
[00:15:59]  The protesters, the people outside, make sure it's filmed.
[00:16:01]  Make sure it's live streamed.
[00:16:02]  Make sure all the university demands are satisfied.
[00:16:06]  You push back against the ones that are unreasonable.
[00:16:07]  It's a full-time job.
[00:16:08]  They make it that way, so it's hard.
[00:16:10]  But thankfully, we've created this machine at Turning Point USA that can navigate that leviathan to be able to effectively still host these events that make a sizable difference, not just for the students that attend them in person, but the millions of other people that watch them online.
[00:16:27]  And that's a big deal.
[00:16:31]  So how do we win?
[00:16:32]  We do more of what happened yesterday.
[00:16:33]  We speak the truth with courage and boldness.
[00:16:37]  We challenge lies wherever they find themselves infested in our country.
[00:16:45]  Okay, Kirk fans, I need you to stop and pay attention to this.
[00:16:49]  I have never experienced anything quite like the new Strong Cell product.
[00:16:53]  I take it right before every single show.
[00:16:54]  It's so easy.
[00:16:55]  And you've got to read up on everything that has been packed into these tiny bottles.
[00:16:59]  You see, Strong Cell is a new scientific cocktail of cellular level replenishment.
[00:17:04]  It's so simple.
[00:17:05]  Just drink one small bottle of strong cell liquid per day, and boom, you guys get NADH.
[00:17:11]  I've kind of become a student of NAD.
[00:17:13]  I'm going to tell you more about that in a second.
[00:17:15]  Look, Strong Cell is a formula that helps boost your body's natural energy and restoration at the cellular level.
[00:17:22]  NAD is a crucial coenzyme that is critical for creating energy in your cells.
[00:17:29]  Now, you might say, Charlie, this sounds too good to be true.
[00:17:31]  NAD, go look it up online.
[00:17:32]  Go do five minutes of research on NAD.
[00:17:35]  It is a miracle coenzyme.
[00:17:37]  Some people call it the anti-aging enzyme.
[00:17:40]  It can help with depression.
[00:17:41]  It can help with anxiety.
[00:17:42]  It can help with mental acuity, with memory.
[00:17:45]  And Strong Cell also puts CoQ10 and wild-caught marine collagen.
[00:17:50]  Again, I take it every day, and the difference I feel is undeniable.
[00:17:54]  By taking just one small bottle of Strong Cell liquid every day, you can experience an energy boost within the first week and even more benefits within the first 15 days.
[00:18:03]  After 30 days, you'll feel like a new person.
[00:18:06]  But just don't take my word for it.
[00:18:07]  Try Strong Cell for yourself and see the difference it can make.
[00:18:11]  To make it even easier, use promo code Charlie at strongcell.com/slash Charlie for a 20% discount.
[00:18:18]  Remember, this is not an energy drink.
[00:18:20]  There are no stimulants or caffeine in Strong Cell.
[00:18:22]  The formula is designed to generate long-term positive change.
[00:18:26]  So give Strong Cell the full four weeks to work, and I promise you will not regret it.
[00:18:30]  Learn more right now at their website.
[00:18:32]  Visit strongcell.com forward slash Charlie and enter promo code Charlie for a 20% discount.
[00:18:38]  They have made me a believer.
[00:18:40]  I could tell you, a special 20% discount for Kirk Show fans will apply whether you want to test it out for one week or four weeks.
[00:18:47]  But I highly encourage you to try it for all four.
[00:18:50]  So go now and visit strongcell.com forward slash Charlie and enter promo code Charlie for 20% discount.
[00:18:56]  We get so many people that want to partner with us and have their product advertised on our show.

=== The 2020 Election Debate (12:11) ===

[00:19:03]  I say no to most of them.
[00:19:05]  When I found out there was someone that was doing liquid NAD, I said, I want to learn about it.
[00:19:08]  I took it for a month and it's made a big difference.
[00:19:11]  You've got to check it out.
[00:19:13]  Strongcell.com forward slash Charlie.
[00:19:16]  Enter promo code Charlie for that 20% discount.
[00:19:22]  There's a fabulous piece on real clear education by Benjamin Weingarten.
[00:19:27]  We've had him on the program before.
[00:19:28]  I'd love to have him back on about this piece.
[00:19:31]  But it asks the question: can the right make a long counter march through the institutions?
[00:19:39]  So there was a left-wing activist by the name of Rudy Dutchke.
[00:19:43]  I'm going to butcher the pronunciation.
[00:19:45]  Blake can fix, I think that was his name, Rudy Dutchke, Dutchke, whatever his name.
[00:19:51]  And he was a left-wing activist who made the argument that Marxists need to embrace patience to be able to march through the major institutions in America.
[00:20:06]  That it's going to take multiple generations, that we're not going to take it over immediately.
[00:20:12]  What he basically argued for was that we don't control the major spheres of cultural shaping.
[00:20:21]  It's Dutch key.
[00:20:22]  Hey, I wasn't that far off.
[00:20:24]  I am, by the way, I am at this point well known for butchering pronunciations.
[00:20:30]  The Charlie Kirk show where you get truth, boldness, clarity, and last names pronounced incorrectly.
[00:20:37]  I'm just being honest.
[00:20:38]  We're getting better, okay?
[00:20:40]  Dutchkey, thank you.
[00:20:41]  Rudy Dutchke, thank you, Blake.
[00:20:43]  And he basically made the argument to his fellow comrades, literally, we got to infiltrate.
[00:20:51]  Now, if you read Saul Alinsky carefully, who of course Saul Linsky wrote Rules for Radicals, dedicated the book to Lucifer, to Satan, saying he was the first rebel.
[00:21:03]  If you read other writings of Saul Linsky, because it's not as pronounced in Rules for Radicals, but in some of his own private journals and musings and diaries and his speeches, Alinsky argued that a true radical does not go in the streets like those weird apparatchiks yesterday at the University of California, Santa Barbara, chanting, what is this, abort Charlie Kirk.
[00:21:31]  In fact, Saul Alinsky would go up to those radicals yesterday and say, you guys are morons.
[00:21:41]  Saul Linsky would go up to the people that throw bricks and threaten violence and he would say, you are helping no one.
[00:21:51]  He would go up to Antifa, he'd go up to BLM and say, knock it off.
[00:21:55]  In fact, the quote is so powerful.
[00:21:58]  And I'm going to paraphrase it off of memory, but we can get it here in the chat.
[00:22:01]  Alinsky said, a true radical does not go in the streets committing arson, violence, or intimidation.
[00:22:09]  He said, no, no, no, a true radical wakes up early every day, shaves himself clean, slicks back his hair, puts on a three-piece suit, and infiltrates the institution with his radical ideas.
[00:22:23]  Just like Obama, just like so many of these people, he argued that the undisciplined radical does what we saw at UCSB.
[00:22:33]  They act like infants and like child.
[00:22:35]  In fact, Alinsky says you're only helping the conservatives by doing what you were doing yesterday.
[00:22:41]  That you make it seem as if our ideas are unpopular and unreasonable.
[00:22:48]  Hey, I actually did pretty well.
[00:22:50]  I was off of memory.
[00:22:51]  This is the real quote.
[00:22:52]  True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism.
[00:22:55]  They cut their hair, put on suits, and infiltrate the system from within.
[00:22:58]  I mean, that's not, I wasn't that far off.
[00:23:00]  I was in the general zip code there.
[00:23:02]  Okay, true revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism.
[00:23:05]  They cut their hair, put on suits, and infiltrate the system from within.
[00:23:09]  And we are living in a country that has now been taken over by the Alinsky patient discipline.
[00:23:19]  I get asked all the time, Charlie, how do they control the CDC, the FDA, the FDA, the FBI, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca?
[00:23:27]  And how do they do all this?
[00:23:29]  Because they made a commitment.
[00:23:31]  And this is what's so creepy about it.
[00:23:33]  These are secular, non-religious people that are saying that we are actually going to do something that we might not actually see the end fruit.
[00:23:42]  They were more patient in some ways than the Christians and the religious and the conservatives who want immediate gratification when it comes to politics.
[00:23:51]  Where Rudy Dutchke and Alinsky said, we're not actually going to see, quote unquote, the deliverance of our people to Egypt.
[00:23:58]  They didn't use that term, but that's a proper metaphor.
[00:24:01]  We're not going to see the people eventually come into the promised land from Egypt to Israel, I should say, deliverance from Egypt to Israel.
[00:24:08]  We're not going to see it.
[00:24:11]  So this piece by Benjamin Whitegarten, Can the Right Make a Long Countermarch of the Institutions, is a direct challenge to Rudy Dutschke.
[00:24:22]  And he writes here, it's very interesting.
[00:24:24]  He said, there's a newfound willingness among state officials and their appointees to intervene on behalf of their constituents to shape schools, state schools, in ways that challenge the woke progressive ideological monoculture, that's a great word, I'm going to use that, that prevails within them and broadly over the academy, which subsequently could pervade American life.
[00:24:51]  For example, he gives some examples of how to reform.
[00:24:53]  Can we take back these institutions?
[00:24:56]  Can we win them over?
[00:25:00]  Or is it better just to start institutions anew?
[00:25:04]  Is it better to start new institutions and new places of learning?
[00:25:11]  This is the question in front of us.
[00:25:12]  So let's just get a little bit more taste of kind of what we saw yesterday.
[00:25:18]  It was, I mean, every possible topic you could imagine.
[00:25:23]  What's a good one here that might actually illuminate this?
[00:25:29]  The cut sheet hasn't totally been filled out yet.
[00:25:31]  But so we'll get to some of them.
[00:25:36]  Instead, there's a debate on the right, which is do we abandon these institutions altogether?
[00:25:47]  Do we retreat from them and surrender?
[00:25:49]  Or do we try to start new institutions?
[00:25:53]  And I think Ron DeSantis is currently answering the question, it's an above-all approach.
[00:25:57]  We take back the ones we can that we have political power.
[00:26:03]  We start new ones.
[00:26:05]  You see, the new college of Florida, which Ron DeSantis has said is going to be the anti-woke college, University of Florida, is only because he has political power.
[00:26:18]  But I think we also must be honest that winning back institutions is not going to be easy.
[00:26:23]  Is it time?
[00:26:25]  Now, here's a provocative question for you.
[00:26:29]  Is it time for conservatives to take the quote from Alinsky and maybe change some words?
[00:26:38]  Here we go.
[00:26:39]  This is an interesting question.
[00:26:41]  What if I told our turning point students this?
[00:26:45]  True patriots do not flaunt their conservatism.
[00:26:49]  They cut their hair, put on suits, and infiltrate the system from within.
[00:26:55]  Should we do that?
[00:26:57]  That's an honest question.
[00:26:59]  Is it time for our young conservatives to be sleeper cells for freedom and liberty and re-infiltrate the body politic and the institutions?
[00:27:08]  I don't have a good answer to that because I believe it's a moral good to speak your mind.
[00:27:14]  I think you should be who you are.
[00:27:16]  At the same time, is that prudent?
[00:27:19]  Is it effective?
[00:27:24]  Because one part of being an outspoken conservative is being outspoken.
[00:27:29]  But I am touched by so many emails I get from you, which is that this is really not a hypothetical.
[00:27:36]  I think the left would be terrified to know how many conservatives are actually in the institutions they think they control.
[00:27:44]  I get the emails from you.
[00:27:46]  I get the emails from you that work for the FBI, the Department of Justice.
[00:27:49]  I get the emails from you that work for college campuses, that work for major institutions, and they always start null-capped.
[00:27:55]  Please don't tell anyone I'm emailing you this.
[00:27:58]  Please don't read this on air.
[00:27:59]  And I honor that, obviously.
[00:28:02]  Does the left actually control these institutions as much as they think they do?
[00:28:06]  Maybe yes, but there actually might be more fighters and patriots within these massive organizations than we ever might realize.
[00:28:16]  So the question is, can we do our own counter march to the institutions?
[00:28:22]  And if I were to present a provocative but true critique of the conservative movement of something that audiences do not like, but it is true and I communicate it.
[00:28:34]  When I am speaking to a largely older audience and I tell them, you're probably going to be dead when the country gets back to a free society.
[00:28:42]  They do not like hearing that, but it's true.
[00:28:45]  This is not going to happen in the next five or 10 years.
[00:28:47]  We can make progress.
[00:28:48]  We can have victories.
[00:28:49]  We can get well on our way.
[00:28:51]  But the reclamation of this republic is not going to happen overnight.
[00:28:56]  It's not going to be on Air Force One just swooping down.
[00:28:58]  It's going to be long, drawn-out, arduous work.
[00:29:01]  I might not even fully see the country reclaim the liberty or self-government.
[00:29:05]  That's an unpopular thing for people to hear.
[00:29:07]  They don't want to hear it.
[00:29:08]  They say, Charlie, I want to see it.
[00:29:11]  I do too.
[00:29:12]  But if we are realistic about it, we have been taken over by people that said, I'm probably not going to see my left-wing Marxist ideas fully come to fruition.
[00:29:21]  And they don't even think they're far enough.
[00:29:26]  It's not going to happen immediately.
[00:29:28]  Instead, it has to be a commitment for a long-term generational, multi-generational project.
[00:29:35]  And only then can a true reclamation of our infested institutions begin.
[00:29:44]  Look, are you concerned about the American K-12 education system?
[00:29:47]  Are you worried about what your children and your grandchildren are learning or honestly not learning in school?
[00:29:52]  If you answer yes, my friends at Hillsdale College have a free resource for you.
[00:29:56]  Hillsdale College understands the importance of education to the future of our country.
[00:30:00]  They're now offering 10 free print copies of their recent issue of In Primus.
[00:30:06]  It's titled Education as a Battleground, written by Hillsdale College President Larry P. Arne.
[00:30:12]  The special issue provides a factual account of the issues in the ongoing battle over education, explaining why parents and teachers, not unelected bureaucrats or activists, should guide what our children are learning.
[00:30:25]  With Hillsdale College, you can make a difference in your community by distributing these copies of In Primus at your church, local business, or even in your doctor's office.
[00:30:34]  Do not miss this opportunity to arm yourself with the facts.
[00:30:38]  Claim your 10 free copies of Education as a Battleground by visiting charlie4hillsdale.com.
[00:30:44]  That's charlieforhillsdale.com.
[00:30:46]  I love Hillsdale College.
[00:30:47]  I'm an enthusiastic promoter of them.
[00:30:49]  So check it out right now at charlie4hillsdale.com.
[00:30:56]  Okay, this was one of the questions that a student got fired up about asking, Charlie, do you still think there was something unjust, to use the word stolen, about the 2020 election, PlayCut 84?
[00:31:06]  Just a little bit of the spice of last evening, PlayCut 84.
[00:31:10]  The media not covering stories you do not like is not voter fraud.
[00:31:14]  You made specific claims.

=== Understanding the Left (06:17) ===

[00:31:15]  No, hold on.
[00:31:16]  That's not the media not covering it.
[00:31:18]  That's Twitter not allowing you to say it.
[00:31:20]  That's a completely different thing.
[00:31:22]  Just to be clear, you agree that all of the Republican senators who voted to certify the election are all in on the conspiracy?
[00:31:31]  Not in a conspiracy.
[00:31:32]  I think some of them are gutless wonders.
[00:31:34]  I think some of them are cowards.
[00:31:35]  Some of them don't even know what they're voting for.
[00:31:37]  Look what they're doing half the time in Congress.
[00:31:39]  Well over 20% of Joe Biden's swing voters said they would have changed their vote if they would have known about the Hunter Biden laptop.
[00:31:46]  You can thank Yo Roth and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the fact that that never happened.
[00:31:52]  Thank you for being here tonight.
[00:31:54]  And the full exchange actually, I think, is even more illuminating.
[00:31:57]  There was a powerful part of it.
[00:31:58]  I'll talk about that in a second.
[00:32:01]  We need to have a long march for the institutions.
[00:32:04]  And it needs to be a multi-generational goal that our kids and our grandkids, a project, if you will.
[00:32:14]  The left have, they've been so effective, the Marxists, in having the patience and the deliberative steps to infiltrate.
[00:32:22]  And it is a multi-front war.
[00:32:24]  And everybody is called in a different part of this war.
[00:32:27]  Everybody.
[00:32:27]  James O'Keefe, got to make sure he's back and empowered.
[00:32:30]  And I'm talking to him and trying to do everything I can to help him.
[00:32:33]  It's ridiculous what's happening with Project Veritas.
[00:32:35]  Inexcusable that he has to be so distracted and that all that work has to be derailed.
[00:32:40]  Place for James O'Keefe, place for what we're doing on campuses and what we're doing with churches and doing with education.
[00:32:44]  Place what Steve Bannon is doing to educate millions of people on War Room every day.
[00:32:48]  Place of what Tucker Carlson is doing to have the zeitgeist focused on the issues that matter and expose these evil deeds and corruption.
[00:32:55]  There's a place what the House Freedom Caucus is doing.
[00:32:57]  So it's a multi-front war.
[00:32:59]  But one of the things that we have to commit to doing better is understanding the left has won more.
[00:33:05]  And this is not what you want to hear, but you need to hear it.
[00:33:09]  The left has won more because largely they have cared more.
[00:33:13]  Politics is about numbers, but also about intensity.
[00:33:16]  It's a physics equation.
[00:33:18]  Numbers times intensity.
[00:33:20]  Force equals mass times acceleration.
[00:33:22]  That's why the pro-life movement does so well.
[00:33:25]  The pro-life movement is one of the great examples, and the pro-gun movement, the Second Amendment movement, to their great credit.
[00:33:33]  Those two issues have so much intensity and so much focus.
[00:33:36]  The conservatives have actually made America more in the image of their desire, and my desire, of those two issues over the last 20 or 30 years.
[00:33:44]  That's a good thing.
[00:33:47]  And it's because conservatives are so intensely committed to it, constantly organizing.
[00:33:52]  There are thousands of people whose entire life is committed to pro-life causes.
[00:33:56]  And praise God for that.
[00:33:57]  And they're good at it.
[00:33:58]  Yesterday, a group of moms came up to me and they said, we're part of this group, love life every day.
[00:34:03]  This is our passion.
[00:34:04]  This is our focus.
[00:34:05]  I was like, wow, it's amazing.
[00:34:08]  And the left, what the left is able to do on the issues of race, environmentalism, and this trans thing, which is just so ridiculous, they're able to capture the energy of idle youth that think there's all these mass injustices in the world on those particular topics and mobilize them because they think they're being good people while doing it.
[00:34:26]  They think they're virtuous.
[00:34:27]  What's so interesting is that if you privately interviewed every one of the Apparatchs that were trying to shut me down yesterday at University of California Santa Barbara, they would think they are fighting evil.
[00:34:36]  They think they are doing well.
[00:34:38]  They think that they are like standing in the breach.
[00:34:42]  They think it's like their D-Day.
[00:34:43]  That's an exaggeration.
[00:34:44]  But there's a little bit of a moral symmetry there where they think they are fighting actual Nazis, which is, of course, where I always kind of push back on intentions don't mean anything.
[00:34:55]  They mean something in life, but they don't mean very much when it comes to activism.
[00:35:00]  They mean so well, but they're burning down the Wendy's.
[00:35:03]  They mean so well, but they're trying to shut down Charlie Kirk.
[00:35:06]  Yeah, they're still doing something that's wrong and evil and incorrect.
[00:35:10]  Some people are, you're emailing us freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:35:13]  Charlie, I do not have the patience to wait for us to take back these institutions.
[00:35:19]  You need to tell us how we could do it now.
[00:35:21]  With all due respect, I think that's the wrong attitude.
[00:35:24]  I think patience in life is one of the great virtues.
[00:35:27]  It's also a fruit of the Holy Spirit.
[00:35:29]  Now, there can be immediate wins.
[00:35:31]  Yes, of course, there can be immediate liberations.
[00:35:35]  Obviously, one of the most famous quotes ever is: a journey of a thousand miles starts at a single step.
[00:35:39]  Confucius said that in the Analects.
[00:35:42]  And we should remember that.
[00:35:45]  But the left, being more patient than we have been over the last couple decades, should be motivating to us.
[00:35:54]  And some of it needs to be public, and some of it needs to be confrontational, and some of it needs to be calling out this nonsense.
[00:36:00]  And then there's a third rail as well, which is not just reclamation of the institutions, but entrepreneurs, start new stuff, new businesses, new institutions, new nonprofits, new colleges, new hospitals.
[00:36:15]  If you're an entrepreneur and you love liberty and you love America, go do something about it.
[00:36:20]  Take a risk.
[00:36:23]  I know so many of my friends that are now succeeding.
[00:36:24]  Look at Rumble.
[00:36:26]  They decided to create something new, multi-billion dollar company.
[00:36:29]  News came out, public square, they're going public, $200 million company.
[00:36:33]  Patriot Mobile, doing unbelievable.
[00:36:35]  Hillsdale College, booming like crazy.
[00:36:38]  Let's start new stuff.
[00:36:39]  So it can be taking back institutions.
[00:36:44]  It could be liberating ones that have been momentarily controlled by the Marxists, but also starting new ones.
[00:36:52]  And that's my big advice to the younger listeners out there.
[00:36:54]  If you have the energy, the passion, and the zeal, and the gusto to save America, and you have a good idea, go act on it.
[00:37:02]  Start something new.
[00:37:03]  You might just succeed.
[00:37:05]  Look what Turning Point USA has been able to do over the last decade.
[00:37:09]  From nothing to the largest conservative organization fighting for liberty in America.
[00:37:15]  We're really proud of that and thankful.
[00:37:17]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:37:18]  Email me your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:37:22]  Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
[00:37:28]  For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.