The Charlie Kirk Show - Disney's Disenchanted Kingdom with Bill Donohue and Chris Ruddy
Aired: 2023-02-08
Duration: 35:05


=== Disney Cancellation and Disinformation (10:48) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, Bill Donahue from the Catholic League joins us to talk about Walt Disney.
[00:00:05]  And then Chris Ruddy from Newsmax talks about how Newsmax is being canceled by ATT.
[00:00:11]  Very important story.
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[00:01:19]  The amount of power that corporations have to be able to choose what you hear is disturbing, and it's somewhat of a new phenomenon.
[00:01:28]  AT ⁇ T, aka DirecTV has been for years going more and more in the wokey direction.
[00:01:43]  And I love watching Newsmax.
[00:01:45]  I know so many of you agree.
[00:01:46]  They do such a great job.
[00:01:48]  And actually, I watch them when I work out.
[00:01:51]  And I watch them on ATT.
[00:01:53]  My condo association provides direct TV for all of us.
[00:01:57]  Now, because of their decision, that's going to be put in jeopardy and not be able to happen.
[00:02:02]  So joining us now is the CEO of Newsmax, does a fabulous job, Chris Ruddy, to talk about this very urgent issue with a specific action item for our audience.
[00:02:11]  Chris, welcome to the program.
[00:02:13]  Well, Charlie, thank you for having me on.
[00:02:15]  I think you do a fabulous job when you're doing really incredible work on the media with young people and spreading the message.
[00:02:22]  Well, thank you.
[00:02:23]  So Chris, the floor is yours.
[00:02:26]  Tell our audience what's going on.
[00:02:28]  Well, a lot's going on.
[00:02:30]  I think a lot of people know that Newsmax was censored by AT ⁇ T Direct TV.
[00:02:35]  AT ⁇ T owns Direct TV.
[00:02:37]  They own 70% of it.
[00:02:39]  And we were removed from all their signals on January 24th.
[00:02:43]  13 million homes couldn't, can't get Newsmax anymore, at least for the moment.
[00:02:48]  Charlie, you know, this really starts in 21.
[00:02:50]  Nancy Pelosi gets control of the House.
[00:02:53]  Her Democratic minions send a letter to AT ⁇ T and other cable operators and say, take One America Channel, OAN, Newsmax, and Fox News off.
[00:03:03]  They're spreading disinformation.
[00:03:06]  They send this two-page letter.
[00:03:07]  They hold hearings.
[00:03:09]  AT ⁇ T complies.
[00:03:10]  We know they removed the One America channel last year.
[00:03:13]  It was a popular channel and they removed it.
[00:03:16]  They said it was cost-cutting.
[00:03:18]  This time they said with Newsmax, we're now the fourth highest-rated cable news channel in the United States.
[00:03:23]  25 million people watch us regularly.
[00:03:25]  That's Nielsen numbers in mind.
[00:03:28]  Nielsen.
[00:03:29]  And they said they were cost-cutting measures.
[00:03:33]  Meanwhile, they're keeping 22 liberal channels.
[00:03:36]  Most of the channels nobody even, barely anyone watches.
[00:03:39]  Every one of the channel gets a big license fee.
[00:03:42]  They're keeping them all, but they're removing Newsmax.
[00:03:45]  We say it's discrimination, it's targeting.
[00:03:48]  And people like Kevin McCarthy have spoken out.
[00:03:51]  Ron DeSantis said, you know, DirecTV makes excuses every time they get rid of a conservative channel.
[00:03:57]  So two channels in a row have been removed.
[00:04:00]  We're the second victim.
[00:04:02]  And if you look through the list that DirecTV has for channels, they have what would barely pass as 1995 public access television of Vermont communist liberals ranting to themselves.
[00:04:18]  I mean, I know this because when AT ⁇ T DirecTV made this announcement, I was really, really angry about it.
[00:04:25]  So I started flipping through the channels, wondering, okay, I mean, are they getting rid of all these obscure vegan hippies that talk about, you know, LSD being legalized?
[00:04:37]  And Chris, to your point, these incredibly unpopular liberal channels remain.
[00:04:43]  I'm not talking about CNN.
[00:04:45]  I'm talking about very strange programming that is incredibly radical.
[00:04:52]  Charlie, they have all of that, but think about even the entertainment channels.
[00:04:55]  They have all left-wing, Hollywood, violence, pornography.
[00:05:00]  Newsmax is a top 16 channel of all.
[00:05:04]  There's a couple of hundred cable channels they pay.
[00:05:06]  We're top 16.
[00:05:07]  We're top four news, top 16 overall.
[00:05:09]  So there's probably 100 channels lower than us in the ratings that they keep that have high fees.
[00:05:17]  Newsmax, they run around and say Newsmax wanted an excessive fee.
[00:05:20]  We wanted $1 per cable subscriber per case.
[00:05:24]  Very, very, very modest.
[00:05:25]  It's one of the cheapest that CNN gets $14 per subscriber.
[00:05:30]  For nothing.
[00:05:31]  Yeah, for nothing.
[00:05:32]  Well, for liberal propaganda.
[00:05:36]  But you have to remember AT ⁇ T's awoke company.
[00:05:39]  You know, they were the ones that weaponized CNN against Trump and the Republicans when they owned it.
[00:05:44]  The chairman of the ATT board is William Kennard.
[00:05:48]  He was Obama's chairman of the FCC.
[00:05:51]  There's a whole bunch of Obama Clinton people at the board.
[00:05:55]  So we know, you know, that this, Alan Dershowitz has just said on Newsmax on the website we have it today that, you know, this is a cover for political reasons.
[00:06:06]  They're using economic.
[00:06:08]  He said this was political bias.
[00:06:09]  This was ideology.
[00:06:11]  There's no reason Newsmax should have been deplatformed.
[00:06:14]  But other than they're cleaning up their channel guide for the 24 elections, they don't want people to have a voice that are dissenting from the liberal establishment.
[00:06:25]  There is this very strange channel that I look through and I don't watch free speech TV.
[00:06:31]  The production quality is low.
[00:06:33]  It is far left-wing Stalinistic programming.
[00:06:37]  I can't imagine they're even in the same universe, Chris, of ratings of Newsmax, and yet they remain.
[00:06:44]  Well, look at the Vice channel, which you're familiar with.
[00:06:46]  Yes.
[00:06:47]  It appeals to millennials, right?
[00:06:48]  It's filled, I'm told, with pro-Antifa, pro-Palestinian stuff.
[00:06:53]  And Vice is a liberal channel for millennials.
[00:06:56]  It has no rating.
[00:06:56]  It's 20% of Newsmax's rating.
[00:06:59]  Yet DirecTV carries it on all its systems and it pays it as much money or more money than Newsmax was seeking.
[00:07:08]  So, and we find out that one of the board members on DirecTV is a board member of Vice.
[00:07:13]  Do you start getting a picture of where this is all going?
[00:07:17]  It's extraordinary.
[00:07:18]  So what's the plan?
[00:07:20]  Well, President Trump has come out very strongly, as you probably know, and said that he's canceling DirecTV.
[00:07:25]  He's canceling ATTs, their cell phones, they're wireless.
[00:07:29]  He thinks this is disgusting.
[00:07:31]  It's the second channel.
[00:07:32]  He's urging other Americans to cancel DirecTV and ATT products.
[00:07:38]  We have set up a number for people that want to call or complain or cancel.
[00:07:42]  It's 877 Newsmax, 877 Newsmax.
[00:07:47]  It's toll-free.
[00:07:48]  We'll connect you with DirecTV immediately and let them know.
[00:07:52]  And U-verse, which also cut us off.
[00:07:55]  And you can let them know we are not in negotiations.
[00:07:59]  They'll claim that to you.
[00:08:01]  They have made no effort.
[00:08:02]  We're open to negotiations.
[00:08:03]  They've made no effort.
[00:08:04]  We're not charging excessive fees.
[00:08:07]  They'll tell you that too.
[00:08:09]  But you got to let them know and vote with your feet and your pocketbook and your phone.
[00:08:14]  If you're not a subscriber to any of those, you support Newsmax, we're calling for hearings.
[00:08:20]  Call your congressman and senator if you call the 877 Newsmax number.
[00:08:25]  We'll connect you.
[00:08:26]  There's a button there you can connect with Congress, your senators.
[00:08:30]  Let them know not only do you want hearings on the Newsmax censorship and other censorship, but that you want a hearings date.
[00:08:39]  So again, people can actually help us by making these phone calls to 877 Newsmax.
[00:08:45]  And we have already driven in literally hundreds of thousands of calls since the 24th.
[00:08:53]  That's terrific.
[00:08:54]  And so is there any legal peth here?
[00:08:57]  I know that it gets tricky because they have the right to decide what programming they have on there, but are they technically governed by telecom rules?
[00:09:07]  Well, they're a big company, and big companies usually have a public obligation to be fair and diverse.
[00:09:13]  You know, having 22 liberal channels and only Fox, only one conservative channel left now, leaning channel.
[00:09:19]  We know Fox is changing a bit.
[00:09:22]  So, you know, this is not fair.
[00:09:23]  This is liberals want diversity except when it comes to ideas, right?
[00:09:28]  They don't want to hear conservative viewpoints.
[00:09:30]  We have to demand those, or we have to go to services that do.
[00:09:33]  The DISH network carries Newsmax.
[00:09:36]  Many other, we're on every other major cable system in the U.S. Fubo carries us as well.
[00:09:43]  So feel free to change your system as well.
[00:09:46]  And I think we just got to fight back.
[00:09:48]  You know, our friend Dr. Ben Carson recently said that he felt our freedoms are at stake with this decision with ATT and that we need to fight back.
[00:10:02]  If these major companies can just come in and shut you up, it's terrible.
[00:10:05]  The website is Iwantnewsmax.com.
[00:10:08]  Direct TV customers.
[00:10:09]  Call them toll-free at 877-763-9762.
[00:10:15]  I encourage all of you to call it 877-763-9762.
[00:10:21]  So check it out.
[00:10:22]  Chris, we're behind you.
[00:10:23]  Keep fighting.
[00:10:24]  Thank you.
[00:10:25]  Charlie, thank you.
[00:10:26]  I appreciate your support.
[00:10:27]  Thank you.
[00:10:28]  You're amazing.
[00:10:28]  Thank you.
[00:10:29]  Keep up the great work.
[00:10:30]  This is not just about Newsmax.
[00:10:32]  This is bigger than that.
[00:10:32]  This is about speech and what corporations are able to do to shut us up and chill our speech.
[00:10:41]  Look, a lot of you are worried about what's happening: balloons in the sky and cyber attacks, EMPs, earthquakes.

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[00:11:48]  So tomorrow, I'm going to be speaking at an event with Dennis Prager at Arizona State University, ASU.
[00:12:00]  And it is causing a little bit of an issue, apparently.
[00:12:04]  So it is the Barrett Honors College.
[00:12:07]  We're speaking at this event.
[00:12:08]  I mean, can you think of a less controversial title of an event?
[00:12:14]  Health, Wealth, and Happiness.
[00:12:17]  That is the name of the event.
[00:12:21]  Set to take place tomorrow at ASU's Arizona State University's Gammage Auditorium.
[00:12:26]  We'll feature speakers Charlie Kirk and Dennis Prager, as well as personal financial coach Robert Kiwasaki.
[00:12:34]  Faculty at the Honors College claim to have been made aware of the event, not through the established channels of communication, but rather through social media postings.
[00:12:45]  So the professors are getting really fired up.
[00:12:51]  The professors are really upset that Dennis Prager and I are going to be on campus.
[00:12:56]  Can't happen.
[00:12:58]  Irina Levin, who's an affiliate at the Barrett Honors College, said about me speaking, my initial response was shock.
[00:13:09]  I do not think that the decision to host these speakers at Arizona State University's premier venue is in congruence with Barrett's principles as an institution.
[00:13:18]  What principles are that exactly?
[00:13:22]  Outraged that conservative people might speak at the school-sponsored event, Barrett faculty then created a petition.
[00:13:29]  This is what they're worried about, Dennis Prager and I coming on campus.
[00:13:34]  They requested the university to condemn the event.
[00:13:38]  Reports found that as of February 2nd, a majority of the faculty members from the Honors College have signed the petition, 37 out of 47, and criticized the university to even allow these speakers on campus.
[00:13:56]  This is Arizona State University.
[00:13:59]  Michael Ostling, who's a religious studies scholar.
[00:14:02]  I'd love to talk to him.
[00:14:04]  It's just so amazing.
[00:14:05]  Forget me.
[00:14:06]  I'm nobody.
[00:14:08]  You are protesting as a religious studies scholar, Dennis Prager, who I would put Dennis Prager up against anybody on comprehensive knowledge of the Torah of anybody.
[00:14:22]  He has written the premier Bible commentaries.
[00:14:24]  He is fluent in biblical Hebrew.
[00:14:27]  For 40 years, he has taught the Torah, and he knows it really well.
[00:14:33]  Maybe you could learn something from him.
[00:14:37]  Michael Ostling, who's a religious studies scholar, he says, I want to make it clear that each petition on this signature petition was for a different reason.
[00:14:47]  I believe these speakers represent ideas that go against the principles of Arizona State University Charter that stands for inclusivity and not exclusivity.
[00:15:00]  Another professor says, when your college sells its soul to the highest bidder, this is the result.
[00:15:06]  What an outrageous embarrassment.
[00:15:10]  I'm not even on the promotional graphic either.
[00:15:12]  That's what's so incredible.
[00:15:17]  They didn't put me on the graphic.
[00:15:21]  They put Prager on.
[00:15:22]  That's fine.
[00:15:23]  I'm not complaining.
[00:15:24]  I'm just, it's interesting.
[00:15:29]  So these were other people, professor after professor after professor.
[00:15:35]  So if you guys want to attend our event at the Gammage Auditorium tomorrow, again, it's about health, wealth, and happiness.
[00:15:45]  And they really hate Prager too, just so we're clear.
[00:15:49]  But I'm much easier to attack than Dennis Prager.
[00:15:52]  I fully acknowledge that, okay?
[00:15:54]  I mean, if you were to say, Charlie, you know, who's the lower-hanging fruit?
[00:15:58]  It's the guy that didn't go to college.
[00:15:59]  That's 29.
[00:16:00]  I get that.
[00:16:00]  I'll defend myself.
[00:16:02]  But really, attacking Dennis Prager, a rather learned man, fluent in seven languages, author of over a dozen books, 40 years on radio, conducts orchestras, and literally wrote a book called Happiness is a Serious Problem and has enriched the lives of no exaggeration of millions of people, maybe Arizona State University.
[00:16:32]  You could just have a little bit of humility and recognize maybe this Dennis Prager guy has something to teach me.
[00:16:39]  Especially on a topic that he happens to be an expert on, which is happiness.
[00:16:44]  You might laugh.
[00:16:44]  Oh, how can you be an expert on happiness?
[00:16:46]  He's studied it, thought about it, written about it, communicated it for 40 years.
[00:16:56]  And maybe it's not for you.
[00:16:57]  Maybe you enjoy being unhappy and you don't want other people to be happy.
[00:17:01]  But obviously, he's popular and has a track record of being like, why not just let the event happen and say, okay, it's kind of annoying, whatever.
[00:17:09]  Oh, I'm at the bottom of the flyer.
[00:17:11]  Just a little thing.
[00:17:12]  It's fine.
[00:17:14]  It doesn't bother me.
[00:17:15]  Shows you the state of modern academia, doesn't it?
[00:17:18]  Arizona State University.
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[00:18:02]  Very important topic here and an incredibly important film.
[00:18:07]  Joining us now is Bill Donahue, creator of Walt's Disenchanted Kingdom and also the president of the Catholic League.
[00:18:14]  Bill, welcome to the program.
[00:18:16]  Thank you for doing this film.
[00:18:18]  I think it's incredibly important.
[00:18:20]  Tell us about it and we'll proceed from there.
[00:18:22]  Tell us about the film.
[00:18:24]  Well, it's basically a movie to show how Disney has evolved.
[00:18:28]  It was when I was a kid, it was the most family-friendly institution in America.
[00:18:32]  I came to love Disney, as all Americans did.
[00:18:35]  There were some signs that they were changing in the 1970s.
[00:18:38]  They adopted when they bought ABC, which then took on Miramars as a distributor, putting out some anti-Catholic movies.
[00:18:46]  But they didn't go deep into this woke culture until more recent times.
[00:18:51]  And now Disney, along with a lot of the corporate 500, along with the healthcare sector and the military, very traditional institutions, have now taken on the left-wing agenda.
[00:19:01]  That's what makes this different than what it was in the 1960s.
[00:19:04]  Yeah, in the 1960s, they shouted people down like they did you at Arizona State and Dennis Prager.
[00:19:10]  I've been shouted down out in California universities a long time ago.
[00:19:14]  But it's worse today because today there's a hatred that is so deep, it's hard to imagine.
[00:19:19]  The fact that Disney is now sided, instead of being agnostic and not getting involved in politics, just stick to their agenda, which was to make kids happy.
[00:19:29]  Now they're out there sexualizing them.
[00:19:31]  So I decided that, you know, enough is enough.
[00:19:34]  If you're going to fight DeSantis on this and you're going to go after kids in kindergarten, that's five years of age, five through to eight in the third grade, then we have to really step it up and tell the truth about what's happening to Disney.
[00:19:48]  And it's not just that Disney used to produce innocent or neutral content.
[00:19:52]  They actually used to produce beautiful content.
[00:19:54]  The stories that they would publish had Christian values all over them.
[00:19:59]  Strong defending the weak, the hero's journey, the development from adolescence into maturity.
[00:20:06]  I could go through story by story, Peter Penn or Pinocchio, the need to tell the truth and to be a commitment to honesty, or the idea of no longer being your former self and going on a journey of self-improvement.
[00:20:18]  Disney was the hallmark of trying to enrich and instill adult values or proven, honestly, Christian values through these stories in cartoon form or in classical form.
[00:20:33]  And the 1990s Disney is still great today.
[00:20:36]  But so what changed then?
[00:20:38]  How did we go from the kind of the central canon of Disney, which you could say was, you know, Lion King, Snow White, Pinocchio, stories that really were embedded deeply into the consciousness of the Western tradition to now, no exaggeration, LGBTQ propaganda.
[00:20:57]  Why did that change?
[00:20:59]  You know, I'm back in the 1980s, I became one of the founding guys involved with the National Association of Scholars, and I stayed on their board of directors for 20 years running the Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh chapters.
[00:21:11]  It's about keeping the academy clean, to keep it a space where merit counts, where free ideas, where it's the pursuit of truth, not politics.
[00:21:20]  I mentioned that because the answer to your question, Charlie, is it all begins in the academy.
[00:21:25]  It always starts in higher education.
[00:21:27]  I've never met more dysfunctional people in my life than the average college professor.
[00:21:31]  And I spent many years being a professor.
[00:21:34]  And there's a lot of good people out there, don't get me wrong, but they've got become increasingly disenchanted and alienated from our society with tremendous anger and resentment.
[00:21:44]  It took a long time for it to seep into the society, almost percolating up.
[00:21:49]  It starts these crazy seminars and associations and conferences, and it's taken a while, but it's now got into the mainstream culture.
[00:21:58]  They've now been able to educate so many of our leaders in this country, beginning with the Ivy League, but not exclusively to an Ivy League schools.
[00:22:07]  I taught at a small Catholic school in Pittsburgh.
[00:22:10]  It's all over.
[00:22:11]  It's taken a while, but it's now into the culture.
[00:22:13]  It's deep.
[00:22:14]  They've even succeeded in the corporate world.
[00:22:17]  My office is looking right down at the World Trade Center, where it used to be.
[00:22:22]  I saw the World Trade Center go down that day.
[00:22:24]  Down there is Wall Street.
[00:22:26]  There was a time when Wall Street would be on our side.
[00:22:28]  They no longer are.
[00:22:30]  They fund the most radical proposals in our society.
[00:22:33]  Disney's part of that group.
[00:22:35]  I want to play Cut 52.
[00:22:36]  It's the trailer to your excellent film.
[00:22:38]  People can find it at salemnow.com.
[00:22:40]  PlayCut 52.
[00:22:42]  Once upon a time, if it was a Disney movie, you knew it was going to be safe for children.
[00:22:49]  When I was in the seventh grade, a nun asked the class who was the most admired person in the world.
[00:22:55]  I said Walt Disney.
[00:22:57]  They had such wonderful, uplifting content.
[00:23:01]  Now it's questionable.
[00:23:05]  All is not well in the self-proclaimed, happiest place on earth.
[00:23:09]  Disney CEO Bob Chapek is reversing course, now speaking out against Florida's parental rights and education legislation.
[00:23:16]  This is an atrocity against children, and Disney has allowed itself to become part of it.
[00:23:23]  That's just a small teaser there.
[00:23:26]  And so many adults are either They don't quite grasp how bad it is.
[00:23:34]  Can you just give some examples of recent productions they've done that show how radical their content really has become?
[00:23:42]  Well, when you have movies, little cartoons, when you have one boy who thinks he's maybe not a boy, uh, buying tampons with another boy in a supermarket, what exactly is the purpose of that?
[00:23:53]  Why do they have gratuitous people of the same sex kissing each other as little kids?
[00:23:59]  What message are they trying to send here?
[00:24:02]  You know, it's back in April of last year, Charlie, that I wrote a letter to Bob Chapeck, who was the CEO at the time.
[00:24:08]  Bob Iger is back in the saddle.
[00:24:11]  And I asked him, Listen, you've listened to the other side.
[00:24:14]  Cody Perkins is a noted evangelical and a friend of mine.
[00:24:16]  We'd like to come and visit you and just give you our take.
[00:24:20]  They wouldn't answer us.
[00:24:21]  Now, I thought they believed in inclusion.
[00:24:23]  That's their fifth value now, as they'd like to sell it.
[00:24:26]  But they don't believe in inclusion when it comes to Christians.
[00:24:29]  Listen, I do think I'm not a believer in an iron lore of history.
[00:24:34]  All right.
[00:24:34]  Things can change.
[00:24:35]  Disney can change.
[00:24:37]  I just saw the piece in the New York Times today.
[00:24:40]  They're getting beaten by a billion and a half dollars taking a loss with their streaming.
[00:24:44]  They lost 44% in the market value last year.
[00:24:48]  Hopefully, that's a bit of a wake-up call.
[00:24:50]  But all they need to do is go back to their moorings.
[00:24:52]  And I'm not asking them to go out there and wear the traditional moral values on their sleeve.
[00:24:57]  All I'm simply saying is be agnostic.
[00:24:59]  You should never have gotten involved trying to undermine DeSantis and undermine parental rights in the first place.
[00:25:04]  If they went back to their moorings, it'd get a lot of people off their back and they'd make more money.
[00:25:09]  So, at some point, hopefully, this movie will be a cultural marker and help be a catalyst toward that end.
[00:25:16]  I certainly hope so.
[00:25:17]  Everyone should cancel their Disney Plus subscriptions, too.
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[00:25:56]  Cut 53 Disney tampon buying clip.
[00:25:58]  I still haven't seen this clip.
[00:26:00]  It's on the I'm going to watch it for the first time with you.
[00:26:02]  Play Cut 53.
[00:26:07]  Excuse me.
[00:26:08]  Which of these products would you recommend?
[00:26:12]  Oh, um, well, these are the tampons I usually use.
[00:26:18]  Thank you.
[00:26:18]  I prefer pads.
[00:26:20]  They're more comfortable for me.
[00:26:21]  Thank you.
[00:26:21]  I always get the ones with wings.
[00:26:23]  Thank you.
[00:26:23]  Get them scented and bleach-free if you can.
[00:26:25]  Thank you.
[00:26:25]  Yo, my daughter loves these.
[00:26:27]  Thank you, might be easier if it's her first period.
[00:26:30]  These are really environmentally friendly.
[00:26:32]  So that's a male character.

=== Woke Culture vs Nature (08:30) ===

[00:26:34]  I mean, it's just hard to believe what these people are thinking other than they're trying to take advantage of children.
[00:26:42]  And well, I can let me add something to that as a sociologist.
[00:26:47]  Given a lot of studies in this, written a lot of books on the subject.
[00:26:49]  It basically comes down to this.
[00:26:52]  The woke culture is at war with nature and nature's God.
[00:26:57]  They don't believe there's such a thing as human nature.
[00:26:59]  They don't believe there's such a thing as truth.
[00:27:01]  They don't believe there's such a thing as God.
[00:27:03]  They believe that all that exists is a social construct that is simply sociologically illiterate.
[00:27:09]  And if they begin with that, if you have a war against human nature and deny its existence, then a man can become a boy, a man can become pregnant.
[00:27:18]  You know, most in the times past, they would wind up in the asylum.
[00:27:23]  Now they're working in the academy.
[00:27:25]  That's well said.
[00:27:26]  They don't acknowledge that there are the laws of nature and nature is God, as Thomas Jefferson beautifully wrote in the Declaration of Independence.
[00:27:33]  And they looked at any issue that might exist and they'll blame it on the structure of society, not that human beings themselves are flawed.
[00:27:41]  And they also believe that nature is malleable, that human beings themselves are malleable.
[00:27:46]  And so you're a religious man.
[00:27:49]  And so tell us why that is so against kind of normal Western values and Christian values.
[00:27:57]  In fact, this people of faith should be animated by this.
[00:28:00]  Well, as a Catholic, I believe in original sin, number one, that we're not perfectible.
[00:28:05]  And all the utopians of the 20th century, they all wind up killing each other by the hundreds of millions.
[00:28:12]  Hitler was a utopian, not just Stalin and Mao.
[00:28:15]  So let's get that straight.
[00:28:16]  And he was a man of the left, National Socialist.
[00:28:19]  Every totalitarian regime is one which should take a big government and made it even bigger.
[00:28:24]  So there's hardly a conservative idea.
[00:28:27]  Now, when you believe that human nature is like putty, then you can change it.
[00:28:31]  Then you can justify killing in the name of it because you know better than the people.
[00:28:36]  The intellectuals always know better than the people.
[00:28:39]  Marx knew better than the people.
[00:28:40]  They all hated their own people, didn't they?
[00:28:42]  I mean, they hated their own family.
[00:28:44]  I could go on for hours about Marx and what he did.
[00:28:47]  Look, we're being sold a bill of goods by dysfunctional people in history who reject nature and nature's God.
[00:28:55]  It always begins in higher education, and now it's into the major institutions of our society.
[00:29:00]  But the rank file is too big.
[00:29:03]  This game is not over.
[00:29:04]  The culture is up for Grahams, as far as I am concerned.
[00:29:08]  And anybody who says on our side that it can't get worse is crazy.
[00:29:11]  You have to be out there and stop being the spectator.
[00:29:14]  Start being the gladiators.
[00:29:16]  Even if they throw you out of Arizona State like you and Dennis, so what?
[00:29:20]  Let them do it.
[00:29:22]  Well, these people are so totalitarian, you know, and they say, you know, it's against the values of inclusivity, which is exactly why we're not going to include Charlie Kirk.
[00:29:32]  Really?
[00:29:32]  It's against the values of inclusivity.
[00:29:35]  It's all a camouflage for totalitarianism.
[00:29:37]  It all goes.
[00:29:38]  I hate to be overly simple, but all these roads eventually lead to a small amount of people in control of a lot of people without any sort of ability to flourish for what is good, true, and beautiful.
[00:29:49]  Bill Donahue from the Catholic League is with us.
[00:29:52]  Listen to here Disney play cut 54 of Disney.
[00:29:57]  It's an executive, isn't it?
[00:29:59]  I believe it's a Disney executive play cut 54.
[00:30:02]  The showrunners were super welcoming.
[00:30:03]  Meredith Roberts and like the our leadership over there has been so welcoming to like my like not at all secret gay agenda.
[00:30:12]  And so like I feel like all that like momentum that I felt like that sense of I don't have to be afraid to like let's have these two characters kiss.
[00:30:22]  Let's in the background this like I was just wherever I could just basically adding queerness to like the if you see anything queer but like I just was like no one would stop me and no one was trying to stop me.
[00:30:36]  My not so secret gay agenda.
[00:30:38]  Bill, what's going on here?
[00:30:40]  This country and in the West in general is obsessed with two things and the most radical manifestation of them race and sex.
[00:30:47]  Race with CRT, critical race theory, and sex with transgenderism, which, you know, it is amazing how it's gripped the West.
[00:30:56]  And, you know, I think I'm like most Americans.
[00:30:59]  I don't care what faith you are.
[00:31:01]  People need to be respected for whom they are and not be bullied.
[00:31:06]  But that also would include people who are detransitioning.
[00:31:10]  They're the most bullied people in our society today who made the mistake of trying to transition from one sex to another.
[00:31:17]  Obviously, you can't do that.
[00:31:18]  You can't change a chromosome.
[00:31:19]  So the whole thing is a fiction.
[00:31:21]  But these people who are trying to get back the way they were are now being bullied and they're being bullied by the well-educated people.
[00:31:27]  It always begins with the well-educated people.
[00:31:29]  In this case, the therapist and others.
[00:31:31]  It's one thing to ask for tolerance, which means to put up with.
[00:31:35]  It's quite another to begin with affirmation.
[00:31:37]  I don't need to affirm anything.
[00:31:39]  Don't ask me to affirm that which I find viscerally repulsive.
[00:31:44]  I mean, I totally agree with that.
[00:31:46]  And good people need to start to fight.
[00:31:48]  And they need to start to draw the line in the sand.
[00:31:50]  I think one of the other reasons as to why Disney has become so radical is I also believe they're being held hostage by their own gay employees.
[00:31:59]  There's a lot of the people in the creative arts that might not be gay themselves.
[00:32:04]  There's plenty of those, but they are sympathetic to the LGBTQ cause, right?
[00:32:10]  And this is not, I'm not speculating.
[00:32:12]  The Disney executives justified in shareholder meetings why they dug in so much with the Florida bill that their employees were so passionate about this employee walkouts.
[00:32:22]  So can you talk about that?
[00:32:23]  Graphic designers, copy editors, they are disproportionately at least, at the very least, sympathetic to this radical LGBTQ agenda.
[00:32:33]  They are.
[00:32:33]  And I wish I could give you a more definitive answer in terms of what percent of those people in the gay community are that way, because there's plenty of evidence to show that they're not a monolithic group.
[00:32:44]  I mean, you've got intellectuals, of course, like Andrew Sullivan, who's simply broken away from this whole transgender insanity.
[00:32:50]  You've got Erica Anderson, who was the first psychotherapist in the country, transgender, who says, this has gone too far.
[00:32:57]  I want nothing to do with it.
[00:32:59]  We saw it even in the movie.
[00:33:01]  We interviewed people who are admittedly gay, and they say they don't speak for me.
[00:33:06]  As usual, the loud minority is the one that his voice is heard.
[00:33:10]  But we don't live in a society where we have the majority taking away minority rights.
[00:33:15]  That's why we have a Bill of Rights.
[00:33:17]  But we also shouldn't live in a society where you have the tyranny of the minority, where those people with the biggest megaphone and access to Wall Street money and are afraid of interfering with this whole idea of equity and inclusion that BlackRock and the others are selling.
[00:33:32]  We shouldn't be subject to them either.
[00:33:35]  There needs to be more people who are in the gay community who are good people who want to speak up and say, listen, count me out.
[00:33:42]  This has gone too far.
[00:33:44]  I agree.
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[00:33:48]  Bill, thank you so much.
[00:33:50]  Thank you, Charlie.
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[00:33:56]  Getting a fair amount of emails about the Arizona State University controversy.
[00:34:00]  It really shouldn't even be much of a controversy.
[00:34:02]  I mean, if you were to come up with the least controversial title of a speech, I think you would probably come up with Health, Wealth, and Happiness.
[00:34:13]  Health, Wealth, and Happiness.
[00:34:14]  That's the name of our talk tomorrow.
[00:34:16]  Dennis Prager and Robert Kiwasaki, who's very well respected.
[00:34:19]  Rich Dad, poor dad.
[00:34:22]  That's a great lineup.
[00:34:23]  It should be fun now.
[00:34:24]  But a vast majority of the professors at Arizona State University, 37 out of 47 of them, don't want us to be able to speak.
[00:34:35]  You know why?
[00:34:35]  Because they say these people are not inclusive.
[00:34:39]  Fascinating.
[00:34:41]  The least tolerant people typically end up being the ones that are telling you how tolerant they are.
[00:34:49]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:34:51]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:34:55]  Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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