The Charlie Kirk Show - Who Controls Twitter's Doxx Force? + Recovering SBF's Blood Money with Darren Beattie and John Chachas
Aired: 2022-12-17
Duration: 33:35


=== Unpacking The FTX Scandal (09:05) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, it's in the Charlie Kirk show.
[00:00:01]  The FTX scandal continues.
[00:00:04]  John Chachus helps us really unpack that.
[00:00:07]  Darren Beattie joins the program about the RNC and why is it that Republicans are better at grifting than Democrats.
[00:00:15]  It's very concerning.
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[00:01:21]  Someone says here, Jeff Jeff says, Charlie, we need Harmeet, a tough election lawyer, as chair in partnership with Mike Lindell to run the operational money side of the RNC to clean it up.
[00:01:30]  Harmeet to fight the lawfare battles and win elections, Mike to clean up the money and the organizational side of the RNC.
[00:01:36]  It is true.
[00:01:36]  Mike Lindell has run a very serious company in a size in a serious way.
[00:01:42]  All right, John Chachis joins us now.
[00:01:43]  John, one of the first believers in the vision of Turning Point USA.
[00:01:46]  And for that, I am eternally grateful.
[00:01:48]  John, welcome to the program.
[00:01:49]  Tell us your thoughts on FTX.
[00:01:52]  Well, let's peel back the onion because it's a complicated mess.
[00:01:56]  FTX is a large, complicated bankruptcy that will be investigated for some time.
[00:02:06]  And the new CEO of the company is going to find a lot of loss, a lot of lost money that left customer accounts.
[00:02:13]  So the first place, as a financial person, first rule of finance, don't touch other people's money unless they tell you to do something with it.
[00:02:20]  That has clearly not occurred at FTX.
[00:02:23]  And Sam Bankman-Freed and Ryan Salome and Nishad Singh, the people that were associated with this company, and probably others, Carolyn Ellison and others that were part of this entourage, are all going to be held to account by an awful lot of legal analysis of where did the money go.
[00:02:40]  So let's start with.
[00:02:42]  That's a problem.
[00:02:44]  But the bigger problem from a political standpoint is that something akin to $70 million worth of money.
[00:02:52]  And you can get this.
[00:02:53]  I'm not making this up.
[00:02:54]  You can go to opensecrets.org right now while you're on the phone.
[00:02:58]  And right below the picture of Sam Bankman-Freed, there's a little button that says click here to look at the analysis.
[00:03:05]  You can click on it.
[00:03:06]  And what it will pull up for you is a Google sheet that accumulates all of the FEC filings.
[00:03:14]  These are federal election campaign filings of monies that went from these particular individuals to where it went.
[00:03:22]  And the amounts of money, and this is just the last cycle that you will find if you go do that right now, is about 40, 40, who's am I trying to freed, it's 46.5 million.
[00:03:38]  And then there's all these, there's all these surrogates too, and employees.
[00:03:42]  And John, you made a really smart point when we were texting about this.
[00:03:45]  Was this their money?
[00:03:46]  Did they declare it as income?
[00:03:48]  That's really so crazy.
[00:03:50]  At the extreme, let's start with the simple.
[00:03:52]  A couple years ago, Dustin Moskowitz, or I think his last name is Moskowitz, the Facebook.
[00:03:59]  Who is a founder of Facebook sold a bunch of his Facebook shares, took a bunch of his money and spent 50 million bucks on American elections because he felt strongly about things.
[00:04:09]  It's his business.
[00:04:10]  It's his dough.
[00:04:12]  Here, I think it's hard for you to convince me that Ryan Salome took $23,459,000 of his money and that Nasheed Singh took $14 million of his money and Sam Blankman took $43 million of his money and did that with it.
[00:04:27]  And until we know for a fact, until we know for a fact it was their money, given the fact pattern surrounding everything that's happened with FTX, it is a completely reasonable assumption that some pile of this money is ill-gotten money that cannot be treated this way.
[00:04:45]  So all of the many, many, many members of Congress and some senators, which by the way, total only about 10% of that 70 million.
[00:04:55]  We're going to come back to where the rest of it goes in a second.
[00:04:58]  I would be of the view all of them need to send the money back.
[00:05:02]  And if they can't send it to a federal trustee, remember in the Madoff case, Irving Picard and David Sheehan became the trustees and they rounded up $14.5 billion of the lost Madoff money over a period of about five years.
[00:05:16]  They got it back.
[00:05:17]  Wow.
[00:05:17]  We don't have a federally appointed trustee.
[00:05:20]  It will happen though.
[00:05:22]  But it will happen.
[00:05:23]  But in the meantime, and I'm going to give you a quote: I had a conversation with Mitt Romney by a text this morning, and Mitt said, one, I am saddened to know that we received money from such people.
[00:05:36]  Two, I have directed my staff to return it, and it's all being wired today to the U.S. Federal Treasury.
[00:05:43]  Three, I would really like to know that my colleagues do the same thing and return it because this is terrible for American politics and American finance.
[00:05:51]  And I take my hat off to Mitt.
[00:05:53]  That is the thing that every single one of the recipients of this money should do.
[00:05:57]  And the list is long.
[00:05:59]  It is a long list.
[00:06:00]  It contains Republicans and Democrats, contains a lot more Democrats than it contains Republicans.
[00:06:05]  But there are people on both sides of the aisle and they should send the money back.
[00:06:09]  The real volume of funds, though, John, here is the Chauncey McClain future forward pack and Protect Our Future PAC.
[00:06:19]  That money is no longer there.
[00:06:20]  There's no money that's not.
[00:06:21]  No, no, no.
[00:06:21]  No, that's right.
[00:06:22]  That's the big, the much bigger problem is that I don't know.
[00:06:25]  I'm going to make an estimate here, Charlie, but if you went and you added up, if you, again, go to openseecrets.org and you just open the thing and look at the tab, there's gigantic sums of money that have gone to these packs.
[00:06:39]  And, you know, Chauncey McClain's PAC is one.
[00:06:44]  There's a second one, Future that Protect Our Future.
[00:06:47]  They have all these weird corny names.
[00:06:48]  Protect Our Future.
[00:06:49]  By the way, Protect Our Future was run by a 31-year-old fellow who graduated from Oberlin in 2013.
[00:06:56]  Chauncey McLean's about 40 years old.
[00:06:58]  These guys took piles of money and downstreamed it into a massive number of political campaigns in the last political cycle.
[00:07:07]  And the problem for them is it was stolen money.
[00:07:10]  And they're going to have a hell of a time figuring out how they get it.
[00:07:14]  This is really important.
[00:07:14]  This is not insignificant, John.
[00:07:16]  So now these major Democrat packs, they might actually be required to refund money that is no longer there.
[00:07:23]  How does that work then in a bankruptcy proceeding?
[00:07:26]  I truly have, by the way, and I want to be clear about this.
[00:07:30]  I don't know about like the PAC called American Dream Federal Action.
[00:07:34]  There's 15 million that went into that one.
[00:07:36]  That's a conservative pack.
[00:07:38]  There is value in electing women, another conservative pack.
[00:07:40]  So, you know, there's real money.
[00:07:42]  There's 15, 18, $20 million that, and it looks like when you look at the data, Ryan Salome was the person of the three that gave monies into the R side of the equation.
[00:07:52]  And Sam Bankman Fried and Nishad Singh gave into the D side of the equation.
[00:07:56]  And it's about, by my very rough estimate so far, sort of $7, $750 to 75% left Democrat, 20% right Republican.
[00:08:08]  But that money was spent in the election cycle.
[00:08:12]  And it was probably, you know, probably is too strong a word.
[00:08:16]  I'm dying to see how these three individuals demonstrate that this was their money.
[00:08:22]  Yeah, and not to mention, and this is the question, did any of the people running the PACs have any whisper or any piece of evidence that this money was not kosher?
[00:08:35]  I have no way to know.
[00:08:36]  No, but that is the question, though, right?
[00:08:38]  That needs to be asked.
[00:08:40]  It's an absolutely fair question.
[00:08:41]  And what we really now know is that a pile of money was misappropriated from FTX and Alameda.
[00:08:49]  Alameda was losing money left and right.
[00:08:51]  A handful of people who are constituents in control of that money gave pantloads of money into the political system.
[00:09:00]  And the right thing to do is what Mitt did, which is to tell people you need to send it to the U.S. Treasury and give it back.

=== Saving Pre-Born Lives Now (02:17) ===

[00:09:05]  And so I think there's a whole lot of people in Congress and the Senate who are going to be writing $5,800 checks, $10,000 checks, and sending it somewhere to cleanse that, you know, to get rid of it.
[00:09:16]  Because these are good.
[00:09:16]  I think for the most part, we have good people in Congress who don't really want to be in this position, but they're now in this position where the people that gave the money probably stole it.
[00:09:26]  And then you have Joe Biden that took $5.2 million.
[00:09:29]  We'll see if he returns it.
[00:09:30]  John, great commentary, and thank you so much.
[00:09:32]  Appreciate it.
[00:09:33]  Nice seeing you, Charlie.
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=== AmericaFest Tickets Sold Out (03:54) ===

[00:11:23]  AmFest starts in just a couple hours.
[00:11:26]  We still have some tickets remaining.
[00:11:27]  I was just talking to my team.
[00:11:29]  They are about to put up the sold-out graphic.
[00:11:33]  It's really close.
[00:11:34]  We are right on the cusp.
[00:11:36]  And so if you want to get your tickets, AmFest.com, Tucker Carlson, Kaylee McEnany, Candace Owens.
[00:11:42]  And now Joe Bob is going to give us a short little preview.
[00:11:45]  What is the stage going to look like?
[00:11:47]  Joe Bob, how are we doing?
[00:11:49]  Hey, doing great.
[00:11:50]  Hey, I think you missed.
[00:11:51]  There's a pretty big speaker.
[00:11:52]  A guy's name is Charlie Kirk.
[00:11:54]  Not sure if your audience is familiar with him, but he's also going to be there.
[00:11:57]  Let me give you a brief, just a tiny little taste of what we're looking at here.
[00:12:02]  Check it out.
[00:12:03]  Look at these big, look at the crowd audience.
[00:12:05]  I'm not going to show you this screen in the back, but there's risers.
[00:12:08]  Like, there's not enough room to have everybody here.
[00:12:12]  So, you got to have people go up in a rising situation.
[00:12:14]  Obviously, it's entirely set up yet because it takes a very long time to set up 10,000 plus chairs or even more than that.
[00:12:23]  But there's probably, I don't know, 200 people working in here right now to get this all set up and organized.
[00:12:29]  So, it'll be just a rocking party starting tomorrow night.
[00:12:33]  So, where are you standing?
[00:12:34]  You're standing right in front of, I think, the biggest stage in the entire conservative movement.
[00:12:39]  And I think it's by a lot, too.
[00:12:41]  I think that might even be an understatement.
[00:12:42]  Yes, the biggest stage in the entire conservative movement by like 10 times.
[00:12:48]  If I were to do a lap around this stage, it would probably be my cardio for the day.
[00:12:53]  I think I'd be done working out because of how expansive this thing is.
[00:12:57]  I probably would trip all over the stairs, too.
[00:13:00]  And there's a pit in here.
[00:13:02]  It's wild.
[00:13:03]  There's also sparklers, sparkler flare things that go up.
[00:13:07]  I don't know.
[00:13:07]  The production value on this thing is so insane.
[00:13:10]  It is.
[00:13:11]  Oh, show a little bit of the stage, just a little bit.
[00:13:14]  Yeah.
[00:13:15]  A little bit.
[00:13:16]  There you go.
[00:13:17]  There you go.
[00:13:18]  That's all.
[00:13:18]  That's all you get.
[00:13:19]  A little bit of a taste.
[00:13:21]  Lauren's going to be so mad at me, but hey, everybody can get your tickets.
[00:13:24]  Amfest.com.
[00:13:25]  It's going to be incredible.
[00:13:27]  And look, we are about to sell out of tickets.
[00:13:31]  People are, they're coming in from the rivers and they're coming in from the valleys and they're coming in from the desert.
[00:13:37]  And the speakers are just incredible.
[00:13:40]  I know people are working so hard there.
[00:13:41]  Joe Bob, how could people follow you on social media as you continue to post updates?
[00:13:45]  AmFest, we are just about 30 hours out.
[00:13:49]  Yeah, just J-O-B-O-B, Joe Bob.
[00:13:51]  One grandparent was Joe.
[00:13:52]  One of them was Bob.
[00:13:54]  Weird name.
[00:13:54]  We won't dwell on it.
[00:13:55]  You find me over there.
[00:13:56]  I'm going to be posting probably too much, honestly.
[00:13:59]  If you want to see the entirety of this thing, yeah, I guess you can follow me there.
[00:14:02]  But also, it's going to be a lot because I don't even think I can encompass all of this here.
[00:14:07]  This is, again, just one component.
[00:14:09]  This is the largest component, but it's just one component.
[00:14:12]  You've got the whole exhibitor hall out there, which I think we're going to come to next.
[00:14:15]  And then we've obviously were in media row earlier.
[00:14:19]  It's wild.
[00:14:19]  So yeah, we'll be here all weekend with, I don't know, the biggest crowd in the conservative movement by far.
[00:14:28]  Yeah, it is the largest multi-day event in the entire conservative movement.
[00:14:31]  Joe Bob, thanks so much.
[00:14:33]  Appreciate it, man.
[00:14:34]  Everybody, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:14:38]  There's so many stories here that we want to cover.
[00:14:40]  I believe we have Darren Beattie joining us next.
[00:14:43]  And somebody said, Charlie, how do I get tickets for AmFest?
[00:14:46]  It's amfest.com.
[00:14:47]  And we just have a couple hours left until we get it all started and we go there.
[00:14:53]  I want to play 102, Mark Levin covering the spending of the RNC Play Cut 102.
[00:15:01]  Jennifer Van Law.
[00:15:02]  But she points out that under this current RNC chair, they have been on a spending spree.
[00:15:10]  She says, despite Joe Biden's economy and three straight cycles of election losses, the RNC's big spending days are back with a vengeance.

=== Fixing Broken Incentive Structures (11:52) ===

[00:15:17]  Our review found that amounts spent during the 21-22 election cycle seem to have been par for the course and possibly even lower than previous portions of McDaniel's tenure.
[00:15:29]  McDaniel did not reply to Red State's request for comment prior to publication.
[00:15:34]  So many of you have emailed me saying, Charlie, I gave $100 I didn't have.
[00:15:38]  I gave $50 I did not have.
[00:15:42]  I gave $50 a month.
[00:15:44]  And then you have it squandered on that.
[00:15:47]  It's sick.
[00:15:49]  It really is.
[00:15:50]  $700,000 on flowers.
[00:15:53]  And it'd be one thing if you're winning every single election and you're doing just a grand old job.
[00:16:00]  But when you lose a net Senate seat in a year that should have been a red wave year, you got to wonder where is all that money being spent?
[00:16:09]  Well, now we know being spent on Lululemon, REI, vineyard vines, $700,000 for flowers, $17 million for donor mementos.
[00:16:19]  Darren Beattie made a really smart point to me.
[00:16:21]  He said, Charlie, the problem is conservatives' incentive structure is we get paid no matter whether or not we win or lose.
[00:16:28]  Democrats, they get paid once they control the government and they get all the crony detail deals that they pass through legislation.
[00:16:35]  They don't win, they don't get their crony deals passed.
[00:16:38]  For us, it's kind of like, yeah, win or lose, everybody gets paid.
[00:16:41]  All of those consultants around Herschel Walker got paid to lose with a lot of your money.
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[00:17:51]  Darren, there's several topics I want to dance around with you.
[00:17:54]  You're going to be at AmericaFest.
[00:17:55]  Looking forward to seeing you.
[00:17:56]  It's going to be spectacular.
[00:17:58]  So, first, Darren, I thought you made a really smart point about the incentive structure of Republicans versus Democrats when you and I were texting about the waste of the RC money.
[00:18:08]  Can you make that argument?
[00:18:09]  I thought it was really smart.
[00:18:11]  Yes, and unfortunately, I can't take credit for it myself.
[00:18:14]  Someone on Twitter did it, and I don't know who it is, but it's a basic insight from which a tremendous amount of important conclusions can flow.
[00:18:26]  And the basic insight is this: that the Republicans, generally speaking, grift off of the process, primarily the election process.
[00:18:37]  They grift by sending you a million different messages saying, Hey, friend, have you donated $10 yet?
[00:18:46]  Have you donated $20 yet?
[00:18:47]  All the messages you get, they're taking money, they're getting money from donors, they're forking it over to very highly paid consultants who, in many cases, end up simply losing for candidates or giving the candidates bad advice that either results in a loss or results in the candidates presenting a weaker message that's not attractive to the patriotic American voter.
[00:19:11]  But the key point is that it's the process itself that feeds the coffers of the grifters on the Republican side.
[00:19:22]  And why this is important is that they don't really have to win.
[00:19:26]  They don't have to deliver because they make money off of the process.
[00:19:30]  By contrast, and I have to give credit where it's due, it's something that we as conservatives have been complaining about ad infinitum that what the Democrats do is they're stealing the taxpayer money, and that's absolutely true.
[00:19:45]  And ultimately, probably not a great model to run the country.
[00:19:49]  But from the Democrats' incentive structure, it actually is a lot better for them because at the very least, in order for them to have access to the public purse, in order for them to be able to distribute the taxpayer money, they actually have to win.
[00:20:06]  And so the incentive alignment there is so much more powerful.
[00:20:11]  And so if anybody has been wondering why the GOP has been relegated to this kind of controlled opposition sort of little brother type, you know, robin to the regime Batman sort of party.
[00:20:26]  Well, part of the reason for it and part of the kind of structural explanation for it is that the relevant people on the Republican side, they get fed, they have their good steak dinners, whether they lose or not, because they're drifting from you.
[00:20:40]  If you're watching this, they're taking your money versus the Democrats.
[00:20:46]  They're so plugged into the entire federal apparatus that they win and then they use that broad taxpayer base.
[00:20:54]  Yes.
[00:20:55]  That's how they get paid.
[00:20:57]  That's the key difference.
[00:20:59]  And they're so, you could write a whole book about all of the key implications of this basic insight.
[00:21:06]  That's so smart because the Republican consultant class, their lifestyle does not change at all, whether they win or lose at all.
[00:21:18]  I mean, they might get access to a couple more friends or that, but they keep on getting rehired and they get promoted simply because that they're in the quote unquote consultant class.
[00:21:31]  So Darren, how do we go about fixing this then?
[00:21:34]  Well, it's a great question.
[00:21:36]  And just before I get into the fix, I don't want to give the impression this is the only thing.
[00:21:40]  I think, you know, frankly, in a lot of cases, the Republican consultants are not really true believers.
[00:21:46]  They don't have any genuine convictions, whereas the people on the Democrat side actually do, you know, want to push all of this woke nonsense.
[00:21:53]  So there are other key factors at play, but this is one absolutely critical structural dimension that we're talking about right now.
[00:22:01]  So the question is, how to solve it?
[00:22:03]  Well, the first thing is I don't think this dynamic is even part of the lexicon.
[00:22:08]  So simply talking about it and addressing the problem in these terms is a huge step.
[00:22:13]  Secondly, I'd say we need to standardize certain mechanisms in terms of the political economy of how campaigns are financed, how money is raised that sort of improves the incentive structure.
[00:22:27]  And so in the standard contracts that consultants get and things like this, it needs to be weighted a lot more heavily to outcome-based compensation.
[00:22:41]  I know like the typical kind of contract has like certain benchmarks and things like this.
[00:22:46]  We need to standardize a praxis whereby it's weighted much, much more heavily toward a successful outcome and not you just get paid to basically do nothing.
[00:22:57]  And if you do something, it's usually counterproductive to the prospects of whoever you're allegedly giving good advice to.
[00:23:04]  So I think that's one key thing to built in, build that into the incentive structure.
[00:23:10]  I think maybe building off of Trump's excellent policy speech on how to deal with that censorship.
[00:23:19]  Yesterday, I mean, there was all this kind of nonsense about the trading cards or whatever, but it's too bad because there was actually a fabulous policy announcement yesterday.
[00:23:29]  Tell us about it.
[00:23:31]  Well, yeah, I'll go into detail on that, but just a quick sort of nexus point between those two.
[00:23:37]  One of the items that Trump recommended was like a, I think he said a seven-year moratorium.
[00:23:43]  So if you worked in the Intel community, you have to wait seven years before you enter the revolving door of occupying some trust and safety position in big tech.
[00:23:54]  So it sort of slows down considerably the momentum of the revolving door.
[00:23:59]  Similarly, I think we need some kind of negative consequences in place for these serial campaign consultants who just go from one losing operation and they grab $60,000 a month contracts.
[00:24:14]  They go from one $60,000 a month loss to the next.
[00:24:18]  We need to impose, again, this isn't going to be a matter of law, but it's a matter of sort of convention within the political economy of how things are done with campaigns and consultants.
[00:24:29]  If you're one of these $60,000 a month losers, you have to wait a certain period before you're given any other campaign.
[00:24:37]  Seriously.
[00:24:37]  There needs to be some kind of mechanism like that to deal with this problem, because if the incentives are not properly aligned, we're going to continue to see the same types of results.
[00:24:49]  That's exactly right.
[00:24:51]  It's remarkably frustrating.
[00:24:52]  Okay, Darren, I want to shift gears here.
[00:24:54]  Elon went on a ban spree last night for sharing coordinates of his own personal location.
[00:25:02]  What are your thoughts on that entire drama that is still unfolding?
[00:25:06]  Well, you know, there's, I personally can't help but feel a bit of a bit of Schadenfreude against these types.
[00:25:15]  I mean, it is, there is a certain delicious irony to seeing these figures whose really only job was to be commissars on behalf of the corrupt and illegitimate and censorious Biden regime.
[00:25:31]  And so to see these people like in on the other side, to see them have to experience, oh my God, we've spent years and years building up our career on Twitter.
[00:25:40]  How can you take our livelihood for us?
[00:25:42]  Like this isn't a matter of day-to-day life for anyone who tries to put forward a counter narrative on social media up till very recently when Elon took over Twitter.
[00:25:56]  So it's sort of a shoe on the other foot type of situation, which I think is quite nice.
[00:26:03]  And then there's the other element, which is I do think doxing is one of those, one of the very few things that actually should be controlled in terms of speech.
[00:26:13]  So we do want to control those things and on both sides and give them a sense that, say, look, you're welcome on the platform.
[00:26:20]  You can continue to thrive on the platform, but you have to play by the same rules as everyone else.
[00:26:25]  And just as a third point on it, I would kind of just to counter veil my initial kind of enthusiasm for these people's very well-deserved misfortune in being banned.
[00:26:39]  I don't ultimately think it's a good thing for these blue check woke journos to be banned from the platform, because I think part of the unique value of Twitter is it's the one place that offers now, with actual free speech, something close to an even playing field and battle arena in which people on the right can actually debate with and clash with people on the left and close to.

=== Beyond Calling Taylor Lorenz A Doxer (05:39) ===

[00:27:09]  fair terms.
[00:27:10]  It's the only place where that can kind of happen.
[00:27:13]  And if we get to a point where a lot of these people are leaving, which they're not because they're addicted like everyone else and to the network effects, but if they actually did leave, I think that would be actually a significant net loss for speech and for Twitter.
[00:27:29]  Yeah, I want to just enjoy Taylor Lorenz's neuroticism.
[00:27:36]  I just want to, I want to delight in it.
[00:27:40]  I want to marinate in her freak out because she's a very, she's a, she is the chief doxer.
[00:27:47]  She tried to destroy Libs of TikTok's life.
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[00:28:56]  Darren, for those people that live beautiful and wonderful lives and have never heard about Taylor Lorenz, that's why they're happy.
[00:29:03]  Tell us who Taylor Lorenz is.
[00:29:06]  Well, she is an hysterical, neurotic doxer who makes a living off of revealing dangerous personal information about people.
[00:29:17]  Not personal information that's incriminating, just people that she doesn't agree with politically or, you know, probably better said people who her handlers and the people who control her because she's not really a sovereign entity.
[00:29:30]  She's just an instrument.
[00:29:33]  The people that the regime doesn't like, they select mediocre, talentless, sociopathic, hysterical banshees of the regime like Taylor Lorenz to be the vehicle through which they publish personal information of people who dare tack what Biden is doing and the regime and other things.
[00:29:54]  And they reveal the personal information for the precise purpose of putting their lives in danger.
[00:30:00]  And that's what she does.
[00:30:01]  That's Taylor Lorenz in a nutshell.
[00:30:03]  One of the issues, I think, Darren, is that she herself was chief doxer against libs of TikTok.
[00:30:08]  That was really where she tried to reveal this anonymous account whose only crime was noticing.
[00:30:18]  Whose only crime was noticing, absolutely.
[00:30:20]  So as we were saying, the whole purpose is to, here's an account, here's an individual who's operating under a pseudonym because these days you can't really challenge the regime openly unless you face public attacks and sometimes physical attacks, which you've experienced, I've experienced.
[00:30:37]  That's the name of the game.
[00:30:38]  And, you know, some people aren't crazy like we are, and they actually don't want to have to deal with that nonsense.
[00:30:43]  And so they operate under pseudonyms.
[00:30:46]  And what the regime lackeys and doxers do is they try to uncover that information to put these people in danger.
[00:30:55]  But there's one, like, there's a very dark rabbit hole behind the whole Taylor Lorenz thing that I want to make sure people understand is that to call her the doxer is actually giving her too much credit.
[00:31:07]  She's the mouthpiece for the dox, but revolver.news published a while ago a piece that actually the people who uncovered the personal information that Taylor Lorenz amplified are Antifa hackers who are funded by the German government to conduct doxing operations.
[00:31:24]  So she's just a mouthpiece.
[00:31:26]  And there are very, very nefarious actors who are these Antifa hacker organizations that are in the case is government funded.
[00:31:34]  Yeah, funded by the German government funding things.
[00:31:38]  Not exactly a good track record over the last hundred years.
[00:31:40]  Play cut 104, please.
[00:31:42]  It's just so rich to hear him complain about doxing and harassment.
[00:31:46]  I mean, I am doxed and harassed constantly on this app.
[00:31:51]  And it's just weird because definitely in the past few weeks, for instance, people tweeting out stuff like information about my family or all the stuff that's been used to target my family directly in the past.
[00:32:03]  Like, so I feel like Elon is very focused on his own experience, but for the rest of us, it's definitely become a less safe platform.
[00:32:11]  Look, I mean, for example, we know with greater certainty when Marcus Aurelius was born than Taylor Lorenz.
[00:32:17]  If you go to Wikipedia, they say that she was born anytime between 1984 and 1987.
[00:32:23]  Taylor Lorenz crying about the very crime that she herself inflicts against conservatives.
[00:32:30]  Absolutely.
[00:32:31]  It's a remarkable display of solipsism and sociopathy that can only be expressed by someone like Lorenz, who is handpicked as just sort of a mediocre, compliant mouthpiece for a regime and forces much bigger than her, much bigger than she understands.

=== Threats And Regime Problems (00:46) ===

[00:32:49]  And her only job is to use her mouthpiece and her perch at Washington Post in order to inflict danger and physical threats upon people who disagree with those who are promoting her.
[00:33:02]  So she's the most disgusting kind of scum imaginable.
[00:33:06]  And part of the problem with our current regime right now is that it buttresses people like this who should really be in the gutter somewhere.
[00:33:14]  Yeah, she's the worst.
[00:33:16]  Darren, we'll see you in a couple hours at AmericaFest.
[00:33:18]  Looking forward to it.
[00:33:18]  Thanks so much.
[00:33:22]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:33:23]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:33:26]  Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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