The Charlie Kirk Show - Critical Election Theory with Dr. James Lindsay and Dr. Michael O'Fallon
Aired: 2022-12-11
Duration: 01:12:50


=== The Dangerous Democracy Game (14:29) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
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[00:00:16]  We talk about the election.
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[00:00:34]  Here we go.
[00:00:35]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:37]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:00:39]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:42]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:45]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:46]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:47]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
[00:00:55]  Turning point USA.
[00:00:56]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:05]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:08]  Charlie, tell us, now we're in Phoenix, Arizona, Gilbert, Arizona, right now.
[00:01:12]  Is there anything that's happened in Arizona that maybe seems like a simulacroma simulation of what was real in regards to how the operational things happened with, I don't know, maybe elections or anything?
[00:01:27]  Well, first, honor to be here.
[00:01:29]  I know that I'm at a sovereign nations O'Fallon-Lindsay event when I don't know what the word means when it says the name of the conference.
[00:01:38]  So I have to, I have to, I mean, I have to go back to my Latin, so it's probably like synthetic or artificial.
[00:01:44]  I wasn't that far off, by the way.
[00:01:46]  So not exactly a word I use every day.
[00:01:48]  Anyway, honor to be here, guys.
[00:01:50]  Thank you.
[00:01:50]  I think we'll have some fun.
[00:01:52]  And anything for these two guys, I wanted to make space and time for this.
[00:01:56]  So, yeah, I mean, if the whole premise of, you know, those of us that live here in Arizona, which I'm guessing is almost all of us here, we just lived through something very synthetic and artificial.
[00:02:06]  I'm not saying that there wasn't an election result at every up and down the ballot, which that was the will of the people.
[00:02:13]  But unfortunately, I was naive enough to believe that we still had elections in our country.
[00:02:19]  But we do in some sense.
[00:02:21]  We do where people are still able to fill out pieces of paper.
[00:02:25]  But an election is no longer about the quality of the candidate or the message.
[00:02:30]  It's about a couple of things.
[00:02:31]  Can you raise boatloads of money and just absolutely saturate television?
[00:02:34]  That does matter.
[00:02:36]  How many times did we see Carrie Lake is too extreme for Arizona, Blake Masters too extreme for Arizona?
[00:02:41]  And then can you put pieces of paper in a box within a 30-day window?
[00:02:45]  And that's the new game.
[00:02:47]  And they call that game democracy.
[00:02:49]  And only one side is playing it.
[00:02:51]  Now, our side has this understandable attachment to the reverence and the importance of going and showing up on Election Day.
[00:03:00]  Okay, I love that.
[00:03:01]  It's a great tradition.
[00:03:03]  It's also no longer the way to win.
[00:03:05]  I'm just going to be very honest.
[00:03:07]  It is mathematically impossible, thanks to Stephen Richer and Bill Gates here in Maricopa County, to facilitate the hundreds of thousands of people that actually want to vote in person on Election Day.
[00:03:18]  You can't do it.
[00:03:19]  And we saw what ended up happening.
[00:03:21]  One out of four machines failed, which then had lines go longer than they needed to go.
[00:03:25]  Anthem had three and a half hour waits.
[00:03:27]  And I mean, one testimony of a poll worker said there were 675 people in line at 7 p.m.
[00:03:33]  And only 125 of them ended up voting.
[00:03:36]  That right there is 500 disenfranchised voters.
[00:03:39]  You couple that with boosted artificial Kerry Lake polls where you think Kerry Lake's going to win by 10 points.
[00:03:44]  You then can convince yourself that it's not the most important thing to do on your schedule.
[00:03:49]  And here we are.
[00:03:51]  And so there is no other word to say it than a tragedy.
[00:03:54]  I'll be very honest.
[00:03:56]  Carrie Lake, I believe, is a once-in-a-generation candidate, and she had so many different forces working against her.
[00:04:01]  But for me personally, it is a further wake-up call and a time for introspection that what should be an election no longer exists.
[00:04:10]  Katie Hobbs did not debate.
[00:04:12]  She did not have events.
[00:04:13]  Her biggest event, I think, was seven people.
[00:04:15]  She didn't take critical questions from the press.
[00:04:17]  Carrie Lake did multiple events a day.
[00:04:19]  She met with voters.
[00:04:20]  She took tens of thousands of selfies and photos of people.
[00:04:23]  She got to know people.
[00:04:24]  She ran a better campaign, and you lose.
[00:04:26]  Well, that's because the way we do elections in our country are dead.
[00:04:30]  It's over, and we have to adjust.
[00:04:33]  I have recommendations of what that looks like, including we have to change our behavior.
[00:04:37]  We have to go to in-person election early voting.
[00:04:41]  You will never win Arizona again if you keep on telling people just to keep showing up on election day.
[00:04:45]  It's not going to happen.
[00:04:46]  They're trying to destroy Election Day as we know it in our country.
[00:04:50]  And they're doing a pretty good job of it.
[00:04:52]  Been a rather eventful month and a half here in Arizona.
[00:04:55]  I actually had a cancel on both of them.
[00:04:56]  I feel so bad.
[00:04:57]  I was supposed to go to Oxford and debate James Lindsay because those morons over there thought he was a liberal or something.
[00:05:02]  I don't know.
[00:05:02]  It was super weird.
[00:05:03]  So they put him on the woke side and me on the non-woke side.
[00:05:09]  And, you know, since it takes two weeks to count ballots here in Maricopa, it was like day 10.
[00:05:15]  And I texted him, I'm like, guys, I can't leave to go to Oxford right now.
[00:05:19]  And so it actually ended up probably being a very good decision for other reasons.
[00:05:23]  But it's just to kind of go, I'll just kind of take a capstone on this.
[00:05:27]  We can have a conversation.
[00:05:28]  I feel as if we are living through a simulation, a synthetic exercise when it comes to our elections.
[00:05:35]  And that's really disappointing.
[00:05:37]  But if it is a game, then I want to win the game.
[00:05:41]  And that's it.
[00:05:42]  We're going to have to figure out how to win the game.
[00:05:44]  And unfortunately, it took a less than desirable midterm election outcome to get us there.
[00:05:51]  And did this in any way, Dr. Lindsay, because you and I have spoken about this quite a bit, and I was trying to explain to people back in 2020 that as much as Donald Trump was having 35,000, 40,000 people showing up at some of these rallies, that he would not win.
[00:06:08]  And it was just a question of it being something that would work towards the operational success of what so many others, even within a Time magazine report that was done just a few months after the election itself.
[00:06:18]  Basically, when you have a top-down, bottom-up, inside-out move that is saying we are going to work together to make sure that we secure the election and keep America safe and make sure that democracy continues, which means something completely different.
[00:06:33]  But Dr. Lindsay had a wonderful way of being able to explain this, and he did so on Twitter as well.
[00:06:40]  You know, what was it?
[00:06:41]  Critical election theory.
[00:06:44]  Critical election theory.
[00:06:45]  Yeah.
[00:06:46]  You know, systemic election fraud exists and it benefits the whole thing.
[00:06:50]  And if you question it or whatever, you have election fragility.
[00:06:53]  Yada, yada, yada, yada.
[00:06:55]  So I turned the entire idea of critical race theory into critical election theory, turned it upside down, and nobody knew what to do with it.
[00:07:02]  They didn't know if they should call me an election denier.
[00:07:06]  They didn't know what to do with it because for them to criticize what I was saying required them to criticize the logic that they used to do the systemic racism arguments, the cis heteronormativity arguments.
[00:07:17]  And I just had more and more and more fun with it.
[00:07:19]  People would start to say that I was crazy and I made a bunch of plaques with like the exact things I put on Twitter, just the exact same words.
[00:07:24]  And I would just, you know, like memes or whatever.
[00:07:26]  And I just tagged them with the meme and just put it up there to deny that the election benefits those who rig elections or something like that.
[00:07:34]  It was just this crazy to deny election fraud exists is to benefit those who benefit from election fraud.
[00:07:42]  It was all this like twisted circular logic that makes it so that you can't possibly deny whatever it is that you want to have.
[00:07:50]  And this is really what's kind of going on.
[00:07:52]  It's always these weird manipulations of language through critical this or critical that.
[00:07:56]  Like we could say we have critical elections right now if you want to.
[00:08:00]  It's all about stretching the diet, the, what am I looking for?
[00:08:05]  The lexical range, the meanings of words, changing what words mean and changing the shape of how words relate to one another in a really strategic way.
[00:08:15]  So when they need to expand the scope of a definition like elections, it now includes drop boxes for a month.
[00:08:21]  When they need to contract the definition of an election, which means Joe Biden wins, then it contracts to a point in an instant.
[00:08:27]  It's like a funhouse mirror and they get to control when words expand and contract.
[00:08:31]  Mike alluded to the fact that the word democracy is in fact one of these words.
[00:08:36]  You often will hear, it's not 100% of the time, but you will often hear them say, our democracy, not yours, the one they own, their democracy.
[00:08:46]  Sometimes they give it away that way.
[00:08:47]  And it's these little kind of hints.
[00:08:49]  But the range of the what democracy means, a lot of people don't realize it, is it's the will of the people.
[00:08:55]  But if you just conveniently, behind the scenes, redefine what the people mean, like the Chinese Communist Party did, and the people are the people who support the Chinese Communist Party.
[00:09:04]  And like the Soviets did, the people, the ones they represented, are the ones who support the Soviet regime.
[00:09:11]  Then what you arrive at is the people's democratic republic of, say, Korea or Canada now or whatever you want to call it.
[00:09:18]  You have the people's democracy.
[00:09:21]  The people's democracy is the democracy for the people who qualify as people.
[00:09:24]  And the people who qualify as people are the people who are in the regime or supported by the regime or support the regime.
[00:09:32]  And literally, you have Lenin in 1917 or 18, depends on the version, I guess.
[00:09:37]  He published a book called State and Revolution.
[00:09:40]  And he explains in the fifth chapter exactly this about the word democracy.
[00:09:44]  He says, what we think is democracy, what we have is actually bourgeois democracy.
[00:09:48]  It's this other kind of bad democracy for the rich people.
[00:09:52]  And so what we are instituting, listen to the contradiction, he says, with the dictatorship of the proletariat, with a dictatorship, we're implementing a better democracy.
[00:10:01]  And what does he say that this people's democracy does?
[00:10:05]  It elevates the voices of the true people and it suppresses the voices that we don't want to have heard.
[00:10:12]  And that's exactly the same program as our democracy today.
[00:10:15]  So what we see is we see simulated elections.
[00:10:18]  We see simulated democracy.
[00:10:20]  We see a mockery of what these things really mean.
[00:10:24]  And then we have good, honest, conservative people around the country saying, no, no, no, I'm going to preserve what elections mean.
[00:10:31]  I'm going to preserve what democracy means.
[00:10:34]  I'm going to preserve what our republic was based on.
[00:10:37]  And it has this unfortunate effect of turning you into a sucker.
[00:10:41]  So then we hear we're sitting on stage.
[00:10:43]  Well, do we play their game and validate its premises to win?
[00:10:46]  Or do we reject their game and lose?
[00:10:49]  And we're caught in the pincher of the kind of provocation that they've put forth.
[00:10:54]  So the only way to win is to break the game by one means or another, either by playing it, winning, and then destroying it, or by not playing it and destroying it from the outside one way or another by delegitimizing it.
[00:11:05]  And those are the only options that we have now.
[00:11:08]  Yeah.
[00:11:08]  And to cut, I mean, I hate the word democracy.
[00:11:11]  I've said it for a while.
[00:11:12]  We're not a democracy.
[00:11:13]  We're a republic.
[00:11:14]  It's one of the great word abuses of our time.
[00:11:17]  And there's actually, it's not just a word game.
[00:11:20]  Democracy was actually talked about unfavorably by every architect of the Constitution.
[00:11:25]  Madison, Hamilton, and Jay talked about how democracy is an awful, inevitably failing idea.
[00:11:30]  Plato talked about it at length as well.
[00:11:32]  And this is a thought crime.
[00:11:34]  You're not allowed to say it.
[00:11:34]  I say it on my radio show every day.
[00:11:36]  It drives the media nuts because it is a religious term to them, democracy.
[00:11:42]  You can't ever talk about how democracy is unsustainable.
[00:11:45]  It is.
[00:11:46]  Republics are not unsustainable.
[00:11:48]  Republics can last because republics are intentionally decentralized, have checks and balances.
[00:11:54]  They have a structure that understands human nature.
[00:11:57]  A democracy is basically whoever outnumbers the other person gets as much stuff as they wish, and they could take liberties away from the other person.
[00:12:05]  Okay.
[00:12:05]  A republic is a completely different structure of government.
[00:12:08]  Now, that's just me kind of playing, you know, word semantic games at some sense, but I think it's actually super important.
[00:12:15]  I think James would agree on that.
[00:12:16]  However, so these very same people that lecture us about democracy and that ran nonstop ads for people in Awatuka, Awatuke, South Mountain, Chandler, Mesa.
[00:12:25]  You guys saw the ads.
[00:12:26]  The very same people that did that came in with massive counter lawsuits to prevent voting hours to be extended when there were three to four hour voting limits.
[00:12:37]  As James said, they can compress the window immediately.
[00:12:41]  So they're lecturing about voting access all the time, right?
[00:12:45]  But the moment that all of a sudden white, older Christian conservative voters have to wait three and a half hours and anthem, surprise, Wickenburg, or Queen Creek, they close the polling stations.
[00:13:00]  Yeah, I mean, this is again, the goal here is when you hear democracy, and why one of the reasons democracy is unsustainable is we have this sort of, to invoke Plato, ideal, platonic ideal vision of what it is.
[00:13:11]  Oh, everybody gets to have their voice.
[00:13:13]  We're all going to vote.
[00:13:14]  And there are lots of reasons why that's its own problem.
[00:13:16]  But the game of democracy, where the sausage is really made, is a game of who gets to be enfranchised and who doesn't.
[00:13:22]  So if they can control who actually has the opportunity to vote, who's being enfranchised and disenfranchised from their own nation, that's what Lenin's point about the people was: is that we're going to suppress or disenfranchise the people whose votes we don't want to have count.
[00:13:38]  And so if they can rig the game, then they can control how all of the levers of power get used.
[00:13:43]  And that's ultimately how they hold this up as like a religious object because it sounds so good, it feels so good, and it means something that actually doesn't mean the ideal people have in their head.
[00:13:56]  You have a picture in your mind, they mean something distinctly different than that, and they can go back and forth kind of between those.
[00:14:03]  And it's at their advantage because you don't know they're doing it.
[00:14:06]  And one other thing is, you know, what do you hear all the time?
[00:14:09]  Elon Musk, dangerous to our democracy.
[00:14:11]  Charlie Kirk, dangerous to our democracy.
[00:14:13]  James Lindsay being on Twitter, dangerous to our democracy.
[00:14:16]  Everything in the world is dangerous to our democracy.
[00:14:18]  This is what's called a thought-terminating cliché out of the psychiatric literature analyzing what they did in totalitarian regimes like Maoist China.
[00:14:27]  A thought-terminating cliché.

=== Controlling the Election Frame (16:26) ===

[00:14:29]  It's a phrase that requires zero thought for somebody to say it.
[00:14:34]  And when you hear it, it scrambles your brain.
[00:14:37]  You don't know what to do.
[00:14:39]  You stop thinking, thought-terminating.
[00:14:41]  So they say, dangerous to our democracy.
[00:14:43]  You have an emotional reaction.
[00:14:45]  That's bad.
[00:14:46]  And whatever point anybody might have been making is gone.
[00:14:50]  Elon Musk, dangerous to our democracy.
[00:14:51]  Better not listen to that guy.
[00:14:53]  Don't even engage his argument.
[00:14:54]  Don't even engage what's happening.
[00:14:56]  That's what the purpose of these phrases are.
[00:14:59]  Rising LGBTQ hate.
[00:15:01]  Whoops, that's bad.
[00:15:02]  Better stop thinking.
[00:15:05]  That's what this is.
[00:15:06]  It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
[00:15:07]  Uh-oh, bad.
[00:15:08]  Stop thinking.
[00:15:10]  This is how these games work.
[00:15:12]  And this is how they actually are able to disenfranchise you, real true Americans from your own country.
[00:15:18]  Sorry to steal your line, Charlie.
[00:15:20]  You gave that one to me.
[00:15:21]  No, that's true.
[00:15:22]  I listen to you sometimes.
[00:15:23]  Sometimes.
[00:15:24]  Sometimes.
[00:15:24]  I just bragged on you, actually.
[00:15:26]  I was on his show the other day.
[00:15:27]  And in the commercial breaks, you have to listen to Charlie lecture.
[00:15:31]  That's true.
[00:15:32]  It's like he's got his own brainwashing program happening on if you're invited to his show in the commercial breaks.
[00:15:38]  So I'm listening to him lecture, and I'm actually engaged with what he's talking about.
[00:15:40]  It's really interesting.
[00:15:41]  I was on Allie Stuckey's show yesterday, and I mentioned this actually, where you were talking about how the Bible is a book of distinctions and how what we're seeing is this, you know, what they want to do is control when the distinctions matter and don't matter.
[00:15:54]  They want to have full operational control over that.
[00:15:56]  And this is, I bragged on you anyway for your clarity with the Bible being a book of description or distinctions because reality is a world of distinctions and comprehension is understanding distinctions.
[00:16:08]  And that's what they're trying to obliterate so that they get to control the frame, control the words, control the ideas, and thus control what happens in an election and thus change what elections are and control you.
[00:16:21]  My brainwashing worked with him.
[00:16:22]  So there you go.
[00:16:23]  So before you mentioned the word who is disenfranchised and who is, of course, has that oppression taken off of them in regards to whatever the case may be, or if that is actually something that is real or not real.
[00:16:36]  But is it a question of who, or are we moving past the who and the personal and even what we would understand as someone who is qualified to actually cast a vote?
[00:16:46]  And are we moving more towards understanding who has the most quote votes or ballots?
[00:16:50]  Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is elections are based in ballots.
[00:16:53]  Now, Charlie's dead on when he said a few minutes ago, and if you didn't catch it, you need to hone in on that, where he said it's who can put the most pieces of paper in a box within Arizona, a 30-day window?
[00:17:05]  Holy crap.
[00:17:06]  It should be like, you know, on election day, however many hour window, but nevertheless, it's that when you have shifted from elections, which are about gaining votes, to quote-unquote elections, which are about gaining ballots, and you have a very efficient, let's not underestimate our foes, very effective, well-oiled ballot collecting machine that knows where to go, where to very quickly, you know, canvas an apartment complex,
[00:17:36]  a nursing home, or whatever, and just pick up hundreds of those pieces of paper that are among the ones that are actually legitimate that are filled out in a particular way and stuck in a box, you have a very formidable thing.
[00:17:48]  So, what they do in advance of the election is build up a giant sandbag.
[00:17:51]  I understand here in Arizona, there's some weird counting thing.
[00:17:54]  So, then they, by law, that they, I think, put in, and so they find out what the deficit is on election day, and then they have the weird counting period where they find more ballots because ballots are what it's your vote is what casts a ballot, but votes don't matter if all they're counting is ballots.
[00:18:12]  And they separate the election from its essence in that way and turn it into an instrument of their control.
[00:18:18]  Yeah, and that was really well summarized.
[00:18:21]  And it's super depressing, isn't it?
[00:18:23]  Because that is not representative of a will of the people.
[00:18:27]  It's not the intent of the design.
[00:18:30]  And so, there's a here's what here, let's just take a step back.
[00:18:33]  And I've done a lot of thinking about this, especially last couple of weeks.
[00:18:36]  It really, Donald Trump really took them by surprise.
[00:18:39]  Like, I mean, I cannot emphasize that enough.
[00:18:42]  He was the glitch in the matrix, and his legacy is still, we're still living through the anger, the venom, the regret from the left that he ever got into office.
[00:18:53]  Everything you're experiencing is because he was able to sneak up on them in 16.
[00:18:58]  Remember a couple things in 16.
[00:19:00]  They called Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin on election night, all for Donald Trump.
[00:19:06]  That alone, they said, we're never doing that again.
[00:19:08]  If we have an unfavorable outcome, we're going to have to extend the window, right?
[00:19:13]  And so they met, Soros, and all of them met, and Lorene Powell Jobs and Mackenzie Bezos and Reed Hoffman and all of these secular billionaires on the left, they had a big, massive meeting.
[00:19:26]  And they debated, how did we let this happen?
[00:19:29]  And Soros' team won the debate.
[00:19:32]  Soros said it's because you did not focus on democracy.
[00:19:36]  And if you go look to the Open Society Foundation, go back to their annual reports, right, in 2002, and I'm kind of stealing some of Michael's thunder here, but go back 20 years ago, Soros realized that that word was the word that would allow you to have a seat at the table in rooms you otherwise would not, because it's a universalist term, right?
[00:19:55]  It's agreeable.
[00:19:55]  You're not talking about liberal or conservative.
[00:19:57]  You're talking about the things that bring us all together.
[00:20:00]  And so Soros said, look, if we're going to be successful, we are going to have to focus on being the pushers of democracy.
[00:20:08]  And democracy, we're going to say it's under voting rights.
[00:20:10]  We're going to say it's under access.
[00:20:12]  But in reality, it's going to be a community, a Chicago-style community organizing game of chasing ballots using sophisticated technology and putting them in a box while running nonstop ads so we don't get clobbered with older voters or suburban voters.
[00:20:28]  Just a little like two points better here or there so that we can win on the margins.
[00:20:32]  Okay.
[00:20:32]  So then you got to fast forward to 2018.
[00:20:35]  Who was their really weird hero that they just poured money into?
[00:20:40]  Stacey Abrams.
[00:20:41]  Why?
[00:20:41]  All she talked about was voting rights.
[00:20:43]  That was her obsession.
[00:20:45]  And this is why James's work with critical race theory, it all intersects.
[00:20:50]  And that's a very important word on the left, right?
[00:20:52]  How were they able to get this done?
[00:20:55]  Two things, race and COVID.
[00:20:59]  So race, well, black people need to be able to have a 30-day window to vote.
[00:21:03]  So you got to send them all ballots.
[00:21:04]  Stacey Abrams sued.
[00:21:06]  Stacey Abrams sued.
[00:21:07]  Who is her representative of those lawsuits?
[00:21:09]  Mark Elias from Perkins Cooey.
[00:21:12]  Who's Mark Elias?
[00:21:13]  The original architect of the Russian dossier.
[00:21:15]  He's now the number one most funded person on the left.
[00:21:18]  Remember, this is all because Donald Trump snuck up on them in 16.
[00:21:22]  They thought their pre-existing infrastructure was impenetrable, and this guy shocked the world.
[00:21:26]  And basically, they said to themselves, never again.
[00:21:28]  We don't care the cost.
[00:21:29]  We don't care the unethical nature.
[00:21:31]  We're never going to let this happen again.
[00:21:33]  Because he really threw a boomerang into all, I mean, from Amy Coney Barrett to Kavanaugh to Gorsuch to embassy to Jerusalem to Southern Border.
[00:21:42]  It's just a lot of stuff that they're still working to basically move back.
[00:21:47]  I can't state that enough.
[00:21:48]  So anyway, without going too deep into this, but I think it's interesting, they changed their whole game where they realized candidate quality doesn't matter.
[00:21:56]  Okay.
[00:21:56]  It doesn't matter if it's, you know, kind of some bumbling idiot, John Fetterman, Katie Hobbs, Joe Biden as an example, right?
[00:22:03]  We're going to perfect the game.
[00:22:06]  And the game will be called democracy.
[00:22:07]  And then by coincidence, of course, right?
[00:22:09]  The Washington Post then became democracy dies in darkness at the top of every single Washington funded by Jeff Bezos, right?
[00:22:18]  And so they started to play the game of democracy.
[00:22:20]  And then COVID happened and it just allowed them to go absolutely nuts.
[00:22:25]  And by nuts, everyone gets a mail-in ballot.
[00:22:27]  We're going to relax signature verification, no longer have to vote in person.
[00:22:31]  And unfortunately, too many Republicans allowed it to happen.
[00:22:34]  So we are now living in the extension of what really is a six-year simulation, but it's longer than that.
[00:22:40]  And Soros knew what he was doing.
[00:22:42]  You know, Soros spent $200 million on just on documented money this cycle.
[00:22:48]  $200 million is what he just spent on political money, not to mention Sam Bankman Freed's $40 million of stolen money from FTX he spent on this.
[00:22:58]  By the way, you want to talk about a synthetic thing?
[00:22:59]  He just steals money from people's crypto deposits to go spend on the midterms and hopes he gets away with it.
[00:23:06]  So there's a way to actually defeat this and to unravel this.
[00:23:10]  But James Lindsay said something very beautiful at our pastor summit.
[00:23:14]  So you were exchanging compliments here.
[00:23:16]  He said, it's an old proverb, you cannot fix that which you do not understand.
[00:23:21]  And so I, and if you think you understand it, you probably don't because it goes deeper and it's more complex.
[00:23:29]  But once we as a movement can really, in my personal opinion, the next couple months, understand all the pieces, then I think that we could proceed to actually fixing it.
[00:23:38]  So it was just in November of 2016 that just two weeks later, after the election, that had not gone well for the Democrats, that they had the Democracy Alliance meeting at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel in Washington, D.C., of which I had a little bird in the room.
[00:23:55]  And that's where basically 2020 was planned out and how the next four years would go.
[00:24:00]  But one of the things that thankfully all of us participated in in wrecking their game was, yes, the use of ideological weapons such as critical race theory and so forth, which nobody knew what they were at the time.
[00:24:11]  But I want to ask this, and I have my understanding of things, but from Charlie's perspective, and then of course from Jane's, why would, and it's not just a question of the Democratic Party.
[00:24:25]  It's also a question of Republicans as well.
[00:24:28]  You, I think I kind of made fun of your governor the last time I was here, that his name kind of reminds, well, it's similar to something that would be a bodily function.
[00:24:38]  But you have your Republican governor here.
[00:24:41]  You have Republicans all over the nation.
[00:24:43]  You have Republicans in Congress.
[00:24:44]  You have Republicans in the Senate that as well are participating with what the Democrats want.
[00:24:51]  You have as well corporate and media sources that are participating.
[00:24:55]  Then you have what used to be known as conservative Christian or conservative religious bodies who are participating to try to hedge things a certain way.
[00:25:05]  And the question that all of you have to ask yourselves, and then I'm going to ask these gentlemen, is why are all of these different pillars of our civilization, different facets of what makes us the United States, why are they all coalescing to make sure that the wrong Republicans don't get in and they're willing to do anything to make sure that that happens?
[00:25:28]  What is it that they're actually working for?
[00:25:31]  I mean, we could start.
[00:25:32]  There's a bajillion things we could say.
[00:25:34]  I mean, what they're working for, we just heard about in Andy's lecture, which is very obviously Ziegret Rieset, which he mispronounced by not saying it in German.
[00:25:43]  Zekeret Rieset for a better future, of course.
[00:25:48]  You have to get very stressed out.
[00:25:53]  And actually, by the way, by the way, and I do want to actually answer the question if I remember it after I do this aside.
[00:25:59]  That's actually very important.
[00:26:01]  I just read a story about Maoist China and where one of the ways that they were able to, and I don't quite understand it because it was written, so I don't know what the phonetics were, but they were mocking this idea of the people.
[00:26:13]  And they came up with two pronunciations of people.
[00:26:16]  And it would be something like people and people or something, I don't know, something.
[00:26:20]  But they came up with a mocking way to say what the government was saying.
[00:26:24]  And that actually broke the spell for lots of people.
[00:26:27]  That kind of mockery actually works.
[00:26:30]  And it reveals the fact that the word's being misused.
[00:26:34]  Like you often, we made fun of Kamala for a while.
[00:26:37]  Freedom.
[00:26:38]  We made fun of that because she said their little story.
[00:26:41]  That stuff works.
[00:26:42]  And so breaking that kind of spell is actually very, very, very important.
[00:26:47]  And now I did forget the question.
[00:26:48]  So we'll let...
[00:26:50]  Oh, the Republicans.
[00:26:51]  Yeah.
[00:26:51]  What about the Republicans?
[00:26:53]  We all say rhino, right?
[00:26:54]  Rhinos, it's the rhinos.
[00:26:57]  No, they're active participants.
[00:26:59]  They're not rhinos.
[00:27:00]  They're not Republicans or just dudes that don't know what's going on.
[00:27:03]  They are not only active participants, they are the central and core participants.
[00:27:09]  Barack Obama passes Obamacare in 2009 or whichever year it was, eight.
[00:27:13]  You know, you guys can correct my history by a year.
[00:27:16]  It was nine.
[00:27:17]  So he passes Obamacare.
[00:27:19]  When did Obamacare become reified in our country when we gave Donald Trump a mandate to get rid of it and Mitch McConnell was like, we tried.
[00:27:29]  Right.
[00:27:29]  When we said, you know what, the people have spoken.
[00:27:32]  You were in power.
[00:27:33]  This is how the American system works.
[00:27:35]  Barack Obama, you were in power.
[00:27:36]  You had the Congress.
[00:27:38]  You made this thing happen.
[00:27:39]  And then the new group came in.
[00:27:43]  And instead of saying, you know what?
[00:27:46]  No, that was a bad idea.
[00:27:48]  We walk it back.
[00:27:49]  They ratified it.
[00:27:50]  So the active players on the Republican side are actually the ones who make real the provocations.
[00:27:58]  by the Democrat side.
[00:28:00]  And that must be understood.
[00:28:02]  And so they're terrified that actually freedom-loving, awake, conscious people are going to be able to step into the positions of power.
[00:28:09]  They're going to be able to call out these games.
[00:28:11]  They're going to be able to break these spells.
[00:28:13]  They're going to get on the floor of Congress and make fun of this, like Lauren Boebert was pretty famous for.
[00:28:19]  And what did they do to her in her place in Colorado?
[00:28:22]  Man, I'm just, it's delicious how they went on Twitter and mocked her and danced on her grave when they were sure she lost.
[00:28:29]  And then, oops, whoops, that didn't happen.
[00:28:33]  And so that was a little bit of fun there.
[00:28:35]  But the truth is she did stuff like that.
[00:28:37]  They hate her for it.
[00:28:40]  Whatever you think of her otherwise, that's powerful.
[00:28:43]  And they can't stand to let the wrong kind of people get in because there's a game that they're playing.
[00:28:48]  They're in on the game.
[00:28:49]  They are not in on the game like they're going along with it.
[00:28:52]  They are active participants.
[00:28:54]  So the other thing I was going to start with is if you go back to the communist literature, or actually not the communist literature, if you go back to the House Committee on Un-American Activities, which no, that's a Senate.
[00:29:04]  McCarthy's a Senate.
[00:29:05]  No, no, no, it's different.
[00:29:06]  You go back, they're buddies, but if you go back to the House Committee on American Activities in the 50s, they did a bunch of lecture or a bunch of interviews with disaffected leaders from the Communist Party USA, including one, Dr. Bella Dodd.
[00:29:19]  And Dr. Bella Dodd explained a number of things.
[00:29:22]  We've colonized all the good sounding words, you know, da-da-da-da-da.
[00:29:25]  Here's what we call people.
[00:29:26]  We say that they're fascists, so we're the true anti-fascist.
[00:29:29]  And she confesses all of this kind of stuff.
[00:29:32]  But what she also says is we have infiltrators in every party.
[00:29:37]  We have infiltrators in the businesses.
[00:29:39]  We have infiltrators in the Democratic Party.
[00:29:41]  We have infiltrators in the Republican Party.
[00:29:43]  And so when we say rhino, it doesn't catch the scope of the problem.
[00:29:48]  They aren't just rhinos.
[00:29:51]  They aren't just clueless, feckless, good old boys who got into office, which is what they play on their million-dollar TV ads.
[00:30:00]  They are active participants who understand what they're doing and are on the same team as their bipartisan buddies across the aisle who are doing the same game for the same purposes.
[00:30:13]  Yeah, so to expand on that, there's a couple things that I want to talk about when it comes to Republicans and this election.
[00:30:21]  So in a usual world without being outspent the way we were, the Republicans have traditionally been politically successful because we're able to look like the reasonable ones and the Democrats look like the outrageous ones.
[00:30:36]  The incredible mind trick that they were able to do through the media, through social media, and tons of money on television is that our candidates looked like the unreasonable, wacky ones, and they looked like the reasonable ones when it should have been completely inverted, right?
[00:30:52]  And so they actually looked like the more conservative pick.

=== Theater Combat in Politics (04:34) ===

[00:30:56]  I know that not conservative philosophically, but Katie Hobbs presented herself as the safer pick, like boring, I'm not going to, and they went out of their way to make Carrie Lake seem as if she's outrageous, all the things that she isn't, correct?
[00:31:12]  And that worked.
[00:31:13]  Now, if the voting machines hadn't gone down, I don't think it would have worked, right?
[00:31:16]  But that was part of the plan.
[00:31:18]  They needed to make it close enough.
[00:31:20]  So where does that leave us?
[00:31:22]  We have to understand when we're dealing with Republicans and Republican leaders, there is this yearning to get out of the theater of combat.
[00:31:35]  People are saying, and I hear it all the time, I'm exhausted, I'm fatigued, I'm done.
[00:31:42]  And you probably are, and that means they're going to win 100%.
[00:31:47]  Can I go give those people like a thousand-year stare at some point?
[00:31:51]  You're tired, really?
[00:31:53]  Okay.
[00:31:53]  Yeah, no, I hear it all the time, right?
[00:31:54]  And so I'll tell you two things I've learned in the last week with our national program, and I've learned a lot.
[00:31:59]  The first of which is how fatigued our people are, and that is by design, right?
[00:32:04]  They are going to try to just outlast us and invoke our surrender, okay?
[00:32:09]  And the Republican leaders that are in charge, when I talk to them privately that are more in the vanilla side, because I still have some relationships, less and less, honestly, because of my public commentary.
[00:32:21]  But I ask them and they say, Charlie, I just want to get back to governing.
[00:32:26]  I'm sick and tired of all of this stuff and cultural Marxists at every corner.
[00:32:30]  I want to get back to the legislative process.
[00:32:33]  And so they have a desire for a country that is dead.
[00:32:37]  Like we are in a theater of combat with the American left and there is a single winner.
[00:32:42]  There is no like winner after an election.
[00:32:44]  It's going to be the rest of your life that you have breath in your lungs.
[00:32:47]  You don't like it, then you're lying to yourself.
[00:32:50]  Right, right.
[00:32:51]  And people don't like it.
[00:32:52]  Well, Charlie, what do you mean we're not going to defeat the left?
[00:32:54]  Yeah, it's going to take 70, 80, 90, 100 years, maybe.
[00:32:59]  It's not going to, like, that's it, minimum.
[00:33:01]  And people don't like it.
[00:33:02]  They're like, well, that doesn't sound very good.
[00:33:04]  Well, then I would be lying to you.
[00:33:06]  The second thing I want to say is this, is that so many of these leaders are conflict averse.
[00:33:12]  They just don't like controversy.
[00:33:14]  They don't want to acknowledge and admit the country is captured and taken over.
[00:33:18]  And so they have programmed a prism of which they view everything where they're like, yeah, you know, there's a three-hour wait for voting and anthem.
[00:33:25]  And we lost the governor's race, the attorney general's race, the secretary of state race, and the senate race.
[00:33:31]  But you guys know that we might lower the corporate tax rate in Arizona by 0.25%.
[00:33:36]  And the Chamber of Commerce just gave me an award.
[00:33:40]  And they actually believe it.
[00:33:42]  They really do.
[00:33:44]  And this is why Aristotle was so right, where he said everyone thinks they're doing good.
[00:33:49]  The question is what is actually good?
[00:33:52]  And so these Republicans deep down, they don't think they're doing evil, but they are actively acting in a way that is complicit with the other side.
[00:34:01]  You could call it cowardice.
[00:34:02]  You could call it conflict diverse.
[00:34:04]  You could call it all these different things.
[00:34:05]  But this is why you guys matter so much, is that we do not have the luxury, because we've been enlightened, to give up the fight while we're in the arena.
[00:34:13]  There will be no easy victory.
[00:34:15]  It will be multi-generational, and there will only be one winner.
[00:34:19]  I would want to just kind of give a couple of different thoughts that maybe everybody can consider.
[00:34:28]  Number one, I think in a lot of ways, and I've been tempted to do this podcast, but I've held back for about a year because I just have had so many podcasts removed for things that I've said.
[00:34:39]  And as you know, I'm kind of dry and sciencey.
[00:34:42]  But consider that we're in Vichy America right now.
[00:34:48]  And the second thing would be that while in our normal sense of where we are right now, that it would take 70 to 90 years, in truth, there's another hourglass.
[00:35:06]  And the sands in the hourglass are few.
[00:35:09]  And really we have about seven and a half years because when we talk about net zero and zero this and zero that, zero deaths by automobile accidents, which Pete Butiginch has said, you know, whose father was basically the interpreter of cultural Marxism from Gramsci's works and so forth.

=== Men Must Step Up Now (03:15) ===

[00:35:30]  But when he says these things, everything is zero, It's because 2030 is year zero.
[00:35:39]  That's what it is.
[00:35:41]  We are in this reset, but we're resetting to 2030.
[00:35:46]  Once we're at 2030, the ratchet has gone so far, you can't pull it back.
[00:35:51]  So in essence, where we would like to think it's a marathon or a long war, oh, it's right now.
[00:35:58]  And I want to challenge, and I've done this many times.
[00:36:01]  I think I even did this at one of Charlie's conferences.
[00:36:04]  When you think about the Republicans that you can count on, right?
[00:36:08]  You think of Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the candidate that I was advising, who is Anna Paulina Luna.
[00:36:16]  She's excellent.
[00:36:17]  And, you know, so you were just with her, I think, over at Maria.
[00:36:20]  She's a turning point grad.
[00:36:22]  We're so thankful for her.
[00:36:23]  And so we're talking about women here.
[00:36:27]  Men?
[00:36:30]  No, listen to me.
[00:36:32]  You're letting the women, or you're making the women, have to stand up and do your job.
[00:36:38]  And I mean it.
[00:36:39]  I know we got a small group here right now.
[00:36:42]  This is your moment.
[00:36:45]  This is your moment to stand up and be men the way that God has made you to be.
[00:36:52]  We need to have men running for office.
[00:36:54]  We need to have men that are supporting the candidates.
[00:36:57]  We need to have men who are stepping up and being men in those situations to save this nation.
[00:37:07]  And the ones that you'll see applauding right now are the women.
[00:37:13]  And I'm sorry, men, if this convicts you in some way or you think, oh, come on, Mike, you know, it's that football game tonight.
[00:37:19]  You know, or you LARP in a video game or something.
[00:37:22]  Don't you know, Mike, I'm really highly rated in Call of Duty.
[00:37:26]  You know, let's get rid of that.
[00:37:28]  Let's get into real life.
[00:37:29]  I don't think Charlie has time for that kind of thing.
[00:37:32]  I don't think James Lindsey has time for that sort of thing because they understand what's happening right now.
[00:37:39]  There is no other time.
[00:37:41]  I mean, seriously, you just heard Andy's presentation.
[00:37:45]  I know we have a small group in the afternoon right now.
[00:37:46]  We're going to have a larger group this evening.
[00:37:48]  But what you just saw should convict you that something must be done and it must be done now.
[00:37:55]  So I think that's right.
[00:37:56]  I mean, the next seven years will determine the whole ballgame.
[00:37:58]  And so don't misunderstand me is that to get back to the America we like, they're not just going to disappear.
[00:38:03]  There's too much funding, too much energy.
[00:38:05]  And I believe that, you know, victory can happen in spurts and start to see real momentum.
[00:38:11]  And so, but you look, you're exactly right in this.
[00:38:13]  I mean, I talk openly about the absolute crusade on the American male.
[00:38:18]  And people think I just mean young men.
[00:38:20]  No, no, it's all men.
[00:38:22]  I mean, it's top to bottom of how men have been hyper-feminized from mass media to the archetype of if you think of an average white upper middle class, just to say middle class white male, you think someone that is overweight, stupid, constantly forgetting things, kind of absent-minded, sitting and watching TV.

=== How Media Destabilizes Identity (07:07) ===

[00:38:46]  That has been propagandized, mind-controlled into your brain via Simpsons, Family Guy, Modern Family, all these different psychological operations where in the 1950s and 60s, Leave It to Beaver, all these others were men that wore suits that were in charge of the family that acted in a hero archetype of leading the family, not just kind of sitting around and just like jovily forgetting things here and there.
[00:39:14]  So I completely agree, and the left knows what they're doing.
[00:39:18]  I mean, testosterone rates are down 75% the last 20 years.
[00:39:22]  The average young man right now has a fraction of the testosterone of his grandfather.
[00:39:28]  That's all intentional.
[00:39:29]  It's intentional by, I think, way too much time on cell phones.
[00:39:34]  Radiation is probably playing a role in this that no one wants to talk about.
[00:39:37]  Diets are terrible.
[00:39:38]  This meatless thing is a total disaster.
[00:39:41]  Young men don't work out with weights anymore the way they used to.
[00:39:44]  And we wonder why all of a sudden, you know, so many, we have the gayest generation in history.
[00:39:48]  I know it's controversial to say, I don't care, but we do.
[00:39:51]  One out of four young people identify as gay.
[00:39:54]  That's not sustainable.
[00:39:55]  It just isn't.
[00:39:56]  The species cannot continue.
[00:39:58]  Sorry.
[00:39:59]  It's just good luck trying to figure that one out.
[00:40:02]  And by the way, this is one of the reasons why queer theory is not an innocent thing.
[00:40:08]  It actually has special, like actual implications of your species.
[00:40:13]  And James is more articulate than I am on that topic.
[00:40:16]  James said in your event in Phoenix last year, what did you say that queer theory was when you were talking to Charlie?
[00:40:22]  One of my favorite things ever.
[00:40:23]  Yeah, queer theory opens the gates to hell is what I think I said.
[00:40:28]  I may have also said that it came from the mind of Satan or something like this.
[00:40:31]  There's any number of similar things that I would have said.
[00:40:35]  Queer theory is really, I mean, so this is a really funny thing.
[00:40:38]  We're all like critical race theory, critical, finally, people have stopped inviting me.
[00:40:41]  James, those are critical race theory go.
[00:40:43]  Let's talk about like, damn it.
[00:40:45]  I do other stuff.
[00:40:48]  In literally in January of 2021, so think about that for a minute.
[00:40:54]  That's 23 months ago.
[00:40:56]  That's almost two years ago.
[00:40:57]  I was invited to a conference to give a speech.
[00:40:59]  And the first thing I said is, everybody here is talking about critical race theory.
[00:41:02]  And I'm here to tell you it's no more than 5% of our problem now.
[00:41:06]  And what it was being used, what the thrust of my speech was, is what it's being used to do is set up queer theory.
[00:41:12]  At the time, I didn't know that apparently a lot of the money that was raked in by Black Lives Matter quite illegitimately was being funneled into the projects to forward queer theory projects in the next step of the program.
[00:41:22]  So it was quite literal in the kind of operational sense.
[00:41:25]  But what I did know is that by demonizing people for the color of their skin, which they can't do anything about, you're setting them up to try to find a pathway out of that stress.
[00:41:35]  And the way that you can find a pathway to that stress is, oh, guess what?
[00:41:38]  Yeah, yeah, you were born with a biological sex.
[00:41:41]  We're not going to pay attention to that.
[00:41:42]  It was assigned by a doctor and blah, blah, blah.
[00:41:45]  As a matter of fact, though, there's this other thing that really says who you are called gender identity.
[00:41:50]  And guess what?
[00:41:50]  You can make it up every other hour.
[00:41:52]  It's totally in your head.
[00:41:54]  You can do whatever you want with it.
[00:41:55]  So you offer a pathway.
[00:41:57]  And you can see this.
[00:41:59]  You see the articles that they wrote, the long history of tomboys being racist.
[00:42:03]  So you have these young girls, 12 years old, struggling with puberty, which is not a pleasant process for girls.
[00:42:08]  Lots of identity questions, lots of weird changes, people looking at them differently.
[00:42:12]  Everything's bad.
[00:42:14]  When you're a teenager, you turn 12 and life is bad in virtually every regard.
[00:42:20]  And they're pumping them full of, oh, well, you like to play softball.
[00:42:23]  You like to play soccer.
[00:42:25]  Guess what?
[00:42:26]  You're probably this thing called Tomboy, but Tomboys are racist.
[00:42:29]  And, you know, like all white people are racist by systemic racism.
[00:42:33]  And so they're like, oh, well, I can't be a tomboy.
[00:42:35]  I guess I could be, they're uncomfortable.
[00:42:37]  And so they're like, I'm non-binary.
[00:42:39]  What's the next article?
[00:42:40]  Non-binary upholds binaries, which is racist.
[00:42:43]  So you're still racist by being non-binary.
[00:42:45]  And they push and push and push and push and tip you into until you finally commit to being full-on trans, at which point they can put you into a pipeline that does irreversible psychological and physiological harm to you.
[00:43:00]  This, well, I saw this, you know, over to you.
[00:43:02]  I was talking to Mike back in 2020, even before I think George Floyd.
[00:43:06]  I was like, it was, no, 2019 we were talking.
[00:43:08]  I was like, I'm going to focus on critical race theory first, which is how I got stuck with the brand, because if they go into queer theory, they're going to shoot themselves.
[00:43:17]  It's just absolutely insane, and people will see it.
[00:43:20]  But then there was this obvious, you know, thought, this is the progression.
[00:43:24]  And critical race theory, I was calling it, do you remember?
[00:43:26]  I gave those talks early in 2020, even saying this is the lockpick to open civilization to the next stages of the program.
[00:43:34]  And queer theory is meant to destabilize your mind.
[00:43:38]  It's meant to destabilize your sense of identity that all makes you very vulnerable, very moldable.
[00:43:44]  If you, we all think, we all have heard of shell shock, which you're not allowed to say anymore, George Carlin told us you have to call it post-traumatic stress disorder, eight syllables in a hyphen.
[00:43:52]  That was his joke or whatever it was.
[00:43:54]  I didn't count the syllables, so it was maybe one of his other jokes where it was that many.
[00:43:58]  But that actually was studied extensively following World War I at the Tavistock Institute, which we drove right past.
[00:44:05]  It just got wrecked on taking up with queer theory and the trans thing.
[00:44:09]  If you don't know, if you've heard that for the first time in your life, they were studying what's called trauma-based mind control after they realized what was going on with these soldiers.
[00:44:17]  That the trauma, the shell shock that they endured made them vulnerable, helpless, mind of a child.
[00:44:23]  And so that if you can induce enough trauma, trauma-centered care, trauma-centered attention, trauma, trauma, trauma, you hear it all the time, then you can actually induce a almost hypnotic state in somebody.
[00:44:33]  And it's not quite the right word, but a very suggestible state, a very vulnerable state, very childlike state in somebody.
[00:44:39]  And then you can do mind control on them.
[00:44:41]  And this had developed and developed and developed.
[00:44:43]  And it finally, the thing that sprung the trap on them and got them in trouble for it was they were doing it with trans.
[00:44:49]  But this is exactly, it destabilizes you, your sense of identity.
[00:44:52]  It's psychological trauma for you to get dragged into queer theory to break down solid categories of identity, especially your sexual identity, which at 12, 13 years old starts to matter a lot, whereas like literally yesterday it was gross.
[00:45:07]  And then it destabilizes families.
[00:45:10]  It destabilizes faith.
[00:45:11]  It destabilizes culture.
[00:45:13]  It destabilizes literally everything they need to break.
[00:45:16]  In fact, it's so powerful at doing so that the Soviets and the Maoists in China experimented with it and were like, nope, too powerful.
[00:45:23]  Back off.
[00:45:25]  And they're pumping this into the schools with literally to the point where you have, you know, they have drag queens in schools presented as a generative opportunity to learn to live queerly and enter alternate modes of kinships.
[00:45:37]  That's their words for it.
[00:45:39]  And you have these kind of controversy averse Republicans saying, well, the drag queens are kind of fun.
[00:45:46]  Yeah, and I have to say, one of the shining lights are like, thank God, is that Horn won the public instruction race over Hoffman.

=== Toxic Masculinity and Femininity (12:35) ===

[00:45:53]  That's a very important thing.
[00:45:55]  It is.
[00:45:56]  It was barely, though.
[00:45:58]  Oh, my goodness.
[00:45:59]  Hoffman would have brought all this stuff.
[00:46:02]  I mean, total pro LGBT alphabet mafia, the whole deal.
[00:46:07]  So if I may, to bring it back to what you were saying about the men, though.
[00:46:11]  Hi, men.
[00:46:12]  You're still here.
[00:46:13]  Good to see you.
[00:46:14]  So it turns out that in a lot of cases, there are actually case studies where when men start getting involved as mentors to young people, the rates of this crap all go down.
[00:46:27]  Things stabilize very, very quickly.
[00:46:29]  Dads volunteering to be involved with student groups at schools or to deal with help at the schools, getting dads or coaches or whatever involved.
[00:46:38]  And of course, what have they done?
[00:46:40]  Systematically brought up.
[00:46:42]  And yes, it's good.
[00:46:44]  I'm not saying that we shouldn't put in prison every single creeper, but they've made sure there are tons of creepers that they can point to.
[00:46:50]  So the Boy Scouts, creeper problem, the churches, creeper problems, youth pastor, creeper problems.
[00:46:56]  You know, they're burning, they're creating this fear in men to get involved, healthy, normal men, to get involved and act as mentors to young people because it's a very stabilizing force.
[00:47:07]  It's a very different energy than the nurturing feminine that's also very healthy in its own other way.
[00:47:13]  But they've systematically made it highly risky.
[00:47:17]  I don't know if I want to volunteer with a youth organization.
[00:47:19]  People might think thoughts about me.
[00:47:21]  And that's actually super important.
[00:47:23]  So taking that space back by banding together and becoming good guys.
[00:47:27]  And if something comes up, making sure you deal with it, you're the ones who call the police on the guy that causes a problem.
[00:47:33]  No, we're not doing that here.
[00:47:34]  And don't let them control that.
[00:47:36]  For me, these are very important things to bring back.
[00:47:38]  Men do need to get back involved.
[00:47:41]  It's so, so important.
[00:47:42]  It's so, so important.
[00:47:43]  Yeah, so just two thoughts on that.
[00:47:46]  Number one, it's important to have female influences on a developing teenager, but too much female influence from a motherly perspective is a very bad thing.
[00:47:58]  And I get in a lot of trouble when I say this.
[00:48:00]  I don't care because I'm not running for political office.
[00:48:03]  This is why I believe man and woman marriages are so critical.
[00:48:06]  If it's too feminine when a child is a teenager, you are, I'm generalizing, but generally the female will play into the sympathy of whatever is going on at that particular moment, okay?
[00:48:18]  And it's the male to come in and say, no, no, no, knock it off.
[00:48:22]  You're not a man.
[00:48:23]  You're not a woman.
[00:48:25]  And the balance of those two things keeps society afloat.
[00:48:28]  If you go look at lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit, and this is a generalization, but I don't care.
[00:48:35]  You want to see the people that are actually driving the children to have their parts chopped off.
[00:48:39]  It is 99% mothers.
[00:48:43]  99%.
[00:48:45]  No, I'm just being honest.
[00:48:46]  Every lawsuit over custody of a trans kid, the father is the one trying, almost always, there's exceptions, the father is the one that thinks the mom has lost their mind.
[00:48:58]  No, I'm just, and again, these are generalizations.
[00:49:00]  I don't mean to insult anybody, okay?
[00:49:02]  But it's the truth, is that the feminine and the masculine must balance each other out always.
[00:49:08]  Now, we have heard nothing, right, our whole life about the excesses of masculinity, right?
[00:49:14]  They call it toxic masculinity.
[00:49:16]  Too aggressive, too in your face, unable to control oneself.
[00:49:20]  Have we ever heard about toxic femininity?
[00:49:23]  No.
[00:49:23]  You get in big trouble if you bring it up.
[00:49:25]  Well, I do.
[00:49:25]  I don't care.
[00:49:26]  We all know it exists.
[00:49:27]  No, but of course it exists.
[00:49:29]  We all know.
[00:49:32]  No, and I'm going to get, I'm going to leak this to media matters, but toxic femininity means you are hyper-emotional, you are largely unstable, and you also are, and unfortunately, when evil presents itself, you yield towards trying to appease the evil.
[00:49:51]  Now, if you're offended by that categorization, I'm sorry.
[00:49:54]  It's just the truth, okay?
[00:49:56]  Now, we know what masculine is.
[00:49:59]  Okay, the masculine would be too aggressive, too in your face, but when they're balanced, you create good people.
[00:50:06]  And that's the most important question for a civilization.
[00:50:09]  Now, I'll give you another example, right?
[00:50:10]  Our whole life, We've been told about the dangers of religious extremism.
[00:50:18]  Have we ever heard about the dangers of secular extremism?
[00:50:21]  No.
[00:50:22]  So we only hear about the extreme portions, which are legitimate on the scale of extreme masculinity and extreme religiosity.
[00:50:30]  Instead, we're living through extreme secularism and extreme femininity.
[00:50:36]  And because hierarchies just don't disappear and evaporate when you want them to, you actually are going to get a much more dangerous dictator in that kind of a country than even, I think, on the inverse.
[00:50:49]  And so James mentioned something.
[00:50:51]  That's why I think the Bible, I mean, obviously the Bible is the word of God, but it's such an important thing to teach our children, is that the Bible is so clear about the moral need for distinctions.
[00:51:03]  And God was clear about it from the creation of the world, light and dark, night and day, good and evil, man and woman, creation.
[00:51:13]  If you look at distinctions, I believe distinctions are God's fingerprints throughout humanity or throughout creation.
[00:51:22]  You could see it.
[00:51:23]  Everything the left is trying to do is trying to destroy any semblance of a distinction.
[00:51:30]  And you will then go to moral chaos.
[00:51:34]  And the trans movement is a very specific, well-tailored, and James knows the literature better than I do, way of obliterating any semblance of a dimension of distinction.
[00:51:47]  In fact, they have psychologically manipulated us to a way to believe that distinctions are hate speech.
[00:51:58]  That you are hateful if you believe in distinctions.
[00:52:01]  I'll tell you about the literature if you want.
[00:52:03]  Please.
[00:52:03]  Just a second.
[00:52:04]  You know, there's a concept.
[00:52:06]  It was not written down by Judith Butler.
[00:52:09]  She's kind of the most famous queer theorist.
[00:52:12]  It was not written down by Judith Butler, but it is from people who were studying directly under her, so much so that it's typically attributed to Judith Butler.
[00:52:20]  And it's actually one of the chief sins of queer theory.
[00:52:23]  It's what the children who are non-binary or think that they were born in the wrong body or whatever are being taught is going on.
[00:52:30]  It is called, I kid you not, this is a technical term in queer theory, the violence of categorization.
[00:52:36]  To categorize, to draw a distinction is to do a violence to the people who are being categorized.
[00:52:43]  That's actually literally what they have.
[00:52:45]  Now, when we go back to toxic masculinity and femininity, I don't want to dwell on it and bring it back up, but I want to actually raise a brilliant point that Jordan Peterson raised, which is he was having this dialogue at some point.
[00:52:55]  I'm sure he got dragged for this all over the place.
[00:52:58]  But what he said is, just like Charlie said, we know all about this toxic masculine character.
[00:53:04]  We know what it looks like when masculinity goes too far.
[00:53:06]  Physical violence, aggression, we know these things.
[00:53:10]  We actually, if you, all through history, you know, the nobility or the people who don't act like that, they don't fly off the handle and start punching people when somebody insults them or whatever, unless they're Sam Houston and beat them with a stick.
[00:53:20]  But that's another time, a different story.
[00:53:23]  What Jordan Peterson said is we're in the age of the internet.
[00:53:27]  We have to realize that we're in the age of the internet.
[00:53:29]  What he said is masculine aggression doesn't upload.
[00:53:34]  What are you going to do?
[00:53:35]  F you.
[00:53:36]  Like that's what you say back in masculine aggression online.
[00:53:39]  Oh yeah, your mom.
[00:53:40]  You know, I know all about that joke.
[00:53:42]  Your mom does too.
[00:53:44]  And so these are the kinds of masculine aggression.
[00:53:47]  They don't upload very well.
[00:53:48]  Oh yeah, F you, F you too.
[00:53:50]  Okay, see you.
[00:53:51]  You know, nothing happens.
[00:53:53]  Toxic femininity, Jordan pointed out, Jordan Peterson pointed out, uploads perfectly.
[00:53:58]  It is social aggression.
[00:54:00]  In fact, it's social poison.
[00:54:02]  It's mean girls.
[00:54:03]  It's mean girls.
[00:54:04]  It uploads perfectly.
[00:54:06]  And what he didn't add to this, and I always hasten to add this, another thing that uploads perfectly within the realm of aggression is personality disordered or psychopathic aggression.
[00:54:16]  They can pretend to be a guy with a dog avatar and ruin your life online.
[00:54:20]  They can have 50 different accounts with 50 different identities.
[00:54:24]  Do you ever think about having 50 accounts on social media?
[00:54:26]  No, they do.
[00:54:27]  They brag about it.
[00:54:29]  Because that psychopathic need to drive people crazy to do cruel things to undermine their life, a lot of mean girl behavior.
[00:54:36]  taps into that exact same axis and it uploads extremely efficiently.
[00:54:40]  So toxic masculinity turns out doesn't go into the metaverse, if you will.
[00:54:45]  Well, apparently it did and that was a problem.
[00:54:47]  But the internet is mean girl city and that is so important to understand.
[00:54:52]  I know this is going to sound so funny and this will get clipped up.
[00:54:55]  If you want to see what toxic femininity is, mean girls is actually an incredibly accurate depiction of the tyranny of toxic femininity.
[00:55:05]  It's told from a teenage perspective of clicks, gossip, backstamming, untruths, appearance.
[00:55:12]  I mean, that right there is what has now metastasized.
[00:55:15]  Now, I know some of you are like whispering each other's ears, like, what?
[00:55:18]  We're going to go watch Mean Girls tonight?
[00:55:19]  Yes, you are.
[00:55:20]  You're going to go watch Mean Girls, and you're going to learn more about where we are as a country than any other film I can think of.
[00:55:25]  And if you don't want to watch it, just log into Twitter.
[00:55:28]  Yeah, that's the same movie.
[00:55:30]  But by the way, Mean Girls runs our CIA.
[00:55:33]  It runs our government.
[00:55:34]  That same hyperfemininity.
[00:55:37]  I know that sounds why they have to steal dresses from the airport so they can wear them.
[00:55:42]  There you go.
[00:55:45]  I do want to say something, but then on the other side of this, where you have right now what's called muscular Christianity kind of making a comeback, which is not necessarily the thing that it pretends to be.
[00:55:54]  That was the socialist movement.
[00:55:56]  Yes, exactly.
[00:55:57]  And that's one of the problems with this is that then men who have responded by just saying, well, now what I will do is I will lift weights and grow my beard and start smoking pipes and so forth.
[00:56:09]  Now I'm a man.
[00:56:10]  As opposed to really one of the things, you know, and I told Jordan this, Jordan Peterson spoke at our first conference back in 2017, before anybody knew who he was.
[00:56:20]  And I told him one of the things that he had said in 2016 is what inspired me to do this and to start this battle, if you will.
[00:56:29]  And that was this.
[00:56:31]  He said, to go and find something to lift that is heavier than you could bear.
[00:56:40]  And that's responsibility.
[00:56:43]  And so it's that concept that that is what really gives you, quote, muscle strength is that responsibility.
[00:56:49]  And that is part of the thing that men are losing.
[00:56:52]  It's not just a question of making sure that you're doing two a days and doing negatives and so forth and making sure that your protein counts are great and that your biceps are now at 20 inches or whatever the case may be.
[00:57:02]  But now it's really about taking responsibility.
[00:57:07]  And so when we look at this, when we're talking about transsexuality, is that that's an easy transition into transhumanism.
[00:57:18]  That's the next step.
[00:57:20]  Yeah, I'll just add, by the way, you're talking about the grow the beard.
[00:57:23]  That's a postmodern image, by the way, of masculinity.
[00:57:26]  It's a way to avoid taking responsibility.
[00:57:30]  This overreactive nonsense is a way to avoid the fact that if you read your Bible, it tells you what it looks like, meekness, which meek isn't bend over.
[00:57:39]  That's toxic femininity.
[00:57:40]  Meekness means doing what you're supposed to do when you're supposed to do it and not causing a fuss otherwise.
[00:57:46]  That's what it means.
[00:57:47]  And actually taking responsibility instead of growing the beard and smoking the pipe looks like the guy who took responsibility 140 years ago, kind of maybe.
[00:57:58]  That's pretend.
[00:57:59]  That's pastiche, to use a word that they use a lot in the language.
[00:58:03]  It's a facade of masculinity.
[00:58:06]  This is why I actually called a lot of the rising so-called neo-reactionary movements when they came out a few years ago.
[00:58:12]  I started a couple of years ago.
[00:58:13]  I started calling them postmodern traditionalism, Pomo Trad.
[00:58:16]  And I called them postmodern traditionalism because they're pretending to be traditional while saying they know it's stupid.
[00:58:23]  That's fake.
[00:58:24]  That's not real.
[00:58:25]  That's not taking responsibility.
[00:58:27]  It's not even conservativism.

=== Real Responsibility vs Pretense (09:41) ===

[00:58:29]  I don't even know exactly what it is.
[00:58:30]  It's adopting the framework of the left.
[00:58:32]  And they all have like crusader motifs and so forth.
[00:58:35]  Oh, of course.
[00:58:36]  On their Twitter handles, right?
[00:58:37]  And then you meet them in real life and they're like five foot six and play Call of Duty all day and they say the war is coming and you say, what are you going to do in the war?
[00:58:43]  And I'm like, they're like, oh, I'm not going to go to war.
[00:58:45]  Of course, I'm going to send memes to stoke the fight.
[00:58:47]  And you think I'm joking and making up a joke, but that's literally something somebody said to me one time who was in one of these crowds.
[00:58:55]  And it's the whole after he told me that he was going to force, convert, or kill me after he used my work to get his agenda done.
[00:59:02]  And I'm just like, what?
[00:59:04]  Like, I'm like the golden beard guy in the meme, all of a sudden, like, dude, I'm not reading all that.
[00:59:08]  Like, what are you talking about?
[00:59:10]  No.
[00:59:11]  But that's what it is.
[00:59:12]  It's a pretense in the absence of actually having what real responsibility is.
[00:59:20]  You grow into responsibility.
[00:59:21]  It's a parable of the talents.
[00:59:23]  That's so important for people to focus on and to think about.
[00:59:27]  It seems to me a lot of times that these like, you know, super, understand what I mean when I say this, because I'm trying to figure out a way.
[00:59:34]  These kind of like super macho, you know, projection Christians or whatever.
[00:59:37]  It's like, I feel like their Bible just has certain pages just cut out.
[00:59:41]  Like parable of talents, just carve that one out of there, get rid of it.
[00:59:44]  You know, Matthew 4, where you don't take, don't take temptations, carve that out, get rid of it.
[00:59:49]  We don't need that.
[00:59:50]  And that's, I feel like they're reading this weird Bible, like the cut out all the important parts that actually talk about growth and development and what it means to be a responsible grown person.
[01:00:01]  And so they grow a beard and get a pipe and wear a waistcoat like on a Tuesday afternoon to go to the grocery store.
[01:00:08]  And it's like, come on, dude.
[01:00:12]  You're going to say something on the transhumanism.
[01:00:15]  Yeah, I mean, on the transhumanism thing, the trans agenda is largely funded by this freak, that billionaire freak from San Francisco, who actually wants to merge man and machine.
[01:00:29]  This is probably the worst work of Elon Musk, even though I think Elon is a really courageous and brave person.
[01:00:34]  And we are all benefiting from his courage, his courage, and his bravery.
[01:00:38]  But I can't remember the person's name, he, she from San Francisco.
[01:00:42]  The stated goal is to merge you with machine.
[01:00:45]  So if you can choose your gender, you could choose your sexuality, you could choose your identity.
[01:00:50]  Well, then you then can merge with some sort of super machine and you could choose your species.
[01:00:56]  And again, this is why I'm so glad this wonderful church is hosting this.
[01:01:01]  I'll be very honest, this midterm election and beyond even politics, I am so just routinely disappointed at how uninformed, cowardly the American church has become.
[01:01:14]  Look, I mean, Raphael Warnock got a six-year term because Georgia Christians thought that he was going to be a much better voice for them than Walker.
[01:01:24]  Walker lost the Christian vote in Alpharetta, in Fulton County, in Cobb, in Gwinnett.
[01:01:32]  In all those suburban Atlanta counties, the churches went against Walker.
[01:01:36]  I'm not talking about black churches.
[01:01:37]  I'm talking about white churches that are run by Andy Stanley.
[01:01:41]  Yeah, they're woke, but they're also very weak.
[01:01:44]  And Michael knows that better than I do.
[01:01:45]  But, I mean, here you have a deliberate agenda that says we're going to destroy your, you know, who you are as a human being.
[01:01:52]  We are going to no longer have man and woman.
[01:01:56]  And somehow the church still hasn't been activated and mobilized yet.
[01:02:00]  That's a disappointment, to say the least.
[01:02:04]  So let's land the plane here.
[01:02:09]  Well, think about it, because basically you've had with us in the hour before, you've had two hours worth of chaos talk, right?
[01:02:16]  And a lot of the things that Charlie just referred to, and then Pat Wood tomorrow is going to be doing a presentation that I've heard already on transhumanism.
[01:02:25]  As you know, if you listen to Sovereign Nations, I've been talking about the transhuman move, which that's what this all is.
[01:02:31]  The fourth industrial revolution isn't just making sure that we all go to electricity.
[01:02:34]  It's about changing you.
[01:02:37]  And that's been Klaus Schwab's idea the entire time.
[01:02:39]  But it's not even his.
[01:02:41]  We're going back a long time ago to H.G. Wells and the global brain, UNESCO, the war is happening in the minds of men the whole bit.
[01:02:49]  So we're now in this process of where those that are actually in the seats of power, the top down, are moving us quickly to that 2030 agenda.
[01:03:00]  What can we do now to reverse this?
[01:03:04]  And, you know, from, I mean, Charlie's front line, okay?
[01:03:09]  And so is James.
[01:03:11]  What do you both think?
[01:03:12]  And then we'll close with that.
[01:03:13]  Yeah, I think it's time we start answering this in postmodern terms.
[01:03:16]  And James, you'll know what I mean when I say this.
[01:03:18]  If you have power, use it.
[01:03:19]  If you don't have power, get it.
[01:03:21]  That's it.
[01:03:22]  That's how we win.
[01:03:23]  If you have political power, economic power, societal power, or religious power, you have to start to use it to fight the bad guys.
[01:03:30]  If you do not have power, go find a way to get power, support those that have it.
[01:03:34]  That's all that matters.
[01:03:35]  And Elon Musk is the best example of this.
[01:03:38]  Elon Musk was a multi-billionaire that did not have any power in the public space or the kind of the free speech fight and said, okay, I'm going to reallocate $44 billion and get power.
[01:03:47]  And it's worked.
[01:03:48]  He's back on Twitter because of it.
[01:03:50]  And finally, we're able to reach millions of people.
[01:03:52]  So that's just an example, right?
[01:03:53]  And you might say, well, Charlie, I'm just kind of a local guy here.
[01:03:57]  How am I supposed to get power?
[01:03:58]  How am I supposed to do it?
[01:03:59]  You don't have to have intergalactic power like Elon Musk does, right?
[01:04:04]  It's as simple as school board, church elder, local community, or how about your family, homeschool, mentor.
[01:04:11]  Those things are all things of power.
[01:04:13]  I hate looking at things through power dynamics.
[01:04:16]  I think that long term, that's unsustainable and wrong.
[01:04:19]  But that's really all that matters right now, to be honest.
[01:04:22]  You're in a turf war against people that purely view things through power.
[01:04:26]  And I'm tired of going to these events.
[01:04:27]  They're like, well, you know, we're going to win because our ideas are better.
[01:04:29]  Actually, that's not true.
[01:04:31]  It's not.
[01:04:32]  Okay.
[01:04:32]  I have an eschatological view that I think Jesus wins in the end.
[01:04:36]  I don't know when he's coming.
[01:04:37]  I don't know if it's soon.
[01:04:38]  I don't know if it's next Thursday.
[01:04:39]  Don't let that be an excuse, by the way, for an action or inaction.
[01:04:43]  But from my own personal calculation, every single day I'm thinking, how can I gain more power to be able to defeat these cockroach Marxists every single day, right?
[01:04:53]  How can I use it to defeat them?
[01:04:54]  That's the only currency that matters right now.
[01:04:58]  And to think like, well, Charlie, we're going to win because, you know, we're going to be the ones that are going to take the high road and we're going to be able to exchange better ideas than them.
[01:05:10]  I encourage you to read 20th century history.
[01:05:12]  There was a lot of great people with good ideas that found their way to gulags because they didn't understand that it's the person who actually controls the means of society that ends up actually calling the shots.
[01:05:24]  So we have to use political power if we have it.
[01:05:27]  If you own a business, you control a school, you control a church, you have money, use that, deploy it.
[01:05:32]  George Soros understands this.
[01:05:34]  He actually understands it with more religious zeal and fervor than most Christians.
[01:05:38]  George Soros is worth $22 billion.
[01:05:40]  He's dedicated $21 billion of it to the fight to destroy the West.
[01:05:44]  Show me a Christian, one that has given 99% of their net worth while they're living to fight the left or advance Christianity.
[01:05:53]  Show me one person.
[01:05:54]  I'm not talking about 5%.
[01:05:55]  He's the most generous human being towards his causes.
[01:06:00]  And he doesn't believe in God.
[01:06:04]  He believes in it more than we do.
[01:06:06]  If you have power, use it.
[01:06:07]  And I think I would say two groups that you would see have done that would be Turning Point USA and Moms for Liberty.
[01:06:14]  Thank you.
[01:06:14]  Yes.
[01:06:15]  I would agree.
[01:06:16]  Those are two organizations, and Moms for Liberty was inspired by the beginning of new discourses.
[01:06:21]  That's why Tiffany and Tina did that.
[01:06:23]  That's not quite true.
[01:06:24]  I don't want to overstate it.
[01:06:24]  They were doing their own thing very early on.
[01:06:28]  I don't want to take credit for something that was actually their brilliant idea on its own.
[01:06:32]  But they very early on reached out to me.
[01:06:35]  We very early on started sharing ideas.
[01:06:37]  And it's been a wonderful partnership working with them for now, I don't know how long, well, over a year and a half.
[01:06:45]  So I did not inspire them in their creation.
[01:06:48]  They had actually something you should all be doing.
[01:06:50]  I don't want to drag this out, but they started with a program.
[01:06:53]  I'll just tell you about it, and then I'll answer the question or follow off of Charlie, is that they started with a program called Liberty Ladies.
[01:07:00]  They were former school board members who had, their terms had come up.
[01:07:03]  They left the school board.
[01:07:04]  Turns out Tina Descovich from Moms for Liberty was on the school board of the district where the Marjorie Stowman Douglas shooting happened while it happened.
[01:07:14]  She was on that school board.
[01:07:16]  Talk about a rough ride in your tenure in school board.
[01:07:19]  So they end up leaving the school board, she and Tiffany and a couple of others, and they started to get together weekly as what they call Liberty Ladies.
[01:07:28]  And what they did was they read line by line, word by word, until they actually understood it.
[01:07:35]  Not as a fun exercise, to understand it.
[01:07:38]  The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
[01:07:43]  And the foundation for Moms for Liberty came from them coming together.
[01:07:47]  You guys can create groups and come together on Thursday nights, get tacos.
[01:07:51]  It's the Sonoran.
[01:07:52]  You can get tacos here and read the Bill of Rights.
[01:07:56]  You can do this till you understand them, till you know what our country is made of and what our liberties are.
[01:08:00]  Because this actually ties back to what I wanted to add on to from what Charlie said.
[01:08:04]  I don't disagree.
[01:08:05]  The name of the game right now actually is power.
[01:08:08]  You have to be able to get it.
[01:08:09]  You have to be able to use it.

=== Power Without Losing Your Head (04:39) ===

[01:08:10]  And especially if you're a Christian, you must not lose yourself to it.
[01:08:14]  Go home, double check, make sure your Bible didn't have Matthew 4 carved out of it because maybe it's missing.
[01:08:20]  Read it.
[01:08:20]  Think about it.
[01:08:21]  The temptation to power will corrupt.
[01:08:23]  The access to power will corrupt.
[01:08:25]  I'm going to use a different legendarium.
[01:08:27]  I'm not to insult Christianity.
[01:08:29]  I'm just going to say Tolkien because I always say Tolkien.
[01:08:31]  You put on the ring and it warps your mind.
[01:08:34]  So if you start using power, you need to remember.
[01:08:37]  And what do you need to remember?
[01:08:38]  Well, you're Christians.
[01:08:39]  Who deserves political authority?
[01:08:41]  Where is political authority?
[01:08:42]  You want to answer that question for me, Charlie?
[01:08:44]  Jesus.
[01:08:45]  God, that's right.
[01:08:46]  If you're a Christian, you believe and you know that the only legitimate authority is God.
[01:08:52]  Right?
[01:08:53]  So who deserves political authority?
[01:08:55]  Those who serve in humility.
[01:08:57]  Nobody else.
[01:08:59]  Which means you keep your head.
[01:09:01]  You don't lose it to the power.
[01:09:03]  You don't become George Soros.
[01:09:05]  You believe as strongly as he does.
[01:09:06]  You commit as strongly as he does, but you don't lose your head.
[01:09:10]  So if you use crappy methods like ballot harvesting programs to get power, you step into office like Kerry Lake, I firmly believe would have done, and you obliterate them on day one.
[01:09:21]  You keep your head.
[01:09:23]  You become a servant like you know you're supposed to be rather than a tyrant, which you know must be cast down.
[01:09:31]  And so if you want to do that, I fully endorse what Charlie said.
[01:09:34]  I don't have anything to add to it except that you must keep your head and you keep your head through service.
[01:09:39]  And you keep your head through service by remembering where legitimate and illegitimate authority is.
[01:09:44]  And for Christians, it's obvious where that is.
[01:09:46]  It's harder for people like me to answer, but we can spend an hour.
[01:09:49]  That's another talk for another day.
[01:09:51]  You must serve with humility.
[01:09:54]  And that's absolutely crucial at the heart of what you do.
[01:09:58]  They always say if you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you and you'll become what you fight.
[01:10:02]  This is how you stop that from happening.
[01:10:06]  It's so important.
[01:10:07]  So get square with your, when we say get based and where the kids are all like, yay, that's what we're talking about.
[01:10:13]  Final, final thing, just an announcement.
[01:10:15]  We have an amazing event.
[01:10:16]  I think James, we have confirmed.
[01:10:18]  He's invited to all of our stuff.
[01:10:20]  America Fest, Phoenix Convention Center, the 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th.
[01:10:26]  That's next Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
[01:10:28]  We have Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfeld, Candace Owens, Kaylee McEnany.
[01:10:33]  Anyone planning on coming?
[01:10:34]  Anyone have a couple tickets?
[01:10:35]  Cool.
[01:10:35]  Great.
[01:10:36]  If you guys want to come, you guys can use promo code Arizona.
[01:10:39]  Gets you guys 50% off.
[01:10:40]  If you can't afford tickets, just talk to Michael or James.
[01:10:44]  We'd be happy to help you guys out.
[01:10:45]  We want everyone to come.
[01:10:47]  Talk to Kathy.
[01:10:48]  Yeah, just talk to Kathy.
[01:10:50]  We don't want cost to be a thing, but if you can afford tickets, it does help cover the overhead and all donations go to, all the proceeds go to Turning Point USA.
[01:10:56]  So we don't want to be cost inhibitive, but it's an expensive event to hold on, to put on.
[01:11:01]  And it's going to be amazing.
[01:11:02]  Biggest speakers in the whole movement.
[01:11:04]  That's just the convention center right down the street, December 17, 18, 19, 20.
[01:11:08]  We're anticipating 10,000 people.
[01:11:10]  I think it's really going to charge you guys up.
[01:11:11]  You're going to learn a lot.
[01:11:12]  It's going to be pretty awesome.
[01:11:13]  So the website is amfest.com.
[01:11:17]  That's amfest.com.
[01:11:20]  And if cost is an issue, just talk and we'll be happy to work with you guys.
[01:11:24]  Final charge for the people before we leave.
[01:11:28]  I mean, what I just said is a final charge I want to give you.
[01:11:31]  Get your head on straight and lead.
[01:11:33]  What that means is figure out how you serve with humility, but also with strength.
[01:11:38]  That's what you have to do.
[01:11:39]  This is the moment.
[01:11:40]  No long speech, no BS.
[01:11:42]  Just do that.
[01:11:44]  Yeah.
[01:11:45]  I wish I could be here for more of the conference, but I'm running all over the place.
[01:11:48]  I got to leave the state tomorrow and I'll be back.
[01:11:50]  Look, we got to play to win.
[01:11:52]  And we have to, that victory has to be our objective.
[01:11:56]  And one of the reasons why I love Michael and James so much is they truly understand what we're up against.
[01:12:01]  But look, the other side, it seems as if it's overwhelming and they're super sophisticated.
[01:12:06]  That is somewhat true, but I could tell you right now, they're a lot more vulnerable than they lead on.
[01:12:12]  And no matter what the complacent people say or the naysayers say, the remnant of people that just keep on fighting that hold the line, I'm telling you, that's going to be our differentiator.
[01:12:24]  And we got to play to win.
[01:12:26]  We got to get power.
[01:12:27]  And if you have power, we have to use it.
[01:12:29]  We must win.
[01:12:30]  Would you please thank these two gentlemen?
[01:12:35]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[01:12:37]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[01:12:40]  Thank you so much for listening.
[01:12:41]  God bless.
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