The Charlie Kirk Show - Recapping Everything We Know About Arizona with Tyler Bowyer
Aired: 2022-11-21
Duration: 39:31


=== Intentional Election Interference (14:59) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody, happy Monday.
[00:00:01]  Kind of an Ask Me Anything episode and a recap of everything happening with the great Tyler Boyer from TurningpointAction tpaction.com.
[00:00:08]  We dissect everything happening in Arizona and across the country.
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[00:00:42]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:00:42]  Here we go.
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[00:01:25]  Tyler Boyer is here.
[00:01:27]  Many of you know him from the last feels like a long month this last week.
[00:01:31]  Oh my, it's been like a long year this last week.
[00:01:33]  It's we've been everywhere, and I'm telling you what, like, again, I just want to reiterate for the entire audience, Charlie.
[00:01:41]  There are only a few states that matter for 2024.
[00:01:44]  We happen to be sitting in what I think is number one or number two.
[00:01:47]  I think it's a really hard call to say that you've got Arizona, you've got Georgia, you've got Wisconsin.
[00:01:54]  Those three states are going to really determine what the future of the fate of the country is going to be in 2024.
[00:02:00]  And I'm, you know, we've been working hard.
[00:02:04]  We've been busting our tail, but I'm infuriated because the national apparatus, the national Republican apparatus, has not taken that seriously here in Arizona.
[00:02:15]  They just haven't.
[00:02:16]  And so we are now staring down, you know, doing everything we can, claw, tooth, nail, everything to make sure Abraham Hamidai gets across the finish line.
[00:02:27]  And I know that people are following that very closely.
[00:02:29]  I've been following it.
[00:02:30]  It's 304 votes right now.
[00:02:32]  Yeah.
[00:02:32]  And subject to change, obviously.
[00:02:34]  Yep.
[00:02:35]  Yep.
[00:02:35]  And it's, he's got to win in order to give us any kind of fighting chance for the future of Arizona.
[00:02:41]  He's got to win.
[00:02:42]  And so God bless those.
[00:02:44]  Like, we've seen a lot of haters come out, a lot of moderates who did nothing.
[00:02:49]  In fact, they were like working against us, working against conservatives in Arizona throughout this.
[00:02:53]  And now it's very clear that they were doing that.
[00:02:55]  And now they have the gall after we are about to win or barely, barely lose, like a hair lose for Carrie or a hair lose for Abe or a hair lose for these other guys.
[00:03:05]  I mean, even Blake was like 2%.
[00:03:08]  Our issue here is that now those people are coming out saying, oh, the Republican Party needs to refine itself.
[00:03:15]  Like this is Liz Cheney stuff, guys.
[00:03:16]  Liz Cheney just got body slammed.
[00:03:18]  If we want to get body slammed like Liz Cheney across the ballot, listen to these people.
[00:03:22]  The heroes of Arizona this week were the ones that were chasing ballots and curing ballots because Abe Hamaday, when he wins, it will be because of the cured ballots.
[00:03:31]  So I want to make sure people understand this: that there was a sign, and it's kind of revealing itself because people are actually now bragging about it in establishment circles because they were super quiet, at least quiet in my observation.
[00:03:46]  I mean, I'm sure you were aware of a lot of it.
[00:03:48]  But a lot of kind of the traditional Republican Arizona infrastructure is now kind of clamoring like, oh, we did this type thing.
[00:03:59]  Meaning like we, we, you should have listened to us type thing.
[00:04:03]  Like, this is what happens when you don't work with.
[00:04:05]  Yeah, guys, I'm going to make something very clear.
[00:04:07]  You can have that argument either side.
[00:04:09]  Like conservatives have been in that position too.
[00:04:11]  Like, look, we like nominated Martha McSally here twice, right?
[00:04:15]  Twice in Arizona.
[00:04:16]  She got obliterated twice.
[00:04:17]  She got obliterated twice.
[00:04:18]  She really did.
[00:04:19]  She got obliterated.
[00:04:20]  She got obliterated.
[00:04:22]  And, you know, the reason why we say she got obliterated last election cycle is she lost worse than Trump by a lot.
[00:04:29]  Right.
[00:04:29]  And so Trump lost Arizona, you know, including all the hanky-banking.
[00:04:34]  10,000 votes.
[00:04:35]  All the issues, the cheating and everything else that was going on, the 2,000 mule stuff that we know now and the vote harvesting and all of that.
[00:04:42]  He lost by 10,000 votes on paper.
[00:04:45]  She lost by way more than that.
[00:04:46]  Right.
[00:04:47]  So she lost, I think, by like 70 or 80,000 votes.
[00:04:50]  So she was like eight times worse than Trump in Arizona.
[00:04:53]  This is that you can make the argument that I think if you're the other side of the party, that you should have listened to us if that person gets blown out of the water.
[00:05:02]  The reality is this, is that when you could be the difference maker, right, on the election, like your support, your effort, you can't, that argument's null and void.
[00:05:14]  It's just, it's a, it's a dumb argument to make.
[00:05:17]  And so many people are referencing Karen Taylor Robeson came out and was like, ha, see, that was like this like vengeance post.
[00:05:25]  Like she, it was like clearly she had prepared for like the next day after the election to go after Carrie Lake.
[00:05:30]  And it's like, guys, you know, we've had Karen in here.
[00:05:33]  We've been friendly with a lot of people that are friendly with her.
[00:05:36]  She's been to turning point events, but it's like, that's not, that's not true.
[00:05:39]  Like if you would have just helped Carrie that she would have won.
[00:05:42]  Like if you, if you would have, if like the Chamber of Commerce would have endorsed Carrie, that's probably worth $10, $20,000.
[00:05:48]  So the Chamber endorsed Katie Hobbs?
[00:05:49]  No, the Chamber didn't endorse anybody.
[00:05:51]  The Chamber just sat on the sidelines.
[00:05:52]  And the Chamber and the business community now is going to figure out in Arizona real quick what happens when you elect a socialist as a as a as a governor, right?
[00:06:00]  Because that's potentially what Katie Hobbs could be is like this like really rabid, nasty, super radical governor.
[00:06:07]  And it's like, Carrie was going to like just like, okay, maybe you weren't like number one on your list building a wall like the rest of us were like 95% of the party.
[00:06:15]  But like, you know, now the business economy like crazy.
[00:06:18]  Yeah.
[00:06:18]  Now the business community is going to really suffer from it.
[00:06:20]  And it's like, this is called self-defeating politics.
[00:06:23]  And so, look, if Carrie would have lost by five, 10 points, you know, I would say, okay, you know what?
[00:06:30]  Okay.
[00:06:30]  You guys, everyone should walk away.
[00:06:33]  But that's not what happened.
[00:06:34]  We were in this tooth and nail battle.
[00:06:36]  Conservatives led for the first time in a state like Arizona.
[00:06:42]  And we gave it to the Democrats.
[00:06:44]  And all we needed was that other three, like it was actually a half percent of these moderates, but we really needed like three, 5% that we think that kind of chilled at home.
[00:06:54]  And we win everything.
[00:06:56]  And this is the story that this is the learning experience that the party has to learn is we have to learn how to get along.
[00:07:02]  You have to learn when you lose a primary, you have to suck it up and you have to support your team.
[00:07:07]  Otherwise, you know, now, you know, I can tell you after Karen's post, no one's going to listen to Karen ever again.
[00:07:12]  She's not going to be a leader in the party.
[00:07:14]  Like what she did was like the worst self-defeating post that would ever happen.
[00:07:18]  And that's just my opinion.
[00:07:19]  Yeah.
[00:07:20]  So, and then there wasn't a lot of national money that came in either.
[00:07:23]  Is that right?
[00:07:23]  Yeah.
[00:07:24]  I mean, look, Mitch McConnell completely blanked Arizona.
[00:07:28]  You know, we knew the issues that were happening at the at the national level.
[00:07:33]  I mean, I, I, I tweeted this morning and you saw it and you and I had been had been saying this.
[00:07:38]  You've been saying this on your show and thank you for saying it for weeks and weeks leading up to the election that we're going to have long lines.
[00:07:45]  We are going to have equipment malfunction.
[00:07:47]  We're going to run out of ink.
[00:07:48]  We were going to have chain of custody issues.
[00:07:51]  Luckily, we've had very few chain of custody issues because we've had all of our observers on the mark.
[00:07:57]  But there's a reason why we were saying all these things.
[00:07:59]  And people are looking at that tweet now, going, How did you know?
[00:08:02]  Are you from the future?
[00:08:03]  Are you, you know, are you part of, are you a psyop?
[00:08:06]  Are you like all that stuff?
[00:08:08]  It's like, no, guys, we just have been involved and I've been watching these elections.
[00:08:12]  I was a county chairman in Maricopa County and I could predict this.
[00:08:15]  I could read exactly what was going to happen.
[00:08:17]  And Maricopa County did nothing but laugh at us.
[00:08:20]  They laughed and mocked the grassroots when we brought these things up.
[00:08:24]  Yep.
[00:08:25]  Yeah.
[00:08:25]  And we brought it up repeatedly.
[00:08:27]  And we told, I mean, I tweeted something of a similar vein right at Stephen Richer.
[00:08:32]  And we said, you guys are going to have lines issues, toner issues, printing issues.
[00:08:37]  And, but it's also, we broadcasted our big play to them, though, too.
[00:08:40]  We told them what we were going to do, and they ambushed us.
[00:08:44]  Yeah, I mean, they said, we don't care.
[00:08:45]  We're just going to screw with the public, anyways.
[00:08:47]  And look, I mean, that's why we got to get Abe Hamaday in because Abe can investigate this and find out whether or not this was intentional, right?
[00:08:56]  A lot of people online.
[00:08:57]  304 votes right now.
[00:08:59]  A lot of people online are saying this was intentional.
[00:09:01]  This was intentional.
[00:09:02]  We don't know if this was just pure incompetency or it was intentional.
[00:09:05]  It doesn't matter.
[00:09:06]  What matters is that it's the system that everybody's been screaming about, which was put together by this domino organization, right?
[00:09:14]  And like that's, you know, they brought this in.
[00:09:17]  Everyone said, hey, getting rid of precinct base polling is a bad idea.
[00:09:21]  Cutting our number of polling places in half is a bad idea.
[00:09:24]  Getting rid of pre-printed ballots that are markable and traceable, that are totally traceable is a bad idea.
[00:09:30]  Just being able to print them on site on demand, terrible idea.
[00:09:33]  Why would you want to do that?
[00:09:35]  And those are the two things that ultimately suppressed voters.
[00:09:39]  And so now Maricopa County has not only embarrassed us, not only have they not apologized, but now we have this circumstance where we have literal voter suppression.
[00:09:49]  And Republicans aren't used to fighting these battles, but we have to.
[00:09:52]  You have to speak up.
[00:09:53]  If you didn't get a chance to vote, if you know someone that didn't get a chance to vote, they need to speak up now because this is your most fundamental American right.
[00:10:02]  Yep.
[00:10:03]  It really is.
[00:10:04]  And what could be a potential remedy for that?
[00:10:06]  I mean, look, right now, the lawyers are on it.
[00:10:09]  Just so that everybody knows, and I put everybody a little bit of ease, there's going to be a recount for Abe's race.
[00:10:15]  He's within just a couple hundred votes.
[00:10:17]  What does the process of that look like?
[00:10:18]  They got to go back and redo this whole thing.
[00:10:20]  But now there's more lawyers watching every single element of this because they have to in every county?
[00:10:25]  Yes.
[00:10:25]  They have to go through every single ballot and rescan every ballot.
[00:10:29]  And so, if there's discrepancies that exist now between the first count and the second count.
[00:10:35]  What does history show what a discrepancy could be in a recount?
[00:10:38]  I mean, you could have a couple percentage points, which in Maricopa County is, yeah, a couple percentage points is that thousand total votes.
[00:10:44]  Yeah, and so this is where it implicates Carrie's race then, too.
[00:10:47]  If Carrie's within the margin of error on are they are they recounting every race or just the attorney general?
[00:10:51]  Just the attorney generals, but if the attorney general has a ton of issues, right?
[00:10:55]  That race, like you have to with like adjudicated ballots, you have to verify Charlie Kirk here.
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[00:12:02]  The Biden regime has now announced a special counsel to determine whether or not Donald Trump should be charged.
[00:12:11]  This is all planned.
[00:12:12]  And by the way, this means that Hunter Biden will probably be indicted soon.
[00:12:15]  That has been our prediction for quite some time to make it seem like they're playing both sides.
[00:12:20]  This thing's going to get pretty messy.
[00:12:23]  It's going to get very ugly.
[00:12:25]  And this is the reason why, Charlie, like the grassroots has to rise up more than it ever has before.
[00:12:31]  And this cannot be personality driven alone, right?
[00:12:34]  Like we're not going to convert more people over to our side by just, you know, waving flags and honking and lying.
[00:12:44]  So let's talk about that.
[00:12:45]  So we've been, you know, people, how long have you and I been advocating for the Trump world to stop just doing rallies and turn them into action events?
[00:12:52]  Yeah, I mean, we do it for five or six years.
[00:12:55]  So Charlie, it wouldn't be fair to advocate for that.
[00:12:58]  And because there's a lot of people that do that in D.C. who tell you what to do and they don't actually do it themselves.
[00:13:04]  What we do at Turning Point Action is we host an event.
[00:13:06]  We'll do an event basically with anybody.
[00:13:09]  We really will, right?
[00:13:10]  Like, it doesn't matter who it is.
[00:13:12]  Trump, DeSantis, like we'll, we'll host.
[00:13:15]  Well, we do have some standards.
[00:13:16]  We know Liz Cheney.
[00:13:17]  Well, people who we endorse, but like, and we support.
[00:13:20]  But I mean, look, look, I mean, we have, we'll do it with anyone that we support.
[00:13:24]  And we go out and when people show up to those rallies, when we have hundreds, if not thousands of people that show up to our events, we give them a clipboard on the way out.
[00:13:32]  We say, we need you to go knock these 20 doors.
[00:13:34]  And those 20 doors are what's going to make the difference.
[00:13:36]  Think about this for a second, Charlie.
[00:13:38]  Think about every single Trump rally that's ever happened.
[00:13:41]  If on the way out, they said, if Trump from the microphone said, look, I'm glad you're all here.
[00:13:47]  You know, in Arizona, we were just talking about this.
[00:13:49]  It was like so hot, people were passing out.
[00:13:51]  I think 200 people passed out.
[00:13:52]  200 people passed out.
[00:13:53]  By the way, you and I joked.
[00:13:54]  You joked when that happened.
[00:13:55]  That's going to be a defining issue because I think of their family members that are like super angry because they had to stand in the sun for seven hours.
[00:14:03]  Yeah.
[00:14:03]  If people show up, they stand in the sun for seven hours.
[00:14:06]  Maybe it's your first Trump rally.
[00:14:07]  You're passing out.
[00:14:08]  And then like every family member that's going to be a lot of people.
[00:14:10]  There were literally 200 people hospitalized.
[00:14:12]  If I was not political and I saw that happen, I'd be like, I'm not voting for that guy.
[00:14:16]  Yeah.
[00:14:16]  Like all 50 of my family members would be like, that's stupid.
[00:14:20]  Like that person is stupid.
[00:14:22]  So anyways, going back, the point of the Trump rally should be this.
[00:14:25]  Keep it short, keep it sweet, keep it healthy.
[00:14:29]  Do it in places that are a little bit better, a little bit nicer where you're not passing out or it's not turning into a carnival.
[00:14:34]  Literally, there was like 200 people, I think, that passed out.
[00:14:37]  It was like a carney.
[00:14:38]  No, it was like hundreds of people or getting sick or whatever.
[00:14:42]  And hand out clipboards on the way out.
[00:14:45]  And we're being very serious about this, right?
[00:14:47]  Like at least give people a freaking bumper sticker, right?
[00:14:49]  Or a yard sign.
[00:14:50]  But like give people a clipboard and say, I need you to take these door hangers.
[00:14:55]  Or here's an application you can download to like 15 doors.

=== Smith Special Counsel Choice (03:36) ===

[00:14:59]  Exactly, which we've developed at Turning Point Action.
[00:15:02]  I want to cut to this press conference.
[00:15:03]  Sorry, Tyler, this Department of Justice announcement.
[00:15:06]  Is that what we have right now?
[00:15:07]  Okay, let's cut to that, please.
[00:15:09]  Main under the authority of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia.
[00:15:14]  The special counsel will also conduct the investigation involving classified documents and other presidential records, as well as the possible obstruction of that investigation.
[00:15:26]  Today, I signed an order appointing Jack Smith to serve as special counsel.
[00:15:32]  The order authorizes him to continue the ongoing investigation into both of the matters that I have just described and to prosecute any federal crimes that may arise from those investigations.
[00:15:44]  Mr. Smith is a veteran career prosecutor.
[00:15:48]  He began his prosecutorial career in 1994 as an assistant district attorney with the New York County DA's office.
[00:15:56]  In 1999, he became an assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, where over the course of nine years, he prosecuted matters ranging from gang murders of police officers to civil rights violations.
[00:16:10]  From 2008 to 2010, he served with the International Criminal Court, where he supervised war crimes investigations.
[00:16:18]  In 2010, Mr. Smith returned to the Justice Department to serve as chief of the Public Integrity Section, where he led a team of more than 30 prosecutors who handled public corruption and election crimes cases across the United States.
[00:16:34]  In 2015, he agreed to serve as the first Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee, later becoming the acting United States Attorney.
[00:16:43]  Most recently, Mr. Smith served as a chief prosecutor for the special court in The Hague charged with investigating and adjudicating war crimes in Kosovo.
[00:16:53]  Mr. Smith will begin his work as special counsel immediately and will be returning to the United States from The Hague.
[00:17:01]  Throughout his career, Jack Smith has built a reputation as an impartial and determined prosecutor who leads teams with energy and focus to follow the facts wherever they lead.
[00:17:13]  As special counsel, he will exercise independent prosecutorial judgment to decide whether charges should be brought.
[00:17:21]  Although the special counsel will not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the department, he must comply with the regulations, procedures, and policies of the department.
[00:17:32]  I will ensure that the special counsel receives the resources to conduct this work quickly and completely.
[00:17:39]  Given the work to date and Mr. Smith's prosecutorial experience, I am confident that this appointment will not slow the completion of these investigations.
[00:17:50]  The men and women who are pursuing these investigations are conducting themselves in accordance with the highest standards of professionalism.
[00:17:59]  I could not be prouder of them.
[00:18:02]  I strongly believe that the normal processes of this department can handle all investigations with integrity.
[00:18:09]  And I also believe that appointing a special counsel at this time is the right thing to do.
[00:18:15]  The extraordinary circumstances presented here demand it.
[00:18:19]  Mr. Smith is the right choice to complete these matters in an even-handed and urgent manner.
[00:18:27]  Thank you all.
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[00:19:57]  There is a season for everything, it says in the Bible in Ecclesiastes.
[00:20:01]  Let me actually try to get that verse.
[00:20:03]  It's a great verse.
[00:20:04]  And it's hard to tell what kind of season we are in.
[00:20:08]  Yeah, it's Ecclesiastes 3, 1 through 8, written by Solomon.
[00:20:12]  For everything, there is a season, a time for activity under heaven, a time to be born, a time to die, time to plant, a time to harvest, a time to kill, and a time to heal.
[00:20:21]  A time to tear down and a time to build up.
[00:20:23]  A time to cry and a time to laugh.
[00:20:24]  Yes, I know you're probably thinking it's the Simon and Garfunkel song.
[00:20:26]  That's where they got it from.
[00:20:28]  A time to grieve and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and time to gather stones.
[00:20:31]  What season are we in right now?
[00:20:34]  There's a few of those in there that might apply.
[00:20:39]  There's a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be quiet, a time to speak, a time to love, a time to hate, a time for war, and a time for peace.
[00:20:45]  I mean, when I think when I, Charlie, when I think about where we're at as a movement, we have to look at all the positive things that have been built.
[00:20:56]  Here's a couple of positives.
[00:20:57]  And we've talked about this at length.
[00:20:59]  Trump shattered what was a trajectory that was going to be, that was going to put us in a bad place for a long time.
[00:21:06]  It's just true.
[00:21:07]  If it wasn't for Trump, the gains that we have in the blue collar and Latino communities and everything else would not be that.
[00:21:14]  He bailed us out, man.
[00:21:15]  He bailed us out.
[00:21:16]  He shattered things.
[00:21:16]  He redirected.
[00:21:18]  It created an alternate timeline that was really positive for conservatives.
[00:21:22]  Now, what our job has to be is how do we take that?
[00:21:24]  And it involves everybody, right?
[00:21:26]  It's not just up to President Trump to decide what he wants to do and everyone just goes along with it.
[00:21:31]  It's not up to Charlie Kirk on what we do.
[00:21:33]  It's not up to every individual member of the grassroots and every grassroots organization or what we do.
[00:21:38]  This is an effort together.
[00:21:40]  And this is what truly America, what makes America wonderful is that that's an ebb and flow emotion that requires all of us to show up.
[00:21:48]  And then we all start herding cats in a direction that has to be positive.
[00:21:53]  What we're missing right now, and this is what concerns me the most, is with Mitch McConnell and others, right?
[00:21:59]  We are lacking a leadership function that says, that gives direction, that's healthy, right?
[00:22:08]  And so I think this is where Donald Trump is sucking all the air out of the room, right?
[00:22:12]  Because there's no one that exists like that.
[00:22:14]  And he gets up on the podium, at the podium and on stage and starts saying the things that we all want to hear and that we need to hear.
[00:22:22]  And he's providing leadership where there is lacking, right?
[00:22:26]  And so how I look at it is like, look, Donald Trump shouldn't be the only guy that's doing that, though.
[00:22:31]  That should be Mitch McConnell.
[00:22:33]  That should be Kevin McCarthy.
[00:22:34]  That should be whoever leads the RNC, if it's Ron or whoever else.
[00:22:37]  That needs to be, you know, the Charlie Kirks of the world.
[00:22:40]  That needs to be the Dan Bonginas of the world.
[00:22:42]  It needs to be all of our friends that are at the Tucker Carlsons of the world.
[00:22:45]  And Tucker does a really good job of this too, right?
[00:22:47]  This is a reason why people respect him.
[00:22:49]  You have to give an outline of what we need to do and where we need to go next.
[00:22:53]  Otherwise, people are just running around like chickens with their heads cut off, attacking each other, not knowing what's going on.
[00:22:59]  A bunch of the grassroots, not really understanding where we're at as a party or as a movement.
[00:23:04]  And that's how we lose people.
[00:23:06]  The breaking news is Jack Smith has been brought in to run this special counsel against Trump.
[00:23:16]  You know who he prosecuted?
[00:23:17]  Rick Renzi.
[00:23:18]  Yes.
[00:23:19]  What did he do wrong?
[00:23:21]  It was a land issue.
[00:23:23]  I couldn't speak to the very specifics, but he was accused of using like a pay-to-play scenario.
[00:23:32]  It was, I think, the late 90s, early 2000s.
[00:23:35]  I think it was early 2000s was when it was.
[00:23:36]  It was like a land swap deal or something.
[00:23:38]  It was a land swap deal that he had some insight on because of his position as a congressman.
[00:23:43]  Was he governor?
[00:23:44]  McCain went after him.
[00:23:45]  Arizona guy.
[00:23:46]  Yeah, he was the congressman.
[00:23:47]  And McCain went after him hard and threw him under the bus.
[00:23:51]  And other people that were here.
[00:23:54]  And they went, I honestly, my take is, is not knowing all the specific details, but what I understand from people I trust is that he was thrown way under the bus, way harder under the bus than he ever should have been.
[00:24:07]  Trump actually, I think, pardoned him.
[00:24:10]  Oh, is that right?
[00:24:10]  Yeah, I think he was on the last day of office by Donald Trump.
[00:24:15]  Yeah, and he, and again, because he was treated the way that he was treated, it was, if you don't think there was a political motive that was there, there was a total political motive.
[00:24:24]  It was part of the McCain machine that was here.
[00:24:26]  Yeah.
[00:24:26]  So Jack Smith, and he also prosecuted Bob McDonnell, and then he started building the case against Bob Menendez.
[00:24:32]  So this guy is a bulldog that they now have going up against Trump.
[00:24:34]  It's one of their top level prosecutors who they've brought in.
[00:24:38]  He looks like Peter Struckstroke Smirk, and he's coming in now to try to take Trump off the chessboard for 2024.
[00:24:45]  Yep.
[00:24:46]  And, you know, quite honestly, this is stuff.
[00:24:50]  Again, you brought it up with everything that's happened with the Hunter Biden front.
[00:24:54]  I mean, this is such a disaster.
[00:24:56]  I mean, America, no one can actually look on the outside of this with everything going on and say, I trust the government.
[00:25:03]  Everything's going the way it's supposed to.
[00:25:05]  We have to defend this country.
[00:25:08]  We have to defend this country.
[00:25:10]  We have to step up, not just for Donald Trump, but for the rule of law in general.
[00:25:16]  This is out of control.
[00:25:17]  The fact that they've literally ignored Hunter Biden for years now, probably.
[00:25:23]  They're going to do some tax thing on him so it doesn't look like it's overly political.
[00:25:26]  But all this is tough.
[00:25:27]  Oh, they're going to do everything they can do to just water the bridge.
[00:25:31]  They announced the special counsel conveniently right after Republicans take the house and they say they're going after the Biden family.
[00:25:37]  Unbelievable.
[00:25:38]  And now they got this bulldog, Jack Smith, who's going to go after him.
[00:25:42]  I mean, we live in a scary time, Charlie.
[00:25:44]  This is the point with that scripture, which is that we're in a very scary time.
[00:25:49]  It's a time for everything.
[00:25:50]  But what I like about that scripture is this, is that we have to be on the Lord's side.
[00:25:56]  We have to be on God's side, right?
[00:25:57]  We can't expect God to come to our side.
[00:25:59]  We can't expect to stand here and say, help, we're in trouble.
[00:26:04]  Like, we need to be paddling, swimming as much as we can to try to get out of this current.
[00:26:09]  And I think the Lord will always meet you halfway.
[00:26:12]  That's just my belief.
[00:26:14]  But right now, what I love about that scripture is this, is this, is that there's a time for everything.
[00:26:19]  And we have to figure out, we have to use our brains.
[00:26:22]  We have to use our minds.
[00:26:23]  We have to humble ourselves to figure out what time it is every single day.
[00:26:27]  We have to wake up every day and be like, is today rock throwing day?
[00:26:30]  Or is it rock scattering day?
[00:26:32]  Is today, you know, that is where we're at.
[00:26:36]  Someone emailed us freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:26:39]  Charlie, I am ready to give up.
[00:26:41]  I want to just stop acting.
[00:26:44]  I just want to stop being an activist.
[00:26:45]  Basically, this whole thing, they've cheated.
[00:26:46]  They've done all these things.
[00:26:47]  You know, what hope can you give me?
[00:26:49]  Tyler, how often do you get messages like this of people that just want to totally give up?
[00:26:52]  Look, there is no giving up.
[00:26:54]  We've said this, right?
[00:26:55]  There is no giving up.
[00:26:56]  The moment you give up, weak men are what enable tyrants.
[00:27:03]  This is what they want.
[00:27:05]  Tyranny wants you to give up.
[00:27:07]  Tyranny wants you to quit.
[00:27:09]  Tyranny wants you to be your little guy that punches your heart.
[00:27:12]  Guys, think about Soviet Russia.
[00:27:13]  That's what I think about.
[00:27:14]  That's why I studied.
[00:27:15]  I lived over in Russia.
[00:27:16]  I speak fluent Russian.
[00:27:18]  You know 17th generation American, so i'm not not a Russian plant or spy, but I studied that because I went on my mission to Russia and i'm telling you what Soviet, the Soviet Era did is.
[00:27:29]  The expectation was is that you show up, you punch your card and you go home.
[00:27:33]  You shut up yep, that's what Marxism wants.
[00:27:36]  That's what Marxism calls for.
[00:27:38]  This is what these people want.
[00:27:40]  They want you to shut up, punch your time card and go home and you'll like whatever is given to you.
[00:27:45]  That's, that's as simple as you can put it for any of your friends and family that aren't studious to Marxism versus Freedom, right?
[00:27:53]  Is that the life you want to live?
[00:27:55]  Or do you like living the life where you get to go freely on vacation wherever you want?
[00:27:58]  And like you can buy whatever you want.
[00:27:59]  You can do whatever you want.
[00:28:00]  You can give the birds to the government and not get thrown in jail for it.
[00:28:04]  Because that's not the trajectory we're on with these people that we're up against.
[00:28:08]  That's right.
[00:28:09]  Okay, got another question here.
[00:28:10]  Charlie, what is the process actually of the recount?
[00:28:13]  Here's one here.
[00:28:14]  Charlie, listen to your show.
[00:28:15]  Is it impossible for Kerry Lake to request a recount?
[00:28:17]  His hobby is going to be governor of Arizona.
[00:28:19]  Sincerely, Anthony.
[00:28:21]  I mean, look, the only outline hope here is this, is that the lawsuits that prevail, there's two different directions that can happen here, Charlie.
[00:28:28]  One is that a recount is going to happen for Abe Hamada.
[00:28:32]  That's for sure.
[00:28:33]  That's for sure going to happen.
[00:28:36]  It's by law, right?
[00:28:37]  By law, it's an automatic recount, which means that if they discover more issues in addition to the ones that we already know exist, that's going to just compound on what we already know.
[00:28:48]  Now, this is a little different than the presidential election in 2020 because you don't have the external electoral college pressures.
[00:28:56]  You have some certification problems, right?
[00:28:58]  But you don't have as because in 2020, everything was so rushed because of the electoral college needing to meet, right?
[00:29:05]  It was so quick.
[00:29:06]  It was so down the thoroughfare.
[00:29:08]  Some of this is the same, which is certifications and statute.
[00:29:11]  It's law that they have to certify by a certain time and date to remain within the law.
[00:29:17]  But, I mean, look, they've taken this so slow.
[00:29:20]  Like, they've gone so slow with this.
[00:29:22]  And now they have to recount everything.
[00:29:24]  You can't imagine it's going to go fast, right?
[00:29:27]  But it won't be interesting if they all of a sudden, like, their recount process goes really quick.
[00:29:31]  Yeah, that will show you everything you need to know that they could have done this election to begin with very quickly.
[00:29:36]  But I mean, look, the second thing is, is this is like, Charlie, we still have all these outstanding issues that happen on election day.
[00:29:43]  Like, there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of people who were suppressed at the polling places.
[00:29:49]  Minimum.
[00:29:50]  Minimum.
[00:29:50]  Thousands of people.
[00:29:51]  And so if you don't think that that has the impact of making a claim that a number of citizens here in the state of Arizona can say, hey, I was suppressed.
[00:30:01]  My voting rights were blocked essentially on 11-8 because of the actions of Maricopa County and the decisions that Bill Gates and Stephen Richer and all those made.
[00:30:12]  That's likely going to happen.
[00:30:13]  That's going to delay things even further, especially if a judge that I think would be a competent judge would hear this thing out.
[00:30:22]  How can you look at this and say, again, if this was downtown Detroit, Charlie, or downtown Philadelphia, what do you think would have happened?
[00:30:32]  I mean, it would already be upheaval by now.
[00:30:34]  They would have extended the election by a week and they would have flown in the DOJ's SWAT team, the IRS's SWAT team.
[00:30:42]  The DOJ's all the Fed SWAT teams that they have.
[00:30:45]  The Civil Rights Division would have accepted it.
[00:30:47]  Yeah, the Civil Rights Division would have totally come in.
[00:30:49]  They would have been manning the polling places like we saw happen over the course of history.
[00:30:54]  They're prepared to do that.
[00:30:56]  They were prepared to do that in Arizona as it was.
[00:30:59]  Isn't it interesting?
[00:30:59]  So the DOJ ahead of the Arizona election said they're going to be there poll watching for civil rights violations.
[00:31:05]  So they were there.
[00:31:06]  They were there.
[00:31:07]  And didn't do anything.
[00:31:08]  Have you heard anything from the DJ?
[00:31:10]  Of course not.
[00:31:10]  Have we heard anything?
[00:31:11]  DOJ rights.
[00:31:12]  By the way, so we were getting emails from people.
[00:31:15]  Charlie, why are there all these drones over the polling places?
[00:31:17]  Those were federal government Department of Justice drones that were looking for voter intimidation.
[00:31:23]  So they were like, oh, yeah, there's going to be right-wing vigilantes, you know, intimidating.
[00:31:27]  None of that happened.
[00:31:28]  It was all a lie.
[00:31:29]  Yeah, it was all made up.
[00:31:30]  What did happen?
[00:31:31]  Guns at the polling places was what they said.
[00:31:33]  What did happen is that, and this is what I want to dive into this in the last segment.
[00:31:36]  Is it true, Tyler, that the machines were working perfectly for in-person early voting?
[00:31:40]  Yeah, we have no reported, no known reported issues, right?
[00:31:45]  And if there were issues, why didn't they explain those and report in this?
[00:31:49]  So, but what changed?
[00:31:51]  That's the question.
[00:31:52]  Either this is intentional, which a lot of people think it was because it's too many machines happening all at once, or this is just pure incompetence and like happenstance.
[00:32:02]  But like, the reality is this, that's why we have to get Abe through so he can investigate this.
[00:32:07]  I'll tell you this right now: the fact that there was 30% or more of the machines breaking up.
[00:32:13]  Until it's 48% of voting centers now.
[00:32:16]  Yeah, almost half the voting centers were infected.
[00:32:18]  I mean, this is massive.
[00:32:20]  And a judge not wanting to keep the polls open an extra hour on election day.
[00:32:24]  No, and Mark Kelly intervenes and says, no.
[00:32:28]  Mark Kelly says, no, please don't.
[00:32:29]  Don't let them vote more.
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[00:34:04]  Now we got to talk about what to do.
[00:34:06]  Look, Tyler, a lot of people are doom and gloom.
[00:34:09]  We have to now recommit ourselves to these efforts.
[00:34:12]  And if we thought they were going to hand the country back, I mean, come on.
[00:34:17]  No, guys, we have to go 10 times harder here.
[00:34:19]  All right.
[00:34:20]  Like anything that you've learned this week and you saw what we don't need is more people out there saying, voting doesn't matter.
[00:34:30]  Like, my impact doesn't matter.
[00:34:33]  That's such a beta energy.
[00:34:34]  It really is.
[00:34:35]  It's nothing but beta energy.
[00:34:37]  And like the, I told you so that they cheat and there's nothing you can do.
[00:34:42]  Like, what kind of message is that?
[00:34:44]  Like, okay, leave the, why didn't you leave the country already then, by the way?
[00:34:47]  Like, what are you doing here still?
[00:34:49]  Yep.
[00:34:49]  Like, the energy is this: that it was, we almost overcame what we believe is a lot of manipulation.
[00:34:57]  And the whole plan here in Arizona was to overcome that with Carrie because they all could actually get fixed with Carrie.
[00:35:03]  And that was the track that we were on.
[00:35:05]  The fact is, is that we came up short.
[00:35:07]  What does that mean?
[00:35:08]  We can't ever come up short again.
[00:35:10]  We have to work harder.
[00:35:11]  We have to reinvent ourselves constantly.
[00:35:14]  And what we're doing, what we're already talking about, how can we create new processes in order to make sure that we are getting the ballots that we need to get?
[00:35:23]  Yes.
[00:35:24]  How do we still change the laws now working around a Katie Hobbes?
[00:35:30]  How does an Abe Hamadai getting elected?
[00:35:33]  How can he impact the legislature and work with the legislature to kind of work around Katie Hobbes?
[00:35:40]  So Thomas Paine famously wrote, everyone knows this line.
[00:35:43]  These are the times that try men's souls, but they forget the next line.
[00:35:47]  The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country.
[00:35:53]  But he that stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
[00:35:58]  Tyranny like hell is not easily conquered, yet have this consolation with us.
[00:36:03]  The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.
[00:36:06]  And there was never a more clear depiction of that than this week when we were chasing ballots for curing.
[00:36:11]  Yes, they're sunshine patriots.
[00:36:13]  They don't want to work.
[00:36:14]  There were sunshine patriots who were there that were like at the party going, yeah, Carrie's winning by 10 points.
[00:36:20]  She's going to win.
[00:36:21]  And we were super, we were talking about this.
[00:36:23]  We were super bullish.
[00:36:25]  Carrie lost essentially right now how they've tabulated, how they've tabulated.
[00:36:30]  If you believe, you know, that everything is come in and it's kosher and legit.
[00:36:36]  She lost essentially independence.
[00:36:38]  It's hard to believe, man.
[00:36:39]  On day of drop-offs, not day of election.
[00:36:42]  But that's still a 20-point drop.
[00:36:44]  Like, like she, she, I said this, and we said this.
[00:36:47]  We said she would have to take why we feel so comfortable about Kerry.
[00:36:50]  She would have to underperform Trump significantly and herself, who she was overperforming.
[00:36:56]  With more people dropping off.
[00:36:58]  So, I mean, clear, so what does that mean?
[00:37:00]  Like, let's break that down real simple.
[00:37:02]  What I think it means is that Democrats knew they were underwater significantly heading into election day because they weren't hitting their numbers.
[00:37:08]  They weren't hitting their numbers.
[00:37:10]  And those last final weeks, they made an absolute push to make sure they got drop-offs at the polling place.
[00:37:17]  That last week that you can't mail in your ballot, they spent that whole week just like going and picking up individual ballots and getting driving people to get picking the ballot.
[00:37:25]  And Charlie was like, how do you do that?
[00:37:26]  Well, you know, you could have like 500 people on staff for like $25 million, guys.
[00:37:32]  Like that's not for a whole year.
[00:37:34]  Like that's not that much money compared to what Mark Kelly raised.
[00:37:39]  See, when you look at the whole nut that was raised in Arizona by Democrats, they probably had hundreds and hundreds of under the cover people that were just working to collect ballots.
[00:37:52]  And they said, you know what?
[00:37:53]  I don't want you to post on the internet.
[00:37:55]  I don't want you to talk about things.
[00:37:56]  I don't want you to show up to a rally.
[00:37:57]  Yes.
[00:37:58]  You know, we don't need that.
[00:37:59]  What we need you to do.
[00:38:00]  It's just so crazy.
[00:38:01]  What we need you to do, you have responsibility for 500 ballots.
[00:38:04]  And if you don't get there, we're going to kill you.
[00:38:06]  That's what they do.
[00:38:07]  Yes.
[00:38:08]  And by the way, we're doing rallies and like trying to communicate to voters.
[00:38:11]  They're chasing ballots.
[00:38:12]  Yeah, we're just chasing ballots.
[00:38:13]  We're doing the right thing, which is like try to get the build consensus.
[00:38:16]  Like build, like get people behind people.
[00:38:18]  And that works to an extent, right?
[00:38:20]  But what Democrats matters less and less every cycle.
[00:38:23]  What Democrats have put all their chips into is they said that that doesn't matter.
[00:38:27]  What matters is picking up every individual ballot.
[00:38:30]  And guess what, guys?
[00:38:31]  They're right.
[00:38:32]  You know, this, this election, this, this election, even if we won by 1%, they would have still been right.
[00:38:40]  And the reason is, is this, is that Katie Howes is such a bad candidate.
[00:38:43]  She didn't debate.
[00:38:44]  She wasn't a public.
[00:38:44]  And she's going to be a bad governor.
[00:38:46]  She wasn't an awful governor if she becomes governor.
[00:38:48]  She wasn't holding rallies.
[00:38:49]  She wasn't holding, you know, come talk to me and ask me questions and find out what I think.
[00:38:54]  This is why she's going to be a bad governor.
[00:38:56]  But what they have proven is that that is all they have to do.
[00:38:59]  So guess what we have to do?
[00:39:01]  We have to put all of our time, effort, and resources into that same thing.
[00:39:05]  I agree.
[00:39:06]  Everybody, email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:39:08]  It is not the sunshine patriot that matters.
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