The Charlie Kirk Show - Why the Church is Still the Answer—LIVE at Valley Assembly Church in Spokane
Aired: 2022-11-20
Duration: 01:23:44


=== Separation of Church and State (14:57) ===

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[00:00:57]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:59]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:01:01]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:01:04]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:01:07]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:01:08]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:01:09]  His spirit, his love of this country.
[00:01:11]  He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:01:18]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:27]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:30]  What a warm welcome.
[00:01:31]  Thank you.
[00:01:31]  Wow.
[00:01:32]  That was amazing.
[00:01:33]  I wish that would happen on Sunday morning every once in a while.
[00:01:37]  Amen.
[00:01:38]  So a couple things.
[00:01:39]  You have a new book out called The College Scam.
[00:01:41]  I do.
[00:01:42]  Yes.
[00:01:42]  It's an amazing book.
[00:01:44]  I know you're going to plug it later, but I just want to tell you we have copies for you.
[00:01:48]  Take it, get it, hold of it, and he'll give you all the details in just a few moments.
[00:01:53]  Yeah.
[00:01:53]  I thought we'd start out by you introducing your wife.
[00:01:56]  She's right here.
[00:01:57]  Stand up, Erica.
[00:01:59]  Yeah.
[00:02:06]  Now you have a new baby.
[00:02:07]  We do.
[00:02:08]  Tell us about that.
[00:02:09]  Oh, I mean, it changes your whole life.
[00:02:11]  It's incredible.
[00:02:12]  Erica did so amazing 10 weeks ago.
[00:02:15]  Is that right?
[00:02:15]  We're at nine and a half, nine and a half weeks.
[00:02:18]  And we're just so blessed.
[00:02:20]  And it really gives you a whole nother level of commitment to the fight.
[00:02:26]  Because I tell you, when you look into the next generation and you see what these bad guys want to do to kids and young people across the country, yeah, it makes you want to go Old Testament really quickly.
[00:02:38]  I'll tell you what.
[00:02:44]  So Charlie, I happen to have four kids and a grandkid.
[00:02:46]  And I'll just tell you, you're in the easiest part right now.
[00:02:50]  There's going to come a season where you just want to put them in a box and then open the box up later and say surprise.
[00:02:55]  So what I thought we would do for our time of discussion is I wanted to take a big 40,000 view of globalism versus nationalism.
[00:03:04]  And then I want to boil that down to the local level.
[00:03:07]  And there's a reason why I want to do that.
[00:03:09]  I've been involved lately in our community.
[00:03:12]  And as I've been involved in the community, and now they've identified me with you, I've had this number one question.
[00:03:17]  Brian, are you a Christian nationalist?
[00:03:21]  And so I was like, at first, I was like, I'm a Christian that lives in a nation.
[00:03:26]  I'm a Christian that lives in a nation that believes that we have borders.
[00:03:29]  But I wasn't sure why you gave me that title indirectly.
[00:03:32]  So I thought you could explain Christianity.
[00:03:35]  They tied us together.
[00:03:37]  And so, first of all, thank you for wonderfully hosting us.
[00:03:39]  This is amazing.
[00:03:40]  I love this part of the world, you guys.
[00:03:43]  I love Spokane.
[00:03:46]  I love Court d'Alane.
[00:03:47]  I'm sure we have some people from Idaho here.
[00:03:48]  It's great.
[00:03:49]  Love Idaho.
[00:03:50]  We're going to talk about Idaho in a little bit, by the way, later on in the conversation.
[00:03:53]  So look, this is meant to be a slur.
[00:03:56]  It's meant to be a pejorative.
[00:03:57]  It's meant to scare people.
[00:03:59]  Like, oh, you're a Christian nationalist.
[00:04:00]  And so let's slow down and talk about the terms.
[00:04:03]  First of all, Christian.
[00:04:05]  Oh, yes, I'm a Christian, and I'm proud to be a Christian.
[00:04:08]  I'm thankful to be a Christian.
[00:04:10]  And we should never enter a place where anyone is afraid to talk about their faith and talk about what Jesus means to them.
[00:04:17]  And, you know, being a Christian in modern America, it's as if you're allowed to have certain Christian views, but you can't even comment about politics.
[00:04:24]  Now, they've added that extra word nationalist because they're trying to fear-monger people to say, Well, they're going to impose all their morality on you.
[00:04:33]  Like, hold on, slow down.
[00:04:34]  Let's talk about what a nationalist.
[00:04:35]  The nationalist is, it's this simple: someone who loves their country, appreciates their history, understands their culture, and wants that country to continue to exist and thrive for their kids and grandkids.
[00:04:47]  That is a very simple, and by the way, that's a moral good.
[00:04:53]  So, you put those two words together, Christian nationalist.
[00:04:55]  I accept both.
[00:04:56]  Now, what they're trying to say, though, is they're trying to say, Those Christians are going to take over our government and destroy separation of church and state.
[00:05:03]  Like, hold on a second.
[00:05:04]  Separation of church and state is not in the Constitution, it's not in the Declaration, it's not in the Federalist Papers.
[00:05:10]  It's written by a single letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Convention, where he was actually giving an assurance to the Danbury Baptist Convention that the government would not come after them.
[00:05:21]  Now, this was then used by the Warren Court and the Burger Court in the 1960s and 70s to get rid of prayer in schools.
[00:05:27]  We never should have got rid of prayer in schools.
[00:05:29]  It was one of the worst decisions ever made.
[00:05:32]  By the way, it wasn't even a Christian prayer that got removed from schools by the Supreme Court, it was a very universalist theist prayer.
[00:05:40]  However, they're always going after separation of church and state, and they're trying to fear-monger to people that might be in the middle or independents.
[00:05:47]  But hold on a second, let's pretend separation of church and state was the law of the land.
[00:05:51]  Let's accept the bad premise.
[00:05:53]  Let's act as if that is true.
[00:05:55]  Then, why on earth was the state able to come into the church during the lockdowns?
[00:06:02]  Why was the government able to say that churches are not essential?
[00:06:06]  I thought they're supposed to be separate.
[00:06:08]  Oh, wait, so you could say a strip club is essential and the church is not.
[00:06:12]  You could take Easter and Pentecost away from us.
[00:06:14]  You could make a liquor store, Walmart, Home Depot remain open, or abortion factories continue.
[00:06:19]  But if you want to spread the word of God, we're going to shut you down, fine you, and make you wear masks.
[00:06:23]  Oh, no, it's not separation of church and state.
[00:06:25]  It's we want Christians to stay in their corner.
[00:06:28]  That's what this is all about.
[00:06:30]  And so, it's a mass fear-mongering campaign that we as Christians should not accept debate.
[00:06:34]  Do not take the bait.
[00:06:36]  This is very, very important.
[00:06:37]  And guess what?
[00:06:37]  You know why they have to use these pejoratives and these slanders and these slurs?
[00:06:41]  Because they've done the math.
[00:06:42]  They know that even 10%, 15%, 20% more Christians got serious about their nation.
[00:06:48]  All of a sudden, the tables will be turned on these people overnight, and they'll be driven out of power quicker than you could imagine.
[00:06:55]  And so, they're trying to make you seem fearful to be engaged in politics, engaged in local government.
[00:07:00]  So, Christian, yes, nationalist, yes.
[00:07:03]  The way I describe it, I accept the label.
[00:07:09]  So, I think you did it a little bit more polite than I did.
[00:07:12]  I said, So, you must be a Christian globalist, is what I said to the Briggs Corner.
[00:07:16]  Well, and they go, What?
[00:07:17]  I said, Oh, so you have the spirit of antichrist instead of Christ.
[00:07:20]  They did not know what to do with that.
[00:07:22]  She wrote a very nice article, though.
[00:07:24]  Tying this together.
[00:07:25]  Well, can I just say one other thing?
[00:07:27]  That the idea of a nation is actually a biblical construct.
[00:07:31]  The idea that your power ends somewhere and starts somewhere is a biblical idea.
[00:07:36]  The idea of creating a one-world government, that's Genesis 11.
[00:07:39]  That's right.
[00:07:39]  That's what the Tower of Babel attempted to do, and God responded with chaos and confusion.
[00:07:44]  So, understand globalism is the forced conformity of secular ideas.
[00:07:49]  They want to have the forced immersion of every person on the planet under one way of government, one way of practice, which is hilarious because I'm always told that diversity is our strength.
[00:07:58]  Oh, wait, so diversity is our strength and we can't have different forms of government.
[00:08:02]  For example, the United States should be able to say, get out of our country, UN, get up our country, World Economic Forum.
[00:08:07]  We're going to be able to govern ourselves.
[00:08:14]  Have you ever noticed like globalists tend to have the idea like the whole world is like Disneyland or something, like it's all going to go well.
[00:08:21]  But then everywhere that it's been attempted, whether we have Marxism or communism, it's like it goes to, I was raised on a farm, so I'm trying to figure out which words to use, but the manure, it goes to that kind of stuff.
[00:08:32]  Have you noticed that?
[00:08:33]  Like, I've traveled a little bit my life, and I've been to places where this has been attempted.
[00:08:37]  So start with the Communist Party.
[00:08:40]  Let's talk about globalism at that level, the World Economic Forum, and let's boil it down.
[00:08:44]  And I want to know, eventually when we land this point today, I want to know how is that affecting our curriculum and our local community?
[00:08:50]  It's affecting all of it because some of these can seem like far off distant concepts.
[00:08:54]  And just so we understand, the farm aspect is really important.
[00:08:57]  If you have any farmers here, you guys are in the crosshairs of the World Economic Forum.
[00:09:01]  I cannot tell you how big of a threat you are to them.
[00:09:05]  When we talk about food supply, we talk about what is necessary for the survival of the human species.
[00:09:10]  They are going after buying farmland.
[00:09:11]  Bill Gates is buying farmland.
[00:09:12]  The Chinese Communist Party is buying farmland.
[00:09:14]  We'll talk about that more as we go on.
[00:09:16]  I want to do a side note.
[00:09:17]  So I was with this other reporter, and they started talking about farms.
[00:09:19]  How many reporters do you talk about?
[00:09:21]  I know.
[00:09:21]  And so he started talking about farms.
[00:09:23]  I said, dude, see this grocery store we're sitting in?
[00:09:25]  That all comes from a farm.
[00:09:27]  And he's like, oh.
[00:09:30]  I'm thinking, I got a master's degree.
[00:09:32]  Come on, guy.
[00:09:33]  You got to know this comes from somewhere.
[00:09:34]  Anyways, back to the just like the energy just comes from the holes.
[00:09:38]  Yeah, it does.
[00:09:39]  It's just right there.
[00:09:40]  That's right.
[00:09:41]  And so, look, the World Economic Forum, let's try to define some terms, okay?
[00:09:46]  The World Economic Forum openly embraces globalism.
[00:09:49]  And as I mentioned, globalism is forced conformity of one culture, one currency, probably one language, but also to the deterioration of the Western Christian value system, okay?
[00:09:59]  That's what they find to be the biggest threat.
[00:10:01]  So the World Economic Forum, they meet once a year in Davos.
[00:10:03]  They have sessions ongoing.
[00:10:05]  They're politicians, they're economists, they're business leaders, they're billionaires.
[00:10:09]  Everyone from Klaus Schwab, who looks like a bond villain, to Justin Trudeau to Bill Gates.
[00:10:14]  They go and they exchange best practices.
[00:10:17]  Now, they wrote a book called COVID-19, The Great Reset.
[00:10:21]  I encourage you to read it yourself.
[00:10:23]  This is not a conspiracy theory.
[00:10:24]  They publish it in the book, which actually I think is their new strategy.
[00:10:28]  Their new strategy is actually to tell you everything they're going to do, and then the media doesn't report on it because it's not as interesting.
[00:10:33]  They're like, oh, yeah, we're going to have you own nothing and you're going to be happy.
[00:10:36]  It's on our website.
[00:10:37]  And you're like, oh, that's kind of a big deal.
[00:10:38]  New York Times.
[00:10:39]  Conspiracies are, it's on the website.
[00:10:41]  Like, they say you're going to own nothing and you'll be happy.
[00:10:44]  That's their goal.
[00:10:45]  To destroy private property, to eliminate the power of the American dollar, to obliterate our purchasing power, all these sorts of things.
[00:10:52]  So the World Economic Forum believes in a couple things, but it really is a metaphysical and spiritual belief where we as Christians believe in two main things.
[00:11:01]  Everyone here today, whether you're a Christian or not, you probably believe in these two things.
[00:11:05]  There is a God and we are not him.
[00:11:09]  Amen.
[00:11:11]  And those two things are rejected by the World Economic Forum.
[00:11:15]  That's right.
[00:11:16]  They don't believe there is a God.
[00:11:17]  If there was a God, it would be me.
[00:11:19]  And so that's the first defining characteristic.
[00:11:21]  So he wasn't meaning that like self-pointing.
[00:11:23]  He was using it as a...
[00:11:25]  I was pantomiming.
[00:11:27]  Like, if there was a God, it would be Klaus.
[00:11:31]  Oh, you should see some of the cuts.
[00:11:32]  Yeah, it's really great.
[00:11:35]  And yes, Justin Trudeau, all these people, they do not accept the idea that there is a God who is sovereign, that there is a God who designed and created the universe.
[00:11:44]  And then it goes into the question that is very fundamental, which is what is a human being?
[00:11:48]  So, we believe a human being is an image-bearer.
[00:11:51]  We believe a human being is designed for a purpose.
[00:11:53]  We believe the human being has a soul.
[00:11:55]  They believe the human being is an accident, literally, the accident of multiple millions of years of evolution.
[00:12:01]  Therefore, there's nothing unique about that human being or that human being.
[00:12:05]  We just have to try to figure out what is best for the common good.
[00:12:07]  If we have to get rid of half the human beings, that's fine.
[00:12:10]  And then they also elevate the environment as not being there for human flourishing, but instead, the environment is there to almost be supreme over humanity.
[00:12:18]  Now, these elements are really important because this is why the ideas of depopulation and the ideas that you start to see floated by people like Bill Gates and others, they all run to the World Economic Forum.
[00:12:30]  So, I'll give you three predictions that they have.
[00:12:32]  And these people have a lot of power.
[00:12:33]  They talk about staffing governments, they talk about taking over industry, and they've already done a good job of it.
[00:12:38]  As I mentioned, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
[00:12:41]  Now, actually, the scariest part of that prediction is the second part, which is like you're going to be happy.
[00:12:47]  Like, what if I'm not happy actually owning nothing?
[00:12:49]  Well, then we'll eliminate you.
[00:12:50]  I mean, that's kind of like the undertone.
[00:12:52]  It's incredibly totalitarian, like creepily totalitarian.
[00:12:56]  That doesn't make me very happy.
[00:12:57]  They eliminate it.
[00:12:59]  No, and so, yeah, being eliminated, exactly.
[00:13:01]  You won't be anywhere, you'll be in heaven, but that's about it.
[00:13:04]  So, the second thing, the second thing is Western values will be brought to its breaking point.
[00:13:11]  And the third thing is that America will no longer be the world's superpower.
[00:13:14]  So, these are the stated goals or predictions by the World Economic Forum.
[00:13:18]  Now, let's harp on one word called the great term, the great reset.
[00:13:22]  Now, in order to reset something, you have to first break it.
[00:13:26]  And you are living through the intentional breaking of the United States of America.
[00:13:29]  What I find to be very freeing and comforting about all this negative news is it actually helps make sense of all the otherwise very confusing information you see on the news.
[00:13:40]  You know, we do a podcast, and thank you for those of you that listen to our podcast and watch our show every day.
[00:13:44]  I'm Real America's Voice, we appreciate that.
[00:13:47]  And when we get emails and people email in, they say, Charlie, I never understood why they want the southern border open, why they want to inflate our currency, why they want crime on the streets.
[00:13:56]  All of that makes sense as soon as you put on the lens of the great reset, meaning you look at it through the eyes of global totalitarians that want to take over the world.
[00:14:06]  So, when you think about these environmental aspects, we think about transgender, we think about all these things, and it seems like it's a puzzle that's all in different pieces.
[00:14:15]  But what I'm hearing you say is when you start putting the puzzle pieces together, it's about power, it's about tyranny, it's about control, it's about resetting the mind.
[00:14:23]  And I'll tell you this: I was speaking the other day, and I was saying, you know, the greatest evidence that you're a boy or a girl is your plumbing.
[00:14:32]  That's how we say it on the forum.
[00:14:33]  Does that make sense?
[00:14:34]  Yeah, it makes sense.
[00:14:35]  And I got pushback from some evidentials about that.
[00:14:41]  I brought scientific evidence.
[00:14:42]  So, we were sitting there like kind of like in Romans, and we're like thinking, these people say that's good, good is bad, and bad is good.
[00:14:47]  And you're like, it's almost like you're crazy until you get that perspective that globalism is the goal, tyranny and control, and to shut the Christian church up is the goal.

=== Scientism as Religious Belief (03:16) ===

[00:14:57]  Yes, it's spiritual, right?
[00:14:59]  And this is why the church has to lead the charge against the World Economic Forum and lead the charge against the Great Reset because it is spiritual.
[00:15:06]  And it is Genesis 11, which is they're trying to create a structure, whether metaphorical or literal, to try to challenge God, right?
[00:15:17]  To try to grow to the heights to say that we are greater than God.
[00:15:20]  And so, this is, you look at every single one of these things.
[00:15:23]  Now, let's talk, we can talk about the transgender debate, which is not even a debate.
[00:15:26]  We can talk about the abortion issue, but all that has a commonality, right?
[00:15:30]  So, first, we got to take a step back.
[00:15:32]  The World Economic Forum embraces scientism.
[00:15:36]  Scientism is a religious belief.
[00:15:38]  Scientism is not the same as appreciating science.
[00:15:42]  Science, properly understood, is actually a Christian exercise.
[00:15:46]  The person who invented the scientific method, Sir Francis Bacon, was a Christian.
[00:15:50]  Sir Isaac Newton was also a Christian.
[00:15:52]  In fact, Newton wrote more about biblical prophecy in the book of Isaiah than he ever did about physics.
[00:15:58]  Now, if you understand science correctly, it is an inquiry or an exploration into the natural world to discover what God has designed so human beings can flourish.
[00:16:08]  That is science properly understood, okay?
[00:16:11]  Science properly understood allows debate or disagreement or dissension.
[00:16:16]  It allows conversation.
[00:16:17]  Scientism is completely different.
[00:16:20]  Scientism is not the exploration of the natural world.
[00:16:23]  It's about the domination of the natural world.
[00:16:26]  It's about my will above what already exists.
[00:16:28]  They won't even admit it's designed, right?
[00:16:31]  That is exhibited in the abortion debate.
[00:16:33]  My will over that being.
[00:16:35]  I have the technology to crush and dismember a baby in the womb.
[00:16:38]  We should be able to do it.
[00:16:39]  I have the ability and the technology to turn a 12-year-old boy into a girl, which you can't, but they try to get close through Lupron and surgery.
[00:16:46]  I can do it.
[00:16:47]  It's about the will over nature, because that is what a God would do.
[00:16:52]  And they see themselves as quasi-deities.
[00:16:55]  Now, to complete the point, though, you internationalize this, right?
[00:16:58]  They then want their own council of scientific experts.
[00:17:02]  And scientism, by the way, which is a term I hope all of you get very familiar with, is necessarily totalitarian.
[00:17:08]  It always ends to be totalitarian.
[00:17:10]  Why?
[00:17:10]  We lived through it with Fauci and all these other people.
[00:17:13]  Because disagreement is not allowed, and you can only listen to their scientists.
[00:17:18]  You can't bring people like Dr. Malone or Dr. McCullough or all these amazing rock stars.
[00:17:23]  No, no, no, because they disagree with their scientific community, but they actually don't want the preservation of the scientific method.
[00:17:33]  They want a very specific political goal and they're willing to use the badge, hey, I'm wearing the uniform of science to help them get there.
[00:17:41]  Now, the World Economic Forum is driven by a lot of scientists.
[00:17:45]  Scientists in economics, scientists in biology, in transhumanism, all these different things.
[00:17:51]  More people died in the 20th century because of scientism than almost any other belief system.
[00:17:56]  And yes, it was Marxism, it was communism, but you look at the idea of I'm going to use technology to crush the human being.
[00:18:03]  That's how you get concentration camps.
[00:18:05]  That's how you get eugenics.
[00:18:07]  That's how you get forced famines that Joseph Stalin used in Ukraine, all across Europe, Eastern Europe, I should say.

=== Dangers of Pseudo-Science (13:06) ===

[00:18:13]  And so you put all this together.
[00:18:15]  If you have the urge to use technology to then be able to suppress the human condition and then to get people to doubt what God has told them, that is transparently demonic, everybody.
[00:18:28]  And that's exactly what is unfolding.
[00:18:30]  And this is why I tell the church you cannot outsource your activism to the secular world.
[00:18:35]  If you're involved in a spiritual battle, why are we letting the secular world fight it for us?
[00:18:50]  You know, I'm thinking about the Ten Commandments.
[00:18:52]  The first commandment is that you should not have any other gods before you.
[00:18:56]  And I want to point out that includes you.
[00:18:59]  Look at your neighbor and say, you're just not that big of a deal.
[00:19:04]  I do that all the time.
[00:19:05]  And people laugh.
[00:19:06]  I don't know why.
[00:19:07]  But here's the thing.
[00:19:08]  The bigger the deal that you think you are, the more that you're going to enter into the wrong area and the wrong arena and how you fight this thing.
[00:19:16]  Church, we can applaud all we want, but if we don't get on our knees and pray against the spiritual forces, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, nothing will change.
[00:19:32]  We've mentioned Genesis 11 a few times.
[00:19:34]  This is now the whole earth used the same language and the same words.
[00:19:38]  Do you understand, church, that this is what they're doing?
[00:19:41]  And they're doing it through technology.
[00:19:43]  They're doing it.
[00:19:43]  I'll let you go on that.
[00:19:44]  Okay.
[00:19:45]  It came about, yeah, read Genesis 11.
[00:19:47]  It's awesome.
[00:19:48]  Okay, it came about as they journeyed east that they found a plain on the sea and settled there.
[00:19:53]  They said to one another, come, listen to this, come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly.
[00:20:00]  And they used brick to stone and they used tar for mortar, and they came, let us build for ourselves a city and a tower whose top will reach into the heavens.
[00:20:12]  And let us make ourselves a name.
[00:20:14]  Did you get that?
[00:20:15]  Let us make ourselves a name.
[00:20:17]  Otherwise, we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.
[00:20:21]  And this is why I want you to know: we cannot build our own way into heaven.
[00:20:26]  God will only rule and reign when he's ready to come back to rule and to reign.
[00:20:31]  And that is it.
[00:20:32]  No other gods before us.
[00:20:34]  No other things before us.
[00:20:36]  We need to turn to the living God and repent.
[00:20:40]  Amen.
[00:20:41]  And God scattered them into confusion because they wanted to build something that challenged his power and his incredible grace and who God is.
[00:20:54]  So look, I want to also reinforce this, though, that it could be very overwhelming at times for somebody to process all of this information.
[00:21:01]  World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, borderless and cashless society.
[00:21:06]  We're going to tie all this together, but we have to understand, and here's just a little bit of optimism and hope for you, and we'll kind of build this out throughout along the way, is that they are more confused than ever before.
[00:21:18]  The people that are in charge of the World Economic Forum, and you know who's confused them?
[00:21:21]  It's not the people of France.
[00:21:23]  It's not the people of Germany, because they've largely gone along with this.
[00:21:28]  They can't understand why the American people are continuing to fight and organize and show up and challenge tyranny.
[00:21:37]  They don't understand it because they thought that they would be able to demoralize you.
[00:21:41]  They thought through all these different actions and methods, the American spirit would be broken.
[00:21:45]  But in fact, the exact opposite has happened.
[00:21:48]  The more they have tried to impose their will on America, the more you have fought.
[00:21:51]  The more they have tried to go after your kids, the more you've gone to school board meetings, the more you've shown up to actually fight for the least of these in society.
[00:21:59]  And so we're going to continue to build this out.
[00:22:01]  But I'm telling you, the World Economic Forum is confused and paranoid that their time might be up very soon.
[00:22:16]  So when I was 18, I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.
[00:22:19]  And I noticed there was a transition when I was about 24 in the church that went from, I don't know, just a call of repentance to really pushing the church into seeker sensitivity and to, I do want to point out, though, I didn't wear my skinny jeans today because you've got better jeans than I am.
[00:22:38]  You've watched your game tape.
[00:22:41]  But this wokeness is coming to the church through political correctness, right?
[00:22:44]  Where I want you to address that issue in the church, and then I want to put that into the school because that's, in my mind, it's all globalism.
[00:22:51]  It's getting control of that language that we just read about, right?
[00:22:55]  We can get control of the language.
[00:22:56]  If we can just make sure everyone says the same things and take away that freedom, the First Amendment right that we have, then we will beat them.
[00:23:03]  And so I want you to think through that with me.
[00:23:06]  Yeah, so, I mean, first of all, I agree.
[00:23:08]  I think seeker sensitivity sounded like a good idea.
[00:23:12]  And then let's actually look at the results.
[00:23:14]  So vast majority of churches, I think, in America became in a posture of seeker sensitive.
[00:23:19]  So we have the least religious generation ever, least married generation, most depressed, most atheistic, most drug addicted, most suicidal generation history.
[00:23:28]  So how did that seeker sensitivity thing work out for you?
[00:23:30]  No, it turns out that Billy Graham, the way that he preached the gospel, which was yes, all are welcome, but you're going to get a dose of truth if you go to a Billy Graham revival, right?
[00:23:40]  He's going to say that sin no more and give your life to Christ.
[00:23:44]  Instead, it is this new phenomenon in the American church where it's kind of like a TED Talk meets a rock concert, and you're not really sure.
[00:23:52]  It's like they give this motivational speech, and then at the end, they say, and it says that in Philippians, have a great night.
[00:23:57]  Everybody's like, wait, what?
[00:23:58]  Okay, was that a sermon, or is that some sort of pseudo motivational kind of, I'm going to get your life back on track corporately or something, or get your business sorted out.
[00:24:09]  And it's failed miserably.
[00:24:10]  And the enemy took advantage of this because the enemy took advantage of it because weak pastors, cowardly pastors, and churches that quite honestly should have been more kind of in the mid-level marketing business than in the ministry were more likely than ever to just be like, well, you know, we're not really going to say that there's a right way or a wrong way to live, right?
[00:24:31]  And we just want everybody to come to the Lord.
[00:24:34]  And I think some people meant well when they did this, right?
[00:24:37]  But the results are horrific.
[00:24:39]  The results are, we are seeing every single number go down.
[00:24:43]  And an awakening or revival is always led by bold, courageous teaching.
[00:24:48]  Always.
[00:24:49]  It's not led by watering things down.
[00:24:51]  And so then someone says, well, Charlie, that sounds really harsh.
[00:24:54]  Well, first of all, it doesn't have to be.
[00:24:56]  Let's pretend it was harsh, okay?
[00:24:58]  Because I really don't care what people say much anymore, which is there are some harsh teachings, okay?
[00:25:04]  The idea that only some people go to heaven is necessarily harsh.
[00:25:09]  And you might not like the idea.
[00:25:11]  Well, they say, well, Jesus came to unite the world.
[00:25:14]  Where do you find that verse exactly?
[00:25:16]  I came not to unite, but to divide, it says in the book of Luke.
[00:25:21]  And they say, well, that's going to turn people off.
[00:25:25]  Okay?
[00:25:26]  It's the truth.
[00:25:29]  And so what's happened is the constant watering down of the gospel.
[00:25:33]  And by the way, you can still make it fun.
[00:25:35]  You can make it creative.
[00:25:36]  You can make it bold, right?
[00:25:38]  You can also make it in a way that people are interested in it.
[00:25:41]  But there has been this, it's the same thing that we see happening in our politics.
[00:25:46]  And I think it actually, you bring up a really smart point.
[00:25:49]  And I've actually never said it.
[00:25:50]  You did, yes.
[00:25:51]  I'll remember that for later.
[00:25:53]  So, is I actually think you're right that the church was on the leading edge of the political correctness tyranny.
[00:26:00]  And I've never actually thought of it that way.
[00:26:02]  And so what is political correctness?
[00:26:04]  Political correctness is all of us have to monitor our language and our decisions and our actions of what otherwise would be denormal because of a very small group of miserable people that can't deem to find anything that they find disagreeable, right?
[00:26:16]  That's what political correctness is.
[00:26:17]  Now, should you be intentionally cruel or harsh?
[00:26:21]  Never as a Christian.
[00:26:22]  But if you say something that is very transparently normal, for example, there's only two genders, and someone starts screaming in the corner, that's not your problem, that's their problem, actually, okay?
[00:26:34]  And so this is best.
[00:26:36]  And the church all of a sudden started to walk on eggshells because they say, and this is the other problem, is that kind of church growth models became very similar to corporate growth models where they say we need bigger budgets, bigger buildings, more baptisms, we need attractizing offerings with business precision.
[00:26:51]  We're going to borrow a bunch of money, right?
[00:26:53]  The American church saddled with that happened a lot.
[00:26:55]  And so when all of a sudden your business model is barely servicing a loan, you are going to be a little bit more careful, right?
[00:27:01]  Because you just got to get more people to the door.
[00:27:03]  And it doesn't matter.
[00:27:04]  So the American church, in some ways, and again, there's so many great pastors here tonight that deserve credit recognition.
[00:27:09]  I don't mean to loop them into this.
[00:27:10]  I mean, ask them a round of applause.
[00:27:12]  Yeah, so I'm talking more broadly, obviously, is that Jesus had to create disciples of all nations, not converts of all nations, right?
[00:27:23]  Discipleship goes deep and it takes time.
[00:27:25]  Converts are great.
[00:27:27]  We should try to win souls over.
[00:27:28]  But it's like, hey, I give my life to the Lord on Easter and you never hear from that person again.
[00:27:32]  Right?
[00:27:33]  There's a problem with that.
[00:27:35]  Okay.
[00:27:35]  And so how does this all connect together?
[00:27:38]  Well, political correctness, and I'll just give you kind of one example.
[00:27:42]  I was just at University of North Carolina, Charlotte.
[00:27:44]  I was just doing an event.
[00:27:46]  And so I have very strong opinions on the trans thing.
[00:27:49]  I don't actually believe that someone who says they are a man or a woman should be recognized as such, right?
[00:27:54]  I believe it's as God made you.
[00:27:55]  You have a mental delusion.
[00:27:57]  You should get medical treatment, be given compassion, but you are not a woman because you say you're a woman because you're a man.
[00:28:02]  And I'm not going to all of a sudden police my speech or my code of conduct around that nonsense.
[00:28:06]  I refuse to do that.
[00:28:08]  Okay?
[00:28:08]  And so what's interesting though is that that opinion is obviously not very popular.
[00:28:14]  The alphabet mafia comes after me all the time, right?
[00:28:17]  And these are pseudo-cultural terrorists.
[00:28:20]  I sure hope the media is here and they're writing this down.
[00:28:22]  They're pseudo-cultural terrorists, what they are.
[00:28:24]  And so I was at this.
[00:28:26]  We should spell that for them.
[00:28:27]  P-S- Yeah, there you go.
[00:28:29]  See, right now forgot the P. Pesudo, right?
[00:28:32]  Pesudo.
[00:28:32]  There you go.
[00:28:34]  And so there was this event I did at UNC Charlotte last week.
[00:28:37]  You guys might have saw some of the clips.
[00:28:38]  Some of them are going viral.
[00:28:39]  And this young lady comes up, and I think she meant well.
[00:28:41]  I really do.
[00:28:42]  I think she had good intentions.
[00:28:43]  But intentions are not everything.
[00:28:44]  In fact, intentions can lead you astray.
[00:28:46]  And she said, Charlie, I don't understand why you can't recognize what somebody else wants to say.
[00:28:53]  And what she was getting at is forced conformity, right?
[00:28:56]  And it's just basically, I refuse to tell a lie, right?
[00:28:59]  So if you're a man and I know you're a man, and then you say you're a woman, I'm not going to go along with it.
[00:29:03]  And then some people might say, well, what if they tricked you?
[00:29:05]  Okay, yeah, you wear a great costume.
[00:29:07]  Like, congratulations.
[00:29:08]  But the moment that I find out you're actually a man, I'm going to correct myself, right?
[00:29:12]  Just because you wear like the most deceiving costume in public doesn't mean always like, ooh, you got me.
[00:29:17]  Like, actually, no, you're a liar is what you are, okay?
[00:29:20]  And you all of a sudden are appropriating womanhood or appropriating manhood as you're taking something that is not yours.
[00:29:27]  Okay.
[00:29:27]  So, but what was interesting is that it was this whole controversy around Levine, who is the man who thinks he's a woman, who's in Rear Admiral to Health or whatever in the United States government of the United States Navy.
[00:29:39]  And so I got kicked off Twitter temporarily, by the way.
[00:29:41]  Love to do Twitter management.
[00:29:42]  Really fun.
[00:29:45]  Great.
[00:29:47]  By the way, Twitter is so much fun.
[00:29:49]  Now, did you see that?
[00:29:50]  I had this one tweet the other day where I just was like, you know, there are only two genders.
[00:29:54]  Abortion is murder.
[00:29:55]  The virus came from a lab.
[00:29:56]  The vaccine has killed some people.
[00:29:57]  And no one has touched me ever since I tweeted.
[00:29:59]  It's been the most amazing lockdown.
[00:30:05]  And so, but anyway, six months back, back when the Bolsheviks were controlling Twitter before it got liberated by my favorite African-American businessman.
[00:30:19]  I got kicked off Twitter.
[00:30:20]  That's a good one.
[00:30:21]  Thank you.
[00:30:23]  He's African-American.
[00:30:24]  I support African-American-owned businesses.
[00:30:27]  And you should too.
[00:30:28]  Or else you're a racist.
[00:30:29]  You're a terrible person.
[00:30:31]  And so I go back and I say very simply, Richard Levine, the name used to be Richard Levine.
[00:30:38]  That was his name.
[00:30:39]  And then changed the name to Rachel.
[00:30:41]  And so then I got kicked off of social media for dead naming.
[00:30:43]  So I'll speed up the story.
[00:30:44]  Dead naming is when you use the old name of somebody.
[00:30:47]  And so this young lady at the campus, the university, could not grasp the idea that I would use somebody's prior name, which of course is biographical information, right?
[00:30:55]  It's like saying Abraham used to be Abram or Muhammad Ali used to be Cassius Clay.
[00:30:59]  This is part of the biography.
[00:31:01]  It's a fact.
[00:31:02]  You can't eliminate history because someone's going to be so sensitive.
[00:31:05]  Like, I'm something else.
[00:31:05]  Actually, no, it used to be you.
[00:31:07]  And by the way, their whole, it's so hilarious is their identity is in trans.
[00:31:10]  So if your identity is in the transition, then can you forget what you claim it used to be?
[00:31:15]  Anyway, so, but what it got down to.
[00:31:18]  Wait a minute.
[00:31:19]  I just caught up.

=== From Tolerance to Oppression (05:00) ===

[00:31:20]  Okay, go ahead.
[00:31:20]  Thank you.
[00:31:21]  Yeah.
[00:31:24]  I actually haven't found very many people that speak faster than me, but I think I've met my match.
[00:31:29]  I'm slowing down for you.
[00:31:30]  Okay, thank you.
[00:31:31]  Thank you.
[00:31:32]  So what was the crux why I'm telling this story is that eventually it got to the place where she said you should be forced to use the name, forced to use the pronoun.
[00:31:44]  Now what's hilarious is she's like, because it's going to hurt other people's feelings.
[00:31:47]  Like, okay, so what's hilarious is that we don't get that right.
[00:31:51]  We don't get the right to say what we want, but we have to say what they want us because all of a sudden I'm going to be shattered and I might hurt myself.
[00:31:57]  And that's political correctness right there.
[00:31:59]  It is the tyranny of a vast minority that has no confidence, no centeredness, right, of who they are.
[00:32:06]  And the only way they're able to exist is police your actions and your behavior.
[00:32:09]  And I talk openly about this in the four steps of kind of modern liberalism, right?
[00:32:14]  Where this happened with the homosexual thing, happened with the transgender thing.
[00:32:17]  And I used to be pretty naive on some of these topics as well.
[00:32:20]  And I've talked openly about it where it's like, oh, well, can't we kind of show Christ's love and kind of like be okay with part of this?
[00:32:26]  And it's like, no, you got to stop it early or else it spreads like a pathogen, right?
[00:32:29]  And so it goes in four steps, okay?
[00:32:31]  So the first step is what they do is like, well, you must tolerate this.
[00:32:34]  My least favorite word is tolerance.
[00:32:36]  I can't stand it.
[00:32:37]  Okay.
[00:32:37]  We should never tolerate evil, period, okay?
[00:32:40]  We should not tolerate evil.
[00:32:43]  So first they say you must tolerate it.
[00:32:46]  You must tolerate it.
[00:32:47]  I'm going to tell you to tolerate it.
[00:32:48]  It's that great clip in Seinfeld, right?
[00:32:51]  Where he's doing the HIV walk.
[00:32:53]  It's like, where's your ribbon?
[00:32:54]  I don't want to wear the ribbon.
[00:32:55]  You must put the ribbon on.
[00:32:55]  It's like they're going to force you.
[00:32:56]  Okay.
[00:32:57]  Next is acceptance.
[00:32:58]  So it goes from tolerance to acceptance.
[00:33:00]  And so then they're like, well, do you agree that men can become women and men can become pregnant?
[00:33:04]  Well, no, I thought you wanted tolerance, which was us leave you alone.
[00:33:07]  No, no, no, now you must accept it verbally.
[00:33:09]  Tell us you accept it.
[00:33:11]  And then you're like, okay, that's kind of weird.
[00:33:12]  And then the third step comes and they're like, no, you must celebrate it.
[00:33:16]  Like, where's your gay pride flag outside your church?
[00:33:19]  I thought you said we have to tolerate it.
[00:33:20]  We're all going to leave each other alone.
[00:33:22]  No, no, you're a bigot if you don't have the flag.
[00:33:24]  Like, well, I don't believe in that.
[00:33:26]  And then the final thing is that they're going to force you to participate.
[00:33:30]  So it goes all the way from tolerance to acceptance to celebration to participation, like that.
[00:33:38]  Which is why if you don't fight early with truth, this thing spreads like a wildfire.
[00:33:50]  What we must realize is that there's such a thing as pathos, emotional truth to some, and logos, real truth.
[00:34:00]  My perception and your perception doesn't equal my truth and your truth.
[00:34:05]  There's one truth.
[00:34:07]  And it's important that we understand that if someone has, I think there's two things.
[00:34:13]  I'm going to try out a concept on you.
[00:34:14]  This is probably a horrible idea to do, okay?
[00:34:17]  But if someone has same-sex attraction or they want a transgender, I want you to know that Jesus Christ died on the cross for that.
[00:34:26]  He rose again that you may have newness of life.
[00:34:28]  And there's hope through the blood of Jesus Christ for newness of life.
[00:34:36]  Now, here's my concept I'm going to try out, and it may be a flop.
[00:34:39]  All right, are you ready?
[00:34:40]  Go ahead.
[00:34:41]  All right.
[00:34:41]  So in critical race theory, there's the oppressor and the oppressed.
[00:34:45]  And if we tell a whole generation that you're an oppressor, and the only way that you can get out of that group is by transitioning to something else that you can't change.
[00:34:53]  You can't change your skin color, but you can get body parts cut off.
[00:34:56]  You can get whatever else.
[00:34:57]  Is that a motivate?
[00:34:59]  Have you seen that to be a motivating factor?
[00:35:01]  Or do you think it goes back up to like something else?
[00:35:03]  Well, that's interesting.
[00:35:04]  You actually are onto something.
[00:35:05]  Congratulations and formulating that.
[00:35:07]  So that's pretty good.
[00:35:09]  So what you're getting at, though, is if you are all of a sudden receiving a lot of ridicule and hatred as being low on the oppression Olympics hierarchy, right?
[00:35:20]  It's the numbers system.
[00:35:21]  Yeah, so the way it works on college campuses, right, is there's the oppression Olympics, right?
[00:35:26]  Whoever is the most oppressed gets the most medals, handouts, and gets the most privileges, right?
[00:35:30]  So I'm at the bottom of the list, like white, Christian, you know, ableist, like man, father, you know, all that sort of stuff.
[00:35:37]  You can't be any of that stuff.
[00:35:38]  You got to go to the back of the line.
[00:35:39]  It's reverse discrimination, reverse oppression, right?
[00:35:42]  And white Christian men are the worst thing you could possibly be.
[00:35:44]  It drives them nuts.
[00:35:46]  Now, it's interesting, though, that if you wanted to move up in the oppression Olympics hierarchy, the way you could cut to the front of the line is all of a sudden just chop off your private parts, right?
[00:35:55]  Is that you could go immediately from a white man to all of a sudden to a transitioned woman, and you're all of a sudden, you're the grand marshal of the oppression parade, right?
[00:36:03]  You're marching in the streets.
[00:36:05]  You become really important really quickly.
[00:36:06]  And so that's why I'm thinking some of them are pushing for this.
[00:36:09]  We're pushing for that because their emotional truth is such, they can't handle that.
[00:36:13]  They can't handle that.
[00:36:14]  And by the way, I should tell you that my death threat that I had last night was from a transgender person.
[00:36:19]  Very tolerant of me.

=== Adults Cannot Handle This (02:45) ===

[00:36:20]  Yeah, right.
[00:36:21]  And that's not a joke, by the way.
[00:36:22]  I'm being serious.
[00:36:23]  They left a message.
[00:36:24]  And I want that person to know, if they're listening, I want you to know that I forgive you and that there's hope through Jesus Christ.
[00:36:31]  Amen.
[00:36:33]  Thank you.
[00:36:35]  That's awesome.
[00:36:37]  So is that what you're seeing on the college campuses?
[00:36:40]  Or is it the curriculum that's pushing people this?
[00:36:42]  Or give me like kind of like a expert.
[00:36:44]  Yeah, I mean, it's a mess, right?
[00:36:46]  It's a generation that's starving for truth.
[00:36:48]  As I've mentioned, it's the most lied-to-generation, the most controlled generation.
[00:36:52]  I went through the kind of phrase earlier, most depressed, most suicidal, most psychiatric drug-addicted, most drug-addicted, most alcohol-addicted, least religious generation, least likely to get married, and least children ever being born in American history.
[00:37:05]  Besides that, everything's great, right?
[00:37:06]  And I will say, though, and this is a little more broad, that there must be an acknowledgement by anyone over the age of 30 that part of the reason they're depressed and suicidal and all this is actually not all their fault.
[00:37:20]  We did this to them as well, okay?
[00:37:22]  The lockdowns will go down as one of the worst mistakes done in American history.
[00:37:27]  And it was wrong from the beginning.
[00:37:29]  And what we have seen is a generation with speech impediments, speech delays, the math and reading scores, and the carnage of that decision is still being experienced.
[00:37:38]  And if the response is like, oh, tough love, get over it, I don't think that's the right response.
[00:37:45]  I don't.
[00:37:46]  It was intergenerational robbery, is what it was.
[00:37:49]  Was that we want to live an extra 10 or 15 years.
[00:37:52]  We don't care if the 14-year-old has to stay at home and stare at a screen all day long.
[00:37:56]  It was immoral from the beginning, and we should make sure it never happens again in American society.
[00:38:01]  It was a very, I'm going to say something that will make headlines, okay?
[00:38:09]  It was an inverse, it was a perverse form of child sacrifice, is what it was.
[00:38:15]  And that's the only way you could explain it.
[00:38:17]  You might say, Charlie, that's not true.
[00:38:19]  Oh, yeah.
[00:38:19]  How many people under the age of 20 have died from fentanyl overdoses and suicide because of the lockdowns?
[00:38:25]  We've seen an increase across the board with this.
[00:38:27]  And what was the argument?
[00:38:28]  Well, it's not that the kids are going to get it.
[00:38:29]  It's that they might spread it to adults.
[00:38:31]  A society that is morally centered says the adults will take the bullet for the kids.
[00:38:37]  We did the opposite.
[00:38:40]  We had the kids take the bullet for the adults.
[00:38:42]  Who does that?
[00:38:44]  An increasingly secular country, that's unbelievably selfish.
[00:38:48]  And by the way, some people said, well, you might infect grandma.
[00:38:51]  Okay, well, you could quarantine grandma, obviously.
[00:38:55]  Obviously, the virus is a real threat to real people.
[00:38:57]  But still, I grew up believing that the older generation would do whatever it took to make sure their kids and grandkids would have a better future.

=== Colleges Fuel Socialism (07:54) ===

[00:39:05]  And we did the opposite, okay?
[00:39:10]  I want to read this to you.
[00:39:11]  It says, by faith, Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter.
[00:39:16]  And I want you to hear this if you're a believer in the room.
[00:39:19]  Choosing rather to endure the ill treatment with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin.
[00:39:29]  Considering the reproach of Christ, greater riches.
[00:39:34]  Hear this out for a onek holders.
[00:39:36]  Greater riches than the treasures of Egypt, for he was looking forward to his reward.
[00:39:44]  And I think we're living in a time and day, Charlie, where many people are looking for the passing pleasures, whether it's porn, whether it's being accepted, whether it's their emotional truth.
[00:39:54]  And I will tell you that one day you'll stand before the living God.
[00:39:56]  This is not a threat, it's just a reality.
[00:39:59]  And you'll give an account.
[00:40:00]  And guess what?
[00:40:01]  Charlie won't be there for your time.
[00:40:04]  I won't be there for my time.
[00:40:05]  I'll be there for my time, I'll tell you.
[00:40:08]  We'll be there individually, is what I'm trying to say.
[00:40:11]  And we'll give an account to God.
[00:40:13]  And that's not to make you afraid.
[00:40:15]  That is to get you to be real with yourself and say, what am I looking at?
[00:40:18]  Because I think in the small ways in the Christian church, it's easy to look at these places where evil are beginning to thrive and say, well, I'm not doing that.
[00:40:26]  And what we do is we value our evil as less than the evil that's happening in the world.
[00:40:33]  And we need to each turn to our living God and say, God, forgive us.
[00:40:38]  Jesus, forgive us.
[00:40:40]  So, Charlie, talk to us about the school system.
[00:40:48]  I know you wrote this book, The College Scam.
[00:40:51]  And I want to know about the indoctrination that's happening in our schools.
[00:40:55]  Has it hit all across public schools?
[00:40:57]  Has it not hit?
[00:40:58]  What have you seen?
[00:41:00]  Are there pockets where it seems to be okay?
[00:41:03]  And just give us some updates on the schools.
[00:41:05]  Sure.
[00:41:05]  I think we have a setup outside a booth afterwards.
[00:41:08]  Am I right?
[00:41:09]  I think so.
[00:41:09]  Yeah.
[00:41:09]  So we have a cool offer for you guys.
[00:41:11]  I know inflation is crushing a lot of people.
[00:41:13]  So if you guys, after the event, once we're done, for a gift of any amount, $5, $10, whatever, you guys get both books.
[00:41:20]  My book, The College Scam, hardcover, and also The American Response to The Great Reset.
[00:41:24]  We want that because we want this in your hands.
[00:41:26]  I actually think that'll bless you.
[00:41:27]  And also, I can't stand when people are like, my book is $45.
[00:41:30]  Like, okay, great.
[00:41:32]  I mean, this is my heart is to have everyone leave with a copy of this book and actually read it.
[00:41:37]  So give what you can.
[00:41:38]  If you can give more, all the proceeds go to Turning Point USA.
[00:41:41]  If you're getting crushed right now by inflation, totally get it.
[00:41:43]  Give a dollar.
[00:41:44]  And we hope it blesses you.
[00:41:45]  Okay, so that there's a table out there that you guys can go to.
[00:41:49]  Okay.
[00:41:50]  So, and also the book, The American Response to the Great Reset as well, which I think is one of the best little books we've published.
[00:41:56]  Okay, yeah, so I wrote this book, indicting college, almost as a prosecutor.
[00:42:01]  I think that one of the great deceptions of our time that churches engage in too much is sending our amazing young Christians into a four-year secular environment and having no idea what is going to come out on the other end.
[00:42:15]  This book is very well cited, 35 pages of footnotes.
[00:42:18]  Took me five years to put together.
[00:42:20]  The arguments I make have yet to be refuted or challenged by anybody from the college industry.
[00:42:25]  They're welcome to come on my show anytime.
[00:42:27]  We can have a nice spirited debate about it.
[00:42:29]  But it's very simple.
[00:42:30]  It's that 41% of people that enter college will end up not graduating.
[00:42:34]  And the vast majority of people, if they do graduate, will end up getting a job that does not require a college degree.
[00:42:39]  College is directly beneficial, directly related, I should say, directly correlated with the a religiosity in our country, the rise of socialism, Marxism.
[00:42:49]  Pick any idea that you want.
[00:42:50]  The idea that Joe Biden says that it's birthing people, not women.
[00:42:54]  How about the idea that the Navy says men can become pregnant?
[00:42:56]  How about the idea that Coca-Cola says that whiteness is applied to our society?
[00:43:00]  How about the idea that United Airlines says they're going to hire half of their new pilots to be non-white pilots?
[00:43:05]  Where do all these ideas come from?
[00:43:07]  College campuses.
[00:43:08]  You are subsidized with your taxpayer dollars, with your kids, with your alumni donations.
[00:43:12]  And I'm trying to be as provocative but true.
[00:43:15]  I don't say anything in this book, nor do I say it in the title, that I can't defend with facts and with logic, that the colleges are destroying the country from within.
[00:43:24]  And that might be too much for you.
[00:43:26]  Like, oh, my college is great.
[00:43:28]  Okay, well, if you went to Hillsdale, I completely agree.
[00:43:30]  Hillsdale is a great school.
[00:43:32]  You guys should support Hillsdale, or maybe send your kids to Hillsdale.
[00:43:34]  They do a great job.
[00:43:36]  I'm sure there are some good Bible colleges in this part of the world.
[00:43:39]  I'm sure.
[00:43:39]  However, let's be honest: 98% of all schools are completely and totally broken.
[00:43:44]  And it's not just the colleges, it's the elementary schools, it's the middle schools, it's the high schools.
[00:43:49]  And you might say, well, Charlie, that's just the government schools.
[00:43:51]  No, no, no, no.
[00:43:52]  The private Christian schools are sometimes even worse than the government schools.
[00:43:57]  And so what is this?
[00:43:58]  It is postmodernism, post-structuralism, all these different ideas, anti-Americanism that we kind of label in this blank, this bucket term, wokeism, that has found itself into the American place of higher education, which is exactly why homeschooling has doubled in the last two years, which is amazing.
[00:44:17]  So great to see.
[00:44:19]  And parents are starting to finally push back.
[00:44:21]  So they say, well, Charlie, what does that mean?
[00:44:23]  It means, look, if you send your kid to college, you're going to play rush and with their values.
[00:44:27]  At Turning Point USA, we have 135,000 people that donate to our organization.
[00:44:31]  Amazing.
[00:44:32]  Praise God.
[00:44:33]  I get letters every day from people.
[00:44:35]  Charlie, I wish I never would have sent my kid to college.
[00:44:37]  They won't talk to me.
[00:44:38]  They won't honor me.
[00:44:39]  They won't let me see my kids.
[00:44:40]  They're atheists.
[00:44:41]  They're socialists.
[00:44:42]  They grew up in a homeschooled Christian environment.
[00:44:44]  But I thought it would be a good idea to send them to Wazoo or UW or University of Oregon or CU or whatever.
[00:44:50]  And next thing you know, they have a completely different value system.
[00:44:53]  So just be careful.
[00:44:54]  And by the way, what are you getting in return?
[00:44:55]  An overly inflated piece of paper?
[00:44:58]  What is the value proposition?
[00:44:59]  Well, Charlie, I want my kid to be a doctor, my doctor.
[00:45:02]  I want my kid to be a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant.
[00:45:05]  Okay, fine.
[00:45:06]  But it's a risk.
[00:45:07]  Everything in life is a risk.
[00:45:08]  I think that if we had far less kids going to college, more kids taking gap years, as one of the pastors mentioned earlier, we need more people in the muscular class of our country, plumbers, electricians, welders, people in the HPHC trades.
[00:45:23]  And by the way, it's all interconnected.
[00:45:26]  Our elites deindustrialized our economy by sending all our factories to China, then convincing people there's no more muscular work.
[00:45:33]  So go to a four-year Marxist institution to go learn to hate yourself and hate the country.
[00:45:37]  And then we staff all our corporations with those very same people because we shipped all our jobs overseas.
[00:45:42]  It's all interconnected under kind of this terror of neoliberalism.
[00:45:46]  Can you escape college not a communist?
[00:45:49]  Of course you can.
[00:45:50]  Can you escape college, you know, loving the Lord?
[00:45:52]  Of course you can.
[00:45:53]  But the odds and the risk is something that most families have no idea.
[00:45:58]  And we kind of say, well, my kid has to go to college.
[00:46:01]  No, your kid doesn't.
[00:46:02]  And I'll say one final thing to the parents out there.
[00:46:04]  I didn't go to college.
[00:46:05]  I think it's working out for me.
[00:46:06]  The jury's still out.
[00:46:07]  But I'll say one last thing.
[00:46:11]  The number one reason kids go to college is because their parents force them to.
[00:46:16]  And because parents live vicariously through their kids, because they're afraid to tell their cousin, their sister, their neighbor that little Johnny's becoming a plumber.
[00:46:26]  No person in upper middle class society is proud if their kid becomes a plumber.
[00:46:30]  Let's be honest.
[00:46:31]  They're proud if their kid becomes a Marxist at Washington State University.
[00:46:34]  That's a big deal.
[00:46:36]  But all of a sudden you're deemed as a failure in upper middle class society in America if your kid doesn't go to a four-year college.
[00:46:42]  You know, one of the things that I have a lot of my boys entering into the 18, 20, and I think we do a disservice when we're constantly nagging them.
[00:46:54]  Like everyone's asking them, so what college are you going to go to?
[00:46:56]  Where are you going to go to?
[00:46:56]  It's so wrong.
[00:46:57]  You know what?
[00:46:58]  I think that I don't mind if you ask.

=== Call for Unified Action (15:45) ===

[00:47:00]  I mean, I'm just going to smile.
[00:47:01]  But in my head, this is how I'm judging you.
[00:47:07]  I'm thinking, you know what?
[00:47:09]  Why would, if I'm not willing to go to the butcher, why would I send my kid to the butcher?
[00:47:16]  Think about that for a moment.
[00:47:18]  And what I'm saying is, I'd rather my kids be on course with God and do whatever they call, whether that's working at the coffee shop, whether that's being a janitor, whether that's being a truck driver, whether that, whatever.
[00:47:31]  I'd rather see them in heaven than have them have a four-year degree.
[00:47:41]  So, Charlie, we have about two minutes, so I'm going to give some instructions to the audience.
[00:47:46]  We have some question and answer time, and it's on a mic that's going to be right over here.
[00:47:50]  You're going to look into this camera right here so we can document who's asked what.
[00:47:54]  I'm just kidding.
[00:47:55]  So that you can talk to the crowd.
[00:47:57]  Gavin, if you'll come, if you'll come down here.
[00:47:59]  Now, here's the thing about this question and answer time with Charlie, is that this is not the time for your best sermon.
[00:48:07]  A question has a question mark on it.
[00:48:12]  Yeah, not a statement with an inflection.
[00:48:15]  So it's this long speech.
[00:48:16]  So what do you think of that?
[00:48:17]  Yeah.
[00:48:18]  And it's unumas.
[00:48:19]  Only one question.
[00:48:20]  That's it.
[00:48:21]  Just one.
[00:48:22]  Okay.
[00:48:22]  There's a lot of people who may want to ask a question.
[00:48:25]  And so you will come down.
[00:48:27]  If you're down here, we're not going across the front here.
[00:48:29]  You're going to go up this way, over, and then come back down here to Gavin, and then he'll send you out there so that you three or four people are going to be inconvenienced for a second.
[00:48:38]  Get over it.
[00:48:38]  It'll be fine.
[00:48:39]  All right.
[00:48:40]  So if you have a question, we want to keep them pretty short.
[00:48:42]  We want to try to get about 30 minutes of questions in as we go.
[00:48:48]  So just form a line there.
[00:48:49]  Yeah, he's right over there.
[00:48:50]  He just took cuts.
[00:48:51]  That's okay.
[00:48:52]  We won't shame him.
[00:48:53]  That's right.
[00:48:55]  All right.
[00:48:56]  And Gavin will be holding the mic.
[00:48:58]  He will not let go of that mic.
[00:48:59]  And he was in the military, so he's skilled at breaking arms.
[00:49:06]  All right.
[00:49:07]  Gavin.
[00:49:08]  Yeah, my name is Dan.
[00:49:10]  I'm just asking if you'll give us some real simple, actionable things that everyday people can do.
[00:49:19]  Because some of us are involved already.
[00:49:21]  Some of us are wondering how to get involved.
[00:49:23]  Can you just give us some real easy, actionable items?
[00:49:26]  Really good.
[00:49:27]  So obviously everyone here should be registered to vote and vote in what?
[00:49:30]  Is it eight days, nine days or whatever it is?
[00:49:32]  That's the simple.
[00:49:33]  By the way, it's the most simple thing.
[00:49:36]  That's like super simple.
[00:49:37]  Okay, let me kind of talk.
[00:49:38]  I'm really glad you mentioned that, okay?
[00:49:40]  Because I guarantee you there's people here and this is not your church home.
[00:49:43]  This is a courageous church, by the way.
[00:49:44]  I'm going to tell you what that means in a second.
[00:49:46]  It's a big deal.
[00:49:48]  There are, and God will bless the courageous churches.
[00:49:50]  There's three types of churches in America.
[00:49:52]  I'm going to tell you some action items based on that because what I give you as action items or I recommend as action items differentiates based on what kind of group I speak at.
[00:50:01]  The church is a different type of action item.
[00:50:03]  Okay, there's the courageous church.
[00:50:05]  Most churches in America are not courageous.
[00:50:07]  Our pastors here today, they're courageous.
[00:50:10]  They remained open.
[00:50:11]  They're bold.
[00:50:12]  They're clear.
[00:50:13]  Okay, so how do you know what type of church you're in?
[00:50:16]  Well, then there's the cowardly church, okay?
[00:50:18]  The vast majority of American churches are run by cowards.
[00:50:22]  Okay?
[00:50:23]  Now, you might say, well, Charlie, that's a little harsh.
[00:50:25]  Very simple.
[00:50:26]  Here's how to know if you're being led by a coward or not.
[00:50:28]  If I offend you, good.
[00:50:29]  It's very simple.
[00:50:30]  Okay?
[00:50:31]  Did your church do a celebration after the reversal of Roe versus Wade?
[00:50:35]  Did they mention it?
[00:50:38]  If the answer is no, you got to find a new church.
[00:50:41]  It's that simple.
[00:50:42]  How do you, after 40 years of fasting and praying, not mention the reversal of Roe versus Wade?
[00:50:50]  Well, I don't want to offend, I don't want to offend people.
[00:50:53]  I mean, it's just amazing.
[00:50:54]  But here's the thing.
[00:50:55]  If you're being led by a cowardly pastor, which I'm sure some people here today are, go find them and just say why.
[00:51:03]  Why are you not doing more?
[00:51:04]  Challenge them.
[00:51:05]  Because we need the cowards to become courageous.
[00:51:08]  And by the way, all they have to do is make a decision, and there's time left on the clock.
[00:51:12]  What's something you could do?
[00:51:13]  Find a cowardly pastor and have them give a Sunday election sermon about why Christians need to vote biblically ahead of next Tuesday's election.
[00:51:21]  Very simple.
[00:51:23]  Right?
[00:51:24]  You want to comment on that?
[00:51:26]  So I've been a pastor for 25 years, and I'll tell you the most effective thing is instead of calling them out, call them up.
[00:51:32]  And you begin to say, listen, I know you can be courageous.
[00:51:34]  I know you can start telling the truth.
[00:51:36]  I know that you can start being bold because God has placed His Spirit upon you.
[00:51:39]  Sometimes we just call people out and it seems like it's no hope.
[00:51:42]  But I can tell you of names who've called me up and said, Brian, you're not preaching the word of God.
[00:51:46]  You better get your head on straight and get cool.
[00:51:48]  So I'll just tell you, Tammy Glubrick, she did that 25 years ago and changed my life forever.
[00:51:52]  So go ahead.
[00:51:53]  That's why you're the pastor and I'm not.
[00:51:55]  You see, that's, I'm like, call them out.
[00:51:56]  Okay.
[00:51:57]  And then there's the third type of church, which they need to be rebuked.
[00:52:00]  Okay.
[00:52:00]  They are the complicit church.
[00:52:02]  They're the churches that have the BLM flags or the gay flags and all of this.
[00:52:06]  These churches should no longer get your tithes or offerings.
[00:52:09]  They should no longer be supported.
[00:52:10]  I don't care how good their Christmas service is.
[00:52:13]  Okay.
[00:52:13]  They are infested and infected with the woke mind pathogen.
[00:52:18]  Okay.
[00:52:19]  You should no longer support them.
[00:52:20]  So that's a call to action.
[00:52:21]  Okay.
[00:52:22]  Let me give you a couple more calls to action.
[00:52:24]  If you're homeschooling your kids, great.
[00:52:26]  If you're thinking about homeschooling your kids, I want to encourage you to try to do that.
[00:52:29]  For the pastors out there, try to start a homeschool support ministry within your church to open up your church as a way to help parents make it easier to homeschool your kids.
[00:52:39]  Okay?
[00:52:40]  Other things you could do, and this is actually more individual.
[00:52:44]  If you cannot go about fixing that which you do not know, spend time every day learning, learning about the Constitution, learning about the Federalist Papers, learning about the Declaration of Independence, learning about critical theory.
[00:52:56]  So the last call to action is I need all of us in agreement and in unison, regardless of maybe our theological differences or theological similarities, right?
[00:53:05]  Is that we need to get very focused and in the short term, excommunicate the heresy of wokeism from the American church.
[00:53:13]  It needs to happen immediately.
[00:53:15]  Okay?
[00:53:18]  What do I mean by that?
[00:53:20]  I mean, and I'm just going to name names like T.D. Jakes, you know, hosting Robert Francis O'Rourke, the pro-abortion fanatic running for the governor of Texas and endorsing him, right?
[00:53:32]  I'm talking about people that are saying that the Old Testament doesn't matter and that we have to disregard it.
[00:53:36]  I'm talking about people doing white privilege struggle sessions or doing things of racial reconciliation nonsense.
[00:53:42]  We need to be in unison to communicate and then to communicate our values, but also say this has no place in the American church, okay?
[00:53:50]  Because it is a heresy.
[00:53:51]  It will destroy everything that we love.
[00:53:53]  I'm telling you, this idea of postmodernism, post-structuralism, and deconstructionism, deconstructionism is a viewpoint that we're going to take apart anything that might already exist or might already work.
[00:54:05]  It's an academic theory.
[00:54:07]  It is very dangerous and it's going to take all of us together.
[00:54:10]  And the final thing, the final kind of call to action is if you're over the age of 50 or 60 and you say, I have a lot of time on my hands, I ask the same question.
[00:54:17]  How many young people are you mentoring?
[00:54:20]  And if you've never even been asked that question, I say, you have a generation that needs a rescue mission right now.
[00:54:25]  They're killing themselves more than they're being run over by cars or anything else.
[00:54:29]  That is the largest cause of death in the 30 largest cities across America of kids under the age of 22 are drug overdoses or intentional suicide.
[00:54:37]  We need every person that is an elder in the audience right now to go out of your way and go find five people that you are mentoring, taking out to breakfast, that you're texting, that you're encouraging, that you're sharing wisdom or truth with.
[00:54:48]  We need an intergenerational rescue mission right now.
[00:54:51]  And that is a call to action that will bear fruit for generations to come.
[00:54:54]  That's right.
[00:55:00]  Gavin.
[00:55:02]  Thank you for coming to this, Charlie.
[00:55:04]  With the recent change in ownership of Twitter, how do you see that impacting free speech for the Christian faith as well as the conservative movement?
[00:55:12]  Yeah, I mean, look, I have a lot of listeners on our program that are very upset that I thought that this could be a good thing because they're cynical, and I get cynicism.
[00:55:21]  I don't like cynicism, actually.
[00:55:23]  I actually, and I'm not a forced, I'm not an automatic optimist, right?
[00:55:27]  I try to find the best in all things, but this is just a really great thing.
[00:55:31]  It is, okay?
[00:55:32]  Elon Musk, I disagree with him on a lot, obviously, Neuralink and his China ties, but he's already purging Twitter of people.
[00:55:38]  He's firing 75% of his workforce.
[00:55:41]  Accounts are being reinstated.
[00:55:42]  You might say, oh, Charlie, I don't like Twitter.
[00:55:45]  It doesn't mean anything.
[00:55:46]  You're wrong.
[00:55:46]  I'm just being honest.
[00:55:47]  You're wrong.
[00:55:48]  Twitter is the incubator of elite thought in America.
[00:55:51]  Twitter is where all the journalists, all of your senators, by the way, all of your congresspeople go to find out what they think about things.
[00:56:00]  Twitter is the top of the tributary.
[00:56:01]  It's a very unique platform.
[00:56:03]  It doesn't matter how many people it reaches.
[00:56:05]  It matters who it reaches, okay?
[00:56:07]  The journalists, the newsmakers.
[00:56:09]  Without Twitter, Donald Trump would not have won the presidency in 2016.
[00:56:13]  It's that simple.
[00:56:13]  Without Twitter and the ability to express ideas and opinions, they understood that because they censored every contrarian idea, whether it be on masks or hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin or vitamin D or baby aspirin, lives could have been safe if we had a free and open Twitter during the pandemic.
[00:56:31]  So it matters a lot.
[00:56:34]  Not to mention during all the race stuff.
[00:56:36]  So Twitter is where kind of the opinion makers have it out.
[00:56:41]  It's the new public square in the most kind of fair way possible.
[00:56:46]  Elon Studded stated goal and his actions have already showed that he wants to liberate Twitter from being a censorship tool of the American Uniparty.
[00:56:55]  He wants to be fair and free and open.
[00:56:56]  If he succeeds, great.
[00:56:58]  They're going to throw everything they can after this guy, by the way.
[00:57:01]  Because it's one thing to like say you're going to do it and all this.
[00:57:05]  If you actually have a place where speech is allowed to exist, every lie we can challenge now instantaneously, as it happens, right?
[00:57:13]  We're able to ask the informative questions.
[00:57:15]  Censorship is essential to this regime.
[00:57:18]  They need it.
[00:57:19]  And so you should all pray for Elon's success, by the way.
[00:57:22]  You want to bring more people and win them over for the gospel?
[00:57:25]  You want a free and open Twitter.
[00:57:26]  You want to be able to challenge tyranny and pro-life leaders that are being raided by the FBI.
[00:57:31]  You want a social media platform where you can talk about that immediately.
[00:57:35]  Free speech is a moral good.
[00:57:37]  We are the speaking beings, made in the image of God.
[00:57:39]  In the beginning was the Word, the Word was God, and the Word was with God.
[00:57:42]  God spoke it into existence.
[00:57:44]  Our ability to speak is what makes us human.
[00:57:46]  And the ability to speak online is what keeps us civil.
[00:57:49]  And if Elon succeeds, it'll make America a freer and better country.
[00:57:52]  I know the odds is against, but boy, I'm praying and I'm pulling for his success.
[00:58:02]  Thank you, Charlie.
[00:58:04]  In Spokane County in 2023, we're going to have a lot of school board positions open.
[00:58:10]  And talking to these people out here in the audience, how can you rally citizens to get involved with something they really don't know all the details to?
[00:58:18]  So don't even think that CRT is really in their curriculum.
[00:58:22]  And most of the parents that I hang around with have removed their schools from public education and are in the private schools.
[00:58:29]  But we do know we need to take care of our future generations in public system.
[00:58:33]  If you could address that.
[00:58:35]  Yeah, and so some people say, Charlie, I homeschool my kids.
[00:58:37]  I don't care about the local school board.
[00:58:39]  That is not correct.
[00:58:40]  You should care about all your fellow countrymen.
[00:58:41]  You should care about the innocent kids that are being taught this graphic pornography.
[00:58:46]  You should care about the groomers that call themselves teachers.
[00:58:49]  That's right, for the media in the back.
[00:58:50]  Those are groomers.
[00:58:51]  If you go after kids with homosexual curriculum, you are grooming them, okay?
[00:58:56]  It's sick and it's wrong.
[00:58:58]  And so I actually look at it as a ministry opportunity.
[00:59:03]  This is where the whole church needs to get unified behind this.
[00:59:06]  Because, you know, we have all sorts of different ministries, right?
[00:59:08]  We have a homeless ministry, men's ministry, an alcoholic recovery ministry, a prison ministry, all this.
[00:59:14]  Do we have a ministry to go into school boards and get new people elected to try to be salt and light in that arena?
[00:59:20]  Like, oh, Charlie, those aren't my kids.
[00:59:21]  Well, the homeless person isn't your kid either.
[00:59:23]  Then why do you help that person?
[00:59:25]  That person in prison isn't your kid.
[00:59:27]  Why do you go and preach the gospel there?
[00:59:28]  No, you should be salt and light in every arena.
[00:59:30]  I get it's not for everybody, but for any of you that are politically inclined, for any of you that see what's wrong in our local school board, I've seen this happen in at least 15 communities across the country.
[00:59:40]  One church can flip an entire school board.
[00:59:43]  If you guys meet about it, you draft candidates, you understand the opposition, you build community support.
[00:59:48]  If you got one church, it can flip an entire school board.
[00:59:52]  So I have a feeling this church is going to be doing exactly that in 2023.
[00:59:59]  So, Charlie, what you don't know is that we work with a number of school districts and we have so here, I'll just say it this way: we need more of you to run because we have a minority right now.
[01:00:09]  I'll just say it that way.
[01:00:11]  And if you have that, just that inclination, come see me.
[01:00:16]  We'll make sure things are going.
[01:00:17]  Praise God.
[01:00:17]  That's awesome.
[01:00:19]  Hey, Charlie.
[01:00:21]  Since many of the pastors you hang out with, like Jack Hibbs, who I listen to quite frequently, believe we're in the last hours of the last days.
[01:00:30]  What keeps you optimistic, as you are, about America turning around to better days?
[01:00:36]  Well, yeah, I mean, so I get asked these questions all the time.
[01:00:40]  And so I'm not a theologian.
[01:00:42]  I get asked about eschatology a lot because kind of some of the pastors, as you mentioned, I hang around with are very focused on the end times.
[01:00:49]  I think they very well could be right.
[01:00:51]  That's not my kind of line of work.
[01:00:53]  I've heard great arguments on both sides.
[01:00:55]  People say, Charlie, you pre-trib?
[01:00:57]  Are you post-trib?
[01:00:58]  You know, tonight I'm pan-trib.
[01:01:00]  It's all going to pan out in the end, okay?
[01:01:03]  And he's trying to figure out what I am right now.
[01:01:09]  Because, I mean, it's not, that's not.
[01:01:10]  So you're not the same as Jack Hibbs.
[01:01:12]  Oh, you guys are okay.
[01:01:13]  Go ahead.
[01:01:14]  That doesn't mean they all are.
[01:01:15]  Just go ahead.
[01:01:17]  It's not my expertise, right?
[01:01:18]  I don't profess to be an expert in that kind of theological, that very theological interpretation.
[01:01:24]  With that being said, though, let's say that we are in the end times, okay?
[01:01:27]  Well, then we should be trying to win as many people over for Jesus and do the most good we can in the shortest period of time.
[01:01:34]  It should be the opposite.
[01:01:35]  It shouldn't be Jesus is coming soon.
[01:01:37]  Let's run to the hills and do nothing, right?
[01:01:39]  It's like Jesus is coming next Thursday.
[01:01:40]  I don't have time for that school board meeting, Charlie.
[01:01:42]  It's like, no, no, no, no.
[01:01:43]  If you believe things are not falling apart but falling into place, you should be accelerating your rate of change, right?
[01:01:49]  That's right.
[01:01:49]  That's the correct situation.
[01:01:50]  And so it's more important of what are you doing, right?
[01:01:54]  Yeah.
[01:01:54]  As a response to it.
[01:01:55]  So guess what?
[01:01:56]  For people that are actually saying that it's another 2,000 years where Jesus comes, or you know, churches I speak there, they say heresy.
[01:02:03]  But I hear it sometimes, right?
[01:02:05]  But I say, the question is, what are you doing?
[01:02:08]  Right?
[01:02:08]  Or for some churches I go to where they say, hey, we need to do good and that will make Jesus return.
[01:02:14]  I say, well, then what are you doing?
[01:02:15]  That's my call to action, right?
[01:02:17]  Is that as someone who loves the Lord and believes the Bible is true, my call is that do not allow your eschatology to be an excuse for inaction of all the evil around you.
[01:02:32]  And just so we're clear, we've been in the last days ever since the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
[01:02:38]  So stop trying to figure it out, be wise in the servant, and as a doubt, and tell people about Jesus.
[01:02:43]  Amen.
[01:02:43]  I mean, I don't know how else to go around that.

=== Challenge Masculinity Today (10:46) ===

[01:02:45]  All right, keep going.
[01:02:47]  Hey, Charlie, like most everyone here tonight, it's nice to see you face to face.
[01:02:51]  See you on big screen or my computer.
[01:02:55]  So my question is: milk, bread, cheese.
[01:02:58]  Oh, that's a text from my wife.
[01:03:03]  Sorry.
[01:03:04]  She just took it.
[01:03:05]  She couldn't make it tonight.
[01:03:08]  With the 2024 election, and we've got a Ford governor and a former president, I think, do you think?
[01:03:17]  I think both might be running.
[01:03:19]  And what do you think that would be like?
[01:03:21]  So I get asked this question frequently, as you could probably imagine.
[01:03:24]  I'll answer it personally, not on behalf of TPUSA.
[01:03:27]  So you're talking about if DeSantis and Trump run, obviously, right?
[01:03:30]  So I'm a very big supporter of Donald Trump, and I have been.
[01:03:35]  And I told him personally that if he runs again, he's going to have my support.
[01:03:39]  I've told him that.
[01:03:41]  And I can't stand in politics when people all of a sudden forget where they came from.
[01:03:48]  And I'm a loyal person.
[01:03:50]  And so if he runs again, I'm not going to forget all of a sudden how good he was to me and to our organization and all that.
[01:03:56]  I gave him my word, and that's it.
[01:03:58]  So if he runs again, I'm 100% behind him.
[01:04:00]  With that being said, two more thoughts.
[01:04:02]  Ron DeSantis very well could be a once-in-a-generation leader that we've been waiting and praying for.
[01:04:06]  I don't know when that's going to materialize.
[01:04:08]  I don't know when, but I really do believe, I think he would be one of the best presidents in American history.
[01:04:15]  I really do.
[01:04:16]  Now, the final capstone on that.
[01:04:19]  I said, I think I know Donald Trump was one of America's best presidents.
[01:04:29]  And for that, he has my backing if he runs again in 2022.
[01:04:33]  Thank you.
[01:04:38]  I got it.
[01:04:38]  Sure.
[01:04:38]  Okay.
[01:04:39]  Hi, my name's Ron, and thank you for coming.
[01:04:42]  And I have a tape of you and my home church in St. Louis, Grace Church.
[01:04:47]  And this kind of comes out of the questions that were asked there.
[01:04:50]  With all the broken families, how can we unify the pastors of Spokane to gear toward all of our youth in the academic and the sports arena?
[01:05:03]  Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
[01:05:06]  Look, the American church needs to continue to be, you know, in the business of trying to keep families together and try to challenge young men not to just impregnate a woman and abandon.
[01:05:16]  And I think, look, this is a very interesting thing.
[01:05:19]  I haven't talked openly about this in a while.
[01:05:22]  The amount of beta male culture that has infiltrated the American church is so incredibly disturbing.
[01:05:29]  What do I mean by that?
[01:05:30]  These feminine men that become pastors, there's no place for that, okay?
[01:05:35]  And I think what it does is it puts too much pressure on women.
[01:05:39]  It creates this weakness of masculinity.
[01:05:41]  Our whole culture has become too feminine, by the way.
[01:05:43]  That's not an attack on women, by the way.
[01:05:45]  It's not.
[01:05:45]  By the way, women should want strong men.
[01:05:48]  You don't have to overcomplicate this, right?
[01:05:50]  So please, go ahead.
[01:05:55]  So one of the things I think we need to start doing is take out the teenage years.
[01:05:58]  You're either a boy or a man, a girl or a woman.
[01:06:02]  This idea of rebellion in the middle of their life is unacceptable.
[01:06:07]  And we need to begin to call them up again and say, no, you are a man of God or a woman of God.
[01:06:12]  Lead that way.
[01:06:15]  I couldn't have said it better myself.
[01:06:16]  And so what happens, and I think the American family is breaking because of it, is this subsidized prolonged adolescence of infant boy, like infant men of 26, 27 year olds.
[01:06:29]  I'm telling you, young men need to be treated a lot harsher than they are right now.
[01:06:33]  And I know this sounds bad.
[01:06:34]  They need to be challenged, put out into the wild, figure it out.
[01:06:38]  You know, go reach deep down and understand if you have testosterone or not, and then build something of value.
[01:06:43]  This idea of men perpetually kind of be putting and their feelings and all is nonsense.
[01:06:48]  You know what it does?
[01:06:49]  It creates the most suicidal generation of men in history, is what it does.
[01:06:52]  We got to challenge our men.
[01:06:54]  We have to challenge them to be better than they are.
[01:06:56]  Young men love a good challenge, a physical challenge, a career challenge.
[01:07:01]  That's what they need to be called for, called for more.
[01:07:04]  Instead, the entire society right now is trying to say, well, there's toxic masculinity.
[01:07:10]  And if you say the wrong thing to a woman, she might report you to a local authority.
[01:07:14]  And it creates this society where they say, well, you know, I'm not going to mess around with this.
[01:07:18]  I'm just going to go play Xbox in my basement, right?
[01:07:21]  So we need, that's why at Turning Point USA, we now have a men's summit where we, and our men's summit is very different than our women's summit, where our men's summit, our women's summit is really fun.
[01:07:30]  And my wife speaks at the women's summit, and women come from across the country and they're wearing dresses, lots of pink.
[01:07:35]  Our men's summit is out in the woods, no phones.
[01:07:38]  We deprive you of calories, of sleep, we break you, and we teach you something, and then you learn how to become a man.
[01:07:52]  I want to be abundantly clear on something.
[01:07:54]  Being a man is not getting a trunk, a gun, or shooting an elk.
[01:07:57]  Being a man is being a leader, both spiritually, both first one to repent, first one to the cross, and then by the truck, shoot, the elk, and get the gun.
[01:08:07]  You guys have had me rethinking my latest haircut.
[01:08:13]  So if you look at American history, the trajectory suggests that we're losing the culture war.
[01:08:21]  What are some indicators that that might be turning around that we can look forward to?
[01:08:26]  Maybe not right now.
[01:08:26]  That's a super thoughtful question.
[01:08:28]  Yeah, I mean, look, we are losing the culture war on some fronts.
[01:08:31]  You're right.
[01:08:32]  But the unexpected reversal of Roe versus Wade shows that there's a lot of strength left, okay?
[01:08:40]  I am, I'm very encouraged because this is what's so interesting.
[01:08:44]  Pornography in schools is nothing new.
[01:08:47]  It's just that people are now caring about it.
[01:08:49]  That's a good thing.
[01:08:51]  The parents' movement in America of showing up to school boards and challenging what's being taught to kids is a very, very healthy development.
[01:08:58]  I think we're going to see a robust revival of social conservatism in our country, the likes of which we never could have dreamed of a generation before.
[01:09:06]  But I think look around.
[01:09:08]  There is a renewed interest.
[01:09:09]  Here we are on Saturday afternoon, a million different things people could be doing.
[01:09:13]  They want to come to a church and learn and dive deep and understand what they can do to be able to become a better citizen.
[01:09:19]  But yes, we are up against huge odds, right?
[01:09:21]  We're up against the alphabet mafia.
[01:09:23]  We're up against the abortion industry.
[01:09:25]  We're up against all these different forces.
[01:09:28]  But the resiliency of the people in this room is something very, very special.
[01:09:32]  But look, the leading indicators in some ways show that, you know, we're losing on drugs, we're losing on all this stuff.
[01:09:38]  I don't see it that way.
[01:09:39]  I see, you're right, the current trajectory is not great, but there's nothing to say that we committed citizens can't turn that trajectory around.
[01:09:48]  And that's what I just want to keep on reinforcing: is that America has defied the experts before.
[01:09:54]  There's no reason why we can't defy the experts again and have an awakening and a revival around these ideas.
[01:10:00]  And I'm telling you, I travel the country.
[01:10:02]  I have never seen so many millions of people fired up and committed and ready to do something for their kids, their grandkids, and their country.
[01:10:09]  That gives me hope.
[01:10:16]  And I'll just remind you: without God, nothing is possible.
[01:10:19]  But with God, all things are possible.
[01:10:22]  Amen.
[01:10:23]  Go ahead.
[01:10:24]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:10:25]  Big fan watching you since I was 12.
[01:10:27]  And just had a quick question with Elon Musk taking over Twitter.
[01:10:31]  Do you recommend conservatives joining Twitter and other public forums in order to sway the narrative back to the right?
[01:10:38]  Yes, I think everyone should rejoin Twitter.
[01:10:40]  I don't think we should abandon all these other platforms like Truth and Getter.
[01:10:43]  I think we should continue to use them.
[01:10:45]  But I mean, I think it should be a green light.
[01:10:47]  We should get back into Twitter to try to win over as many people as we can.
[01:10:51]  I know there's probably people that have been banned from Twitter here because they went on a huge banning thing.
[01:10:55]  One of the first asks that we have out of Elon is he's got to go free all the Twitter prisoners of war right now, all the people that lost, all the PAW, all the POWs that lost their Twitter accounts.
[01:11:07]  But I said this on my show yesterday, and it was mocked endlessly by the media, which means I'm definitely onto something.
[01:11:15]  Is I believe the acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk is the single most consequential private transaction in American history.
[01:11:23]  Find me another private, not government transaction, a private transaction of a private actor buying something that actually could change the game.
[01:11:30]  Nothing comes even close when you think about it.
[01:11:32]  $44 billion that controls the incubator of elite thought and something that tens of millions of people use every single day.
[01:11:38]  That's a big deal.
[01:11:39]  If he's even half successful, it's going to throw a wrench and a curveball into the regime, the likes of which we never could have imagined.
[01:11:54]  Hi, Charlie, Sean Needham.
[01:11:55]  Thank you for coming out today.
[01:11:58]  I got a copy of your book, A College Scam, and I'm excited to read it.
[01:12:02]  My wife and I are both pharmacists, and we educated our sons early on what a scam college was.
[01:12:09]  Unfortunately, to get any kind of health care professional degree, nursing, pharmacy, doctor, we need to go to college, right?
[01:12:20]  So what is your suggestion on how to fix that problem?
[01:12:23]  Because we need our medical freedom from healthcare professionals back and for patients back.
[01:12:37]  The Christian universities have got to get the wokeness out of their universities and step up.
[01:12:42]  That's just Pastor Brian's thoughts.
[01:12:44]  Go ahead.
[01:12:44]  That's right.
[01:12:45]  I mean, one of the great boom industries in the next 10 years are people that just start new schools and new places to train young people.
[01:12:51]  Because, I mean, there's such a demand and a need for it.
[01:12:54]  I get these questions all the time.
[01:12:55]  And so there needs to be new schools started, new places started.
[01:12:58]  But if you have to send your kid to a school, try to find the least woke school possible that has a turning point USA chapter there, get them through as cheaply and quickly as possible.
[01:13:08]  And you better hawk that kid throughout.
[01:13:09]  You better be texting them.
[01:13:10]  So, how is philosophy course in class?
[01:13:13]  Almost mock it alongside of them, right?
[01:13:15]  Tell them what to expect before they take it.
[01:13:16]  You know what I mean?
[01:13:17]  So it's not like you just hands off.
[01:13:19]  It's kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, they're going to throw a lot of nonsense.
[01:13:21]  And then proper, you know, the right way happens is when they text you back, be like, whoa, that professor, just like you said, was way off, you know, way off base.
[01:13:30]  And I challenge him.
[01:13:31]  And then you say, that's great.

=== Recruit New Listeners Now (08:21) ===

[01:13:32]  I'm so proud of you, right?
[01:13:33]  And so you almost kind of go through that process alongside.
[01:13:36]  If that makes sense.
[01:13:37]  Instead, when parents like drop their kids off at university on September 1st and by Thanksgiving, like, oh, hey, honey, how was school?
[01:13:45]  Actually, I'm non-binary now.
[01:13:47]  And I'm not sure what my genders are.
[01:13:51]  You're like, oh, okay, you know, okay.
[01:13:54]  And then you're like, okay, you want to have Thanksgiving dinner?
[01:13:56]  And you say, did the Thanksgiving, did the turkey consent to being killed?
[01:13:59]  Like, did that, was this a consensual, I'm vegan, actually.
[01:14:02]  You're like, what is going on paying for this?
[01:14:04]  So it happens far too often.
[01:14:05]  And if you send your kid to college, you're playing Russian with their values, as I said earlier.
[01:14:12]  Adelie.
[01:14:12]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:14:13]  My name's Natalie.
[01:14:14]  I just want to thank you for...
[01:14:23]  Well, thank you.
[01:14:24]  I just wanted to thank you for your transparency and your courage because I wish a lot more people would realize courage is contagious.
[01:14:32]  And I really wanted to know, I feel that our current media is the greatest detriment to our country.
[01:14:39]  How do we, actionable steps, how do we combat that?
[01:14:43]  Yeah, so part of Elon liberating Twitter is a big part of that.
[01:14:47]  So for running for office, you can, let me just kind of give you a general rule of thumb of something I learned, okay?
[01:14:54]  So, you have to not give the media power.
[01:14:56]  You're like, oh, yeah, of course we don't do that.
[01:14:58]  We do that sometimes, actually.
[01:14:59]  So, I'll give you an example of where I failed and where I think I made the proper decision in two different circumstances.
[01:15:05]  Okay, the media tells us to hate Alex Jones.
[01:15:07]  Okay, now you might love Alex Jones, you might hate Alex Jones, you might be indifferent on Alex Jones, okay?
[01:15:13]  But back in 2018, Alex Jones was patient zero of the inter, like many different corporations working at the same time to kick Alex Jones off their social media platforms.
[01:15:24]  In one day, he lost his Apple podcast, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, all at once.
[01:15:30]  And I was silent.
[01:15:32]  I allowed the media to control me because, like, hey, if I speak out against Alex Jones, I might get a negative article written about me.
[01:15:38]  Okay, that was a cowardly thing to do, right?
[01:15:41]  And he was patient zero for the same sort of behavior that was then used against Donald Trump.
[01:15:47]  But it's Alex Jones.
[01:15:49]  We can't say anything.
[01:15:50]  The same thing happened with Alex Jones a couple weeks ago, where they put a $1 billion judgment against Alex Jones.
[01:15:56]  And a lot of people were silent.
[01:15:58]  They're like, oh, it's so terrible what he said.
[01:15:59]  I don't like what he said, and you shouldn't either.
[01:16:02]  But do you believe a billion-dollar judgment of lawfare being used to silence a commentator should be used?
[01:16:07]  So we did the opposite.
[01:16:08]  I never defended what Alex Jones said at Sandy Hook.
[01:16:11]  You shouldn't either.
[01:16:12]  But I defend speech, and I defend also people from being mercilessly assailed.
[01:16:17]  So we then invited Alex Jones to Skype in at one of our events, tell the media, you don't control us.
[01:16:23]  And yeah, they wrote their articles and they said, oh, Turning Point USA does that like, yeah, we do.
[01:16:27]  You know why we're doing it?
[01:16:28]  Because of you.
[01:16:29]  Because I want to show you how little power you actually have.
[01:16:31]  That you write an article and said you can control my behavior.
[01:16:33]  It's not going to happen anymore, actually.
[01:16:35]  That's the posture you have to have against the media.
[01:16:38]  You cannot allow them to control you.
[01:16:41]  And so that's number one.
[01:16:42]  Number two is support the content creators.
[01:16:46]  You know, I'm going to make a plug for my podcast later on.
[01:16:49]  Listening to our podcast, listening to Talk Radio, supporting the sponsors on Talk Radio.
[01:16:54]  So that's if you have some commentators that you like, maybe it's Bannon, maybe it's Jack Posobiec, maybe it's ours, you know, supporting the sponsors that are on there and seeing if you can fit it into your monthly budget.
[01:17:04]  You know, for example, we have good ranchers and they, you know, they help deliver meat to your door.
[01:17:09]  You're like, okay, instead of going to the grocery store, I use the promo code on Charlie's show.
[01:17:13]  That keeps our shows alive, by the way, against all the censorship.
[01:17:16]  Does that make sense where that supports the good media and you divest from the bad media?
[01:17:20]  And then the final thing is just you have to have a trained eye to not accept their narratives.
[01:17:26]  It's so hard, right?
[01:17:27]  That the narratives, their one-liners on their newspapers, all this stuff that seeps in, it has such control over our society.
[01:17:35]  So those are my three pieces of advice for you.
[01:17:37]  Thank you.
[01:17:42]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:17:43]  My name is Sarah, and I'm a freshman in high school.
[01:17:46]  Me and my friends are kind of the only conservative Christian people in the entire school.
[01:17:51]  Do you have any tips to actually get through that without getting beat to a pole?
[01:17:57]  Well, first, God bless you for being here and for being so outspoken.
[01:18:06]  And secondly, we'd love to have you start a Turning Point USA chapter.
[01:18:10]  We would love to support you.
[01:18:11]  Our team will help you afterwards.
[01:18:13]  You know, at Turning Point USA, we're on pace to hit 1,000 high school chapters across the country by the end of this school year.
[01:18:19]  An incredible accomplishment.
[01:18:21]  And so you can help us get on the way to 1,000.
[01:18:24]  Look, you're wearing the Trump hat.
[01:18:25]  I see that.
[01:18:26]  Look, at a young age, it's important to recognize that if you're going to be outspokenly Christian conservative, the world is not going to like you.
[01:18:34]  Okay?
[01:18:34]  You're going to be attacked.
[01:18:35]  You're going to be persecuted.
[01:18:36]  You're just going to have to get through that, right?
[01:18:38]  And be stronger because of it.
[01:18:39]  Also, understand life is more than politics when you're 14, 15, or 16.
[01:18:44]  But if they want to make it all about politics, then so be it, right?
[01:18:47]  You're just going to have to withstand that.
[01:18:48]  But find a community of people that you agree with.
[01:18:51]  How big is your school?
[01:18:53]  75 people.
[01:18:55]  175 people.
[01:18:56]  So I'm just going to tell you from experience: there's more conservatives out there that are just afraid to speak their mind.
[01:19:01]  I guarantee you, there might be only two that are outspoken right now.
[01:19:05]  But if you start the club, you start speaking out, all of a sudden that two might become 20, and that 20 might become 50 very quickly.
[01:19:11]  That's the power of boldness and courage.
[01:19:13]  And we're here to help you any way we possibly can at Turning Point USA.
[01:19:24]  I think there's two more.
[01:19:25]  Okay, do we have any more?
[01:19:26]  We're done.
[01:19:27]  Okay, so let me just give some final thoughts, guys, in closing here.
[01:19:30]  So the first of which is, I guarantee you, some people here tonight kind of heard our list and they said, Charlie, I've done everything you have asked me to do.
[01:19:38]  Everything.
[01:19:39]  I watched Tucker Carlson.
[01:19:42]  I bought the pillow.
[01:19:44]  I have done everything that has been asked of me.
[01:19:49]  Did you buy the slippers?
[01:19:50]  Oh, and the Giza Dream Sheets.
[01:19:53]  Yes.
[01:19:53]  Actually, I bakos?
[01:19:55]  Those are amazing.
[01:19:56]  And so promo code Kirk at mypillow.com for all of you keep the score at home.
[01:20:01]  Yeah, there's no noble promo code.
[01:20:04]  Go ahead.
[01:20:05]  But it's really the person in the arena that counts.
[01:20:09]  It's the person that is going to be taking the blows, the person that decides to do more.
[01:20:13]  So let tonight be a time where you decide, you know what?
[01:20:15]  I am going to do more.
[01:20:16]  I'm going to get involved on a local campaign or I'm going to run for office.
[01:20:19]  And to answer the question about consumption of local media, right?
[01:20:23]  So this is a shameless plug.
[01:20:24]  If you guys can help me out, it really helps us out.
[01:20:26]  So we're up against big tech censorship all the time, right?
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[01:20:32]  We do three podcasts a day, one on Saturday, one on Sunday, constantly publishing.
[01:20:37]  We're on radio stations across the country.
[01:20:39]  Here's one way you guys can help me.
[01:20:40]  All of you guys have smartphones right now.
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[01:20:43]  If you guys subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast, every single phone has a podcast app.
[01:20:48]  You have an iPhone, you take it out, it's right there.
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[01:20:56]  It allows us to stay strong, to help recruit new listeners, and to get more people behind us.
[01:21:02]  If everybody in this room did that, it would result in thousands and tens of thousands of other people nationwide then being able to become kind of in contact with our show.
[01:21:11]  And we'd love to earn, it's one of my favorite words in the English language, earn the right to be able to become one of your places for news consumption every day.
[01:21:19]  If you do not know how to use a QR code or you do not know how to subscribe to a podcast, I think I saw a nine-year-old around here somewhere that would be more than happy to kind of help to walk you through that, right?
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[01:21:36]  Thank you.
[01:21:37]  One other announcement, then I'll kind of close it out, if that's okay.
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=== Organize Through the Turning Point (01:50) ===

[01:21:53]  I'll close with this.
[01:21:54]  Somebody asked, you know, hey, Charlie, what gives you hope?
[01:21:57]  I get asked the question all the time.
[01:21:59]  Charlie, are you a pessimist or are you an optimist?
[01:22:03]  And so if I told you I was an optimist, many of you would go home and you'd say, I don't have to do anything because Charlie is optimistic and he thinks everything's going to be fine.
[01:22:12]  If I told you I was a pessimist, many of you would go home and you'd say, I don't have to do anything because everything's just going to fall apart.
[01:22:19]  No, instead, you must make your own hope happen.
[01:22:23]  I'll close with the final point of hope, which is the World Economic Forum is starting to feel the ground tremble because of your action.
[01:22:32]  They're starting to become nervous and anxious because a widespread citizen movement of different backgrounds, of different religions, largely led by the church, of different income back, are people now rising up and starting to do something that we've never seen before.
[01:22:50]  You are living through a moment in history, dare I say a turning point, where we can go one way or the other.
[01:22:55]  And it's going to be the citizen that revives it.
[01:22:57]  It's going to be the mom and the dad showing up at school boards.
[01:23:00]  It's going to be those of you in the pews that are fasting and praying for the nation.
[01:23:03]  But the people in charge are perplexed by you.
[01:23:05]  They've thrown everything they can at you.
[01:23:07]  They've called moms and dads that show up at school boards domestic terrorists.
[01:23:10]  They've called many of you insurrectionists.
[01:23:12]  And guess what?
[01:23:12]  You don't care.
[01:23:13]  You're going to keep on organizing.
[01:23:15]  You're going to keep on fighting.
[01:23:16]  We have the bad guys on defense.
[01:23:19]  It's time for us to accelerate and win this thing once and for all.
[01:23:24]  God bless you guys.
[01:23:25]  Thank you so much.
[01:23:30]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[01:23:31]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[01:23:34]  Thank you so much for listening.
[01:23:36]  God bless.
[01:23:40]  For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.