The Charlie Kirk Show - Marjorie Taylor Greene and the Case for McCarthy as Speaker
Aired: 2022-11-17
Duration: 36:23


=== Hope Over Political Crap (14:51) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:00]  Today on the Charlie Kirk show, Marjorie Taylor Green lays out the case for why she wants to have Kevin McCarthy become speaker.
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[00:01:29]  I know a lot of people are beginning to engage in despair and doom and gloom and negativity, but we're not going to do any of that here.
[00:01:36]  We're going to talk about what we can learn from the last week.
[00:01:39]  We're going to celebrate what went right, such as Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis and many other victories and hopefully the Attorney General's race here in Arizona.
[00:01:48]  And then we're going to talk about what is happening in real time with the successes that we've had that can meaningfully make this country a better place to live.
[00:01:59]  Andrew is with us, producer Andrew.
[00:02:01]  How are you doing today?
[00:02:02]  Doing great, Charlie.
[00:02:03]  We had a fun night last night on the stream.
[00:02:05]  For those who missed it, go check it out.
[00:02:07]  We had Jack Pasobic, Tyler Boyer, who was in Mar-a-Lago, reacting to the Trump announcement live out in the parking lot.
[00:02:16]  It was pretty fun.
[00:02:18]  You know, listen, I think as we all go through our stages of grief with what happened, you know, we're kind of emerging from the fog of war, so as it were, and we're seeing a silver lining here.
[00:02:30]  I think we're going to have a really good chance of having a very conservative house majority.
[00:02:34]  Yes.
[00:02:35]  I think Kevin McCarthy is, you know, we're going to have Marjorie Taylor Greene on in just a few minutes, and she's going to tell us why she was backing Kevin McCarthy.
[00:02:42]  I think that's going to be interesting, especially after your conversation with Matt Gates a few days ago.
[00:02:46]  And listen, Abe Homeday, we got to cure our ballots in Arizona, but there's just lots going on, and it's becoming clear, Charlie, about ballot harvesting.
[00:02:56]  So I'm excited to have Jennifer Van Laar and Sean Davis.
[00:03:00]  And Pastor Rob McCoy, who actually did it in California successfully and flipped the county supervisor seat.
[00:03:05]  Now, there is something I want to say, and I know that people do not want to hear this in our audience because they email me.
[00:03:11]  They say, Charlie, stop talking about things that went wrong.
[00:03:13]  They just flat out stole it.
[00:03:15]  Okay, but this is interesting, though.
[00:03:17]  If you listen to what happened in Colorado, because I made a lot of calls last night, right?
[00:03:21]  I made calls to people on the ground in Pennsylvania and Colorado and Georgia and in most states except Texas and Florida.
[00:03:30]  And they have all said as they're doing their data analysis, they saw a same and similar collapse of independence across the board, across the country.
[00:03:40]  Now, people might say, well, Charlie, it's because they had this rigged system.
[00:03:43]  Well, if that's the case, then how did Ron DeSantis win by 20 points, right?
[00:03:47]  How did Brian Kemp win by six or seven points?
[00:03:50]  Now, ballot harvesting and ballot capturing and machines going down in Arizona, we are one of the only shows that is going to repeatedly talk about it.
[00:03:59]  But there is growing evidence that there was something done by the Democrats that we can learn from that is constructive and important about how on earth did we do so well with independence in the polling and in certain early returns and in-person election day, but there was a faction, a type of independence that totally gravitated their support away from us.
[00:04:22]  And Andrew, there could be some explanations, but the most logical one would probably be something around Dobbs, something around a targeted ad campaign.
[00:04:32]  Or is it, Andrew, that Republicans didn't sprint the last half mile of the marathon?
[00:04:38]  Do you think that we just kind of, were candidates just kind of let up, that there wasn't a targeted campaign to go after independence?
[00:04:45]  I don't know.
[00:04:46]  I'm just thinking out loud.
[00:04:47]  Andrew, what are your thoughts on that?
[00:04:49]  I mean, listen, I think Dobbs completely, it's a point that I made on the show this week.
[00:04:55]  I think, you know, living in California, you know, my wife's friends, like we would have these conversations and it kind of, I kind of didn't key in on it enough, honestly.
[00:05:06]  But they did a great job on platforms like TikTok, social media.
[00:05:12]  You know, my wife told me hers was full of it before the election of just people saying, hey, they want to criminalize miscarriages.
[00:05:19]  We all know that that's so ridiculous not to be true.
[00:05:21]  I mean, half of pregnancies basically end in miscarriage.
[00:05:24]  Like that's never going to happen.
[00:05:25]  That's a crazy thing.
[00:05:27]  I think it worked a lot with independents.
[00:05:29]  I think it worked a lot with single women.
[00:05:31]  We saw them go way far to the left this cycle.
[00:05:35]  And we've got to do a better job of rebutting those sort of pieces of misinformation that don't end up having a big, a big effect.
[00:05:42]  And listen, I think it's a straw man, but it's possible that a lot of independents were convinced that fascism and democracy really was on the ballot.
[00:05:50]  I don't know.
[00:05:51]  But I think boring won.
[00:05:53]  That much seems to be clear.
[00:05:54]  Boring won.
[00:05:55]  And I hate to admit it because I love the push and pull of a more aggressive posture, but it's true.
[00:06:03]  Yeah, something happened across the country.
[00:06:05]  And the only states it didn't really happen in is Florida, to be honest, where independents, we thought independents were going to break our way.
[00:06:12]  And Andrew, do you remember that show that we did right before the midterms of how we could lose?
[00:06:16]  And we got so much hate mail, where one of the ways I said is if independents somehow don't break our way.
[00:06:22]  Now, I'll be very honest.
[00:06:23]  I didn't think that was possible.
[00:06:24]  I didn't think with gas prices, with immigration, with Biden being so unpopular.
[00:06:30]  Now, what ended up happening, though, seemed to be a kind of devil's bargain that independents did in their head, at least in Arizona, where they went into the voting booth very convincingly by six to eight points saying that we are going to vote for some Republicans, but we're not going to vote for all Republicans.
[00:06:55]  And so here's the one thing that no one has been able to explain to me, which is if it was, you know, if they were really in Scottsdale, for example, or in Mesa, if all of it was synthetic, then why on earth was David Schweikert and Andy Biggs, why were they outperforming Cary Lake, which none of us would have thought, Andrew?
[00:07:17]  We thought that Arizona would want a Republican governor a lot more than a Republican Congress.
[00:07:22]  That is not the case.
[00:07:23]  It is clear that at least in Arizona and in other states, Georgia as well, that voters were saying that we want some Democrats to run our states, which is just amazing.
[00:07:35]  You think about it, but it really might not have been that.
[00:07:38]  It was we want the person that is not going to be controversial.
[00:07:42]  And by the way, it didn't take a lot to tip it over the edge.
[00:07:46]  Why?
[00:07:47]  It's because they ran up the score in downtown Phoenix.
[00:07:53]  Now, this one right here, Charlie, stop.
[00:07:55]  First time I'm turning you off today.
[00:07:56]  The Dems have brainwashed you.
[00:07:58]  They want us blaming ourselves, and I'm having none of this crap.
[00:08:01]  Remember, Charlie, this is the Marxist playbook.
[00:08:03]  See, I totally disagree.
[00:08:04]  Sometimes you are going to have to look and act as if you didn't do anything right.
[00:08:08]  I mean, if we just act like we did everything right this election cycle, then we're never going to win.
[00:08:14]  And so, no, that's right.
[00:08:15]  The Democrats have not brainwashed it.
[00:08:17]  And, Charlie, you know, one of the first red flags for the Kerry Lake campaign should have been the primary when Karen Taylor Robeson, you know, got as close as she did.
[00:08:28]  I mean, there was no grassroots energy behind it.
[00:08:30]  There was no, there was no mass movement behind Karen Taylor Robeson.
[00:08:34]  I think in Arizona, there is a unique aftermath that you have to take into account after the audit, after the flake McCain era.
[00:08:43]  I mean, it was a unique situation in Arizona where the establishment Republicans, yeah, they lost the battle for control of the party in Arizona, but there's indications that 7% to 9% of Republicans, of registered Republicans, did not vote for Kerry Lake.
[00:09:01]  And you got to remember, Kerry Lake was going, you know, she was having an open social media, you know, confrontation with Megan McCain, with Liz Cheney.
[00:09:12]  Maybe there's seven to nine percent of moderate Republicans that didn't break her way in the end, and they were willing to vote for Treasurer.
[00:09:19]  They were willing to vote for Schweikert.
[00:09:22]  And maybe they were willing to vote for Abe Homeday as well.
[00:09:25]  So I think, you know, that should have been a red flag that that race was even as close as it was in the primary.
[00:09:30]  And maybe it played itself out in the general.
[00:09:33]  It's a real possibility that that same trend affected independents.
[00:09:37]  Yeah, look, so someone says here, Charlie, stop with this nonsense.
[00:09:42]  It's very clear that they stole it and that people voted straight ticket.
[00:09:46]  Look, I could tell you that's just not true.
[00:09:47]  That's not the way that elections work.
[00:09:49]  People split tickets all the time.
[00:09:51]  Okay.
[00:09:52]  Now, I fully acknowledge that the machines, we were the only ones on the machines.
[00:09:56]  But guys, I got to tell you that if we are not willing to say that there's anything we could do differently in the future, then we're just going to be back in this situation again.
[00:10:06]  And we are, by the way, we're about to talk about the legal challenges.
[00:10:10]  I think there needs to be a new Maricopa County election.
[00:10:13]  I think with the machines being down, I think there was legitimate voter suppression.
[00:10:18]  I think that the top of the Democrat ticket definitely illegally ballot harvested, but we're talking about things right on the edges.
[00:10:27]  And if our message is we did everything perfectly all the time, I don't think that's a way that you improve anything in life.
[00:10:33]  That's not how you improve a business.
[00:10:34]  That's not how you improve anything.
[00:10:36]  Marilyn says, Charlie, you're smarter than this.
[00:10:38]  The machine let DeSantis win.
[00:10:42]  All right.
[00:10:42]  Well, I don't know about that.
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[00:11:47]  So someone said, Charlie, you have flipped on us.
[00:11:49]  You're making excuses for these animals.
[00:11:52]  You might as well say Joe Biden won the 2020 election.
[00:11:55]  When did I say any of that?
[00:11:56]  That's just not true.
[00:11:58]  I'm simply saying that certain things could have been done better.
[00:12:01]  So let me ask a question.
[00:12:03]  Why is it we didn't win as many house seats that we were supposed to win?
[00:12:07]  And by the way, we're about to have an entire program about how we need to have a new election in Arizona, about how the machines broke down.
[00:12:14]  And if it's that no one wants to hear about any of it that could have gone wrong as far as our own messaging, look, I'll be very honest.
[00:12:22]  There is a candidate that I'm not going to name where there was a massive donation that was going to be given to their campaign.
[00:12:29]  And they said to the donor, I don't need the money.
[00:12:32]  It was a $5 million donation.
[00:12:33]  They said, I don't need it.
[00:12:34]  I'm going to win.
[00:12:35]  I'm not going to tell you what candidate it is.
[00:12:38]  There was a lot of cockiness around a lot of these races.
[00:12:42]  Someone says here, Charlie, I agree with the posture of being objective about wins and losses.
[00:12:49]  We have to learn how the Democrats, what they did right, and that's a smart way to move forward.
[00:12:53]  Thank you, Mike.
[00:12:54]  I appreciate it.
[00:12:55]  Look, there's things that we have to be very focused on and things we can change.
[00:13:02]  We can't change.
[00:13:02]  Charlie, my family just turned you off because of that BS from your producer.
[00:13:06]  People want to hear hope, not that crap.
[00:13:08]  It was fraud.
[00:13:09]  And if you merely mouth can't say it.
[00:13:11]  Look, we've said that, though.
[00:13:13]  Sometimes you have multiple factors that are just beyond one thing.
[00:13:18]  Sometimes you have multiple components that play into it.
[00:13:22]  This is not a program where we say that it's just a single thing.
[00:13:28]  Someone says, stop legitimizing Katie Hobbs as a winner.
[00:13:32]  Okay, Ruthie.
[00:13:33]  I mean, she says, why are you legitimizing it?
[00:13:36]  Well, I'm not actually.
[00:13:37]  I'm the one that's actually encouraging Carrie Lake to file a lawsuit, of which she has not filed yet, asking for a new election in Arizona.
[00:13:46]  I understand everyone's mad, and you guys can email me anytime, anything, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:13:51]  I just might respectfully respond to it on air.
[00:13:56]  And so someone says here, Charlie, why would the governor's race have 56,000, 47,000 more votes than the Secretary of State's race?
[00:14:02]  Well, first of all, there was some misinformation about that, about the Secretary of State's race having more than the governor's race.
[00:14:11]  That is not true.
[00:14:13]  It's not true at all.
[00:14:14]  But more people voted in the governor's race than the Treasurer's race.
[00:14:17]  You guys could check it out at the Arizona Secretary of State's website.
[00:14:20]  It's just not true.
[00:14:22]  Someone says, Charlie, I'm turning you off for good.
[00:14:24]  Well, if you're turning me off for good because I'm saying that we could have done a little better with independence, can anyone explain to me then why is it David Schweikert did three to five points better than Carrie Lake?
[00:14:38]  Can anyone explain that to me?
[00:14:40]  I can't figure it out.
[00:14:42]  Andrew, what are your thoughts?
[00:14:44]  Since somebody addressed what I said, you know, I would just say, how is it hopeful to look at the system and say it's all fraud?

=== Correcting The Misinformation (03:56) ===

[00:14:51]  We never have a chance.
[00:14:54]  That's basically what people are saying.
[00:14:55]  Yeah, when the truth is, I want to, and we're going to talk about this today.
[00:15:00]  Look at Orange County, folks.
[00:15:02]  They are harvesting down in Orange County.
[00:15:04]  The Republicans are, and they're winning late votes that are coming in.
[00:15:08]  I look at that and I see hope.
[00:15:10]  The same thing happened in New York 19.
[00:15:12]  All right.
[00:15:13]  You know, like, I'm just, you know, Molinaro, I mean, it's a little bit different system in New York, but Molinaro won in a really tight race in New York 19.
[00:15:22]  And by the way, they, guess what they did?
[00:15:24]  They were not leaving anything on the table.
[00:15:26]  They did robust by mail push and they followed up like crazy with those voters.
[00:15:30]  That's called ground game.
[00:15:31]  And guess what?
[00:15:32]  He won.
[00:15:33]  To me, I look at that and I say that's hopeful.
[00:15:35]  And Charlie, I know you're reading some of the negative emails, but I'm doing it because I want people to know that there is, it's welcome.
[00:15:41]  And I understand people are mad.
[00:15:42]  I mean, I would say I have access.
[00:15:45]  Yeah, I have access to the same inbox.
[00:15:47]  I'm looking at some of them and the vast majority of them are positive, I would say.
[00:15:50]  But I think it is instructive to say there is a part of our audience that, you know, is just down and they want to be doomer.
[00:15:57]  And I get it.
[00:15:58]  But I see some of the signs in California, New York as hopeful that we can play this game better than they can and we can turn the tide.
[00:16:07]  Yep.
[00:16:07]  I mean, and look, I read the objectional emails just so that we can have some sort of framing here.
[00:16:13]  Here's the one that says, Charlie, you sound like a rhino elite.
[00:16:16]  Wow, I haven't been called that for quite some time.
[00:16:18]  It says, stop talking about anything that we did wrong.
[00:16:21]  We ran perfect elections.
[00:16:23]  There's nothing we could have done differently.
[00:16:25]  They stole it from us.
[00:16:26]  See, I just disagree.
[00:16:27]  That's just not a good rule for life, by the way.
[00:16:30]  In life, sometimes you need to say, you know what?
[00:16:34]  They did take it from us.
[00:16:36]  It was grand larceny.
[00:16:37]  But maybe we could have done three or four things differently.
[00:16:41]  Yeah, for example, did we leave the bank, quote unquote, unprotected when somebody was able to rob it?
[00:16:48]  I'm just asking.
[00:16:49]  Someone says, stop rationalizing it.
[00:16:51]  They cheated, they cheated, they cheated, they cheated.
[00:16:54]  Okay, if that's the answer to everything, well, then I don't know.
[00:16:58]  I think that there's some things we could also learn on messaging and tabulation and whether or not we could prevent the cheating next time.
[00:17:05]  If you believe that you've always done everything perfectly, I don't know if that's actually a path to victory.
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[00:18:16]  With us now is Marjorie Taylor Green, a terrific member of the House of Representatives.
[00:18:22]  And Marjorie Taylor Green has said she is going to support Kevin McCarthy for Speaker of the House.
[00:18:29]  Congresswoman Green, congratulations on your reelection.
[00:18:32]  And tell us why you think Congressman McCarthy would be the best option for Speaker.
[00:18:38]  Well, thank you so much, Charlie.
[00:18:40]  I'm really grateful to all of everyone in my district that has supported me to send me back to Congress to represent them.

=== Uniting Behind A Leader (10:51) ===

[00:18:48]  This is unprecedented what we're going into, this razor thin majority.
[00:18:54]  And thank God we're going to have the majority because here for the past week, we haven't even been sure if that was going to happen.
[00:19:01]  We still don't know the number of seats we're going to have.
[00:19:03]  It's estimated anywhere between 218 to someone even said as high as 226.
[00:19:09]  I have a really hard time seeing that.
[00:19:10]  So everyone just keeps telling me 220 to 222-ish.
[00:19:15]  But so that means that we have no, basically no margin of error.
[00:19:20]  And that means that our conference has to be as united as possible.
[00:19:25]  And we're also have, we also have to look forward.
[00:19:27]  We're going into a presidential election in 2024.
[00:19:32]  And so what we're able to do here in our conference over the next two years really plays into our chances of winning back the White House and even taking back the Senate.
[00:19:44]  So here we are.
[00:19:45]  We're going to be Republicans in the majority.
[00:19:47]  We will not have any help in the Senate because we'll have no control there.
[00:19:51]  We'll have a Democrat-controlled White House and we will be on our own over here in the House of Representatives.
[00:19:59]  Now, I'm very much a realist.
[00:20:01]  I make decisions based on the reality that I'm in and that I'm given.
[00:20:07]  And I believe that we have to elect one speaker.
[00:20:10]  We have to unify because here's what's happening behind the scenes in the halls of Congress and in many different meetings.
[00:20:17]  We have different factions of our Republican conference that are looking to use their power, the power of a few, to challenge the leadership or challenge Kevin McCarthy in order to get what they want.
[00:20:32]  Now, the problem with that is they're also talking to Democrats, and that is extremely concerning to me.
[00:20:39]  I think after the past two years, what Democrats have done to this country and how they have treated President Trump, his administration, his supporters, and Republicans all over the country.
[00:20:49]  And I'm talking about parents at the school boards.
[00:20:52]  I'm talking about pro-life activists being, you know, having the FBI show up at their house.
[00:20:57]  I'm talking about the pre-trial January 6th defendants who have yet to see a day in court and have been held this entire time.
[00:21:05]  And just the threat, the threat to those, to conservatives, especially under the potential 87,000 IRS Army.
[00:21:14]  I think it is imperative and it's our duty as Republicans to pull ourselves together and prove to the American people that we're the party that can be trusted in the majority and that we can argue all we want to.
[00:21:29]  And believe me, I'm one of those that gets the most heated in these debates fighting for conservative values.
[00:21:34]  We are going to have to fight it out, but we're going to have to unite behind one speaker because we can't open the door to Democrats.
[00:21:42]  We cannot allow them to make deals, wheel and deal with weak Republicans in order to elect a speaker that they could all choose to deal with.
[00:21:52]  Now, here is the bargaining chip on the table.
[00:21:55]  They're talking about subpoena power.
[00:21:57]  So they're trying to make a deal with anybody they can that is willing to give up subpoena power against the Biden administration.
[00:22:05]  That means everything in Hunter Biden's laptop.
[00:22:08]  That means all of the things that the Biden administration has been doing to our country and to America.
[00:22:14]  That means all of the corruption.
[00:22:16]  So to me, electing Speaker of the House, our Speaker of the House, to me, having that gavel is all about subpoena power.
[00:22:24]  And I think everyone has to get laser focused on that.
[00:22:27]  We have to have subpoena power.
[00:22:29]  People have to be held accountable.
[00:22:32]  The American people deserve transparency.
[00:22:35]  These people that have done all of these things deserve, they deserve accountability.
[00:22:39]  And I'm talking about from everything from COVID to Afghanistan to Ukraine to Homeland Security.
[00:22:46]  And I'm talking about big tech.
[00:22:48]  I'm talking about Hunter Biden's laptop and the things that exist on that laptop that have direct connections to Joe Biden and their corrupt business dealings in foreign countries.
[00:22:58]  And so the way I see it is that it's an imperative duty of all of us to elect our speaker.
[00:23:04]  We have to elect Kevin McCarthy because he's already said publicly and promised all of us that he would support these investigations.
[00:23:11]  So let me, I just want to be clear.
[00:23:15]  And our audience, feel free to email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:23:18]  Some people are surprised, Congresswoman Green, and I'm not saying this negatively, that you would support Speaker McCarthy.
[00:23:27]  Now, to understand your argument, it's because of the circumstances, and it's also because of potentially us losing the House of Representatives if we are not able to unite behind a leader.
[00:23:39]  Now, some people in our audience are not happy about this sort of idea.
[00:23:43]  Matt Gates, who I know you respect and is a good friend of mine as well, came on the program and disagrees with this and is dead set against McCarthy.
[00:23:52]  Why do you believe, just to reinforce the argument, given the circumstances that it's best to consolidate behind McCarthy, number one?
[00:24:01]  And number two, if that happens, what assurances can you give our audience or the conservative base that meaningful things will actually get done?
[00:24:11]  Yeah, I fully understand those questions.
[00:24:13]  And listen, this is a huge risk for me to come out and say this.
[00:24:18]  But here's my promise to everyone that's listening.
[00:24:20]  Here's my promise to the district.
[00:24:22]  Here's my promise to the American people.
[00:24:24]  I'm going to do what's right no matter what.
[00:24:27]  And it may not sound good or you may not be happy about it.
[00:24:31]  But to me, electing leadership and to me pursuing a certain path or certain policies has nothing to do with popularity contest.
[00:24:41]  I don't care about that.
[00:24:42]  I didn't come to Washington to make friends.
[00:24:45]  And so that's not how I make these decisions.
[00:24:47]  I'm making these decisions because I care very much about this country and I am very realistic about the situation we all find ourselves in.
[00:24:58]  Here's the fact, Charlie, you've been on the ground in Arizona.
[00:25:01]  Our elections are totally screwed up.
[00:25:04]  I mean, we're the laughing stock of the world.
[00:25:06]  We have election fraud everywhere because we don't have election day.
[00:25:10]  We have election month.
[00:25:11]  And so for conservatives that can hear me right now, if you want to be very honest with yourself, we don't have a chance at 2024 unless we fight on every single level.
[00:25:24]  That means that people have got to keep fighting to fix your elections in your states.
[00:25:29]  And you know the states I'm talking about.
[00:25:31]  And I'm heartbroken for my dear friend, Carrie Lake, and I'm heartbroken for Arizona.
[00:25:36]  Because guess what now, Charlie?
[00:25:38]  There's going to be people being murdered coming across the border.
[00:25:41]  Migrants that Democrats supposedly care about die coming across the border.
[00:25:45]  Fentanyl is killing Americans 300 a day.
[00:25:48]  And Kerry Lake was going to fight the cartels and she was going to do everything she can to stop this invasion in Arizona.
[00:25:56]  And that's what we lost by what I'm calling election fraud.
[00:26:01]  I have no problem saying it.
[00:26:02]  These mail-in ballots are a bunch of crap and they need to end.
[00:26:05]  And then for conservatives in this country, if we care about our values and we care about winning in 2024, because let me tell you, that has to be done.
[00:26:16]  It has to be done.
[00:26:17]  And we have to fight.
[00:26:19]  We have got to figure it out.
[00:26:21]  And so in my conference, Charlie, you better bet I am going to be fighting with my colleagues.
[00:26:26]  I'm going to be explaining to them here's why we have to pursue our conservative agenda and put America first.
[00:26:33]  But I'm not willing to do a leadership challenge when it doesn't make sense.
[00:26:40]  It just doesn't make sense.
[00:26:41]  A couple of thoughts on this.
[00:26:42]  Number one, you're totally right on Arizona.
[00:26:44]  I believe Kerry Lake, beyond a shadow of a doubt, would be governor with transition teams if it wasn't for those machines that fell down, if it wasn't for all the tabulator issues, for the long lines.
[00:26:56]  Same with Abe Hamiday and all that nonsense, not to mention the illegal ballot harvesting and all that.
[00:27:00]  We've been talking about the larceny, the thievery, all of that nonsense.
[00:27:04]  We've been repeatedly talking about that.
[00:27:06]  But Congresswoman, I do want you to alleviate some of the concerns of the audience about Kevin McCarthy being a conservative, because some people say, well, Kevin McCarthy is like Paul Ryan and John Boehner.
[00:27:19]  I actually don't think that's the case, but you know a lot better than I do.
[00:27:23]  I'm not a member of Congress.
[00:27:25]  I'm just looking at this from afar.
[00:27:26]  My biggest concern, just for the audience, is that we're going to mess this up and the Democrats will take over the House because we can't choose a speaker.
[00:27:35]  So can you just talk a little bit about fulfillment of promises?
[00:27:39]  Like, for example, are we going to see subpoenas for Fauci?
[00:27:42]  Are we going to see subpoenas for Garland?
[00:27:44]  Are we going to see an investigation into mail and ballot nonsense?
[00:27:48]  Your thoughts?
[00:27:49]  Yes, absolutely.
[00:27:50]  Well, let me let people know about some things that they may not know about.
[00:27:55]  And I'm a member of House Freedom Caucus.
[00:27:58]  These are my friends.
[00:27:59]  These are my allies.
[00:28:00]  And Matt Gates is a dear friend of mine as well.
[00:28:03]  But here's, so people worry about Paul Ryan.
[00:28:06]  Kevin McCarthy is nothing like Paul Ryan.
[00:28:08]  The truth that everyone needs to understand is the Freedom Caucus are the ones that got Paul Ryan into the speaker position.
[00:28:18]  That was the Freedom Caucus because they got rid of Boehner and they elected Paul Ryan.
[00:28:23]  And that was against Kevin McCarthy to begin with.
[00:28:26]  He ended up withdrawing his name from running for speaker when the Freedom Caucus put Paul Ryan in there.
[00:28:33]  So people need to understand that Kevin McCarthy is nothing like Paul Ryan because that history exists.
[00:28:40]  And then another thing is I'm not going to sit there and go out and say that Kevin McCarthy is a conservative.
[00:28:47]  I wouldn't say that either.
[00:28:48]  But I've talked to him a lot and met with him and I'm going by the promises that he's made publicly.
[00:28:54]  And that means the American people can hold him accountable to that.
[00:28:58]  And the things that he has said publicly is he's getting rid of the IRS army, 87,000.
[00:29:03]  That's gone.
[00:29:04]  He has said publicly that we're going to do all of these investigations into everything you just named.
[00:29:12]  We are definitely doing these investigations and he's allowing the chairman of the committees to run it.
[00:29:17]  I'm very excited to serve on oversight.
[00:29:20]  That's the committee I've asked for and no one has told me no about anything.
[00:29:26]  I am going to be pursuing many things and I'm thrilled to be able to do that.
[00:29:30]  But I also want everyone to realize this.
[00:29:34]  There is negotiations going on with the rules package that Freedom Caucus has presented.

=== Excitement For Oversight Role (02:42) ===

[00:29:40]  And I think that's extremely important.
[00:29:43]  These things are important and this is healthy.
[00:29:46]  And I've always said, Charlie, that we do have like a civil war in our GOP, meaning an ideology, fighting out of who we are.
[00:29:54]  I want the GOP.
[00:29:55]  I want the Republican Party to be America first.
[00:29:57]  That's all I want.
[00:29:58]  I'm sick and tired of the never-ending foreign wars.
[00:30:01]  I've voted no to every single penny on Ukraine from the beginning, day one.
[00:30:06]  I think we need, I just walked out on the House floor before I called you and I gave a speech calling for an audit into the money that has been sent to Ukraine and the aid money.
[00:30:15]  We need transparency there because we know exactly what's happening with some of that money and it's supporting Democrat campaigns like we have learned.
[00:30:24]  But these are the things that I can commit to you is I'm not standing behind any one person.
[00:30:30]  I'm standing behind the American people.
[00:30:32]  And I am willing to do that in every single way, even when they're going, why is she doing that?
[00:30:39]  Just watch me.
[00:30:40]  Give this some time.
[00:30:42]  And I assure you, the people questioning me and concerned about me will be happy.
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=== Fighting As Hard As Possible (03:21) ===

[00:32:22]  Because I think one of the reasons why people are so upset and are so skeptical is because of promises that haven't been fulfilled.
[00:32:31]  What does it look like then, Congresswoman Green, if Speaker McCarthy, if Kevin McCarthy becomes Speaker, what does that look like from a subpoena and investigation standpoint?
[00:32:40]  What assurances can you give our audience?
[00:32:43]  I can give everybody 100% assurance if Kevin McCarthy becomes Speaker because he will have the gavel that our committees will lead into investigations.
[00:32:53]  So that means subpoena power.
[00:32:54]  And those subpoenas will be used against the Biden administration.
[00:32:58]  It will be used against all of the corruption that everyone has been upset about over the past two years.
[00:33:05]  And I haven't been told no on one single thing.
[00:33:09]  And I think that's what people need to focus on.
[00:33:11]  What terrifies me is I just heard my colleague, Bob Good, who is leading this effort, one of the leaders of this effort, say that he would vote with the Democrats.
[00:33:22]  I didn't even know he'd said that.
[00:33:24]  And that shocks me.
[00:33:25]  It shocks me just the same as I heard Don Bacon tell a reporter outside the House chamber the other night that he would also talk to the Democrats about electing a speaker.
[00:33:35]  These are things people are saying out loud on interviews.
[00:33:39]  Imagine what they're saying behind closed doors.
[00:33:42]  And, you know, I'm very realistic, Charlie, about the situation that we are in.
[00:33:48]  And a razor-thin majority means that we have to get our act together.
[00:33:52]  It means that the Republican Conference has a responsibility to not fall apart fighting with one another to where we come to gridlock and can't accomplish anything.
[00:34:03]  We have to act like adults and professionals, and we have to work together, present an agenda that serves America first.
[00:34:10]  And I'll be fighting as hard as possible to make that as conservative as we possibly can.
[00:34:15]  But we are stuck in this position because of our horrible election systems and the fact that redistricting happened after the census was done pre-COVID.
[00:34:25]  And so many people moved.
[00:34:27]  So many people moved.
[00:34:28]  And we won the popular vote, but yet we couldn't deliver more House seats and we couldn't deliver more wins and governorships and Senate seats, which is devastating.
[00:34:38]  And one thing that also people need to understand this is Nancy Pelosi had 32 no votes in her conference and she didn't even have a challenger.
[00:34:49]  32 no votes and no challenger.
[00:34:51]  And then they elected her on January 3rd of 2021, which was to me one of the most devastating things to happen to our country.
[00:35:00]  Paul Ryan had 43 no votes and he did have a challenger, but they elected him.
[00:35:06]  And again, that was Freedom Caucus that gave us Paul Ryan.
[00:35:09]  Unfortunately, and I'm not happy about that.
[00:35:13]  And then he did nothing.
[00:35:14]  They did nothing.
[00:35:15]  They didn't repeal Obamacare.
[00:35:16]  They didn't fund the wall.
[00:35:18]  They didn't repeal $500 million given to Planned Parenthood.
[00:35:22]  To me, these are Republican failures that we cannot allow to happen anymore.
[00:35:27]  But the worst thing we could ever do is fight so much among ourselves and create so much drama.
[00:35:33]  And the American people are sick and tired of the drama that we totally turn people off from the Republican Party when we desperately need our voters going into 2024.

=== Playing Within The Guidelines (00:39) ===

[00:35:44]  And so that's how I see it.
[00:35:45]  I'm going to play on the playing field that I am standing on, and I'm going to have to play within the guidelines that I'm forced to exist in.
[00:35:53]  But that means I'm going to play as hard as possible.
[00:35:56]  And we're going to win, Charlie.
[00:35:57]  We are going to win.
[00:35:58]  And we're going to do a damn good job that people will be proud of.
[00:36:02]  Marjorie Taylor Greene, thank you for joining us.
[00:36:04]  Really appreciate it.
[00:36:05]  Thank you.
[00:36:06]  Thank you.
[00:36:09]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:36:11]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:36:14]  Thank you so much for listening.
[00:36:15]  God bless.
[00:36:19]  For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.