The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Kirk Show 127: Trump or DeSantis? Why Can't We Count Ballots on Election Day? Is Democracy a Good Idea? The Race Lady Fired from MSNBC? And MORE
Aired: 2022-11-07
Duration: 33:40


=== Grassroots Activism for Democracy (09:54) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:00]  Happy Monday.
[00:00:01]  Ask Me Anything episode.
[00:00:02]  Is democracy a good idea?
[00:00:03]  What's going on with the midterms?
[00:00:04]  The race lady fired from SNBC and so much more.
[00:00:07]  You can email me your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:00:09]  Get involved with turningpointusa at tpusa.com.
[00:00:12]  Get involved with turningpointaction at tpaction.com.
[00:00:15]  That is tpaction.com.
[00:00:18]  As always, you can email me your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com, and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast by opening up your podcast app and typing in Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:00:27]  We are literally less than 24 hours from the Republic being decided.
[00:00:31]  The country that so many have sacrificed for is right here.
[00:00:35]  The elections matter a lot.
[00:00:37]  Is it everything?
[00:00:38]  Of course not.
[00:00:39]  The battle continues after the election.
[00:00:40]  But boy, I'm telling you right now, write down people that you know, hairdressers, friends, cousins, neighbors, sons, daughters, and be your own get out the vote machine.
[00:00:54]  Be the change you want to see.
[00:00:57]  Work hard, push harder.
[00:00:59]  We could do this.
[00:01:00]  We need a massive red wave.
[00:01:02]  We need everybody to show up on election day, bigger than ever before.
[00:01:05]  I'm telling you, we stay at home, we lose.
[00:01:07]  It's that simple.
[00:01:08]  The numbers are within striking distance.
[00:01:09]  I am worried that we are not showing up in big enough numbers.
[00:01:12]  I hope it happens.
[00:01:13]  Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:01:15]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:01:16]  Here, we go.
[00:01:17]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:01:18]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:01:20]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:01:24]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:01:27]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:01:28]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:01:29]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:01:38]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:46]  That's why we are here.
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[00:01:58]  I would be lying if I wasn't going to tell you guys we are exhausted over here.
[00:02:03]  We had two events yesterday.
[00:02:05]  We had a couple events the day before.
[00:02:07]  Tomorrow we have an event Saturday morning in Scottsdale.
[00:02:11]  And then we're hustling on over as quick as we can.
[00:02:13]  Try to get there by late evening to help with Ron DeSantis and Anna Paulina.
[00:02:18]  And then I'm going and giving two sermons in New Mexico at Steve Smotherman's Church, which is going to be trying to get the Christian church to really rise up and vote on Tuesday.
[00:02:28]  It's going to be a clarion call for the Christian church.
[00:02:31]  And then we are doing door knocking all weekend at Turning Point Action in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Ohio, and Arizona.
[00:02:41]  Turning Point Pack, we are up with advertisements all over the valley.
[00:02:46]  In fact, we have advertisements for Turning Point Pack for Blake Masters, for Kerry Lake, for Mark Fincham.
[00:02:53]  We're doing things for Oz.
[00:02:54]  We're doing things for Mastriano.
[00:02:55]  We're doing things for JD Vance.
[00:02:56]  So we're exhausted.
[00:02:58]  And by the way, while we're hosting this program, and as we are doing this, more articles are published.
[00:03:05]  Literally, we can't keep up with it.
[00:03:07]  There's more attack pieces that are written about us.
[00:03:09]  This one calling me a heretic of some pastor that I've never heard of in Arizona.
[00:03:15]  What did he say?
[00:03:16]  He said, I am participating in biblical malpractice.
[00:03:20]  And that is a very strong accusation to throw at somebody that pastoral malpractice.
[00:03:26]  I'm sorry, against somebody he's never met.
[00:03:29]  And so he says, we call it proof texting.
[00:03:31]  This pastor, he attacks me in the Arizona Republic, of which I don't have any opportunity to respond.
[00:03:37]  I don't have any opportunity by anybody to be able to like tell my side of the story.
[00:03:42]  And so I commonly quote Jeremiah 29, 7, which one reading is also seek the peace and prosperity of the city of which I have carried you into exile.
[00:03:50]  Pray for the Lord for it because it prospers and you two will prosper.
[00:03:52]  Okay.
[00:03:53]  So I commonly use that.
[00:03:54]  And one interpretation of the Hebrew word seek, which is the word darash, also can meet to demand, to surely require, to not just to seek after, but to even say require.
[00:04:08]  And he says in Hebrew, this pastor says, I am participating in theological malpractice because I don't take the type of translation that he likes in Darash, Hebrew.
[00:04:22]  Okay, anyway, that's just a side note.
[00:04:24]  These articles of which we never get a chance to respond to are written about the work that Teep USA Faith is doing, not a political organization at all, all educational, all about that stuff.
[00:04:32]  Okay, let's get to some questions here.
[00:04:35]  Nathan from Tennessee.
[00:04:36]  Charlie, I'm really worried that it's going to take a while for us to count all the ballots.
[00:04:41]  What are your thoughts on that?
[00:04:43]  Doesn't it open the window for cheating?
[00:04:46]  Yes, it does.
[00:04:46]  Play cut 97.
[00:04:49]  In Pennsylvania, counties are only able to start processing at 7 a.m. on election day.
[00:04:54]  98 to 99% of the votes will be counted by Friday of Election Week.
[00:05:00]  That means in some cases, we won't know the winner of the election for a few days until a few days after the election.
[00:05:07]  It takes time to count all legitimate ballots.
[00:05:10]  It doesn't mean there's anything nefarious that's happening with the election system.
[00:05:15]  Somebody has got to answer the question or ask the question.
[00:05:18]  Why is it in 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016, and largely 2018, we were able to get election results instantaneously?
[00:05:32]  Why is it that 10 years ago, we all remember, or six years ago, when Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, why is it that we were able to have election results right there or 100 years ago?
[00:05:45]  And now all of a sudden they have to take more time.
[00:05:47]  Why can nobody answer that question?
[00:05:51]  You got to outvote the fraud.
[00:05:52]  It's that simple.
[00:05:53]  We have to rise up in record numbers.
[00:05:54]  Every single person hearing my voice, you need to vote and get five others to do the same.
[00:05:59]  You do that, the Republic is going to be saved.
[00:06:01]  The math is very simple.
[00:06:02]  We have a massive audience.
[00:06:04]  Praise God.
[00:06:04]  Millions of listeners, cumulative throughout the week, your podcasting, radio, all that.
[00:06:08]  If every one of you multiply your impact by four or five, it's it.
[00:06:11]  The Republic is saved.
[00:06:12]  The Democrat Party's on the ropes and we are on the verge of an annihilation event of the Democrat Party.
[00:06:16]  However, if we stay at home and we sit on our hands, they have a chance to sneak away and it won't be that good.
[00:06:21]  It'll be a little red ripple.
[00:06:22]  Look at the little red ripple.
[00:06:24]  So it's a big concern.
[00:06:25]  I share that concern, but the only way to do that is show up in person and shock the world.
[00:06:32]  Remember when Joe Biden says that we'll make sure no one has the opportunity to steal an election again, play cut 117.
[00:06:38]  My friends, we offer a starkly different version and vision of this country, a vision of a better America that's within our reach.
[00:06:46]  That's within our hands.
[00:06:48]  If we just vote, if we elect two more senators, we keep the House and Democrats.
[00:06:53]  We're going to get a lot of unfinished business.
[00:06:55]  We're going to get done.
[00:06:57]  We'll protect voting rights.
[00:06:58]  We'll pass election report and make sure no one, no one ever has an opportunity to steal an election again.
[00:07:05]  Steal an election again?
[00:07:08]  Well, that sounds like an election denier.
[00:07:10]  So why is Joe Biden able to say that elections have been stolen in the past?
[00:07:14]  Why is Joe Biden allowed to say that elections can be taken away?
[00:07:20]  Oh, okay.
[00:07:21]  So it's okay for Democrats to say that elections can be stolen, but Republicans can't ask questions.
[00:07:27]  Got it.
[00:07:28]  Got another question here.
[00:07:29]  Charlie, do you think Trump is running in 2024?
[00:07:32]  I've heard conflicting remarks.
[00:07:34]  Yes, Trump is running.
[00:07:35]  Therefore, if every, here's the math.
[00:07:36]  If every person who voted for Donald Trump, which is not, you're not going to get a one-to-one ratio, but if 80% of the people that voted for Donald Trump in 2020, which is conceivable, show up and vote for Republicans this midterms, we wipe them out.
[00:07:48]  The early voting is right there in striking distance.
[00:07:50]  It's right there.
[00:07:51]  All we need is for every MAGA supporter, independence to go our way, bump, done.
[00:07:54]  Latinos, white, upper-middle-class women are coming our way.
[00:07:57]  Black voters are more coming our way than they have previously, but it's not going to be a big landslide in that way.
[00:08:03]  We need every real supporter, every Trump supporter, every person that is in that direction to show up.
[00:08:07]  And you have a reason to do that.
[00:08:08]  If you are the biggest Donald Trump fan and you're listening right now, he needs a Congress to work with.
[00:08:12]  Play Cut 123.
[00:08:15]  And now, in order to make our country successful and safe and glorious, I will very, very, very probably do it again, okay?
[00:08:26]  Very, very, very.
[00:08:28]  Get ready.
[00:08:29]  That's all I'm telling you.
[00:08:30]  Very soon.
[00:08:31]  Get ready.
[00:08:33]  And so for every Trump supporter out there, that's a reason for you to show up and vote.
[00:08:37]  That's a reason for you to go to outvote the fraud on election day.
[00:08:42]  It is a once-in-a-generation chance to crush the Democrat Party, to annihilate them.
[00:08:49]  And this weekend, you have an opportunity to expand your influence.
[00:08:53]  You have an opportunity to knock on more doors, get more people to be able to see things the way you see them.
[00:09:00]  Knock on doors, phone bank.
[00:09:02]  It is the grassroots activism.
[00:09:04]  It is the grassroots engagement that is going to bring this thing across the finish line.
[00:09:08]  That's precisely what we're doing at Turning Point Action.
[00:09:11]  And at Turning Point Pack, we're up with about half a million dollars in new advertising supporting all the good candidates that all of you guys enjoy and that you appreciate.
[00:09:20]  Let's go to another question here.
[00:09:24]  Hey, Charlie, did you see the clip where Joe Biden said that he met the guy who invented insulin?
[00:09:29]  I can't believe this guy's our president.
[00:09:30]  Yes, let's play Cut 79.
[00:09:32]  How many of you know somebody with diabetes who needs insulin?
[00:09:35]  You know how much it costs to make that insulin drug for diabetes?
[00:09:39]  Cost.
[00:09:40]  It was invented by a man who did not patent it because he wanted it available for everyone.
[00:09:44]  I spoke to him.
[00:09:45]  Okay.
[00:09:48]  The guy who discovered, not invented, you don't invent insulin, okay?
[00:09:52]  It's a natural hormone.

=== Supporting Good Candidates Nationwide (08:10) ===

[00:09:55]  He died in 1941, and Joe Biden was born in 1942.
[00:09:58]  So maybe Joe Biden is speaking to the dead in some sort of bizarre Native American, I don't know, ghost whispering ritual.
[00:10:05]  I'm not sure.
[00:10:07]  Joe Biden just makes this stuff up.
[00:10:08]  By the way, Joe Biden recently, didn't he say that his son died in Iraq?
[00:10:12]  Which is not true, okay?
[00:10:15]  Jeez.
[00:10:17]  How about this one?
[00:10:18]  Play Cut 82.
[00:10:19]  Gays and gentlemen, here's the deal.
[00:10:22]  It's a difficult time.
[00:10:24]  Gays and gentlemen, that is the new way that Joe Biden introduces.
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[00:12:00]  I just want to side note here.
[00:12:02]  Someone says, Charlie, you know, how do you keep going?
[00:12:05]  It's really been, it's something.
[00:12:06]  It's been a very challenging season in the sense of the travel and of just the vigor.
[00:12:14]  I have to just thank our amazing tech team.
[00:12:16]  They've been doing such a great job.
[00:12:18]  And our production team here in the chat, I don't think we've missed a show in quite a while.
[00:12:24]  I was actually looking at the schedule.
[00:12:26]  I can't remember the last day I took a show off.
[00:12:28]  I mean, sure, it was recent, but it doesn't feel recent.
[00:12:32]  But we've been, I think it's been almost a month and a half.
[00:12:36]  I could be wrong.
[00:12:37]  But it seems like it's been a while.
[00:12:40]  And the team really makes it great.
[00:12:42]  I got to say, I don't want to say all their names on air because the maggots, they love taking notes and auditing people.
[00:12:49]  So we'll remain mysterious of everyone there on the team, but they are very much appreciated and they work very hard.
[00:12:57]  And we have a great team and we have great friends that support us and pray for us.
[00:13:00]  And it really does make life easier.
[00:13:03]  And when you're on the road as much as we are, we've been everywhere.
[00:13:06]  I mean, oh, my goodness, we've been North Carolina, we've been in Florida, we've been in the Midwest, we've been in Colorado, we've been all over the place.
[00:13:12]  And I was looking at the schedule.
[00:13:14]  I don't think we've missed a live broadcast in quite some time.
[00:13:16]  And we've been staying on that three podcasts a day.
[00:13:19]  We had to do some things here and there where we pre-taped third hours, but we've really been there.
[00:13:24]  One of the reasons, and I, you know, it's not that we're not able to take days off when we travel and stuff.
[00:13:28]  It's just that it's harder, obviously, you know, when you're traveling and you're doing things to kind of do the show.
[00:13:34]  But I felt really important and really called this last month for the election just to continue to pound and to get the message out and to just stay very focused on making sure you guys get the information you need and to make sure that the energy continues to build.
[00:13:48]  And so here we are right on the doorstep.
[00:13:51]  And I will be taking a couple of days.
[00:13:53]  It's not fair to say I'm taking the days off, actually.
[00:13:56]  I'm going to the United Kingdom to go do a keynote address in Cambridge, a debate in Oxford, and I'm doing it all within like 48 hours.
[00:14:05]  I'm in and out.
[00:14:06]  So that's not exactly taking the day off or the days off, but that will be, I think it's the week after the election.
[00:14:13]  Hopefully we know who's won by then, but we'll figure it out.
[00:14:16]  But thank you guys for your prayers and your support.
[00:14:17]  It means a lot.
[00:14:18]  Okay.
[00:14:18]  Freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:14:19]  Let's get to some more questions here.
[00:14:23]  Charlie, I'm wholly supportive of President Trump and voted for him in 2020, but I'm concerned that he maybe has too much negative baggage to win in 2024.
[00:14:31]  He's also older, which could further hamper his chances.
[00:14:34]  I know you support him.
[00:14:35]  I know you'll support him and honor your word, and I totally respect that.
[00:14:38]  Thank you.
[00:14:39]  But there are Republicans and even conservatives who don't trust him, and it's bad for him to run again.
[00:14:43]  I almost dread the primaries if he runs.
[00:14:45]  Can you discuss this issue a little bit, Jeff?
[00:14:47]  Yeah, Jeff, I will build that out, but I will say that this is probably a better topic to cover after the primaries.
[00:14:55]  But look, I get asked the question all the time, Charlie, Ron DeSantis or Trump and all this.
[00:14:58]  I say, look, very clear.
[00:15:00]  I'm a loyal guy, and I gave my word to Donald Trump that if he runs, I have his back 100%.
[00:15:06]  I'm not someone that forgets friends or people that help me.
[00:15:09]  He was very helpful to me.
[00:15:10]  He was very generous to me.
[00:15:12]  He's a good person.
[00:15:13]  He's a fighter for America.
[00:15:15]  He loves this country.
[00:15:16]  And I don't just turn the page on that because there's a new flavor of the month.
[00:15:19]  Sorry.
[00:15:20]  And by the way, he's going to be the nominee.
[00:15:21]  And I think he's going to be the next president.
[00:15:23]  He's tough.
[00:15:24]  He fights like heck.
[00:15:26]  He loves America.
[00:15:27]  And so that's my own personal thing.
[00:15:28]  But also, I'm not just doing it out of just a blind sense of loyalty.
[00:15:32]  It's also he was a great president and he'll be another great president.
[00:15:35]  This Ukrainian debacle will be ended in an afternoon.
[00:15:38]  We'll be energy independent again overnight.
[00:15:40]  Our economy will be roaring.
[00:15:42]  We're going to get back to actually a place of excellence and of strength.
[00:15:48]  And you look at the electoral map.
[00:15:49]  It's very simple.
[00:15:50]  Here's the electoral map.
[00:15:51]  I'm looking at it right now.
[00:15:52]  You go to 2702win.com.
[00:15:54]  People ask Ultimate 2024, and it does actually play into the midterm, so it's not completely irrelevant.
[00:15:59]  But here's the thing: it's very simple.
[00:16:00]  Donald Trump will win Arizona.
[00:16:02]  Okay?
[00:16:03]  Turning point PAC and my own self live in here.
[00:16:06]  We're not going to let anything else happen.
[00:16:07]  Okay?
[00:16:08]  We're going to work like heck.
[00:16:09]  We're going to hope the voters make the right decisions.
[00:16:11]  And I believe Donald Trump will win the state of Arizona.
[00:16:13]  Okay.
[00:16:14]  I think Donald Trump can win Wisconsin.
[00:16:16]  And that's it.
[00:16:18]  He'll win Iowa, North Carolina, and Florida comfortably.
[00:16:21]  That's it.
[00:16:21]  It's two states, and he's president.
[00:16:23]  If Donald Trump can win Wisconsin and Arizona, he's president of the United States.
[00:16:28]  In addition to all the other states that he has to win, but Florida, deep red.
[00:16:32]  North Carolina, it's going to be fine.
[00:16:33]  Ohio, forget it.
[00:16:35]  Iowa, forget it.
[00:16:37]  So it's Arizona and Wisconsin.
[00:16:39]  And we're living in one of those states.
[00:16:42]  There would be no America First Movement without Trump.
[00:16:44]  There would be no Kerry Lake.
[00:16:46]  There would be none of these people.
[00:16:47]  And I love Kerry.
[00:16:48]  I just don't think any of these people would have the platform or the power that they're about to have thanks to Donald Trump.
[00:16:53]  And you got to honor that.
[00:16:54]  And so people say, he can't win the presidency.
[00:16:56]  Like, just calm down.
[00:16:57]  Stop listening to your chattering class, overly college-educated liberal friends in New York and LA.
[00:17:02]  Okay.
[00:17:02]  Like just talked about the states that matter, okay?
[00:17:04]  Arizona and Wisconsin.
[00:17:06]  Can Donald Trump win those two states?
[00:17:08]  Oh, he's won them before.
[00:17:09]  Done.
[00:17:09]  End of story.
[00:17:11]  I never want to hear again that Donald Trump's unelected.
[00:17:13]  It's just wrong.
[00:17:14]  Okay.
[00:17:15]  Just get out of the matrix and look at those two states.
[00:17:17]  Can Donald Trump win the state of Wisconsin?
[00:17:19]  And can Donald Trump win the state of Arizona?
[00:17:21]  By the way, those just the polling right now shows Donald Trump eight points on Joe Biden in some of those polls.
[00:17:26]  That's it.
[00:17:27]  He becomes president.
[00:17:29]  And I think he will again.
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[00:18:41]  William from Davenport, Iowa.
[00:18:44]  I know Davenport very well.
[00:18:46]  It's a great spot.
[00:18:47]  It's part of the quad cities.
[00:18:49]  Rock Island, Moline, and Bedendorf.
[00:18:52]  Four great cities right there.
[00:18:53]  Anyway, says, Charlie, did you see that the race lady got fired from TV?
[00:18:58]  MSNBC, what are your thoughts?
[00:19:00]  Love your program.
[00:19:01]  I'm trying to get my cousin to start a Turning Point USA chapter.
[00:19:06]  Well, thank you.
[00:19:07]  You could do that at tpusa.com.
[00:19:10]  Okay, so there is this host that he's talking about, the race lady.
[00:19:14]  There's two race ladies, actually.
[00:19:16]  Tiffany Cross is one of them.
[00:19:18]  And she has been fanning anti-white hatred on MSNBC for years.
[00:19:24]  She's had a weekend show for two years.
[00:19:26]  And she's not as well known, nowhere near as popular as Joy Reed, but she's worse.
[00:19:33]  She is worse than Joy Reed.
[00:19:36]  And so Tiffany Cross has been saying the most outrageous, outlandish things on television for quite some time and just getting away with it.
[00:19:47]  And so this kind of goes to this theme, though, that there is a kind of growing genre, it seems, on weekends and, you know, kind of the lesser watched kind of portions of cable television where they just put these unbelievably extreme, radical, critical race theorist believing, post-modernist, post-structural espousing anchors.
[00:20:15]  And Tiffany Cross is one of them.
[00:20:18]  And so Tiffany Cross from MSNBC has officially been fired.
[00:20:24]  And I just want to give a little bit of a taste, though, of kind of the nonsense that has been spewed on MSNBC more generally.
[00:20:33]  Now, this is not Tiffany Cross.
[00:20:34]  We're actually getting some of the clips of Tiffany Cross here.
[00:20:40]  So we do have a clip here, 126.
[00:20:42]  All right, let's play cut 126.
[00:20:45]  How do we as a country protect this democracy when these folks don't like the outcome of the next election?
[00:20:52]  And Jasmine, you know, you're running for Congress in Texas where this is a problem, where they have partisan poll watchers that opens Terry's state.
[00:21:00]  It's a very fragile situation that we're in right now.
[00:21:03]  It is a war.
[00:21:04]  It is indeed a war.
[00:21:04]  And I have to say, they have won some battles, Jasmine, but we have to keep our eye on the war and everybody needs to pick up a weapon and get involved because this is for the safety and lasting of the country.
[00:21:18]  Pick up a weapon and get involved.
[00:21:20]  And everyone like nods along.
[00:21:21]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:21:22]  Who's the domestic violent extremist exactly?
[00:21:25]  Pick up a weapon and get involved.
[00:21:26]  When was that clip, by the way?
[00:21:28]  That was recent?
[00:21:28]  Yeah, we need to pick up a weapon and get involved.
[00:21:30]  Meanwhile, we're the ones that get labeled as domestic violent extremists.
[00:21:34]  Yeah, okay.
[00:21:36]  It was January, just a couple months ago.
[00:21:37]  Thank you.
[00:21:38]  Cut 125 is her race stuff.
[00:21:42]  This is so bad.
[00:21:42]  Play cut 125.
[00:21:44]  Us have seen the dangers when powerful white people decide they won something, they annex it.
[00:21:48]  And they've never had a problem replacing the people who stand in their way.
[00:21:52]  We see American white people are going crazy.
[00:21:56]  They're going there resorting to violence.
[00:21:58]  This is literally what conservative white folks do when they don't get their way.
[00:22:02]  They turn violent.
[00:22:04]  White people deputizing themselves in some position of authority to have jurisdiction over their life when they need to mind their blanking business.
[00:22:13]  Yeah, you white person, mind your blanking business.
[00:22:15]  By the way, you know how racist it is to believe that, oh, white people want to annex stuff?
[00:22:20]  I mean, what kind of ridiculous line of thinking is this?
[00:22:22]  Well, she's now fired and for good reason.
[00:22:26]  And by the way, her kind of counterpart, Joy Reed, who now has to bring, has to anchor the entire MSNBC lineup.
[00:22:34]  But you know what's so interesting, though, is that, again, I'm not, I hate playing the race card, calling people racist, race, race.
[00:22:40]  It is actually very effective because it's true because the left, they are really racist.
[00:22:43]  But I'm going to only do this because it is so transparently important and provable is that kind of the anchors of MSNBC, the main drivers, are all elite white liberals.
[00:22:55]  They're all elite white liberals.
[00:22:57]  If you look at the MSNBC, you got Lawrence O'Donnell, you got Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow that you, you know, if you don't have your contacts in, you can mix them up in a lineup like that.
[00:23:05]  They're almost interchangeable parts, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow.
[00:23:08]  Who's more masculine, more feminine?
[00:23:09]  I don't know.
[00:23:10]  Kind of like that SNL skit.
[00:23:11]  What was that SNL skit?
[00:23:13]  Was it, what was that?
[00:23:16]  Is it a man or is it a woman?
[00:23:17]  What's the name of that?
[00:23:18]  It was not, it was some interchangeable name.
[00:23:20]  Pat, thank you.
[00:23:21]  That's right.
[00:23:22]  Whoever was in my ear, it was Pat.
[00:23:24]  We should get a clip of Pat.
[00:23:25]  That's MSNBC.
[00:23:26]  You guys got to pull that up.
[00:23:27]  That is MSNBC in a nutshell right there.
[00:23:30]  Is it a boy?
[00:23:30]  Is it a girl?
[00:23:31]  I don't know.
[00:23:31]  It's Rachel Maddow.
[00:23:32]  It's Chris Hayes.
[00:23:33]  We can't tell.
[00:23:35]  And so MSNBC is collapsing under its own weight.
[00:23:38]  Joy Reed is now spreading a conspiracy theory.
[00:23:42]  I mean, it's amazing people listen to this and it actually gives me hope.
[00:23:46]  This stuff actually really isn't that popular.
[00:23:47]  It is not popular television.
[00:23:49]  It's not well consumed.
[00:23:51]  It isn't at all.
[00:23:52]  Where is the clip of Joy Reed?
[00:23:53]  Ah, my favorite clip.
[00:23:54]  This is my favorite one of the entire week.
[00:23:56]  You guys can write it down.
[00:23:57]  Joy Reed explaining that the term inflation is a conspiracy theory.
[00:24:05]  Play Cut 127.
[00:24:06]  Only people I ever hear use the word inflation are journalists and economists, right?
[00:24:13]  So that is not part of the normal lexicon of the way people talk.
[00:24:17]  But what they've done is they've taught people the word inflation, right?
[00:24:21]  Most people who would have never used that word ever in their lives are using it now because they've been taught it, including on TV, including in newspapers.
[00:24:29]  They've been taught this word and they sort of wrap this word around whatever it is that they really want to vote.
[00:24:35]  Yeah.
[00:24:36]  So, yeah, we taught people the word.
[00:24:38]  Okay, listen, Joy Reed.
[00:24:39]  The reason why it probably wasn't part of the lexicon is there really wasn't much inflation that was noticeable the last 10 or 15 years.
[00:24:45]  People are getting crushed by inflation.
[00:24:46]  And yes, they know what inflation is.
[00:24:49]  Daily Beast columnist tweeted out white nationalist Tucker Carlson hits Tiffany Cross recently and accuses her of fueling a race war.
[00:24:56]  She got deluged with hate and criticism.
[00:24:58]  Now she's out at MSNBC.
[00:25:00]  Contract not renewed.
[00:25:01]  Timing is terrible.
[00:25:01]  Protect Joy Reed, a unicorn, a black female anchor on cable news.
[00:25:04]  Now, there are other black female anchors in cable news.
[00:25:07]  There's Don Lamon.
[00:25:08]  There's Harrison Faulkner, who's amazing on Fox News.
[00:25:12]  There's all sorts of different ones.
[00:25:13]  So, I mean, come on.
[00:25:15]  There's plenty of black women on television.
[00:25:18]  And by the way, Faulkner, she's a great American.
[00:25:22]  And she's tough, a lot tougher than Don Lamont.
[00:25:25]  I'll tell you what.
[00:25:25]  She's a great American.
[00:25:26]  She's always treated me really well.
[00:25:27]  I really like her.
[00:25:28]  The Faulkner Focus is a great program, and she does a great job in outnumbered.
[00:25:31]  So anyway, Tiffany Cross is gone.
[00:25:34]  And praise God for that.
[00:25:36]  She is a bad person.
[00:25:39]  Okay, let's get to another question here.
[00:25:41]  Charlie, I hear a lot from the Democrats about how we are a threat to democracy.
[00:25:47]  You said earlier in the week that democracy is a bad idea.
[00:25:52]  That is quite a claim.
[00:25:54]  I trust you, but I'm a little uncertain of what that actually means.
[00:25:58]  Please help me understand.
[00:26:00]  Timothy from Louisiana.
[00:26:02]  Okay, there's a piece of tape here that I do want to play of is so extraordinary.
[00:26:07]  This guy's allegedly a historian.
[00:26:10]  I mean, that's what's so incredible about this is that these people actually have legitimate credentials and they say the most outrageous things.
[00:26:18]  I mean, you wonder, how are they going to outdo themselves at the highest level of threshold?
[00:26:23]  Or how are they going to react when legitimate tyranny actually comes to our country?
[00:26:29]  Which already is actually in our country right now, I should say.
[00:26:32]  So what is the tape here of this historian guy on MSNBC?
[00:26:35]  This guy wins hyperbole of the week, and it is so reckless and it is so dangerous to talk like this.
[00:26:42]  And they're accusing us of raising the temperature.
[00:26:46]  They're accusing us of trying to heighten people's, let's just say, engagement or awareness or trying to make people more radical than ever before.
[00:26:58]  This is so irresponsible for him to say it.
[00:27:00]  Play cut 118.
[00:27:02]  A historian will say what was at stake tonight and this week was the fact whether we will be a democracy in the future, whether our children will be arrested and conceivably killed.
[00:27:14]  We're on the edge of a brutal authoritarian system, and it could be a week away.
[00:27:20]  He's a very, he's a disturbed person.
[00:27:22]  You cannot go on television and basically says everyone's going to die if you do not vote for Democrats.
[00:27:30]  That's basically the essence of it.
[00:27:32]  He weaves it in.
[00:27:33]  He talks about democracy and he talks about how what is on the ballot is democracy and Democrats are making a fatal error.
[00:27:40]  They are engaging in Kind of the ultimate political mistake of making things too abstract and they're making them too distant and too foreign.
[00:27:54]  Talking about an academic theory of democracy.
[00:27:57]  So the word democracy has two general meanings.
[00:28:00]  One is popular government where the population is involved in ruling itself.
[00:28:03]  And the other one comes in wide usage with FDR contrasting America with the National Socialist Worker Party and Truman contrasting America with the Soviet Union.
[00:28:12]  The second meaning of the word democracy is an actual form of government, such as in Athens, demos meaning people or occracy meaning rule, so rule of the people.
[00:28:20]  This only works on a very small scale, such as a city-state, as every citizen had to be physically present at basically all the meetings where they talked about every single issue.
[00:28:29]  When it gets any larger than that, it starts to break down.
[00:28:32]  If someone was not present at the meeting, they would then have to rely on messengers who could twist what information was talked about.
[00:28:37]  This would effectively make those who relay the information as the true rulers.
[00:28:41]  So the messengers become the rulers.
[00:28:42]  Democracies, as we study throughout time, were susceptible to rapid changes, emotional manipulation, mob frenzy, which Socrates, who taught Plato, who then taught Aristotle, witnessed in the killing of an admiral who was not able to rescue all the sailors who had fallen overboard during a storm and battle.
[00:28:59]  Plato famously said that democracies are doomed to fail because they're based on people having virtue and people really don't have any virtue because if you give people a choice of giving up their virtue or giving up their life, they'll always give up their virtue to save their life.
[00:29:13]  He's right.
[00:29:13]  Republics, in contrast, of which I'm a fan of and you should be a supporter of as well, in contrast, are where you take care of your family and farm and have someone in your place go to the market and talk politics every day.
[00:29:24]  A good way to remember what a republic is, is it begins with rep, and representative begins with rep. So a republican form of government is one of representatives.
[00:29:32]  Republics were slower in making changes as they were one step removed from the passions of the people.
[00:29:38]  I'm going to keep on diving into this, but yes, democracy is a bad idea because it is unsustainable.
[00:29:43]  A republic is what we have, and I pray we can keep it.
[00:29:46]  When I say democracy is a bad idea, people misinterpret that.
[00:29:49]  They say, oh, you don't want elections, you want a dictatorship.
[00:29:51]  No, I want the opposite.
[00:29:52]  I want a small R republican style of government or a republic.
[00:29:57]  So in the United States, we have a constitutional republic where representatives are limited by a set of rules.
[00:30:03]  And lastly, the purpose of a constitutional republic is to set forth in the Declaration to guarantee each right of their citizens endowed by their creator.
[00:30:11]  And that final point is crucial.
[00:30:14]  It drives home that the government is the servant of the people rather than the master.
[00:30:19]  As Fisher Ames famously said, quote, a democracy is a volcano which conceals the fiery materials of its own destruction.
[00:30:30]  I just feel that's important to continue to say because they are constantly acting as if we're a democracy and it drives me wild.
[00:30:40]  And I'm not saying I love elections.
[00:30:42]  I love consent to the governed.
[00:30:44]  And by the way, in a constitutional republic, elections are critical.
[00:30:48]  Elections are necessary.
[00:30:49]  They're moral.
[00:30:50]  You must have consent to the governed.
[00:30:52]  What is not, though, is the fuming passions, emotional manipulation, rapid changes, and mob frenzy of a pure democracy.
[00:31:03]  Plato is right.
[00:31:04]  You have a pure democracy.
[00:31:06]  It's going to lead to a dictatorship.
[00:31:08]  Look, this last decade has just broken otherwise very smart people's brains.
[00:31:12]  It's just broken them in half.
[00:31:14]  It's the closest thing to mass formation psychosis that I've seen in quite some time.
[00:31:20]  There is another undercurrent here.
[00:31:22]  It's as if Obama was supposed to kind of build like a European heaven on earth.
[00:31:26]  It didn't happen, and they've been in permanent breakdown ever since.
[00:31:29]  And Hillary Clinton was supposed to kind of be the resurrection and the bridge.
[00:31:32]  And then Donald Trump came on the scene and they'll never get over that.
[00:31:37]  I have a feeling that Donald Trump coming on the scene is going to be something that in my next 40 or 50 years in politics, the left will never get over.
[00:31:50]  I could just conceivably see a 2042 or a 2052 presidential election and someone saying in a debate, but if it wasn't for Donald Trump in 2016, we would be fine.
[00:32:05]  It's become almost like ancestral folklore, basically.
[00:32:10]  They're so centered on it.
[00:32:12]  And he's saying that we're on the verge of authoritarianism.
[00:32:15]  Well, yeah, we're on the verge of despotic progressivism, authoritarianism.
[00:32:22]  I'll say it again: it is historian malpractice.
[00:32:28]  It is a malpractice to the entire profession to say stuff like this.
[00:32:34]  It really is.
[00:32:35]  It heightens tensions.
[00:32:37]  It drives people bananas when you start saying that they're going to kill our kids.
[00:32:42]  This is not an activist, by the way.
[00:32:44]  This is not some sort of BLM leader.
[00:32:45]  This is not some sort of fringe guy.
[00:32:48]  This is such an inflammatory thing to say.
[00:32:50]  He's a historian, allegedly.
[00:32:51]  This guy writes books and publishes them about U.S. history, and he's out there saying this stuff.
[00:32:57]  What's his name again?
[00:32:59]  Michael Beschloss says a GOP victory in midterms mean our children will be arrested and conceivably killed.
[00:33:06]  I mean, maybe he's on drugs.
[00:33:07]  I'm not kidding.
[00:33:08]  And I'm not saying that lightly.
[00:33:11]  You don't say stuff like that.
[00:33:12]  That's not scholarly.
[00:33:13]  It's not thoughtful.
[00:33:14]  It's not prudent.
[00:33:15]  Went to Williams University in Harvard, and he is a well-respected historian on the United States presidency.
[00:33:23]  Jeez.
[00:33:26]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:33:28]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:33:31]  Thank you so much for listening.
[00:33:32]  God bless.
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