The Charlie Kirk Show - Cartel Cash For Democrats? With Cassy Garcia and Tudor Dixon
Aired: 2022-11-02
Duration: 33:56


=== Cartel Money and Border Security (10:12) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, Tudor Dixon joins us and Cassie Garcia, two great candidates running for two different offices.
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[00:01:12]  There's a very interesting story unfolding in southern Texas in the Rio Grande Valley.
[00:01:20]  There are three Latina conservatives that are running for office.
[00:01:24]  And one of them joins us right now.
[00:01:26]  It's Cassie Garcia running for Congress in District 28.
[00:01:33]  And she has a very important story to share about how her opponent has accepted cartel money.
[00:01:38]  Cassie joins us right now.
[00:01:40]  Cassie, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:01:42]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:01:43]  This is Cassie.
[00:01:44]  I'm so honored to be with you on today as we're seven days away from election night.
[00:01:50]  Yes, we are.
[00:01:50]  And I think it's going to be a very, very good night.
[00:01:53]  So tell us about your opponent and this story that he's accepting cartel money.
[00:02:00]  Yeah.
[00:02:00]  So, you know, Henry Quare, as everyone knows, is a beloved Democrat, loved by Republicans, but then today he's a Democrat.
[00:02:06]  He's been in office for 18 years, but he's been serving in public service since 1987, since I've been in kindergarten.
[00:02:14]  And now he has accepted, he accepted years ago bribes of money from a wife of a cartel member.
[00:02:23]  You know, and people should find this deep.
[00:02:25]  I'm deeply disturbed by this, and I think the people of District 28 should be disturbed by this report, you know.
[00:02:32]  And first of all, a congressman should never accept campaign contributions for money from, especially from Los Vetas, one of the worst, deadliest drug cartels on our southwest border.
[00:02:43]  You know what?
[00:02:44]  It's also a troubling pattern because right now he's under a criminal investigation for corruption as well.
[00:02:48]  Yeah, so I'm reading the story here and it says Texas 28 is one of the most closely watched house races this cycle.
[00:02:57]  And so he received money from this cartel-linked group.
[00:03:02]  How do we know it's from a cartel-linked group?
[00:03:04]  Just kind of build that out a little bit of all the evidence against him.
[00:03:09]  Yeah, so this was billed out and it was actually brought up, but it kind of like fizzled out a little bit after they returned.
[00:03:15]  The San Antonio News Report actually brought this up and it was also followed up by Texas Tribune.
[00:03:20]  And they both, you know, Henry Quare donated the money to a charity.
[00:03:26]  We'd love to know which charity he donated that money to.
[00:03:29]  And his brother, who is a sheriff down in Webb County, Martine Quayar, returned the money back.
[00:03:35]  So we love to find out, you know, how this money was returned.
[00:03:39]  And first of all, how did they not know where this money was coming from?
[00:03:43]  And that's the problem that we're seeing in South Texas.
[00:03:45]  You know, we call corrupt politicians.
[00:03:48]  You know, they've been there too long, you know, and they're obviously become very wealthy.
[00:03:53]  And you should know this when you're in Congress.
[00:03:56]  You know, you should not, you know, start to get wealthy.
[00:03:58]  He's got luxury condos in DC.
[00:04:01]  And that's why I support term limits as well.
[00:04:03]  But I think it's time.
[00:04:05]  I think people are waking up.
[00:04:07]  People are disturbed by the news.
[00:04:08]  This just broke yesterday.
[00:04:10]  And so I think as people are going out to the ballot box, as we're continuing early voting this week, I think people are going to be paying attention to this.
[00:04:18]  It's going to help them make a decision whether to vote for someone who is corrupt or vote for a better way forward for this district.
[00:04:26]  Yeah, so talk a little bit about the damage the cartels have done to the southern border and in your district, the drugs, the crime.
[00:04:33]  I mean, the cartels are no joke, and he accepts money from the cartels.
[00:04:36]  Talk about that.
[00:04:38]  Look, you know, he obviously he's been in office for 18 years.
[00:04:42]  Look, I am a lifelong South Texan.
[00:04:44]  I'm also the wife of a border patrol agent.
[00:04:46]  And so when we talk about the cartels, they're making billions and billions of dollars.
[00:04:50]  People that are trying to cross our country, you know, they're paying them to come across here.
[00:04:54]  People are dying.
[00:04:55]  We talk about the fentanyl crisis that is seeping through our border here.
[00:04:59]  I met a mother who lost her daughter to fentanyl.
[00:05:02]  She was 17 years old and she died in July.
[00:05:04]  She thought she was taking a sleeping aid and never woke up the next morning.
[00:05:07]  And so when we talk about the cartels, they're moving in.
[00:05:10]  People are saying, no, they're not coming in.
[00:05:11]  No, they are in this country.
[00:05:13]  They are in this country.
[00:05:14]  They're moving around.
[00:05:15]  The people are paying them billions of dollars.
[00:05:18]  People are, I mean, they are, we need to shut them down.
[00:05:21]  We need to shut down the border.
[00:05:22]  We need to close the border.
[00:05:24]  We need the president of the United States to do his job and enforce the laws on the books.
[00:05:28]  And that's why people are raised.
[00:05:30]  In District 28, when I'm talking to voters, they're telling me, Kathy, we have an unsecure border.
[00:05:35]  The border is broken, price out of control, and we don't even have doctors.
[00:05:38]  Four of the nine counties do not even have doctors.
[00:05:41]  And with the influx of people that we're seeing in this district or even on the border, it's not fair to the communities that are having to deal with the impact of this crisis.
[00:05:52]  The administration won't talk about it.
[00:05:54]  We have a border duck Kamala who will not visit the southern border.
[00:05:58]  We have a secretary of Mallorca who has belittled our men and women in green.
[00:06:03]  And I think we have a congressman who is corrupt.
[00:06:06]  And it's time for him to step down, to move along, and allow someone who is going to properly represent this district.
[00:06:14]  And that's why we talk about that shift.
[00:06:16]  This district, 28 is a toss of race now.
[00:06:18]  People are looking at between my race, Monica De La Cruz, and Myra Flores in 34, that we could actually make history and flip three seats in the Rio Grande Valley that have been Democrat-controlled for over 150 years.
[00:06:30]  And in this District 28, they've never had a Republican, conservative ever serve this great district.
[00:06:35]  So I can't wait.
[00:06:37]  And I'm meeting, Charlie, I'm meeting people on the ground every single day.
[00:06:39]  Tell me, Kathy, I've been a Democrat my whole entire life, and I voted Republican-free.
[00:06:44]  In fact, I was meeting with the mayor at a restaurant here at Meeting Greet right now in Atta Scott County.
[00:06:48]  I had a voter come up to me and say, Kathy, I've always voted for Henry Clare.
[00:06:51]  I just voted for you.
[00:06:53]  Wow.
[00:06:54]  Those sort of stories start to pile up.
[00:06:56]  So then what do you attribute to the general trend that Hispanics are leaving the Democrat Party?
[00:07:01]  What is your explanation for that?
[00:07:04]  Look, at the end of the day, when we talk about the shift, the Hispanic shift, the Hispanic shift of voters, Hispanics are smart.
[00:07:11]  They're common sense voters who believe in the American dream.
[00:07:14]  They're about faith, family, freedom, hard work.
[00:07:18]  The Democrat Party has left the Hispanic community.
[00:07:21]  They've gone so far left.
[00:07:23]  You look at AOC, open borders, defund the police.
[00:07:26]  I'm sorry, but when you talk to Hispanics, even if you're a Democrat, you're a conservative Democrat, you support a strong and secure border.
[00:07:35]  We support legal immigration, not illegal immigration.
[00:07:38]  So when I'm talking to voters, they're telling me, Kathy, I don't even recognize my party anymore.
[00:07:44]  I don't recognize it anymore.
[00:07:45]  So that's, you know, that's, I can't wait.
[00:07:48]  I'm meeting voters every single day that are Democrats.
[00:07:52]  And when I talk about securing the border, Charlie, I don't care if you're a Republican or you're a Democrat, wanting to secure the border shouldn't be a reddish or a blue.
[00:08:00]  It's a red, white, and blue issue.
[00:08:02]  And people are fed up.
[00:08:03]  You're talking about the economy, inflation, an unsecure border.
[00:08:07]  I mean, 2.4 million crossings.
[00:08:10]  When does it stop?
[00:08:11]  Like, when does it stop?
[00:08:12]  And when you talk to voters, they say it's the administration.
[00:08:16]  They want them to vote.
[00:08:17]  They want them to vote.
[00:08:18]  They want them here.
[00:08:19]  There's a reason why they keep the border open.
[00:08:21]  So people are paying attention.
[00:08:23]  So we're not talking about, even though abortions, you know, it's an important issue to talk about, but people are talking about putting gas in their car.
[00:08:31]  Yeah, I have talked to a mom who said, Kathy, I had to take out a loan to buy school supplies for my kids.
[00:08:36]  And so, I mean, people are making, mothers and dads are making difficult decisions.
[00:08:40]  I had a mom tell me, I don't even know I'm going to be able to buy Christmas gifts for my kids this Christmas because we don't have money.
[00:08:47]  So people are, Charlie, people are hurting every single day and they're ready for a change.
[00:08:51]  They are truly, and I was down with Governor Abbott yesterday in Laredo and people are fired up.
[00:08:56]  They're fired up and they're ready.
[00:08:58]  They're hungry.
[00:08:59]  And that's why I can't wait to see come up next Tuesday this election to see if we can flip the seat red and make history.
[00:09:08]  And I'll be the first Hispanic Latina to ever represent this great district.
[00:09:12]  And more importantly, be the true voice for the people of District 28 and truly represent them and their values.
[00:09:20]  That's so well said.
[00:09:21]  How could people support your race before a week from today?
[00:09:26]  Yeah, so I, you know, we are seven days, you know, away.
[00:09:29]  And so if anybody, we're asking for prayer, but we're also asking for a donation.
[00:09:33]  So if anybody, a dollar, two dollars will go a long way to keep my commercials up in the air.
[00:09:37]  So asking people to go to KathyForCongress.com, KathyForCongress.com.
[00:09:42]  I, you know, I've served this great district for 17 years, fighting for conservative principles and fighting a secure border.
[00:09:49]  And I'm so honored to have the endorsement from the National Border Patrol Council, who's always endorsed Henry Cuare.
[00:09:54]  And they've switched their endorsement.
[00:09:56]  They've endorsed me in this race because they believe in me.
[00:09:59]  They're tired of Henry Quare, who votes 95% of the time with Nancy Pelosi and who also voted against life-saving infrastructure and also voted for a bill for 87,000 IRS agents.

=== Overwhelming the Election System (05:17) ===

[00:10:12]  My friend, we don't need 87,000 IRS agents.
[00:10:15]  We need 87,000 Border Patrol customs officers and security school officers to keep our community safe.
[00:10:22]  That's exactly right.
[00:10:24]  Best of luck, Cassie.
[00:10:25]  Thank you for joining us.
[00:10:26]  I think you're going to shock the world a week from tonight.
[00:10:28]  Thank you so much.
[00:10:29]  Oh, Charlie, thank you so much.
[00:10:31]  Honored.
[00:10:31]  God bless you, my friend.
[00:10:32]  Thank you.
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[00:12:01]  Midterms are one week away, one week away.
[00:12:04]  What are you going to do in the next week to help save the Republic?
[00:12:09]  Say, Charlie, I'm watching from afar.
[00:12:11]  That's not good enough.
[00:12:13]  How many doors are you knocking on?
[00:12:14]  How many people are you mobilizing?
[00:12:17]  How many people you're talking to?
[00:12:19]  Let's go to cut 20.
[00:12:21]  Major red flags for Democrats.
[00:12:23]  Play cut 20.
[00:12:25]  Digging deeper here, we've got some all-time midterm highs that should serve as red flags for the Democrats.
[00:12:31]  The wrong track, 71%, all-time midterm high since we've been polling.
[00:12:36]  How about presidential approval disapproval on the economy sitting at 57%?
[00:12:41]  Again, we hadn't recorded that ever that high in our poll.
[00:12:45]  And the third one, the direction of the economy.
[00:12:47]  In the next year, is it going to get better or worse?
[00:12:49]  50% say it's going to get worse again.
[00:12:51]  An all-time high in midterm polling.
[00:12:55]  So you look at the general trend.
[00:12:56]  Republicans are widening the lead rather significantly.
[00:13:01]  So let's just go through some of the latest kind of markers, if you will, that I think are interesting tests of really what's happening here.
[00:13:09]  But I can't say this enough.
[00:13:10]  If for whatever reason you guys think we're going to win and, oh, everything's just fine, you are wrong.
[00:13:16]  We have to overwhelm the system on election day.
[00:13:20]  Overwhelm the system.
[00:13:22]  Tudor Dixon, who joins us in a second, in a statistical tie with Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:13:27]  Lee Zeldon, statistical tie.
[00:13:29]  Brian Kemp, up on Stacey Abrams.
[00:13:32]  Sisilak is down in Nevada.
[00:13:36]  The New York Times claims that Katie Hobbs and Kerry Lake are tied.
[00:13:42]  I don't know about that.
[00:13:43]  These New York Times polls are such a joke.
[00:13:46]  I have not seen grassroots enthusiasm for any candidate like I've seen for Kerry Lake ever.
[00:13:51]  It's extraordinary.
[00:13:53]  Tape here, play cut 36.
[00:13:55]  Poll after poll shows show that voters trust, they say they trust Republicans more than Democrats when it comes to the economy.
[00:14:03]  What's the administration's response to that persistent view?
[00:14:07]  When the president walked into this administration, the economy was in ruins.
[00:14:12]  It was an absolute ruins.
[00:14:14]  Yeah, the economy was not in ruins.
[00:14:16]  You guys made it in ruins.
[00:14:18]  You guys passed trillions of dollars of spending unnecessarily and brought us to the brink of economic collapse and catastrophe.
[00:14:26]  Joe Rogan thinks a red wave is coming.
[00:14:28]  Joe Rogan, who is a free thinker, Joe Rogan, who is a believer in truth and in liberty and the Constitution, here's what he thinks is going to happen.
[00:14:40]  Play cut 41.
[00:14:41]  The red wave that's coming is going to be like the elevator doors opening up in the shining.
[00:14:46]  I think people are just like, what the f are you saying?
[00:14:49]  They're making Republicans.
[00:14:51]  There you go.
[00:14:52]  Cut 40 CBS poll finds Republicans have a 20-point advantage among 79% of voters.
[00:15:00]  Not only do I think these polls are wrong, there's a chance these polls are off by 10 or 15 points.
[00:15:05]  Play cut 40.
[00:15:07]  Our CBS News Battleground Tracker poll out this morning shows that a stunning 79%, that's nearly 8 in 10 likely voters, say that the country is out of control.
[00:15:19]  That's an ominous sign for the Democrats who hold power in Washington.
[00:15:23]  Of those 79% expected to vote next Tuesday, Republicans have a more than 20-point advantage.

=== Michigan Polls and Education Freedom (14:08) ===

[00:15:30]  Not to mention the base turnout, and that's where all of you come in.
[00:15:34]  You have to vote.
[00:15:36]  You have to get your friends to vote, your family members to vote.
[00:15:38]  As we have said before in this program, you get your 30 people in your life to vote.
[00:15:43]  Just go through the list.
[00:15:44]  Who are your 30?
[00:15:45]  Go through.
[00:15:46]  One, three, seven, eight, nine, 10.
[00:15:48]  Every single person.
[00:15:49]  We have to have a massive, overwhelming Election Day turnout.
[00:15:56]  Early voting is closing.
[00:15:57]  That window is closing.
[00:15:59]  We have got to show up in numbers unlike anything we have ever seen before.
[00:16:04]  And guess what?
[00:16:04]  I think we can do that.
[00:16:06]  You guys can go to tpaction.com to go knock on doors this weekend all across the country.
[00:16:10]  We have an event coming up with Governor Ron DeSantis and Ana Paulina.
[00:16:14]  I will be there as well in Florida, tpaction.com slash DeSantis.
[00:16:18]  DeSantis is going to win by double digits in the state of Florida.
[00:16:22]  So it's important.
[00:16:23]  It's critically important.
[00:16:25]  And if we put that together, I think we're going to shock the world in places we could never have imagined all across the country.
[00:16:30]  But it's also the city council races.
[00:16:32]  It's the school board races.
[00:16:34]  It's up and down the ballot in every single way we can, but it has to be full court press press shoulder to the wheel.
[00:16:41]  We cannot give up or let up right now.
[00:16:43]  It's the most critical juncture this last week.
[00:16:46]  We have the Democrats on the run.
[00:16:48]  They peaked way too early.
[00:16:50]  We are still gaining voters day by day by day.
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[00:17:59]  We keep a close eye on the Michigan governor's race.
[00:18:03]  I'm telling you, I think that the world is going to be blown away here.
[00:18:07]  Joining us now is Tudor Dixon, who is running for governor in Michigan in a statistical tie with Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:18:13]  Tudor, welcome back to the program.
[00:18:15]  How do you feel about things?
[00:18:17]  I feel really good right now.
[00:18:19]  We just got a poll saying that we're tied.
[00:18:21]  We know that there are a lot of quiet Republicans in Michigan.
[00:18:24]  Michigan is a very difficult state to poll.
[00:18:26]  We are having hundreds, sometimes thousands of people come to our events.
[00:18:30]  We just saw an article yesterday saying Gretchen Whitmer had dozens of people at her event.
[00:18:35]  We feel that the momentum is with us.
[00:18:38]  It's been great.
[00:18:39]  We have the two debates.
[00:18:41]  She came out in the debate and said that school had only been closed down for three months.
[00:18:45]  People were shocked that she said that.
[00:18:47]  They now see what the truth is about this government, what's going on.
[00:18:51]  They want to make sure that we can bring the state back.
[00:18:53]  They've seen the reading scores.
[00:18:54]  They want to make sure our kids can read.
[00:18:56]  They want to make sure you can have the American dream in this state.
[00:18:59]  They want to make sure that we support police and that we reduce crime.
[00:19:02]  We feel strong going into this week.
[00:19:05]  Yeah, so talk about the fundamentals.
[00:19:07]  What are you guys going to really be focusing on?
[00:19:08]  And what is Whitmer's message right now?
[00:19:10]  It seems she's kind of without one.
[00:19:12]  She is without one.
[00:19:13]  And that's why I think it was so difficult for her to come back in the debates because she had a message in 2018.
[00:19:19]  She didn't come through with any of that.
[00:19:21]  She's not making any promises going forward on how she's going to repair the state.
[00:19:25]  She obviously does not have an economic development plan.
[00:19:28]  We are talking about making sure that we get tutors into our schools, get our kids back on track.
[00:19:33]  We had kids out of school almost longer than any other state.
[00:19:35]  Our reading scores just came back from the spring.
[00:19:38]  Nearly 60% of our third graders failed their reading and writing exams.
[00:19:42]  First and foremost, let's get into these schools and make sure we get the kids back on track.
[00:19:46]  But we're also in the bottom 10 in the nation for education.
[00:19:50]  So we've got to get that back on track as well.
[00:19:52]  We're talking about education freedom.
[00:19:54]  We're also talking about making sure that our kids are not only getting an education, but they're living in safe communities.
[00:20:00]  And so that's why we want to put a billion new dollars into the police.
[00:20:03]  We've been very clear about our plan.
[00:20:05]  As I've gone around the state, we have the endorsement of the largest police union in the state.
[00:20:10]  Also, more than two dozen sheriffs, some of those Democrats that have said, we feel that we were betrayed.
[00:20:16]  We really, we are not asking for anything other than support and then let us do our jobs.
[00:20:22]  That's really important to me that we support our police, we bring back safe communities.
[00:20:26]  And once we get education on track, we bring back safe communities.
[00:20:31]  I know businesses will want to be coming to the state of Michigan.
[00:20:34]  We have to reduce regulation though.
[00:20:35]  It's very challenging right now.
[00:20:37]  If you're a local folk, local person that wants to start their own business, an entrepreneur, it's very challenging to get through the red tape.
[00:20:45]  If you are a large business coming to the state, it's very challenging to get through that red tape.
[00:20:49]  So we want to reduce regulations in the state of Michigan by 40% in the first four years.
[00:20:54]  And then I know that we will see an economic boom in the state.
[00:20:58]  Yeah, I think that's well said.
[00:20:59]  Let's play some tape here of Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:21:03]  Let's go to Cut 34.
[00:21:06]  You know, I've had a good relationship with the vice president.
[00:21:10]  He came and helped me a bit when I was running for governor.
[00:21:13]  He were cut from a similar cloth.
[00:21:16]  She's talking about Joe Biden saying that they're cut from the same cloth.
[00:21:20]  And then this one, Cut 28, Whitmer says schools stay closed for three months.
[00:21:24]  A total lie.
[00:21:25]  Play cut 28.
[00:21:26]  You know, Mrs. Dixon says that I kept students out longer than any other state.
[00:21:31]  That's just not true.
[00:21:32]  I worked closely with my Republican and Democratic governors, and kids were out for three months.
[00:21:37]  Three months, is that right?
[00:21:39]  Oh my.
[00:21:40]  And even the way she says it, just smiling out of the side of her mouth, kids were out for three months.
[00:21:46]  Parents were outraged.
[00:21:48]  And it wasn't even parents.
[00:21:49]  When they came back to me, I said, I think I just heard an audible gasp around town.
[00:21:53]  I've had parents come up to me and say, you did hear an audible gasp because in our house, it was the kids who were saying, she's got to be kidding.
[00:22:01]  And they've suffered not only learning loss, but the mental health issues that they've suffered from losing.
[00:22:07]  They had so much of their life lost.
[00:22:09]  We had kids that lost out on sports, kids that lost out on prom, graduations, all of these milestone moments for our kids, even just the loss of being around friends.
[00:22:19]  I think a lot of people in other states don't realize how significant it was because we weren't allowed to have our kids leave our house.
[00:22:26]  We were told they couldn't play outside.
[00:22:28]  People were calling the police if their children were outside.
[00:22:31]  They couldn't go shopping with you.
[00:22:33]  They could never leave the house.
[00:22:34]  And so it was months before I looked down at my daughter one night, putting her to bed at the time my oldest was 10.
[00:22:41]  She started to cry and I said, What's wrong?
[00:22:43]  And she said, Mom, I think this is what depression feels like.
[00:22:47]  I think most parents remember that, and they were very outraged to hear her belittle the amount of time that our kids were out of school and just kind of act like this was no big deal because we're still suffering from the repercussions of not only learning loss, but the loss of friends and the loss of activities.
[00:23:06]  It's been devastating to the state.
[00:23:08]  And she just acts like it's in such a flippant way that, oh, no, we were only out for three months.
[00:23:13]  Well, what a joke.
[00:23:14]  That sounds like Gretchen Whitmer and taking zero responsibility whatsoever while her husband went to the lake house saying, Don't you know who I am?
[00:23:21]  I'm such an important person.
[00:23:23]  Let's go to this tape here where Gretchen Whitmer said she wants to abolish ICE.
[00:23:30]  Let's play cut 31.
[00:23:31]  Do you think we should abolish ICE, though?
[00:23:34]  I think that ICE is doing a fundamentally cruel and unconstitutional undemocratic.
[00:23:42]  So you think we should abolish it?
[00:23:43]  Yeah.
[00:23:44]  Tudor, abolish ice with the fentanyl crisis in America.
[00:23:47]  And a serious crisis in the state of Michigan.
[00:23:51]  We have had more overdoses in 2021 than ever before.
[00:23:56]  We're facing the crisis in a way I think many states aren't.
[00:24:00]  We went to our crime, one of our crime labs on the east side of the state a few weeks ago, and the woman who was doing the testing brought out these two big blocks of cocaine.
[00:24:08]  And she said, this is what I'm testing.
[00:24:10]  But later today, she brought out a block that was at least a foot wide and almost a foot long.
[00:24:16]  And she said, this is fentanyl.
[00:24:18]  And I'll be testing this later today.
[00:24:20]  I was totally shocked to see this amount of fentanyl just in her hands.
[00:24:24]  And I said, how many people could that kill?
[00:24:27]  She said, this could kill millions.
[00:24:29]  So where did you find this?
[00:24:30]  She said, just down the street in Pontiac, in Michigan.
[00:24:33]  We found it in the house.
[00:24:34]  That didn't come out of Michigan.
[00:24:36]  That came across our border.
[00:24:38]  Gretchen Whitmer will not acknowledge that we have an open border.
[00:24:41]  And here she is saying that she doesn't support ICE.
[00:24:44]  We know she supported sanctuary cities in the past.
[00:24:47]  This is, you know what?
[00:24:48]  The fact of the matter is, fentanyl, it doesn't discriminate against anybody.
[00:24:52]  It will take anyone's life.
[00:24:54]  We have seen this drug crisis affect people, no matter what kind of life they live, no matter what zip code they're in.
[00:25:01]  People are losing loved ones to the opioid crisis, and Gretchen Whitmer doesn't have an answer to it.
[00:25:06]  In fact, she doesn't even want to talk about it.
[00:25:08]  When she was asked about the opioid crisis in our debate, she started off on this tangent about health care that had nothing to do with the opioid crisis, but she would gladly protect these folks who are bringing it across the border.
[00:25:20]  Yeah, that is, that's that's really well said.
[00:25:22]  So there's a new article out that's talking about pandemic amnesty.
[00:25:26]  I don't know if you saw this or not, but they say that we have to have, let's declare pandemic amnesty.
[00:25:31]  We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID, we were in the dark and children suffered.
[00:25:37]  And Michigan suffered almost more than any other state because of Gretchen Whitmer, because of Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:25:43]  So should we just turn the page and forget about this, Tudor, and not learn our lessons?
[00:25:47]  Or is it time to hold people accountable?
[00:25:49]  Oh, absolutely not turn the page.
[00:25:51]  And one of the things that I think is key here is that one of the people that retweeted that is the union boss, the teachers' union boss who was saying schools have to be shut down, who was also in Detroit, Michigan last weekend with Barack Obama saying that there is no one who will take care of you like Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:26:10]  I think she meant no one who will take care of the teachers union like Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:26:15]  That to me is so key that the teachers union is saying, let's forget about the pandemic.
[00:26:20]  Don't think about what we did to your kids, but give money to these politicians who kept the schools locked down, who kept the kids from learning.
[00:26:28]  This is outrageous.
[00:26:30]  Just what we see in the state of Michigan, these politicians and political talking heads like the teachers union coming into the state and telling people, we know what's best for you.
[00:26:40]  At that same rally, our lieutenant governor stood there in Detroit and said, this is where we get political power and we want political power to come from the city of Detroit.
[00:26:50]  Imagine someone who is supposed to be a servant, who's supposed to lead your state, demanding political power after the four years that we have suffered through.
[00:27:00]  And Tudor, I think it's important for you to tell our audience your own personal biography.
[00:27:04]  You're a mother of four girls.
[00:27:06]  Is that right?
[00:27:07]  Talk, talk about that to introduce yourself more to our national audience.
[00:27:11]  Yes.
[00:27:12]  So I'm a mom of four school-aged girls.
[00:27:14]  I went through the pandemic with all the other parents who had kids in elementary and middle school going through this.
[00:27:20]  It was pretty devastating to see them locked out.
[00:27:23]  But I think what a lot of people don't understand about my background is that I truly come from the world of manufacturing.
[00:27:29]  My family owned a steel foundry in the state of Michigan.
[00:27:32]  So I spent most of my career on the shop floor, heavy equipment.
[00:27:35]  We were making mining and rail and military equipment.
[00:27:39]  I moved from the foundry steel casting industry to steel forging industry, where it was all automotive.
[00:27:46]  So I've seen those businesses.
[00:27:48]  I've seen how over-regulation can crush a business.
[00:27:51]  I've seen how the state of Michigan goes after our manufacturers.
[00:27:54]  And this is our bread and butter.
[00:27:55]  These small businesses, manufacturing and agriculture are our two largest industries.
[00:28:00]  And we have a state government right now.
[00:28:03]  Gretchen Whitmer does not understand the importance of preserving American manufacturing.
[00:28:07]  She has not lived through what I've lived through, watching our manufacturing go to China, watching these big companies choose China over the Americans because they could make it cheaper.
[00:28:17]  And then ultimately, seeing Buy America clauses go from Buy America to 80% Buy America clause.
[00:28:24]  And we're not getting our military equipment finished until 20% of it comes from overseas and some of that is from China.
[00:28:30]  People don't understand the dangers that we are in right now if we do not go back to American manufacturing and preserve American jobs.
[00:28:38]  Yeah, that's well said.
[00:28:39]  Talk about your website, how people can support you in this final push.
[00:28:43]  We're one week out.
[00:28:44]  Yes, please check us out at tutordixon.com.
[00:28:47]  We are up against a machine in Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:28:49]  They are bringing in as much money as they possibly can.
[00:28:52]  They've already spent, I think that they're on track to spend 50 million in the next, by the end of this week, in the whole thing.
[00:28:59]  24 million?
[00:28:59]  50 million.
[00:29:00]  Jeez, that's crazy.
[00:29:02]  Wow.
[00:29:02]  Yeah.
[00:29:02]  So all the help we can get.
[00:29:04]  That's extraordinary.
[00:29:05]  What's the website again?
[00:29:07]  It's tutordixon.com.
[00:29:09]  And I promise you, next Wednesday, everybody will be saying, wow, she did this with so little because everybody wants a change in Michigan.
[00:29:18]  Every poll shows that you're tightening the race.
[00:29:20]  It's remarkable.
[00:29:21]  Just the latest poll right there shows a tie insider advantage in America greatness.
[00:29:26]  That's right there, 4545.
[00:29:28]  You could do it.
[00:29:28]  Tudor, we're behind you.
[00:29:29]  Thank you so much.
[00:29:31]  Thank you.
[00:29:34]  Boy, I could do a whole hour on this piece.
[00:29:36]  So I almost should save this for a different time.

=== Forgiving COVID Uncertainty (04:17) ===

[00:29:39]  But it's let's declare a pandemic amnesty.
[00:29:42]  It's an interesting thing to argue by Emily Auster.
[00:29:46]  She says we need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.
[00:29:51]  When were we in the dark about COVID?
[00:29:53]  For two weeks?
[00:29:56]  Every single thing we predicted when it came to being in the dark about COVID, when you guys are in the dark, it was true.
[00:30:02]  The original cruise ship told us everything we need to know about transmission, death rates.
[00:30:07]  In April of 2020, 2020, with nothing else to do, my family took an enormous number of hikes.
[00:30:13]  We all wore cloth masks that I made myself.
[00:30:16]  We had a family hand signal, which the person in front would use as someone approaching on the trail, and we needed to put on our masks.
[00:30:22]  Once, when another child got too close to my four-year-old son on a bridge, he yelled at her social distancing.
[00:30:27]  You're a sick person, Emily.
[00:30:28]  You understand that?
[00:30:30]  That's really deranged to teach your four-year-old to yell at other people social distancing.
[00:30:35]  These precautions were totally misguided.
[00:30:37]  Yeah, we try to tell you that.
[00:30:39]  And you guys called us conspiracy theorists, nut jobs, wackos, kicked us off social media, suppressed our accounts, and used the DHS probably to do it.
[00:30:47]  It was all misguided.
[00:30:48]  And you called me anti-science.
[00:30:50]  You smeared me.
[00:30:50]  You smeared all of us.
[00:30:52]  In April 22, no one got the coronavirus from passing someone else hiking.
[00:30:57]  Outdoor transmission was vanishingly rare.
[00:30:59]  Oh, but what did the CDC say?
[00:31:01]  Our cloth masters made out of old bandanas wouldn't have done anything anyway.
[00:31:04]  The thing is, we didn't know.
[00:31:05]  Yes, you did.
[00:31:06]  You were just too hypnotized to believe the narrative.
[00:31:10]  We knew.
[00:31:11]  We said it on this program.
[00:31:12]  We did show after show after show.
[00:31:13]  We tried to warn you.
[00:31:14]  Dr. McCullough, Dr. Malone, Dr. Weinstein.
[00:31:19]  She keeps on writing.
[00:31:20]  I've been reflecting on this lack of knowledge thanks to a class I'm co-teaching at Brown University on COVID.
[00:31:24]  You're teaching a class.
[00:31:26]  You should be disbarred from teaching anybody.
[00:31:29]  We spent several lectures reliving the first year of the pandemic, discussing the many important choices we had to make under conditions of tremendous uncertainty.
[00:31:37]  There was no uncertainty.
[00:31:39]  There's uncertainty if you're an idiot, which you were.
[00:31:41]  I'm sorry.
[00:31:43]  The whole time we were on the data because we were not living in the regime.
[00:31:47]  We were not living under this hypnosis.
[00:31:50]  For two weeks, you're like, what is this?
[00:31:51]  And then we started to do our research, saw how the virus spread in Italy, saw how it spread in cruise ships, saw how it spread anecdotally, and we went all in on it.
[00:31:58]  And guess what?
[00:31:59]  We were right.
[00:32:00]  And you guys censored us.
[00:32:01]  You took on our YouTube channel.
[00:32:02]  You took on our Twitter.
[00:32:03]  We had a front page essay on the New York Times all about how we were spreading virus misinformation.
[00:32:09]  We didn't know.
[00:32:10]  Yes, we did.
[00:32:11]  You were just bought and purchased by the pharmaceutical companies.
[00:32:15]  Where's our apology to us?
[00:32:18]  Why don't you apologize to us for being dumb and for being evil and complicit and corrupt?
[00:32:24]  Some of those choices turned out better than others.
[00:32:26]  To take an example, my own work, there's emerging, if not universal, consensus that schools in the U.S. were closer too long.
[00:32:32]  Oh, really?
[00:32:34]  Man, it's so frustrating to read this.
[00:32:38]  Another example: when the vaccines came out, we lacked definitive data on the relative efficacy of Johnson and Johnson shot versus the mRNA options from Pfizer and Moderna.
[00:32:46]  The mRNA vaccines have won out, but at the time, many people in public health were either neutral or expressed a JJ preference.
[00:32:52]  The misstep wasn't nefarious.
[00:32:53]  It was the result of uncertainty.
[00:32:55]  Oh, really?
[00:32:58]  This is a very difficult article to read.
[00:33:00]  I'm going to have to finish it another time.
[00:33:02]  But basically, she's saying, we didn't know enough, so we should just give everyone a pass for all their crimes.
[00:33:08]  She says, let's acknowledge that we made complicated choices in the face of deep uncertainty and then try to work together to build back and move forward.
[00:33:14]  No, you seem like someone who's very worried that has blood on your hands.
[00:33:18]  You sound like someone that wants to avoid a Nuremberg trial for the crimes against humanity that you were involved in.
[00:33:24]  People died alone.
[00:33:25]  People died unnecessarily.
[00:33:27]  We looked at empirical evidence.
[00:33:28]  We were right about ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
[00:33:31]  We were right about vitamin D and baby aspirin.
[00:33:33]  You are the anti-science people, Emily Oster, economist at Brown University.
[00:33:38]  Boy, we're going to talk more about this at another time.
[00:33:42]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:33:44]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:33:47]  Thank you so much for listening.
[00:33:48]  God bless.
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