The Charlie Kirk Show - Whitmer's Michigan Meltdown? with Tudor Dixon and David Sokol
Aired: 2022-10-19
Duration: 34:11


=== America in Perspective (03:01) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Tudor Dixon, who is running for governor of Michigan, joins us.
[00:00:04]  And also, David Sokol, author of a very important book.
[00:00:07]  We talk about are Muslims helping the MAGA movement?
[00:00:12]  Very interesting question.
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[00:01:18]  Joining us now is David Sokol, one of the most respected economic and financial minds out there.
[00:01:24]  Has a really important book, America in Perspective, Defending the American Dream for the Next Generation.
[00:01:29]  David joins us again.
[00:01:30]  Welcome back, David, to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:01:32]  I'm glad to be here.
[00:01:33]  Thanks for having me, Charlie.
[00:01:35]  So, David, kind of for our new listeners and audience, kind of bring them up to speed about your book and why you wrote it.
[00:01:40]  And I think it's more relevant than ever.
[00:01:43]  Well, fundamentally, Charlie, I had the benefit of being the grandson of immigrants from Poland.
[00:01:49]  And my father, who was lower income, praised America, focused on the American dream, and made it really part of growing up for me.
[00:01:59]  And so I benefited from not having limitations placed on me artificially.
[00:02:04]  And I think every other American should.
[00:02:06]  So Adam and I decided there's just been too much polarization and a lack of understanding of the importance of the foundation of this great nation and that we need to get our citizens back to paying attention or else we're going to lose it.
[00:02:18]  And so that's really the book was intended to be nonpartisan, really just trying to get Americans back to understand that the Constitution that was framed by our founding fathers created this phenomenal, not only meritocracy, but freedom-based, consensus-based, self-healing nation.
[00:02:36]  And that the checks and balances placed in that Constitution are essential to us keeping the greatness of America.
[00:02:42]  And, you know, it's important to always remember is America is, in fact, great and extraordinary, but it's also self-healing.
[00:02:50]  And it's not perfect.
[00:02:51]  It just happens to be the best system ever developed.
[00:02:54]  And I'm afraid it's slipping out of our grasp.
[00:02:57]  The book is America in Perspective, very important book by David Sokol and Adam Brandon.

=== Economic Anxiety Explained (05:54) ===

[00:03:02]  So I want to talk about the economy because a lot of people are having economic anxiety right now and it's only growing.
[00:03:07]  There's a tremendous amount of confusion.
[00:03:09]  You and I both agree this ridiculous spending spree DC went on the last two years with the lockdowns and the trillions of dollars of unnecessary spending has just played into a lot of economic misery for a tremendous amount of people, young people in particular.
[00:03:23]  You know, the kind of experts have been wrong about everything.
[00:03:27]  I sat down with a bunch of Wall Street guys back in January of 2021 and I was laughed at by them when I said we're about to have hyperinflation that's going to crush the back of working people.
[00:03:36]  And these people manage billions of dollars and they said, oh, we don't have structural inflation.
[00:03:40]  It's never going to happen.
[00:03:41]  And well, look what happened, look what's happening now.
[00:03:43]  How did Wall Street get this so wrong?
[00:03:47]  Well, how did everybody on the government side in Wall Street get it wrong?
[00:03:51]  Well, optimism plays a part for Wall Street.
[00:03:54]  People tend to, you know, the market's been doing so well, the economy doing so well since 2016 that, you know, people want it to continue.
[00:04:03]  So I think the bias in Wall Street tends to always be on the positive.
[00:04:07]  The real scary part is how our government has gotten this so wrong.
[00:04:11]  You know, you can argue about whether or not we should have spent as much stimulus initially with COVID, but clearly, if the government's going to largely shut down industry, it's going to have to try and keep people afloat for a period.
[00:04:25]  But we spent too much, and that's clear.
[00:04:27]  And then after President Biden came in, he doubled down, which was totally unnecessary.
[00:04:34]  But again, it was vote buying.
[00:04:36]  It was trying to establish their base, I guess.
[00:04:40]  But that additional $2 trillion initially, which then added another $2 trillion for the infrastructure bill, and then another three-quarters of a trillion three months ago for a bill that's totally phonally named.
[00:04:53]  And, you know, think of the economy today and inflation as a bit of a bonfire.
[00:05:00]  The Federal Reserve got behind in getting started raising rates, but they've caught up and they need to continue.
[00:05:05]  So they're squirting water on this bonfire, trying to just slow the economy down.
[00:05:10]  Simultaneously, this administration continues to spray gasoline on the fire.
[00:05:15]  And worse than that, they continue to try to supply or limit the supply of natural gas and oil, both internally and to the world from the United States.
[00:05:27]  That piece of the inflation, if you will, fuel, isn't going away by interest rates.
[00:05:36]  As long as the government keeps artificially reducing our supply of refined products and natural gas in this country, that portion of inflation is going to continue notwithstanding interest rates.
[00:05:47]  And what people need to realize is everything you buy has energy baked into it, whether it's agricultural products, manufactured products, fertilizer, you name it, not only the gasoline and the heating oil and the natural gas in your home heating.
[00:06:02]  So inflation's here.
[00:06:04]  We're in a recession.
[00:06:05]  And I just pray that we stop this insane spending and then we can limit it from going into a very deep recession later next year.
[00:06:15]  I think that's a smart point you make about how Wall Street is kind of inclined to always look towards the positive.
[00:06:20]  Obviously, their motive is towards the positive.
[00:06:23]  I just, I get very frustrated when there's kind of an arrogant attitude towards that because you could want what's right, but you also have to be realistic about it.
[00:06:32]  I want to play a piece of tape here, Cut 11.
[00:06:34]  Under Biden, the average 401k is down about $34,000 or 25% in less than one year.
[00:06:41]  Play Cut 11.
[00:06:42]  Since President Biden took office, monthly savings have collapsed, falling 83%.
[00:06:47]  The average 401k plan had over $135,000 at the start of this year.
[00:06:53]  Today, those assets have shrunk on average to about $101,000.
[00:06:59]  In other words, the average 401k plan is down about $34,000, more than 25% in less than one year.
[00:07:11]  So, David, can you refresh our listeners that might be younger?
[00:07:16]  That's 08-level collapse, is it not, in stock market value?
[00:07:20]  I mean, 25%.
[00:07:22]  Maybe the market collapsed 30 to 40%.
[00:07:24]  I mean, you would know it better than I would, but that's extraordinary.
[00:07:28]  Well, in 08, it was a short-term effect.
[00:07:31]  We had, frankly, another catastrophe caused by government, which was to get banks to loan money to get the credit back.
[00:07:40]  And that bubble burst.
[00:07:41]  But the market was actually down almost 50% for a very short period of time.
[00:07:45]  But within 12 months, it was back to where it started because it was a singular event.
[00:07:51]  What's happening today is not a singular event.
[00:07:53]  We have expanded the money supply in this country to such a level that it is just fuel for inflation.
[00:07:59]  And again, we can argue about whether as much COVID spending should have been done as it was, but people need to remember what was spent back in 2020 and 2021 didn't build anything.
[00:08:12]  It didn't build a bridge or a prison or an airport.
[00:08:15]  It just was money given to people to not work.
[00:08:19]  And to some people who were working anyway, and so it was just kind of a bonus.
[00:08:24]  Well, that money sparked spending.
[00:08:27]  And there was an incredible amount of spending that occurred.
[00:08:29]  And we're now paying the price for that spiraling inflation.
[00:08:33]  And, you know, and it's going to continue for a period of time because once you get wages to start moving up in addition to fuel energy prices and then that massive spending wave, you know, that spiral continues.
[00:08:47]  Companies have to raise prices to cover those costs.
[00:08:50]  Labor increases are typically permanent.
[00:08:53]  They don't go backwards once a recession hits.

=== Small Business Heartbeat (02:37) ===

[00:08:56]  And so it's going to take quite a while.
[00:08:58]  And unfortunately, the Federal Reserve got off to a slow start thinking this was transitory, which is really, you know, one of the things that you have to concern yourself with, there was a study just recently done.
[00:09:08]  90% of the economists at the Federal Reserve or in their regional branches are Democrats.
[00:09:14]  And so they're going to have a more liberal view.
[00:09:16]  They're going to, to the extent they can, be more supportive of the current administration.
[00:09:21]  Unfortunately, that's not what the Federal Reserve is supposed to be.
[00:09:23]  It's supposed to be impartial.
[00:09:25]  It's supposed to be its own thing.
[00:09:26]  Yeah.
[00:09:27]  Yeah.
[00:09:27]  Right.
[00:09:28]  Well, David, thank you for joining us.
[00:09:30]  Great book.
[00:09:31]  I encourage everyone listening to check it out.
[00:09:33]  America in Perspective by David Sokol.
[00:09:35]  David, great commentary.
[00:09:36]  Thank you so much.
[00:09:38]  Thank you, Charlie.
[00:09:39]  It's very, very frustrating to see what's happening economically.
[00:09:42]  It feels intentional.
[00:09:43]  And then they say, oh, everything's doing just fine.
[00:09:45]  They want to know why a red wave is looming.
[00:09:46]  That's why.
[00:09:48]  And one of their internal decisions that they are making, they're not going to say this out loud.
[00:09:54]  And this is going to be, I could guarantee you, just mark down my words.
[00:09:56]  You'll see this in the New York Times.
[00:09:58]  Inflation is here to stay.
[00:09:59]  Get used to it.
[00:10:00]  It's better than a recession.
[00:10:02]  They're going to try to tell you it's better to be in a long-term inflationary cycle than into a negative growth cycle for a recession.
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=== Michigan Polls and Borders (15:18) ===

[00:11:33]  Joe Biden to announce the release of 10 to 15 million more barrels from the emergency oil reserves for the midterm elections.
[00:11:40]  Oh, so Joe Biden can just rob the Strategic Petroleum Reserve without refilling it and using our own oil and natural gas for political purposes.
[00:11:48]  Where's the Republican Party on this?
[00:11:51]  It's coming out today.
[00:11:52]  Joe Biden to release even more barrels of oil from the federal government's Strategic Reserve to keep gas low before the midterm elections.
[00:12:00]  Because they know something is happening.
[00:12:02]  Every single poll shows the complete and total collapse of the Democrat Party.
[00:12:07]  Now, is it going to play out?
[00:12:08]  I don't know.
[00:12:10]  Is it a guarantee red wave?
[00:12:11]  Of course, now we could be surprised, by the way.
[00:12:13]  It could be that we get complacent and you don't get your 30 friends to go out and vote.
[00:12:17]  It could be that we just kind of phone it in and there could be a lot more abortion voters than we realize.
[00:12:25]  But I'm starting to see a bubbling up effect.
[00:12:29]  I am starting to see poll after poll, trend after trend.
[00:12:35]  For example, a rather unusual one.
[00:12:37]  So Quinnipiak is known as one of the most inaccurate pollsters, but usually inaccurate in a liberal direction.
[00:12:45]  And this poll shows that Chuck Yuschumer is only up 12 points to a candidate that I've never heard of, Joe Pinnion.
[00:12:55]  God bless him for running.
[00:12:57]  I think I actually might have met him before.
[00:12:58]  Anyway, because I did some events in New York, seems like a really sweet guy, probably being outspent because Schumer is the majority leader.
[00:13:06]  And so they've polled this a little bit.
[00:13:07]  Now, New York is a very difficult state to poll.
[00:13:11]  One of the reasons why it's such a difficult state to poll is because there just isn't a lot of competitive political activity statewide.
[00:13:19]  So pollsters don't always know the city tabulation.
[00:13:23]  They can't really compare past years.
[00:13:25]  It's not a focus.
[00:13:26]  Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, still tough states to poll, but they pull them over a period of time.
[00:13:33]  So Chuck Yu Schumer is up 12 points on a very liberal poll with Quinnipiak against Joan Pinnion.
[00:13:40]  Now, remember how the New Jersey governor?
[00:13:44]  What's that guy's name?
[00:13:45]  Oh, geez, I'll think of it in a second.
[00:13:47]  Oh, he's the worst.
[00:13:48]  He almost lost.
[00:13:50]  Very, very tight.
[00:13:52]  What is his name?
[00:13:52]  The New Jersey guy.
[00:13:55]  Anyway, and then we had the amazing trucker who just kind of ran on a whim and spent like $42 on Dunkin' Donuts, who won out of nowhere.
[00:14:03]  Phil Murphy, thank you.
[00:14:04]  I should remember that.
[00:14:05]  Phil Murphy, the governor of New Jersey.
[00:14:07]  And he barely, barely won.
[00:14:09]  He won by like 8,000 votes.
[00:14:13]  So Chuck Schumer was up 19 points in a Sienna poll a month ago, and now he is up only 12 points in a liberal-favored poll in Quinnipiak, 12 points.
[00:14:23]  So that's a seven-point collapse.
[00:14:24]  And you see that in the generic.
[00:14:26]  And so what I'm saying, I know some of you guys say, I don't trust polls.
[00:14:28]  That's fine, but you could trust trends, right?
[00:14:31]  All across the country, you're seeing the narrowing of the Democrat Party's advantage.
[00:14:36]  In fact, Republicans are taking the advantage in so many of these states.
[00:14:40]  And that's one that I find to be very interesting.
[00:14:44]  In particular, I want to play a piece of tape here of how every single Republican should answer the question of, well, will you accept the election results?
[00:14:54]  I'm telling you, media get ready for it.
[00:14:57]  Arizona is going to be the new Florida.
[00:15:00]  Carrie Lake, everybody, one of the most exciting candidates of a generation.
[00:15:05]  She actually can play the media's game because she used to be one of them.
[00:15:08]  She's smarter, more charismatic, more talented than all of them combined.
[00:15:13]  She is a threat to the regime.
[00:15:16]  Play cut three.
[00:15:17]  Let's look ahead, Dana.
[00:15:19]  And let's talk about the 2022 election.
[00:15:22]  Will you accept the results of your election, Ms. Lake?
[00:15:25]  I'm running against a twice-convicted racist who cost the state taxpayers $3 million because of her hatred for people of color.
[00:15:34]  I'm going to win the election and I will accept that result.
[00:15:37]  If you lose, will you accept that?
[00:15:39]  I'm going to win the election and I will accept that result.
[00:15:43]  It's just such a silly question.
[00:15:44]  And by the way, is Stacey Abrams governor of Georgia?
[00:15:47]  New article out of politico.com.
[00:15:50]  Democrat midterms hope fade.
[00:15:51]  We peaked a little early.
[00:15:52]  Now is the time to go full throttle, everybody.
[00:15:55]  I got to ask the audience, how many doors are you knocking on?
[00:15:57]  If you're not physically able, that's okay.
[00:15:59]  How many phone calls are you making?
[00:16:01]  Are you a precinct committee person?
[00:16:02]  Are you a precinct captain?
[00:16:04]  Are you helping the good guys in your local community?
[00:16:07]  And if you say, oh, Charlie, I don't do that stuff, then you're a spectator.
[00:16:10]  You're not in the arena.
[00:16:11]  I can tell you what we are doing at Turning Point Action, led by Tyler Boyer.
[00:16:14]  Our students at Turning Point Action, our student volunteers, are knocking on tens of thousands of doors to try to persuade people to drive out and get out the vote.
[00:16:22]  At Turning Point Pack, we're running advertisements all across the country.
[00:16:26]  Running advertisers for Carrie Lake, running advertising against Blake Masters.
[00:16:29]  We got a lot of stuff on our plate, as you could imagine.
[00:16:31]  Over 200 grassroots door knocking events.
[00:16:34]  Turning point action is done from June to November.
[00:16:37]  Unprecedented, unparalleled.
[00:16:40]  Just do a little bit.
[00:16:41]  We got to go full out.
[00:16:42]  Get your 30 people out to the polls.
[00:16:44]  And you're like, oh, Charlie, I get 30 people easily.
[00:16:46]  Then get 300.
[00:16:47]  Go through your phone.
[00:16:48]  Go through your contacts and your phone and make sure every single one of them is voting.
[00:16:52]  Every single one.
[00:16:54]  As I said yesterday, I'm an election day guy.
[00:16:55]  If you vote early, that's fine too.
[00:16:58]  Hopefully in person.
[00:16:59]  Tudor Dixon next.
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[00:18:06]  A race to keep your eye on, I'm telling you, is in the state of Michigan.
[00:18:10]  It's a very difficult state to poll.
[00:18:13]  It's a state where some polls were coming out and they said, oh, it's going to be a total blowout.
[00:18:19]  I don't know.
[00:18:20]  It's a very talented woman who is running up against a very talented witch.
[00:18:26]  And she used to be a host on Real America's Voice, and now hopefully she'll be the next governor of the great state of Michigan.
[00:18:32]  And she's a true conservative with just an amazing story.
[00:18:36]  And every poll shows that she is tightening and closing in on Gretchen Whitmer, who is a wannabe dictator and one of the most despicable people in public office in America.
[00:18:47]  And Tudor Dixon joins us right now.
[00:18:49]  Tudor, welcome back to the program.
[00:18:51]  Thank you for having me.
[00:18:53]  How's the race going?
[00:18:54]  Give us the report from the front lines.
[00:18:56]  It's going great.
[00:18:57]  I mean, exactly what you said.
[00:18:59]  This is a very difficult state to poll.
[00:19:01]  We have had a lot of Republicans who have seen violence because of their views.
[00:19:06]  We had a right-to-life worker shot.
[00:19:07]  We've had people's cars spray painted, churches vandalized.
[00:19:11]  Republicans are very quiet in the state of Michigan, which makes it difficult to poll.
[00:19:15]  But we know that we are catching up to her in the polls that people are vocal in.
[00:19:20]  And I believe that we have a really good chance of winning Michigan.
[00:19:24]  And that will be incredibly important going forward for the Senate races coming up in Michigan in the coming years and the presidential race.
[00:19:34]  Yeah, every single article shows that her lead is shrinking.
[00:19:37]  And Tudor, you and I both know that really, if it's within four or five points, the race could go either way.
[00:19:43]  There just doesn't seem to be a lot of enthusiasm for Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:19:47]  What is her constituency?
[00:19:49]  I mean, is her constituency people that wanted to only have one person per vote while she was able to do whatever she wanted?
[00:19:55]  And her husband came and said, don't you know who I am?
[00:19:57]  Can you just, first of all, what is her constituency?
[00:20:00]  And then can you remind our audience how cruel she was when it came to the lockdowns?
[00:20:06]  Well, she seems to be losing people.
[00:20:08]  So right now, she gets the suburban mom vote.
[00:20:11]  And that's what we're fighting over.
[00:20:13]  But we seem to be winning that back because we're focusing so hard on making sure that moms and dads have a voice in their child's education.
[00:20:21]  And that's been a battle in the state of Michigan.
[00:20:23]  We know she's nervous because she is bringing Barack Obama in.
[00:20:27]  You're talking about her not having a lot of momentum, and she certainly doesn't.
[00:20:31]  She's bringing Barack Obama into the state.
[00:20:34]  But we see that people are getting tired of talking about abortion in Michigan.
[00:20:39]  And they're going, gosh, it's so expensive here.
[00:20:41]  Our gas, we have some of the highest gas prices in the entire nation.
[00:20:45]  And she's silent on that.
[00:20:47]  I called her out for not supporting the police.
[00:20:49]  And suddenly she signs a bill yesterday supporting the police.
[00:20:53]  People see through what she's doing.
[00:20:55]  They're not deceived by these last-minute bills she's signing.
[00:20:59]  Yeah, and I just, she just seems increasingly desperate.
[00:21:03]  You just had a debate against her, of which you did very, very well.
[00:21:07]  And I'm sure she's just trying to focus on the abortion issue and try to say that relentlessly.
[00:21:13]  But it seems as if she is just in total and complete collapse and freak out.
[00:21:17]  What is her message, if at all, when you confront her with the economic misery that people of Michigan are experiencing?
[00:21:23]  Or does she just try to deflect and say that we're all threats to democracy or whatever their new talking point?
[00:21:29]  Well, I'm not sure if you know what she has done in the state of Michigan, but we have, we, our economic development has been terrible.
[00:21:36]  We've had our big automakers leaving the state.
[00:21:39]  And so just recently, she signed a deal to send hundreds of millions of dollars to a corporation that is owned by the Chinese with very close ties to the Chinese Communist Party to bring them into the state of Michigan.
[00:21:52]  And another desperate attempt to look like she has some economic development plan.
[00:21:57]  But really, the plan is to take the scraps that people that no other state would want.
[00:22:01]  Why would we be bringing the CCP into the state of Michigan?
[00:22:05]  I can think of nothing more dangerous.
[00:22:07]  Yes, seriously.
[00:22:08]  I mean, and it really is an interesting thing.
[00:22:10]  I think you're the perfect candidate to go up against Gretchen Whitmer because, as you said, she does well with suburban mom voters.
[00:22:16]  I'm not really sure why, but there's a very interesting new coalition that is being built in Michigan.
[00:22:21]  I find it fascinating.
[00:22:22]  The media is ignoring it.
[00:22:25]  And I completely support, let's just say, unusual coalitions that are forming for the protection of our children.
[00:22:33]  Strange bedfellows, you could say.
[00:22:35]  And let's go to Cut 52, where very angry Muslim voters, one in particular, a Muslim mom in Dearborn, Michigan, is really upset at all this woke nonsense that's being put forward.
[00:22:46]  Play Cut 52.
[00:22:47]  The fundamental existence of school is not to learn about sexual pleasure, to not to learn about new sex acts.
[00:22:53]  The fundamental purpose of school is to prepare our kids to be successful adults who can go off and have careers.
[00:22:59]  And it is up to every parent to then teach their kids morality.
[00:23:02]  It is out of the place for the school to do it.
[00:23:04]  And I reject any notion that parents here are filled with hate or bigotry.
[00:23:08]  The parents don't want their kids sexualized.
[00:23:10]  Is there a Tudor Dixon Dearborn, Michigan rally coming up, maybe with the Muslim community up there?
[00:23:17]  Yes, we will be going out there next, not this Saturday, but next Saturday, we were headed to that general area this Saturday as well.
[00:23:28]  We've been in touch with the folks there.
[00:23:29]  Boy, it is interesting to see.
[00:23:32]  Turns out that our Muslim community is not a fan of having their children sexualized.
[00:23:37]  And the clip you just played, I believe, is our Secretary of State candidate, Christina Caramo, also out there fighting for families.
[00:23:45]  So important in the state of Michigan that we replaced the governor, the secretary of state, and the attorney general.
[00:23:52]  And the Muslim community has historically been a Democrat voting base.
[00:23:57]  And they are turning against this idea of what we're seeing in schools, taking away the basics and going to the sexualization.
[00:24:05]  And you see, our Department of Ed is now coming out and saying, We're training teachers to go into the classroom, ask pronouns, ask gender, and then hide it from mom and dad.
[00:24:14]  That was the moment when a lot of suburban parents, moms and dads, and a lot of folks from many different communities said, no, You are not, the school is not the authority.
[00:24:24]  We're not taking the honor away from mother and father.
[00:24:26]  That we are going to make sure that mom and dad are the final say.
[00:24:30]  And if there is an issue at the school, whether it is school-related or emotion, we want mom and dad to be involved first and foremost.
[00:24:38]  Yeah, I find this whole story to be so interesting.
[00:24:41]  I mean, without diving too deep, and obviously I have theological differences with Muslims.
[00:24:45]  However, I find this to be really promising that there is this kind of mass movement, as Axios writes it.
[00:24:52]  I mean, they hate it, right?
[00:24:53]  GOP unites with conservative Muslims in Dearborn.
[00:24:56]  It is now this interfaith coalition to kind of push back against this woke religion that is being taught in our schools.
[00:25:03]  Tudor, can you talk about kind of the parents' movement more broadly in Michigan?
[00:25:08]  I'm sure there's parents all across the state that are rising up in record numbers, especially, I'm sure, I think you're going to run up the score in Western Michigan.
[00:25:17]  I think Gretchen Whitmer has a mass Western Michigan problem.
[00:25:20]  So talk a little bit about that.
[00:25:23]  Of course, because our attorney general came out and said she thinks it would be fun to have a drag queen in every school.
[00:25:29]  So that really woke parents up.
[00:25:31]  And in addition to the fact that our kids were out of school for two years and parents started to see what was happening, our kids are severely behind, more so than probably any other state.
[00:25:40]  The learning loss in Michigan has been significant.
[00:25:43]  So when you add all of these things together, the parents coalition that has come together is very strong.
[00:25:48]  And parents are saying, we want a voice.
[00:25:51]  We want to know what's going on in the classroom.
[00:25:53]  Last night, for example, you talk about West Michigan.
[00:25:55]  Last night in one of our western Michigan towns, we had a group of parents that went to the school board and said, the books that you have in our high school are inappropriate.
[00:26:03]  Certain books, they're inappropriate.
[00:26:05]  And you know what?
[00:26:05]  The right thing happened.
[00:26:07]  The school board talked to them and said, we're going to pull these out of the library.
[00:26:11]  We will have them in the counselor's office to only talk to parents about.
[00:26:15]  And if a parent wants to then use it, then we will allow the parent to use it.
[00:26:20]  And the parents agreed to that.
[00:26:22]  And that, to me, that's the right thing when parents actually are heard, but that is not happening.
[00:26:27]  You look at Dearborn, where we have our Muslim community.
[00:26:29]  They are fighting back, and the school board is saying, no way, this has to be available to the students.
[00:26:35]  This is not acceptable to parents that their children are going to school and they're not learning civics, they're learning sex.
[00:26:42]  This is wrong.
[00:26:43]  We have to go back to a time when children actually understand the benefits of the freedoms of this country.
[00:26:49]  And they're not learning that in school now.

=== Correction on Whitmer (07:19) ===

[00:26:51]  Because, well, we saw a mother, a Chinese-American mother who came out and said, look, we've seen this in China.
[00:26:59]  The culture war is in the schools so that they can form their culture army to go against the parents.
[00:27:06]  We see that happening.
[00:27:07]  We had the, honestly, we have to look at the blessings in disaster and the blessing in COVID was the parents got to see what was happening in the classroom.
[00:27:16]  And parents in Michigan especially saw something they don't like.
[00:27:20]  But Gretchen Whitmer, where is she on this issue?
[00:27:22]  She has said nothing.
[00:27:23]  And we have asked several times, where do you stand on this issue?
[00:27:26]  And she has said nothing.
[00:27:27]  In fact, two board of ed members asked the superintendent to step down when he, when this training was leaked and he admitted that they are pushing sex and gender talk on students in school.
[00:27:39]  And he said, no, I'm going to double down.
[00:27:41]  We called on Gretchen Whitmer.
[00:27:43]  Do you stand on the superintendent, the state superintendent, doubling down on sex and gender talk with our kids?
[00:27:49]  Silence from her.
[00:27:50]  That is where she is losing these parents across the state that say, no way, we are no longer going to be play second fiddle.
[00:27:58]  And it would be one thing if you had an education system that was thriving.
[00:28:02]  But before COVID, we were 38th in the nation.
[00:28:06]  After COVID, we're headed toward the bottom five states in the nation.
[00:28:10]  Our education system is failing on the basic fundamentals of making sure kids can read, write, and do math.
[00:28:16]  And we're focused on sex.
[00:28:18]  And it is so perverse.
[00:28:20]  And we're seeing it happen all across the country.
[00:28:23]  I think you're going to be a mass beneficiary of this movement.
[00:28:27]  So, Tudor, talk about your website.
[00:28:29]  Gretchen Whitmer is funded out of state.
[00:28:32]  She's got a lot of money.
[00:28:33]  How significantly are you being outspent?
[00:28:36]  Well, we, I'll tell you, our website is tutordixon.com.
[00:28:40]  It's T-U-D-O-R-D-I-X-O-N.com.
[00:28:43]  Please go there.
[00:28:44]  We are being significantly outspent.
[00:28:47]  She has spent about $25 million in the state so far to our probably about two to three million in the state so far.
[00:28:56]  And she has booked probably another about 25 million in ads to go after us.
[00:29:02]  But that's the beauty of traditional American values.
[00:29:07]  And honestly, I think this is a message to people across the country.
[00:29:11]  If you run on the fundamentals that this country was founded on, it is a winning message because that will always be what Americans want.
[00:29:20]  And we don't need as much money.
[00:29:22]  We need money.
[00:29:22]  We don't need as much money.
[00:29:24]  We have the right message and we have the right plan for the state and the country.
[00:29:27]  I'm telling you, you go up to Dearborn, Michigan, to Rashida Talib's place.
[00:29:31]  She represents Dearborn, right?
[00:29:32]  I think so.
[00:29:33]  That kind of area.
[00:29:34]  Yes, she does.
[00:29:35]  And you get even just 10 to 15% of that community to vote Republican.
[00:29:41]  I think the state can turn.
[00:29:42]  You run up the score in Western Michigan.
[00:29:44]  You do better kind of in those Trump districts, Wayne County, all those beautiful places.
[00:29:48]  And you get that Dearborn, Michigan area, which is solidly Democrat to just think a little differently.
[00:29:54]  You are talking about a shocker in Michigan.
[00:29:57]  Tudor Dixon, we're behind you.
[00:29:58]  Check it out.
[00:29:58]  T-U-D-O-RDixon.com.
[00:30:01]  Tudor Dixon, pitch in some support.
[00:30:04]  She's special.
[00:30:04]  Thank you, Tudor.
[00:30:05]  God bless you, and come back on soon.
[00:30:07]  Thank you so much.
[00:30:11]  Somebody emailed us.
[00:30:12]  They said, Charlie, I'm a Christian.
[00:30:13]  I feel uncomfortable fighting alongside Muslims against this woke stuff.
[00:30:17]  Look, I'm obviously a Christian, and I have mass theological differences with Islam and with what Muslims believe.
[00:30:26]  And there are some people that have some great concerns that there is this kind of Islamic move to take over the Western world via population rates and stuff.
[00:30:35]  There's other people that believe in a red-green axis.
[00:30:37]  I'm more likely to believe that, which is some Islamic governments that are somehow okay with Marxist movements for the kind of simultaneous destruction of America.
[00:30:47]  But I'm going to say something that will obviously get written up, of which I hope I'm very, I'm make sure I'm very precise in my language.
[00:30:53]  White liberal wokeism is a greater threat than Islamic theocratic totalitarianism currently.
[00:31:02]  We grew up with a heavy emphasis in the early 2000s and in the 2010s talking about the threat of Islamic theocratic terrorism, totalitarianism.
[00:31:12]  Obviously, I'm no fan of Iran.
[00:31:13]  I think they're a threat to America.
[00:31:15]  But currently, where we are today, a threat to our children, our way of life, our decency and our standards, white liberals are a much bigger threat in every way possible.
[00:31:26]  And I will unite with strange bedfellows, of which I have very clear and well-documented theological and metaphysical differences with, to annihilate the power that white liberals have.
[00:31:42]  Let me make one more correction.
[00:31:44]  Christine Kamaro is not the Attorney General candidate, I believe.
[00:31:47]  Let me make sure this is right.
[00:31:48]  She's running for Secretary of State.
[00:31:50]  So we're okay.
[00:31:50]  Thank you for the correction.
[00:31:53]  Our correction was not even correct on the correction we need to make.
[00:31:56]  All right.
[00:31:56]  So it's the Secretary of State candidate.
[00:31:58]  Thank you for the email, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:32:00]  Okay.
[00:32:01]  Let's get to a piece of sound here.
[00:32:03]  One of my favorite senators saw him a couple weeks ago at a pastor summit we did with Turning Point Action in Wisconsin.
[00:32:08]  Senator Ron Johnson, this is how you got to talk.
[00:32:10]  Johnson is he has real separation speed against Mandela Barnes, play cut 25.
[00:32:17]  I think there probably has been a shift because we've been able to tell the truth about Mandela Barnes.
[00:32:23]  He's an individual who said that the founding of America was awful.
[00:32:26]  He and Governor Evers, their goal coming into office was to reduce the prison population by 50%.
[00:32:33]  It's been reduced by 15%, including their commission has paroled 884 criminals, 784 were violent criminals, including 44 child rapists and 270 criminals who primarily committed or at least attempted murder, and they were horrific murders.
[00:32:51]  And now we just found out that Mandela Barnes, as a state assemblyman, literally went on Russia Today TV six times and was used as a propaganda tool of Vladimir Putin.
[00:33:04]  Senator Ron Johnson is gaining speed, gaining separation speed, I should say, against Mandela Barnes.
[00:33:13]  We are seeing some great trends in Wisconsin.
[00:33:15]  I want to play one more tape here of the great JD Vance, who looks like he's going to be the next senator from the great state of Ohio, which gives us great joy here.
[00:33:23]  JD Vance, cut 42.
[00:33:26]  So Tim Ryan has run commercials falsely accusing my nonprofit of me taking money out of it and it not helping people.
[00:33:32]  It did help people when I put $80,000 in my own money, Tim.
[00:33:35]  But you know what?
[00:33:36]  Those commercials are paid for by pharmaceutical blood money because Tim Ryan received tens of thousands of dollars from the very companies that have profited off of this.
[00:33:45]  And that's exactly how he's able to fund the lies that he's been putting on TV against me.
[00:33:50]  That's right.
[00:33:51]  Tim Ryan is a spokesperson and a puppet of the pharmaceutical drug industry as he coughs.
[00:33:59]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:34:00]  Email me as always freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:34:02]  Thanks so much for listening.
[00:34:03]  God bless.
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