The Charlie Kirk Show - What is a Libertarian, a Leftist, a Liberal, and a Conservative? LIVE from GCU
Aired: 2022-10-15
Duration: 01:27:00


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[00:00:04]  I give a speech about what is a libertarian, what is a leftist, what is a liberal, what is a conservative, and then I take questions from the audience.
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=== Defining Libertarians and Liberals (14:19) ===

[00:01:32]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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[00:02:16]  It's awesome.
[00:02:16]  I live here in Arizona, not too far away.
[00:02:19]  So not too bad of a commute.
[00:02:20]  You know, people always try to pin me down.
[00:02:22]  They say, you know, Charlie, are you an ASU guy or a U of A guy?
[00:02:26]  I always say, you know, if I had to choose, it'd be more like GCU than U of A.
[00:02:30]  And I get so much hate when I say that.
[00:02:34]  And I don't care.
[00:02:36]  And so it's great to be here.
[00:02:37]  Kind of the most fun part about this is when we get to do questions, we get to talk and we get to see where we disagree or we agree.
[00:02:43]  So we'll do that in a little bit.
[00:02:45]  I thought it would be helpful, though, tonight to kind of go through how people identify philosophically and through a worldview.
[00:02:52]  I know a lot of you are Christians.
[00:02:53]  I know this is a Christian school.
[00:02:55]  I know not all of you are Christians.
[00:02:56]  And so we can have a discussion about that.
[00:02:58]  But there's all these labels and terms that are thrown out.
[00:03:01]  And you can feel free to disagree with any, you know, how I'm doing these descriptions, but they're approximately right.
[00:03:06]  It's just basic, it's in the general direction.
[00:03:09]  And it's kind of four different categories.
[00:03:10]  And you hear these words thrown around a lot.
[00:03:13]  Liberal, libertarian, conservative, leftist, totalitarian.
[00:03:18]  What do those words actually mean?
[00:03:19]  Well, I'm going to do the best job I possibly can to fairly talk about that.
[00:03:23]  And then I'll tell you when I'm not being, I guess I'm always being fair when I'm being brutally honest, honestly, about some of those descriptions.
[00:03:29]  And then you can decide, you know, what category you fall into because, you know, I know a lot of you here tonight probably pick and choose from a lot of different political ideologies and philosophies.
[00:03:40]  I prefer the term worldview, honestly.
[00:03:42]  I think that's a better way to look at it.
[00:03:44]  I would encourage all of you always to have a Christian and biblical worldview when you look through all things.
[00:03:48]  We can talk about what that actually means and how that impacts politics.
[00:03:51]  There is kind of a movement to try to get Christians not involved in these things at all.
[00:03:55]  I think that's a huge mistake.
[00:03:56]  I think we as Christians should be more involved than ever in the public square and more involved than ever in the issues of what is right and wrong and good and evil and kind of how we orient our entire society.
[00:04:06]  Because absent an objective moral standard, then who's to say a line is crooked if you don't have a straight line to compare it to, as C.S. Lewis would say.
[00:04:15]  So let's go through the four different categories because they're kind of interchangeably talked about all the time.
[00:04:19]  The first of which is a leftist.
[00:04:22]  I would say that leftist today, it's kind of always a changing, moving target.
[00:04:27]  Very much a totalitarian or someone that would want to impose things on a certain kind of group of people.
[00:04:34]  I'll give you some examples of that.
[00:04:35]  The second is a liberal.
[00:04:36]  There are differences between liberals and leftists.
[00:04:40]  And I'll tell you kind of how I view that.
[00:04:42]  And then libertarians.
[00:04:43]  I'm sure we have some libertarians here tonight.
[00:04:45]  Couple, three.
[00:04:47]  Okay, good.
[00:04:48]  You know, it's very interesting.
[00:04:50]  When we first started Turning Point USA, and I used to ask, hey, how many libertarians are out there?
[00:04:55]  People would always like applaud and kind of show their pocket constitution.
[00:04:59]  Not as many libertarians know.
[00:05:01]  I have a theory as to why.
[00:05:02]  And then, of course, the fourth category of conservatives.
[00:05:05]  So let's go through the four as I see it.
[00:05:06]  Okay, so leftists as today.
[00:05:08]  And by the way, if I were to give this speech 10 years ago, I would describe a leftist a little bit differently than I would today.
[00:05:14]  But leftists, more than anything else, I would say they have a very specific view of the country, view of the world.
[00:05:21]  They're unapologetic about wanting to use political power to effectuate that.
[00:05:25]  In modern America, hyper-focused on race, hyper-focused on trying to redesign society, and also rather indifferent towards, not indifferent, hostile towards American history, the American founding, Western civilization, very outspoken about what they would see as systemic injustices.
[00:05:46]  Now, if I had a leftist in front of me, I don't think they could disagree with what I just said, right?
[00:05:49]  That is basically their song sheet saying America is sexist.
[00:05:53]  It's racist, it's xenophobic, it's homophobic.
[00:05:55]  We were actually founded in 1619, not 1776.
[00:05:58]  You know, if you're white, you have white privilege, that we need to kind of invert society and try to have reparations and massive amounts of governmental power to try to right the wrongs of things that happened a long time ago.
[00:06:10]  I think that's probably a fair way to say it.
[00:06:12]  Now, how that actually plays itself out, very interesting.
[00:06:15]  So I would say that kind of, let me just be very clear, trying to use that kind of force and that kind of power in that upside down way, I think is sinister and evil and wrong.
[00:06:23]  That's my kind of commentary, but you guys can feel free to disagree.
[00:06:26]  The second of which are liberals.
[00:06:28]  Now, liberals are different than leftists.
[00:06:29]  They have a lot in common, by the way.
[00:06:31]  Liberals will see things similarly, but they'll stop short of how willing they're actually, how willing they are to actually use government power.
[00:06:38]  A great example is like one of the last liberals in America, Alan Dershowitz, right?
[00:06:42]  Alan Dershowitz, he's pro-abortion.
[00:06:45]  He's generally very relaxed on immigration, but he still has an honest, you know, kind of, I would say, moral fiber where he'll go and defend people for their right to speech, to speak.
[00:06:54]  Now, that's a very important distinction between leftists and liberals is the issue of speech.
[00:06:59]  If you think speech can be hostile because you say something offensive, you're a leftist.
[00:07:04]  If you think speech is necessary towards a free society and you say, get over it, because you hear something offensive, you're not a leftist.
[00:07:10]  You might be one of the other three categories.
[00:07:12]  The other three categories have at least a higher than not value on believing that we as human beings are the speaking beings.
[00:07:20]  And from a Christian biblical worldview, we're made in the image of God.
[00:07:24]  God spoke into existence.
[00:07:25]  In the beginning was the word, the word was God, and the word became flesh, that word logos.
[00:07:29]  Rational speech, what makes us different than the beasts of the wild?
[00:07:32]  We're able to reason.
[00:07:34]  We're able to tell the just from the unjust, not just pain from pleasure.
[00:07:37]  Speech is who we are.
[00:07:39]  It's not just some indifferent thing what differentiates us from dogs or animals or the beasts of the wild.
[00:07:44]  Okay, so a leftist, though, believes, and you see this playing out all in society, that if you say something wrong, that if you say something offensive, you could actually be making the world more hostile and dangerous.
[00:07:56]  They would call this hate speech.
[00:07:57]  You see that kind of spreading all across America today.
[00:08:00]  A liberal wouldn't go that far.
[00:08:02]  A true, honest liberal would say, boy, I believe there are systemic injustices.
[00:08:06]  I believe there's issues here, but I'll still kind of rely on freedom of speech and classical liberal values to solve some of the issues.
[00:08:12]  There's very few liberals left in America.
[00:08:15]  If there's any here tonight, I would love to meet you and talk to you.
[00:08:18]  There's very few liberals.
[00:08:19]  There's a lot of leftists and they control almost everything.
[00:08:22]  Okay, the third category, an even more dying breed, in some ways that's a good thing, in other ways it's not a good thing, because it actually used to be a really good holding pattern for young people before they grew up and became conservatives, which are libertarians, which is a libertarian is someone who believes more than anything else, the most hostile thing you could possibly do is use government power and use the government for any purpose whatsoever.
[00:08:45]  Now, if I had to use a word to describe libertarianism, it would be indifferent.
[00:08:50]  Now, that might be a little harsh for some of you that are libertarians watching online, but it's the principle of not using government is more important than what might actually be happening out in society.
[00:09:01]  So, for example, who's to say that we should use government to clean up people using drugs on the side of the street?
[00:09:07]  We just can't make government any bigger because it doesn't matter what the result is, our principle disallows us from interfering with that particular action.
[00:09:16]  Now, I have a lot in common with libertarians on certain issues: speech.
[00:09:20]  Libertarians tend to be like 100% pro-free speech absolutists.
[00:09:24]  Libertarians are also very good on the Second Amendment.
[00:09:26]  Could not agree more, by the way.
[00:09:28]  The Second Amendment protects all the other amendments.
[00:09:30]  We can go into that later if you guys choose.
[00:09:32]  Where I disagree with libertarians a lot on is when there is a moral crisis happening in front of us, if the excuse is, well, we can't do anything because it might violate my principles, I say, wait a second.
[00:09:43]  If children are being medically mutilated for profit, if you have a homelessness crisis and our country's being invaded, I really don't need a lecture about government indifference.
[00:09:54]  Let's solve the problem prudently and appropriately because the good is greater than your principle as a bumper sticker they might wear.
[00:10:02]  It's like, well, no matter what, we can't use the government because the government's the worst thing ever.
[00:10:06]  Now, I'm no fan of expanding government.
[00:10:07]  We're the people that came up with big government socks, obviously.
[00:10:10]  But we don't like the government, not just because it's fashionable not to like the government.
[00:10:14]  We don't like the government because we don't like power being concentrated too much for two reasons, you know, two awful reasons.
[00:10:21]  But we're not going to turn a blind eye to sort of injustices.
[00:10:24]  And that leads us to conservatives.
[00:10:25]  What is a conservative?
[00:10:26]  You hear that term used all the time.
[00:10:28]  Well, a conservative is someone who recognizes the good, the true, and the beautiful, does not like using government that resists it.
[00:10:34]  It's in the mold of the founding fathers and the framers.
[00:10:36]  A conservative is someone who agrees with James Madison in Federalist 51 that men are not angels.
[00:10:42]  We're not perfect.
[00:10:43]  We prefer limited government.
[00:10:45]  We want to yield to people's virtue.
[00:10:47]  However, conservatives are willing, if necessary, to step up and do what is right when you start to see a moral or societal crisis unfolding around you.
[00:10:56]  So let me use one example, right?
[00:10:58]  Right now, there's this massive controversy.
[00:11:00]  You got that smug comedian Jon Stewart kind of gallivanting around this whole issue of should we as society accept, make it acceptable that Phoenix Children's Hospital, you know, wants to go do what they call transgender reassignment surgeries for profit, right?
[00:11:17]  Is that something we as society should say, you know what?
[00:11:19]  Yeah, that's fine.
[00:11:20]  Or should we say, well, I'm timeout?
[00:11:22]  Maybe there's not just unforeseen irreversible damage, but why is it that a major organization is going to make standard millions, if not billions of dollars, preying on children when they're 12 and 13 when they really don't really understand their place in the world?
[00:11:35]  Like maybe we should pause and say kind of waging war on God's design when someone's 12 or 13 is not super smart.
[00:11:41]  So let's go through each category.
[00:11:42]  Okay, how does a leftist view that?
[00:11:44]  Well, not only does a leftist view that the kind of medical mutilation surgery happening at Phoenix Children's Hospital is okay, they say if you disagree with it, we want you kicked off social media.
[00:11:56]  We want to be able to kick you off your banking, and you're a bad person.
[00:12:00]  Not only do they think it's okay, but if you dare have a disagreement in that specific policy, we're going to make your life harder.
[00:12:08]  Okay, you might have that view.
[00:12:09]  A liberal would say, okay, you know, we're okay with 11-year-olds having irreversible, you know, breast removal surgery or taking Lupron or what this incredibly graphic stuff happening, but we don't necessarily want to shut up people that might believe in this.
[00:12:22]  A libertarian would say, well, let the market decide.
[00:12:27]  Come on, like, let's just have, if people want, when they're 11 years old, they'll chop off their parts.
[00:12:32]  Let's have a clinic on every corner and market forces will decide that.
[00:12:36]  That's what a libertarian would say.
[00:12:37]  We as conservatives would say, this is evil and wrong, and we're not going to put up with the medical mutilation of our children for profit, period.
[00:12:45]  We're not going to put up with it.
[00:12:47]  Now, some people find that to be disagreeable.
[00:12:52]  So if you're not willing to use prudent incremental laws to protect children, then what are you willing to do?
[00:13:01]  And that one specific example gets so misrepresented.
[00:13:05]  And people say, well, you know, Charlie, when they're 12 and 13, you know, they might be more likely to, you know, commit suicide and all this.
[00:13:12]  We can go in that direction if you want.
[00:13:13]  Statistics show that there is a spike in self-esteem and in someone's own self-value and worth after a couple of years, and then it plummets after five to 10 years, of which there's a mass community of regret and all that.
[00:13:24]  But that's not even the main point.
[00:13:26]  The main point is much more important, which is what do we as a society put up with currently?
[00:13:31]  And that's where a conservative can say, well, look, we don't love the fact that there might have to be a new law.
[00:13:37]  But if there are laws at all, the law that I would pass before any others is the ones that protect those that can't protect themselves.
[00:13:44]  Okay, the second issue, the border, right?
[00:13:46]  Our border is completely and totally wide open.
[00:13:48]  We live here in a border state.
[00:13:50]  A leftist would say borders by definition are racist.
[00:13:54]  The idea of a border is wrong.
[00:13:56]  You hear it all the time on television, right?
[00:13:58]  Who has borders?
[00:13:58]  By the way, they live in gated mansions and gated communities, of course, obviously.
[00:14:02]  But they won't just say that we should have open borders.
[00:14:05]  They would say the idea of a border is wrong.
[00:14:08]  How dare borders ever exist?
[00:14:10]  They are nothing more than outgrowths of a white supremacist colonialist experiment, and we should just get rid of borders altogether.
[00:14:18]  Anyone could go anywhere they want at any time for any reason, okay?
[00:14:22]  Now, a liberal would say, hey, like, you know, maybe we can have some border protections, but generally we should allow people to come and go as they please because we just, we don't want to offend people.
[00:14:35]  That's what a liberal would go.
[00:14:37]  A liberal is much more likely to be weak when there's a crisis.
[00:14:40]  It's very important.
[00:14:41]  Different than a leftist.
[00:14:42]  A leftist, they're not weak.
[00:14:43]  They are going full speed ahead.
[00:14:45]  They know what they want and they're going to get it quickly.
[00:14:47]  Now, a libertarian, a true libertarian, now there is some disagreement in the libertarian community, to be very honest, about the issue of immigration, but a legit doctrine libertarian would say, free flow of people, citizenship is nothing more than a card that you carry.
[00:15:02]  It really doesn't matter.
[00:15:03]  Let's just let people come and go as they please.
[00:15:06]  Now, a conservative would say, whoa, hold on a second.
[00:15:09]  A country is a social contract.
[00:15:12]  It's a people.
[00:15:12]  It's a language.
[00:15:13]  It's a tradition.
[00:15:13]  It's a culture.
[00:15:15]  Of course, we can invite people into our nation when we see it appropriate to benefit the mission statement or our own country.
[00:15:22]  But that's a key word, invite.
[00:15:25]  If you are not invited, then you are invading, and we're not going to put up with it.
[00:15:28]  In fact, that's why we would need increased border security and not allow 5 million people to walk into your country every single year.
[00:15:35]  That's how a conservative would respond to that.
[00:15:37]  Now, mind you, that is a popular position with the vast majority of the American people.
[00:15:41]  But if you dare say that, they say, well, you know, you're totally racist and all that, which goes right back to the central theme of you can't have policy disagreements anymore without them calling you the worst things you could possibly hear, which, of course, I honestly don't care.

=== The Social Contract of Nations (14:44) ===

[00:15:51]  I've been called everything.
[00:15:52]  I would give you great advice for your life.
[00:15:54]  Say what is true and don't care what people call you.
[00:15:56]  You'll be very free and very happy.
[00:15:58]  If you walk around always worrying about being called a racist or whatever nonsensical thing they say, you're not going to be a happy person.
[00:16:04]  You're always going to be walking around being somebody different in private than you are in public.
[00:16:09]  The happiest people are people that get to be the same person in public that they are in private.
[00:16:13]  Those are the happiest people.
[00:16:15]  Okay, the last one, actually two more I'll use as kind of a contrast.
[00:16:17]  Then I'll talk a little bit about Christianity, then we'll do some questions.
[00:16:20]  Okay, critical race theory.
[00:16:21]  What is critical race theory?
[00:16:23]  Well, critical race theory is an outgrowth of critical theory, critical legal theory, 1960s, 1970s.
[00:16:27]  Herbert Marcuse passed on to Michelle Foucault and Jacques Derrida.
[00:16:31]  It's a way of viewing the world.
[00:16:32]  Basically, many of you know what economic Marxism is.
[00:16:35]  Okay, economic Marxism is oppressed versus oppressor type class struggle, bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, business owners versus labor, working class, that kind of struggle.
[00:16:46]  Well, in the 1960s, Herbert Marcuse from the Frankfurt School in Germany came to America and he looked around and he said, boy, our Marxist movement is not doing too well.
[00:16:56]  It's not doing great because the American middle class is actually successfully integrating into a private property-based market system and Marxism is kind of fizzling out.
[00:17:05]  So then he conjectured, what if we come up with a new type of Marxism, not economic Marxism, but race Marxism?
[00:17:13]  And that's actually the name of James Lindsay's book that I encourage you guys to check out.
[00:17:16]  Dr. James Lindsay wrote a whole book called Race Marxism, which is taking that same sort of struggle.
[00:17:20]  And he said, the real struggle is not rich versus poor.
[00:17:22]  It's not the bourgeoisie versus proletariat.
[00:17:24]  It's white versus people of color.
[00:17:27]  Now, this used to be a fringe theory, introduction to critical race theory, written by Derek Bell in the early 1990s.
[00:17:32]  No one ever took it seriously because we were all raised in a country.
[00:17:35]  And actually, many of you in the audience to a lesser extent, because you probably don't even remember this country as much as, you know, those of us that are 28 know to remember, which is we used to strive to be a colorblind society.
[00:17:45]  Yeah, we've thrown all that out.
[00:17:47]  The vision and the dream of Martin Luther King, gone.
[00:17:50]  Now it is about systemic oppression, white privilege, and doing whatever is necessary to try to fix those problems, including Ibram X. Kendi, who says that we need discrimination today to fix the discrimination of yesterday.
[00:18:01]  And I'll prove exactly what he means by that.
[00:18:03]  So with critical race theory, it's not just bad ideology.
[00:18:06]  It's not just, here's the best way I can describe CRT to you with all that philosophical stuff aside.
[00:18:11]  It's calling everything you don't like racist until you control it.
[00:18:18]  That's what CRT is.
[00:18:19]  Just keep calling it racist until you control it.
[00:18:21]  The banking system is racist.
[00:18:23]  The colleges are racist until all of a sudden you're in control of it and it really is a major power grab.
[00:18:27]  Okay, so if you asked a leftist about race in America, they would say the worst thing, the worst thing you could possibly is a straight white man, right?
[00:18:35]  They'd say that it's the problem with the entire society, the structure, the bones of society comes down to the issues of straight white men.
[00:18:41]  A liberal would say, look, there's systemic racism, but maybe we make some moderate improvements around the edges and we don't do anything too dramatic.
[00:18:50]  But they would admit with the premise that America is systemically racist.
[00:18:54]  A libertarian, they're all over the place.
[00:18:56]  You know what they would say?
[00:18:56]  Privatize it.
[00:18:58]  That's not even the question.
[00:18:59]  They would say, just privatize.
[00:19:00]  Like, okay, we're not even asking you.
[00:19:01]  Okay, anyway, that's what a libertarian would say, okay?
[00:19:04]  If you get the government out of it, okay, I agree with that.
[00:19:07]  Where a conservative would say, hold on a second.
[00:19:12]  Discrimination is wrong.
[00:19:13]  I couldn't care less about the color of your skin.
[00:19:15]  It means nothing to me.
[00:19:17]  I care about your character.
[00:19:18]  I care about your actions.
[00:19:20]  I care about your values.
[00:19:21]  And I want to live in a country where people are not talking about race.
[00:19:25]  In fact, I'm very, very worried we're heading into a country where we are re-tribalizing ourselves and we should not put up with this kind of discrimination.
[00:19:34]  For example, there's black-only dormitories on hundreds of, not hundreds, about 120 schools across the country.
[00:19:40]  Black-only graduation ceremonies, hiring quotas that are saying that we are going to give racial preference and hiring to certain minority ethnic groups.
[00:19:48]  So, basically, to Ibram X. Kendi's, you know, dream of we need discrimination today to fix the discrimination of yesterday.
[00:19:56]  So, finally, kind of viewing America, which is honestly the most important thing, not a huge, not a huge news flash.
[00:20:01]  Flash, we're very, very pro-American at Turning Point USA.
[00:20:04]  We believe it's the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
[00:20:07]  And what a blessing from the Lord to live here, truly.
[00:20:12]  And so, a leftist would say, Look, America is evil.
[00:20:17]  It was evil at its founding.
[00:20:18]  It's been evil at every single corner and turned.
[00:20:20]  Now, if I had to overgeneralize, a leftist or a totalitarian or a statist or a progressive, however you want to say it, they're very ungrateful people.
[00:20:29]  They are.
[00:20:30]  And that's not an insult, it's a fact.
[00:20:32]  I never hear, let's just say, long speeches of gratitude from the American left.
[00:20:39]  I never hear about we live in the wealthiest, most prosperous nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
[00:20:44]  That is the envy of all people.
[00:20:46]  And praise God, I was born here and not in Vietnam.
[00:20:51]  Rarely do I hear that.
[00:20:52]  Rarely from people like Congresswoman Elon Omar, who's actually the beneficiary of American generosity.
[00:20:58]  I have to hear from her that we're systemically racist, even though she was accepted from a Kenyan refugee camp from Somalia into America and became a congresswoman in our system.
[00:21:08]  That's probably a pretty good system.
[00:21:10]  But I have to hear about how America is systemically racist repeatedly.
[00:21:13]  It is rooted in ingratitude.
[00:21:14]  Conservatives generally have gratitude for this unbelievable country we get to live in.
[00:21:19]  Do we have problems?
[00:21:20]  Of course, we do.
[00:21:20]  I could give a whole speech on the problems.
[00:21:22]  But boy, do the benefits outweigh the negatives in this nation.
[00:21:25]  And I would love to hear more about that in the kind of political talk in our country.
[00:21:28]  Anyway, liberals would say, look, that, yeah, America is special, but what made America special, this is the liberal argument, is not our founding.
[00:21:36]  It's not Jefferson, Madison, Jay, Hamilton, Washington.
[00:21:40]  What made America special is our massive movements of progress the more we turned our back on the founders.
[00:21:47]  That would be the modern liberal argument.
[00:21:49]  The modern liberal argument would say, hey, the founders got it wrong, but our ability to correct the founders is actually what makes us great.
[00:21:56]  This is rubbish.
[00:21:57]  It started with Woodrow Wilson in the 19, you know, 1913, 1914, 1915.
[00:22:02]  We could talk about slavery and all that stuff, you guys, in the question and answer, but be very clear.
[00:22:05]  Let's be very clear.
[00:22:06]  The founding fathers got the most important thing right, which is they understood that human beings are the speaking beings.
[00:22:13]  They understood that power should not be concentrated.
[00:22:15]  They understood separation of powers, consent to the governed.
[00:22:18]  They understood the structure that is necessary to create a government for people to flourish.
[00:22:22]  And they had the courage and they were animated to act on that.
[00:22:25]  And we are all beneficiaries of that, period.
[00:22:28]  And people love to, you know, go after the founding fathers, mostly on lies, by the way.
[00:22:31]  They say, oh, they were majority slave owners.
[00:22:33]  Not true.
[00:22:34]  In fact, nine out of 13 of the states, by the time the Constitution was ratified, had already eliminated slavery.
[00:22:39]  The first anti-slavery convention was held in 1775 before the signing of the Declaration of Independence, chaired by Benjamin Franklin.
[00:22:46]  There's all sorts of different lies that kind of get into the zeitgeist.
[00:22:48]  We could talk one by one by one.
[00:22:50]  Thomas Jefferson wrote in the first draft of the Declaration of Independence a letter to King George admonishing King George for bringing the sin of the slave trade to America.
[00:22:58]  Thomas Jefferson fought for abolitionist slaves in his home state of Virginia, despite he himself owning slaves.
[00:23:03]  Contradiction, of course, paradox, yes.
[00:23:05]  We're all, by the way, walking contradictions.
[00:23:07]  Called being a sinner.
[00:23:09]  He was trying to eliminate slavery in his lifetime, as George Washington said.
[00:23:11]  It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when we get rid of the slave trade.
[00:23:15]  It was America and Britain, the first two civilizations ever to get rid of slavery, period.
[00:23:22]  No other civilization even tried to do it, thought to do it, aspired to do it.
[00:23:26]  And news flash for the Virtue Signal leftists out there.
[00:23:28]  There are more slaves on the planet today than there were back at the time of the American founding.
[00:23:34]  There's more slavery on the southern border, in the Horn of Africa, in the Middle East, and in China.
[00:23:39]  More human beings are owned by human beings today than any other time in human history on the planet today.
[00:23:44]  Okay, anyway, so liberals would say there's, you know, like there's it's it's how we turned our back on the founders that would make America exceptional.
[00:23:50]  A libertarian, again, it's all over the place.
[00:23:53]  I'm just doing my best.
[00:23:54]  I'm trying to be fair, but they basically say, look, what was great about America is how we had limited government, and anything we've done besides limited government has been awful.
[00:24:02]  And let's go back to 1787.
[00:24:04]  That would be, and in some way, they were right about this.
[00:24:08]  But I think they get a lot wrong there.
[00:24:10]  Okay, but conservatives would say, well, hold on a second.
[00:24:13]  Say, America is not an idea.
[00:24:17]  Of course, we have ideas in America, but we are a people.
[00:24:19]  We're a tradition.
[00:24:20]  We're a custom.
[00:24:21]  We're an attitude.
[00:24:23]  We are the great beacon for liberty, for freedom, for opportunity, for a dream for people of any color or background that have ever come here.
[00:24:31]  And yes, America, because of its structure, because of its ideas, because of its heroism, because of its commitment, because of its actions, because of your parents and grandparents, we're the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
[00:24:42]  And that's, I couldn't imagine, wow.
[00:24:46]  That was great timing, by the way.
[00:24:47]  I have to say.
[00:24:49]  Greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
[00:24:51]  I planned that, by the way.
[00:24:54]  And here's where it comes down to it.
[00:24:56]  Here's the final thing when it comes to it.
[00:24:58]  We as conservatives are not going to put up with or tolerate the intentional destruction of that nation that we are beneficiaries of.
[00:25:08]  We're not going to put up with that.
[00:25:13]  Okay.
[00:25:14]  So let me close kind of on the Christian note and then we'll do some questions for a little bit.
[00:25:18]  Okay, so when you ask the question of what kind of government do we want to form, you have to ask some very, very simple questions.
[00:25:24]  Again, I'm going to make some generalizations and some approximations based on those other four categories, but I'm just going to condense it down to the status, totalitarians, progressives, or leftists, and conservatives.
[00:25:34]  So one of the most important questions is, what is a human being?
[00:25:37]  Now, we as Christians, if you're a Christian, great.
[00:25:40]  If you're not a Christian, that's fine.
[00:25:41]  I'm not trying to generalize, but it was a Christian school.
[00:25:43]  So hear me out here.
[00:25:45]  We have a very simple biblical answer for this.
[00:25:47]  A human being is made of the image of God with a soul, with a date, with eternity, and you've got two options.
[00:25:56]  Therefore, that being has rights not given to you by government, but by a creator.
[00:26:02]  And government cannot take those rights away.
[00:26:04]  Government didn't give you those rights.
[00:26:06]  Government is there to protect those rights.
[00:26:08]  Now, I will go a step further to say that we as Christians should be very clear that we were created, designed for a purpose.
[00:26:16]  Now, why is that important?
[00:26:18]  Well, I believe if a, you know, if you even entertain the idea that we're an accident of 500 million years of evolution, well, then you just look at like, well, it's just a random combination that allowed us to get here.
[00:26:30]  Now, some people have the Christian-endorsed view of evolution.
[00:26:32]  That's fine.
[00:26:32]  I'm not here to talk about that stuff.
[00:26:34]  There's some phenomenal scholarship written on it.
[00:26:36]  I do encourage you guys to read a book called Darwin's Doubt that talks about the mathematical improbability of Charles Darwin and how he basically shouldn't be taken seriously at all.
[00:26:44]  But that's not the thrust of my speech tonight.
[00:26:46]  I'm not.
[00:26:46]  No, and you should check it out.
[00:26:48]  Dr. Stephen Meyer wrote an entire book debunking Charles Darwin.
[00:26:52]  Some of the great mathematicians of our time have shown the mathematical improbability.
[00:26:56]  It's much more probable to believe in an intelligent designer than to believe in the roll of the dice that could give us consciousness and sight, smell, the ability to reason, all of that.
[00:27:04]  But the point is this: what is a human being?
[00:27:06]  If you believe a human being is specially designed for a purpose, then you treat that human being differently.
[00:27:11]  Then all of a sudden, power is not the most important thing.
[00:27:13]  Human dignity and rights are far more important than that.
[00:27:16]  And then finally, it's another important question, which a leftist or a progressive or a secularist can't answer this, and they can, but when they do, of course, they mess it up, which is, do you believe human beings are naturally good?
[00:27:27]  And a Christian should be able to answer that immediately.
[00:27:29]  Of course not.
[00:27:30]  Didn't take long for us to mess that up.
[00:27:32]  Now, if you believe human beings are naturally good, then you have to explain all the evil in the world.
[00:27:37]  And they explain it away not by human beings, but by saying it's the system that creates evil.
[00:27:42]  And that's a very profound difference.
[00:27:44]  You see, we as Christians believe that we're the problem and that we have to improve our behavior and our actions and hopefully come more in alignment to glorify God.
[00:27:54]  And only Jesus Christ can get us eventually to God.
[00:27:57]  And we didn't earn that.
[00:27:58]  We didn't do anything to deserve that.
[00:28:00]  It's a gift that has been given to us.
[00:28:03]  But a secularist would say, oh, no, no, you're perfect at birth.
[00:28:06]  As Jean-Jacques Rousseau would say, you know, all men are born free, but they spend the rest of their lives in chains.
[00:28:11]  It's a romantic view of human nature, but they say, oh, no, human beings are born perfect, but it's capitalism.
[00:28:18]  It is the patriarchy.
[00:28:20]  It is all these things that create bad behavior.
[00:28:22]  And if we crush those things, then we can live on some form of utopian heaven on earth.
[00:28:28]  The consequences of that are incredibly dangerous.
[00:28:30]  Do you believe people are naturally good or people are naturally not so good?
[00:28:33]  Or you could say even evil.
[00:28:34]  And then, and so the question is: how do the founding fathers view this?
[00:28:37]  And that's the system we all get to live in today.
[00:28:39]  And I really pray that we're able to revitalize that system.
[00:28:43]  The founders wrote very clearly in Federalist 51, men are not angels.
[00:28:47]  They knew men are broken from birth.
[00:28:50]  And so therefore, if you believe men are up to no good, then you've got to create a system where power is not concentrated.
[00:28:57]  So I ask all the time, I say, what is the worst thing that a human being can do?
[00:29:02]  What is the worst thing a human being can do?
[00:29:04]  And, you know, people would say, they'd say all sorts of graphic, awful things.
[00:29:07]  And I'd say, yeah, that's true.
[00:29:08]  You could murder, you could lie, you could steal, you could rape, you could pillage, you could plunder, you could do all that stuff.
[00:29:12]  What's even worse than that?
[00:29:14]  What if you have a government that does those things?
[00:29:16]  Because it's not just one person doing it, it's institutionalized.
[00:29:19]  It's a Soviet Union.
[00:29:21]  You're not just killing one person, you're killing 100 million people.
[00:29:24]  So the founders knew that only God should have the power to make laws, to enforce laws, and to interpret laws.
[00:29:32]  Isaiah 33, 22, God is the lawgiver, the judge, and the administrator.
[00:29:36]  Paraphrasing.
[00:29:37]  And so they had to break those into three different branches.
[00:29:40]  They knew what Lord Acton said, that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
[00:29:44]  And so that is a moral claim.
[00:29:45]  It's a moral claim that if government gets too big, your freedoms get infringed upon.
[00:29:49]  If you think human beings are naturally good, then why wouldn't you make government big enough to get rid of what you think is evil?
[00:29:56]  But if you think human beings are the problem, well, then you got to do everything you possibly can to make sure human beings don't get too much power and they terrorize their fellow men.
[00:30:03]  It's one of the most important questions you can ask in modern society.
[00:30:06]  Where does that all come down to?
[00:30:08]  Boy, those questions all have biblical answers.
[00:30:11]  That's why I'm always telling pastors and Christians, you better lean in and speak out.
[00:30:14]  Those are not political questions.
[00:30:15]  Those are biblical questions.
[00:30:17]  That's all that's unfolding today on the news.
[00:30:19]  Do you think human beings are naturally good?
[00:30:21]  What is a human being?
[00:30:22]  When does life begin?
[00:30:23]  God created man and woman.
[00:30:25]  These all now are considered to be political issues.
[00:30:26]  No, no, no, they're not.
[00:30:28]  These are things that are answered so clearly in the word of God.
[00:30:32]  So if you're a Christian out there, I just want to encourage you to speak out more boldly and clearly on this.

=== Abortion as a Moral Question (09:04) ===

[00:30:36]  There is no debate or argument.
[00:30:37]  Now, if you can want to come up to the line and tell me the Bible endorses transgenderism, we'll have a lot of fun because I don't know what that's all about.
[00:30:44]  But you could have very understandable questions on certain topics from the Christian perspective, and we can interface and dialogue on that.
[00:30:52]  The Bible is very clear.
[00:30:53]  It's very clear about how it respects power.
[00:30:55]  First and foremost, the ultimate power is God, not here on earth.
[00:30:58]  Founding fathers knew that.
[00:31:00]  They wrote it so clearly.
[00:31:00]  God is mentioned four times in the Declaration of Independence.
[00:31:03]  They swore everything under divine providence.
[00:31:06]  When they wrote in the Declaration of Independence, by the way, was the outgrowth, was the last chapter in a Christian revival in America, something we don't teach our kids well enough in our nation, was the black robe regiment of Jonathan Edwards and John Whitfield, George Whitfield, I'm sorry, and Jonathan Mayhew, speaking the word of God over 35,000 outdoor sermons that were given on the Eastern seaboard.
[00:31:27]  All of that preaching, all of that teaching then resulted in a population that was finally ready for liberty.
[00:31:34]  And liberty is not man's idea.
[00:31:35]  It's God's idea.
[00:31:36]  And liberty is not doing whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it.
[00:31:39]  Liberty is not going to be able to do heroin on the side of the street.
[00:31:41]  That's licentiousness.
[00:31:43]  Big difference.
[00:31:44]  Liberty is being able to have the ability to do the right thing.
[00:31:48]  It's a big difference.
[00:31:50]  Liberty is pursuing virtue.
[00:31:51]  And you might say, well, how do you know what is virtuous?
[00:31:54]  This is where we as Christians have the answer very clearly.
[00:31:56]  It all comes back to the irrefutable standard.
[00:31:59]  Now, this speech applies to people that are not Christians as well.
[00:32:01]  But being here at a Christian university, I just want to implore you, I want to encourage you to lean in on these topics and this discussion.
[00:32:08]  If you do not have truth in your society, all that comes out of that is power.
[00:32:13]  That's it.
[00:32:14]  And that's exactly what the postmodernist, the deconstructionist, the leftists, the talatrans, whatever category you want to use, all they have is power because they don't believe that there is truth.
[00:32:21]  They believe it's my truth, bunch of garbage.
[00:32:23]  They believe that it is my personal experience instead of believing that there is a truth and a way and a specific way to be able to organize society around that.
[00:32:33]  So in that closing, we as Christians, I think, are going to be called to do more.
[00:32:35]  Jeremiah 29:7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
[00:32:41]  Zechariah 8:16 through 17, care about the justice and the well-being of the business and the city of the city within your gates, basically.
[00:32:49]  The city within your gates, what is happening in your community.
[00:32:52]  I'm paraphrasing that scripture in particular.
[00:32:54]  Daniel fasted and prayed for his nation.
[00:32:55]  Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, all cared about what secular government was doing for God's chosen purpose.
[00:33:01]  Apathy and cynicism are not acceptable for Christians in modern America today.
[00:33:05]  And I will close on that.
[00:33:06]  Let's do some questions.
[00:33:07]  Thank you guys.
[00:33:13]  You guys can form a line here.
[00:33:15]  And if you disagree, you're welcome to go to the front.
[00:33:18]  And by the way, if someone is, it's obviously a majority conservative audience here.
[00:33:24]  This is important.
[00:33:25]  The media never reports on this, by the way.
[00:33:28]  No, this is important.
[00:33:29]  If a liberal comes up, give them the opportunity to answer, ask their question.
[00:33:33]  No ridicule or mockery.
[00:33:35]  We're going to give them the respect that generally they never give me or us, okay?
[00:33:39]  I said generally.
[00:33:40]  I said generally, okay?
[00:33:43]  But no, don't interrupt them or heckle them.
[00:33:46]  It takes courage to come up and ask a question in a room of people that you don't agree with.
[00:33:50]  Okay, let's do a question.
[00:33:51]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:33:52]  Thank you for your time here tonight.
[00:33:55]  I just wanted to congratulate you as being a father.
[00:33:59]  And I wanted to.
[00:34:00]  Thank you.
[00:34:04]  And I wanted to ask, how has your life been different?
[00:34:07]  And have you faced any challenges?
[00:34:10]  Wow.
[00:34:11]  Well, look, here's the best way I can explain it.
[00:34:13]  You know, kind of like the Old Testament and the New Testament, it's that big of a deal.
[00:34:17]  It's like everything changes.
[00:34:18]  And for other parents out there, you know, someone said something to me.
[00:34:22]  They said, you know, you finally share a title with God.
[00:34:24]  I said, what's that?
[00:34:25]  You're both fathers.
[00:34:26]  I said, that's really very deep.
[00:34:27]  You think about that.
[00:34:29]  And it's true.
[00:34:30]  Yeah, it still is changing me.
[00:34:33]  It's not like a thing that gets changed immediately.
[00:34:36]  But I'll be honest, part of it, boy, does it animate me to want to fight harder?
[00:34:41]  Because, you know, I really, look, I'm going to generalize this.
[00:34:47]  There's plenty of good people without children, and there's plenty of bad people without children.
[00:34:52]  Okay, so that's fine.
[00:34:53]  But I generally believe that if more people in our leadership class in America had children earlier, America would be a much freer country.
[00:35:01]  I really believe that.
[00:35:04]  I could go into this in great detail, but it anchors you.
[00:35:08]  It's very real.
[00:35:09]  You know, we live in kind of this very disturbing moment where kind of fictional narratives reign over kind of reality.
[00:35:18]  Having a child is very real.
[00:35:21]  You don't get to live in this kind of postmodern argument of, well, I define my own existence and my own gender.
[00:35:29]  It's like, no, actually, it's very, very real.
[00:35:32]  And it rejects all this kind of nonsensical abstractions and it anchors you in a way that is very, very profound.
[00:35:38]  So I encourage, and I say this with no sarcasm, I encourage young people to get married very early and stay very loyally married to that person and have lots of children, to reject hookup culture and all that nonsense that is pervading our society.
[00:35:55]  And so, yeah, I could go further.
[00:35:59]  And just for men, you know, women email us all the time.
[00:36:03]  They say they can't find husbands and all that.
[00:36:05]  We get that all the time.
[00:36:06]  So I'll just give some advice.
[00:36:07]  No, I'll give some advice to men about the two things that they say are missing with young men in America.
[00:36:11]  I know you didn't ask about this, but I don't care.
[00:36:14]  So self-control is number one.
[00:36:18]  Young ladies would probably agree.
[00:36:19]  And then number two, they're not responsible for anything.
[00:36:22]  Responsibility is considered to be the most attractive quality in men because it's so lacking in America today.
[00:36:28]  So if you're looking for a wife or vice versa, I'll let my wife give the young ladies' advice.
[00:36:33]  I'm not even going to try to go there.
[00:36:34]  But young men, we have a men's summit for this exact reason now at Turning Point USA.
[00:36:38]  So God bless you.
[00:36:39]  Thank you.
[00:36:46]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:36:46]  I just want to say thank you for being here tonight.
[00:36:49]  And then my question is: there have been some pro-abortion posters put up around campus by Planned Parenthood advertising door-knocking jobs.
[00:36:55]  As a student body who is mostly conservative, how does Planned Parenthood get away with this?
[00:37:00]  And how can we educate our peers?
[00:37:02]  Yeah, how do they get away with it?
[00:37:05]  Yeah, I mean, guess, yeah, you guys are a Christian school.
[00:37:08]  I mean, I would be, so let's pretend I was in charge of this school.
[00:37:10]  I wouldn't allow Planned Parenthood to put up posters at GCU.
[00:37:13]  I just wouldn't allow it.
[00:37:14]  Now, you say, okay, Charlie, you know, aren't you for freedom of speech and all of that?
[00:37:18]  Yeah, look, you're a Christian school.
[00:37:19]  Is it in alignment with your values?
[00:37:21]  No.
[00:37:22]  And also, I don't think advertising for the butchery of children is necessarily the speech that I'm going to go to the wall for.
[00:37:30]  But if you have that opinion, we could dialogue about it.
[00:37:32]  Life begins at conception.
[00:37:34]  It's very clear.
[00:37:34]  It's not your DNA.
[00:37:36]  It's not your choice.
[00:37:37]  Abortion is kind of in vogue right now.
[00:37:39]  It's kind of something that everyone wants to talk about.
[00:37:42]  I've said for quite a while that the great, let's just say, the pro-life community has to continue to step up to the bat to make it easier for people to be able to have children in this country, including through some public policy measures.
[00:37:55]  But I just, I always cringe, and it really makes me sad when I have to hear the term unwanted pregnancy.
[00:38:01]  I just, what a, that's a morally troubling statement, isn't it?
[00:38:06]  Unwanted?
[00:38:07]  Unwanted by whom?
[00:38:09]  By the creator?
[00:38:10]  Oh, no, no.
[00:38:11]  Creator already loves that being and wants that being to thrive and survive and flourish and breathe and be able to be out in the world.
[00:38:17]  Unwanted by the mother in that particular moment, maybe, is, and I'm not going to get deep into why that might be the matter.
[00:38:24]  It might be a lack of explanation of what that being actually is.
[00:38:27]  But look, we need to better educate about this.
[00:38:29]  I'll be very honest.
[00:38:30]  It's a slaughter in our country.
[00:38:32]  It's a million babies every single year.
[00:38:35]  It happens.
[00:38:35]  There's 3,000 abortions a day in our country.
[00:38:38]  And a vast, vast majority of them are abortions of convenience and choice.
[00:38:41]  They're not because of rape, incest, or even life of the mother, which is incredibly, incredibly, incredibly rare.
[00:38:46]  But let's pretend we just, you know, said, okay, you can have abortion for those three categories.
[00:38:50]  Well, then you're talking about 99.2% of all abortions that are part of that 1 million category that are abortions at convenience.
[00:38:57]  So look, this is a question of a morals of a society.
[00:39:00]  Why is abortion uncomfortable for some people to talk about?
[00:39:03]  Well, it's because it happens in closed rooms and it doesn't really feel personal because it's private.
[00:39:10]  Well, we know it's happening.
[00:39:11]  Just because you don't see it every single day, it should still really bother you.
[00:39:15]  And boy, if we as Christians put up with it, I don't know what to tell you.
[00:39:18]  It's very, very clear in the scriptures when life begins.
[00:39:21]  And so yeah, look, I could go on about that.
[00:39:24]  But Planned Parenthood has done more destruction for these communities than almost any other organization.
[00:39:30]  We should defund Planned Parenthood, by the way.
[00:39:32]  They shouldn't receive a taxpayer dollar.
[00:39:34]  Thank you.
[00:39:35]  Appreciate it.
[00:39:38]  That's the outfit I was talking about, by the way.

=== Safeguards for Natural Law (14:14) ===

[00:39:40]  Look at that.
[00:39:44]  Thank you.
[00:39:46]  Well, thank you so much for coming.
[00:39:48]  I got to say, I didn't know what to really think you beforehand, before this speech.
[00:39:53]  I can say I'm now definitely a fan.
[00:39:56]  Thank you.
[00:39:56]  My sister got me interested in your speeches and in your stuff like that.
[00:40:01]  She couldn't make it tonight.
[00:40:02]  She's in California right now.
[00:40:04]  She's serving our country in the Air Force.
[00:40:06]  And yeah, definitely.
[00:40:11]  And she would love for you to sign this hat.
[00:40:13]  But onto my question.
[00:40:14]  Sorry.
[00:40:15]  Just wanted to plug that in there.
[00:40:18]  So I loved what you said about the Founding Fathers tonight.
[00:40:20]  Obviously, that's why I wear this attire.
[00:40:25]  So my question is: if the Founding Fathers could somehow see America in 2022, what is one thing you think they'd be proud of that we've overcome or that we've maintained?
[00:40:34]  And what is one thing you think they'd be disappointed in?
[00:40:37]  It's a very, very profound question, and I'd be happy to sign that.
[00:40:40]  Disappointed in, almost all of it.
[00:40:43]  So, but yeah, look, I think what they would be most surprised, let me start with this.
[00:40:48]  The thing that, and here we are kind of playing Monday morning quarterback of the great designers of the longest-lasting constitutional republic and freest society in the history of the world.
[00:40:57]  So, you know, just forbid me from doing this, but I think they would, I think it's very well agreed upon is the creation of this fourth branch of government, is this unelected administrative state that came up in the Woodrow Wilson presidency of the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Justice, the EPA, this unaccountable, unelected fourth branch of government that has unlimited amounts of power, that kind of operates in total violation to the promises, the moral claims of the U.S. Constitution, the moral claims of consent of the government.
[00:41:25]  Where do they get their consent from?
[00:41:27]  They just operate on their own.
[00:41:28]  They always exist.
[00:41:29]  The machinery grinds on.
[00:41:31]  Separation of powers, not really, because they're almost above the three branches of government.
[00:41:35]  The fourth branch of government spies on presidents, spies on members of Congress, right?
[00:41:39]  I mean, it leaks documents of IRS, you know, documents of sitting president.
[00:41:45]  They're almost more powerful.
[00:41:46]  They're almost the sovereign.
[00:41:47]  And then finally, the thing that really troubles me the most about the fourth branch of government is another one of the claims that Madison and Hamilton and Jay made in the Federalist Papers: checks and balances.
[00:41:57]  What is the check right now against this fourth branch of government?
[00:42:01]  Almost nothing.
[00:42:02]  It's as if now the real power is in the inner workings of these bureaucracies.
[00:42:07]  So I think the founding fathers would just be flabbergasted about how we allowed that to happen and then how we were able to, like, why didn't we do something about that earlier?
[00:42:16]  100 years.
[00:42:17]  Or maybe why they didn't put more safeguards in place for there.
[00:42:20]  But yeah, let me say the one thing I think they would be really thrilled about or excited about.
[00:42:24]  I think they would be shocked at how long the Constitution stood.
[00:42:29]  And not because they didn't value their work.
[00:42:32]  It's just never before has a small R Republican form of government stood so long.
[00:42:37]  They wrote about this in the Federalist Papers, and Thomas Jefferson basically wrote this in so many ways.
[00:42:42]  He's totally misquoted and misunderstood, where people say, oh, yeah, he wanted the revolution every couple years.
[00:42:46]  No, he didn't want that.
[00:42:47]  What he was saying is this form of government has a tendency not to last.
[00:42:52]  The fact we still have the same United States Constitution that we had in 1787 and 1791 at both ratification of the Bill of Rights and the usual Constitution is unbelievable.
[00:43:01]  That should make everyone pause and say why.
[00:43:04]  It's because the Constitution was not written for the times.
[00:43:07]  It was written to stand the test of time.
[00:43:09]  Because it makes very clear arguments on morality and human behavior.
[00:43:17]  This is something that differentiates me from the progressives.
[00:43:21]  John Dewey, who's kind of the father of public education in America, said it's a new age.
[00:43:26]  We have machines and airplanes and we have gas-powered engines.
[00:43:30]  Humanity is entering a new era.
[00:43:33]  Whereas a conservative say, whoa, whoa, whoa, just because you have Twitter and you can fly across the country doesn't mean human beings radically improve.
[00:43:41]  We're just as selfish and greedy and broken as we were, regardless of the technology we have.
[00:43:46]  In fact, the technology only amplifies how broken we actually are.
[00:43:50]  It only makes evil easier.
[00:43:53]  And so I think without belaboring the point, the founders, I think, would actually be stunned at how much we have screwed up and how much of a chance we still have to revive it.
[00:44:06]  And so I think that should give you a lot of hope.
[00:44:08]  It really does.
[00:44:09]  I by no means think America is past the point of no return.
[00:44:13]  And honestly, a lot of it is thanks to the founders.
[00:44:15]  I mean, they gave us so many opportunities, safeguards.
[00:44:18]  And by the way, the left always wants to get rid of those safeguards.
[00:44:21]  Abolish the Electoral College.
[00:44:23]  Abolish the fact that Nebraska has senators.
[00:44:25]  Abolish the filibuster.
[00:44:26]  Like, whoa.
[00:44:27]  No, that's really a thing, right?
[00:44:28]  They want to combine all the great plain states into one big state because they say it should be done on population.
[00:44:33]  Of course, not understanding that the states created the federal government.
[00:44:36]  The federal government didn't create the states.
[00:44:37]  Big difference.
[00:44:38]  That local is better over the central or the supreme.
[00:44:41]  Okay.
[00:44:42]  So, but I just want to just reinforce: I mean, I love your fascination with the American founders.
[00:44:47]  I wish that I pray for a revival in our nation where people really appreciate how special they were.
[00:44:54]  55 out of 56 of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church-attending Christians.
[00:44:59]  John Adams spoke fluent Hebrew.
[00:45:01]  This is how you know how based the founding fathers were, okay?
[00:45:05]  They put Leviticus on the liberty bell, okay?
[00:45:08]  Leviticus, not the book of John, not Psalms, Leviticus, okay?
[00:45:13]  Let liberty reign throughout the land of which you are in.
[00:45:16]  So I think a constitutional reset is sorely needed in our country.
[00:45:20]  God bless you, man.
[00:45:20]  Thank you.
[00:45:33]  All right.
[00:45:37]  Hey, Charlie.
[00:45:39]  I asked the same question back like two years ago in Bismarck went to North Dakota.
[00:45:43]  And I think my aunt would kind of kill me if I didn't say hi for Amber Vibetto.
[00:45:49]  And it was.
[00:45:51]  I'm trying to remember the last time I was in Bismarck, but okay.
[00:45:54]  Not a lot of people go there.
[00:45:56]  You know what?
[00:45:57]  I do remember.
[00:45:57]  Okay, yeah, got it.
[00:46:00]  It's how will abortion affect our youth, or not our youth, but my generation.
[00:46:06]  And now that we kind of have all this stuff going on in the Supreme Court with Roe v. Wade, how would you answer that question now as to where, like, two years ago?
[00:46:16]  Yeah, well, praise God first and foremost that Roe v. Wade was overturned.
[00:46:19]  It was an awful judicial decision.
[00:46:21]  Awful.
[00:46:23]  And if a liberal, not a leftist, is being honest, they would even agree it was awful judicial interpretation.
[00:46:34]  It was a total drive-by shooting of the U.S. Constitution.
[00:46:36]  It was.
[00:46:37]  And it was allowed to stay for far too long.
[00:46:39]  And actually, if the left was being honest, of which they're not about this topic, the decision that was administered down was actually agnostic on the issue of abortion itself.
[00:46:50]  The court did not rule on whether abortion was right or wrong.
[00:46:53]  It simply said it should be left to the states.
[00:46:56]  Now, I wish they would have ruled on it being right or wrong, obviously, because it's very clear, but that's besides the point.
[00:47:02]  Okay, so how does abortion impact your generation?
[00:47:05]  Well, it already is.
[00:47:06]  I mean, you know, imagine if you had a million more people in your generation, you know, the younger generation every single year.
[00:47:11]  Maybe you wouldn't need this relaxed immigration policies and all these other things.
[00:47:17]  You know, I you look at certain communities, especially the black community in this country, the black birth rate has been going down significantly the last 40 years, where in certain communities the abortion rate is actually greater than the birth rate in certain communities.
[00:47:30]  So it definitely impacts that.
[00:47:31]  But let me kind of talk more morally, if you will.
[00:47:33]  By the way, the U.S. birth rate has fallen 20% by 2007.
[00:47:38]  It's remarkable.
[00:47:39]  Let me just talk more morally, though.
[00:47:40]  If a country or a nation, a civilization, or a people put up with a million souls basically being terminated every single year, then what else are we going to put up with?
[00:47:50]  The answer is quite a lot.
[00:47:52]  And I'm not, you shouldn't be shocked.
[00:47:54]  The very same nation that puts up with that puts up with the medical mutilation of children at alleged children's hospitals.
[00:48:02]  It's a very simple moral question, which again, which is why I encourage Christians to speak out about this.
[00:48:07]  What do you do when you're strong?
[00:48:10]  Do you use that strength to protect the weak, or do you try to get more strength yourself and exploit people that aren't as strong as you?
[00:48:16]  It's a very simple moral question.
[00:48:19]  And biblical Christianity tells us to protect those that can't protect themselves.
[00:48:22]  But if you don't believe in that thing, you don't believe in an absolute standard or objective in that way, why not use your strength to crush the weak?
[00:48:30]  Most countries do that, by the way.
[00:48:32]  Most countries have done that.
[00:48:33]  It's all about power, right?
[00:48:34]  And by the way, if you don't believe that every being is an image-bearer, then it's even easier to justify that.
[00:48:40]  As Joseph Stalin would say, one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.
[00:48:44]  And he was good at racking up statistics.
[00:48:47]  Anywhere between 40 to 50 million people intentionally murdered under his regime, Mao Zedong, anyway, between 30 to 40 million people.
[00:48:53]  And by the way, both Stalin and Mao were known for Mao, more than Stalin, were known for their zealous anti-religiosity.
[00:49:03]  I mean, you cannot have a widespread Marxist regime and a vibrant church that is preaching the word of God.
[00:49:10]  They cannot exist.
[00:49:11]  So one has to go or the other.
[00:49:12]  You have to take over the church.
[00:49:14]  You have to dilute the preaching.
[00:49:15]  One has to happen or the other.
[00:49:16]  And so that's exactly why, I mean, Mao all but basically outlawed religious expression.
[00:49:20]  It wasn't Christianity.
[00:49:22]  It was just basically Taoist Confucian teaching that he utilized for his own purpose and also basically absorbed it.
[00:49:28]  So how does it impact our country?
[00:49:29]  It impacts our country in every way possible.
[00:49:32]  But look, it's just a matter of what is right and what is real and what is true.
[00:49:38]  And I know for me personally, I'm going to do everything I possibly can to protect those that can't protect themselves.
[00:49:43]  Thank you.
[00:49:50]  Hello, Charlie.
[00:49:51]  My question is: what are your thoughts on a complete immigration moratorium?
[00:49:55]  Yeah, I mean, right now, I think it's a great idea, especially with where unemployment is right now.
[00:50:00]  Look, I think immigration should always be modified, and let's just say, not modified, immigration policy should be adjusted towards the current circumstances that we're living through, right?
[00:50:10]  So here's my main argument: that U.S. governmental policy should always serve the citizen first.
[00:50:16]  Always serve the citizen.
[00:50:18]  All of you right now are entering into a job market.
[00:50:20]  You're entering into a set of circumstances where you are probably going to have student loan debt, where you probably inflation is absolutely crushing younger people right now.
[00:50:31]  I believe there is a moral social contract argument to make that American college graduates should be given preferences and hirings over foreign students.
[00:50:41]  And that is a moral question, right?
[00:50:42]  So then people say, well, Charlie, how is that fair?
[00:50:45]  Of course it's fair.
[00:50:46]  It's fair in the question of whose government is it?
[00:50:48]  The government of the American people should first and foremost serve the American people.
[00:50:52]  Once you're able to have excesses beyond your limitations, then we could talk about how generous we want to be.
[00:50:57]  But we right now are a nation $31 trillion in debt with the most depressed, suicidal, alcohol-addicted, psychiatric, drug-added generation in history.
[00:51:05]  That generation needs a lot of help right now, you guys.
[00:51:08]  And I don't mean that in a negative way or a condescending way.
[00:51:10]  And so immigration policy should be adjusted in that way.
[00:51:13]  Not to mention, we had 5 million people legally enter into our country this last year.
[00:51:18]  Let's press the pause.
[00:51:19]  Let's allow that assimilation to happen, if at all, because it certainly isn't happening quick enough.
[00:51:25]  So I fully support it.
[00:51:26]  I think in the future that could be adjusted or changed, but this is what prudence is all about, which is what makes a conservative different than an ideological person.
[00:51:34]  You look around, you see what's happening, and you adjust policy based on the time, the circumstances, and your desired goal and objective.
[00:51:40]  Thank you.
[00:51:41]  Appreciate it.
[00:51:47]  Hi there, Charlie.
[00:51:48]  Nice to meet you.
[00:51:50]  Process, I grew up, never really had religion in my life, but somehow was, I always remained conservative.
[00:51:58]  The real question being, in this environment, trying to get into politics, being very open-minded, and actually enjoying learning and growing with my knowledge of the Bible and Christianity.
[00:52:10]  As an outsider, I feel like in conservatism and I want to get into politics.
[00:52:15]  How am I supposed to meld the two while not truly being a believer?
[00:52:19]  Well, first of all, thank you for being here.
[00:52:20]  It's awesome.
[00:52:22]  And yeah, of course there's a place for people that aren't believers in the conservative movement.
[00:52:26]  Of course there is.
[00:52:26]  It's about building a coalition for liberty and things that we agree on.
[00:52:31]  And I will always say though that having biblical Christianity an objective standard is of which the entire, there we go again, the entire foundation that the movement is built upon, I would venture a guess that if you really get into the weeds of our movement over a period of time, I think you will become a believer if you remain open-minded, especially if you read the word and you pray and you ask God to come into your life because reading of the word never turns up void ever.
[00:53:00]  So, but look, I get this question a lot.
[00:53:02]  I want to be very, very clear that as long as you believe in liberty, you believe in what I talked about here, and you believe in the natural law, which I would probably guess that you probably believe in the natural law.
[00:53:12]  I believe the natural law was written by somebody, right?
[00:53:14]  Some people, just not trying to suppose, but someone with a secular view would say the natural law was just kind of, you know, it just sprung into, or we don't know.
[00:53:23]  Let's just put it.
[00:53:23]  I think that's fair.
[00:53:24]  Then welcome aboard, right?
[00:53:27]  Because we're here as a way to build a civil government and a free society.
[00:53:33]  We believe that those origins and those roots unquestionably come from biblical Christianity.
[00:53:37]  But if you want to lock arms with me to make sure that we no longer have a million abortions every single year, or you want to lock arms with me to make sure that kids are not medically mutilated for profit, then I'll be more willing to march in the streets with you alongside most past more so than most pastors in this country because most pastors are totally silent on those issues.

=== Conservatives Join the Muscular Class (04:58) ===

[00:53:54]  And so I'm not here to say that you have your metaphysics perfectly configured, right?
[00:53:59]  I wouldn't say that.
[00:54:00]  I believe there's only one way, one truth, and one, you know, obviously path.
[00:54:04]  But I will say, though, that I'm a behaviorist when it comes to some of these things.
[00:54:09]  What do you do?
[00:54:10]  And I know some atheists that don't believe a thing of the Christian worldview that I have, but they are more outspoken about doing good and confronting evil than a lot of Christians that I know.
[00:54:22]  And I say, welcome aboard.
[00:54:24]  I truly do.
[00:54:24]  Thank you.
[00:54:31]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:54:32]  Thanks for taking the time to come out and speak tonight.
[00:54:34]  I really enjoyed listening to you.
[00:54:37]  My question is: for 2024, would you rather have the nominee be Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump and why?
[00:54:44]  I get this question all the time.
[00:54:46]  Okay, so first I have to say, you know, I will speak on behalf of myself personally for Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA, which focuses obviously on everything we talked about tonight, worldview principles, all that stuff.
[00:54:57]  So kind of with that proper disclaimer, I've answered this question multiple times before, and I will answer it again.
[00:55:03]  I'm a loyal guy.
[00:55:04]  I said if Trump is going to run again, I will totally have his back 100%.
[00:55:08]  He runs in 2024.
[00:55:10]  I refuse to be the type of guy that says one thing and does another when it comes to this and be wishy-washy on that.
[00:55:15]  With that being said, it's very, very possible.
[00:55:18]  It's possible that Governor DeSantis might be a once-in-a-generation type leader.
[00:55:23]  He has been courageous and wise and strong, magnanimous, and effective at every single turn.
[00:55:28]  But here's what it distills down to for me: where I think Ron DeSantis would be a good president.
[00:55:36]  I know Donald Trump was a great president.
[00:55:38]  And that's what I will yield back to.
[00:55:41]  Thank you.
[00:55:42]  I appreciate it.
[00:55:47]  Hey, Charlie, maybe you remember me last year from the University of Arizona as the Latinos for Trump guy.
[00:55:52]  Yes, yes, sure.
[00:55:53]  And now the Latinos for Kerry Lake has also voted for Kerry Lake.
[00:55:58]  So I was wondering, my question is this: Given the fact that I'm pretty sure you're more aware than anybody else that the Latino community really is moving to the right, and that I'm pretty sure we're going to surprise the Democrats this upcoming midterms election, that we're going to completely go to the right.
[00:56:11]  But how do you think that me as a young Latino conservative, I can continue to educate and, you know, I guess for lack of a better way of putting it, kind of like, you know, really get into their mind to show that the Republican or the conservative movement is more beneficial to us Latinos than Democrats.
[00:56:27]  What do you think I get?
[00:56:28]  So, first of all, God bless you.
[00:56:29]  I do remember you.
[00:56:29]  I love the enthusiasm.
[00:56:31]  And so, very simple.
[00:56:33]  Every single day, remind the Latino and Hispanic community that it is white, woke liberals that want to teach your children that men can become pregnant.
[00:56:43]  Every single day.
[00:56:46]  Every single day.
[00:56:47]  You should say, by the way, one of the reasons why the Latino-Hispanic community is moving to the conservative direction is because they were conservative all along.
[00:56:55]  And now that this insane postmodern deconstructionist policy of there's unlimited amounts of genders, men can become pregnant.
[00:57:04]  We could have abortion up until the time of termination, that we're not going to teach men or female, but we're just going to say you could be whatever you want to be.
[00:57:13]  It turns out that in Latino and Hispanic households, not only is that not popular, that is a threat to their way of life.
[00:57:21]  That is hostile.
[00:57:23]  Where all of a sudden they say, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that my eight-year-old is not taught this sort of gender garbage and perversion.
[00:57:30]  And so I would frame it.
[00:57:32]  And again, who am I to say?
[00:57:33]  I mean, you're part of the Latino community, but at least I look at the data and I talk to a lot of people on our radio program and our podcast.
[00:57:39]  I would frame it as an issue of imperialism.
[00:57:41]  I would say that you have white, woke people that do not live here, that do not care about you, that are invading your cultures and your community, your culture, and your community, and telling you things that are not true, using force to make your kids believe perverse queer gender theory and to believe in, quite honestly, the rejection of traditional conservative Hispanic values.
[00:58:02]  And finally, I would just kind of lean on the fact that conservatives are becoming the kind of movement of the muscular class, people that shower before work and shower after work, people that work at their hands, and not just people that are in the Zoom and Skype class in our country.
[00:58:16]  No offense, if you're part of that, that's fine.
[00:58:18]  But it's the muscular class that kept our country going in the midst of the Chinese Fauci coronavirus.
[00:58:23]  It was the muscular class that allowed things to continue.
[00:58:26]  And so lean in on that.
[00:58:28]  I think social conservatism is the key to winning over the Latino and Hispanic community in the future.
[00:58:36]  We should lean in on that.
[00:58:37]  God bless you, men.
[00:58:38]  Thank you.
[00:58:38]  Latinos for turning right.
[00:58:44]  Hey, Charlie.
[00:58:45]  So one thing that I find separates a lot of conservatives is the topic of foreign policy, mainly interventionism.

=== Imperialism vs American Homeland (03:41) ===

[00:58:53]  When I say interventionism, I don't mean invading Iraq every other weekend.
[00:58:56]  I mean there's a conflict, let's say, the one in the Caucasus, where Artsakh was invaded by Azerbaijan and the U.S. did next to nothing.
[00:59:05]  I want to know what your position of that is.
[00:59:08]  Do we take a more interventionist stance of sanctions or just having troops on the ground to scrape them off?
[00:59:13]  Or do we do nothing and just hope it goes well?
[00:59:16]  Okay, thank you for the question.
[00:59:18]  Pretty well documented my views on this stuff.
[00:59:21]  I always want to serve the American homeland.
[00:59:23]  All foreign policy should point back to what is best for the American people.
[00:59:26]  And I have been so outspoken, just simply asking a series of questions, which gets me accused of being a Kremlin agent, despite the fact I say Putin's a thug and a war criminal never should have invaded Ukraine.
[00:59:36]  I just ask some very simple questions, which is what does success look like in Ukraine?
[00:59:40]  And I've asked lawmaker after lawmaker, and I cannot get a serious, I cannot get answered.
[00:59:45]  They say, well, the defeat of Putin.
[00:59:46]  Oh, really?
[00:59:46]  You think that's going to happen?
[00:59:48]  You think that you're going to displace Putin with $70 billion?
[00:59:50]  Another question.
[00:59:51]  To what cost and to what end are you willing to spend?
[00:59:53]  So we spent $70 billion, of which I get so kind of perplexed, like, wow, we spent $70 billion defending Ukraine's border, but we can't spend $70 billion or $7 billion or $700 million defending our own border with the illegal invasion happening in our country.
[01:00:08]  Now, a response that you might have, or other people say, Charlie, those are two different things.
[01:00:14]  Hold on.
[01:00:15]  To the urgency, the speed, the virtue signaling that was used by the American elite to try to care about Ukraine's border and not our own border, it's honestly perverted.
[01:00:24]  It is.
[01:00:25]  It's care much more about the foreign than the immediate, much more about the distant than the actual.
[01:00:30]  Okay, I have some other questions, though, too.
[01:00:32]  What is the latitude and longitude of which we're comfortable with success in Ukraine?
[01:00:36]  Because here's the reality of it.
[01:00:38]  Eastern Ukraine, they want to be part of Russia.
[01:00:40]  No one wants to say this out loud.
[01:00:42]  They voted this way.
[01:00:43]  They're ethnically Russian.
[01:00:44]  They speak Russian.
[01:00:45]  They used to be part of Russia.
[01:00:46]  Okay, why is that our business?
[01:00:48]  So they say, well, because Putin is going to march across Europe.
[01:00:51]  He can barely take Ukraine.
[01:00:54]  And I'm supposed to be worried he's going to march across Europe.
[01:00:57]  And they say, well, because we can't let him border a NATO country.
[01:00:59]  He already does.
[01:01:00]  There's a 1 million person military base in an area called Kolingrad Oblast, which currently borders Poland.
[01:01:06]  What other arguments do they use?
[01:01:07]  Well, we don't stop them there.
[01:01:08]  They're going to invade Cincinnati.
[01:01:10]  Not worried about that.
[01:01:12]  Russia can barely field their own military with a declining population, riots in the streets, mandatory conscription.
[01:01:18]  This is a family dispute between two thugs.
[01:01:21]  Not a fan of Zelensky either.
[01:01:23]  And I say that openly.
[01:01:24]  He's awful to his people.
[01:01:25]  And you could talk to anybody in that country.
[01:01:27]  They'll tell you about that.
[01:01:28]  But that does not mean Putin was morally right to invade the country.
[01:01:32]  But you have to understand something in Russian history.
[01:01:34]  Many people in Russian government, all they know is war.
[01:01:37]  They don't look at war the way the West does.
[01:01:39]  War is normalized in Russian history.
[01:01:42]  Russian leaders are judged by how they expand their lands.
[01:01:46]  And so the question is: how does that serve the American homeland?
[01:01:49]  And the answer is it doesn't.
[01:01:50]  So from the first standpoint, we should.
[01:01:52]  And you'll say, Charlie, does that mean you do nothing?
[01:01:54]  No.
[01:01:55]  You try to broker peace.
[01:01:57]  That's what a leader does.
[01:01:58]  You don't send missiles and tomahawks.
[01:02:00]  You go there and you say, there's a meeting immediately.
[01:02:02]  Okay, Zelensky, we put you in via our CIA, which we did.
[01:02:06]  He was not democratically, it was democratically elected.
[01:02:08]  We displaced the actual Democratic leader.
[01:02:10]  We go to Putin, we say, okay, you get to have fair and free elections, the eastern part of Ukraine.
[01:02:15]  If they want to be part of Russia, allow to self-select and sovereignty.
[01:02:19]  And 100,000 people's lives could have been saved if we had leadership in that regard.
[01:02:22]  And here's something we could all agree upon, but despite the interventionist.
[01:02:26]  If we would have allowed ourselves to have energy supremacy like we did under the prior administration, Putin never would have had the petro-dollar bill to do this in the first place.

=== Brokering Peace on Ukraine (04:12) ===

[01:02:34]  That we can all agree on.
[01:02:36]  So I just ask questions: how does it benefit America?
[01:02:42]  And I just get very angry when I have to be lectured about why it's our priority to go spend another $70 billion in Ukraine.
[01:02:51]  When I see kids that are going into debt to go pay rent, that could barely afford to go to school, kids that are addicted to psychiatric medication because we locked down our entire country.
[01:03:03]  I want our leaders to say, you know what?
[01:03:05]  It might be a great cause in Ukraine.
[01:03:07]  Let's do $70 billion to make sure this generation isn't bankrupt, homeless, and depressed.
[01:03:12]  I would love to hear a leader say that.
[01:03:14]  Thank you.
[01:03:22]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:03:23]  Thank you for being here tonight.
[01:03:25]  So, my question is coming from a perspective of a Christian that's very, very pro-life and cares very much about justice.
[01:03:32]  A topic I struggle with is the death penalty.
[01:03:35]  How should I, as a pro-lifer and a Christian, view death penalty as someone who also cares about justice, and it's a lot more difficult for me to defend a murderer or criminal versus an unborn innocent child?
[01:03:48]  That's a great question.
[01:03:49]  You and I both struggle with it.
[01:03:51]  I've been outspokenly against the death penalty in years past, but I got to be honest, I'm moving away from that position.
[01:03:55]  I'm not totally there yet.
[01:03:56]  So let me just kind of correct one thing that you said, which is not trying to, you know, kind of focus on it.
[01:04:03]  Executing a criminal is not murder.
[01:04:05]  Okay?
[01:04:06]  That's something different.
[01:04:07]  Okay.
[01:04:08]  Some would say that's justice.
[01:04:09]  Some would say that's the administration of the proper consequence of the rule of law.
[01:04:14]  Now, I'm not totally there.
[01:04:16]  Here's one of my big problems with the death penalty.
[01:04:17]  One of the reasons why I'm against it, probably, but I'm moving on it, is how many people we've wrongfully executed in the last 50 or 60 years.
[01:04:27]  It is the great argument against the death penalty.
[01:04:29]  A lot of people were wrongly executed based on bad evidence, and they were later shown to be exonerated or basically, here we go again, with exculpatory evidence, right?
[01:04:40]  So that's number one.
[01:04:42]  But I do want to say something.
[01:04:43]  I think the weakest argument that people that are, by the way, the death penalty is more expensive.
[01:04:48]  There's all these other different things, right?
[01:04:50]  Also, the belief that the state shouldn't have the power to execute its own citizens.
[01:04:54]  I resonate with that.
[01:04:55]  But I think the weakest argument for the against the death penalty, the weakest argument is they say, well, I don't want innocent life to be taken, and I don't want to have someone on death row to be murdered.
[01:05:07]  Okay, the innocent person in the womb wasn't like the chainsaw murderer or whatever reason they're up for death row, okay?
[01:05:15]  It's a totally different moral category.
[01:05:17]  The person who's on death row is probably there for a very, very good reason, right?
[01:05:22]  The person in the womb hasn't done anything to anybody whatsoever.
[01:05:25]  It is the definition of innocence, right?
[01:05:28]  They've done nothing but just existed in the womb.
[01:05:31]  So, but I want to be honest.
[01:05:32]  I struggle with it for the reasons of people that were wrongly accused, and then you can't reverse that, right?
[01:05:38]  Once they're dead, they're dead.
[01:05:40]  And that's wrong.
[01:05:40]  It's more expensive.
[01:05:42]  And I also really try to be principled on this idea that the government should not be able to have the power to take the life of its own citizens.
[01:05:49]  I do resonate with that argument.
[01:05:51]  But at the same time, I see some of the crimes committed by some of these people in our country, and I struggle with that too.
[01:05:58]  And I say, I'm supposed to now pay for meals for them for the rest of their life, really?
[01:06:02]  And so I'm right with you with struggling with it, but I definitely yield towards the direction of not having the death penalty currently.
[01:06:09]  But I have to say, one of the clearest moral thinkers on this is Dennis Prager.
[01:06:13]  He's definitely moved me a little bit.
[01:06:14]  He's been great.
[01:06:15]  Thank you.
[01:06:15]  God bless you.
[01:06:21]  Charlie, thank you for coming out here.
[01:06:23]  I wanted to continue with the foreign policy aspect.
[01:06:27]  Do you believe that NATO has a place in the 21st century and we should still be a part of it?
[01:06:32]  Probably not.
[01:06:33]  No, I'd say that NATO is basically the largest socialist subsidy experiment in the history of foreign policy.
[01:06:39]  Basically, NATO is us pumping in tens of billions of dollars.
[01:06:43]  So these major countries have to then go defend them.

=== Loving Enemies in War (03:46) ===

[01:06:46]  Like they're not defending themselves, right?
[01:06:50]  Why?
[01:06:50]  So let me just get this straight.
[01:06:52]  If Putin launches a missile to Poland right now and hits a restaurant, you might get drafted.
[01:06:57]  How is that in our national interest exactly?
[01:07:00]  I just ask a series of questions.
[01:07:01]  So I think Trump did the right thing to try to rearrange it.
[01:07:05]  I tend to believe that large, long-standing, massive multinational alliances, not a big fan of that.
[01:07:12]  But I'm open to different arguments on that.
[01:07:16]  But man, you want to talk about, you want to have your opinion shaken on NATO?
[01:07:20]  Go look at how they're imposing radical gender theory throughout all the militaries of Europe.
[01:07:27]  They fly the LGBT flag, all that stuff.
[01:07:31]  That's what NATO is.
[01:07:32]  You should go check it out.
[01:07:34]  But at the same time, I do believe that the West is deserving of protection.
[01:07:39]  But boy, large entanglements in some of these nations.
[01:07:42]  And there's a lot of members of NATO that are awfully questionable.
[01:07:45]  Turkey plays both sides of the ball.
[01:07:47]  Let's just put it that way.
[01:07:48]  God bless you.
[01:07:48]  Thank you.
[01:07:49]  Got to get to the next one.
[01:07:50]  Sorry.
[01:07:50]  Thank you.
[01:07:53]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:07:54]  Growing up as a conservative Christian who heavily believed in loving people for who they are instead of what they believed, in high school when people were starting to express themselves with their sexuality, I was heavily told I couldn't be an ally because of my views.
[01:08:08]  How would you respond to that?
[01:08:11]  So you were told by whom?
[01:08:14]  That was a belief in my family is just loving people for people for who they are.
[01:08:18]  Okay, got it.
[01:08:19]  So I just want to make sure I understand.
[01:08:21]  So your family believed, like, let's say a kid thinks he's a man when he's 16.
[01:08:28]  You should love them where they just can you.
[01:08:30]  No, like we love them for who they are and like where they're at in their life in the sense of it's not our place to judge other people.
[01:08:36]  Got it.
[01:08:37]  Okay.
[01:08:37]  So how do you respond as a Christian to that?
[01:08:41]  Okay, yeah.
[01:08:42]  So look, if someone is 17 years old and is suffering from gender dysphoria, right?
[01:08:46]  They're a man who thinks they're a woman or a woman who thinks they're a man, we could totally have compassion for that person.
[01:08:52]  But the loving thing to do to that person is make sure they get help.
[01:08:55]  The loving thing is not to all of a sudden justify medical mutilation, taking of Lupron, or other interventions that honestly show the continuation or the escalating interventions that would cause more suicide or more issues down the road.
[01:09:09]  And look, here's just one other thing.
[01:09:11]  You know, this is the tension that I think, you know, happens sometimes in Christianity where people say we must accept all people.
[01:09:17]  That is not true.
[01:09:19]  That is not biblical at all.
[01:09:21]  Now, we must stand on truth.
[01:09:22]  We must stand on the natural law.
[01:09:24]  We must have grace in all things.
[01:09:25]  But the Bible is very, very clear.
[01:09:27]  If you love God, you must hate what is evil.
[01:09:30]  That's a harsh teaching for some people.
[01:09:31]  It's Psalm 97, 10.
[01:09:33]  And so, look, I think that if someone is suffering from that condition, you shouldn't be a jerk to them, but you also should love them enough to say that God has a greater plan for you than from staying in this current condition that you currently are.
[01:09:45]  And that kind of goes back to what is love, right?
[01:09:48]  Which is it phileo, agape, eros, or storge?
[01:09:51]  You see, we have one word for love, and we use it interchangeably here in the West.
[01:09:55]  But in biblical Christianity, in the Koine Greek, there's multitude of different words for love.
[01:09:59]  Is it phileo, brotherly love?
[01:10:01]  Is it storge, you know, kind of a parent-to-child love?
[01:10:03]  Is it eros, romantic love, or is it agape, sacrificial love?
[01:10:07]  And so, you know, the type of love where God sacrificed himself for us is one thing, but is it the type of love where it's a brotherly love where I love you so much, I'm not going to allow you to stay where you are because I believe God has a better plan in store for you?
[01:10:19]  That I believe is more loving than justifying a lifestyle that's in, let's just say, complete and total war with God's natural design.
[01:10:28]  God bless you.
[01:10:29]  Thank you.

=== White Rage in the Military (03:15) ===

[01:10:33]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:10:35]  Thank you for being here.
[01:10:36]  It's a pleasure to be here.
[01:10:36]  I'm a big fan.
[01:10:38]  My question is about the war in Ukraine and how it's currently projected to go with NATO being the way it is.
[01:10:46]  How let me let me sorry.
[01:10:51]  So I have a brother who's in the army.
[01:10:53]  I got out of the Navy last year, and I have a lot of friends who are coming up on the end of their contracts, trying to figure out if they should re-enlist or get out.
[01:11:00]  And my question is: with the war going the way it is and the potential for U.S. involvement, do you think that they how what would you say to someone who is considering whether or not to stay in or get in versus get out?
[01:11:14]  Yeah, so um first I this I get this question all the time and it's a very difficult question to answer because who am I to try to deter the willingness of someone who wants to serve America, right?
[01:11:24]  It's a very, very difficult question.
[01:11:25]  Let's put the Ukraine thing aside because I think we've talked about that plenty.
[01:11:29]  Let's talk about why military enrollment is down 25% this year.
[01:11:33]  Military enrollment is down 25% because the military is quickly becoming a college campus with missiles.
[01:11:43]  You look at what's happening to the military from the woke seminars to the gender ideology.
[01:11:50]  You have PSAs put forward by the Navy that says that we need to get people's genders correctly.
[01:11:56]  We need to get their pronouns correctly.
[01:11:57]  I'm sorry.
[01:11:58]  They're more worried about social sensitivity than crushing and killing the enemy.
[01:12:04]  I would caution your loved ones, your brother, your friends to be more worried about that and what that might mean, where you have Mark Milley who comes out and he says that the biggest, one of the biggest problems in the military is white rage.
[01:12:19]  What is that exactly?
[01:12:21]  You mean the white rage that stormed Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, and Normandy Beach, you fat bum?
[01:12:26]  Like, that's the white rage that you're worried about?
[01:12:32]  You mean like the white rage?
[01:12:34]  I'm not saying that all the people in the military in World War II were Caucasian, but a vast majority were.
[01:12:39]  And they had a lot of rage against the Nazis, and I'm glad they did.
[01:12:44]  And so, and then the other thing I would say is the vaccine thing is that if they have any sort of claim in the future that they don't want to have to take an mRNA gene-altering technology against their will, then the United States military probably is not the best choice for them.
[01:13:01]  And then I would also just everyone look up who the rear admiral for health is, Levine, of which got me suspended from Twitter for even mentioning it.
[01:13:13]  So that would actually give me greater caution than that, than the Ukrainian situation.
[01:13:18]  Because I do still think that American military involvement is unlikely, despite all the clamoring and the kind of the incessant kind of cattle around that.
[01:13:27]  So look, the woke mind virus, the pathogen of the progressives, is quickly infecting every institution.
[01:13:33]  And boy, the Chinese Communist Party, they could not be more happy with our progressive ideology that has taken over massive parts of our military.
[01:13:42]  And that's why military enrollment is at the lowest levels since the Vietnam War, because people see it.

=== Bitcoin and Radical Leftist Agendas (02:49) ===

[01:13:48]  God bless you.
[01:13:48]  Thank you.
[01:13:55]  Hello, Charlie.
[01:13:56]  I would like to ask you about the importance of money.
[01:13:59]  So under Executive Order 14067, the Federal Reserve is tasked with looking into how a central bank digital currency might be created, and they are evaluating the necessary steps and requirements of implementing one.
[01:14:16]  What are your thoughts on Bitcoin?
[01:14:18]  And what do you think, how important do you think its adoption is in securing individual liberties in this country?
[01:14:27]  I'm a huge fan of Bitcoin.
[01:14:29]  The technology, I think, is terrific.
[01:14:32]  I think it's just a matter of time.
[01:14:33]  Now, when I say Bitcoin, I really mean cryptocurrency more broadly or generally.
[01:14:38]  I'm not trying to endorse a coin or telling you to buy it or any of that stuff that got Kim Kardashian in trouble, okay, for all the federal regulators that are watching this.
[01:14:46]  You could buy Ethereum, you could buy whatever you want.
[01:14:48]  But the idea of decentralized currency that is transparent and inflation resistant is very important to liberty.
[01:14:55]  Money is a store of value.
[01:14:56]  That's all that it is.
[01:14:57]  Money replaced the barter system.
[01:14:59]  It's more efficient.
[01:15:00]  It allowed the entire Western world to be developed.
[01:15:03]  And the war on liberty is being directly waged by the Federal Reserve for a reason to deteriorate our money.
[01:15:08]  I think to eventually reset it to be able to crush your earning potential, crush your ability to store capital, crush your ability to be able to earn a life, you know, build a life and earn capital quickly and the ability you want to.
[01:15:21]  Bitcoin, I think, is a hedge against all of that.
[01:15:23]  Without going too deep into the technology of all of it, using blockchain and using it more broadly, it is resistant to kind of tyrannical intervention, if you will.
[01:15:32]  Blockchain, because of its unique one-to-one ability to be able to exist.
[01:15:42]  And the other part about Bitcoin that's so fascinating is the ledger.
[01:15:45]  The ability that you'd be able to see every transaction in real time.
[01:15:48]  That only gives you trust and transparency in the system, where our current system is built on fiat currency wishes and hopes.
[01:15:55]  So I'm a big believer in crypto, a big believer in blockchain.
[01:15:59]  I think it's just a matter of time before that becomes the norm.
[01:16:03]  But let me say one final thing: resist, resist, resist, resist the federal government creating a digital currency.
[01:16:11]  Do not allow that to happen.
[01:16:12]  God bless you.
[01:16:13]  Thank you.
[01:16:19]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:16:20]  First, I just wanted to thank you for coming.
[01:16:22]  I'm a big fan.
[01:16:24]  So I do want to be a dad one day, and I'm a little worried about the public school system pushing more and more radical leftist agenda like transgenderism, socialism, CRT.

=== Solutions Over Political Labels (10:22) ===

[01:16:38]  So I just wanted to see what you would recommend for me and conservative parents for protecting their kids as they enter school.
[01:16:46]  Like, would you recommend private schooling or homeschooling?
[01:16:50]  Well, a couple of things.
[01:16:51]  So we have the wonderful partnership with Dream City Christian Academy, which is a Turning Point Academy right up the street.
[01:16:58]  We're super thrilled about that.
[01:16:59]  So if anyone watching wants to send their kid to a great school, Dream City Christian does a phenomenal job.
[01:17:03]  We're also launching Turning Point Academy pod schools all across the country for kind of homeschooling centers.
[01:17:09]  For anyone watching, or you have friends or family or relatives that want to start a pod school with Turning Point Academy anywhere across the country, we'd be thrilled about that.
[01:17:16]  And look, so the numbers are overwhelming, though, that homeschooling kids outperform even private school and definitely government school kids.
[01:17:24]  But look, every parent is different.
[01:17:25]  I went to public school, and for me, it was a good thing.
[01:17:28]  It was.
[01:17:29]  Despite the indoctrination and the Marxism, I was a little different.
[01:17:32]  Where the more opposition that I actually encountered, the stronger it made me and the more willing it wanted, you know, I wanted to fight.
[01:17:38]  But not every kid is like that, right?
[01:17:40]  Some kids bend to the whims and kind of the whispers of secular progressivism when it's in the schools.
[01:17:46]  But I think generally and broadly, we need a mass exodus of kids from the government school system into private schools and homeschooling.
[01:17:54]  We have to try to double the homeschooling population and double the Christian private school population in the next couple of years.
[01:17:59]  God bless you.
[01:18:00]  Thank you.
[01:18:07]  Hi, Charlie.
[01:18:08]  Thanks for coming out.
[01:18:08]  My name is Tori, and I am vice chair of the Students for Carrie Lake Coalition.
[01:18:12]  And because of the importance of our upcoming election on November 8th, I wanted to ask you if you believe Carrie Lake is a future of conservatism and your thoughts on her policies, as most GCU students are from out of state and could be unfamiliar with her.
[01:18:25]  So thanks for the question.
[01:18:26]  Again, I'm speaking personally here when we talk politics, especially this close to an election.
[01:18:31]  So I'm a huge Carrie Lake fan.
[01:18:33]  That's not a mystery.
[01:18:36]  Carrie's awesome.
[01:18:39]  Arizona is a terrific state, and she would be Arizona would be so well served by having Carrie Lake as governor.
[01:18:45]  And I got to tell you, though, that, you know, to see the race unfold, and you have someone who's not even willing to debate, that should tell you everything that you need to know.
[01:18:53]  And just go up and debate.
[01:18:54]  Just go up and answer some questions.
[01:18:56]  But here's the thing: Carrie Lake understands everything we're talking about tonight: the border, the need for a free market and flourishing economy, the need to put parents first in education, and also will reject the California cation of Arizona at every single turn.
[01:19:08]  She's not going to put up with the homelessness.
[01:19:09]  She's not going to put up with the vagrancy.
[01:19:11]  She's not going to put up with the teacher unions, you know, dominating the entire kind of government discourse here.
[01:19:18]  And despite all of the nonsense, despite all of the garbage thrown at Carrie Lake, I still think she's going to win, and I think she's going to win convincingly.
[01:19:25]  And so, I got to tell you, you look at Carrie Lake, she's young, energetic, charismatic, full of life.
[01:19:30]  She's willing to look at solutions for all people.
[01:19:34]  And then you have Katie Hobbs.
[01:19:36]  And so, I got to tell you that my personal, again, not on behalf of Turning Point USA, Turning Point Action, yes, which is not posting tonight, but my personal endorsement of Carrie Lake is 100% across the board.
[01:19:48]  And I got to tell you, I get complaints from people all across the country about their person running for dog catcher and running for all this different stuff.
[01:19:53]  We got so many emails.
[01:19:55]  And I got to say, I smile.
[01:19:56]  I say, man, when I get to fill out my ballot, I get to vote for Carrie Lake.
[01:20:01]  That's awesome.
[01:20:02]  Thank you.
[01:20:09]  Adam, Charlie, good to see you again.
[01:20:11]  Proud you and proud ultra MAGA.
[01:20:13]  I'm even wearing my Donald Trump yarmulke right now under my stetcher.
[01:20:19]  So, similar question as like my boy Daniel was asking with the Latino community.
[01:20:24]  The rhinos never gave a damn about spreading the Republican message and especially the conservative message.
[01:20:30]  And those leftist schmucks don't give a damn about minorities until it's time for us time for us to vote.
[01:20:35]  So, what would your recommendation be to the America First Movement so that we can avoid those mistakes and spread our message?
[01:20:42]  Yeah, look, we just have to represent all people.
[01:20:44]  I mean, look, the messages we're talking about tonight are applicable to all backgrounds and all people at all times.
[01:20:50]  But you look at school choice, you look at parents' rights, you look at the issue of the border.
[01:20:54]  This is widely popular.
[01:20:56]  And I have to just say this: rejecting and resisting kind of this mass movement of wokeism is something I think that represents all communities, especially communities of Latinos and black people across America.
[01:21:08]  It's very, very important.
[01:21:09]  But, you know, you look at the kind of issues we're dealing with in the country.
[01:21:13]  I want to see conservatives talk about solutions.
[01:21:16]  I want to see conservatives lean in and try to improve the lives of all people.
[01:21:20]  And you look at how bad things can actually get.
[01:21:24]  You saw over the course of the last two years, the lockdowns, from the mass inflation, everything we're living through right now.
[01:21:30]  You know, it's very, very clear, regardless of skin color or background, there's a lot of misery going around right now.
[01:21:35]  And conservatives have solutions.
[01:21:37]  They have solutions rooted in reality, rooted in the natural law that I think would lift all people, regardless of skin color or background.
[01:21:43]  God bless you, man.
[01:21:44]  Thank you.
[01:21:45]  I think this is the last question, right?
[01:21:46]  Yeah.
[01:21:47]  One more.
[01:21:48]  This will be the last question.
[01:21:51]  Charlie, thank you for coming out and talking to us today.
[01:21:54]  So my question is: so, I remember listening to a podcast with Ben Shapiro, and I love listening to him because he sometimes will attack conservatism and kind of give his viewpoint and say, hey, these things are we don't do well.
[01:22:09]  So I was listening to his podcast, and one of the things that he brought up was conservatism's ability to get in their own way sometimes, to where they struggle to connect with a lot of people that sit in the middle, where you're spending a lot of your time fighting wokeism in the left, and you have a lot of people in swing states that are crucial states that lead to a successful presidency like Biden.
[01:22:36]  What do you think the biggest mountain conservatism has to climb to get out of their own way, to hopefully connect with those center people?
[01:22:46]  Yeah, that's a great question.
[01:22:48]  Boy, I would say generally, so there's two things: kind of conservative worldview or conservative politically, right?
[01:22:53]  So those can be kind of interchanged.
[01:22:55]  So I think for conservative worldview in particular, I think that we have to lean in and learn more about how to be persuasive and how to communicate.
[01:23:04]  And I think we're doing a good job of that, though.
[01:23:06]  I got to be honest.
[01:23:07]  You know, you look at the top 15 podcasts on Apple News and you're talking about suppression and social media.
[01:23:13]  The top 15 podcasts are continually, eight or nine of them are conservative.
[01:23:17]  It's Bongino, it's our program, it's Shapiro, it's Walsh, it's Bannon.
[01:23:22]  And so you look at just kind of the ideological direction of the average podcast listener in America, it's center right.
[01:23:27]  That's pretty amazing, considering the amount of media and spending that comes from the left.
[01:23:32]  That's number one.
[01:23:32]  But just from politicians, though, I got to be honest, I think if politicians were more clear about running against the threat of what, and it's kind of against your question here, but that's fine.
[01:23:46]  I just kind of, I don't know if I disagree.
[01:23:47]  It's just the threat of what the kind of woke mind virus will do to our country.
[01:23:51]  I think that appeals to 70 to 80% of our country.
[01:23:54]  I think that most people know deep down that black-only dormitories are wrong.
[01:24:00]  They know deep down that, you know, this men can become pregnant nonsense that is being taught in our schools or pornography for six-year-olds, which is happening, right?
[01:24:08]  Or there's all this kind of queer theory stuff that's happening.
[01:24:11]  I think it really animates people and it builds broad-based coalitions.
[01:24:15]  And then as far as kind of like general conservatives, I do say this, as someone who's 100% pro-life, I do think though, unless conservatives go through a boot camp on how to talk about abortion, they shouldn't talk about abortion.
[01:24:26]  I think that most conservatives do not know how to talk about the topic at all whatsoever.
[01:24:30]  I'm willing to help teach them.
[01:24:31]  Shapiro can teach them all that, you know, Candace Owens and all that.
[01:24:34]  But most candidates stumble over their own words.
[01:24:36]  They don't talk about, you know, made in the image of God, not your DNA, not your choice.
[01:24:40]  It's a very deep, complex issue, but it's very morally clear.
[01:24:43]  I think it's a loser in some communities if you don't actually know how to communicate it.
[01:24:46]  Generally, I actually think it's a winner.
[01:24:48]  But finally, the big, big thing, I think conservatives have to stop playing based on the terms of engagement set by the media.
[01:24:55]  The media is always trying to set the terms of the engagement.
[01:24:57]  When conservatives set the terms, we win.
[01:25:00]  When we play offense, we talk about the issues we care about.
[01:25:02]  If it was up to them, we'd just be talking about January 6th all the time.
[01:25:05]  Like, that's the only thing that matters, right?
[01:25:06]  Like, actually, no, people can't afford gas.
[01:25:08]  They can't afford their homes, right?
[01:25:09]  They can't afford their mortgages.
[01:25:12]  Rent in Phoenix is going up astronomically for working people.
[01:25:15]  I mean, they're getting crushed.
[01:25:17]  And so I think we have to set the agenda and not care what the media does.
[01:25:20]  And one final thing that I think is applicable.
[01:25:22]  We have to not care about what the general world calls us.
[01:25:26]  It doesn't matter if they call us you the bad names at all.
[01:25:29]  Are you doing what's right?
[01:25:30]  Are you doing it courageously?
[01:25:31]  And are you doing it clearly?
[01:25:32]  That matters a lot more than whatever label the media tries to throw at you.
[01:25:35]  And just to kind of go to earlier, you know, an earlier thing that I was talking about personally, that's one of the things that fascinates me about Carrie Lake.
[01:25:42]  If she ends up winning, it will be a masterclass of someone who was once in the media, fought the media successfully despite being outspent like 30 to 1 on TV and running a real people first, you know, Arizona-first issue-based campaign.
[01:25:57]  It's a fascinating test case in more ways than one.
[01:26:00]  And I think it could be a blueprint in other states and other races.
[01:26:03]  Thank you.
[01:26:03]  God bless you, man.
[01:26:07]  All right.
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