The Charlie Kirk Show - Debunking the DOJ 'Document Dispute' with Tom Fitton
Aired: 2022-08-31
Duration: 29:35


=== Presidential Records and Rights (12:50) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:00]  Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch helps us unpack the latest of the affidavit news of the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
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[00:01:26]  Joining us right now is a great American patriot.
[00:01:29]  He runs one of the most important organizations.
[00:01:31]  That's right, one of the most important organizations on the planet, Judicial Watch.
[00:01:37]  And he has been on the front lines of the affidavit fight.
[00:01:40]  It's so funny.
[00:01:40]  Tom, welcome to the program.
[00:01:42]  As soon as I saw all this stuff happening with the corrupt judge, and I said, Oh, I bet I really hope Judicial Watch is on it.
[00:01:48]  Before I could even, you know, think to text you, I got an alert.
[00:01:52]  Judicial Watch files a lawsuit and all this.
[00:01:54]  So I want you to spike the football on the affidavit.
[00:01:56]  Get your take.
[00:01:57]  I want your take on what's contained in there.
[00:01:59]  And then we'll go from there.
[00:02:00]  And just, again, phenomenal work on Judicial Watch.
[00:02:03]  Tom, the floor is yours.
[00:02:04]  Hey, thank you, Charlie.
[00:02:05]  I appreciate the good word there.
[00:02:07]  And, you know, we've been litigating federal records laws and fights about them for nearly 30 years.
[00:02:14]  So, I mean, we saw that this whole fight with Trump and, you know, which culminated in this outrageous raid on his home, was a sham.
[00:02:24]  We had litigated this issue 10, 12 years ago over Clinton records.
[00:02:30]  He had tapes he kept in his sock drawer, tapes that depicted him talking to foreign leaders and members of Congress.
[00:02:37]  And we took the position the Justice Department's taking now.
[00:02:39]  Those are presidential records.
[00:02:41]  They're potentially classified.
[00:02:42]  Get them.
[00:02:44]  And they told us to go jump in a lake.
[00:02:46]  They said that presumably, if the president has them after he leaves office, they're his.
[00:02:51]  The court said no one can second-guess his decision to keep records like that versus personal versus presidential.
[00:02:58]  And then, of course, they changed their legal position when it came to targeting Trump.
[00:03:03]  And so we knew it was a sham.
[00:03:05]  And sure enough, as soon as we saw this outrageous, abusive political raid, we asked the court to unseal the records.
[00:03:13]  The media followed our lead, and we won.
[00:03:17]  You know, A, we forced the release of the warrant.
[00:03:20]  And then B, we forced the release of the affidavit that the Justice Department wanted to release not one iota of.
[00:03:28]  And the affidavit shows there was no good faith basis for the raid, that the archives asserted authority and power over former President Trump it didn't have, which means their legal position under the law is they're supposed to take care of presidential records they have.
[00:03:46]  They're not allowed to, and the law gives them no power to go after a president and say those records should be presidential, give them to us.
[00:03:56]  And so if I were President Trump, certainly this affidavit confirms they don't have a leg to stand on.
[00:04:02]  I go back to the court and I say, look, you know, this material was turned over.
[00:04:08]  You know, I tried to play nice here.
[00:04:11]  But in the end, these are my records personally and I want them all back.
[00:04:16]  And I want court recognition that what they did here was an abuse of power that hasn't been seen in American history before.
[00:04:25]  There's so many different questions I have here.
[00:04:27]  The first of which is, Tom, you're not the first one to say Kash Patel came on this program.
[00:04:31]  And Mike Davis said this as well on Steve Bannon's program.
[00:04:34]  It was very clear.
[00:04:35]  The president has the ability to declassify whatever he wants to declassify.
[00:04:41]  Why is this even debated, Tom?
[00:04:42]  What do you mean they changed their mind or changed the law?
[00:04:45]  Did Congress change a law that we are unaware of?
[00:04:48]  This seems so unbelievably transparently cut and dry.
[00:04:51]  Again, I'm just the layman here looking at this, but I keep on hearing people say that like you, okay, you could declass whatever he wants.
[00:04:58]  Then what's the controversy here, really, Tom?
[00:05:00]  Help me explain that.
[00:05:01]  Well, the controversy is about what the nature of these documents are.
[00:05:05]  And I'm highlighting for you that there's significant court precedent, the prior Justice Department legal position, prior archives legal position.
[00:05:15]  Remember, we sued the archives over this very issue.
[00:05:18]  And so their prior position had been, if he has it after he leaves office, any records, including potentially classified information, they're presumptively personal.
[00:05:28]  And so I saw when back in February, this issue first popped up, my first response was, heck, we lost on this very issue.
[00:05:37]  And now the Justice Department all of a sudden is saying that these records are presidential or potentially should be turned over to them under the law.
[00:05:46]  That's completely at odds with their prior position.
[00:05:49]  And when you have lawyers and when you have the Justice Department or federal deep state agencies change their position, you know, it's not about the law.
[00:05:58]  It's about politics.
[00:06:00]  I mean, of course it is.
[00:06:01]  I just, I find it extraordinary that we are raiding homes of a former president over paperwork.
[00:06:09]  And I mean, so someone said the other day on television some low IQ talking head on MSDNC.
[00:06:17]  They said, well, you know, the documents weren't secure there at Mar-a-Lago.
[00:06:20]  Mar-a-Lago's under secret service protection at all times.
[00:06:23]  Have you tried going into Mar-a-Lago?
[00:06:25]  How exactly are those documents not secure?
[00:06:28]  You don't know, Tom.
[00:06:30]  Go ahead.
[00:06:31]  Charlie, they're not classified.
[00:06:34]  You know, they may not like the idea that the president has the ability to declassify records when he's president or take them with him as part of his constitutional prerogatives as president under the Presidential Records Act.
[00:06:47]  So, I mean, they may be nervous about that, but the reality is the law didn't allow them to go and grab them back like that.
[00:06:55]  And, you know, to tell a court otherwise and to suggest that the law did was fundamentally dishonest.
[00:07:03]  And frankly, I don't understand why the court signed on to this because he had before him, because at least they had the, you know, they couldn't completely hide the debate from the court.
[00:07:14]  And if I were to court and I saw that there was this dispute about the fundamental nature of the records, I would have told the Justice Department, you go back and you litigate this and you figure out whose records these are and then come back to me because I'm not going to let you rate the president's, a former president's home based on, as you highlight, a records dispute.
[00:07:37]  Now, if a court found they're classified, you know, that's one thing.
[00:07:43]  You know, and the other solution could have been the president could have said to President Trump could have said to them all, take the records.
[00:07:50]  You know, you're concerned about them.
[00:07:52]  I understand.
[00:07:54]  By the way, they're mine, but I'm going to give them to you.
[00:07:57]  And he should have and still should, and he still can preserve his rights there.
[00:08:02]  That these are personal records.
[00:08:05]  And now they want to change the game and change the rules and change the law, but they're personal records.
[00:08:10]  And my whole point is there was never a basis to launch a criminal inquiry here.
[00:08:15]  At best, there was a debate civilly that could have been had, but they weren't interested in doing that because the rule is not to enforce the law, but it is to destroy Trump.
[00:08:26]  I mean, and so, but Tom, you know, the kind of mantra of judicial watch is no one is above the law.
[00:08:31]  And I don't know if you noticed that the New York Times kind of ran with that one-liner calling for the indictment of Donald Trump.
[00:08:38]  And I mean, just if we talk about records and we talk about the preservation of information, what did Hillary Clinton do exactly?
[00:08:44]  You were on the front lines of exposing all of that.
[00:08:46]  I mean, this is outrageous.
[00:08:47]  This is even being remotely entertained while Hillary Clinton goes and bleach bits emails and starts smashing things with hammers.
[00:08:54]  Your thoughts?
[00:08:55]  Yeah, but she didn't have a right to any of those records she had, unlike President Trump's prerogatives as president.
[00:09:00]  She had classified information stored on an unsecure server while she was a government official, then stole those records, tried to hide and destroy them.
[00:09:09]  And the Justice Department and the State Department, we've essentially had to force them into figuring out what went on here.
[00:09:16]  And they didn't want to take the strong legal action that would be necessary according to their new theory of the law here.
[00:09:23]  And on top of that, still Bill Clinton has those tapes we talked about that include presumptively classified information.
[00:09:30]  Are they going to raid his home still?
[00:09:32]  This is all bunk.
[00:09:34]  Let's not, you know, I know we have to talk a little bit about and should focus on the legal insufficiency of what they've done and the lawlessness, but that just highlights this.
[00:09:45]  It's not about the records.
[00:09:47]  It's about Trump.
[00:09:49]  And in theory, to a degree, it's about the records, as we can talk about a little bit later.
[00:09:55]  It was more about not what Trump had per se, but what Trump had on them.
[00:10:01]  Unbelievable.
[00:10:03]  It's just, it's just, it's so extraordinary.
[00:10:04]  It's so third world.
[00:10:06]  So, Tom, what is a special master?
[00:10:07]  And do you think we're going to get one in this situation?
[00:10:10]  I don't know whether the court's going to grant this request.
[00:10:12]  The fact that this request has gotten so far in the federal court system is remarkable and is a positive sign for the Trump team.
[00:10:22]  You know, first we beat them.
[00:10:25]  Frankly, it was not just Judicial Watch.
[00:10:27]  It was the New York Times.
[00:10:28]  You know, they supported this transparency too and other big media companies.
[00:10:33]  And the Justice Department didn't want to release anything.
[00:10:35]  So they lost there.
[00:10:37]  And then they lost against President Trump over the special master fight.
[00:10:41]  Whether one gets appointed, I don't know.
[00:10:44]  There should be a thorough examination by an independent judicial appointed official of these records that not only seriously protects the president's prerogatives in terms of attorney-client privilege, which isn't the only issue here, as I've highlighted.
[00:11:00]  If the theory is all these records are personal, that issue needs to be adjudicated because if it turns out that there was no basis to suggest that these records were government records that were in the purview of the archives, the FBI or the Justice Department, every single one of those documents should be turned back to Trump.
[00:11:18]  And in the least, he should be given apologies.
[00:11:20]  We'll see what else in terms of accountability, which is a whole other matter.
[00:11:25]  But so in closing here, Tom, what sort of, you know, what sort of grievance can Donald Trump put forward now?
[00:11:32]  I mean, what's to prevent this from just rating them raiding every single political opponent now?
[00:11:36]  The precedent here is just it's hard to even wrap our heads around.
[00:11:41]  Tom, what can possibly be done to stop this?
[00:11:44]  Is there anything that could be done?
[00:11:47]  Well, he may have civil rights claims.
[00:11:49]  I'm no lawyer, but The fact is, the civil rights were violated, and typically, you know, you can sue when that happens, and there's an egregious violation of your rights, as I believe has already happened with Trump, not only here, but in other situations was the FBI.
[00:12:06]  And of course, to the degree, there was a criminal misuse of government resources for political purposes to target him.
[00:12:13]  There should be criminal investigations into what went on here.
[00:12:17]  You know, I don't know how much more evidence that we need to share that the FBI is fundamentally corrupt, that the Justice Department is happily willing to use and abuse the use of force to target its political enemies.
[00:12:33]  People who do that shouldn't be in power.
[00:12:37]  They should not be in power.
[00:12:39]  They should be the opposite of not in power.
[00:12:40]  They should be held accountable and potentially criminally.
[00:12:43]  Tom Fitton, thank you so much for joining us.
[00:12:44]  Phenomenal as always.
[00:12:46]  You're welcome.
[00:12:46]  Thank you, Charon.

=== War Choices and Energy Costs (09:55) ===

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[00:13:51]  Look, we've been a huge critic of what's happening of the Western involvement in Ukraine.
[00:13:57]  Of course, we're no fan of Vladimir Putin.
[00:13:58]  He's a thug, he's a war criminal, all those different things.
[00:14:01]  But the West involving ourselves in the continuation of the war in Ukraine is making European life more expensive and is making Western life really, it's putting into jeopardy.
[00:14:14]  And there's been one journalist that's really been on top of this brilliantly.
[00:14:18]  And I'm going to do my best to pronounce her last name, but it's Eva Vladimir Dingerbrook.
[00:14:23]  Did I say that, Eva?
[00:14:23]  Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:14:25]  Thank you.
[00:14:26]  Yeah, you got it.
[00:14:26]  That's all good.
[00:14:28]  All right, good.
[00:14:28]  Well, welcome to the program.
[00:14:30]  You've been doing some phenomenal journalism and some terrific coverage of this.
[00:14:34]  I want to play Cut 26 and then get your reaction.
[00:14:36]  Play Cut 26.
[00:14:38]  So, how is all that spending working out?
[00:14:39]  Are we winning the war in Ukraine?
[00:14:41]  Have we bankrupted Vladimir Putin like Joe Biden claimed we would?
[00:14:45]  The ruble just hit a seven-year high against the U.S. dollar in June.
[00:14:49]  Take a look at this chart comparing the Russian ruble against the Euro.
[00:14:52]  Russia's doing well.
[00:14:54]  Europe is not doing well at all.
[00:14:56]  Now, Joe Biden is calling for an unconditional surrender from Vladimir Putin.
[00:15:02]  Here's the weird thing: by any actual reality-based measure, Vladimir Putin is not losing the war in Ukraine.
[00:15:09]  He is winning the war in Ukraine.
[00:15:11]  Eva, your reaction.
[00:15:13]  Well, he's obviously right.
[00:15:15]  He's winning the war in Ukraine, and the Dutch people, the European people in general, were the ones that are paying the price for the choices that our establishment have made.
[00:15:23]  So instead of sanctioning Russia, they're basically sanctioning their own people.
[00:15:28]  And, you know, when you talk about the life in Europe becoming more expensive, energy prices becoming more expensive, that's not a little bit.
[00:15:37]  So, in my home country, in the Netherlands, energy prices are up by 300%, meaning that ordinary households, people who usually spend about 120 to 200 euros per month on their energy bills, are facing energy bills up to 1,000 euros.
[00:15:53]  Sometimes, you know, if they have a big family, even more than that.
[00:15:57]  And then, let alone other businesses, you know, small to medium businesses, the energy bills that they are going to have to be paying.
[00:16:04]  It's just not something that's fathomable, not something that's doable.
[00:16:07]  And this is going to break a lot of people, quite literally.
[00:16:12]  Yeah, so I just kind of speaking from a European standpoint, not so much American.
[00:16:17]  I mean, is the average person in the Netherlands are they upset about this?
[00:16:21]  I mean, energy rates are skyrocketing and the governments are just lying to them.
[00:16:26]  What is the reaction to the everyday middle-class person that just runs their life and they're not necessarily a political activist?
[00:16:35]  What's the reaction in Europe?
[00:16:37]  So, people are definitely nervous.
[00:16:39]  Obviously, it's a little bit of a silence before the storm situation because it's still summer now.
[00:16:44]  But people are getting their new energy bills and their energy suppliers are writing them and telling them, hey, this is the new monthly rate that you're going to be paying.
[00:16:52]  And people are definitely worried.
[00:16:54]  But what they don't seem to recognize, which is something that I noticed Tucker was a little too optimistic about in his segment, actually, is that they fail to see that this is all a direct result of the choices that our establishment has made willfully.
[00:17:10]  So, this is something that could have and should have been avoided and doesn't have just to do with the fact that there is a war in Ukraine.
[00:17:18]  It also has to do with the fact that our government obviously has been pushing this Green New Deal, has been pushing climate agendas, and they want to get rid of fossil fuel altogether.
[00:17:28]  So, this is not a natural disaster that is suddenly hitting our governments and our people hard.
[00:17:35]  This is by choice.
[00:17:37]  And that is something that I notice Europeans don't want to think about.
[00:17:41]  They don't want to see that.
[00:17:43]  And that is what worries me about the future.
[00:17:45]  So, when they are in fact going to face dark and cold winter, dark and cold winter, which they will, are they going to see that that is a direct result of our establishment's actions?
[00:17:57]  Or are they going to beg them for help?
[00:18:00]  And are they going to be willing to give up their freedom and give up basically their wealth again to the state in order to basically survive?
[00:18:09]  That's what I'm afraid of.
[00:18:10]  And I think that that's what the establishment is actually hoping for.
[00:18:15]  Yeah, I just where is the breaking point between this insane environmental green ideology and just the reality of living in a decent place?
[00:18:26]  I mean, the Netherlands is a beautiful country, and it's not just the Netherlands, it's all these Western European countries that, of course, are a little bit more heavy-handed with kind of government programs, but they're decent and nice places to live.
[00:18:38]  And I mean, the quality of life will plummet in these countries.
[00:18:42]  I mean, Eva, explain to me how on earth these leaders are justifying the suicidal actions to turn a vibrant, decent society into a second or third world country.
[00:18:55]  I do not understand that.
[00:18:57]  So, it's ultimately it is emotional blackmail.
[00:19:00]  So, there's definitely a part where our leaders quite literally will say, we just have to do this because we have to stand with Ukraine and we have to fight against the evils of Putin.
[00:19:12]  So, this is just something that we are going to collectively have to bear, which again is all a lie.
[00:19:18]  For example, in my country, the Netherlands, we have the largest natural gas bubble in the European Union under our northern soil.
[00:19:26]  But they're not touching that, they say, because, well, first of all, fossil fuel is bad.
[00:19:31]  You know, we have to get rid of it altogether, but also because it would cause, for example, minor earthquakes and that would cause cracks in houses of people who live in the north.
[00:19:40]  And instead of saying, okay, we're going to offer those people, you know, sufficient compensation for the damage that will be done to their houses, we're just not going to touch that gas at all.
[00:19:48]  And now we have the highest energy prices in Europe, and they're saying there's nothing we can do about this.
[00:19:54]  It's all because of Putin and they lay the blame with everything and anyone but themselves.
[00:20:00]  Yeah, and so I just can't imagine that is popular.
[00:20:04]  And so can you talk into some detail exactly kind of the costs here?
[00:20:08]  You sent out a couple tweets here.
[00:20:10]  You said the Dutch government claims it can't afford to lower the income tax because it would cost about $4 billion per 1%.
[00:20:16]  Yet they're spending $25 billion on a made-up nitrogen crisis to expropriate our farmers and a $17 billion on immigration.
[00:20:25]  It's all a choice.
[00:20:26]  It's all a matter of choice.
[00:20:26]  They want you to be poor.
[00:20:28]  And also, this sort of ideology is coming into America, isn't it, Eva?
[00:20:32]  Oh, absolutely.
[00:20:33]  Yeah.
[00:20:34]  What I really want people to understand from this is that this is a matter of choice.
[00:20:38]  So, first of all, you know, our governments have been doing insane things to make the cost of living incredibly high, you know, and they're not talking about those.
[00:20:47]  So we're not talking about all the lockdowns that they forced on us that absolutely wrecked our economy.
[00:20:53]  They're not talking about all of the money that they've printed, you know, that is now being used for things that do not serve the interests of the people.
[00:21:01]  Like, for example, this nitrogen crisis that they are using to expropriate our farmers.
[00:21:05]  I'm sure you've heard of that in the media.
[00:21:07]  I've talked about it a trillion times.
[00:21:09]  So it is a matter of choice.
[00:21:10]  25 billion euros for a made-up nitrogen crisis that is going to cost what?
[00:21:15]  Food shortages.
[00:21:17]  60 billion euros for a climate transition that does not need to happen.
[00:21:21]  17 billion euros a year in the Netherlands for immigration that causes all sorts of problems, amongst which housing problems, for example.
[00:21:30]  All of these crises are created.
[00:21:33]  And the only thing that I can think of is why they're doing this is because they want you to feel that chaos.
[00:21:38]  They want you to become poor so that you will accept any type of government control from them when they step in and offer a so-called solution to the problem that they have created.
[00:21:50]  I hope every American is listening to this very carefully.
[00:21:53]  This is exactly where they want to take our country.
[00:21:56]  This is all designed with the great reset, which is to break the back of vibrant, wealthy, decentralized living and make it dependent on the state.
[00:22:08]  This is a canary in the coal mine, if I've ever seen one.
[00:22:11]  And just phenomenal commentary and reporting.
[00:22:14]  Eva, thank you so much.
[00:22:15]  Great job.
[00:22:15]  Thank you.
[00:22:16]  Thank you for having me.
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[00:23:20]  I want to just talk briefly about this COVID pivot that is happening.
[00:23:25]  It's remarkable.
[00:23:27]  And you could start to see, they think you're so stupid.
[00:23:31]  They think as if you're not going to remember the people that locked you down and forced masks on you and forced vaccines on you.
[00:23:37]  But it is happening at a rapid pace of the people in charge that are now pointing fingers and blaming other people based on now the unpopularity of COVID lockdowns, speech impediments, all these different sorts of things that have happened because of mask mandates and school closures.
[00:23:57]  The biggest mistake in modern American history, the largest and biggest mistake was us locking down ourselves.
[00:24:06]  And now they're going to blame Donald Trump for all of it.
[00:24:09]  It is now overwhelmingly, it is the consensus that lockdowns were not a good idea, that it is and was a problem, and they're going to blame Trump for the vaccine and for all of it.
[00:24:19]  It is the great blame pivot that is happening in front of us.
[00:24:23]  If there was a list of, let's just say, people that I was most repulsed by during the lockdowns, Dr. Liana Wen would be at the top of that list.
[00:24:38]  Dr. Wen ran Planned Parenthood for some time.
[00:24:41]  She's now a columnist for the Washington Post and a CNN medical analyst.
[00:24:46]  Throughout the entire lockdowns, she was a promoter of the most extreme, over-the-top, unnecessarily cruel measures.
[00:24:57]  And Dr. Liana Wen would, she almost had a Stalinist type attitude to herself.
[00:25:04]  And this is one of the most important things happening in front of us.
[00:25:07]  Again, there's so many different stories unfolding, but we are now living through the great rewind to try to make the great reset happen.
[00:25:17]  The great rewind basically hinges on the idea that they think you are dumb.
[00:25:25]  They think you are ignorant.
[00:25:27]  They think you are stupid.
[00:25:28]  That you're somehow going to forget that these very same people were just on television saying the exact and total and polar opposite.
[00:25:38]  So, Dr. Liana Wen just wrote this op-ed.
[00:25:41]  I'm a doctor.
[00:25:42]  Whoa.
[00:25:44]  Here's why my kids won't wear masks at school this year.
[00:25:49]  And she goes and talks on virtue signals about how she never goes outside without her N95 and all this nonsense.
[00:25:54]  But then she talks about how masks have actually begun to impede her child's linguistic and language development.
[00:26:06]  She then says this: the most extraordinary thing.
[00:26:09]  Again, she was the COVIDian lockdown architect.
[00:26:13]  If you said this two years ago, we did, you were considered to be a proliferator of hate speech.
[00:26:21]  She says, I accept the risk that my kids will probably contract COVID-19 this school year, just as they contract the flu, respiratory synthocatal virus, and other contagious diseases.
[00:26:35]  Wait a second.
[00:26:36]  You're now saying that RSV and the flu are equivalent to COVID?
[00:26:41]  If you used to say that, you used to get kicked off social media.
[00:26:44]  Now you get published in the Washington Post.
[00:26:47]  As for most Americans, COVID in our family will almost certainly be mild.
[00:26:51]  Oh, really?
[00:26:53]  Then why is it, Dr. Liana Wen, you said this, that we should treat unvaccinated people like DUIs, play CUT 25.
[00:27:04]  To start looking at the choice to remain unvaccinated, the same as we look at driving while intoxicated, that you have the option to not get vaccinated if you want, but then you can't go out in public.
[00:27:16]  Because when you go out in public, you have the potential of infecting other people with a potentially deadly disease.
[00:27:23]  Yeah, we should treat it like a DUI.
[00:27:25]  How about CUT 24 when Dr. Leanna Wen said that people should not be able to fly if they're vaccinated?
[00:27:31]  Play Cut 24.
[00:27:32]  Travel and having the right to travel interstate, it's not a constitutional right as far as I know to board a plane.
[00:27:41]  And so saying that if you want to stay unvaccinated, that's your choice.
[00:27:45]  But if you want to travel, you better go get that vaccine.
[00:27:49]  She continues by saying, masking has harmed our son's language development and has limited both kids' extracurriculars and social interactions, which would negatively affect their childhood and hinder my and Maya husband's, mine and Maya husband's ability to work.
[00:28:11]  She was the architect of having mask mandates in your child's school.
[00:28:16]  And now she's saying, oh, by the way, my child now has language development problems.
[00:28:20]  Yeah, no kidding.
[00:28:22]  Now here's the way this worked.
[00:28:24]  We, the Charlie Kirk Show and Turning Point USA at many corners were banned and penalized on social media for saying this because they said we were spreading COVID misinformation.
[00:28:40]  So you go from being labeled as spreading COVID misinformation and COVID disinformation to now publishing it in the Washington Post.
[00:28:55]  It's quite a regression, isn't it?
[00:28:58]  We were called murderers and super spreaders for now the same language that Dr. Liana Wen now says in the Washington Post is it's all a matter of trade-offs and risks.
[00:29:09]  We've been saying that the entire time.
[00:29:11]  This was never about COVID.
[00:29:12]  It was about the great reset.
[00:29:14]  Destroy the currency, open the borders, eradicate Western civilization for a broader purpose.
[00:29:19]  And COVID was a means to that end.
[00:29:23]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:29:24]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:29:27]  Thanks so much for listening.
[00:29:28]  God bless.
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