The Charlie Kirk Show - Last Week Changed My Life
Aired: 2022-08-29
Duration: 38:33


=== A Transformational Week (05:58) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, it's in the Charlie Kirk Show Week that changed my life.
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[00:01:29]  Hey, everybody.
[00:01:31]  Well, I'm back.
[00:01:32]  Thank you guys for watching last week.
[00:01:35]  We deeply appreciate it, as always.
[00:01:38]  Jack Pesobic did an amazing job filling in.
[00:01:41]  I'm going to tell you why I was off last week.
[00:01:45]  I know a lot of different people were messaging us, and we appreciate your support of the show.
[00:01:49]  And again, Jack did so great.
[00:01:51]  So, you know, last week was a week that changed my life.
[00:01:57]  And, you know, in a world where everything is put on social media, where everything is constantly being posted and being talked about, we made a decision, my wife and I, to keep one thing rather private.
[00:02:11]  And I'll tell you, it was not easy.
[00:02:13]  This was one of the more difficult things I think I've ever had to do.
[00:02:18]  Not just keep it private and keep it something secret, but also just kind of go through, you know, the process of all of that.
[00:02:25]  And so outside of some close family and friends, my wife, Erica, and I, we decided not to tell the world that she was pregnant.
[00:02:32]  And we did that for a variety of reasons, some being security and also just being that, you know, it's not about social media.
[00:02:40]  It's not about the millions of people that might talk about it and to get likes and to get shares and all of that.
[00:02:46]  And so last week, we welcomed our beautiful daughter into the world.
[00:02:50]  And I could tell you, I mean, many of you are in the audience and your parents and grandparents.
[00:02:56]  Everyone who says it's life-changing, exactly, I mean, it's beyond transformational.
[00:03:01]  It's when you look down in your arms and you see your child, all of a sudden, everything you're fighting for, everything that you care about, everything that you are pushing forward gets into absolute clarity almost instantaneously and immediately.
[00:03:19]  It puts the entire fight of what we're doing here on the Charlie Kirk show and at Turning Point USA in an entirely new perspective.
[00:03:27]  And it was without a doubt the most transformational moment of my life.
[00:03:32]  And boy, does it make you want to defeat the bad guys more than ever and to continue to fight for what is beautiful and what is good and what is true.
[00:03:43]  And, you know, again, we looking back at this, and I'm not one to give advice to people on this.
[00:03:50]  I do say, though, there was something so special about in a world where almost everything I do is public.
[00:03:55]  What is Charlie wearing?
[00:03:56]  What is Charlie saying?
[00:03:57]  What is Charlie doing?
[00:03:59]  That this one element of our life we were able to kind of keep private, and it's not private anymore.
[00:04:05]  And I just want to say, Erica did the most amazing job last week.
[00:04:09]  We will tell that story eventually.
[00:04:13]  Definitely took a scenic route towards delivery.
[00:04:17]  She did so amazing, and she's a hero.
[00:04:20]  And we'll tell that story in due time.
[00:04:22]  But it's been the most incredible week in more ways than one.
[00:04:26]  And, you know, just beyond transformational.
[00:04:29]  I didn't get a lot of sleep for a couple days.
[00:04:32]  Sleep deprivation is a very real thing.
[00:04:36]  If I ever wanted to confuse somebody and get them not exactly sure which way is up or down, sleep deprivation is definitely a way to do that.
[00:04:44]  But we're rested now.
[00:04:45]  We've had some amazing support.
[00:04:47]  And I just want to thank all of you in the audience for your prayers and for your remarkable backing of this program and our movement.
[00:04:57]  And again, it's just something for those of you out there that are saying, oh, I don't know if I'm going to wait before I have kids, you should just go right into it.
[00:05:05]  You should.
[00:05:06]  It's just something that will make your life enhanced in such a beautiful and a profound way.
[00:05:13]  And the work that we're doing at Turning Point USA, the work we're doing at Turning Point Action, the work we're doing on the front lines matters more than ever before.
[00:05:21]  So thank you guys for allowing us to take a week off.
[00:05:24]  I could tell you, I know some of you were emailing me at freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:05:27]  Charlie, I hope you're getting a very restful week off.
[00:05:30]  I can tell you this: it was not a restful week off, but it was the most transformational week of my life.
[00:05:37]  And it is a stimulus and a shot in the arm where you say, We're going to defeat these bad guys.
[00:05:44]  We are going to win this.
[00:05:47]  And I'm going to have more commentary on that because there is an interesting through line that the bad guys that we are fighting have a disproportionate amount of them that are childless.

=== The Post-January Blitzkrieg (06:53) ===

[00:05:59]  That's a separate issue for a different time.
[00:06:01]  But God bless you guys.
[00:06:02]  And yes, I'd love all of your parents' advice, parental advice, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:06:08]  That is freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:06:10]  Okay, there's so much news that I'm going to get to.
[00:06:13]  I know someone just emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:06:16]  They said, Charlie, are you going to allow your child to choose their gender?
[00:06:21]  No.
[00:06:22]  Our child is a girl.
[00:06:24]  That's it.
[00:06:25]  So there's so much news to get to here.
[00:06:28]  And it's interesting when you take a week off, and again, it wasn't exactly a week off, and you get a chance to look at all the news at a 35,000-foot view.
[00:06:38]  You get to see kind of what people are saying about the specific news and what you think is missing.
[00:06:44]  And so I want to start with the piece of news that broke in the last couple of days, which is we are living through a preemptive coup, a preemptive palace coup, preemptive palace revolution.
[00:06:55]  A palace revolution is where a group of people in the ruling class make a deliberate and concerted campaign to try and remove somebody that's either duly elected or had a position of power or authority.
[00:07:09]  We saw this with Crossfire Hurricane.
[00:07:12]  We saw this with the abuse of the FISA court.
[00:07:14]  And we've talked in great detail here on this program about the power of the fourth branch of government, the unelected, unknown, unchecked power of the bureaucracies.
[00:07:25]  And if the bureaucracies are not given proper oversight, they create almost a shadow government within itself.
[00:07:34]  That is something we call the deep state.
[00:07:36]  We call it all of these different sorts of terms, but it's been very clear in the last couple of days.
[00:07:41]  Knew this on this program, but now we have in transparent with transparent evidence that this shadow government, this fourth branch of government, they are now embarking on a very risky campaign to displace a president, a candidate, a former president from being in the conversation or the ability to run for office at all in any way, shape, or form.
[00:08:11]  So, post-January 6th, we have to take a step back here.
[00:08:15]  Post-January 6th, the American ruling class, the FBI, the CIA, Brennan, Liz Cheney, they thought they had our movement dead to rights.
[00:08:24]  Post-January 6th, they thought that we were going to surrender, we were going to fracture, that Donald Trump's support was going to evaporate and erode.
[00:08:34]  Post-January 6th, they thought they had control of the House, the Senate, the presidency, that there was not going to be this incredibly energetic, grassroots-focused movement.
[00:08:48]  And they were, of course, wrong.
[00:08:49]  We've been covering this in great detail on our program from the school boards, the moms and dads, the curriculum fights, the rise of the Parents' Party, Glenn Youngkin's victory in Virginia, the displacing of the San Francisco district attorney, that the ruling class actually created a counter movement bigger than anything they could have ever possibly imagined.
[00:09:09]  The 18-month blitzkrieg from January to now has boomeranged, and they know that.
[00:09:18]  You see, they tried their infrastructure plan.
[00:09:20]  They tried using the FBI and the DOJ to spy on moms and dads going to school board meetings, and all of it only fed the fire.
[00:09:30]  It fed the movement to grow stronger.
[00:09:33]  And so the people have never been more focused.
[00:09:37]  They've never been more determined, all of us together to get the bad guys out of power, to have a check on the fourth branch of government.
[00:09:44]  And the ruling regime, the people that actually run our country from Facebook, we're going to get to that, Google, FBI, the CIA, they know that their time is up.
[00:09:56]  So they have to make a move.
[00:09:59]  The moves they made prior only made us stronger.
[00:10:02]  We call that anti-fragility here on this program.
[00:10:07]  Meaning the more they attack us, the more they smear us, the more they condemn us, the stronger we become.
[00:10:15]  So the focus of the machine has been now to take Trump off the chess table immediately.
[00:10:22]  It's incredibly transparent.
[00:10:24]  Some people disagree at this.
[00:10:25]  They say, oh, Charlie, they're not going to indict Donald Trump.
[00:10:29]  I now totally disagree at that.
[00:10:30]  I think they're going for it.
[00:10:32]  This is their big move.
[00:10:33]  Now, I'm not saying Trump did anything wrong.
[00:10:34]  In fact, the opposite.
[00:10:35]  Trump did everything right.
[00:10:37]  But if you show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
[00:10:39]  As Cicero said, he says, the more laws, the less justice.
[00:10:43]  What does that mean?
[00:10:43]  What would a one-year Roman counsel, who was one of the first stoic philosophers to say, the more laws, less justice?
[00:10:51]  What does that mean?
[00:10:52]  It means that if you have all of these laws on the books and you control the administration and the enforcement of the laws, I can put anyone I don't like in prison.
[00:11:03]  So Donald Trump is the figurehead of this nationalist, bottom-up parents' party movement.
[00:11:11]  And the machine is now getting into a desperate mode of operation.
[00:11:18]  It's a very, very, very risky thing they're embarking on.
[00:11:22]  But it's transparently clear what they're doing, which is, again, the affidavit was a complete joke.
[00:11:27]  And we're going to get into that and my take on it.
[00:11:30]  But they are now focused on taking Donald Trump off the chess table.
[00:11:34]  Now, you might say, well, Charlie, they've been focused on that for quite some time.
[00:11:37]  You know, they've wanted to, no, this is different.
[00:11:40]  They're going for it.
[00:11:42]  They think they have a window of opportunity, and they believe that if they don't do this, that our movement is going to take over everything for a long period of time.
[00:11:52]  And they're right.
[00:11:54]  Now, they have a very low percentage chance of pulling this off.
[00:11:59]  In order to pull this off, they will have to successfully and convincingly indict Donald Trump, convict him, start a MAGA civil war, and then have us all of a sudden completely and totally give up.
[00:12:12]  But we must understand, they are running out of tools at their disposal to be able to stop our movement.
[00:12:19]  They've tried everything: social media banning, smearing, shadow banning.
[00:12:26]  They've tried everything.
[00:12:27]  And yet, Latinos are now defecting in the conservative direction in record numbers.
[00:12:32]  We're winning school board races all across the country.
[00:12:35]  Voter registration numbers are going in the Republican direction in huge numbers.
[00:12:40]  What do they have left?
[00:12:42]  A palace revolution.
[00:12:43]  Take the figurehead off the chess table.
[00:12:46]  Now, some of you might say, well, Charlie, our movement is larger and greater than Trump.

=== Mishandling the Indictment (08:16) ===

[00:12:52]  I agree with that.
[00:12:54]  But their strategy now is a two-step move.
[00:12:56]  The regime now has a two-step move, which is displace and remove Donald Trump, take him off the chess table, indict him on some sort of paperwork crime, which we're going to talk about what I think their path forward is because it was articulated.
[00:13:11]  They put forward the entire indictment in the New York Times this weekend.
[00:13:14]  The entire indictment was right there in the New York Times.
[00:13:18]  And then the second one is then to try to sow and foment a MAGA civil war where the warring tribes are not able to find a consensus of how to move forward and they're able to dominate elections, not because they're popular, but because they have sowed rancor and division in our ranks.
[00:13:36]  It is a two-step move that we're seeing in front of us right now.
[00:13:39]  We're going to get into this.
[00:13:40]  I want your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:13:42]  By the way, I'm loving all of your parenting advice, freedom at charliekirk.com.
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[00:15:02]  I want to get into, I want to keep on getting into this here.
[00:15:05]  It's very important.
[00:15:05]  And again, some of it I'm playing catch up on last week's news because obviously I was out.
[00:15:11]  But this is a preemptive move.
[00:15:12]  This is the most desperate move of the regime.
[00:15:15]  It's transparent what they are doing.
[00:15:17]  And you could see it very clearly in the New York Times.
[00:15:21]  The New York Times, they wrote this long piece over the weekend, basically laying out the intellectual case, their supposed pseudo-intellectual case for an indictment.
[00:15:37]  And The New York Times, they're very, they love I Told You Sos.
[00:15:45]  They love being able to write something and being able to say, look, as we said a couple months ago, we were right about this.
[00:15:51]  We were very clear about why Donald Trump needs to be indicted, all this nonsense.
[00:15:56]  So they wrote this piece.
[00:15:58]  And again, I don't make a habit out of covering the New York Times too much, but this piece is not a mistake.
[00:16:04]  Donald Trump is not above the law by the editorial board.
[00:16:08]  Now, the New York Times wrote this piece probably in collusion and in coordination with the FBI, with the Justice Department, with people, prosecutors.
[00:16:20]  The New York Times can be best compared to metaphorically to a fullback or to a snowplow or to kind of a force forward to try to pave the way for a coming or a looming indictment.
[00:16:35]  You see, the New York Times operates to move the Overton window.
[00:16:40]  Remember, the Overton window is a spectrum of what is once deemed unthinkable to eventually what is acceptable to then what is popular.
[00:16:47]  The Overton window moved on issues like marijuana, moved on issues such as defund the police, which was once considered to be unthinkable, is even popular in certain communities, not that many.
[00:16:59]  So the New York Times writes this article to try to move the Overton window to try to prime the pump for a grand jury they're trying to impanel.
[00:17:08]  Now, I know some of you might say, Charlie, none of this is new.
[00:17:11]  We know they're trying to get Trump.
[00:17:12]  No, this is very important because we're going to go a step deeper because this impacts the midterms right now.
[00:17:18]  I think Republicans are mishandling this.
[00:17:20]  And I think it is so transparent what's happening in front of us.
[00:17:23]  And then if we do not make certain moves and countermoves right in the next couple of days, we're going to be dealing from a deficit and what should be a red wave will become a red ripple.
[00:17:35]  And I'm going to tell you what I think Donald Trump needs to do.
[00:17:38]  So the New York Times writes this article, Donald Trump is not above the law.
[00:17:41]  I read this entire piece.
[00:17:41]  I won't read the whole thing on air, but I'm just going to read the first paragraph.
[00:17:44]  The first paragraph is essentially a soft indictment.
[00:17:48]  You see, this was likely done with a prosecutor winking and nodding and saying, we need a little bit of intellectual backing.
[00:17:55]  We need some PR support.
[00:17:57]  And they said this.
[00:17:58]  The New York Times writes, over the course of the summer, the nation has been transfixed by the House Select Committees on the events of January 6th, 2021.
[00:18:08]  So let me pause there.
[00:18:11]  I reread this line like four times last night.
[00:18:15]  And I had to look up the meaning of the word transfix, not because that I didn't know it.
[00:18:19]  I couldn't believe that they would use that word.
[00:18:22]  Transfixed, according to the dictionary, just so we're clear, caused someone to become motionless with horror, wonder, or astonishment.
[00:18:30]  Did you have that feeling with the January 6th committee?
[00:18:33]  That's the New York Times.
[00:18:34]  Over the course of the summer, the nation has been transfixed by the House Select Committee hearings on the events of January 6th and how or whether Donald Trump might face accountability for what happened that day.
[00:18:48]  The Justice Department remained largely silent about its investigations of the former president until this month when the FBI searched his home.
[00:18:56]  No, they didn't search his home.
[00:18:58]  They raided his home.
[00:18:59]  It was a full-fledged occupation.
[00:19:01]  Anyway, the New York Times continues.
[00:19:03]  In a case related to the handling of classified documents, the spectacle of a former president facing criminal investigation raises profound questions about American democracy.
[00:19:15]  We're not.
[00:19:15]  We're a republic.
[00:19:16]  And these questions demand answers.
[00:19:20]  The New York Times continues and finishes the piece.
[00:19:22]  They say this.
[00:19:22]  This is just so incredible.
[00:19:24]  They say Cassidy Hutchinson, a top aide to Mr. Trump's last chief of staff, Mark Meadows, provided powerful evidence that could be used to charge Mr. Trump with seditious conspiracy.
[00:19:37]  Did we watch the same thing as Cassidy Hutchinson?
[00:19:40]  No, it's so outrageous what they're writing in the New York Times.
[00:19:43]  It is so over the top.
[00:19:45]  It is so ridiculous.
[00:19:46]  Just understand.
[00:19:47]  Seditious conspiracy is a crime which is conspiring against the authority of the legitimacy of the state, punishable potentially by death.
[00:19:57]  Cassidy Hutchinson, who said completely and totally baselessly, that Donald Trump grabbed the steering wheel of the beast, that he might be able to be charged with seditious conspiracy.
[00:20:12]  No, the New York Times is very, very careful what they're doing here.
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=== Risks Within the Movement (15:42) ===

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[00:21:14]  I want to give a shout out to our entire team on the Charlie Kirk show and just kind of at Turning Point USA for the very few of them that knew Erica was pregnant.
[00:21:24]  The ability to maneuver with vagueness and abstractions in the last couple of weeks to give excuses that I couldn't do things was rather remarkable.
[00:21:33]  I just said we don't.
[00:21:34]  We want this to be private and to be secret.
[00:21:36]  And in a world where everything you do is publicized for where you tweet and what happens, to have one little corner of something that was just our own was very, very special.
[00:21:46]  So thank you to all of you and thank you to the wonderful tech team.
[00:21:48]  Okay, so the entire New York Times article was written and crafted to try to sway a grand jury.
[00:21:56]  But this is not even about Trump.
[00:21:58]  This is much bigger than Trump.
[00:22:01]  This is about the entire movement.
[00:22:04]  So we must understand that when they sit around a conference table, you have Merrick Garland, you have the FBI, Christopher Wray, you have all the Democrat operatives, they see finally what we have been forecasting, what we have been predicting, and what we have been hoping for.
[00:22:25]  They see a once-in-a-generation realignment.
[00:22:29]  They're not totally dumb.
[00:22:33]  I'd say some of them are pretty unbelievably ignorant, but in some sense, it's almost as if the architects of the 2020 election scheme are now back in charge.
[00:22:44]  So this is our working theory here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:22:47]  Our working theory is that there was a cabal of pseudo-criminals that orchestrated a perfectly precise plan in the 2020 election.
[00:22:58]  Lockdowns, fear, death counts on television, blaming Trump, mass mail in ballots, mules, drop boxes.
[00:23:07]  2020 was planned perfectly from their perspective.
[00:23:13]  And the people behind that were Mark Elias and many others, as Miss Ball wrote in Time magazine, the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.
[00:23:24]  And it seemed as if that kind of cabal, they worked very hard at it.
[00:23:28]  They got it done.
[00:23:30]  They implemented one of the most unpopular, incompetent, incoherent human beings as president.
[00:23:36]  It's rather amazing when you think about it.
[00:23:38]  To implement someone that can't draw a couple dozen people as a rally as president, you want to talk about a palace revolution.
[00:23:46]  They overturned, they ran over the will of the people with all of these different instruments.
[00:23:54]  And then January 6th happened.
[00:23:57]  And the working theory I have is Mark Elias and all these people kind of took some time off.
[00:24:02]  They didn't stop doing what they were doing, but they started to get other work.
[00:24:04]  They started to get rich.
[00:24:05]  They started to enjoy some of the, let's say, trappings of having the House, the Senate, and the presidency.
[00:24:11]  I believe the cabal that orchestrated 2020 is now back in charge of the Democrat Party.
[00:24:18]  It's almost as if the kids were running the House, the teenagers were running around for the last 18 months.
[00:24:23]  Green New Deal, infrastructure plan, all these different insane ideas, defund the police, men can become pregnant.
[00:24:30]  Have you noticed Democrats have become a lot better at lying about their messaging on television advertisements recently?
[00:24:36]  And again, I live here in Arizona.
[00:24:38]  We'll talk a lot about the Arizona elections.
[00:24:40]  The Mark Kelly advertisements are phenomenal.
[00:24:43]  They're deceitful.
[00:24:44]  They're well crafted.
[00:24:46]  They seem moderate.
[00:24:47]  They seem common sense.
[00:24:49]  They're well shot.
[00:24:50]  If you didn't know better, you would think Mark Kelly was a moderate Republican.
[00:24:55]  The same cabal that orchestrated 2020, I believe, is now back into gear, going through a plan.
[00:25:03]  But I think there's some disagreement in the ranks of the Democrats.
[00:25:07]  Remember, their entire currency, they judge their success based on how much power they have.
[00:25:16]  And the fact that there's going to be this tsunami inevitably, potentially inevitably, in November, bothers them and worries them.
[00:25:23]  So they're wargaming.
[00:25:24]  How do we potentially prevent this from happening?
[00:25:27]  And the New York Times tells us what they're going to do.
[00:25:32]  It says this in the New York Times.
[00:25:35]  Again, the New York Times is read by all these prosecutors.
[00:25:38]  It's read by all of the inner workings of the Department of Justice.
[00:25:42]  It is the top of the tributary.
[00:25:44]  To give you an idea, for those of you that watch Fox News, but I'll give you an even better example.
[00:25:50]  Remember when Rush Limbaugh, for example, put forward Operation Chaos?
[00:25:56]  I think that's what it was called, where he said we should switch over in the Democrat Party and we should vote in the Democrat Party for Hillary so that we could stop Barack Obama.
[00:26:04]  I'm butchering some of the details.
[00:26:05]  It went everywhere.
[00:26:06]  When Rush Limbaugh or when Tucker Carlson looks to the camera and gives you a well-scripted argument that is a little bit out there, our base listens.
[00:26:17]  We stop what we're doing and say, oh, wow, that's the power of the New York Times.
[00:26:22]  The New York Times is that to the left as Rush Limbaugh was for 30 years to the right.
[00:26:26]  When Rush Limbaugh talks, you stop your car and pull over to the side of the street.
[00:26:30]  At least for me, when Rush Limbaugh was on, I would delay appointments.
[00:26:34]  I'd say, I have to call you back.
[00:26:36]  When Rush Limbaugh was on, I would design my schedule, especially when there was some breaking news.
[00:26:42]  When Bob Mueller, I would listen to Rush every single day during the Mueller investigation, during the 2016 election, every day, because we kind of needed that North Star.
[00:26:50]  We needed that guiding light.
[00:26:53]  That's what the New York Times is to the left.
[00:26:55]  To give you an idea, I know for you, you think the New York Times, whatever, is just another rag.
[00:26:59]  That's not correct for the left.
[00:27:03]  They orient their direction, their compass, based on what the New York Times tells them is considerable and acceptable, especially when it's the editorial board.
[00:27:15]  And that's what happened.
[00:27:16]  So the editorial board, the people that run the entire New York Times philosophical direction, says, quote, no one should revel in the prospect of this or any former president facing criminal prosecution.
[00:27:30]  Mr. Trump's actions have brought shame on one of the world's oldest democracies.
[00:27:36]  Again, we're not a democracy.
[00:27:36]  Do you see how important it is to define our terms?
[00:27:38]  Because then you allow these charlatans to just get out of control and destabilize its future.
[00:27:45]  Even justice before the law will not erase that stain, nor will prosecuting Mr. Trump fix the structural problems that led to the greatest crisis in American democracy since the Civil War.
[00:27:59]  To give you an idea of the argument they're making, they're making that our elections are going through a greater crisis than poll taxes and Jim Crow segregation.
[00:28:08]  That's their current argument.
[00:28:10]  But then the New York Times, and this is the total tell, everybody, they tell you what they're doing.
[00:28:14]  Their game plan is right here.
[00:28:17]  But it is a necessary first step towards doing so.
[00:28:25]  This is not the end game.
[00:28:26]  They write in the New York Times.
[00:28:30]  It is a necessary first step.
[00:28:33]  This is the first step towards what they believe is how to stop your voice, silence your activism, shut you up, and make you obey.
[00:28:43]  They would not do this.
[00:28:45]  This is the good news, everybody.
[00:28:47]  Some people are emailing us, Charlie, this is so incredibly depressing.
[00:28:50]  Well, it really isn't, actually.
[00:28:51]  It's honest.
[00:28:54]  If you can't handle it, then there's that.
[00:28:57]  We can get that old Jack Nicholas.
[00:28:59]  Nicholas can't handle the truth.
[00:29:03]  Pretty simple, pretty clear.
[00:29:05]  The good news is this, though.
[00:29:07]  All they have left are moves by small groups of powerful people.
[00:29:14]  That's it.
[00:29:15]  That's all they have left in their quiver.
[00:29:18]  They have emptied their cartridge.
[00:29:22]  They got nothing left.
[00:29:24]  They're not winning public opinion.
[00:29:26]  Their policies are deeply unpopular.
[00:29:30]  We are the ones that are filling up auditoriums.
[00:29:32]  We're the ones that are registering voters.
[00:29:33]  We're the ones that are on the front lines.
[00:29:35]  All they have left are these games.
[00:29:38]  And if they think for a second that indicting Donald Trump is going to all of a sudden make us give up or surrender, I think it will have the opposite effect.
[00:29:53]  But I will say that doesn't mean we should be hoping for it.
[00:29:57]  Because for some of you out there, we just got an email here: freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:30:00]  Let them indict Trump.
[00:30:02]  It will be a good thing for us.
[00:30:05]  I think we can make it a good thing, but there's also a layer of risk within them indicting Trump that I think could unnecessarily create a power struggle on the right.
[00:30:17]  Having a clear person in charge, for the time being, of the MAGA movement is very important.
[00:30:26]  The MAGA movement has not yet finished settling in.
[00:30:31]  It takes at least a decade for a movement to become permanent.
[00:30:34]  Let me say that again.
[00:30:35]  It takes a decade for a political movement to become permanent.
[00:30:38]  Otherwise, it's just a flash in the pan.
[00:30:40]  Tea Party, done.
[00:30:41]  Occupy Wall Street, done.
[00:30:42]  For a political movement to become permanent, it has to finish kind of settling in to the roots and it has to metastasize both vertically and horizontally throughout the entire culture.
[00:30:54]  We're close to that, by the way.
[00:30:56]  We're just a couple years out.
[00:30:59]  And so we need a little bit more time.
[00:31:01]  Otherwise, if they indict Trump, it will give oxygen, it will give basis for the McConnells and the establishment Republicans of the world to say, I told you so, time to move on.
[00:31:12]  We're going to suck up all the money.
[00:31:14]  All their candidates are marred by a felon who endorsed them.
[00:31:17]  We will make a positive out of that, totally, but we should not invite it.
[00:31:22]  We shouldn't want it.
[00:31:23]  It would be messy and it would create some bedlam on our side.
[00:31:28]  This is all they have left.
[00:31:31]  Remember, Donald Trump got five points more popular after the raid, five points more popular.
[00:31:37]  And so it really kind of begs the question, and I want your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:31:42]  Should Donald Trump announce for president right now?
[00:31:45]  You might say, why would he do that?
[00:31:46]  Well, according to guidelines by the DOJ, active presidential candidates or active candidates are treated at a different threshold and standard because they don't want to act as if they're doing election interference.
[00:31:57]  And of course, again, one of the most extraordinary clips is Mark Zuckerberg coming out and admitting that the Federal Bureau of Investigation back channels with major social media companies to be able to manipulate the spread of information.
[00:32:13]  So the question is, do you think it's good for the movement right now if Donald Trump announces for president?
[00:32:19]  Just gets out of the gate, says, if you're going to indict me, you have to indict the entire movement.
[00:32:23]  I got to be honest, I'm coming around to this argument.
[00:32:27]  The only card, in my opinion, Donald Trump has left to play, the only card he has left to play for the sake of our movement, before the decade comes in, the decade comes and it settles in.
[00:32:37]  If you study American history, if you study political history, it takes a decade for a political movement to have permanence.
[00:32:42]  We are not there.
[00:32:43]  They know that, by the way, civil rights movement, decade before it really got powerful.
[00:32:48]  The civil rights movement just wasn't, okay, here we have it.
[00:32:50]  No, it took a decade before they got the Civil Rights Act passed.
[00:32:54]  Do you think Donald Trump should announce for president?
[00:32:58]  I'm coming around to the argument because our movement, I want it to have durability.
[00:33:02]  I want it to have shelf life.
[00:33:04]  I do not want to go back to the ruling elite of McConnell and Paul Ryan and Boehner.
[00:33:10]  And if he gets indicted, it does put that in jeopardy.
[00:33:13]  I think we can survive it.
[00:33:15]  Most movements get derailed.
[00:33:18]  Occupy Wall Street, BLM, Me Too, Tea Party Movement, Reagan Revolution, Goldwater.
[00:33:25]  Movements easily get derailed.
[00:33:27]  And they believe they can derail it by taking out the figurehead himself.
[00:33:33]  This is an amazing clip.
[00:33:34]  I don't know if he planned to do this.
[00:33:36]  This is the brilliance of Joe Rogan.
[00:33:38]  By the way, we get emails every once in a while.
[00:33:40]  Charlie, why do you like Joe Rogan?
[00:33:42]  He bashes on Trump and he does all this stuff.
[00:33:45]  Just press a little pause here, okay?
[00:33:47]  Joe Rogan is super influential.
[00:33:49]  He's not a leftist.
[00:33:50]  He does love freedom.
[00:33:51]  I disagree with him on a wide variety of issues.
[00:33:54]  But he literally said to Aaron Rodgers, reigning MVP of the National Football League yesterday, the way that we need to send a message to the COVID-19 lockdown people is vote Republican.
[00:34:06]  So you're going to have to agree with everybody to understand that Joe Rogan has talent.
[00:34:12]  Joe Rogan has a following.
[00:34:14]  And Joe Rogan has an unbelievable skill.
[00:34:17]  I have to say, Joe Rogan's skill is to get very powerful people to forget they're on camera.
[00:34:25]  Cut 13, Joe Rogan interviewing Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook, censoring the Hunter Biden story, play cut 13.
[00:34:32]  I mean, basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, like you should be on high alert.
[00:34:43]  We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election.
[00:34:47]  We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that.
[00:34:56]  So just be vigilant.
[00:34:57]  So when you say the distribution has decreased, it got shared.
[00:35:01]  How does that work?
[00:35:02]  It basically the ranking in newsfeed was a little bit less.
[00:35:05]  So fewer people saw it than would have otherwise.
[00:35:08]  So it definitely, by what percentage?
[00:35:11]  I don't know off the top of my head, but it's meaningful.
[00:35:15]  Now, it's meaningful.
[00:35:17]  What did he just say?
[00:35:19]  We're talking about in clear terms that the Federal Bureau of Investigation showed up to Facebook and said, hey, there's all this Russian disinformation out there.
[00:35:35]  There's all of this nonsense happening out there.
[00:35:38]  You should probably censor this Hunter Biden laptop story.
[00:35:41]  That's what they were talking about.
[00:35:43]  The FBI visits the channels of social media, the places where decisions are made about politics, where information is spread, and the FBI back channeled to social media companies so significantly that Mark Zuckerberg was made aware of it and said, you should probably suppress this story.
[00:36:04]  I want you to think about that.
[00:36:05]  If that is not direct election interference, what is?
[00:36:08]  The FBI has now been, it has now transparently been revealed that they go and visit the channels of communication and manipulate what should be spread and what should not be spread.
[00:36:21]  Whoa.
[00:36:23]  And yet the most, and I love Joe Rogan, he just didn't follow up on this perfectly.
[00:36:27]  He did pretty well.
[00:36:29]  There's two questions that weren't asked, which is: number one, is this still happening?
[00:36:37]  Is the FBI interfering in the midterm election?
[00:36:40]  Is the FBI showing up to social media companies right now?
[00:36:45]  Is the FBI trying to prevent stories about how young kids are being exposed to Drag Queen Story?

=== Questions About Interference (01:41) ===

[00:36:51]  I do have some evidence of that, but is the FBI doing that?
[00:36:53]  We don't know.
[00:36:54]  Is the FBI showing up saying it's Russian disinformation to say Democrats want open borders?
[00:37:01]  Is that going on right now?
[00:37:03]  Because there's, and by the way, the other question is, that's the first question.
[00:37:06]  The second question, which is less important, but it's more important, it's more, it's critical for just a broader perspective, which is, how long have they been doing this?
[00:37:15]  How many other stories has the FBI showed up to Facebook and said, hey, you got to censor this?
[00:37:22]  That the FBI has basically created a backdoor pass to control Facebook.
[00:37:30]  That's what was just revealed right there.
[00:37:32]  That if the Bureau doesn't like a story, if something is not trending the way they like it, then the FBI becomes the Federal Bureau of Election Interference.
[00:37:42]  The New York Times article is very, very clear.
[00:37:47]  The New York Times article says that they need to indict Donald Trump, but they have a two-step move.
[00:37:53]  We're now living through a two-step move.
[00:37:54]  Take out the leader, create a mega civil war.
[00:37:57]  I don't think it's that simple.
[00:37:58]  I don't think it's that clear.
[00:38:00]  The only move Donald Trump has left, for those of you that want to see Donald Trump become president again, he needs to announce for president right now.
[00:38:07]  That's his only move left.
[00:38:09]  If he doesn't, he could be convicted, become a felon, and not be allowed to serve as president of the United States.
[00:38:19]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:38:20]  Email me your thoughts.
[00:38:21]  It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:38:23]  Thanks so much for listening.
[00:38:24]  God bless.
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