The Charlie Kirk Show - Queer Theory and the Abolition of Normal with James Lindsay LIVE from SAS
Aired: 2022-08-13
Duration: 26:44


=== Destroying The Concept Of Normal (14:36) ===

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[00:00:50]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:00:52]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
[00:00:54]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:00:57]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:01:00]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:01:01]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:01:02]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:01:11]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:20]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:22]  With me is Dr. James Lindsay.
[00:01:25]  He is extraordinary.
[00:01:27]  Dr. Lindsay is the world's expert on all things, critical race theory, postmodernism, queer theory, all of these ideas that are being put in the classroom.
[00:01:39]  He is an expert on it.
[00:01:41]  And so we're going to go deep in this conversation.
[00:01:43]  We're going to get into the philosophical roots of what is destroying our country.
[00:01:47]  And Dr. Lindsay is the author of two books, Race Marxism, and also Cynical Theories with Dr. Pluck Rose.
[00:01:55]  James, welcome back to SAS.
[00:01:58]  Thanks for having me, Charlie.
[00:01:59]  It's fun to be at your right.
[00:02:01]  Exactly.
[00:02:02]  That's right.
[00:02:03]  James used to say he was a liberal, but I don't know if that's the case anymore.
[00:02:08]  So James, walk our audience through.
[00:02:10]  Let's just start with the basics.
[00:02:11]  What is critical race theory and what is so dangerous about it?
[00:02:16]  Critical race theory is a disaster.
[00:02:19]  To paraphrase the president, critical race theory is calling everything you want to control racist until you control it.
[00:02:26]  It's really that simple.
[00:02:28]  It is the idea that the organizing principle of society is racism, created by white people to benefit white people.
[00:02:35]  And everything in society is organized to operate around that.
[00:02:38]  So what you are dealing with then is a Marxist theory of race, which is why I called the book Race Marxism.
[00:02:43]  Yeah, so why is it so dangerous?
[00:02:45]  The critics will say we need to be anti-racist.
[00:02:49]  Why shouldn't we teach our five-year-old about race?
[00:02:52]  I mean, so this is the thing.
[00:02:53]  I actually just got harassed by a journalist from the Daily Dot.
[00:02:57]  We'll call it journalist from the Daily Dot, who was saying, well, why shouldn't we educate our kids about LGBTQ people existing?
[00:03:04]  And it was like, you're misusing, first of all, you're talking about the wrong subject.
[00:03:07]  And second of all, you're misusing the word educate.
[00:03:09]  The goal isn't actually to educate five-year-olds or anybody about race or to become an actual person against racism, which is what you would think anti-racism means.
[00:03:17]  It means that you're going to become a revolutionary for their cause.
[00:03:20]  And what's so dangerous about teaching five-year-olds to be revolutionaries is that they grow up.
[00:03:24]  Like Vladimir Lenin said many years ago, about 100 years ago, that if you give me your child for four years, I'll plant a seed so deep you'll never pull it out when it grows.
[00:03:34]  So the danger of teaching our kids about race the way they want to teach kids about race, not to teach kids about race, period, is that you're going to turn them into revolutionaries whose goal is that when somebody like George Floyd dies on TV, they're going to take to the streets and start destroying cities.
[00:03:48]  That's the objective.
[00:03:49]  Yeah, and so, James, they'll say, though, that racism is normative.
[00:03:54]  Everybody is racist, and we just don't know it.
[00:03:57]  What is so wrong about that presupposition?
[00:04:01]  I mean, first of all, it's just blatantly false.
[00:04:04]  But second of all, it's obvious that they're talking about themselves.
[00:04:06]  A lot of people do this.
[00:04:08]  Friedrich Nietzsche, a long time ago, said that, you know, about 100 and some odd years ago, he wrote, he said, most philosophers don't actually do philosophy.
[00:04:14]  They just rationalize their own pathologies.
[00:04:17]  So these people come out and say, there's a meme.
[00:04:19]  It's like with Sigmund Freud, you know, he's all the whole thing about the Oedipus complex with that.
[00:04:23]  And he's like, there's a meme which shows Sigmund Freud sitting there, you know, doing the thinking face.
[00:04:27]  And he says, it's not that I want to have sex with my mother.
[00:04:31]  It's that everybody wants to have sex with their mothers.
[00:04:33]  So what they're doing is they're talking about what they think.
[00:04:35]  They are racist.
[00:04:36]  It's obvious that they are racist.
[00:04:38]  We had the other president of the United States, the one that's currently not in the White House, but in Delaware, talking about how black people don't know how to use computers.
[00:04:46]  We have his wife talking about Latinx people, which is not a thing.
[00:04:52]  Tacos?
[00:04:52]  That they're tacos.
[00:04:53]  Like, awesome.
[00:04:55]  Like, you can see what's going on here.
[00:04:58]  They are talking about themselves.
[00:05:00]  And so they can say whatever they want.
[00:05:02]  They can tell whatever lies, get them through the day, but it's just not true.
[00:05:07]  The average American knows that they're not racist, that we're not all complicit in some system of racism.
[00:05:12]  Most of us don't think about it, except that they keep forcing us to.
[00:05:15]  So I want to continue to define terms.
[00:05:17]  Throughout this conference, a lot of people have been using the term woke.
[00:05:21]  Where did that term come from?
[00:05:23]  And just for everyone's purposes, so we can have defined upon agreed upon terms, what does that actually mean?
[00:05:30]  Oh, man.
[00:05:30]  So the term, I mean, it's an old slang term.
[00:05:33]  I think it probably started in the 60s alongside being hip.
[00:05:36]  Is that right?
[00:05:36]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:05:37]  I think it started then, but it became popularized in an Erica Badou song called Master Teacher in 2008.
[00:05:42]  And then it became kind of a watchword for mostly urban youth, I think the skew predominantly black and Hispanic, that, you know, you got to watch out.
[00:05:51]  You got to be woke to the fact that the cops are patrolling us, et cetera.
[00:05:54]  There's the kind of undertone of the song.
[00:05:58]  And so they adopted this with the Black Lives Matter movement.
[00:06:00]  We got to be woke to what's happening.
[00:06:01]  We've got to be woke to what's happening.
[00:06:02]  We've got to be woke to what's happening.
[00:06:04]  And it became kind of this signifier of this critical race mentality with talking about race in society.
[00:06:12]  And so they have largely abandoned this word.
[00:06:16]  They say it's a right-wing manufactured object, but they used it originally to describe how they perceived the world.
[00:06:22]  And that's what it actually means.
[00:06:24]  It's a perception of the world.
[00:06:25]  And what it means is that you have been given a consciousness that you understand the world in Marxist terms.
[00:06:31]  You have awakened.
[00:06:32]  If you read this guy, Paulo Freire, he's a Brazilian educator, a Marxist educator.
[00:06:36]  He actually says that you, and I am not exaggerating.
[00:06:38]  He says that what you have to do when you start to learn about the world, meaning in a Marxist way, is that you have to die and be reborn.
[00:06:46]  He says you have to existentially experience your own Easter to be reawakened, reborn on the side of the oppressed.
[00:06:53]  I want you all to understand, this is in elementary schools.
[00:06:56]  This is in high schools.
[00:06:57]  What does it mean to view the world in a Marxist way, James?
[00:07:01]  What it means is when you view the world in a Marxist way, what you think is a number of things.
[00:07:05]  First, that you think that it's separated into two categories that you might say are the oppressors and the oppressed or the haves and the have-nots, and that this is a dynamic system.
[00:07:14]  This is the first part, that there's a dynamic system where the people who have rigged the system so that they keep having, even if they don't know it.
[00:07:20]  In fact, usually they don't know that they're doing it.
[00:07:22]  So they rig the system.
[00:07:23]  So it's a big conspiracy theory that everybody who's in a privileged position in society has set the system up to maintain their own benefit.
[00:07:31]  Secondly, it means that you, as somebody who is oppressed, have a special insight into how the world works and therefore can become a change agent, somebody who can transform the world.
[00:07:40]  If you see that word transform in anything, like, you know, on the United Nations 17 Sustainable Goals to transform our world, that's Marxism.
[00:07:48]  So what it means is that you believe that you are an intrinsic person who has a special insight into how the world works to transform it into something that it is not yet.
[00:07:56]  And so what that means is that you are awakening people to be aggrieved, to be angry about the world they live in, to blame somebody else, and to believe that you are uniquely positioned to change the world into something that it is not yet, but could possibly be in a utopian direction.
[00:08:09]  A lot of parents feel intimidated by these topics because when they show up to school board meetings or they talk with teachers, they will get talked down to.
[00:08:17]  They'll be saying, oh, no, no, this is just an academic exercise.
[00:08:20]  How important is it, James, that you fight early on these concepts and then piggyback on that?
[00:08:26]  What is the goal of these people that are teaching CRT that are teaching queer theory?
[00:08:32]  And we'll get to that in a second.
[00:08:33]  I mean, yeah, I mean, you actually will see it even more within the queer theory dimension that they are very insistent on trying to get to the young people, to the youngest people.
[00:08:41]  You said kindergarten is pre-K.
[00:08:43]  They want to start this.
[00:08:44]  There are actually programs talking about bringing the so-called social emotional learning program all the way into, this has happened in France already.
[00:08:50]  The World Economic Forum was behind this, was an initiative to train nurses in social emotional learning to train pregnant women to do social emotional learning to their infants from the moment they're born.
[00:09:01]  What does that feel?
[00:09:02]  Social emotional learning is this, it's this approach to education that focuses on social and emotional development.
[00:09:09]  What it is, is it's actually turning your education into a thought reform program, a programming, brainwashing program to make sure that you are going to fit in with whatever initiatives happen to be the desired goals of the they that we keep kind of vaguely referring to at the World Economic Forum in this case.
[00:09:25]  We know who they are.
[00:09:26]  They said that they want to do this.
[00:09:27]  And so the kind of regime, if you will, or the machine, if you want to call it that, has a vision where they want kids all the way down to like zero being trained in the ideas of critical race theory.
[00:09:37]  We have anti-racist baby, for example.
[00:09:38]  Kendi put out that book.
[00:09:40]  We have, you know, this queer theory stuff being brought into pre-K with young, young, young children.
[00:09:45]  And the reason they want to do that with children is they know that they're the most impressionable.
[00:09:49]  They are the most vulnerable people alive in our society, and that's why they want to target them.
[00:09:54]  They can change their mind.
[00:09:55]  They have not formed concrete understanding of their own identity, who they are, how the world works, what the world is.
[00:10:01]  And if you can confuse it then, and that's what they're after, if you can confuse them then, they will never be able to figure out the world for themselves.
[00:10:08]  And they're always going to have to listen to somebody telling them what is and is not.
[00:10:12]  So, James, a lot of parents here and watching online and listening for the rebroadcast, they hear these terms, social-emotional learning.
[00:10:20]  It sounds so unassuming.
[00:10:22]  What should the response be if they find out their kid or their school district is pushing social emotional learning?
[00:10:28]  You got to fight that.
[00:10:29]  I would tell you that you need to understand.
[00:10:31]  And I spoke at a Moms for Liberty conference recently in front of all these moms, hundreds of moms.
[00:10:36]  And I said, you know, what I want you to come home from this with is this idea.
[00:10:40]  If you knew, and I mean this, this is what social emotional learning really is, and I'm skipping a few details to get to it, but if you knew you were sending your kids to a Maoist re-education prison for 35 hours a week, what would you do differently in your life?
[00:10:52]  Because that is actually what it is.
[00:10:54]  I read the books about Maoist thought reform written by psychologists who studied people that were coming to Hong Kong fresh out of exile from China, fresh out of Maoist prisons, where they were indoctrinated into Maoist communism.
[00:11:05]  And it's exactly the same program.
[00:11:07]  So social emotional learning, if your kids, if it's happening, you have to fight it.
[00:11:10]  I would tell you, you need to protect your kids.
[00:11:12]  If that means yanking them out of that school and guarding them, it means yanking them out of the school and taking whatever extra steps you have to take to protect your children.
[00:11:20]  It is a very deliberate, very effective psychological and emotional manipulation of children performed by people who aren't even professionals.
[00:11:29]  Teachers are wonderful.
[00:11:30]  They are pros, but they're not psychologists.
[00:11:32]  And they have no business doing psychological manipulation of children in uncontrolled non-therapeutic settings.
[00:11:38]  So James, James, what is queer theory?
[00:11:44]  Queer theory is a nightmare.
[00:11:46]  So we talked already about all this critical race theory, a little about social emotional learning.
[00:11:50]  I will tell you that probably, like, right up there with inflation, right up there with the destruction of our currency, right up there with the things that are going on with the food supply, queer theory is probably next in line in terms of the most dangerous thing that's happening in this country.
[00:12:04]  Critical race theory is basically just a setup.
[00:12:07]  It's like a boxing Ropa dope to get the kids into the queer theory.
[00:12:10]  The goal of queer theory is to abolish the concept of normal.
[00:12:15]  So like I said, you know, Marxism is this idea that there's a special quality of property and life that some people establish and give to themselves.
[00:12:22]  They keep everybody else out.
[00:12:23]  And that quality for queer theory is normalcy, being considered normal.
[00:12:27]  Certain people, like you and me, said, you know what, we're pretty normal.
[00:12:30]  You know, we're normal dudes.
[00:12:31]  All right, we're bros.
[00:12:33]  And we get to define what normal means.
[00:12:34]  And all the freaks and the perverts, literally, they say they fly their pervert flag openly in all their papers.
[00:12:40]  They say it's for pervert.
[00:12:41]  Who is they?
[00:12:42]  What do you mean?
[00:12:42]  Oh, I mean, I'm quoting Gail Rubin right there.
[00:12:44]  So she's the first person to write a paper in queer theory in 1984 called Thinking Sex.
[00:12:48]  She said that it's, you know, that they use the word pervert to the normal people use the word pervert to exclude perverts from society.
[00:12:55]  In that paper, she actually asks out loud why, for example, people can't wear their kinkwear to the office, like their leather or whatever, to the office.
[00:13:03]  And so you get to think about for a second that what's happening in like the pride parades now, where they're showing up or in the White House, as a matter of fact, with this one guy, the nuclear guy.
[00:13:13]  I mean, no comment.
[00:13:16]  The man who wears a dress to work.
[00:13:18]  Yeah, with a mustache and the bald head.
[00:13:21]  And also Levine.
[00:13:23]  Well, the dude that became admiral.
[00:13:26]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:13:27]  Admirable admiral.
[00:13:28]  Yeah.
[00:13:29]  So what you have to understand is that the goal is to destroy the concept of normal.
[00:13:35]  Nobody's allowed to be normal because they're not normal, because that's the thing they think constrains people.
[00:13:40]  The real oppression is not economic.
[00:13:42]  It's personal by the fact that you've been categorized or assigned a sex at birth.
[00:13:47]  So if it's a normal belief in society that children should be protected, they want to get rid of that.
[00:13:53]  For example, pedophilia.
[00:13:55]  Yeah, I mean, again, I mentioned Gail Rubin, 1984, Thinking Sex a minute ago.
[00:13:59]  That is the first paper in queer theory, and it defends what she calls cross-generational sexual relationships.
[00:14:06]  Defends repeatedly.
[00:14:07]  Do you think we're going to hear that term cross-generational sexual relationships soon?
[00:14:11]  No, I don't think so.
[00:14:12]  I don't think they're going to pull that one back out, but they're going all the way.
[00:14:15]  I mean, they got MAP now, the minor attracted pedophile or whatever that stands for.
[00:14:20]  I can't remember what the P stands for.
[00:14:21]  I'm pretty sure it's pedophile.
[00:14:24]  And but their goal is to, so to keep on going, this is important.
[00:14:30]  Queer theory, the destruction of what is normal.
[00:14:34]  Shouldn't we be even more worked up about this?

=== Queer Theory Destroys Your Soul (03:54) ===

[00:14:36]  I mean, this is the whole civilization.
[00:14:39]  We have been talking about critical race theory for like two years, and it's a ropa-dope.
[00:14:44]  It's a setup.
[00:14:45]  Queer theory is at least 20 times as dangerous as critical race theory.
[00:14:48]  At least.
[00:14:49]  You are talking about the mental and physical destruction of children.
[00:14:53]  You're talking about the sterilization of children who are primarily autistic, depressed, and anxious to the level where it's clinical.
[00:15:00]  You are talking about the destruction of their bodies with irreparable damage with hormones, with puberty blockers, which literally they give to rapists, or they stop giving to rapists to chemically castrate them the drugs called Lupron.
[00:15:13]  They stopped giving it to them because it's inhumane.
[00:15:16]  They used to give it to child rapists.
[00:15:18]  They stopped because it's inhumane.
[00:15:19]  So we give it to confused eight-year-olds and autistic 12-year-olds.
[00:15:23]  This is what they're actually doing.
[00:15:24]  We're talking about the absolute physical destruction, but the psychological destruction is permanent.
[00:15:29]  You're talking about making kids completely unstable, completely unable to grasp the world, to the point where we have a lady sitting in front of the Senate being confirmed for the Supreme Court.
[00:15:39]  Well, I say a lady.
[00:15:41]  I'm not a biologist.
[00:15:43]  Kentaji Brown Jackson sits up, gets asked directly, what is a woman?
[00:15:46]  And she's like, I don't know.
[00:15:48]  Because the idea of woman has been complicated, because if we knew what women are in the normal definition, that would be against queer theory.
[00:15:55]  And she gave a transphobic answer, but they give her a pass because she's on the left.
[00:15:58]  Biology shouldn't be involved in this determination.
[00:16:02]  What should be involved in it?
[00:16:03]  Well, it's how people feel.
[00:16:05]  If you look up the definitions in Merriam-Webster, they just change the definitions of boy and girl so that they go in a circle.
[00:16:10]  A girl is somebody who feels like a girl and is not a boy, and the boy is somebody who feels like a boy and is not a girl.
[00:16:16]  They just go in a circle forever.
[00:16:18]  The idea is that you aren't going, and this is the big point, Charlie.
[00:16:21]  We're talking about like sex, gender, sexuality.
[00:16:23]  It's in health.
[00:16:24]  It's in mental health.
[00:16:25]  It's in the norms of the country.
[00:16:27]  It's in the values that we share and hold.
[00:16:29]  They want to, and the word they use for it is queer, means complicate, make complicated everything until nobody understands any concept or category any longer.
[00:16:38]  Nobody can make sense of the world for themselves, which means somebody in power is going to tell you the right answer to every question.
[00:16:45]  And so, James, you know, you're about to come to our Turning Point USA pastor summit in a couple weeks brought to you by TPUSA Faith.
[00:16:53]  I just want to touch on this, and I have to say this.
[00:16:56]  This sounds very demonic.
[00:16:57]  I mean, if I was trying to destroy the world, I would destroy all the terms.
[00:17:02]  And I mean, you've said something similar.
[00:17:04]  I mean, I've said, I believe the exact line is, the quote was that if I were a deceiver with a capital D or an enemy with a capital E, what I would do is sow confusion by changing the meanings of words right out from under people or confusing the meanings of words where people can't understand the world in the terms that we've given it.
[00:17:25]  So, yeah, Charlie, I know we have our differences in matters of faith and metaphysics, but this is irrelevant.
[00:17:31]  I agree with you that this is demonic.
[00:17:33]  I agree with you.
[00:17:34]  And this is actually one of the things I wanted to say most on this stage today.
[00:17:37]  This is a form of spiritual warfare, whatever the word spiritual means.
[00:17:44]  The goal of Marxism is to destroy society.
[00:17:48]  The goal of queer theory is to destroy your soul.
[00:17:51]  It is to eat away at your mind and your sense of self and your sense of goodness and your sense of being and your sense of groundedness and your sense of being based and dissolve it out from under you like a corrosive acid.
[00:18:03]  Marxism tries to change the society outward.
[00:18:06]  Marx says that's the goal.
[00:18:07]  We have to transform the society into the socialist society.
[00:18:10]  Queer theory tries to change you.
[00:18:13]  It tries to transform you into the ideal person who is not so ideal because you can't function in real life and will grow up unable to have normal, healthy relationships or reproduce or all of the things that make life truly, truly worth living.

=== Institutionalized Drag Pedagogy In Schools (02:14) ===

[00:18:30]  So James, this is a lot for people to take in.
[00:18:34]  In the last five minutes, I want to talk about just briefly, how widespread is this really?
[00:18:40]  Because the other critique a lot of, let's say, squishy conservatives will give is they'll say, oh, this is not very far spread.
[00:18:48]  It's only in a couple pockets.
[00:18:50]  It's the fringe of academia.
[00:18:52]  How institutionalized is this?
[00:18:55]  So I got asked yesterday or the day before, you know, what proportion, in one of the interviews I did on the media, what proportion of schools would you say this stuff is in, or colleges and universities?
[00:19:06]  So we'll start at colleges and universities.
[00:19:07]  What proportion of colleges and universities would you say?
[00:19:09]  And I said, well, we got to be careful because there's like Hillsdale.
[00:19:12]  But if you look at, say, public universities, colleges and universities in this country, the number is 100%.
[00:19:17]  100%.
[00:19:19]  Not 99%, 100%.
[00:19:21]  It is completely institutionalized throughout academia.
[00:19:24]  Now, the problem is that teaching colleges are in academia.
[00:19:27]  It is, I would argue, overwhelmingly institutionalized in at least K through 12, but pre-K through 12 schools, to the point where we have schools, not just schools, we have state attorneys general, for example, Dana Nissel in Michigan, saying that drag queens belong in every school because they're fun.
[00:19:46]  That's an entire state, a purple state at that, saying drag queens belong in every school.
[00:19:54]  Now, why are there drag queens?
[00:19:56]  Believe it or not, they wrote a paper about this.
[00:19:58]  They wrote an academic paper.
[00:19:59]  I did a podcast reading through this paper.
[00:20:02]  The paper is called Drag Pedagogy.
[00:20:04]  They explain the theory of education, that's what pedagogy means, through drag queens.
[00:20:09]  The last sentence of that paper, by the way, is that they intend to leave a trail of glitter in the carpet that will never come out.
[00:20:15]  That's what they say.
[00:20:16]  And in this paper, they say that drag queens are a crucial aspect of generating the concepts and the conversations to lead children to live queerly.
[00:20:25]  That's their objective.
[00:20:26]  They say in the paper, Charlie, they say in the paper, we advertise this as a marketing strategy that it's about LGBT empathy.
[00:20:36]  However, it's about leading kids to discover their true selves and live queerly.
[00:20:42]  So they know they're lying.
[00:20:44]  They absolutely know that.

=== Glitter Trails That Never Come Out (05:58) ===

[00:20:45]  You know what they also say?
[00:20:46]  They say, we advertise it as family-friendly, but we mean that less in the sense of like, you know, bring the parents, everybody's having fun, like the Attorney General of Michigan thinks.
[00:20:55]  And we mean that more in the sense of that, you know, there's your queer family on the street that you leave your real family for.
[00:21:01]  That's in the paper.
[00:21:01]  They say it.
[00:21:02]  They are asking to take children away from their families and induce them into a queer family using drag queens in school.
[00:21:08]  And we have at least one state attorney general saying it belongs everywhere.
[00:21:12]  How institutional is this?
[00:21:14]  Epidemic.
[00:21:15]  Unbelievable.
[00:21:17]  It is, in fact, the status quo.
[00:21:18]  I think it's your thing to say.
[00:21:19]  You are a dissident in your own country now.
[00:21:22]  We have been colonized.
[00:21:23]  They fly their flag.
[00:21:24]  Their own flag is being colonized by another flag.
[00:21:27]  They're transforming.
[00:21:28]  They have their pride flag and now it has like literally what is with the black circle in it now.
[00:21:32]  What is that all about?
[00:21:33]  That's intersex.
[00:21:34]  That's so that they can't.
[00:21:35]  But it's the triangle.
[00:21:36]  It's all very complicated.
[00:21:37]  Well, I mean, it's going to keep changing because that's the thing, right?
[00:21:40]  Transform, right?
[00:21:41]  But anything that becomes, this is literally Queer Theory had a paper they wrote a number of years ago called Queering Queer Theory because they're afraid it had become normal already.
[00:21:49]  Anything that becomes static, the pride flag became static.
[00:21:52]  So they start putting these wedges of other colors in there and a circle and a triangle.
[00:21:55]  And sooner or later, they're going to put a giant P on there.
[00:21:58]  I don't remember what the P stands for.
[00:21:59]  Does anybody want to help me out with that?
[00:22:01]  Pedophile!
[00:22:03]  And so, so, James, we only have a couple minutes remaining.
[00:22:07]  What do we do about it?
[00:22:09]  Because this can seem overwhelming.
[00:22:10]  And honestly, some people here, they have had the courage.
[00:22:14]  And God bless all of you that have shown up at school board meetings and have spoken out.
[00:22:17]  But when they do that, you know what they'll be told?
[00:22:19]  You're just peddling conspiracy theories.
[00:22:22]  We're not after your children.
[00:22:24]  We just want these ideas to be presented.
[00:22:26]  Number one, how do they confront the inevitable kind of stonewalling of the academic infrastructure?
[00:22:33]  Two, what is our strategy?
[00:22:35]  What is our game plan?
[00:22:36]  How do we defeat the invading force?
[00:22:38]  So, number one is what you do is you do not stop.
[00:22:41]  You do not stop.
[00:22:43]  This is, for me, it's like, I don't even like saying this is a line in the sand.
[00:22:46]  This is a line in concrete.
[00:22:48]  You have crossed the line.
[00:22:50]  You've come this far.
[00:22:51]  No further.
[00:22:53]  And you have to believe your eyes.
[00:22:55]  You have to believe your ears.
[00:22:56]  You have to believe what your children are saying and telling you.
[00:22:59]  You have to believe what you see in the books like Genderqueer that show actual oral sex acts in children's libraries.
[00:23:06]  You have to not stop.
[00:23:08]  You have to keep showing up.
[00:23:10]  You have to do what will get you shut down.
[00:23:12]  You have to go and buy that book, show up to the school board, and read it out loud on camera.
[00:23:17]  And they will say that somebody actually just got threatened.
[00:23:19]  It would be actually a felony to read this in front of children.
[00:23:23]  It's like, well, why is it in the school library?
[00:23:25]  You cannot stop.
[00:23:26]  You have to keep pressing.
[00:23:27]  You have to contact your representatives.
[00:23:29]  The state of Florida is blessed.
[00:23:31]  They have a wonderful guy here who passed an anti-grooming bill.
[00:23:35]  The left lost its mind.
[00:23:37]  What is a groomer, James?
[00:23:39]  A groomer is somebody who induces somebody into a cult or an ideological belief outside the permission and knowledge of their parents, or, or specifically, in addition, in order to make them vulnerable and groomable for possibly sexual activity.
[00:23:53]  So, anybody who wants to talk about sex with a kindergartner and tell them, don't tell your parents it's safer that way, is a groomer.
[00:24:01]  That person belongs in prison, not in a school.
[00:24:08]  James, final question.
[00:24:09]  Any other action points, battle plan?
[00:24:12]  We have to defeat these people.
[00:24:14]  Is there a middle ground?
[00:24:15]  Is there a compromise with pedophiles?
[00:24:17]  No.
[00:24:18]  You cannot stop.
[00:24:19]  You have to get knowledgeable.
[00:24:21]  I hate to read it.
[00:24:22]  I hate to read it.
[00:24:23]  You have to read it.
[00:24:24]  You have to know what they say.
[00:24:25]  You have to know that they intend it.
[00:24:27]  You have to find concrete examples.
[00:24:29]  You must show, don't tell.
[00:24:30]  Read their books, read their papers, show up and say, this is what it says.
[00:24:35]  This is what you're doing.
[00:24:36]  This is what the United Nations has in its comprehensive sexuality education program since 2003 that your school here in whatever county, Florida, is implementing.
[00:24:45]  You have to show up with proof, say that it's happening, and say, look, the line's drawn.
[00:24:50]  No further.
[00:24:51]  In fact, we're going the other way.
[00:24:52]  There's no compromise with this.
[00:24:53]  We have to go backwards.
[00:24:55]  Now, everybody, here's the cool thing.
[00:24:57]  Dr. James Lindsay, his full-time job is to read all these papers and give it to you in sound bites and easily digestible information so that you don't have to read those huge academic journals.
[00:25:09]  But, I mean, what's so great about James, and you just heard it, is that was more information in a short period of time that most academics, it would take them five and a half hours to get maybe 1% of that.
[00:25:20]  And so, James, the book is Race Marxism, Cynical Theories.
[00:25:24]  You also have a podcast.
[00:25:25]  You have new discourses.
[00:25:27]  You have Sovereign Nations.
[00:25:28]  Tell our audience how they can stay in touch with you because I guarantee you, a lot of people are now, their curiosity has now been triggered.
[00:25:35]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:36]  The website's newdiscourses.com.
[00:25:37]  The podcast is the New Discourses podcast.
[00:25:40]  You'll find it there.
[00:25:40]  You'll see the pictures of the drag queens.
[00:25:42]  Click on it, listen to it, go through the whole paper for you.
[00:25:44]  You have all the quotes you need to take to the school board.
[00:25:46]  I'm for the time being at Conceptual James on Twitter.
[00:25:50]  I just got banned from Twitter for calling somebody a groomer.
[00:25:53]  So we'll see how long I stay there.
[00:25:56]  That's now a badge of honor.
[00:25:57]  And so, well, James, thank you so much for being here.
[00:26:00]  We're going to continue to do things together.
[00:26:02]  And I wish we had as many people in the church as a sidebar that understood this stuff as well as James Lindsay, because this stuff's in the church too, guys.
[00:26:12]  And that's a different conversation for a different time.
[00:26:14]  Queer theory is in the church, and they're putting up with it.
[00:26:18]  But everybody, the line has been drawn.
[00:26:20]  We are not going to let them do anything else.
[00:26:22]  We are finally going to fight these people against the invading colonialist force.
[00:26:26]  Give it up for James Lindsay, everybody.
[00:26:28]  Thank you.
[00:26:31]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
[00:26:32]  Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:26:35]  Thanks so much.
[00:26:36]  Talk to you soon.
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