The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 105: Is Hillary Headed to Prison? Did Elon Take the Red Pill? Is There Room for Hope? And MORE!
Aired: 2022-05-23
Duration: 36:21


=== Attitude Over Thoughts (01:54) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, happy Monday and Ask Me Anything episode.
[00:00:02]  Is Hillary going to prison with the new revelations?
[00:00:05]  Elon Musk gets even more red-pilled.
[00:00:08]  And should we have hope?
[00:00:09]  What is the right attitude that we should have?
[00:00:12]  Attitude is a really important thing in life.
[00:00:14]  In fact, I think your attitude is more important than your thoughts sometimes.
[00:00:18]  That's a provocative take.
[00:00:19]  I don't have time to fully complete the point, but I'm a big believer in having a good attitude.
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=== Hillary Clinton Leaks Exposed (15:23) ===

[00:01:54]  This is from Eric, who says, Charlie, I just saw the breaking news that Hillary herself approved leaking the Alpha Bank story to the press.
[00:02:06]  I know you've said before that Hillary and the real big fish won't get arrested or indicted.
[00:02:10]  Does this change things for you, Eric?
[00:02:13]  So thank you for emailing us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:02:16]  This is a bombshell story that has come out in the last couple of days.
[00:02:20]  So this is coming up because of the trial of Michael Sussman.
[00:02:23]  Now, if you are confused about Michael Sussman and Alpha Bank, I encourage you to go back a week ago where we had Kash Patel join the program and listen to that whole episode.
[00:02:35]  It's a terrific episode.
[00:02:36]  We're going to repost it on CharlieKirk.com where we go into great detail of Michael Sussman and the indictments.
[00:02:43]  We've been playing it on our live stream actually in between the breaks.
[00:02:47]  And so we've been getting great response from that.
[00:02:49]  So a lot of the kind of Clinton characters have been called to testify in this case.
[00:02:57]  And so the chief beta male of the Hillary Clinton machine is a low testosterone, rather, let's say, I don't want to say, he's just not a good guy.
[00:03:10]  He's a bad guy, Robbie Mook.
[00:03:12]  Now, Robbie Mook was the 2016 campaign manager for Hillary Clinton for America.
[00:03:19]  He is a devout and loyal Clintonite.
[00:03:24]  Robbie Mook thought that the 2016 election was perfect and was going to be great and they were going to win.
[00:03:32]  And of course, he oversaw the shell shock loss to Donald Trump.
[00:03:37]  So Robbie Mook knows a lot about the inner workings of the 2015-2016 presidential campaign by Hillary Clinton.
[00:03:45]  So John Durham knows what he's doing.
[00:03:47]  It looks more and more clear that way, where John Durham has called a lot of these people to testify to find out who exactly approved the payment.
[00:03:56]  Who was behind all of this?
[00:03:57]  Now, up until this moment, right now, and the breaking news that has happened in the last hour, there has been no credible evidence by anybody in the Clinton clown car that has showed that Hillary Clinton herself was involved in any of this activity.
[00:04:17]  Now, we, of course, knew that she actually is because we have common sense and we can see things as they are.
[00:04:24]  It doesn't take a lot of leap to realize that Hillary Clinton would do this, but not enough where you could present it to a jury.
[00:04:31]  And not enough where you would present it to a judge.
[00:04:35]  Well, Robbie Mook was testifying and he said in court today that Hillary Clinton, quote, Hillary Clinton herself approved the idea of giving the fake Alpha Bank story to a reporter.
[00:04:51]  Quote, we told her we have this and we want to share it with a reporter.
[00:04:57]  She agreed with that.
[00:04:59]  So Hillary Clinton personally okayed the sharing of the Trump-Russia data campaign.
[00:05:06]  Now, does it go a level deeper, which of course would then criminally implicate Hillary Clinton, which is that Hillary Clinton personally sign off on the asset transfer that funded the fake dossier?
[00:05:18]  And even more so, where Hillary Clinton would be in even more trouble.
[00:05:23]  And even more, let's say, difficult waters would be if there is evidence to show that Hillary Clinton knew that Sussman going to the FBI was part of the strategy.
[00:05:35]  These are things that have yet to be built out.
[00:05:37]  But what this does for the first time is it directly links without any shadow of a doubt, Hillary Clinton's knowledge of the Alpha Bank story and then leaking it to the press.
[00:05:51]  Now, we knew this just through circumstantial evidence, but until this, Hillary Clinton firmly denied it through all of her surrogates, Mark Elias and all the other people, even though there was a $10 million payment via Fusion GPS to go get this story created and distributed.
[00:06:05]  Hillary Clinton was like, I knew nothing about this.
[00:06:07]  Come on, just the candidate.
[00:06:08]  I don't know anything about it.
[00:06:10]  She was constantly denying and creating space and trying to demand that she had distance from this story.
[00:06:17]  The New York Post writes, Mook described the end of his conversation with Clinton as him telling her, quote, hey, we have this and we want to share it with a reporter.
[00:06:25]  She agreed to that.
[00:06:27]  Mook also acknowledged the campaign hadn't verified the accuracy of the data at the time.
[00:06:32]  Part of the point of giving it to a reporter was that they could run it down further.
[00:06:36]  Now, this is probably a workshop, let's say, coordination.
[00:06:40]  As it stands, Hillary Clinton and Robbie Mook are probably channeling via lawyers on how they're going to tell this story because they can't say they knew nothing about it.
[00:06:50]  But basically, the narrative that has now been created via Robbie Mook's testimony in the Sussman trial with Durham doing the prosecution is, why don't we say we had it, but we didn't know how we got it and we didn't know how true it was.
[00:07:07]  Now, the not knowing how we got it falls apart completely because they got it through their own opposition research, opposition research, the work of fiction, via the via, what was his name?
[00:07:19]  Christopher Steele, the dossier created by Christopher Steele.
[00:07:22]  So we know how they got it.
[00:07:23]  So now Robbie Mook and Hillary Clinton, probably after many years now and many months of kind of wordsmithing and figuring it out, because Mook is still very loyal to Hillary Clinton, unless he said something he was supposed to say, which I don't think is true.
[00:07:36]  But it's very clear that they've come up with their version of events.
[00:07:41]  And their version of events is the following, that they paid $10 million or whatever the amount was, it was an extraordinary sum, to Fusion GPS, where Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele and came up with this fake dossier story.
[00:07:55]  Then it goes back to the Hillary Clinton campaign for approval via Fusion GPS to the top levels of the campaign to Hillary Clinton, where then they sent it to the press.
[00:08:05]  Now, where the prosecution will have to nail it down in a future trial, because there might be more looming indictments, is: wait a second.
[00:08:13]  Did you contact anybody in the orbit of the FBI or Sussman to then bring that fake story to the Bureau, knowing it wasn't true?
[00:08:26]  So the reason why they're trying to cover their tracks, and they're doing a pretty good job of it, if Durham wasn't motivated to continue this investigation, is this point, which where Robbie Mook wanted to say this, quote, we did not know the veracity of the story.
[00:08:44]  Part of the point of giving it to a reporter so they could run it down further.
[00:08:50]  Where they could get potentially in a lot of trouble is if there's communications or testimony that shows that Robbie Mook was working to get this in front of the FBI.
[00:09:01]  Robbie Mook said, quote, a reporter could vet the information and then decide to print it.
[00:09:06]  Mook testified that he was first told about the information purportedly showing a secret back channel between the Trump organization server and Russia Alpha Bank's Pie campaign, general counselor, counsel Mark Elias.
[00:09:19]  Now, we know that name Mark Elias.
[00:09:20]  Mark Elias is the chief mastermind behind all the voter fraud operations and machinery in the country.
[00:09:26]  Mark Elias is a slippery person.
[00:09:30]  I'm going to be nice.
[00:09:32]  And Mark Elias was the general counsel for the 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign.
[00:09:37]  Mook added, he didn't recall where the data came from.
[00:09:42]  Really?
[00:09:44]  So someone's lying because Mook, I think the data came from the money that you guys gave to Fusion GPS that resulted in this entire scheme.
[00:09:54]  The campaign manager also discussed the matter with top aides, Podesta, Sullivan, and Jennifer Palmeri, apparently before going to Clinton.
[00:10:02]  This stunning disclosure came during a cross-examination of Mook by a member of John Durham's team, federal court, and prompted from D.C. federal court and prompted Judge Christopher Cooper, I'm reading from the New York Post, by the way, to order the jury out of the courtroom so he could hold a sidebar discussion with both sides.
[00:10:21]  Sussman is being charged with lying to the FBI and denying he was working on behalf of the campaign, even though there's a text message that shows he's working for the campaign.
[00:10:31]  After the sidebar, Cooper announced that he might allow prosecutor Andrew DePhillips to introduce evidence from a tweet by Clinton in 16 showing that after left-wing slate website published a report about the Alpha Bank data, Clinton, quote, wrote, Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump organization to a Russia-based bank.
[00:10:56]  She also issued a statement from Sullivan, now president's national security advisor and member, Jake Sullivan, gets involved in this saying, quote, the secret hotline may be the key to unlocking the mystery of Trump's ties to Russia.
[00:11:08]  So we have Hillary Clinton who casually gets brought into this by Robbie Mook.
[00:11:13]  I think this is coordinated.
[00:11:15]  I think that Robbie Mook did not do this by mistake.
[00:11:18]  Now it shocked the courtroom.
[00:11:19]  I do not think after all the prep and all the years of this, Robbie Mook might be just kind of accidentally saying something like, oh, yeah, by the way, look, Hillary Clinton, Robbie Mook doesn't want to be Jeffrey Epstein.
[00:11:29]  Okay, he knows what happens in the Clinton orbit.
[00:11:31]  That's a joke, sort of.
[00:11:34]  And so Robbie Mook is not dumb.
[00:11:37]  And so Robbie Mook wants to at least appease the powers to be.
[00:11:42]  So they're going to need to establish some form of narrative of the following questions, which are very important.
[00:11:47]  What did Hillary Clinton know?
[00:11:49]  What did she approve?
[00:11:50]  What did she not know?
[00:11:51]  And for what reason did they, for what reason did they do what they did, right?
[00:11:57]  And so what we talked about on this program is that when the lower level people start to get involved, it's going to move up, hopefully, with future indictments.
[00:12:06]  Now, either that or they're coordinating.
[00:12:08]  I'm too cynical to believe, to be perfectly honest, that Hillary Clinton would allow Robbie Mook to go to the stand and not say anything that she did not have in connection.
[00:12:17]  Now, this is a big revelation, but I'm going to play the tape here.
[00:12:21]  I want you to think about it.
[00:12:22]  Is it really that big of a revelation if what they say they can prove?
[00:12:27]  So I don't want to get your hopes up too much, and I'll tell you why that, but why would that?
[00:12:31]  Listen, let's listen to the news reports.
[00:12:32]  Let's start with 102, and we'll go to 101, and I'm going to tell you how they are going to defend themselves, which might be actually pretty compelling unless we can get further evidence.
[00:12:41]  Play cut 102.
[00:12:43]  Hi, Kaylee.
[00:12:44]  Good afternoon.
[00:12:45]  There was a little bit of surprise in the courtroom when Robbie Mook, the 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign manager, just answered a question casually that she personally approved sending that story to the media.
[00:12:58]  As you mentioned, it deals with an allegation or an accusation about the Trump organization, not the Trump campaign, but the Trump organization having a back channel to a Russian bank named Alphabank, which has some ties to the Kremlin, some Russian...
[00:13:13]  Okay, that's 102.
[00:13:15]  Let's do 101, and then I'm going to walk through how they might actually be intentionally allowing this to leak to control it.
[00:13:23]  Clip 101 is more of an outline of the case.
[00:13:25]  Play cut 101, please.
[00:13:27]  Give everyone a little bit of a backstory on this story, because it is complicated.
[00:13:31]  There are a lot of twists and turns.
[00:13:33]  Hillary Clinton had a campaign attorney named Michael Sussman.
[00:13:36]  He is on trial right now behind me in federal court because in 2016, September 2016, he went to his friend who happened to be the general counsel at the FBI, a man named James Baker, and Sussman said, James, or Jim, rather, I have some information linking the Trump organization to a Russian-based bank via a back channel, via a computer server.
[00:13:59]  James Baker took the information at the FBI.
[00:14:02]  The FBI investigated.
[00:14:04]  They found out there was nothing to it, Kaylee, as you mentioned.
[00:14:08]  Hillary Clinton's team at the campaign also found out about that information.
[00:14:12]  And we are learning today via Robbie Mook, the campaign manager.
[00:14:16]  She personally was briefed on this allegation about the Russian bank and Trump organization.
[00:14:22]  And she said, okay, go ahead, give it to the media.
[00:14:25]  And that's where we are right now.
[00:14:26]  Sussman.
[00:14:27]  So the way that Hillary Clinton and her team is now going to respond to this is, well, look, we were presented with bad political information on an opponent.
[00:14:37]  It's very normal to leak bad information on your opponents.
[00:14:40]  It's not like we weren't in a contentious campaign.
[00:14:43]  And they're going to say, that's it.
[00:14:44]  That's kind of our, we're walled off.
[00:14:47]  Now, what I haven't heard anyone mention, which is very glaring and I think it's very obvious, is did the asset transfer to Fusion GPS concoct and pay for this information?
[00:14:56]  If so, then it's a completely different story.
[00:14:58]  But in its current form, I could see a world where Robbie Mook is trying to say, well, yeah, Hillary was involved in just like making a reporter check it out.
[00:15:05]  I mean, come on, we just told a reporter, go check it out.
[00:15:07]  Now, does it make him look bad?
[00:15:09]  Of course it does.
[00:15:09]  It put him in legal jeopardy.
[00:15:11]  Not so much.
[00:15:12]  Now, I'm not saying that Hillary's innocent, of course not.
[00:15:14]  I'm just trying to, I'm trying to play out why Robbie Mook would possibly say this in a courtroom.
[00:15:22]  And the reason he would say this is like, well, we did nothing wrong.
[00:15:26]  We found a story that might be compromising.
[00:15:29]  We sent it to a journalist, and then we were kind of hands-off and we just kind of did our thing.
[00:15:33]  And then once the story was written and they found out the information, well, then we tweeted about it and then it was in the public domain.
[00:15:40]  And if you actually read the headline, it says, Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russia allegations to media.
[00:15:48]  I mean, that's, of course, we've known that the whole time.
[00:15:51]  Now, is it significant that now someone is verifying it and saying it out loud?
[00:15:56]  Without a doubt.
[00:15:56]  That is a big deal.
[00:15:58]  But is it legally compromising?
[00:16:00]  No, it's not.
[00:16:01]  You can leak stuff to the media.
[00:16:03]  The greater question is: did Hillary Clinton pay for fake information herself and approve that via Fusion GPS?
[00:16:10]  Did she then create a scheme with that fake information to send Sussman to the Bureau, aka Jim's Baker?
[00:16:19]  That is the question.
[00:16:20]  Now, Robbie Mook might be trying to cover for Hillary, but what he did do, maybe intentionally or unintentionally, who knows, is open up a million other questions she has to answer.
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=== Elon Musk Fair Trial (13:47) ===

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[00:18:01]  Mark from Alaska.
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[00:18:21]  So, question from Mark from Alaska.
[00:18:23]  Is Charlie due to see the Elon Musk news about the Business Insider Report?
[00:18:26]  What do you think?
[00:18:27]  So I don't know the details of the story.
[00:18:29]  It alleges sexual harassment by Elon Musk, but we know why this is happening.
[00:18:33]  Let me ask you a question.
[00:18:34]  If Elon Musk had announced that he was going to donate a billion dollars over the next decade to the Democrat Party, do you think that there would be a business insider piece against him?
[00:18:48]  If Elon Musk came out and said that he was going to put all of his profits for transgender puberty blocker surgery, do you think that he would be attacked?
[00:18:58]  If Elon Musk came out and said, I'm not going to buy Twitter, forget that, and said that instead he is going to try to invest money in diverse and black and LGBTQ creators, do you think that there would be a full court press against him?
[00:19:16]  Of course not.
[00:19:17]  Elon is learning.
[00:19:19]  Now, he's unbelievably smart.
[00:19:21]  He's brilliant.
[00:19:22]  He's a great entrepreneur.
[00:19:24]  But I don't think Elon quite understands how malevolent and how nasty these people are.
[00:19:33]  You see, Elon has been operating in a completely different game.
[00:19:37]  Elon is used to opposition and he's used to a fight.
[00:19:44]  But the fights that Elon has been in have been largely fair fights, but difficult fights.
[00:19:50]  But they've been kind of how the world used to work.
[00:19:53]  Can't make payroll, have to take out a second mortgage on your house, really leverage up, go raise outside money, bring Tesla back from the oblivion.
[00:20:01]  Those are tough.
[00:20:02]  Fighting government regulators, those are tough.
[00:20:04]  What Elon has not experienced and what he is now front and center in is a political attack.
[00:20:10]  Political attack is not rational.
[00:20:11]  It's not a fair fight.
[00:20:12]  They'll try to destroy you at every possible opening.
[00:20:16]  We experience this all the time at Turning Point USA on this program.
[00:20:20]  These people are nasty, they're motivated, and they will not fight fair.
[00:20:25]  And I don't think Elon is going to play the victim, but I think Elon is processing this as, I've never really experienced anything like this.
[00:20:32]  Now, Elon has tweeted that out, basically.
[00:20:33]  If you can get Elon's tweet from the other day, where he says that all the recent attacks against me are evidence to show why I'm now voting Republican.
[00:20:41]  So now that Elon has come out and he said that he's going to vote Republican, all of the forces against him are coming.
[00:20:50]  Business Insider also came after Barstool, Dave Portnoy, after Dave Portnoy started to go on Tucker Carlson's program and bashing the woke stuff.
[00:20:57]  And so as soon as you cross the Rubicon, you cross the bridge from being an obedient member of the left and you kind of make the cross, then they're going to deploy everything they possibly can against you.
[00:21:11]  And look, the playbook is so predictable.
[00:21:13]  They're going to try the Me Too thing against Elon Musk.
[00:21:16]  They're going to try all the different regulatory stuff.
[00:21:18]  They're going to try to say that he's a racist.
[00:21:20]  They've already tried that and it's failed.
[00:21:23]  And so Elon Musk tweeted, but he's calling the scandal against him Elongate.
[00:21:28]  Elon Gate, Elongate.
[00:21:30]  I think it's hilarious.
[00:21:32]  And he's not letting it phase him.
[00:21:34]  He did tweet this.
[00:21:34]  He said, quote, the attacks against me should be viewed through a political lens.
[00:21:39]  This is their standard, despicable playbook, but nothing will deter me from fighting for a good future to your right to free speech.
[00:21:46]  Now, I really appreciate that, and I do appreciate that he's saying that it won't deter me.
[00:21:51]  And the way he's processing the information is correct.
[00:21:54]  And I don't want to underestimate Elon, but I do want to say I don't think he's quite grasping the level of desperation and nastiness that they are going to go to.
[00:22:06]  Maybe he's already gamed it out, but there is no fair rules.
[00:22:10]  There are no fair rules at all whatsoever when you engage in a political fight.
[00:22:13]  Zero whatsoever.
[00:22:16]  Okay, let's get to the next question here.
[00:22:18]  And actually, before I do, it's on this other Elon thing.
[00:22:20]  Jim Jordan said, quote, Christopher Steele created the dossier.
[00:22:23]  Glenn Simpson sold it to the press.
[00:22:25]  Michael Sussman took it to the FBI and Democrats and the media lied to you about it all.
[00:22:28]  Elon Musk just recently responded, God bless this man.
[00:22:33]  He said, all true.
[00:22:35]  Bet most people still don't know that a Clinton campaign lawyer using campaign funds created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia.
[00:22:43]  Makes you wonder what else is fake.
[00:22:47]  So Elon is going through something that I've experienced with other people.
[00:22:51]  And I just want to offer my services, Mr. Musk, for you in any way I possibly can.
[00:22:57]  I'm happy to be your ombudsman.
[00:23:00]  Happy to be your advisor here.
[00:23:02]  Elon has taken a, let's say, a steady dose of red pills.
[00:23:07]  And he needs to channel that, I think, because he's now going in a pretty, I mean, this could be a tweet of Sean Hannity's.
[00:23:19]  Quote, Elon Musk says, bet most people don't know that a Clinton campaign lawyer using campaign funds created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia makes you wonder what else is fake.
[00:23:32]  Mr. Musk, God bless you.
[00:23:34]  Now, Donald Trump came out with a pretty nasty statement against Elon Musk.
[00:23:39]  I love the president.
[00:23:40]  I don't know.
[00:23:40]  I'm not right.
[00:23:41]  I'm not there with it.
[00:23:42]  The statement was like, oh, he only wants to be there because he's got all these regulatory problems.
[00:23:46]  There might be some truth there.
[00:23:47]  But I have a different view.
[00:23:48]  I think we should try to invite Elon on our team.
[00:23:52]  We should try to, God bless you, Elon.
[00:23:54]  We're here to help, man.
[00:23:55]  I mean, he is dispensing red pills at every corner.
[00:24:00]  He's saying that the media, he said a hoax.
[00:24:06]  Five years ago, the only people calling this a hoax was Sean Hannity and many others, Tucker and other people.
[00:24:17]  Elon Musk said in a response to a tweet, someone said, Where were all the wild accusations against Elon before he took a stand against the establishment?
[00:24:24]  Elon said, quote, no, it was clear that their only goal is a hit piece to interfere with the Twitter acquisition.
[00:24:29]  The story was written before they even talked to me.
[00:24:31]  Hit piece, quote, edit button.
[00:24:36]  He is shaking the foundations of the international political regime.
[00:24:44]  Now, what will he do next?
[00:24:46]  Is there something they can take from him?
[00:24:49]  And this is why they're dealing with a different type of guy, right?
[00:24:52]  So if you know anything about Elon Musk, he's eccentric.
[00:24:56]  They make fun of him because he has Asperger's, which is a disgusting thing to do.
[00:25:01]  Every person that I know that has Asperger's, they're some of the most wonderful, beautiful, and quite honestly, unbelievably brilliant people.
[00:25:08]  The smartest person I know in the world, which I will not say on air, has Asperger's.
[00:25:13]  He is a machine.
[00:25:15]  Stays focused on one topic for a long period of time, which is a challenge that some people to Aspergers have, but he is just an awesome, unbelievably brilliant person with an IQ that is like double that of a regular person.
[00:25:29]  So what does he do next?
[00:25:30]  Well, if you know anything about Elon Musk, let me complete the point, is that Elon doesn't really care about his money.
[00:25:36]  You know, Elon doesn't own homes.
[00:25:38]  He just stays at friends' homes.
[00:25:40]  Elon owns a jet, and he says he only has that for utility purposes.
[00:25:45]  Elon's worth $250, $260 billion.
[00:25:48]  He has companies that the federal government needs, SpaceX, in order for them to achieve their Greta Thunberg green agenda.
[00:25:56]  They need electric vehicles.
[00:25:59]  So what does Elon want?
[00:26:02]  I think Elon, I think he wants his civilization back.
[00:26:08]  I think Elon doesn't care how many zeros he has in his bank account.
[00:26:11]  He's the world's richest man.
[00:26:13]  And that's not how he measures success.
[00:26:19]  Based on everything I've read and studied about Elon, and trust me, we just have to keep on repeating this because I get such nasty email about him sometimes.
[00:26:25]  I don't agree with him on everything.
[00:26:27]  I disagree with him on a lot, obviously.
[00:26:31]  But I just, I think his heart is in the place where, like, I just want humanity to be able to prosper and thrive.
[00:26:39]  Is he still tweeting?
[00:26:40]  My goodness.
[00:26:42]  There was a meme on Twitter where basically it shows that Elon Musk is using SpaceX, Tesla, boring Neuralink Twitter to try to save humanity.
[00:26:54]  His intentions may actually lead to something meaningful.
[00:26:59]  Now, for some of you that are still cynical about Elon, why else would he be doing this?
[00:27:04]  He is getting investigated by every regulatory agency.
[00:27:07]  He's being attacked by every single media outlet imaginable.
[00:27:10]  He's now calling the Trump-Russia thing a hoax and saying that the media concocted the whole thing.
[00:27:18]  I'll be very honest, Elon, you could have sacked that one out.
[00:27:20]  You don't have to weigh in on every story.
[00:27:22]  I think it's great that you are, but that's one that's going to really animate the left.
[00:27:27]  I could just see the front page of the New Yorker in two weeks.
[00:27:31]  One week.
[00:27:32]  What happened to Elon?
[00:27:35]  Has that story been written, Connor?
[00:27:38]  I just have a feeling it already has.
[00:27:40]  How the world's richest man descended in a outright QAnon rabbit hole on Twitter.
[00:27:50]  They're going to throw sex scandals at him, call him a racist, a radical, all of which I believe are baseless and false.
[00:27:57]  I don't know if the accusation on him in the Business Insider thing is...
[00:28:00]  What I do, we know what this is.
[00:28:03]  Of course.
[00:28:04]  Someone emailed us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:28:07]  Ron from Florida, can he run for president?
[00:28:09]  I don't think he can because he wasn't born in America, but don't hold me to that.
[00:28:14]  Someone said that the other day, and I wasn't sure, so we'll have our fact-checking team look through that.
[00:28:20]  Connor's and Elon is meeting with Bolsonaro today in Brazil.
[00:28:28]  That'll really upset him.
[00:28:29]  He's launching Starlink in Brazil.
[00:28:33]  It's a fascinating thing to witness.
[00:28:36]  So I just want to offer my services to Mr. Musk.
[00:28:40]  He can come on this program at any time.
[00:28:43]  We could give him some wisdom on how to deal with all these degenerative animals.
[00:28:48]  There's some topics I think that he's just got to keep on weighing in on.
[00:28:51]  It seems as if even he's a political moderate.
[00:28:53]  I don't care.
[00:28:55]  I don't care if I agree with somebody.
[00:28:57]  You know how many guests we have on our program where I don't agree with them on everything?
[00:29:01]  And I try to find agreement on the topics and the issues.
[00:29:03]  I don't want this to be a debate show.
[00:29:05]  I have a different show for a debate show.
[00:29:07]  I don't have people on to disagree unless it's long form.
[00:29:09]  I think it's on radio.
[00:29:10]  It's a total waste of time.
[00:29:11]  But I want to win.
[00:29:14]  Do you think that the conservative movement or the freedom movement, do you think our chances of winning increase or decrease if we have Elon on our team?
[00:29:26]  Do you think we are more likely to defeat the left and these woke activists and the woke pathogen, the woke virus, if we have Elon team or Elon's on our team or their team?
[00:29:42]  Elon is a defector from the Borg and from the orthodoxy.
[00:29:50]  And he is showing no signs of slowing down.
[00:29:54]  Literally the richest man on earth.
[00:29:58]  Welcome aboard, Elon.
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[00:30:52]  I want to give you some hope.
[00:30:53]  It's not just the hope of the Elon thing.
[00:30:54]  Someone email me freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:30:56]  Charlie, can you give us some hope?
[00:30:58]  Really sweet email.
[00:30:59]  Will you continue to talk about the hope?
[00:31:01]  Charlie, I have hope in my Lord Savior Jesus Christ.
[00:31:03]  Amen.

=== Hope For The Nation (05:16) ===

[00:31:04]  I know he wants to save America, but he won't go against free will.
[00:31:08]  Double amen.
[00:31:09]  Can you please and continue to share with your audience the hope that we as Americans have for our republic and our freedom?
[00:31:15]  I think, and look, I'm not going to get into the whole free will thing too deeply theologically.
[00:31:19]  I am a believer in free will.
[00:31:20]  I believe we have free will.
[00:31:21]  I believe God gives us agency.
[00:31:23]  There's a lot of people that listen to this program that do not have that belief.
[00:31:26]  They do not think that you have free will, or they might have different opinions on how much free will you have.
[00:31:32]  I'm open to be corrected on that.
[00:31:34]  I have pretty convinced, but I'm not going to go either way on that.
[00:31:39]  But I do believe this idea of seemingly infinite outcomes for a particular situation actually at least gives you some promise and gives you some opportunity and some magic and mystery for how things might end up.
[00:31:59]  And I think this Elon chapter is just one of the more exciting things that I've seen, not just because of world's richest man coming on team anti-woke and he's standing against it, but all the sub-kind of decisions that are made out of this, the reason you have despair, why would somebody have despair about America?
[00:32:20]  Because you think the downfall is inevitable or certain.
[00:32:24]  You despair when you think that, or you have anxiety when you have thoughts about the future that you think are irreversible or unchangeable.
[00:32:36]  The minute I might tell you that there actually is more risk and flex in those joints, that there actually is more opportunity for maybe an inconclusive outcome or a revival or for people to act a certain way, all of a sudden your cynicism can turn to doubt.
[00:32:54]  Doubt is a lot better than cynicism.
[00:32:57]  I have my doubts about the future of America, obviously.
[00:33:01]  But what I'm trying to say is that the future is not fixed for the country.
[00:33:06]  Now, theologically, as a Christian, I do believe the ultimate future is fixed.
[00:33:10]  The Bible is very clear about that.
[00:33:12]  There's no debate about it.
[00:33:13]  However, in the time being that we're here, the future of the nation, the future of your life, the future of your family, it's not fixed.
[00:33:21]  It's incumbent on your own agency, your own decision.
[00:33:24]  What are you going to prioritize?
[00:33:26]  And a lot of that actually comes down to your own individual mindset.
[00:33:30]  What is the attitude?
[00:33:31]  And I like that even better than mindset, because you can have wacky thoughts, you can have good thoughts, you can have bad thoughts, but an attitude transcends that.
[00:33:40]  An attitude is a general disposition towards how you want things to go or how you want to conduct yourself.
[00:33:47]  Is the attitude that you have towards the future of America, is it completely and totally pessimistic?
[00:33:54]  And now, I'm not saying you have to be optimistic if you don't believe it.
[00:33:58]  I'm not asking you to believe something that you don't believe, but I do think it is a moral necessity to have an attitude of the willingness that your actions matter and that things can change for the positive.
[00:34:14]  What I'm asking is that I think America has so much political despair because of a lack of open-heartedness and mindedness that things might not actually end up being as bad as you think they will be.
[00:34:26]  And that's a big ask, by the way.
[00:34:29]  I have to check and balance that in my life all the time.
[00:34:32]  And to Brendan's question, how do you talk about that hope?
[00:34:37]  Well, one of the great hopes I can give you for the nation is that the outcome hasn't yet been determined.
[00:34:46]  For every negative, there could be a positive.
[00:34:49]  For COVID, we got online learning.
[00:34:52]  For Biden, we got a stronger Republican Party.
[00:34:55]  Now, is that an immediate positive?
[00:34:58]  Of course not.
[00:34:58]  Obviously, we're all suffering under this garbage, more people suffering than others.
[00:35:04]  But if we believe that there could be a potential seeded equivalent benefit and our attitude and our disposition is at least an open-mindedness that better days could be ahead, that is the first step towards actually improving the country.
[00:35:19]  You just have to allow yourself, and I will say it does take a little bit of internal courage to think you might be wrong that America is going to smash into a million pieces.
[00:35:31]  You could call it doomerism, that no matter what, you think things are just going to kind of collapse, no matter what, it's all going to go and just be worse than ever.
[00:35:41]  You could be right, but don't be certain of that.
[00:35:45]  The moment you are certain about that, you are less engaged, less active, less happy, less wise.
[00:35:51]  My ask for you is just to have a little bit of the courage and a little bit of the willingness to believe that the outcome has not yet been determined of this nation, theologically separate issue.
[00:36:03]  I think that can give you a lot of hope.
[00:36:06]  That'll actually make you a happier warrior along the way.
[00:36:09]  Thank you so much for listening.
[00:36:10]  Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:36:13]  Thanks so much for listening.
[00:36:14]  God bless.
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