The Charlie Kirk Show - How the Church Can Build Something New in America—LIVE from Cornerstone Church in Fresno, California
Aired: 2022-05-08
Duration: 01:13:17


=== Hope Happens at Turning Point USA (01:20) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, happy Sunday.
[00:00:01]  My conversation at Cornerstone Church in Fresno, California.
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[00:00:13]  Is there hope for California?
[00:00:14]  That and so much more.
[00:00:15]  But first, I want to tell you guys to get involved with Turning Point USA.
[00:00:18]  As you know, Turning Point USA is America's best hope.
[00:00:22]  We're making hope happen at tpusa.com.
[00:00:25]  Our high school and college students are fighting on the front lines for America, for liberty, for freedom, where it matters most.
[00:00:31]  It's tpusa.com.
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[00:00:42]  Go to tpusa.com slash ywls.
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=== Starting a Bottom-Up Revolution (10:58) ===

[00:01:20]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:01:21]  Here we go.
[00:01:22]  Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
[00:01:24]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
[00:01:26]  I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
[00:01:30]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:01:33]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:01:34]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:01:35]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
[00:01:43]  We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
[00:01:52]  That's why we are here.
[00:01:55]  Well, welcome to Fresno.
[00:01:56]  First time to be in our big city.
[00:01:59]  Awesome to be here.
[00:01:59]  Thank you.
[00:02:00]  It's, you know, you and I were talking backstage.
[00:02:03]  The left, they could be tricksters.
[00:02:04]  I'll tell you what.
[00:02:06]  We had 7,000 reservations for this event, and you can never tell.
[00:02:10]  Imagine being so, such an awful person that you try to take tickets away from other people.
[00:02:15]  Anyway, we were going backstage.
[00:02:17]  You're like, well, we could kind of spend all of our time on how the left tried to derail this event because that's what they do.
[00:02:22]  They do tickets to try to prevent other people from coming and making it seem as if it's going to be, you know, the way it is.
[00:02:28]  Anyway, I said, but you know what?
[00:02:29]  Look at all these amazing people that are here right now.
[00:02:31]  We're going to have a great event.
[00:02:32]  So that's what we're going to do.
[00:02:34]  So so you guys got the intimate seats here.
[00:02:38]  And just think about this now.
[00:02:40]  Think how special you are.
[00:02:41]  Charlie travels all over the country to packed auditoriums that you got to share him with thousands of people.
[00:02:48]  And you get to spend an intimate night with him here.
[00:02:52]  And we said somebody's lives tonight is going to change.
[00:02:56]  I know that because the enemy would love to, you know, throw division and rancor and all that.
[00:03:00]  So I don't know who you are, but whoever that is, your life is going to change tonight.
[00:03:04]  So excited to get going.
[00:03:05]  So you're here on purpose.
[00:03:07]  I'll just say that.
[00:03:08]  Okay, so let's get started, Charlie.
[00:03:11]  You're in California now, the People's Republic.
[00:03:14]  There you go.
[00:03:15]  So how do you see California?
[00:03:18]  Because I'll take advantage of you.
[00:03:20]  Travel everywhere and that.
[00:03:22]  Describe California as people outside of California see California.
[00:03:26]  Boy, how do I see California?
[00:03:31]  Yeah, I have to, I feel as if I have to show my passport when I land in California.
[00:03:36]  It's a like a separate country.
[00:03:38]  I will say this.
[00:03:38]  I think California is, first of all, just objectively one of the most beautiful places on the planet.
[00:03:44]  It really is.
[00:03:44]  I have a theory about California, which is how much does weather mean to a human being?
[00:03:51]  Because everything else is terrible.
[00:03:53]  The schools are awful.
[00:03:54]  The church, some of the churches are good, but the schools are awful.
[00:03:57]  The roads are terrible.
[00:03:58]  Taxes are terrible.
[00:03:59]  You know, people are leaving the state, but it's the mornings.
[00:04:01]  I mean, come on.
[00:04:02]  I mean, and I don't know, a lesser extent here in the Central Valley, but in Orange County, they always say, but the weather is worth the 13% income tax and the terrible politics.
[00:04:12]  But look, I look at California as an opportunity.
[00:04:15]  I'm an optimist.
[00:04:16]  I think that things are starting to turn in a favorable and better direction right now in our country.
[00:04:20]  I really do.
[00:04:22]  And look, California obviously has its problems, but it also has its fighters.
[00:04:27]  Looking, you know, I live in Arizona, looking into California, I see the most brave and courageous pastors in America, one of them on stage with me, by the way, are here in California.
[00:04:38]  I see people that are fighting, even though they've been told there's no way they can win, that the cost is overwhelming.
[00:04:45]  And so, look, as an onlooker to this beautiful and this wonderful state, I understand that it can be frustrating, that you might be outnumbered, but we're called to continue to fight.
[00:04:56]  We're called to hate evil and to do good.
[00:04:59]  And look, California has its own wackiness, obviously, its own corruption embedded in it.
[00:05:05]  But I could say this: that America would be a substantially less free country as a whole if it wasn't for the heroes and the fighters in the grassroots here in this beautiful state.
[00:05:15]  I truly believe that.
[00:05:17]  So, let me give you my theory, since you didn't ask for it, but I have the microphone.
[00:05:23]  So, we had our governor, when he was the mayor of San Francisco, stand up on the steps of City Hall, San Francisco, and say, as goes California, so goes the rest of the nation.
[00:05:35]  Sadly, we kind of saw that because we saw California values, San Francisco values, migrate to Washington, D.C. Everything from the Speaker of the House to obviously with the vice president and several of the staff that was here in Sacramento now has migrated there and become a part of the administration.
[00:05:55]  But with those policies that have been implemented, it seems with the change that is happening now across the country, and people then are rejecting those policies, and thus what we're going to see in the midterm election.
[00:06:08]  Do you think that now is going to come back to California?
[00:06:11]  That as goes the rest of the nation, so could go California?
[00:06:16]  I'll be honest, not immediately.
[00:06:18]  I think that you'll start to see some gains and some traction.
[00:06:21]  California is a long-term project.
[00:06:25]  There's a great verse in Nehemiah, I think, which is, do not belabor the days of long work.
[00:06:31]  You know the verse I'm talking about when they're rebuilding the temple under Zeribbabell's leadership, and they're like, This is taking forever.
[00:06:38]  And it's like, well, that good things take a long time.
[00:06:41]  And look, California was not lost in an election, and it won't be retaken in an election.
[00:06:46]  This was a long-term project.
[00:06:47]  But look, I mean, the question is: what is rock bottom in California?
[00:06:52]  And everyone has their own theory, right?
[00:06:54]  Kind of when the homeless guy defecates on your front lawn, maybe that's rock bottom.
[00:06:58]  I don't know.
[00:06:59]  That's happening more and more in San Francisco.
[00:07:01]  And in, I was just in Berkeley.
[00:07:03]  No exaggeration, super dark place, spiritually dark in a lot of different ways.
[00:07:08]  But look, I think that in order for California to be a freer state, it has to start local.
[00:07:15]  I think that, you know, kind of making some appropriate changes here on the city council level in Fresno would be a good start, especially for the incredible story here of another church that's being totally targeted by the local city council.
[00:07:31]  If you're not aware of this story, I encourage you to check it out.
[00:07:34]  It's just terrible what the local city council is doing.
[00:07:36]  So we need to focus on the hyper-local first and foremost.
[00:07:40]  And I think that this city in particular is being misrepresented by a lot of the people in City Hall here.
[00:07:46]  But look, I'm asked all the time, Charlie, do you think there's any hope for California?
[00:07:50]  And my answer is always the same: we have to make our own hope happen.
[00:07:54]  There, we have to obviously fast and pray for the nation and the land that we're in, but we also have to do things that actually make a substantial difference.
[00:08:03]  No longer be a spectator, but be a participant in that.
[00:08:06]  And in some ways, that is against where a lot of conservatism has been in the recent years, where some people think that, hey, we just win a presidential election.
[00:08:16]  I can kind of take it off and I'm just going to kind of watch the rest on TV.
[00:08:19]  The left has never thought that way.
[00:08:21]  They've been in the trenches.
[00:08:22]  They've been in the schools for a long time.
[00:08:25]  And I'm starting to see a mindset shift.
[00:08:26]  I really am.
[00:08:27]  I'm starting to see after the initial shock that you're not going to get your country back in just 18 months.
[00:08:32]  Now I see conservatives putting their working boots on.
[00:08:35]  Now I see people that are willing to get into the trenches, into the grassroots, and say, look, this might take 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years, but I'm willing to do that because my grandkids are worth it because liberty is worth fighting for.
[00:08:46]  And I could tell you this, though, and we'll dive into this throughout the conversation kind of more nationally.
[00:08:54]  I don't call myself an optimist just to say it.
[00:08:59]  I have been an optimist for a long period of time because I traveled the country and I see that we have the greatest people on the planet sacrificing so much for their values.
[00:09:08]  And I've been saying this since February of last year, that there was a rumbling, that there was a stirring in our country.
[00:09:13]  And it wasn't really manifested.
[00:09:15]  It didn't manifest itself immediately.
[00:09:17]  But I said, there's something happening that will be a reaction to this regime, you know, criminalizing moms and dads showing up to school board meetings across the country.
[00:09:26]  There will be a reaction about pushing a vaccine on a population that does not need it, particularly students and young people.
[00:09:32]  And so we were always complaining, like, will there be a price to going woke and all these sorts of things?
[00:09:38]  And my goodness, in the last couple of weeks, if you just kind of take a step back, you say, wow, like Disney, they're down 20% of their market share, their market cap.
[00:09:50]  Netflix is down 40%, which is a total woke company.
[00:09:54]  CNN Plus lasted two scaramuccias, which is like 21 days.
[00:10:00]  Just gone, multi-billion dollar project.
[00:10:03]  And I know we all have mixed opinions on this individual.
[00:10:06]  I certainly do.
[00:10:07]  There's some things I really disagree with him on, but it's just, it's nothing, it's definitely entertaining.
[00:10:13]  I think it's very beneficial where the world's richest man decides to come in and just buy Twitter.
[00:10:21]  And not only that, but self-describe himself now as a conservative.
[00:10:26]  He did that today on Twitter, saying that free speech is a fundamental human right.
[00:10:30]  There's something happening here where all of a sudden the people in charge, the power brokers, the ruling class, the elites, they're not going according to plan.
[00:10:39]  And here's how you know.
[00:10:41]  If their victory was inevitable, then their propaganda would not be necessary.
[00:10:48]  I'm going to say that again.
[00:10:49]  You want me to say that again?
[00:10:50]  Say it again.
[00:10:51]  All right.
[00:10:51]  If their victory was inevitable, their propaganda would not be necessary.
[00:10:57]  If it was a sure thing they were going to win, they would not have to keep on filling our airwaves with garbage every single day.
[00:11:03]  They'd have to keep on lying to us.
[00:11:05]  They know there's a chance they could lose.
[00:11:07]  In fact, they know there's a greater chance that they're going to kind of lose their entire current monopoly over power here in our country.
[00:11:16]  And how is one supposed to get the news out?
[00:11:18]  Well, CNN Plus fails.
[00:11:19]  Disney, Netflix, all this.
[00:11:20]  Twitter is now in complete jeopardy.
[00:11:22]  It's like the Wild West.
[00:11:23]  I don't know if you've gone on Twitter the last couple of days.
[00:11:24]  It's awesome.
[00:11:25]  It's like you can actually speak your mind again.
[00:11:28]  But this is not motivated from the top down.
[00:11:31]  This is a bottom-up revolution.
[00:11:33]  These are a revolution in a peaceful and a meaningful way, not the type that the left always tries to throw at us, but one that is one where we're building things and we're unafraid to proclaim the truth.
[00:11:45]  And so you're just beginning to see the early stages of what I believe will be a first a couple year, then a multi-decade citizen rising movement where all of a sudden the game gets changed permanently.
[00:12:01]  And what a time to be alive.
[00:12:02]  We feel thankful that we get to live through this.
[00:12:05]  And it's the things that it's a thing that historians will write about for generations to come.
[00:12:10]  So what were some of the catalysts that you think that brought about this change that motivated what we're seeing everywhere from entertainment to media?
[00:12:18]  Yeah, so two things.

=== Doing Right Over Popular Opinion (03:00) ===

[00:12:19]  First is the laws of reality.
[00:12:21]  So we as Christians, we believe in the laws of nature and nature is God.
[00:12:25]  It says that in the Declaration of Independence.
[00:12:27]  But we believe in the God of order.
[00:12:28]  We do not believe in a God of chaos.
[00:12:30]  The enemy sows chaos and our Lord is a God of order.
[00:12:34]  So when an organization or a movement, a celebrity decides to sow chaos against order and they institutionalize it, that will not be rewarded by the laws of nature and nature is God.
[00:12:45]  No, a simple law of nature that we believe in is the law of gravity, right?
[00:12:48]  So you try to just throw yourself into the Grand Canyon, it's not going to work well, right?
[00:12:52]  Well, also when you try to all of a sudden say men can become pregnant, or if you say things as ridiculous as America is the most racist country in the world, that's unsustainable.
[00:13:01]  It might sound good in a talking point on MSNBC, might make you feel good, but eventually there will be a reaction to not making yourself bound to those pesky shackles of reality, right?
[00:13:15]  And that's part of it is just, I just kind of call it civilizational gravity, that you cannot build an entire organization and insist that you can't tell me what a woman is, like Katangi Brown Jackson.
[00:13:26]  I'm not a biologist, so I can't tell you what a woman is.
[00:13:29]  Like that's not a winning formula for success.
[00:13:33]  Or trying to tell an entire country that where we have our beautiful veterans that serve so much for our flag, that actually you want to go fight for something that's colonialist, homophobic, racist.
[00:13:44]  Like that's actually not really popular.
[00:13:46]  People want to be proud of where they're from.
[00:13:47]  They want to be proud of the flag that they see.
[00:13:50]  They understand the flaws.
[00:13:51]  They're not dumb, but they also don't want to just be beat over the head as if you're some sort of terrible person because you stand for the flags and you don't take a knee.
[00:13:58]  And so part of this is kind of this force of gravity, but it's a combination, right?
[00:14:03]  So whatever goes woke will go broke because actually no one wants to go watch the Netflix series called He's Expecting.
[00:14:09]  It's a real thing.
[00:14:11]  Like no one's like, yeah, you know, that's why I'm a Netflix subscriber.
[00:14:14]  Like, no, that's why they lost 200,000 subscribers.
[00:14:16]  And honestly, this is also exactly why many of you are now against Disney because they're pushing an incredibly radical sexual agenda on five-year-olds.
[00:14:26]  And that's not okay.
[00:14:27]  And that's just a very basic moral question, regardless of when you think sexual education should be talked to kids.
[00:14:33]  Any decent person, not five-year-olds, or like maybe a teenager, maybe 12, 13, I think it has no place in our schools whatsoever.
[00:14:39]  I think it's a parental issue, but you might have some nuance in it, right?
[00:14:44]  Like maybe it's for 12 or 13, but like no one in their right mind says a five-year-old should be learning about puberty blockers, lesbian sex, and a transition closet, which is what's happening in many schools.
[00:14:54]  But then the second part of why it's not just the force of gravity, but then it's those of you that have been pushing back against their seeming monopoly over our kind of institutions, which is you've decided, many of you, to do what is right more than what is popular.
[00:15:10]  And that really is the winning formula, right?
[00:15:13]  It is impossible to get the country back and all the while win all approval all the time by the newspapers, by social media.

=== Freedom From Social Media Approval (04:31) ===

[00:15:20]  You're going to have to make some people irritated or annoyed.
[00:15:24]  Not because that's what your heart is.
[00:15:26]  Your heart should never be to annoy people.
[00:15:28]  But if it's a byproduct of telling the truth, that's not your problem.
[00:15:31]  That's their problem, right?
[00:15:33]  And so if you look at it, the left, if you will, the secular left, they have weaponized name-calling in our country to such a, so brutally, where the way to get someone to stop fighting for what they believe in is to call them a bad name.
[00:15:49]  You're a racist.
[00:15:50]  You're a bigot.
[00:15:51]  You're a, I'm like, hold on a second.
[00:15:52]  No, I'm not.
[00:15:52]  Like, where do I donate money?
[00:15:53]  I'll put a sign in my yard.
[00:15:55]  Maybe a bumper sticker.
[00:15:56]  Here's my black square on my social media.
[00:15:58]  I'll wear two masks when I shower.
[00:16:00]  And please, like, anything.
[00:16:02]  Just don't call me those terrible names, anti-science.
[00:16:05]  And in reality, we think you should understand those names mean nothing.
[00:16:08]  They should mean nothing to you.
[00:16:09]  Those are nothing more than baseless slings of the arrows from the enemy to try to have you stop fighting for truth and righteousness.
[00:16:16]  If you take away name-calling, they have very little power.
[00:16:20]  I mean, they have some power, right?
[00:16:22]  That's not no power.
[00:16:23]  They could fire you from your job if you don't get a vaccine.
[00:16:25]  They could kick you off social media.
[00:16:26]  But I think we'd all agree the greatest power they have over us is that we're afraid to speak our mind because of public approval or sentiment or not being invited to a certain party.
[00:16:35]  And that's okay.
[00:16:35]  I'm not actually insulting you.
[00:16:37]  We all go through this, myself included.
[00:16:39]  There's times when I'm around family members.
[00:16:40]  I'm like, I don't want to talk politics.
[00:16:42]  You're all there, right?
[00:16:43]  We get it because they're going to be the first one to be like, that's a racist thing to say.
[00:16:46]  Like, I don't have the patience, right?
[00:16:48]  But in reality, when we cross that Rubicon, when we take that leap of faith as our faith actually instructs us, that is what weakens them and empowers our cause more than anything else.
[00:16:59]  Have you found?
[00:17:03]  Have you found that when you step across that line, when again, that fear is there, I don't want to be identified this way.
[00:17:10]  I don't want to be called that way.
[00:17:12]  But once you step across that line, step through that barrier, you suddenly realize it's not what they said it was going to be.
[00:17:19]  And you find that there is allies on the other side that are saying, oh, I'm finally glad somebody else stood up and said, what is truth?
[00:17:27]  Yes, it's total freedom.
[00:17:29]  I do three podcasts a day, three hours of radio a day, traveling the country always.
[00:17:34]  And I know a lot of other people in media and they work for certain organizations and they're always reaching out like, wow, Charlie, like you really speak your mind.
[00:17:42]  I say, yeah, because I don't have to report to somebody if I say something wrong.
[00:17:48]  Like I'm not going to like to have to, you know, if I say something incorrect, I'll be the first one to apologize to you.
[00:17:55]  But if I say something true and you don't like it, like, all right, whatever.
[00:17:59]  There's a sense of freedom and a sense of peace that I want for all of you in your life, where all of a sudden you do not care about what they could do to you.
[00:18:08]  And that's not to say that you might not be in that situation right now.
[00:18:11]  I understand that.
[00:18:12]  There might be an employer.
[00:18:13]  There might be somebody that might be threatening.
[00:18:15]  But I do not believe that's how God actually wants you to live his life.
[00:18:19]  You know, the story of the Old Testament largely is God giving abundant grace and delivering God's chosen people from tyranny into freedom, even though they didn't deserve it.
[00:18:29]  And it's kind of kept on getting messed up because God's chosen people kept on going through the cycle of sin of getting freedom, not wanting it anymore, complaining about who brought them.
[00:18:37]  Like, who's this Moses guy?
[00:18:38]  Bring us back to slavery.
[00:18:40]  And them then going back to some form of bondage, getting delivered again.
[00:18:45]  And thankfully, we don't have to worry about it anymore.
[00:18:47]  We have Jesus Christ to set us free from our sins.
[00:18:50]  So we don't have to worry about that kind of whole cycle of destruction.
[00:18:54]  But God does not wish for you to live in a state of perpetual cultural or relational fear, to have to walk on eggshells for your beliefs.
[00:19:02]  That's not God's wish for humanity.
[00:19:04]  In fact, he loves you so much, he wants you to be at a place of peace.
[00:19:08]  That was Christ's promise to us, by the way, that you can have peace.
[00:19:12]  And I think that gets misapplied at times where people think it's like peace between the nations.
[00:19:16]  That's probably true.
[00:19:17]  But first, let's have peace in your soul.
[00:19:19]  And an unsettled soul is one where you know you believe something and you're not able to vocalize it.
[00:19:25]  The most unhappy people in the world are people that have a strongly held belief and they feel as if they can't tell anybody.
[00:19:33]  And so one of my kind of charges for you tonight is, I want that kind of freedom for you.
[00:19:37]  Say, Charlie, how do I get it?
[00:19:38]  Here's the cool thing.
[00:19:39]  You just choose.
[00:19:41]  That's it.
[00:19:41]  You just choose that speaking your mind or doing what is right matters more than whatever the earthly, momentary or quickly vanishing social acceptance might get you.

=== Parents Prioritizing Their Children's Education (14:55) ===

[00:19:52]  I've noticed in obviously watching what you do when those that come to confront you and they have the talking points that they've heard and everything.
[00:20:02]  But then when you simply respond to them, they usually don't have a follow-up.
[00:20:07]  It's very shallow what the left is doing.
[00:20:11]  And if we just have that, like I say, just do it.
[00:20:14]  Just take that next step.
[00:20:15]  Do it in love, but do it with boldness.
[00:20:18]  Let me ask about the education system because one of the things that the strength of the left has been what they've done to our children and what they've done to education, what is now not education, but indoctrination.
[00:20:31]  That seems to be, though, where they have lost the battle or another one of the catalysts is because they overplayed their hand in what they've done in education that has caused parents to rise up.
[00:20:43]  Yeah, that's a great point.
[00:20:45]  And so I had a mom activist that came up to me the other day and she said, Charlie, I never cared about politics, but as soon as I found out that they were distributing puberty blockers in my kid's school and that my kid was asking questions of whether or not he could be a boy or a girl, I really didn't do much thinking.
[00:21:08]  Just kind of this inexplicable primal instinct kicked in.
[00:21:12]  And I don't really remember what happened after.
[00:21:16]  And I thought to myself, what another dumb move by the left to activate something that truly is primal, right?
[00:21:24]  Where when we were not as civilized as we are now, and the men were out hunting and gathering and the moms had to defend the children against an invader or against a threat, right?
[00:21:36]  That sort of God-given protective instinct has all of a sudden now been activated amongst millions of people all across the country.
[00:21:45]  And so when you see the kind of like the San Francisco men's choir, an all-gay choir, come out and they say, we are going to convert your children.
[00:21:56]  Literally, that's their singiness over and over again.
[00:21:58]  Like, I don't think that all of a sudden we need like a long form Socratic debate over whether or not, I just think moms all of a sudden say, I know this is wrong and you're not going to, you are not going to take the innocence of my child.
[00:22:11]  It's not going to happen.
[00:22:12]  And we're seeing that in every community across the country.
[00:22:15]  And it's profound and it's real and it's growing.
[00:22:19]  And honestly, I'll be very, it's beautiful.
[00:22:21]  Like that's very biblical, by the way.
[00:22:24]  I would be depressed and cynical if this was happening and parents were okay with it.
[00:22:29]  Now, there's some parents that are, we know that, but a vast majority aren't.
[00:22:33]  A vast majority of parents love their kids.
[00:22:35]  They don't quite understand the problems of the education system as intimately as we do.
[00:22:39]  That's okay.
[00:22:40]  We can help you navigate that.
[00:22:42]  But they know what's wrong when they see it.
[00:22:44]  And many of them, and this is an unintended blessing and benefit of the Chinese Fauci coronavirus, is the fact that many parents all of a sudden started to hear what their kids were learning in Zoom class.
[00:22:59]  And they're like, that teacher has no idea what they're talking about.
[00:23:03]  And I'm not going to, so they sort of show up at school board meetings like, hey, excuse me, why is this teacher, you know, this 27-year-old punk, telling my eight-year-old that like, if they want to, they could chemically castrate themselves.
[00:23:16]  And the school board's like, get the police officer, this person's spreading hate speech.
[00:23:20]  And like, yeah, the next month, the mom shows up with like 500 moms, right?
[00:23:24]  And this happened everywhere.
[00:23:25]  And for whatever reason, it perplexes me, the left can't quite figure out where this has come from.
[00:23:32]  And I think it is something that deserves our appreciation and our pause when all of a sudden you see a revival of parents prioritizing the education of their children to such an extent that they don't care of the consequences.
[00:23:47]  They just don't.
[00:23:48]  And so the education system has become a racket.
[00:23:51]  It's a cartel.
[00:23:52]  We all know that.
[00:23:53]  This is why homeschooling has quadrupled in the last couple of years, a year and a half.
[00:23:59]  It's a phenomenal thing, the quadrupling of American homeschooling.
[00:24:03]  And so, look, the government education system, I don't even call it the public education system because it doesn't serve the public good anymore, whether it be the lack of literacy, the lack of math, mathematical ability, or scientific ability in some of our nation's schools.
[00:24:16]  These are government schools for the aim of trying to create obedient government technocrats in the future.
[00:24:22]  If it served the public good, I would call it that.
[00:24:24]  And even some private schools aren't so good anymore, as I'm sure many of you know, unfortunately.
[00:24:29]  But they're slipping.
[00:24:30]  They're falling.
[00:24:32]  And this movement of parental rights and education is not going away.
[00:24:36]  And so the wonderful Ron DeSantis, I mean, how great is Ron DeSantis, by the way?
[00:24:39]  Isn't he amazing?
[00:24:40]  Just incredible.
[00:24:43]  He passes like the most boring bill ever, like super boring.
[00:24:47]  Like you ask 99% of people in Fresno, they'd be like, why is this even controversial?
[00:24:51]  Like get away from me.
[00:24:52]  Like, of course, obviously, which is super simple, right?
[00:24:54]  Like five, six, and seven-year-olds should not be taught about transgenderism or sexual matters.
[00:24:58]  Okay, that's it.
[00:24:59]  Like should not be taught about gender.
[00:25:01]  You could read the bill yourself.
[00:25:02]  It's seven pages.
[00:25:03]  And then the other part is that if health treatment is given to kids, parents have to be notified.
[00:25:07]  Okay?
[00:25:08]  That's it.
[00:25:09]  And so it was called the Parental Rights and Education Bill.
[00:25:12]  And so this passes, and Disney acted as if that somehow this was like a Jim Crow 2.0 against trans people or whatever.
[00:25:20]  And they start running these advertisements, like this is a war on trans people.
[00:25:23]  Like, excuse me, like, how is not teaching five-year-olds about these very, albeit confusing and highly politicized radical matters, an attack on trans people?
[00:25:34]  And then what was amazing is you saw so many teachers come out and be like, I will not know how to teach my kindergartners anymore about math.
[00:25:41]  Like, that tells me a lot about what you were actually doing in math class.
[00:25:45]  If you're not allowed to talk about like, anyway, I don't even want to talk about it in public.
[00:25:50]  It's like really disgusting, honestly.
[00:25:52]  Like, that's what we used to have words for people like this.
[00:25:54]  And you could fill them in.
[00:25:55]  It's not right.
[00:25:56]  And so, but then most Americans look at this and you feel as if you feel like you're losing your mind at times and you watch the news.
[00:26:02]  It's okay.
[00:26:02]  It's part.
[00:26:02]  It's actually part of the design.
[00:26:03]  They want you to feel that way.
[00:26:05]  You're like, wait a second, there's nothing controversial about this.
[00:26:07]  Like five, six, and seven-year-olds deserve to be protected in their innocent state.
[00:26:10]  I'm not going to apologize for that.
[00:26:12]  Then Disney, you know, does this whole thing where they're like threatening against the governor of governor Florida?
[00:26:18]  And honestly, Ron DeSantis responded correctly.
[00:26:20]  He told them to cut it out.
[00:26:21]  They didn't.
[00:26:22]  He told him to cut it out again.
[00:26:23]  He didn't.
[00:26:23]  And so he treated Disney like a child because Disney doesn't care about children anymore.
[00:26:27]  Said, okay, what do you do when a child misbehaves after the first couple of times?
[00:26:31]  He punished him, put in time out.
[00:26:32]  And he said, okay, Disney, you're losing your $200 million a year tax bonus from the special carve out from the people of Florida.
[00:26:39]  Like, okay, you're now going to go after the children of Florida and act as if we're the enemies.
[00:26:43]  In Disney now, they say that 50% of their characters are going to be trans or gay in their children stuff by the end of this year on Disney Plus.
[00:26:50]  50%.
[00:26:51]  They've come out and they've said they're going to dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars to transgender programming over the next couple of years.
[00:26:57]  And that when you go to Disney World, they're not going to say, welcome boys and girls.
[00:27:00]  They're going to say, welcome people of the world, right?
[00:27:03]  They're not going to say that women have birth, but they're birthing people.
[00:27:05]  Like this is now Disney, right?
[00:27:07]  Which is talking more like a radical Berkeley, you know, activist group than a media company.
[00:27:14]  One final thought on Disney before I close the point on DeSantis.
[00:27:16]  What really frustrates me is they made billions of dollars on your trust.
[00:27:22]  You trusted them.
[00:27:23]  So when you turned on Disney Plus, you assumed it was innocent content and you were able to maybe get some work done or, you know, maybe make dinner while your kids were watching Disney.
[00:27:32]  And they robbed you blind while you gave them your trust.
[00:27:36]  And I believe that's where a lot of our anger is.
[00:27:38]  I think a lot of our anger is rooted in the fact that they got rich while we thought they were the family-friendly safe zone.
[00:27:45]  And honestly, there deserves to be a price for that.
[00:27:48]  That is a very immoral thing to do, to get rich while benefiting off of parents trusting you.
[00:27:55]  So look, DeSantis got rid of their $200 million loophole in that.
[00:27:58]  And so I could dive further in education.
[00:28:01]  I could dive what the purpose actually is into it if you want.
[00:28:04]  But this is one of the most important fights happening in America.
[00:28:06]  So you mentioned during the pandemic that suddenly parents got an opportunity via Zoom to look into really what their child was because now instead of asking the teacher, they're turning to mom and dad and asking these questions.
[00:28:21]  And then we saw the transgender movement and what they were doing with our athletes of saying, wait a minute, a guy can compete against a girl.
[00:28:29]  And just the total unfairness of that, lack of justice in that, has been the thing that has caused the American people to rise up, moms and dads, to say, no, wait a minute, you're not going to do that to my kid.
[00:28:41]  So I think, again, that they overplayed their hand and interjected that now into the workplace.
[00:28:47]  Yeah, I mean, and look, I always say this before I go into the trans issue.
[00:28:53]  I don't recognize like a lot of this nonsense around this issue, but I want the best for all people.
[00:28:59]  We're all made in the image of God.
[00:29:00]  I want nothing more than people that are living under this delusion internally to try to find Jesus Christ and realize that they are living under a delusion and they need grace and compassion.
[00:29:11]  However, like we could sort that out.
[00:29:13]  We could have your own opinions on that.
[00:29:15]  I'm not going to call you by your pronouns if I see something different.
[00:29:18]  Like I'm not going to play that game.
[00:29:21]  So, however, I will say this, though, regardless of all of that, the whole kind of bargain around the trans thing was supposed to be like, let us live our life and you live yours and we'll leave each other alone, right?
[00:29:30]  That was kind of the whole thing.
[00:29:31]  And so the personal opinions aside, it kind of sounded fair.
[00:29:35]  Like, okay, you could obviously wear a dress in your own home.
[00:29:37]  You could wear a dress publicly.
[00:29:39]  We're not going to stop you.
[00:29:41]  Whatever.
[00:29:41]  Okay.
[00:29:42]  That was kind of the way.
[00:29:42]  Now, how naive, right?
[00:29:44]  We were so naive to believe that all of a sudden this was going to be the end of it.
[00:29:48]  And so what happens next?
[00:29:49]  Well, you have the 462nd best swimmer in the country who's a man, who transitions to be a woman and then wins the NCAA championship, therefore disenfranchising the other women in the NCAA championship, right?
[00:30:04]  And we're supposed to put up with this.
[00:30:05]  And so someone asked me, well, Charlie, what do you think the solution to that is?
[00:30:09]  Well, I think the solution is pretty simple, right?
[00:30:12]  Which is, you know, make the person compete against their own biological sex.
[00:30:17]  Like he could think he's a woman all day long, but you still got to compete against men.
[00:30:21]  Like it's your own delusion is not my problem, right?
[00:30:26]  It's not, and it shouldn't be your problem either.
[00:30:29]  But instead, what we've done is we've completely redesigned society to wrongly Platform and to wrongly kind of readjust to what people feel is right.
[00:30:39]  And so there's a lot, there's a lot wrong with this, obviously, on its surface level.
[00:30:44]  But what's so hilarious about this, which got me banned from Twitter originally, I'm back now.
[00:30:50]  And thanks to new management.
[00:30:53]  Our protest worked.
[00:30:55]  And so, no, this is what got me banned from Twitter, which is asking where are the feminists in this whole thing.
[00:31:00]  I mean, I remember just a couple years ago, I was there on the streets of Washington, D.C., when these like these bus filled of late teenage, early 20-something women from Ivy League schools with signs were screaming at the top of their lungs that Brett Kavanaugh's the war on women and all they're screaming in my face.
[00:31:22]  You could go watch those videos.
[00:31:23]  Many of them have gone very viral in recent years.
[00:31:25]  I remember like the whole crux of the left was like women matter and they must be protected and all this.
[00:31:32]  And obviously, I believe a lot of their critiques against the patriarchy, which I don't believe exists, by the way, was wrong.
[00:31:39]  But at least I could agree that women were a thing, right?
[00:31:42]  So, but now it's like, no, women is whatever you want.
[00:31:44]  It's me.
[00:31:44]  I'm like, that happened really quickly.
[00:31:46]  Like, you went from the political movement from like biological women must be protected against like angry men to now we must allow like terrible men to be able to abuse women.
[00:31:55]  Like, where did that happen, actually?
[00:31:57]  I actually kind of missed the feminists.
[00:31:59]  At least I agreed with them on a lot of different things, right?
[00:32:03]  At least I agreed that women was something that was biologically true.
[00:32:07]  And yes, men and women have different needs, wants, desires, and those differences must be appreciated.
[00:32:13]  And now all that's, now I have to be told, like, actually, men and women are exactly the same.
[00:32:17]  And this is taught in our schools, taught in our institutions.
[00:32:20]  And look, this is the deeper question is, what do we think of cheating, right?
[00:32:26]  Thomas, the swimmer for University of Pennsylvania, is a cheater.
[00:32:29]  There is no other way to put it.
[00:32:31]  It's that if you are going to use a structural advantage, a chromosomal advantage, and switch categories because you feel it, then feel that way, then you're cutting in line.
[00:32:41]  And so it's a very simple question, which is, do you believe you get to determine your own existence?
[00:32:46]  And the answer, of course, is no.
[00:32:47]  I mean, does a 55-year-old get to go play t-ball just because he feels that way?
[00:32:51]  No, I mean, it would be insane, right?
[00:32:54]  We wouldn't put up with that.
[00:32:55]  No, there are certain things that we are rooted to biological objective truth.
[00:33:00]  The most simple of which, by the way, is what has kind of kept civilization together, which is men and women.
[00:33:06]  And then, so now I go to Berkeley.
[00:33:07]  So when I first went to Berkeley, I get screamed at by the feminists that women are oppressed.
[00:33:12]  Now I get screamed at by the feminists that women don't exist.
[00:33:14]  Like it's just whatever you want it to be.
[00:33:16]  Or they tell me that anyone who wants to be a woman can become a woman.
[00:33:20]  Like the price of admission is just simply kind of a state of kind of mental acceptance.
[00:33:26]  And so this doesn't make sense to most Americans and it shouldn't.
[00:33:31]  In fact, you don't have to overthink it.
[00:33:33]  You don't have to spend the rest of the evening kind of dwelling on it or pondering on it.
[00:33:36]  There's two teams in America, right?
[00:33:38]  There's team liberties, liberty slash team reality.
[00:33:40]  That's us, right?
[00:33:41]  We live on team reality and team liberty, rooted in the laws of nature and nature's God, the God of order, right?
[00:33:47]  The God of structure and the God of purpose.
[00:33:50]  They are on team insanity, team tyranny, and whatever, like team chaos, whatever you want to put it, right?
[00:33:57]  And so these kind of two teams have been formed in America, and it's no longer team right or team left.
[00:34:02]  It's not even conservative or liberal, by the way.
[00:34:04]  Like who's on team reality and team liberty?
[00:34:06]  Well, we have an ever-growing roster of very fun people.
[00:34:09]  We have Joe Rogan, who's the most like successful podcaster in history, who, by the way, is far from a conservative, by the way.
[00:34:17]  But they call him like a right-winger.
[00:34:18]  Like, you don't know Joe Rogan.
[00:34:20]  Like, he's like pushing for like the decriminalization of psychedelic mushrooms.
[00:34:23]  Like, not exactly a right-winger from Alabama.
[00:34:28]  By the way, a lot of respect for Joe Rogan.
[00:34:29]  I think what he did on COVID took a lot of courage.
[00:34:32]  I have a lot of respect for Joe Rogan.
[00:34:34]  Also, on team realities, Elon Musk helps to have the world's richest man, who, by his own admission on his tweet today, he said, I used to identify as a liberal, but everyone moved and I didn't.
[00:34:42]  Now I'm like this right-winger.
[00:34:43]  It's like, okay, welcome aboard.
[00:34:45]  Like, keep buying companies that we don't like.

=== The Truth About Elon Musk (12:53) ===

[00:34:48]  That would be really helpful, right?
[00:34:49]  And by the way, if Elon was here, I would push him on a lot of different stuff.
[00:34:52]  I'd push him on the Neuralink stuff, which I think is really, really bad.
[00:34:55]  I do not like tampering with the human brain.
[00:34:57]  I'd push him on the China stuff, which I don't like how much business he does in China.
[00:35:01]  I'd push him on some of his metaphysical beliefs, which are very wacky, by the way, which he thinks we're living in a simulation.
[00:35:07]  Okay, anyway, but you can look it up.
[00:35:10]  And it's actually somewhat rational the way he's put himself into that, but it's irrational in a different way.
[00:35:15]  But I'm not going to get into that.
[00:35:17]  That's a separate thing.
[00:35:18]  But he's got eight kids.
[00:35:19]  He loves liberty.
[00:35:21]  He does not like team woke.
[00:35:23]  And honestly, I'm glad that he's on our team, right?
[00:35:26]  And so, and what I believe right now is this consolidation of those of us that don't have to overthink our positions, right?
[00:35:33]  We know that a certain certain fundamental Western values are good, such as separation of powers, consent to the governed, freedom of speech, constitutional rights, that these things deserve to be protected and preserved.
[00:35:44]  And the other team, they're just, they're getting more animated and they're getting, they're almost further entrenching their very radical position.
[00:35:53]  My money's on team reality.
[00:35:55]  So I want.
[00:35:59]  I just hope that next he's going to buy McDonald's and fix all the ice cream machines.
[00:36:04]  That's the next thing that I want him to do.
[00:36:05]  Well, can I just say one more thing on the Elon thing?
[00:36:07]  And I totally get complaints about him and all that.
[00:36:10]  But by the way the left has reacted, there's no way you could tell me that they're enjoying this.
[00:36:15]  Okay.
[00:36:16]  If you just look for a second on how the regime left has reacted to this, it's unbelievable because censorship matters to them.
[00:36:25]  How else will they be able to control a society if they can't censor us?
[00:36:30]  This idea that Elon might now open up the public square.
[00:36:34]  If you think this country is somewhat conservative now, imagine if we'll be able to speak freely online.
[00:36:41]  I want you to imagine something.
[00:36:42]  So a lot of us were really upset about how unfree America has become the last couple of years.
[00:36:48]  Lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine mandates.
[00:36:51]  Imagine if Twitter would have allowed a robust discussion on ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, early interventions.
[00:36:58]  I want you to imagine that.
[00:37:00]  Imagine if Elon will allow that according to his own position.
[00:37:04]  In fact, he said that.
[00:37:05]  That means the next time a tyrant rears his head and tries to do something irrational, Twitter can now be an open market for ideas to compete.
[00:37:13]  And guess what?
[00:37:14]  We're okay with that because our ideas are going to win.
[00:37:17]  We know that.
[00:37:18]  That's why we're unafraid.
[00:37:20]  To them, they know their ideas do not win when they are cross-examined.
[00:37:25]  They know their ideas fall apart.
[00:37:26]  So they must be able to shut us up, which is why they're reacting the way they are.
[00:37:30]  But also, this is the greatest show on earth, what you're seeing happen with Elon.
[00:37:35]  And people say, Charlie, does he even realize what he's doing and all this?
[00:37:39]  Maybe, maybe not.
[00:37:40]  If you know anything, he's admitted he has Asperger's, right?
[00:37:43]  He admitted he's like, he just focuses on something and he doesn't get off of it.
[00:37:47]  And I only say that because I don't think he cares.
[00:37:51]  I don't think he, I mean, we're near Yosemite, right?
[00:37:53]  You guys see that amazing documentary, Free Solo, right?
[00:37:57]  Right.
[00:37:57]  I mean, my amygdala was going off the entire time.
[00:38:00]  Like, I was getting nervous watching him.
[00:38:02]  If you haven't seen it, you guys all know El Capitan, right?
[00:38:05]  He climbed the whole thing with no ropes.
[00:38:06]  Totally.
[00:38:06]  So it's insane.
[00:38:07]  You watch it, you can't believe it.
[00:38:09]  But at the end of the movie, they talk to this guy.
[00:38:11]  I can't remember his name.
[00:38:11]  Someone probably knows it.
[00:38:12]  And they're like, yeah, he doesn't have in his brain like the fear gene.
[00:38:15]  It doesn't process fear.
[00:38:17]  And that's Elon Musk.
[00:38:19]  It's just like, okay, like, what are you going to do to me?
[00:38:22]  Like, I'm going to go make more rockets.
[00:38:23]  Okay.
[00:38:24]  Like, whatever.
[00:38:26]  And I think the whole thing's so exciting.
[00:38:28]  And the worst, the people that I have the most disgust for hate this.
[00:38:33]  So I love it.
[00:38:38]  Man, I got so much I want to talk to you about.
[00:38:43]  So it's amazing that the people that we can see over the last few years, you mentioned now with what Musk is doing, and then Donald Trump, which so many rejected. but yet became literally the catalyst that brought us.
[00:39:02]  And now we've got Musk, which again, well, he's not one of us, but yet is bringing that out.
[00:39:08]  Do we need to open our eyes to see perhaps the deliverers that are coming?
[00:39:13]  Well, the Bible talks about King Cyrus, who was not a Christian, but did moral and righteous and courageous things to bring God's chosen people back to Israel.
[00:39:20]  So we should be open-minded to non-Christians fighting for liberty.
[00:39:24]  You know why?
[00:39:25]  Because most Christians aren't fighting for liberty right now.
[00:39:28]  A lot of pastors aren't.
[00:39:30]  And so maybe we need a Cyrus.
[00:39:33]  And so I think it's fair to say Trump is eccentric and so is Musk.
[00:39:37]  Is that fair to say?
[00:39:38]  I'm a big fan of the eccentric, though.
[00:39:40]  Study history.
[00:39:41]  The eccentric are the only people that get good done.
[00:39:46]  Always in history, it's the eccentric.
[00:39:48]  Why?
[00:39:49]  Well, it's because they tend to de-emphasize the currency of social acceptance.
[00:39:56]  It just doesn't phase them, right?
[00:39:58]  And so instead, they just kind of focus on what they believe is good or what needs to be fixed, and they'll go about it regardless of the arrows or the slings that are thrown at them.
[00:40:07]  It is very rare to find someone who is accepted by the world in all ways and is not labeled as eccentric and will also do something largely, unexpectedly heroic.
[00:40:18]  All throughout history, Churchill was very eccentric, like extremely eccentric.
[00:40:23]  Lincoln, whoa, like very, very eccentric.
[00:40:26]  In fact, there were musings like they were like, the word wasn't weird.
[00:40:29]  It was something similar to that back then.
[00:40:31]  The eccentric get good done.
[00:40:34]  And so, but look, to your point, I think it should be kind of a wake-up call for Christians, right?
[00:40:40]  Where it's like, hey, you have secular people.
[00:40:43]  And I'm not saying Trump is secular, but he said he's a Christian, and he said as such, but he certainly doesn't talk about his faith, I think, as openly as others.
[00:40:53]  But he's, I think, been the greatest friend to Christians as a president, more so than anyone could have possibly imagined.
[00:40:58]  But some people say he's not a Christian.
[00:41:00]  I don't believe that.
[00:41:01]  But the point is this, is that whatever you believe Trump to be or whatever you believe Musk to be, he certainly possesses the courage that I would love, both of them, that I would love to see every pastor and Christian have, right?
[00:41:14]  And that's something I think we must pray and think about.
[00:41:17]  So let's talk about that then with the landscape that you have painted for us where the left is basically self-destructing and turning on themselves because they don't know what to do.
[00:41:29]  Is this now one of the greatest opportunities that the church has to rise up and to be light in the midst of this darkness?
[00:41:37]  And are we doing that?
[00:41:39]  Are we missing it?
[00:41:40]  What do we need to do?
[00:41:41]  Oh, it's a great opportunity.
[00:41:42]  What a great question.
[00:41:43]  The answer is yes.
[00:41:46]  So I think it's Psalm 97, 10.
[00:41:50]  It's my day job verse is what I call it.
[00:41:53]  People say, Charlie, what Bible verse justifies what you do all day long?
[00:41:57]  It says very simple.
[00:41:58]  If you love God, you must hate evil.
[00:42:01]  So that's my mission statement.
[00:42:04]  If you love God, you must hate evil.
[00:42:06]  It's that simple.
[00:42:07]  It's impossible to tolerate evil if you love God.
[00:42:10]  And so, yeah, look, the church, this church is doing an amazing job, and so are you.
[00:42:16]  But far too many pastors and churches right now, like, hey, we don't do that around here, okay?
[00:42:21]  Like, evil, we're neutral on evil around here, okay?
[00:42:26]  We're a seeker church.
[00:42:27]  Like, we don't want to turn people away.
[00:42:29]  I mean, what if we tell people evil's wrong and they leave?
[00:42:35]  This is the argument most churches will make, by the way.
[00:42:37]  How true.
[00:42:38]  Right?
[00:42:38]  How true.
[00:42:39]  Where in reality, actually, the churches that are taking stances right now against what's happening, they're growing.
[00:42:45]  Their tides are going up.
[00:42:46]  They're seeing more and more people show up in record numbers.
[00:42:49]  And so this is a great opportunity for the church.
[00:42:52]  So the question we must ask as Christians, which is what is liberty?
[00:42:55]  And liberty is not man's idea.
[00:42:58]  It is God's idea.
[00:43:00]  It is God's heart for his people to set the captives free.
[00:43:03]  It's that simple.
[00:43:05]  And so when we start to see tyranny march across the land, what are we to do?
[00:43:10]  Well, first, we must understand the biblical commandment to be good stewards.
[00:43:15]  We are commanded to be good stewards.
[00:43:16]  So we are stewards of America.
[00:43:18]  And therefore, we must understand where it came from, what it is, what it isn't, and what we should do about it.
[00:43:24]  America was founded by pastors and Christians that were willing to take a stand for liberty.
[00:43:30]  That's a beautiful and amazing thing.
[00:43:33]  And only the church will be able to get it back into alignment.
[00:43:36]  And so we must understand at this particular moment as we see our country, I mean, absent a musk and a Trump that comes in, the large swath of the activity has to stem out of the church.
[00:43:48]  And it is this kind of moment, this period of time, where I think God is patiently waiting to see what is the church going to do.
[00:43:56]  It is a calling moment.
[00:43:57]  And most churches fail.
[00:43:58]  So there's three types of churches in America.
[00:44:00]  It's the three C's, okay?
[00:44:01]  There's the courageous.
[00:44:02]  You're sitting in a courageous church right now, okay?
[00:44:07]  There is the cowardly, and then there's the complicit, okay?
[00:44:11]  The cowardly church is the one that kind of says, hey, we don't do that around here, okay?
[00:44:16]  We just do the Bible.
[00:44:17]  Okay, great.
[00:44:18]  Terrific.
[00:44:19]  You just do the Bible.
[00:44:19]  How about Jeremiah 29, 7?
[00:44:21]  You ever teach on that?
[00:44:22]  That you must demand the peace and the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
[00:44:28]  That's the Lord commanding you.
[00:44:29]  You ever preach on that?
[00:44:30]  No, no, no.
[00:44:31]  I'm sorry.
[00:44:31]  When I said the Bible, I meant Matthew.
[00:44:33]  Oh, got it.
[00:44:36]  You mean like, more specifically, Matthew 5.
[00:44:38]  Oh, so you're a Sermon on the Mount church.
[00:44:39]  Got it.
[00:44:40]  Okay.
[00:44:41]  Which is fine.
[00:44:42]  Like, I love the Sermon on the Mount.
[00:44:43]  The Bible, all of it is the breathed word of God, right?
[00:44:46]  It is the inerrant scripture.
[00:44:49]  And so to go deeper than that, though, which I think is really important, is the kind of cowardly church will kind of back away from the fights, even though their congregation is asking them questions, right?
[00:45:01]  They're like, hey, how do you feel about this?
[00:45:03]  Oh, we don't talk about that here.
[00:45:05]  When moms are coming in tears to pastors saying that my 11-year-old is transitioning to be a girl, the pastor says, oh, we don't do that around here.
[00:45:13]  That is a disservice to your flock to not inform them and empower them with the Bible has to say.
[00:45:19]  But then there's the complicit church.
[00:45:21]  And we all know the complicit church.
[00:45:22]  I'm sure Fresno has a couple.
[00:45:23]  They're the ones that fly the LGBT flag or the BLM flag out front.
[00:45:28]  They're the ones that are not doing nothing.
[00:45:30]  I prefer them to do nothing.
[00:45:31]  But instead they're actively involved in anti-biblical activism, right?
[00:45:35]  They're actively involved in spreading things that are not true.
[00:45:38]  Let me give you some one-liners of churches that will say they'll say, Jesus was a socialist.
[00:45:41]  They'll say that, right?
[00:45:42]  Or they'll say, my new favorite, and I got this one the other day, and I wish it was filmed.
[00:45:48]  It was a private conversation.
[00:45:49]  They said, Jesus was transgender.
[00:45:51]  It's a new one.
[00:45:52]  Have you heard this one?
[00:45:53]  No, it's a new one.
[00:45:55]  And I said, what?
[00:45:58]  This is their argument.
[00:45:58]  They said, so Jesus was part man and part God.
[00:46:03]  Part of both, therefore was trans of a being.
[00:46:09]  And I said, that's really a reach.
[00:46:12]  You realize that, right?
[00:46:15]  That's not true.
[00:46:17]  And they said, well, prove it.
[00:46:19]  I said, I have to prove that Jesus is not a transgender.
[00:46:21]  I said, no, no, the burden of proof is on you.
[00:46:23]  Okay.
[00:46:23]  You're going to do a lot better than just saying that Jesus was 100% God, 100% man, and all of a sudden say that has that's gender dysphoria.
[00:46:30]  Like, not exactly.
[00:46:32]  So, that's a new one.
[00:46:33]  And so, yeah, look, those are the three types of churches.
[00:46:37]  The vast majority are cowardly.
[00:46:39]  A growing part are complicit.
[00:46:41]  But the most fervent and blessed churches in America are the courageous.
[00:46:47]  And those are the ones that I think God is going to continue to bless.
[00:46:50]  So, let's do some questions.
[00:46:51]  Is that okay?
[00:46:52]  So, we're going to do some questions, guys.
[00:46:56]  You guys can line up in the aisle to ask the question.
[00:47:00]  We have time for 15, 20 minutes of them.
[00:47:03]  And so, a line here, is that right?
[00:47:06]  Okay, and over there.
[00:47:07]  Hey, Brandon, how are you doing?
[00:47:09]  And so, yeah, just start lining up if you have a question.
[00:47:12]  I want to prioritize students.
[00:47:14]  I'm going to just kind of be the jerk.
[00:47:16]  Please make it a question, not a statement.
[00:47:18]  So, I will cut you off, okay?
[00:47:20]  Sorry in advance.
[00:47:22]  Been a long week today.
[00:47:23]  I was up at 3 a.m. doing a Fox News interview, so I'm just not going to hear about your candidacy for dog catcher.
[00:47:28]  I'm sorry.
[00:47:30]  So, just line up here.
[00:47:31]  Ask, yeah, please, thank you.
[00:47:33]  And we'll try to get to as many as possible.
[00:47:36]  And great, let's start here.
[00:47:39]  Is that okay?
[00:47:41]  Hello.

=== Why Transhumanism Is Wrong (02:38) ===

[00:47:42]  So, you seem to support Elon Musk.
[00:47:47]  Can we talk about his transhumanism?
[00:47:50]  Yeah.
[00:47:51]  No, and I definitely think I mentioned that in my remarks briefly.
[00:47:56]  Yeah, so this is something where if I ever get the chance to meet Elon or talk to him, I'll challenge him a lot on this.
[00:48:04]  And I'd love to see him discontinue and collapse that entire division of his company.
[00:48:11]  So, I'll explain what it is to everybody first.
[00:48:14]  So, he has a company called Neuralink.
[00:48:17]  The company strives to first try to solve dehabilitating disorders, nerve disorders stemming in the brain of people that are paralyzed and they think they could fix it.
[00:48:29]  But it's a lot deeper and I think a lot more insidious than that, right?
[00:48:33]  He aims to be able to upload human consciousness to a computer.
[00:48:39]  Not a fan at all.
[00:48:40]  I'm not a fan of tampering with the human brain.
[00:48:43]  I'm not a fan with trying to merge science with the perfectly designed brain that the Lord has given us.
[00:48:49]  And what you mentioned with transhumanism is exactly right, which is the eventual merging of machines and human beings.
[00:48:58]  There are some pastors that will say that was prophesied in Revelation.
[00:49:04]  Maybe you would agree or not.
[00:49:06]  I do, but I don't get into that kind of theological dispute.
[00:49:09]  I had a pastor say that's not what it says.
[00:49:11]  Whatever, okay?
[00:49:12]  You could read the Bible and kind of come to your own conclusion.
[00:49:15]  Here's what I will say: it's wrong.
[00:49:17]  Okay, it is wrong to try to merge human beings with machines.
[00:49:22]  And so, I will continue to be a vocal and outspoken critic of Musk's Neuralink project.
[00:49:29]  I find very little to any redeeming value outside of maybe being able to fix people's nerves disorders that are paralyzed in the waist down, but you and I both know it's not going to stop there at all.
[00:49:39]  It's going to get to the place where he has said openly he wants to be able to drill a hole in the side of the brain and be able to put a machine in there and upload all of consciousness, and that you will be able to dictate machines to your will based on what you think.
[00:49:55]  Not buying it.
[00:49:56]  Sorry, you guys can't get a vaccine right.
[00:49:59]  Excuse me when I'm kind of like a little bit skeptical on the whole like drilling a hole in the side of my head thing.
[00:50:05]  Not going to happen.
[00:50:06]  So, but my praise of Musk remains because not of that project, but because what he's done to preserve speech, which I believe is a fundamental right in the West that is so mercilessly under attack.

=== Supporting Loyal Farmers and Ranchers (08:16) ===

[00:50:20]  And so, I appreciate the question.
[00:50:21]  I think we have a lot of agreement on the transhumanism stuff, though.
[00:50:24]  Thank you.
[00:50:24]  Okay.
[00:50:26]  I'd like to thank you first off for being here tonight for coming to the armpit of California, some would like to say.
[00:50:32]  I think it's beautiful here.
[00:50:35]  This 400-mile stretch of the Central Valley produces a fourth of the nation's fruits and vegetables, including fourth of the nation's nuts, including 40% of the fruits and vegetables here.
[00:50:45]  As an American, I'm proud to be a part of that.
[00:50:48]  I didn't get home until 2 o'clock this morning from working a 15-hour cattle sale, contributing to the beef in our food supply chain.
[00:50:54]  Right here, where we stand is, in my opinion, the best and worst place to live.
[00:50:58]  Our ag is great, but our politics are trash.
[00:51:01]  We face the possibility to see a disruption of our agriculture production.
[00:51:04]  Inflation and the state's overreach on our water rights have the power to diminish our small farmers and ranchers here in California.
[00:51:10]  With woke culture's attack on the idea that cattle are killing the planet and animal agriculture is the leading cause to climate change, which let me add the EPA put out that agriculture only contributes to 9% of that and three of that is animal agriculture.
[00:51:24]  Knowing the significance of this and the simple fact that agriculture sees no race, color, or sexual orientation, whether you're green, white, gay, purple, or even identify as a cat, because whether it's obvious or not, we all have to eat.
[00:51:38]  We need our farmers and ranchers in order to stay in that human being.
[00:51:40]  You gotta ask the question.
[00:51:41]  I'm sorry.
[00:51:41]  I'm getting there.
[00:51:42]  So, my question for you is: why is it not talked about?
[00:51:45]  Why is this agriculture not talked about more in the mainstream media?
[00:51:48]  And why is it not talked about on your platform?
[00:51:50]  Because you say, let's save America.
[00:51:52]  And I think saving America starts with saving our farmers and ranchers first.
[00:51:55]  Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with that.
[00:51:56]  Yeah.
[00:51:58]  Yeah, I probably should talk about it more.
[00:52:00]  There's probably other 50 other issues I should talk about more too.
[00:52:03]  But I agree with everything you said.
[00:52:04]  Look, there's a war on ranchers here in this country.
[00:52:07]  It's deliberate, and farmers in particular.
[00:52:13]  There's several issues here.
[00:52:14]  The supply chain thing is intentional and deliberate.
[00:52:16]  I believe in more ways than one.
[00:52:18]  I want anybody to tell me why on earth so many food processing plants are blowing up all of a sudden in the last couple of months, like weird, bizarre plane crashes, arson, like really weird stuff, which directly impacts the ability to distribute and process food.
[00:52:33]  But look, there is a campaign to try to make America less self-sufficient.
[00:52:38]  We are the envy of the world that we do not have to import a lot of our food.
[00:52:43]  In fact, we're able to export a lot of it.
[00:52:45]  They want to change that.
[00:52:46]  So it is a part of my platform for sure.
[00:52:48]  I mean, we do entire episodes of it.
[00:52:50]  We just did one the other day.
[00:52:52]  But the water rights thing, I mean, this is one of the reasons why I think it's unrealistic, but it's also important that this part of California should, I mean, separate from the rest of California or whatever.
[00:53:01]  The fact that your water continues to subsidize the elevated lifestyle of those people that don't share your values, your politics.
[00:53:09]  I don't think it's realistic to break California in five parts.
[00:53:12]  I just think it's an awesome idea.
[00:53:13]  I have for a while said California is way too big.
[00:53:15]  The values do not align with most people.
[00:53:17]  Now, I've said it for a long time.
[00:53:19]  It's an unsustainably large project.
[00:53:21]  It is.
[00:53:22]  You should not be ruled by the Bay Area and LA.
[00:53:25]  It's just not, it's not, that's what's happening, right?
[00:53:27]  It's two big metropolitan areas that rule the rest of the state.
[00:53:30]  So I appreciate the question.
[00:53:32]  We'll just go with three parts of California instead of five.
[00:53:35]  Yeah, I've seen all sorts of different proposals.
[00:53:37]  Three sounds better than what it is right now.
[00:53:39]  So, all right.
[00:53:41]  Hi, Charlie.
[00:53:43]  My name is Veronica.
[00:53:44]  I'm from the, I came from Narrowsville, so this is a really closer area than I would have traveled to.
[00:53:49]  And I'm really glad that you're here.
[00:53:51]  And thank you for your time.
[00:53:53]  I do want to say one, it's a two-part, and I'll make this quick.
[00:53:57]  I know that there's a most recent abortion bill being pushed from the Capitol.
[00:54:02]  And last Tuesday, there were 3,000 people that came.
[00:54:06]  The Assembly Health Committee only went through not even half of the people that spoke.
[00:54:13]  It was 150 plus people.
[00:54:15]  And yet this week I went to the Capitol for two, three hearings and only two or three people showed up to two of the three hearings.
[00:54:23]  I'm very disappointed.
[00:54:24]  And I know that there's a lot of discouragement and people are burnt out.
[00:54:29]  What is your take on ensuring we can gather as much encouragement for the people that may be burnt out spiritually or just in general?
[00:54:40]  Do you want to start with that?
[00:54:41]  Can you give us status of the bill and where it's at?
[00:54:44]  So it's AB 2223, which is the infanticide bill.
[00:54:48]  If you're not familiar with it, it basically legalizes that not only can a child's life be taken in the womb, but up to 30 days.
[00:54:56]  Some of the legislators are saying that the life can be taken after birth.
[00:55:01]  And so it went through the health committee, passed through that.
[00:55:05]  And now we've still got several other committees to go through on the assembly side.
[00:55:09]  We're trying to get it even in more, and then it will pass over to the Senate.
[00:55:13]  So the fight's not over, but it is a fight.
[00:55:16]  And just to your point, we have to keep the activism going.
[00:55:19]  You know, I can't guarantee a victory on this bill.
[00:55:23]  In fact, we've talked privately.
[00:55:24]  I don't know if you're comfortable sharing it, but it doesn't look good.
[00:55:27]  It looks like the governor wants this bill to pass.
[00:55:29]  But we must fight.
[00:55:30]  We must do everything we possibly can.
[00:55:32]  I know people are burned out, but I mean, babies are worth it, right?
[00:55:36]  If we can't protect them, then what form of activism matters?
[00:55:40]  So God bless you.
[00:55:41]  Thank you.
[00:55:42]  We'll get to a couple more.
[00:55:43]  Hi, how's it going, Charlie?
[00:55:45]  My question was, who would you rather have in the 24 office, DeSantis or Trump?
[00:55:51]  Yeah, I mean, it's a running joke.
[00:55:53]  I just did a whole podcast on this.
[00:55:55]  And so we actually opened up this to my whole audience.
[00:55:59]  So I'm very honest about this, right?
[00:56:01]  So I'm a loyal person.
[00:56:02]  I told Trump while he was president, after it looked like he wasn't getting another term, if you run again, you have my support.
[00:56:08]  He was great to me.
[00:56:12]  I would have none of your trust if I made commitments to people and I went back on them.
[00:56:16]  And I know you wouldn't expect me to do anything else.
[00:56:18]  And so if he runs, I'm going to back him in 2024.
[00:56:21]  And I have no mystery of whether or not he would be a good president again.
[00:56:24]  He was an awesome president.
[00:56:25]  I think he'd be a great president again.
[00:56:27]  But let me say this about DeSantis, though.
[00:56:30]  With that being said, because I'm a loyal person and I take that very seriously, especially in politics where loyalty is not a currency always found, I think Ron DeSantis could be a once-in-a-generation statesman.
[00:56:41]  I really do.
[00:56:41]  I think Ron DeSantis could be a Winston Churchill or an Abraham Lincoln.
[00:56:46]  I think God has something in store for him that is profound.
[00:56:49]  I have not seen leadership ability on a state level like this in my lifetime.
[00:56:53]  I haven't.
[00:56:54]  His ability to pick tough fights, to win them, to build consensus.
[00:56:58]  He does it with wit and with charm and with incredible godly wisdom, whether it be the pro-life legislation he just signed into bill, his anti-riot legislation, his parental rights legislation, the stuff for against vaccine mandates and mask mandates.
[00:57:14]  He was best on the lockdowns in the country, considering he had the most elderly population in the country per capita was Florida, yet he enthusiastically reopened Florida.
[00:57:24]  And Florida had a better death rate, infection virus rate than here in California, where you guys did long, drawn out lockdowns.
[00:57:33]  And so I'll be very honest when it comes to Ron DeSantis.
[00:57:36]  I went on, I started a project a couple months ago.
[00:57:41]  The project was, there must be something wrong.
[00:57:45]  And I just kept looking.
[00:57:47]  And I tried to find something wrong with Ron DeSantis.
[00:57:50]  And then I kept looking.
[00:57:52]  And then I can't find one thing.
[00:57:54]  Like, I just can't.
[00:57:55]  It's been months now.
[00:57:56]  If you know something wrong with Ron DeSantis, tell me.
[00:57:58]  I knew Ron DeSantis when he was a congressman.
[00:58:00]  We used to hang out a lot.
[00:58:02]  And now he's obviously like a superstar.
[00:58:04]  So we see each other so often.
[00:58:06]  And he's the same guy then.
[00:58:07]  He's smart.
[00:58:08]  He's driven.
[00:58:09]  He's tough.
[00:58:09]  He's all those things.
[00:58:11]  And the 12th Amendment forbids two people from the same state to run for president.
[00:58:16]  So someone will have to move out of Florida or get an apartment somewhere.
[00:58:19]  But just think how strong a Trump DeSantis ticket would be.
[00:58:22]  That would be something I think that would blow people's socks away.
[00:58:25]  And so I love them both.
[00:58:27]  I really do.
[00:58:28]  I'm a loyal guy, but I also acknowledge those of you that might be more like, hey, DeSantis or whatever, I got no disagreeing with you.
[00:58:35]  That guy's special.

=== Trump DeSantis Ticket Strength (02:26) ===

[00:58:36]  Thank you.
[00:58:36]  I appreciate that.
[00:58:40]  Hi.
[00:58:40]  I attend a local Christian college here.
[00:58:45]  Well, they claim to be Christian.
[00:58:49]  Recently, my name?
[00:58:50]  Can you say that?
[00:58:51]  Fresno-Pacific.
[00:58:53]  My sister, I'm studying history.
[00:58:55]  And I actually haven't had much of an issue with the professors, more as the students at school.
[00:59:02]  And my question is, at what point do you argue?
[00:59:06]  And at what point do you stop?
[00:59:08]  Got it.
[00:59:09]  So great question.
[00:59:10]  Like with the students or with the professors?
[00:59:12]  I mean, it's both ways.
[00:59:13]  Yeah, it goes both ways.
[00:59:14]  Okay.
[00:59:15]  So you first got to, and this is a good rule for life.
[00:59:17]  You just got to decide very clearly what do you want, right?
[00:59:21]  So if you want a good grade, then don't say anything.
[00:59:25]  Right?
[00:59:26]  I believe grades don't matter nearly as much as speaking the truth.
[00:59:30]  That's my opinion.
[00:59:31]  I think grades are largely irrelevant.
[00:59:33]  And I mean this, take this just nicely and kindly.
[00:59:36]  I think college is a scam and kind of a waste of time.
[00:59:38]  Right.
[00:59:38]  Okay, good.
[00:59:39]  So, and that's not an attack on you.
[00:59:41]  I just think college is largely useless.
[00:59:44]  So you got to figure out what you want, right?
[00:59:46]  So Ben Shapiro and I disagree on this.
[00:59:49]  Ben will say, hey, just tell the professor what he wants to hear.
[00:59:52]  Just lie your way through the coursework, whatever.
[00:59:56]  I think if you lie small, you lie big.
[00:59:58]  I think every fight matters.
[01:00:00]  I think you shouldn't put your name to something that's untrue.
[01:00:02]  Not only is that unbiblical, it's also just a bad rule for life, right?
[01:00:05]  So you just got to know what you want.
[01:00:07]  But also know that if you decide to challenge a professor, challenge a student, your grade will probably suffer.
[01:00:13]  Your friendships will suffer, and it'll be tough.
[01:00:15]  But waiting on the back end of that will be an incredible sense of freedom that I think will just open your eyes in a profound and a magical way.
[01:00:25]  And so you have to know what you want.
[01:00:28]  And for me, it's always just been truth first and whatever the consequences are, like so be it.
[01:00:35]  Now, you don't have to do it in a reckless way or a bombastic way.
[01:00:38]  Do it gracefully and compassionately.
[01:00:40]  You can do it magnanimously, which is one of my favorite words written a lot about by Aristotle.
[01:00:45]  But at the same time, if I personally, this is the way I'm wired, I wouldn't be able to get an A while not challenging a professor for just spreading rubbish.
[01:00:55]  I will have felt as if I just saw the truth go through a drive-by shooting and I let that happen.

=== Immigration Can Be Positive (05:48) ===

[01:01:02]  And that's not the way I'm wired.
[01:01:04]  So God bless you.
[01:01:05]  Thank you.
[01:01:05]  All right, we'll take a couple.
[01:01:07]  I think we'll do one here and then one there.
[01:01:09]  Okay, so two more.
[01:01:10]  Thank you, Charlie.
[01:01:11]  I'm not a student.
[01:01:12]  I'm a father.
[01:01:13]  My wife and I have five kids.
[01:01:15]  They're all teenagers.
[01:01:18]  I will tell you, and I appreciate you saying earlier that you were an optimist.
[01:01:22]  I'm very discouraged right now with explaining to my kids about what's going on in the world.
[01:01:27]  So I want your opinion on something.
[01:01:29]  When I read Revelation, and it's talking about the end times, the new world order that we keep hearing about in the news, the mark of the beast with the microchip, I can't help but think that Christ is coming back.
[01:01:42]  I know we can't, you know, we don't know.
[01:01:44]  The day and the hour is unknown.
[01:01:45]  Exactly.
[01:01:46]  Only God knows that.
[01:01:47]  So I want your opinion on that matter.
[01:01:50]  I believe the Bible is true.
[01:01:51]  And so I believe everything the Bible says is going to happen is going to happen.
[01:01:55]  So let me give you my opinion on eschatology, which is the study of the end times, right?
[01:01:59]  Brandon's going to, he knows exactly where I'm going with this.
[01:02:02]  So there's the pre-trib and the post-trib, and the debate rages on and will rage on for a long time.
[01:02:08]  And whenever I get the pre-trib and the post-trib guys in the room together, they both have really good arguments.
[01:02:14]  They both do.
[01:02:15]  And so I'm more of a pre-trib guy, just kind of by default, right?
[01:02:18]  However, I tend to just kind of say in my public thing, I'm a pan-trip.
[01:02:23]  It's all going to pan out in the end, right?
[01:02:27]  Here's my concern with your question, and then I'll answer it the best I can, which the answer will probably not surprise you.
[01:02:33]  The overemphasis on eschatology can have an unintended consequence of inaction.
[01:02:40]  If you think Jesus is coming next Thursday, then why do you have to be involved, right?
[01:02:46]  We're going to get zapped up.
[01:02:47]  What does it matter?
[01:02:49]  So we cannot allow our eschatology to turn into an excuse for inaction.
[01:02:53]  I know that's not why you're asking it, but a lot of people will say that, like, hey, Charlie, this thing's, it's not falling apart, it's falling together.
[01:03:00]  It's coming together.
[01:03:01]  And I just kind of push back on that a little bit.
[01:03:04]  And so my answer is very simple: I don't know.
[01:03:06]  You're going to have to ask someone with a lot more theological kind of understanding than I do.
[01:03:11]  It's hard to disagree that things certainly seem to be falling in place.
[01:03:14]  However, it could be another 10 years, 100 years, 500 years, 750 years, 1,000 years.
[01:03:18]  The day and the hour is unknown.
[01:03:19]  We can look to the signs of the times, but we have to occupy till he comes.
[01:03:23]  So my mission is to occupy until he comes and let the rest figure itself out.
[01:03:28]  Thank you.
[01:03:29]  We'll go here and then we'll actually, that'll be the last one, okay?
[01:03:33]  Hello, Charlie.
[01:03:34]  I'm up here to talk about the immigration and people coming into our country.
[01:03:39]  We're here as Christians to show God's love.
[01:03:43]  For people that are taking 10 years to do it the right way to come into our country, it gets frustrating for them, for the people that are coming in illegally.
[01:03:55]  Where from God's point as showing God's love and giving to everyone?
[01:04:01]  Where does it come to like we're doing it the right way?
[01:04:04]  We're coming in.
[01:04:06]  Just your take on it.
[01:04:07]  So the Bible talks extensively about immigration.
[01:04:10]  Every time immigration is mentioned or the kind of flow of people from one place to the other, assimilation is also mentioned alongside of it.
[01:04:17]  I believe that immigration can and has been a positive in our country's history, but also anything that's a positive in life can also be a negative if it's not done correctly.
[01:04:27]  And the fact that I say that out loud and people find that to be disagreeable, I think is patently insane, right?
[01:04:32]  So first and foremost, we must look at our political leaders.
[01:04:35]  Our political leaders have a moral obligation to their fellow countrymen and to the country that they govern.
[01:04:40]  They do not have an obligation constitutionally to another country.
[01:04:44]  They do not.
[01:04:45]  And we must be very clear about that.
[01:04:48]  Now, when we understand what's happening on the southern border, I have a certain view.
[01:04:51]  I do not believe that's immigration.
[01:04:53]  I do not.
[01:04:53]  I believe that's cutting in line and disenfranchising the legal immigrants from Vietnam or from Iran or from any other country to try to come into America because they have a closer proximity, right?
[01:05:05]  I've been on the southern border.
[01:05:07]  I know a lot of you have as well.
[01:05:08]  I've been down to Yuma and I've seen over 100 different passports that were dropped right before they entered into the country.
[01:05:14]  This is an unmitigated disaster.
[01:05:16]  You can go look at it yourself.
[01:05:18]  You can go look at the rape tree of girls as young as 10 years old that are raped as they come across the southern border.
[01:05:23]  How about the opioids flowing into our country?
[01:05:26]  Over 100,000 plus opioid deaths, not including the fentanyl deaths.
[01:05:30]  And so we as Christians must balance the commandment to love our neighbor with also understanding what is the damage of our own policies doing to our own neighbor here when you see the overdose death because we allowed the fentanyl to pour into America, when you see the increase in crime or the deterioration of wages.
[01:05:49]  So it's very simple.
[01:05:51]  I believe that we must have a complete and total clawback of immigration in our country right now.
[01:05:56]  We've taken in a ton of people, both illegally and legally.
[01:05:59]  We need some time to assimilate and slow it down.
[01:06:02]  America has always gone through cycles of immigration, right?
[01:06:05]  We go up, we go down.
[01:06:06]  The 1950s went down and kind of stayed there for a little bit because why?
[01:06:10]  We wanted to make sure that every single World War II veteran was able to enter into a robust and booming economy because we had a moral obligation for the men that stormed Normandy Beach and fought at Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal that they would be able to have a booming wage economy and not have to compete against others for that.
[01:06:26]  And then we increased immigration in the years that followed as our economy in the country necessitated it.
[01:06:31]  At times, I believe too much.
[01:06:33]  At other times, I think it was appropriate.
[01:06:34]  I mean, there's an amazing Armenian population here in Fresno that have been incredible benefit, you know, to the people here in the valley, right?
[01:06:41]  So immigration can be a positive.
[01:06:43]  Right now, it's more of a negative than it is a positive.
[01:06:46]  And we must admit what's in front of you.
[01:06:48]  And I believe that's the biblical thing to do.

=== Encouraging Local Office Candidates (06:26) ===

[01:06:50]  So, God bless you.
[01:06:51]  Thank you.
[01:06:52]  Final question.
[01:06:53]  Yes, Charlie, thank you for being here and coming to Fresno.
[01:06:57]  Even though I guess it was called an armpit, it's a beautiful, refreshing one, right?
[01:07:03]  My name is Nicholas Wildstar.
[01:07:04]  I'm actually running against one of those leftist city council members you were talking about for the first time.
[01:07:10]  God bless you, Mr. Good.
[01:07:11]  Yeah, I'm doing my best.
[01:07:13]  And that's actually my question for you.
[01:07:15]  We know when it comes to politics, money runs politics.
[01:07:18]  I mean, even when it comes to getting your name out there, I mean, the guy that I'm running against, he has $150,000.
[01:07:25]  I'm a grassroots guy, so it's very difficult for me to get my name out there.
[01:07:30]  So when it comes to the public getting their considerations for who they should vote for, a lot of them are coming to the church, but they are some of those complicit, cowardly churches that you spoke about.
[01:07:43]  So two-part question.
[01:07:46]  One, what would you recommend to the people to actually get the best recommendations for who would represent them the best when it comes to local politics?
[01:07:56]  And two, for me as a candidate, what can I do to actually overcome that hurdle?
[01:08:01]  I think this church is led so well that if you have any questions about local political matters, I would always just say ask your pastor, right?
[01:08:08]  And if your pastor doesn't answer, then you might have to find a new pastor, right?
[01:08:12]  If they're not going to tell you to vote for.
[01:08:14]  But look, I first just want to encourage you: we need more people to run for local office.
[01:08:17]  We really do.
[01:08:18]  We need people to push back against what's happening.
[01:08:21]  And look, you're right, money drives politics, but not always on a local level.
[01:08:25]  That is the one exception.
[01:08:27]  I've seen time and time again the harder-working candidate on a local level can beat a lot of money.
[01:08:32]  And so, look, you got to work the business community, you got to work the local area, right?
[01:08:37]  And then finally, to kind of your other question, which is what is it going to take, you know, to get more people engaged and involved in all of this, especially as a candidate who's just trying to build name ID and all that?
[01:08:48]  Look, it requires a commitment to have a message that resonates, not care about what the local press is actually going to say about you or push back against you.
[01:08:57]  And then work events like this, right?
[01:08:59]  It's going to be a lot of early breakfasts and late nights.
[01:09:02]  But I just want to make a comment on the complicit and the cowardly church.
[01:09:06]  They have to, they have, they are going to have to be held accountable at some point for being quiet for the deterioration of this city or the region, right?
[01:09:16]  We're stewards, and the church needs to be the moral clarion call for what needs to happen in a local area, state, or region.
[01:09:24]  And so, just God bless you, man, for running for office.
[01:09:27]  I really deeply appreciate that.
[01:09:29]  Can I say one thing?
[01:09:30]  I'm just going to say one thing in person.
[01:09:32]  So, this is an awesome event.
[01:09:34]  It really was.
[01:09:35]  There's one shameless thing I'm going to ask you guys to do, though.
[01:09:38]  Is that okay?
[01:09:39]  One way you could help me and help us.
[01:09:41]  So, I traveled 330 days last year on the road.
[01:09:45]  We still do three podcasts a day, three hours of radio every single day.
[01:09:50]  And so, for those of you that have been to our events before, you know exactly what I'm going to ask you to do.
[01:09:54]  So, all of you guys have smartphones, right?
[01:09:56]  This is free of charge and a way that you can help us and bless us, which is, so one of the ways that we're able to kind of stay immune from censorship and cancellation is when audiences like you subscribe to our podcast.
[01:10:09]  I know it's silly.
[01:10:10]  I know it's self-promotional.
[01:10:11]  It absolutely is.
[01:10:13]  But it's a way that you guys can stay in touch and help us continue to grow.
[01:10:17]  So that's a QR code.
[01:10:18]  If you don't know what that is, there's an eight-year-old around somewhere that can guide you through that.
[01:10:23]  That will bring you to a podcast page.
[01:10:25]  You guys can hit that plus sign in the upper right-hand corner.
[01:10:29]  If you don't know about any of that, you just open your podcast app and you go to the Charlie Kirk show and you hit plus.
[01:10:35]  It really does help us out.
[01:10:36]  It allows us to flourish and to grow and to strengthen in a very considerable and powerful way.
[01:10:42]  So thank you guys for that.
[01:10:43]  So in closing, I want to say this.
[01:10:44]  What an awesome church this is, right?
[01:10:46]  I mean, this is not your church home.
[01:10:49]  This should become your church home, everybody.
[01:10:51]  And what we are doing at Turning Point USA is we are trying to empower the everyday person, the citizen, to be able to take back their country against the regime.
[01:11:03]  I want all of you to make a decision tonight that you're going to be part of this historical movement that's not going to happen overnight.
[01:11:10]  It's not going to happen in a moment, but the good things take a long period of time, as we talked about earlier.
[01:11:15]  Now, we're going to build new things.
[01:11:17]  We're going to start new businesses.
[01:11:19]  We're going to start new schools.
[01:11:20]  We're going to start new families.
[01:11:21]  We're going to flourish.
[01:11:22]  We're going to grow.
[01:11:23]  We're going to prosper together.
[01:11:24]  We are going to be in the movement of optimism while they're depressing and they're pessimistic.
[01:11:28]  I truly believe that there's this remnant in this country that's going to continue to light these flames of liberty.
[01:11:33]  One of my favorite quotes by a founding father, Samuel Adams, you all know him from other fame, but Samuel Adams, he said, all it takes for a country to go back to freedom is not a majority, but an irresistible, not an irresistible, I'm sorry, a restless minority to continue to light flames of fire in every single corner they go.
[01:12:00]  That's Samuel Adams, who did that himself.
[01:12:03]  And so, yes, you might feel outnumbered.
[01:12:04]  You might feel as if that the forces against you are overwhelming, but that's where you guys come in.
[01:12:09]  And tonight, I know there's someone that needed to hear that that can start an organization.
[01:12:13]  I started this when I was 18 years old, everybody.
[01:12:14]  No money, no connections, no idea what I was doing.
[01:12:16]  And it's the favor of the Lord and the Holy Spirit that has just spoke through us now for a decade.
[01:12:21]  Somebody in this audience could start something as exciting or more exciting as Turning Point USA, a business, a movement, whatever it might be.
[01:12:28]  And we're on high school and college campuses all across the country and now churches.
[01:12:32]  And we're building that coalition where maybe in one year or five years or 10 years or 20 years, all of a sudden, you're going to look around and be like, wow, this country is freer than it was when we were in that kind of church together.
[01:12:45]  And it's going to be because of the work that you put in today where that output's going to happen tomorrow.
[01:12:51]  And it's going to be worth it for our grandkids and for future generations.
[01:12:54]  Remember, liberty, it's not man's idea.
[01:12:56]  It's God's idea.
[01:12:57]  It's now up to us to get to work.
[01:12:59]  God bless you guys.
[01:13:00]  Thank you so much.
[01:13:05]  Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
[01:13:06]  Email me your thoughts is always freedom at charliekirk.com.
[01:13:08]  Thank you so much for listening.
[01:13:09]  God bless.
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