The Charlie Kirk Show - Unpacking "The Supreme Leak" and the End of Roe
Aired: 2022-05-03
Duration: 33:19


=== Supreme Court Leak Scandal (02:06) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, we dive into the groundbreaking and unprecedented news that the United States Supreme Court leaked a decision ahead of time.
[00:00:08]  What is behind all of this?
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[00:01:35]  I had a whole show kind of laid out for you guys today.
[00:01:39]  I was with JD Vance yesterday in Ohio.
[00:01:42]  For all of you in Ohio, make sure you go out and vote and vote for JD Vance.
[00:01:45]  And then last night, as I was flying to Florida, I saw my phone blowing up, and it was one of the most remarkable stories that I think we've seen in recent memory.
[00:01:55]  And we're going to unpack it from every possible angle.
[00:01:58]  You've probably heard it by now, but in case you haven't or in case you're a little confused, let's walk you through it.
[00:02:04]  Let's kind of do a little refresher.

=== Ohio Vote and State Rights (13:00) ===

[00:02:06]  So last night, Politico reported that the Supreme Court was poised to decide that Roe versus Wade was going to be overturned.
[00:02:18]  Now, this is an unprecedented development because Politico received a leak.
[00:02:22]  Now, we're used to leaks in Washington, D.C. Leaks happen all the time, and leakers are rarely ever held accountable unless the leakers, of course, are leaking on Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.
[00:02:32]  And so, what appears to be a Supreme Court Justice clerk, we'll get into that later in this program of who we think it is.
[00:02:39]  They leaked a draft of the decision composed and written by Samuel Alito, by Justice Alito.
[00:02:46]  Now, the significance of this is that the decision is not done yet.
[00:02:51]  Is that the justices meet right after they hear oral arguments?
[00:02:54]  They start to draft opinions, and the final decision, the final vote, will be done based on how the opinion is written.
[00:03:00]  And so, based on the draft, it looks like Amy Coney Barrett, Clarence Thomas, Justice Gorsuch, Justice Alito, and Justice Kavanaugh, five of them, are going to vote against the four would be Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan, and Roberts, saying that Roe versus Wade will be overturned.
[00:03:22]  Now, mind you, we'll get into the technical aspect of this.
[00:03:25]  It does not mean that abortion will be outlawed as much as I'd like to see that happen.
[00:03:29]  That just simply means that states will be able to determine their own abortion laws.
[00:03:35]  That matters basically in the sense that states will be able to say that if they want to outlaw abortion, then so be it.
[00:03:41]  It's a state's rights argument.
[00:03:43]  It's less about abortion and it's more about the Constitution.
[00:03:46]  That's a very important thing where the left believe that abortion, for whatever reason, is some sort of constitutional right.
[00:03:53]  It isn't.
[00:03:54]  Abortion is not laid out in the United States Constitution.
[00:03:58]  When Roe versus Wade was decided back 30 or 40 or 50 years ago, it was done using a very creative and new, and dare I say, very shaky constitutional legal argument that basically used the 14th Amendment, amongst many other amendments, to try to justify the allowance of the termination of the unborn.
[00:04:23]  And so the uproar has been extraordinary in just the last 12 hours, but there's so many different parts to unpack with this.
[00:04:29]  Let's first talk about the leak, okay?
[00:04:32]  So when it comes to the leak, we've never seen anything like this.
[00:04:35]  The third branch of government, Article 3 of the United States Constitution, is supposed to remain above politics.
[00:04:42]  When we receive a Supreme Court ruling that we don't like, we as conservatives just like, wow, we don't like that.
[00:04:47]  Okay, time to move on.
[00:04:49]  And even liberals for a long time had that sort of approach and had that perspective when it came to the Supreme Court.
[00:04:55]  Liberals, for example, when they saw the Heller decision, which was a Second Amendment case, they're like, okay, whatever.
[00:05:02]  We don't like it.
[00:05:03]  But we have some respect.
[00:05:04]  We have some reverence for the U.S. Supreme Court.
[00:05:06]  When the U.S. Supreme Court upheld Obamacare, we respected that.
[00:05:09]  When the U.S. Supreme Court made gay marriage a law of the land, I certainly disagreed with that.
[00:05:13]  It overturned state precedent and state autonomy and state sovereignty.
[00:05:17]  However, we said, okay, that is the United States Supreme Court.
[00:05:21]  It is the final decision.
[00:05:22]  Now, we've been saying for quite some time that we've been flirting on the edges, that we've been right on the cusp, we've been right on the precipice of having the U.S. Supreme Court become basically an op-ed organization while wearing black coats.
[00:05:39]  Basically, the court does not have the ability to enforce its rules.
[00:05:43]  The court is only as strong as people believe it to be strong.
[00:05:47]  The court is no stronger than your trust, your commitment to seeing that the court's decisions are actually enacted and actually upheld.
[00:06:01]  The court does not have police power.
[00:06:03]  The court does not have a military.
[00:06:05]  The court does not have the ability to actually enforce these decisions.
[00:06:08]  You know, the very famous quote that Andrew Jackson said, I think it was back in the 1830s or 1840s, he said, you know, let Supreme Court Justice Marshall now enforce it.
[00:06:20]  Basically, the Supreme Court does not have the ability to enforce their decisions.
[00:06:24]  They are completely and totally reliant on the people actually trusting the third branch of government.
[00:06:31]  So Congress has power.
[00:06:34]  The executive branch has power.
[00:06:35]  The third branch has always just kind of been there based on the confidence we have in its ability to exist.
[00:06:44]  And so when now you have this leak from what looks to be a Supreme Court justice clerk, never happened before, in an attempt to, of course, to try and quote unquote crowdsource the entire decision to try to bring it out to the American people and to try to basically create mobs and riots and try to change what the decision actually was going to be.
[00:07:08]  This is now creating a sense of distrust in the third branch of government, the Supreme Court that we've never had before.
[00:07:20]  This is now basically delegitimizing what all of us have grown to love as the supreme interpreter and the law of the land.
[00:07:29]  Now, let's play this out.
[00:07:31]  What's the long-term significance of this?
[00:07:33]  The long-term significance is the destruction and the death of the rule of law as we know it, of the slow and deliberate and prudent interpretation of laws.
[00:07:44]  Now, what we are seeing, regardless of your decision on Roe versus Wade or your opinion of Roe versus Wade, I certainly have strong opinions on life and abortion.
[00:07:52]  We've made those opinions well known here on this program, is that you do not want, and I do not want to live in a country where all of a sudden some random lawkirk can leak a decision before it's actually done, a draft of a decision, to try to mobilize people in the streets to try to prevent that decision from actually happening.
[00:08:13]  Now, we've seen this happen in more ways than one.
[00:08:15]  We see the left go to these extraordinary measures.
[00:08:18]  We see the left, and whether it be in leaking of the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court decision, whether it be spying on Donald Trump, when they start to see a pattern or they start to see a trajectory that does not fit their political purposes, there is no limit to how far they will go.
[00:08:38]  Now, mind you, I'm also going to talk about this kind of contradiction and this irony.
[00:08:43]  For the last two years, we've been talking about vaccine mandates and how your body is not your own and you must submit to the government.
[00:08:50]  And yet now the left is saying, my body, my own, my choice, I can do whatever I want.
[00:08:54]  So there's this inherent contradiction in the entire pro-abortion argument that I just think is so glaring and so obvious.
[00:09:01]  I'll tell you obviously why I think we as pro-lifers are perfectly consistent with allowing for vaccine autonomy and also the protection of the unborn because they're both human beings that deserve the right to be protected and preserved.
[00:09:14]  But this leak, what is now being called the Supreme Leak, is there's so many different dimensions to this that we're going to unpack over the next hour.
[00:09:23]  But the one that just is immediate to me is that the third branch, Article 3 of the United States Constitution, is no more.
[00:09:29]  If now you're able to leak decisions before they happen to try to inspire riots and protests and media chatter, to try to influence Thomas and influence Amy Coney Barrett and influence Kavanaugh and influence Alito and influence Gorsuch, if you can now do that, well, then the Supreme Court is no longer this sacrosanct group of judges.
[00:09:50]  It's now basically an augment of the media chattering class and the activist class.
[00:09:58]  Roe versus Wade looks like it's going to be overturned.
[00:10:01]  Praise God.
[00:10:02]  So the Supreme Court has a pretty serious problem on their hands right now.
[00:10:10]  And so John Roberts has validated that the leak is legitimate, that this indeed happened.
[00:10:16]  John Roberts said, quote, yesterday, and John Roberts, the Supreme Court justice, yesterday a news organization published a copy of a draft opinion in a pending case.
[00:10:26]  Justices circulate draft opinions internally as a routine, an essential part of the court's confidential, deliberate work.
[00:10:33]  Although the document described in yesterday's reports is authentic, it does not represent a decision by the court or the final positions of members or issues in the case.
[00:10:46]  And that's exactly why they leaked it.
[00:10:47]  They knew this.
[00:10:48]  They leaked this because, and according to Politico, justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate, and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote trading.
[00:11:01]  The court's holding will not be final until it's published, likely in the next two months.
[00:11:06]  And so what they're trying to do here is they're leaking it intentionally early.
[00:11:11]  They're trying to create rancor and backlash, and they're trying to create hysteria so that the justices start to get cold feet.
[00:11:20]  So that one of the justices, probably not Clarence Thomas or Alito, probably not Gorsuch, probably not Amy Coney Barrett, this is probably all directed at Brett Kavanaugh.
[00:11:29]  Now, mind you, this could very well backfire in a variety of different ways.
[00:11:32]  This is Brett Kavanaugh, who, of course, almost had his life destroyed by this very same mob, where they came after him banging on the doors of the United States Supreme Court.
[00:11:41]  They already are shutting down Washington, D.C. There's barricades in front of the U.S. Supreme Court building in anticipation of the backlash.
[00:11:49]  Now, the intensity behind this issue is really something, isn't it?
[00:11:56]  Look, I'm very passionately pro-life, obviously.
[00:11:58]  I don't believe in the 1 million plus abortions that happen every single year in our country.
[00:12:03]  I think that's a very simple and moderate perspective.
[00:12:06]  But regardless of your opinions on abortion, I'm sure some of you are pro-choice in our audience, not a lot of you, but okay.
[00:12:13]  That's an opinion out there.
[00:12:14]  This does not outlaw abortion.
[00:12:16]  This simply brings it back to the states.
[00:12:19]  And so, but yet it's such an important part of the Democrat political machine that they have to be able to terminate children in the womb that they found themselves to upend the entire history of the United States Supreme Court leaking this document and trying to create mass protests and media backlash.
[00:12:43]  Look, it's not too far to say.
[00:12:44]  In fact, it's not on shaky footing to say that the United States Supreme Court is now going to be threatened by activists and media members.
[00:12:58]  You're going to see non-stop New York Times articles.
[00:13:01]  Leak represents a chance for court to correct their draft.
[00:13:06]  This is their last-ditch effort to try and preserve abortion in some states like Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky.
[00:13:19]  This is now what they're focusing on.
[00:13:22]  I want to get to some sound here.
[00:13:23]  I want to go to Cut 21, Shannon Bream on how the Supreme Court leaker will be found and might actually out themselves in order to go down in history in opposition to the decision.
[00:13:33]  Obviously, it's against the law to preemptively leak these decisions.
[00:13:36]  We need to find the leaker, arrest the leaker, and prosecute the leaker.
[00:13:40]  But of course, this leaker is going to go down as a martyr by the radical left.
[00:13:45]  Play Cut 21.
[00:13:46]  Yeah, it's a very small universe of people who would ever have the ability to get their hands on these drafts.
[00:13:51]  And you better believe the chief is already very much on the mole hunt.
[00:13:55]  Last night and into the morning, he is going to have the ability to marshal the troops there at the court and say one by one, I need to know what happened.
[00:14:04]  I need to know where this goes.
[00:14:06]  There will be people who will figure this out.
[00:14:08]  I feel confident at some point we're going to have a name.
[00:14:10]  And listen, if it is a person who thought that they would stop this decision or reverse some of these conservative votes by doing this, they may actually out themselves and say, I did this for history.
[00:14:21]  I did this to preserve the right to abortion.
[00:14:24]  There are people on the left who are celebrating this person.
[00:14:27]  Yeah, this is being widely celebrated by the activist press as a heroic act of leaking.
[00:14:32]  Basically what it is, is we don't like how the Supreme Court is structured.
[00:14:37]  And so we're going to leak this to the population to try to use the riots, to try to use the mob, to try to use the swarms of people to try to get our way.
[00:14:46]  Now, thankfully, I think that Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Thomas, I don't think they're going to bend the knee to this.
[00:14:55]  I don't.
[00:14:56]  I don't think that all of a sudden this is going to make them more like, I think it's going to make them more likely to stay with this decision.
[00:15:03]  But this is all they have.

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=== Full Spectrum Magnesium Guide (15:06) ===

[00:17:09]  The third branch of government, Article 3, as articulated in the Federalist Papers, is always supposed to be a non-political branch.
[00:17:15]  It's supposed to be above the kind of petty bickering that happens in the House or the Senate or even the executive branch that could be easily kind of corrupted by political fights.
[00:17:25]  There's a reason why the Supreme Court justices wear black.
[00:17:29]  There's a reason why they all dress the same.
[00:17:31]  They're supposed to be not in the world of kind of all this different sort of red and blue.
[00:17:38]  They all want to kind of be a sober and deliberate branch.
[00:17:42]  That's why they have the aesthetic of wearing the black robes.
[00:17:47]  It's exactly why.
[00:17:49]  Not exactly, there's other reasons as to why.
[00:17:51]  But a sober and non-political branch is fundamental to a free society.
[00:17:59]  A free society cannot continue to thrive or exist if you do not have at least one branch of government that can remain immune to the political fights.
[00:18:11]  Now, mind you, of course, the Supreme Court has some political influences.
[00:18:16]  It needs to be appointed by the presidency and then confirmed by the United States Senate.
[00:18:21]  So you're never going to have no politics involved.
[00:18:24]  But however, until the left started to derail Supreme Court nominees, like they did with Justice Bork, and they tried to do with Justice Clarence Thomas, and they tried to do with Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Supreme Court justice nominations were not political.
[00:18:37]  Even Republicans would go vote for kind of Democrat liberals that were up for the U.S. Supreme Court.
[00:18:43]  Soda Mayor, I think, got like 58 or 68 votes when Barack Obama put her up.
[00:18:49]  And so the U.S. Supreme Court, there was always supposed to be this idealism embedded in the U.S. Supreme Court that it's supposed to, it's supposed to yield to our higher angels, that even though we might disagree about politics, we have a central governing document, the United States Constitution.
[00:19:06]  We have central governing principles.
[00:19:08]  And this Supreme Court will be able to non-politically and in private, that's a very important part, in private, be able to make decisions.
[00:19:18]  So yes, 68 Republicans voted for Sodomayor.
[00:19:20]  Not 68 Republicans.
[00:19:21]  I'm 68 total people voted for Soda Mayor when Barack Obama put her up for the United States Supreme Court position.
[00:19:29]  68 total people voted.
[00:19:31]  And I think that's like eight or nine Republicans that probably voted because there was about 58 Democrats at the time.
[00:19:35]  Look, there's a reason why they don't do videos in the courtroom.
[00:19:38]  They do audio only.
[00:19:39]  There's another reason why they don't do any audio at all whatsoever when the U.S. Supreme Court justices meet privately.
[00:19:45]  So here's how this works, right?
[00:19:46]  So they'll hear the Roe versus Wade case, the Dobbs case.
[00:19:50]  They'll convene privately, all nine of them around a table, and they'll argue.
[00:19:55]  They'll have discussions.
[00:19:57]  Scalia used to talk about how he and Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have heated discussions about natural rights and private property and who's actually the sovereign.
[00:20:07]  But that's supposed to happen privately because without the examination of the media, you can really dive into somebody without the potential cost of embarrassment, right?
[00:20:18]  In that way, you're able to actually find out where the best ideas are.
[00:20:21]  You know this, where if you've had some of your most probably fruitful conversation with some of your friends, where you know that you're in private, where you know that you're not going to be recorded.
[00:20:29]  That's not to say you're saying anything wrong, but you know you can also say, like, this might be a stupid question, or maybe make me think this way about this, is that the whole idea of being in private and not in public is fundamental actually to become wise.
[00:20:43]  You're not able to improve your argument if you're constantly being filmed all the time, right?
[00:20:47]  Now, there is a time and place for filming people.
[00:20:49]  I do it a lot on college campuses when you want to expose, you want to draw out bad ideas, you want to persuade people.
[00:20:55]  The Supreme Court is not in the business of persuasion, though.
[00:20:58]  They might be trying to persuade a law student at Princeton a couple years down the road, but really they're trying to convince themselves.
[00:21:07]  They're trying to persuade one of the nine, right?
[00:21:10]  And so a free society will no longer be free if the branch of government that is supposed to be interpreting the laws is all of a sudden able to leak decisions before they happen, and it goes into kind of whatever activist group is able to mobilize the most people in front of the United States Supreme Court.
[00:21:28]  It's directly playing into the aims and the ambitions of Planned Parenthood and Emily's list.
[00:21:35]  And make no mistake, there is a profit incentive for Planned Parenthood.
[00:21:38]  They are a for, well, they're a nonprofit, but they print money.
[00:21:42]  They're an abortion factory in a lot of places across the country where they receive $500 million of taxpayer funding.
[00:21:50]  And in addition, this decision, closing down Planned Parenthoods across America, would destroy the bottom line of so many abortion companies across America.
[00:22:00]  But all of this is supposed to happen in private.
[00:22:04]  We must understand that some of the most consequential Supreme Court decisions that you probably support all happen in private.
[00:22:14]  And there's a reason for that because you want someone like Scalia, who obviously was phenomenal.
[00:22:20]  You wanted someone like now Kavanaugh or Alito to be able to really be able to present their argument.
[00:22:24]  And maybe it won't be fruitful, but it's supposed to be immune from external forces.
[00:22:31]  And that might be silly, you know, like kind of woefully idealistic, but actually it works pretty well.
[00:22:37]  It's supposed to be that these nine justices should be influenced by their colleagues, by their own writings, and by what the Constitution says.
[00:22:45]  And that's it.
[00:22:46]  This destroys all of it.
[00:22:51]  This destroys our core institution of the United States Supreme Court.
[00:22:54]  If this precedent is allowed to stand, anytime there will be a decision cooked up that either the right or the left doesn't like, they'll leak it and protests go.
[00:23:02]  I want to give you an equivalent type of hypothetical.
[00:23:07]  If the U.S. Supreme Court was going to rule that guns were illegal and they must be confiscated, imagine if Clarence Thomas leaked that to Breitbart.com and the millions of gun owners that would show up in Washington, D.C. Do you think the media would be calling that a heroic leak or would they be calling it an insurrection?
[00:23:29]  And the level of outrage the left is reaching.
[00:23:32]  I haven't seen them this mad since Elon bought Twitter.
[00:23:34]  Well, that was like last week, right?
[00:23:36]  So I haven't seen this mad.
[00:23:37]  It's like they just go from one hysteria to the other.
[00:23:40]  It's like, wear two masks when you shower.
[00:23:43]  My body, my choice, which hilariously is different than the whole forced vaccination argument.
[00:23:48]  We must support Ukraine.
[00:23:50]  Everything's systemically racist.
[00:23:52]  And now, straight in.
[00:23:54]  This is a very important point, though.
[00:23:56]  A civilization cannot survive if you're constantly at war with one another over mass hysteria events.
[00:24:04]  Winston Churchill had a phenomenal quote where he said, he fears the future of liberty if a civilization is always at each other's throats.
[00:24:13]  You think about that.
[00:24:14]  Churchill's super wise guy, the greatest man to live in the 20th century, that you can't be free if you're constantly at each other's throats.
[00:24:22]  And I'm paraphrasing, he said, I fear for the future of liberty if you're constantly at war with one another.
[00:24:30]  And that's basically where we're headed.
[00:24:32]  The country will become less free because of all of this.
[00:24:35]  And again, this does not outlaw abortion.
[00:24:38]  I wish it did, but it does not.
[00:24:40]  We just have to be factual.
[00:24:43]  Protesters rushed to the Supreme Court last night, young adults protesting at the Supreme Court, chanting, my body, my choice, hilariously.
[00:24:53]  Never heard this at all during the forced vaccination arguments.
[00:24:56]  Play Cut 22.
[00:24:59]  My choice!
[00:25:00]  My body!
[00:25:11]  choice!
[00:25:13]  My body, my choice!
[00:25:14]  And if you don't get a vaccine, I'm going to audit you and put you in prison.
[00:25:17]  Really?
[00:25:18]  That's interesting.
[00:25:19]  It's like the inherent walking contradiction of these people.
[00:25:22]  So incredible.
[00:25:24]  Cut 23, Judicial Crisis Network journalist Carrie Severino, she does a phenomenal job.
[00:25:29]  Leaks have never happened before.
[00:25:30]  This has never happened in American history.
[00:25:32]  Of course, they would do it for abortion.
[00:25:34]  It is a sacred practice of the left.
[00:25:37]  Why?
[00:25:37]  I'll let you figure that out or come to your own conclusions.
[00:25:41]  If you do not have the medical ability, I don't want to say medical, that's not even true.
[00:25:45]  If you do not have the, let's say, sinister technology available to be able to terminate children, the left will do anything to preserve it.
[00:25:54]  Play Cut 23.
[00:25:56]  Yeah, you know, it's absolutely jaw-dropping to have a leak like this, even when, and you can only think of a handful of times that even just the outcome of a case might have been leaked shortly before an opinion is released.
[00:26:08]  This is presumably months ahead of time, and a full draft text of the opinion.
[00:26:13]  But this should not surprise you, though.
[00:26:16]  It shouldn't surprise you because who we're dealing with.
[00:26:18]  These are the people that spied on Trump illegally, organized the entire government against him.
[00:26:23]  These are the people that concocted a mail-in balloting scheme.
[00:26:27]  These are the people that implemented a president of the United States.
[00:26:30]  These are the people that lied about the Hunter Biden laptop, calling it Russian disinformation, mobilizing 50 former Intel people to lie about it.
[00:26:41]  When the left starts to not get their way, they go to extra constitutional means.
[00:26:46]  Let me say that again.
[00:26:47]  When the left starts to not get their way on things that really matter, like they'll allow a decision here or there, you know, school choice or whatever.
[00:26:55]  They'll find workarounds.
[00:26:56]  There is no workaround from a state allowing the outlawing of abortion.
[00:27:01]  There isn't.
[00:27:02]  And for them, this is the line.
[00:27:06]  They need to be hysterical over this.
[00:27:08]  They need to be outraged.
[00:27:11]  Required.
[00:27:13]  Their entire political movement is built around this.
[00:27:17]  And now this once non-political branch of government that, yes, is fundamental to our entire way of life has now become highly politicized.
[00:27:30]  Now, will the leaker be investigated, arrested?
[00:27:33]  I hope so.
[00:27:35]  The person will probably get a book deal with the New York Times called My Heroic Stand: Why I Leaked the Decision Ahead of Time.
[00:27:44]  Okay.
[00:27:46]  But what it really should make you worried about on a variety of levels is these kind of unspoken rules that we used to govern ourselves under, these very simple, agreed-upon principles, such as allowing the court to make a decision, separation of powers, consent to the governed, all of it is now permanently being put in jeopardy by the left-wing activists and the media.
[00:28:16]  Now, there's another take on this that I think is rather optimistic.
[00:28:19]  Not only that abortion will now be hopefully outlawed in many states, which is a very positive thing, but I think there's another wrinkle when it comes to this that I think we need to really consider, which is if Roe versus Wade is able to be repealed, then we as conservatives legitimately can do anything we put our mind to.
[00:28:41]  If you would have told me five years ago that we could get Roe versus Wade repealed, I'd say that is silly, idealistic thinking.
[00:28:47]  But it isn't.
[00:28:48]  It's not silly, idealistic thinking.
[00:28:51]  Now it's real.
[00:28:53]  Now it took a lot of time.
[00:28:58]  It took work.
[00:29:00]  But now you look at Roe versus Wade, the sacred cow of the American left that very well might be repealed in just a couple of weeks.
[00:29:12]  If we look at ourselves as dissidents, anything is now possible.
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[00:30:22]  Rachel Maddow is right here in this cut right here.
[00:30:25]  Cut 34.
[00:30:25]  Rachel Maddow says the legitimacy of the court isn't just an academic thing.
[00:30:29]  It's a question of if their rulings are followed.
[00:30:32]  And if they're not, they don't have an army to implement things.
[00:30:34]  She's exactly right.
[00:30:35]  Is she trying to say that we shouldn't follow the court if they overturn Roe versus Wade?
[00:30:40]  Certainly feels like it.
[00:30:41]  And by the way, it wouldn't be unprecedented.
[00:30:42]  The left doesn't enforce immigration law in San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Seattle, or Portland, or New York.
[00:30:47]  They create sanctuary cities.
[00:30:50]  They just don't follow the laws they don't like, yet we continue to follow the rules as conservatives.
[00:30:53]  Wonder why?
[00:30:54]  Why do we keep doing that?
[00:30:55]  Play cut 34.
[00:30:57]  The legitimacy of the court is just an academic thing.
[00:31:00]  It's a question as to whether or not their rulings are followed.
[00:31:03]  And if they're not, they don't have an army.
[00:31:05]  They don't have a police force to implement these things.
[00:31:09]  It does feel like this gets us closer to that edge, too.
[00:31:14]  No, it's the opposite, Rachel, actually.
[00:31:16]  It's only if people decide not to follow the law.
[00:31:20]  You see, getting rid of evil is never easy.
[00:31:24]  Getting rid of evil, I mean, it took an entire war for us to get rid of slavery.
[00:31:28]  Now, some people say, Charlie, how dare you compare slavery with abortion?
[00:31:32]  Well, you could say, how dare I all I want?
[00:31:34]  I mean, the massacring of children is wrong.
[00:31:38]  The imprisonment of people is wrong against their will, or the ownership of people against their will is wrong.
[00:31:44]  Life begins at conception.
[00:31:45]  It's just not a debated fact.
[00:31:48]  In fact, we have some good videos, I think, coming out at Berkeley when I was talking to some folks there.
[00:31:54]  Boy, would that be a good time to post some of those.
[00:31:57]  And so you look at Alito's opinion.
[00:32:00]  There's a lot there.
[00:32:01]  But basically, Alito said, quote, until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion.
[00:32:09]  Zero, none.
[00:32:10]  No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right.

=== Roe v Wade Overturned (01:03) ===

[00:32:15]  It's well said.
[00:32:17]  And some people say, well, this is settled law.
[00:32:19]  You know, Roe versus Wade never was passed by Congress.
[00:32:23]  Roe versus Wade was judicial activism overturning the will of the states.
[00:32:29]  So let me get this straight.
[00:32:31]  California wants to be able to have post-birth abortions, but they don't want to be able to have Mississippi to be able to outlaw abortions.
[00:32:37]  Why do they care so much about what Mississippi and Alabama are doing?
[00:32:39]  Just send it back to the states.
[00:32:40]  That's all this decision was going to do.
[00:32:43]  Alito claims, quote, an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on the pain of criminal punishment from the earliest days of common law in 1973.
[00:32:52]  It looks like the court is going to overturn this.
[00:32:57]  It looks like the court is going to overturn Roe versus Wade.
[00:33:00]  The left is not going to go down easy.
[00:33:02]  Get ready.
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