The Charlie Kirk Show - Exposing the Intentional Plot Behind the Border Invasion with Fmr. I.C.E. Director Tom Homan
Aired: 2022-04-05
Duration: 33:12


=== Washington Post Mea Culpa (12:30) ===

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[00:01:30]  I could just see the thesaurus on the desk of the Washington Post when they wrote this article or this opinion editorial page.
[00:01:39]  They had to probably wordsmith every single one of these words.
[00:01:42]  Like, I don't like that word.
[00:01:43]  Is there a better word for it?
[00:01:45]  And this is an extraordinary piece by the Washington Post.
[00:01:51]  And I'm not, I don't believe what it's saying on face value.
[00:01:54]  I'm going to tell you what it actually means.
[00:01:56]  But it's written by the Washington Post Editorial Board, which is a long list of people.
[00:02:04]  And it's basically admitting, and I'm paraphrasing, we'll get into some of the specifics, admitting that the Washington Post messed up.
[00:02:14]  They're basically admitting that their failure to cover the Hunter Biden story, the laptop story in 2020, was wrong.
[00:02:25]  But they don't say that bluntly.
[00:02:27]  So first they say, quote, there was something grotesquely familiar about last week's revelations about Hunter Biden's business dealings abroad, both in the story's particulars and more in the general saga of self-sleazy self-dealing in which it fits.
[00:02:41]  Pause.
[00:02:42]  So back in 2019, when Biden first announced for president, Schweitzer had the goods about Biden's foreign business dealings.
[00:02:53]  And now we're supposed to believe that the Washington Post is going to go out of their way and write an article saying that, oh, by the way, there's all these new revelations.
[00:03:03]  We've known about this for three years.
[00:03:05]  But then why are you putting this into there?
[00:03:07]  That's interesting.
[00:03:07]  Let's think about that as we continue.
[00:03:09]  The idea that these latest revelations definitively vindicate or villainize any party except Mr. Biden himself, however, is misplaced.
[00:03:19]  I just laugh at this one.
[00:03:20]  The Washington Post reported Wednesday on the multi-million dollar deals the president's son made with a Chinese energy company.
[00:03:27]  Oh, really?
[00:03:28]  You reported on that?
[00:03:30]  Peter Schweitzer has a whole book about this.
[00:03:32]  Breitbart was covering this three years ago.
[00:03:36]  The Senate report done by Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley a year and a half ago detailed all of this.
[00:03:43]  But now you're saying you reported on it?
[00:03:45]  No, no, you didn't report on it.
[00:03:46]  You copy-pasted what was already reported into an article.
[00:03:51]  Why?
[00:03:54]  Let's dwell on that for a second longer.
[00:03:58]  The Justice Department, the Washington Post editorial board writes, meanwhile, continues its inquiry into Hunter Biden's tax affairs and foreign lobbying.
[00:04:12]  For now, what's more compelling than the assorted accusations about the Biden behavior is this question.
[00:04:18]  Why is the confirmation of a story that first surfaced in the fall of 2020 emerging only now?
[00:04:24]  When the New York Post published its blockbuster exclusive on the contents of a laptop said to have been abandoned at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden, mainstream media organizations bulked at running with the same narrative.
[00:04:36]  Social media sites displayed even greater caution.
[00:04:40]  Twitter blocked the story altogether, pointing to a policy against hacked materials and suspended the New York Post's account for sharing it.
[00:04:48]  Facebook downraked the story and its algorithms that governed users newsfeed for the fear that it was based on misinformation.
[00:04:54]  Now, the Washington Post and New York Times have vouched for many of the relevant communications.
[00:04:57]  Don't you love how they try to frame themselves as the validation?
[00:05:00]  No, no, no.
[00:05:01]  What was the Washington Post saying at the time?
[00:05:04]  Quote, Biden relies on pattern of activity to blame Russia for release of laptop that very well could be his son's laptop.
[00:05:14]  They play into the Russian narrative.
[00:05:15]  That's back right after the debate.
[00:05:18]  Until the Washington Post covered it.
[00:05:23]  The Washington Post continues, this series of events have prompted allegations of a cover-up, or at best a double standard in the treatment of conservative and liberal politicians by mainstream media and social media sites.
[00:05:34]  Yet there was a reason in this case for reluctance on part of the publications and the platforms alike.
[00:05:39]  Oh, why?
[00:05:41]  Why was there reluctance, the Washington Post writes?
[00:05:46]  We had reluctance because both had been unwitting tools of a Russian influence campaign in 2016.
[00:05:54]  It's Vladimir Putin's fault.
[00:05:56]  All right?
[00:05:56]  The reason why we didn't cover Hunter Biden in 2020 was not that it was Russian, but it's just Putin.
[00:06:04]  We hate him so much, and so that's why.
[00:06:06]  So that's why we had to crawl before we could walk, and we just had to kill the story.
[00:06:11]  We didn't cover it.
[00:06:12]  We covered it up.
[00:06:15]  And then I just love the way they write this.
[00:06:16]  The Washington Post is so dishonest.
[00:06:19]  They write this.
[00:06:20]  They say that both had been unwitting tools of a Russian influence campaign in 2016.
[00:06:28]  And it was only prudent.
[00:06:29]  That's right.
[00:06:30]  They're arguing it was prudent to cover it up.
[00:06:32]  I mean, come on.
[00:06:33]  It was only prudent to suspect a similar plot lay behind the mysterious appearance of a computer stuffed with juicy documents and conveniently handed over to President Donald Trump's toxic person, right, toxic in their personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani.
[00:06:49]  Indeed, at the time, there was also an ongoing disinformation operation from Moscow involving, among other things, doctored recordings supposedly showing Joe Biden properly pressuring the then president of Ukraine to aid Hunter Biden's business interests, a fraud point prompted by Rudy Giuliani.
[00:07:03]  Miranda Devine has been talking about the laptop for over a year, and yet no one wanted to touch it.
[00:07:09]  But why is this happening now?
[00:07:12]  Washington Post completes this by saying, this context doesn't necessarily exonerate every action of every publication and platform.
[00:07:20]  It makes obvious sense for newspapers to wait to verify the information before turning it into a story.
[00:07:26]  The harder conundrum is what to do with the true information that comes from a hack, and it wasn't a hack.
[00:07:31]  Hunter handed it over.
[00:07:33]  Don't trust cokeheads with laptops.
[00:07:36]  Social media sites face a tougher choice when it comes to whether or not how to dampen the spread of the story or whether they're unsure of its truthfulness or origins.
[00:07:46]  None of these dilemmas have easy answers.
[00:07:48]  This is what the Washington Post says.
[00:07:49]  The lesson learned from 2016 was evidently to err on the side of setting aside questionable material in the heat of a political campaign.
[00:07:56]  The lesson learned from 2020 may well be that there's a danger suppressing accurate and relevant stories.
[00:08:01]  Let me be very clear.
[00:08:02]  Washington Post doesn't learn any lessons.
[00:08:04]  That's not what this is.
[00:08:05]  Doesn't matter how many people sign this.
[00:08:06]  This right here is what's called creating space.
[00:08:11]  The Washington Post had an article here: Hunter Biden's alleged laptop, an explainer, as they suppressed the story.
[00:08:17]  White House was warned.
[00:08:18]  Giuliani was target of Russian intelligence operation to feed misinformation for Trump.
[00:08:22]  This right here, though, the Washington Post writing this article is making space.
[00:08:28]  What do you mean, making space, Charlie?
[00:08:30]  It's making space for the looming displacement of Joe Biden.
[00:08:39]  They need to have a mini mea culpa for now.
[00:08:43]  What will be, as Rush Limbaugh beautifully predicted right before his passing, the fake news media will become the hard news media almost overnight.
[00:08:54]  Now, everyone's talking about the Hunter Biden deal.
[00:08:57]  And there's one story after the other.
[00:08:59]  For example, Washington Post, quote, in the midst of the election, sorry, Republicans, social media companies aren't obligated to spread your lies.
[00:09:06]  They weren't lies, actually.
[00:09:08]  They were true, and the Washington Post was covering for them to just get Biden into office.
[00:09:14]  All about displacing and destroying Donald Trump, no matter how many corners you cut, no matter how many rules you break, no matter how much unethical activity you engage in, you must get rid of him.
[00:09:26]  That's what happened.
[00:09:27]  But this story and the timing of this story is directly correlated with the Democrats' inability to be able to resurrect their poll numbers with the state of the country.
[00:09:38]  They gave Biden his year, and now they are saying, all right, speed up that Hunter Biden investigation.
[00:09:46]  And guess who is visiting the White House today?
[00:09:54]  Obama to return to the White House to celebrate health care reform.
[00:09:59]  In his visit, first visit since he left office, the former president will appear alongside Biden and Harris to promote the success of the Affordable Care Act.
[00:10:08]  Barack Hussein Obama will return to the White House on Tuesday for the first time since he left office to promote the Affordable Care Act in an event alongside President Joe Biden.
[00:10:17]  So am I supposed to believe the Washington Post does a massive, oh, sorry, we screwed it up and it was all true.
[00:10:25]  The indictments are accelerating against Hunter Biden and Obama just happens to show up at the White House?
[00:10:32]  I don't think so.
[00:10:34]  Obama is going to have a meeting with Biden.
[00:10:36]  I guarantee it.
[00:10:37]  And he's going to say, you finish out your term, you don't run for reelection.
[00:10:42]  Same for you, Cammie.
[00:10:43]  You make space for my wife.
[00:10:45]  It's just speculation.
[00:10:47]  Why is all this happening now?
[00:10:50]  I believe that there's some major reshuffling happening behind the scenes.
[00:10:55]  And I don't think they're going to make Biden resign.
[00:10:57]  I think that they can really put him in a position where they can control him and have him not run for re-election, have him do the term.
[00:11:04]  Now, the challenge will be the highly ambitious Kamala Harris.
[00:11:10]  She's going to be the challenge because she's going to want to run, and she's deeply unpopular, and she has no talent.
[00:11:18]  So the way Obama's going to have to thread that, he's coming to the White House to have an all-hands-on-deck meeting to try to reorganize some things.
[00:11:28]  Remember when the media used to cover the Biden story, Hunter Biden story, this way?
[00:11:33]  Let's play CUT 27.
[00:11:35]  The FBI is now investigating whether those alleged Hunter Biden emails are actually connected to a larger foreign intelligence operation.
[00:11:42]  They may be related to a foreign intelligence operation.
[00:11:45]  Foreign intelligence operation.
[00:11:48]  Foreign intelligence.
[00:11:49]  Foreign intelligence.
[00:11:50]  Foreign intelligence operations.
[00:11:51]  For all we know, these emails are made up.
[00:11:54]  Information found on the laptop may be part of a Russian disinformation campaign.
[00:12:00]  So we know about Operation Mockingbird, which was never completely disassembled in the 1960s and 70s, which was a CIA project to take over the media.
[00:12:08]  Where if you ever deal with mockingbirds, they're all saying the same thing over and over again.
[00:12:12]  And so back and forth and back and forth.
[00:12:14]  They're repeating, Hence, the name Mockingbird.
[00:12:20]  And so Operation Mockingbird was around that whole idea.
[00:12:22]  I guarantee you that there's a memo that got sent out that said Russian disinformation campaign, foreign intervention campaign, all that was a lie.

=== National Security Crisis Unveiled (14:56) ===

[00:12:30]  But now the media has a different posture because the memo has been sent out.
[00:12:34]  There's a wink and a nod saying, hey, Republicans are going to be in power for a long time if we don't get rid of this Biden guy.
[00:12:41]  How do we get rid of him?
[00:12:42]  Through his son.
[00:12:44]  And they're asking very pointed questions.
[00:12:46]  Play cut nine.
[00:12:48]  The Washington Post also reported this week on deals that Hunter Biden had with a Chinese energy company, paid $4.8 million to entities controlled by Hunter and the president's brother.
[00:12:58]  Is the president confident his family didn't cross any ethical lines?
[00:13:03]  George, the president is confident that his family did the right thing.
[00:13:07]  Yeah, confident the family did the right thing.
[00:13:08]  Let me tell you, here's how it works: Stephanopoulos is a total mouthpiece for the regime.
[00:13:14]  Stephanopoulos, if you look at that clip, he's reading off a piece of paper.
[00:13:19]  Someone fed it into his deck.
[00:13:21]  They said, you got to ask Ron Klain about this on the record.
[00:13:23]  You got to scare him.
[00:13:25]  Shock and awe.
[00:13:26]  And then Ron Klain's done with that interview.
[00:13:27]  He knew what that meant.
[00:13:29]  He knew what that was.
[00:13:30]  He knew what was behind that.
[00:13:32]  Stephanopoulos was the communications director for Clinton.
[00:13:35]  He's part of that whole DC cartel.
[00:13:37]  Him asking Ron Klain that question, it's for a reason.
[00:13:42]  It's because the drums of Biden's removal are beating.
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[00:14:59]  The southern border is wide open, and unfortunately, the regime is overcomplicating it.
[00:15:04]  But there are some fair questions that need to be asked about what can states do?
[00:15:08]  What can we do to try to secure a southern border?
[00:15:11]  And nobody is more qualified to talk about this than Tom Homan.
[00:15:16]  He's the former director of ICE and did a wonderful job under President Donald Trump securing our border and using every legal mechanism we had at our disposal to secure our country.
[00:15:27]  Tom, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:15:29]  Thanks, Trevor, Charlie.
[00:15:30]  So, Tom, let's just start with the facts and the basics.
[00:15:34]  How serious is the current crisis on the southern border right now as we talk?
[00:15:40]  I've never seen it, not even close to this badge.
[00:15:43]  Look, I started as border college in 1984.
[00:15:46]  As you just said, under President Trump, we had the most secure border in my 35-year career, in my lifetime.
[00:15:54]  And the data clearly shows that President Trump had illegal immigration down at a 35-40-year low, depending on what month you look at.
[00:16:02]  It was down 83%.
[00:16:04]  So that's what Joe Biden inherited, the most secure border we've ever had.
[00:16:08]  And within months, he signed over 70 executive orders, basically abolishing everything that we did on the Trump administration.
[00:16:15]  And now we went from the most secure border in this nation's history to an historic immigration crisis last year.
[00:16:22]  1.7, they claim.
[00:16:24]  It's actually 1.9.
[00:16:26]  So 1.9 illegal immigrants crossed our border last year under President Biden.
[00:16:30]  We went from the most secure border to historic, never seen these kinds of numbers before, numbers under President Biden.
[00:16:37]  The unaccompanied alien children, all-time high in the history of the U.S. Border Patrol.
[00:16:42]  Family groups, all-time high in the history of the Border Patrol.
[00:16:46]  And look, now we're in a new fiscal year, right?
[00:16:48]  So everybody says, well, what about this Title 42?
[00:16:51]  Even if they keep Title 42 in play, we're already over a million apprehensions this fiscal year, which means we're on the glider scope right now to beat 2 million.
[00:17:02]  So we're going to blow away last year's numbers, which were historic, before we even talk about Title 42.
[00:17:09]  This is incredible.
[00:17:11]  And let me tell you something: this isn't just my opinion.
[00:17:13]  I've talked to four different chief patrol agents.
[00:17:16]  They all tell me we have lost operational control of our southern border.
[00:17:21]  The United States don't control our southern border anymore.
[00:17:23]  Board of Patrol has lost control.
[00:17:25]  They can't stop what's coming.
[00:17:26]  And with Title 42 ends, God help us.
[00:17:30]  Some people are saying 500,000 a month.
[00:17:33]  Is that true?
[00:17:33]  And then also talk about how, even though we're apprehending people, that doesn't mean we're returning them to their country.
[00:17:39]  Many of them are released into the interior of the United States.
[00:17:42]  Is that correct?
[00:17:43]  Great question.
[00:17:44]  We just looked at the numbers the other day.
[00:17:46]  Since Joe Biden became president, he has released into the United States 575,000.
[00:17:54]  575,000 released into the United States.
[00:17:57]  And that's not counting over 600,000 gotaways.
[00:18:03]  So do the math.
[00:18:04]  No, you know, excuse me, Charlie, I made a mistake.
[00:18:06]  757,000.
[00:18:08]  I just looked at my notes.
[00:18:09]  750,000 released in the United States, another 600,000 gotaways.
[00:18:14]  So 1.3 illegal aliens crossed our border and made it into the United States.
[00:18:19]  No, I just want to pause really quickly.
[00:18:21]  Anything away we had in the past.
[00:18:23]  So that's 1.3 million new people into the United States.
[00:18:27]  That's more than the state of Montana in just the last 14 months.
[00:18:32]  And every single one of those did so illegally in violation of our laws.
[00:18:37]  Absolutely.
[00:18:39]  And one thing, I don't care what anybody's opinion is on immigration.
[00:18:44]  What Joe Biden has done is created a humanitarian crisis.
[00:18:48]  So he says Trump policies are inhumane.
[00:18:51]  Now, I've been calling Nazi and all kinds of names because we secured a border.
[00:18:56]  Let me make something clear.
[00:18:57]  Under Joe Biden, more migrants have died on U.S. soil during the first year of Biden than any time in the history of it.
[00:19:05]  Also, we got over 100, what 107,000 overdose deaths, and most of it's on fentanyl.
[00:19:11]  DEA says 95% of that fentanyl comes across the southwest border because Borvato is overwhelmed.
[00:19:18]  Half of them are not on the line doing their job.
[00:19:20]  They're in facilities processing, changing diapers, making baby formula.
[00:19:24]  So understand on Joe Biden, over 100,000 overdose deaths.
[00:19:28]  Highest migrant deaths in history of this country.
[00:19:31]  And that's just what the migrants, almost 700 found on U.S. soil.
[00:19:35]  We're not talking about the hundreds that die in Mexico or the hundreds that die in a daring death in Panama Canal.
[00:19:40]  Joe Biden's policies are killing people, including over 100,000 Americans.
[00:19:45]  You can say what you want about President Trump.
[00:19:47]  Anybody can say what they want about President Trump.
[00:19:49]  I personally think he's the greatest president ever worked for.
[00:19:51]  But when illegal immigration is down 83%, how many women aren't being raped?
[00:19:56]  How many billions of dollars are the cartels not making?
[00:19:59]  How many pounds of fentanyl aren't getting into countries to kill our young children?
[00:20:03]  How many children aren't dying crossing the river in the desert?
[00:20:06]  President Trump saved lives when he secured a border.
[00:20:09]  So the federal government is not, it's not, they're not going to do it.
[00:20:12]  I mean, so I want to just ask about what can be done then on the state level because I'm running out of patience with the federal government and I know that's a legal question.
[00:20:22]  But first, I want you just to explain in detail Title 42.
[00:20:26]  I know you mentioned it briefly.
[00:20:27]  We have some listeners that don't understand the nuance of it.
[00:20:30]  Talk about how Title II has just been a temporary measure.
[00:20:34]  And if it is repealed, which there's no explanation for it, what this summer could look like as far as the amount of people coming into our country.
[00:20:43]  Well, Title 42 is a CDC regulation.
[00:20:47]  Actually, I'm the one that brought that to President Trump when he had his surge.
[00:20:53]  We had remained in Mexico, third state countries.
[00:20:55]  And one day he asked me, What more can we do?
[00:20:58]  And I was aware of this regulation.
[00:21:01]  It's talked about the Immigration Nationality Act.
[00:21:04]  When you're dealing with a pandemic and public health crisis, that you can actually shut down the borders.
[00:21:08]  So I mentioned to him, you know, you might want to check the CDC because we're in the middle of this pandemic and there's certain things you can do to close the border down.
[00:21:16]  He followed up with Mark Morgan and Steve Miller and a few of his other staff.
[00:21:19]  And sure enough, in a couple of weeks, CDC said, look, we are in the middle of a pandemic.
[00:21:23]  We got hundreds of thousands of people dying.
[00:21:25]  We're going to shut the borders down.
[00:21:26]  It made perfect sense.
[00:21:28]  Now that the CDC may pull that back, saying this country's no see, you know, COVID is no longer a public safety crisis anymore, which I find amazing.
[00:21:37]  But they said they're going to pull it back in May.
[00:21:40]  And understand, under Title 42, almost a million illegal aliens were sent back to Metro, refused entry because of Title 42.
[00:21:49]  Now, those same people, if they live Title 42, can come to the border.
[00:21:54]  They can turn themselves into Borgo, claim asylum, or want to see a judge, and they got to be processed by what we call Title VIII processing, which is going to take a lot of time rather than just kicking them back.
[00:22:04]  You're actually going to process them and create a file on them.
[00:22:08]  This is going to cause massive delays with a board patrol.
[00:22:12]  It's going to cause massive backups in the stations.
[00:22:15]  So I want to see AOC and the rest of them come screaming that these facilities are overcrowded like they did on the Trump administration.
[00:22:21]  But here's the worst of it.
[00:22:24]  You hear what Secretary Mayorkus is talking about.
[00:22:26]  He's going to detail more agents down there.
[00:22:29]  He's going to detail FEMA down there to process and release quicker.
[00:22:35]  The guy's a moron.
[00:22:37]  When you process release quicker, that just brings more.
[00:22:40]  They should be detaining him.
[00:22:41]  But the department's on record saying, well, there's not enough detention beds.
[00:22:45]  As of this morning, they had over 10,000 empty beds already paid for that they're refusing to fill because the progressive left don't like private detention and they want to put more people on alternatives of detention, which means 33% will abscond the first month and less than 12% when order removed will leave because they're not in custody.
[00:23:06]  99% of everybody ICE deports, they deport from a bed in detention.
[00:23:11]  But when you release them, they're in the wind.
[00:23:14]  That's exactly what the Dems want.
[00:23:15]  Not only do they want all these people to come, they don't want them ever to leave.
[00:23:19]  And they put a lot of pressure on the private contractors, which is a not very talked, not talked about issue here, where the Democrats just go after the contractors and then that's the way they defund ICE.
[00:23:29]  So let me ask you, though, about this.
[00:23:32]  I have two remaining questions.
[00:23:33]  This seems like it's by design.
[00:23:35]  There's no way that this could be incompetence.
[00:23:37]  Do you agree with that?
[00:23:38]  Absolutely.
[00:23:39]  This is, look, this isn't mismanagement.
[00:23:41]  This isn't competent.
[00:23:41]  This is by design.
[00:23:43]  Joe Biden, look, he was vice president under Obama.
[00:23:47]  And we were in that year, 2012, we removed 409,000 migrants, the most we ever did.
[00:23:52]  Joe Biden voted for border walls when he's a senator.
[00:23:56]  He knew exactly what he was doing when he sold his self out to progressive left, you know, made all these promises during the campaign.
[00:24:04]  As he got in office, he kept those promises.
[00:24:06]  And everybody says, why would the Dennis want this?
[00:24:09]  Look, he also overturned the Trump census rule.
[00:24:11]  So millions of people now are be counted in the next census in sanctuary cities.
[00:24:15]  And what does that equal?
[00:24:16]  More seats in the house for the Democrats.
[00:24:20]  Equals perpetual power.
[00:24:21]  That's a great point.
[00:24:22]  So this is by design, absolutely by design.
[00:24:25]  So I want to explore this with you.
[00:24:27]  And this is a longer topic.
[00:24:29]  And look, I just think that Arizona and Texas need to secure the border themselves.
[00:24:33]  They need to create their own Border Patrol.
[00:24:35]  They need to arrest and deport people out of the country.
[00:24:37]  That's an unprecedented thing to say.
[00:24:41]  I don't care.
[00:24:41]  We're at a point where the federal government has betrayed its own voters and citizens.
[00:24:46]  Talk about how realistic that would be.
[00:24:47]  And technically, it's supposed to be the federal government, but what sort of situation are we when the federal government decides not to do their job?
[00:24:53]  Not Border Patrol, not ICE, but the president and Mayorkis decide that.
[00:24:57]  What are we supposed to do?
[00:24:59]  I want to say just one thing about the Board of Patrol.
[00:25:01]  I talked to a Board of Patrol agent last night, a lot of them calm.
[00:25:03]  They have my personal cell number because I go down there so much and I feel for these guys.
[00:25:07]  I wore that uniform.
[00:25:07]  I know it's like to stand on those lines.
[00:25:09]  And a border patrol agent called me last night.
[00:25:11]  So, Mr. Holman, I've been in the Board Patrol about 30 years, and I was putting my uniform on last night.
[00:25:16]  I was looking in the mirror, make sure my gig line's straight, my uniforms look good like I always do.
[00:25:19]  I'm proud to be a border patrol agent.
[00:25:21]  And that moment, I realized first time in my career, I looked in the mirror and says, I used to be a border patrol agent.
[00:25:27]  I used to enforce laws.
[00:25:28]  Now I'm a part of the biggest criminal alien smuggling network in the world.
[00:25:33]  That's exactly right.
[00:25:35]  Border Patrol are people are smuggling to the border, and border patrol is forced to process them and release them.
[00:25:40]  So he feels like he's part of the smuggling organization.
[00:25:42]  So my heart goes out to those guys, but you're exactly right.
[00:25:45]  Charlie, we're actually talking to, I've had several meetings with the governor of Texas.
[00:25:50]  You know, the Attorney General of Phoenix last, just about three weeks ago, declared this an invasion, which we needed under the Constitution, the invasion clause, where that says that when you're under an invasion, the states have certain powers.
[00:26:02]  So we're actually talking to Governor Abbott and his Attorney General's staff.
[00:26:07]  We've had several meetings.
[00:26:09]  We just set a bunch of information that we received from constitutional scholars over the country that thinks he can do this, enforce immigration law.
[00:26:17]  So that is right for discussion right now.
[00:26:19]  It's being discussed with Street and the state of Texas.
[00:26:21]  Ken Cuccinelli is taking the lead on this, who used to be the deputy.
[00:26:25]  He's very knowledgeable and knows the Constitution better than anybody I know.
[00:26:29]  So I think it's going to happen.
[00:26:31]  And you said that you think it's really reaching.
[00:26:36]  It is, but I agree with you.
[00:26:38]  Our country's in trouble.
[00:26:39]  No, I mean, that's the point: I don't care.
[00:26:42]  Like, I mean, just you got to do it.
[00:26:44]  We lost control of our southern border.
[00:26:47]  Just last month, here's what should shock everybody.
[00:26:50]  Board Patrol data got released.
[00:26:52]  62,000 people got into the country last month and didn't get arrested by the Board of Patrol based on camera traffic, drone traffic, and censor traffic.
[00:27:00]  62,000 people walked across the border, were never touched by a uniform.
[00:27:05]  Who are those 62,000 people?
[00:27:10]  Are they criminals?
[00:27:11]  Are they known suspected terrorists?
[00:27:12]  Board Patrol arrested 17 people on FBI screening database.
[00:27:16]  How many of that 62,000 last month might be a terrorist?
[00:27:20]  How many of the 600,000 gotaways last year could be a terrorist?
[00:27:23]  This is no longer an immigration issue.
[00:27:25]  It's a national security issue.

=== Border Patrol Data Leak (05:45) ===

[00:27:27]  And the states have to do everything they can to protect not only their state, but its country.
[00:27:33]  Look, there's so much political pressure out there from the left and the woke mob, and it's from the Democrat Party.
[00:27:38]  Our society has ultimately been controlled by canceled cultural elites.
[00:27:43]  Look, we talk openly on this program about what you need to do.
[00:27:48]  And so I am involved.
[00:27:49]  I am invested personally and also through the Charlie Kirk show to try to do everything we possibly can to try and push back against these Democrats and their lies.
[00:27:59]  And so look, you can get a signed picture by President Trump himself.
[00:28:02]  Look, I vetted this.
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[00:28:10]  All you have to do is text the word victory to 55404 today to enter.
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[00:28:23]  Look, here's what we're really doing, though.
[00:28:25]  We're building a grassroots army to push back to try to win the Senate race in Georgia, try to win the Senate race in Arizona.
[00:28:30]  This is paid for by the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
[00:28:33]  And I could tell you this: we have got to retire Chuck Schumer.
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[00:28:53]  So, Tom, talk about the different countries that are being represented.
[00:28:57]  I was on the southern border in Yuma.
[00:28:58]  You know the area well.
[00:29:00]  I saw the passports.
[00:29:02]  You can go right around one part of it, you know, right near the Native American reservation where they don't allow the wall.
[00:29:07]  And there were thousands of passports that people dropped.
[00:29:10]  They dropped their passports.
[00:29:12]  Talk about why they do that and the amount of countries.
[00:29:15]  We're talking about Georgia, Kazakhstan, that are coming across the southern border.
[00:29:19]  World Patrol is arrested people from 157 different countries so far.
[00:29:22]  157.
[00:29:24]  157 countries, almost all of them.
[00:29:26]  And look, some of these countries are sponsors of terrorism.
[00:29:29]  Syria, Russia, North Korea.
[00:29:32]  I mean, they're 157 countries.
[00:29:35]  And the reason they dropped the passports, because they want to be identified.
[00:29:38]  Look, some of these countries, these third-world nations, they don't have like the United States had, they don't have biographical information to store the computer.
[00:29:45]  So if these people have any derogatory information in their past, if there are no suspected terrorists, have terrorist ties, of course you're not going to carry a passport.
[00:29:54]  They'll give a different name.
[00:29:56]  There probably won't be anything biographical to be found on them.
[00:29:59]  And plus, the border right now, they're releasing so quick, they're not vetting them like they're supposed to.
[00:30:05]  You remember what happened in Afghanistan, and they actually spent time trying to vet them, but they couldn't vet them because there was no chief of mission in Afghanistan, no access to Afghanistanian government documents.
[00:30:15]  It's even worse on the southern border.
[00:30:17]  They're just processing as quick as possible and releasing them.
[00:30:20]  They're taking some biographical information, a set of print, and thousands have been released on a notice to report, which means they weren't even putting immigration proceedings.
[00:30:29]  So when the secretary says, well, the ones we released are putting immigration proceedings lie.
[00:30:34]  They're giving a notice to report.
[00:30:37]  We got to trust them to show up in an ICE office when they think they can and be scheduled for arrest and be scheduled for an immigration hearing.
[00:30:45]  How many think are we going to do that?
[00:30:46]  Not very many.
[00:30:48]  So they dump their passports because they simply don't want to be identified who they are.
[00:30:52]  It's unbelievable.
[00:30:54]  So in closing, let's say the states want to do this and they have to do this.
[00:30:59]  What can they do, Tom?
[00:31:01]  Start their own border patrol, drone reconnaissance, surveillance.
[00:31:05]  What can be done?
[00:31:07]  You know, they can secure this border in a week.
[00:31:09]  If they turn on the Trump policies back on, you know what?
[00:31:12]  I don't like this administration.
[00:31:14]  I have no respect for administration.
[00:31:15]  But if they ask me to come back, me and a couple other people, to secure the border, we do it in a week, a week.
[00:31:22]  We dust off the Trump plans that we worked on and reinstate and implement them.
[00:31:26]  Now, Title 42 has gone away, right?
[00:31:28]  So if they really want to secure the border, then remain in Mexico still there.
[00:31:33]  But go remain in Mexico, cross the border like the Trump administration did, but they're not going to do it.
[00:31:38]  They don't want to secure this border.
[00:31:39]  So, look, a couple of things.
[00:31:41]  Number one, what's Tom Holman doing?
[00:31:42]  I'm suing the hell out of him.
[00:31:44]  I've written more affidavits suing this president than I did my whole career as an agent.
[00:31:49]  I mean, I never thought I'd serve six presidents dr. Ronald Reagan retired and actually sue a sitting president for failing to do his job.
[00:31:58]  So, I've worked with the state of Texas, I worked for the state of Arizona, state of Florida, and Missouri.
[00:32:03]  And we're five and all.
[00:32:05]  We're going to keep sue him.
[00:32:06]  I just testified in Houston a month ago on the ICE priorities, saying, you know, these priorities are ridiculous.
[00:32:12]  It just means ICE can't arrest anybody anymore.
[00:32:14]  You know, we talked about Secretary Mayorkas made a statement: being in the country illegally is not enough to be arrested.
[00:32:22]  What kind of message does that send to the rest of the world?
[00:32:24]  Enter the country legally.
[00:32:26]  We prove when you release you.
[00:32:27]  And guess what?
[00:32:28]  Even if you show up in court, get order removed, that judge's order can't mean anything because ICE can't execute it.
[00:32:36]  Everything they've done is either process, quickly, and release or bring more.
[00:32:42]  Why would you make a statement like that in the middle of a historic surge other than more?
[00:32:48]  It's because they want it.
[00:32:49]  Tom, we're out of time.
[00:32:50]  Thank you so much, former head of ICE.
[00:32:53]  I know what you're doing, man.
[00:32:54]  We need people like you out there educating the American people.
[00:32:56]  So, God bless you.
[00:32:58]  God bless you.
[00:32:58]  We'll have you back on again soon.
[00:33:00]  Thank you.
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