The Charlie Kirk Show - Transgender Tyranny and the Truth About the Vaccine with Daniel Horowitz
Aired: 2022-03-24
Duration: 35:35


=== Living Through Mass Societal Changes (02:38) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, it's Anna Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:00:01]  We take pause on this episode and ask where did all of this kind of trans tyranny come from?
[00:00:07]  And is there a fault line that has been created with the Democrats on this issue?
[00:00:12]  I think you're going to really be excited at the political opportunity here now that the idea of a woman is a political issue, which is just ridiculous.
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[00:01:58]  I want to just take a moment and pause and kind of just process this moment we're living through.
[00:02:06]  There's a lot of different takeaways here that I think are really important because we're living through mass societal and political changes.
[00:02:14]  And if you don't kind of slow down and just kind of do an update and a reflection on it, it's pretty easy to miss because you're living through something that is an accelerated pace of change around a topic, quite honestly, that my opinions are very strong on, but I don't want to spend nearly as much time as I'm spending on this topic.

=== Winning Over Feminine Mystique Critics (09:40) ===

[00:02:38]  I just don't.
[00:02:40]  It's a very important topic.
[00:02:42]  It's one of the most important topics because they're making it important, but it's not exactly, in my personal opinion, the thing I want to just labor over and over again.
[00:02:51]  But we're leaving really us no choice.
[00:02:53]  And that is this entire topic of what is a man and what is a woman.
[00:02:58]  They're forcing the hand.
[00:03:01]  And it's in the last week, you know, I sat down with our team.
[00:03:04]  I said, what a week.
[00:03:07]  I mean, in the last week, we have Thomas, who has won the NCAA championship as a biological man, won the women's swimming national championship.
[00:03:21]  That happened.
[00:03:22]  And if you even spoke out against it, or if you even push backed against it, you would be potentially banned from social media, ridiculed.
[00:03:32]  The media just kind of acted like this was totally normal, perfectly fine.
[00:03:37]  So that happened.
[00:03:39]  I got banned from Twitter a couple days ago for not even misgendering somebody, but dead naming somebody.
[00:03:48]  Dead naming, essentially, is using the name that a trans person had before they transitioned.
[00:03:57]  Somehow, it's a form of harassment to dead name somebody to use the name from someone's birth certificate.
[00:04:05]  And by the way, I wrote it on March 15th, and I was banned on the 22nd.
[00:04:10]  And so you have Thomas, who wins the NCAA championship as a man, and we're all just supposed to accept it.
[00:04:19]  You have Ricardo Levine.
[00:04:20]  Is that his name?
[00:04:21]  Ricardo or Richard or what?
[00:04:24]  Is it Richard?
[00:04:24]  Ricardo Levine.
[00:04:26]  Kidding.
[00:04:27]  Fine.
[00:04:27]  Rich.
[00:04:28]  I'm not dead naming if I say Ricardo, right?
[00:04:32]  Rachel, whatever Levine, which we're supposed to act as if it's perfectly normal, it's fine.
[00:04:41]  Who basically calls out the alphabet mafia schwatstrappa or shock troops to come into the streets of Twitter and just purge anyone that dares dead names them.
[00:04:55]  Okay.
[00:04:56]  Then you have Disney come out and do a full court press and basically put $5 million towards the human rights campaign because Ron DeSantis is trying to push a bill that will protect second, third, and fourth graders around this issue.
[00:05:14]  And then all within a week, you have a Supreme Court nominee, Katanji Brown Jackson, who refuses to tell us what a man or a woman is or just what a woman is, even though she is a woman, we can only assume.
[00:05:29]  And all of this is during Woman's Appreciation Month.
[00:05:33]  What's going on here?
[00:05:35]  Well, if I were to look a level deeper, is the left and the kind of cultural forces behind the left is they are unveiling a massive fault line in their political movement.
[00:05:52]  Democrats and the left are about to expose one of the great political exoduses we're ever going to see.
[00:06:04]  Leading up to the 2016 election, it was conceived to be impossible for Republicans to win white working class voters, specifically in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
[00:06:17]  They are now the base of the Republican Party.
[00:06:20]  The muscular class is the strongest part of the Republican Party.
[00:06:24]  It's changed dramatically in the case in just six to eight years, largely because Democrats have gone so socially woke, but also thanks to the pro-American policies, pro-American immigration policies that made the base of the Republican Party the old base of the Democrat Party.
[00:06:41]  It happened almost overnight.
[00:06:44]  And so you have Ricardo Levine, you have William Thomas winning national championships, you have Disney acting like men and women have no differences, and Katanji Brown Jackson saying she doesn't know what a woman is.
[00:06:59]  I'm going to make an argument.
[00:07:04]  And it's a really good sign, I believe.
[00:07:06]  This is happening so fast.
[00:07:09]  It's so rapid.
[00:07:11]  It's so hyper-aggressive that there is an opportunity the same way that Donald Trump won over white working class voters, that traditional, older, legit feminists are going to start to push back against the Democrat Party.
[00:07:28]  We're already starting to see this with Kara Dansky, who is a guest on our program with a TBN special that we did.
[00:07:34]  We're already starting to see the early signs of a mass defection from the Democrat Party.
[00:07:40]  This is not popular.
[00:07:42]  It just isn't.
[00:07:43]  It's not popular to kick people off Twitter because they deadname somebody, whatever that means.
[00:07:49]  It's not popular to then kick Tucker Carlson off Twitter for talking about it, and they're about to kick Dan Bongino probably off of it for talking about it.
[00:07:57]  It's not popular to have dudes win women's NCAA swimming championships.
[00:08:01]  It's just not.
[00:08:03]  It's not popular to teach second graders about perverted gender ideology.
[00:08:08]  It just isn't.
[00:08:09]  It's not.
[00:08:10]  And if you don't believe it's perverted, go look at some of these videos of these teachers that they post themselves on TikTok.
[00:08:16]  It is.
[00:08:16]  It's disgusting.
[00:08:18]  They're talking about things that no one should talk about in a decent civilized setting, let alone the second graders.
[00:08:22]  They should be protected.
[00:08:24]  It's not popular to have a justice in the Supreme Court that scoffs with smug arrogance as if you asked what the Pythagorean theorem was and the thought process, the mathematical proof of zero when you asked what a woman is.
[00:08:36]  It's like not that popular.
[00:08:38]  All this during Woman's Appreciation Month.
[00:08:41]  And so, you know, I'm a big NCAA basketball fan.
[00:08:46]  I reluctantly have a YouTube TV subscription.
[00:08:48]  It's how I watch TV.
[00:08:49]  And it's actually a pretty good service, even though they're a bunch of commies.
[00:08:52]  And so I go through it, and it's amazing because it's so intensely like propaganda where they say celebrating Woman's Appreciation Month.
[00:09:03]  It's like, that's weird.
[00:09:04]  Like, Google is trying to tell us that we need to appreciate the boss babe woman.
[00:09:08]  Okay, fine, great.
[00:09:10]  You know, the wake up early.
[00:09:11]  I could do it all woman.
[00:09:12]  Whatever.
[00:09:12]  Sure.
[00:09:12]  At least you think you're a woman, so we could start there.
[00:09:15]  All the while that men are winning NCAA swimming championships, you have a man who's running your public health department under the Department of Defense.
[00:09:23]  Disney is saying that kids shouldn't learn about this stuff.
[00:09:26]  And Katanji Brown Jackson is saying she doesn't know what a woman is.
[00:09:30]  And then you censor voices that dare talk about it on Twitter.
[00:09:32]  This sort of change is not healthy for a society.
[00:09:35]  In fact, there will be a backlash is what I'm saying.
[00:09:37]  And it's not going to be like a typical political backlash.
[00:09:40]  It's going to be a shell shock the same way that 2016 stunned all the mainstream media prognosticators.
[00:09:47]  I don't know what's happening.
[00:09:48]  Donald Trump is winning Pennsylvania, these white working class voters.
[00:09:52]  Mark my words.
[00:09:53]  It might not happen immediately.
[00:09:54]  But if this crap keeps up, all of a sudden, you're going to have like one of those feminine mystique feminists from the 1960s and 70s say, whoa.
[00:10:07]  Okay.
[00:10:08]  I was all for tolerance, but like now the patriarchy is now kind of like being run by the trans lobby.
[00:10:17]  And they're crushing women.
[00:10:18]  And that's what's so funny about the old feminist argument is that if you go read the essay, The Feminine Mystique, which I think actually might be a book.
[00:10:28]  I think it is a book.
[00:10:29]  And you should also read the boy, I'll think of it.
[00:10:33]  I think it's the Niagara Convention Declaration.
[00:10:37]  But there's this declaration that came from feminists in the 1960s, and then Feminine Mystique came, which is all about how men are oppressing women.
[00:10:45]  That was the whole complaint of feminism.
[00:10:48]  We believe that complaint is overblown.
[00:10:51]  We think there might be some truth here and there, isolated examples, but generally men and women need each other, and men are better at women in some things, and women are better at men than some things, and God made them for each other for specific purposes.
[00:11:01]  But now you have men winning NCAA championships, which fulfills the prophecy of the feminists.
[00:11:08]  And I don't think they're going to put up with it.
[00:11:10]  I don't.
[00:11:11]  I think it is going to red pill all the same feminists that used to scream at me in the face that hated Brett Kavanaugh.
[00:11:18]  I'm telling you, there's an opportunity to win them over.
[00:11:24]  You got to look around right now.
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=== Liberal Movements Reaching Breaking Points (05:24) ===

[00:12:19]  Betty Fredan wrote Feminine Mystique back in 1963, which was kind of the starting gun, if you will, that started the race of American second-wave American feminism.
[00:12:32]  She said, Quote, the only way for a woman, as for a man, to find herself, to know herself as a person, is to be by creative work of her own.
[00:12:41]  She said, quote, each suburban wife struggles with it alone as she makes the beds, shops for groceries, matched slipcover material, ate peanut butter sandwiches with her children, chauffeured Cub Scouts and brownies laid beside her husband at night.
[00:12:54]  She was afraid to even ask herself the question: Is this all?
[00:12:58]  Now, this was Betty Fredan's kind of drumbeat that she was trying to play into what was basically suburban isolationism.
[00:13:08]  That a lot of women in suburban America in the 1960s, post-World War II, they got married and was kind of had the children, which were the baby boomers.
[00:13:19]  And Betty Fredan wrote this piece, very convincing, very, very persuasive, basically saying you can have it all.
[00:13:27]  That just being a mother is really empty and vacuous.
[00:13:32]  And it was one of the best-selling books of the time.
[00:13:34]  But Betty Fredan was basically unapologetic to the idea of what a woman actually was.
[00:13:42]  She would have been repulsed by this entire trans movement that's occurring right now.
[00:13:48]  And so I just think it's important to take pause.
[00:13:50]  Why is a movement that is so unpopular moving with such velocity through our society?
[00:13:58]  And so when I mean it's not popular, it's so overwhelming.
[00:14:01]  America can't agree on anything.
[00:14:03]  75%, right around 70% of Americans believe that sports should be separated based on gender.
[00:14:10]  Now, I thought it would be 90%, but okay.
[00:14:13]  And so you have Democrats that are not just doubling and tripling down on this, they're making it like policy of the entire country.
[00:14:22]  And this is not going to be, I don't think this is going to take well.
[00:14:26]  It isn't.
[00:14:27]  In fact, I think it's only going to increase in the other direction.
[00:14:30]  I think most people are afraid to even comment about it.
[00:14:32]  I think most people are afraid to even talk about it because they don't want to be called all these hateful names.
[00:14:37]  And at first, it always starts this way.
[00:14:39]  This is the way all liberal groups movements start.
[00:14:42]  They start as we must first identify an oppressed group and identify an oppressor and then create tension amongst the two, create combat.
[00:14:53]  And then the media allegedly is the one that reports on the combat, when in reality, the media is the one that is encouraging, inciting, and designing the combat itself.
[00:15:02]  By combat, I mean it metaphorically, of course, but let's just say that the struggle, that's a word they use all the time, between the oppressed and the oppressor, and then have this kind of tension.
[00:15:12]  And the media then will write the piece such as trans people just want rights.
[00:15:17]  You go right now to the ACLU, which used to be a respected organization, which is a complete and total joke.
[00:15:23]  Of course, they half their screen when you go to aclu.org is asking for money because that's really what they care about.
[00:15:30]  And they have one after the other.
[00:15:31]  Texas wants to take trans kids from their supportive parents.
[00:15:35]  We're suing.
[00:15:36]  That's not what's happening at all, obviously, but that's the way they put it forward.
[00:15:39]  And the trans issue has become like a major part of the ACLU website.
[00:15:45]  What's so funny, though, is that it says right here that the ACLU says, take the pledge, support trans youth now, right next to protect pregnant workers' rights.
[00:15:56]  Now, the ACLU is very careful.
[00:15:59]  If you read through the pregnant workers' rights thing, it doesn't say they're women.
[00:16:03]  You see, that would be against the regime narrative.
[00:16:06]  You're not allowed to say that.
[00:16:07]  Remember, this is how wild your country has gone out of kind of whack in the last year.
[00:16:14]  Biden put forward his, Biden put forward his budget and said that people that mothers, he called them birthing people.
[00:16:25]  Democrats believe 5541 that gender identity should determine what sport you play on.
[00:16:32]  Even Democrats agree with this.
[00:16:35]  And so this is going to reach a breaking point.
[00:16:38]  The same way that Democrats took for granted the white working muscular class in Pennsylvania and Missouri and North Dakota.
[00:16:47]  And now basically white working class is it's so Democrats can't win over white working class voters anymore.
[00:16:53]  That is done.
[00:16:54]  That is over.
[00:16:57]  I believe that this is going to backfire the exact same way.
[00:17:03]  And not just a little bit.
[00:17:04]  I think it's going to be a disproportionate tsunami that will just overwhelm the Democrat regime.
[00:17:12]  So, okay, yeah, I mean, I guess the trans thing is super popular in downtown San Francisco, but the rest of the country's actually really annoyed by this, one, and they're disgusted by the injustice of it, two.
[00:17:26]  Number three, they don't want to live in a country where biological reality is something that a Supreme Court nominee scoffs at and smugly dismisses.
[00:17:36]  They just don't.
[00:17:38]  Democrats are going to pay a big price for this.
[00:17:40]  I'm confident of it.

=== Antibodies As A Double Edged Sword (15:31) ===

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[00:18:58]  Daniel, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:19:01]  Hey, great to be back with you in this great time of distress.
[00:19:04]  Yeah, something like that.
[00:19:06]  So Daniel, are we ready for the ultimate I told you so moment when it comes to all this COVID tyranny?
[00:19:11]  I mean, the evidence just seems to be overwhelming.
[00:19:14]  Well, they made sure we didn't have that.
[00:19:16]  See, I told you so moment because they had the fourth vaccine, namely Zelensky.
[00:19:21]  He is the new booster, and that's why nothing matters.
[00:19:25]  Everything was cured.
[00:19:26]  There's no COVID, even though it's spreading in record numbers in places where every vulnerable person has a booster.
[00:19:33]  There's no vaccine injury, even though surveys, life insurance, health insurance data, military data, theirs all signal a cataclysmic degree of long-term, not just those first few weeks upon getting the shot, but really long-term damage.
[00:19:48]  We have more excess deaths now coming out in the last few months, even though the vaccine uptake has been kind of stagnant.
[00:19:57]  Yeah, there's a lot to talk about, but it's not in the news and it's done by design.
[00:20:02]  As Rush Limbaugh used to always say, it's like a drive-by, the drive-by media.
[00:20:07]  After their carnage is done and everyone kind of starts to realize what's going on, they take their roadshow down and they're shooting bullets into the next venue and shocking the system with supply chain issues, just like they did the first time.
[00:20:21]  So we're really on the second half of the great reset.
[00:20:25]  So we can't catch our breath and recognize the magnitude of the damage from the first half.
[00:20:31]  So I want to read this story here, or I'll just read the title and you can explain it for us.
[00:20:35]  Record infections in super vaxed United Kingdom seniors as double vaxed show negative efficacy against COVID death.
[00:20:42]  Explain.
[00:20:43]  Sure.
[00:20:44]  Obviously, you know, what we all saw in totality was that quantitatively and for a while, qualitatively, the virus seemed worse the second year, 2021, after the vax was introduced.
[00:20:56]  In fact, I looked at 11, there's been 11 billion doses administered throughout the world.
[00:21:03]  And I mean, that's that's a lot.
[00:21:05]  I mean, if it has anywhere near the efficacy, you know, that they advertised, this thing should have been much, much less than in 2020.
[00:21:14]  But in fact, 72% of the deaths, okay, not just cases, I mean, that's way beyond that, but deaths.
[00:21:21]  If you look at our world and data, 72% occurred after the vaccines were introduced to the population.
[00:21:30]  So it qualitatively got worse.
[00:21:31]  So, okay, you know, that's kind of funny.
[00:21:34]  It clearly didn't work.
[00:21:36]  But then I thought once Omicron came by hook or by crook, precisely because it didn't work and all these people got it anyway.
[00:21:44]  Okay, so now you have immunity from prior infection and then it will go away.
[00:21:48]  But now it's still not going away.
[00:21:51]  You know, Asia got hit, South Korea, Hong Kong, they got their worst death curve, not just case curve, death curve by far, you know, like 50 times more than before in South Korea, precisely after every senior had three shots, every adult had two and a majority had three.
[00:22:13]  And now in Europe, the UK, Austria, some of the continental European countries, now they have Scotland.
[00:22:23]  Scotland has, I mean, you're talking about, because remember, when you have some of these 80% numbers, they're including kids.
[00:22:31]  So when you get to any realm of possibility of dying from this shot, you're talking about almost everyone's got three shots.
[00:22:39]  Scotland, Ireland, they have more deaths than they've ever had.
[00:22:46]  What gives, so I go through in this column what Gert von den Bosch and a lot of these guys were warning about original antigenic sin.
[00:22:54]  And they said, if you train the body to react stupidly the first time and then reinforce it with, you know, three, four shots, it's going to teach the body that any respiratory virus, we're going to misfire.
[00:23:09]  And we're not going to send up the, you know, specific cytotoxic T cells geared towards the respiratory tract.
[00:23:16]  We're going to have these blood-based antibodies.
[00:23:19]  Remember that they, very interesting, they always bragged about the amount of antibodies this thing produced.
[00:23:27]  And they're like, this thing produces more antibodies than natural infection.
[00:23:31]  And, you know, before I studied any of this and had these doctors and scientists on my show, you know, I thought, yeah, antibodies is everything.
[00:23:37]  And then the more I learned about it, you know, antibodies are a double-edged sword.
[00:23:40]  There's autoantibodies.
[00:23:42]  They cause autoimmune.
[00:23:43]  They misfire.
[00:23:45]  God made our system react in a way that you produce the right amount, the right type in the right places in the body.
[00:23:52]  You have this garbage just have this uncontrolled reaction.
[00:23:57]  Okay.
[00:23:58]  So that's not a good thing.
[00:24:00]  So we now know it depletes your T cells, which are the more important response, and it creates this original antigenic sin in a micro level in the body of the people that have it.
[00:24:11]  In the macro sense, it creates viral immune escape.
[00:24:13]  This is what Vandenbosch was warning about.
[00:24:15]  Luke Montenier, he just died.
[00:24:18]  He won the Nobel Prize for discovering HIV in 2016.
[00:24:22]  He won that prize.
[00:24:24]  He was warning about this.
[00:24:26]  And now we're seeing, yeah, I mean, this thing keeps going and going and going.
[00:24:32]  And now it appears that because of the mass vaccination, you can never achieve herd immunity because it slides back immunity from prior infection.
[00:24:41]  And the data is bearing this out.
[00:24:43]  Do you think that there's another wave coming?
[00:24:45]  Do you think that it seems that there's a little bit of a whisper that we're not out of this yet?
[00:24:50]  Omicron might have helped a little bit.
[00:24:52]  What's your thought on that?
[00:24:53]  There's no doubt.
[00:24:54]  I mean, so far, four or five waves, we've never seen a time where, you know, Europe got it, but we somehow didn't get it.
[00:25:00]  So, I mean, I would imagine it is coming here.
[00:25:03]  There are signs it's coming here.
[00:25:06]  And we have the same problems we had before, that they're blocking treatment.
[00:25:13]  What they are using is harmful.
[00:25:14]  They're emdesivir.
[00:25:16]  And the shots not only don't work now, but this wave we're seeing qualitatively, it's worse among those that got the shots because basically they have no immune system left.
[00:25:27]  I mean, this is straight up.
[00:25:29]  The Stanford Department of Pathology published a cell publication.
[00:25:34]  They published an article about original antigenic sin and they're seeing an increased response for the Wuhan strain and a reduced response for whatever's thrown at it now.
[00:25:46]  So we've given people these outdated shots that misfire.
[00:25:50]  We have negative 300% efficacy in the UK, right?
[00:25:54]  So every Thursday, they publish today they're actually publishing their new report.
[00:26:00]  I haven't gotten a chance to look at it, but this is last week's report.
[00:26:04]  Every single cohort, they're three to four times more likely to get the virus than without the vaccine.
[00:26:12]  This is straight up age-adjusted, adjusted for vaccine rates by population.
[00:26:20]  Straight up, negative efficacy.
[00:26:22]  The double dose cohort that had two, but not three, they're already on negative efficacy for death.
[00:26:30]  And the three cohort is getting close to it.
[00:26:33]  And they're going to overtake them, which is why they're talking about a fourth.
[00:26:36]  It's kind of like a heroin addiction.
[00:26:38]  The more you have it, the more you need, because you're worse off than you are without it.
[00:26:42]  And then it's a death spiral.
[00:26:44]  I mean, this is disgusting, but it's not stopping.
[00:26:48]  I mean, Moderna and Pfizer are introducing a fourth.
[00:26:50]  They're introducing, they're submitting for authorization for babies.
[00:26:56]  It's just unconscionable.
[00:26:58]  You know, Charlie, this is not just about the fact that we haven't immunized ourselves against the next iteration of tyranny.
[00:27:05]  It's that we haven't even solved the current version.
[00:27:07]  I mean, the mass mandates on the plane are still there.
[00:27:10]  The mandates in the military and health care workers are still there.
[00:27:16]  This thing is still being distributed.
[00:27:18]  This should have been taken off the market by, you know, eons.
[00:27:22]  In other words, last year it had a little bit of efficacy, very illusory.
[00:27:26]  The former CDC director of New York Times just called it a flash in the pan, but it caused a lot of problems.
[00:27:31]  Now we can say firmly for the current iterations, it is negative effective.
[00:27:38]  So it's not just a net liability, it's an absolute liability.
[00:27:42]  It needs to be taken off the markets for all age groups at this point.
[00:27:46]  It's not just, you know, younger people.
[00:27:49]  And we need a full investigation into the scope of the problem and how to treat, you know, instead of $14 billion for Ukraine, could you imagine what we could have done with that to treat the millions of people, millions that are in distress?
[00:28:04]  They don't want to be recognized.
[00:28:06]  Doctors won't treat them.
[00:28:08]  You know, we're talking a lot about people dying suddenly from strokes and heart attacks, blood clots, the autoimmune, the immune suppression, and then the growth of the sudden metastatic cancers.
[00:28:19]  But you just look at things that seem minor, like tinnitus, the ringing in the ears.
[00:28:24]  There's numerous neurological inflammation.
[00:28:27]  The neurological issues might be greater in scope and magnitude than even the cardiac.
[00:28:32]  And tinnitus, there's 20,000 entries just in VARES alone.
[00:28:38]  And something like that's going to be woefully underreported.
[00:28:41]  Even the Mayo Clinic doctors, one of them got it himself, is admitting it's tens of thousands of people likely have that.
[00:28:48]  I mean, that could destroy someone's life completely.
[00:28:51]  They can't live normally.
[00:28:52]  It drives people to suicide.
[00:28:54]  They need help.
[00:28:55]  But you know what?
[00:28:57]  You can't detect, diagnose, and treat something that doesn't exist.
[00:29:01]  So in all the academic literature, you're not allowed to publish, hey, we're seeing inflammatory markers of the spike, the lipid nanoparticles.
[00:29:09]  Here's what we think is causing it.
[00:29:10]  No, because you're not allowed to recognize it exists.
[00:29:15]  This is all still going on.
[00:29:18]  And there's not an inkling in the Republican Party to care about this whatsoever.
[00:29:25]  Why do you think that is?
[00:29:27]  Because the Republican Party is the right hand of the left-wing beast.
[00:29:32]  It's the same beast that has a right hand that has a left hand.
[00:29:35]  I mean, I've been saying this my entire career.
[00:29:39]  I don't know what it's going to take.
[00:29:40]  We are the rhinos.
[00:29:42]  Okay.
[00:29:42]  Let me make that very clear.
[00:29:44]  We are a very small minority view.
[00:29:48]  It's usually like five to 10 members in a Republican majority legislative body.
[00:29:56]  And then there's only one Ron DeSantis.
[00:29:59]  We are the rhinos.
[00:30:00]  I mean, I think we need to forge a new strategy around that premise because that is the reality.
[00:30:08]  You mentioned that we are on the second part of the second half of the Great Reset.
[00:30:12]  What do you mean by that?
[00:30:13]  Sure.
[00:30:13]  I mean, the Ukraine thing crushed me.
[00:30:15]  I almost felt like getting out of this business because I felt like you were saying, we're starting to gain traction.
[00:30:21]  You know, those who bought into all the things, including, you know, pretty long-standing legacy conservatives, some of them, they were coming around and I felt like we're building some momentum.
[00:30:31]  And perhaps we could use that momentum to not just certainly staunch the bleeding and stop COVID fascism, but use that to create this great reawakening to counter the great reset and actually, you know, focus on localism, focusing on changing the party or starting a new one, a new movement, and actually making state legislatures great again, making red states red again, being a bulwark against this global tyranny.
[00:30:59]  But instead, they artfully made sure they had a landing place right at that moment so we couldn't understand what a new normal was and wouldn't go back to relive that.
[00:31:09]  And they had Ukraine and then even more legacy conservatives that bought on to the first half.
[00:31:16]  They dove head in, nothing, all the aforementioned issues with the military being crushed with the mandates and the injury and the pharma fascism.
[00:31:28]  It didn't matter.
[00:31:29]  The border didn't matter.
[00:31:30]  It was all Biden wasn't doing enough for Ukraine.
[00:31:35]  That was the criticism.
[00:31:36]  So, Daniel, I'm not going to say any names.
[00:31:38]  You and I have some good friends.
[00:31:40]  And I think where we first met, if you know what I mean, that were very hawkish on this issue.
[00:31:45]  Why do you think that is?
[00:31:46]  Is this a generational thing?
[00:31:48]  I mean, and I have a lot of respect.
[00:31:49]  You know what I mean?
[00:31:50]  I know a lot of respect.
[00:31:51]  So help me with this.
[00:31:52]  So, you know, look, as Rush used to say, you got to see the stitches on the fastball.
[00:31:58]  And they're not, these guys aren't dumb.
[00:32:00]  They're not going to go and give you the catalyzing great reset events.
[00:32:06]  You know, let's say the BLN, the January 6th, the COVID fascism and now Ukraine.
[00:32:12]  Yeah, right.
[00:32:13]  Exactly.
[00:32:13]  Exactly.
[00:32:14]  It's not going to be something that you could see, wow, like, oh, they're trying to push abortion on me or take away my guns.
[00:32:22]  You know, these guys have an algorithm.
[00:32:24]  I call them the algorithm conservatives.
[00:32:26]  So they know, like back from the 70s and 80s, okay, this is what it means to be a conservative.
[00:32:32]  Okay, it's this issue.
[00:32:33]  And if it tickles the fancy of one of those things, they know about it.
[00:32:36]  But what if I throw something new to you?
[00:32:38]  You know, you never knew about Cytokine Storm, how to treat COVID.
[00:32:41]  What is it?
[00:32:42]  Where did it come from?
[00:32:43]  You know, the science band vaccine, new things that you have to reinvent the wheel on.
[00:32:48]  They don't see it coming.
[00:32:49]  So Ukraine was even worse because not only wasn't it new, but it actually, on a very superficial level, tickled the nostalgia from the 80s with these people.
[00:33:03]  Like, oh man, this is back in the glory days of, you know, us working with Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul against this budding Soviet Union and defending Eastern Europe against them.

=== Defeating The Soviet Union Regime (02:20) ===

[00:33:15]  And I think that's what really sucked them in.
[00:33:18]  And, you know, they're always going to be stronger than the Democrats.
[00:33:21]  We don't want half bank.
[00:33:22]  We want to defeat the Soviet Union.
[00:33:25]  But, you know, like I always say, it's kind of like, you know, well, I want to defeat the Sunni terrorists.
[00:33:29]  Well, but they're fighting.
[00:33:30]  It's like, you know, Charlie, you're a jerk if you don't support Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
[00:33:35]  Yeah, but they're fighting Iran.
[00:33:37]  So it's like, right, because then you're then you're backing Iran.
[00:33:41]  But if you're, but if you side with the Houthis, then you're, you're helping, you know, you know, Al-Qaeda and vice versa.
[00:33:47]  And that's what it is.
[00:33:48]  And then also they didn't realize that, again, the people that didn't fully understand COVID fascism, there's a huge link.
[00:33:55]  It's the same people behind it.
[00:33:57]  The biolabs obviously connect EcoHealth, Metabiota, Hunter Biden, Peter Dasik.
[00:34:03]  It all ties in.
[00:34:05]  Ukraine's not a random place.
[00:34:07]  It is a playground for the Western oligarchs.
[00:34:10]  And finally, finally, and this is what I think really ties in everything you and I are working on on every issue.
[00:34:16]  Yes.
[00:34:16]  They don't understand the following point.
[00:34:21]  Everything we did on foreign policy was predicated on America is a force for good.
[00:34:27]  So of course, we're going to just, you know, go and beat everyone.
[00:34:30]  What if your own government is a bigger problem than all the bad players?
[00:34:36]  And that's what they can't understand that what they have done to us, the bioterror attack on our soldiers, on us, that's a bigger deal than anything Putin has done.
[00:34:48]  And it's something more impactful and more redressable through American public policy.
[00:34:54]  Yeah.
[00:34:54]  So when they say they want to spread American values, like, oh, they want to plan parenthood on every corner and they want, you know, LGBT flags.
[00:35:01]  Like, that's the regime's idea of American values.
[00:35:03]  Daniel Horowitz from Conservative Review Podcast.
[00:35:05]  I'm sorry we don't have more time.
[00:35:07]  Very insightful.
[00:35:08]  And one of the smartest takes on Ukraine and connecting it to COVID that I've heard.
[00:35:12]  So thank you, Daniel, so much.
[00:35:13]  We'll have you on again soon.
[00:35:14]  Looking forward.
[00:35:15]  Take care.
[00:35:15]  Thank you.
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