The Charlie Kirk Show - EXCLUSIVE: Senator Rand Paul Responds to Lindsey Graham Calling for Putin's Asssassination
Aired: 2022-03-04
Duration: 35:26


=== Escalating Conflict in the West (11:06) ===

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[00:01:33]  With us right now is a friend of mine and someone who is a courageous fighter for liberty and very wise and prudent when it comes to foreign policy matters.
[00:01:41]  So, Senator, I want to get right into it.
[00:01:43]  What should be the West's and America's response to the situation in Russia and Ukraine?
[00:01:51]  Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Washington, they all said warm had to be in the precincts of Congress.
[00:01:59]  You had to have a vote of Congress.
[00:02:01]  So I think if we keep that in mind, it sort of keeps us to our basis no matter what the actual events are on the ground.
[00:02:07]  If people want to go to war somewhere in Ukraine or Europe or whatever, there has to be a vote in Congress.
[00:02:12]  That alone helps us to have input from the people and makes it less likely that we go to war.
[00:02:18]  Now, when you look at the individual situation of Russia and Ukraine, I think it's never a good idea to be eager for letting countries invade each other.
[00:02:28]  I do think it's much more of a European problem than our problem, but I have no problem with saying that Putin should be condemned for invading Ukraine.
[00:02:36]  I do think the response to it, though, ultimately depends a lot on Europe and what Europe decides to do.
[00:02:43]  I think Germany has been stronger and Europe has been stronger in coalescing in opposition to this since the invasion.
[00:02:49]  And I think ultimately Putin will see this as a miscalculation.
[00:02:53]  But he's gone in and he's gone in in a big way.
[00:02:56]  But there are a lot of things that I think he has not foreseen.
[00:02:59]  The will of the Ukrainian resistance, the will of Europe's resistance, but also the fact that energy is a two-way street.
[00:03:06]  While the Europeans may think they need Soviet, not Soviet, Russian natural gas and oil, the Russians also need their money.
[00:03:14]  And so it goes both ways.
[00:03:16]  And I think that what you're going to see is that Putin has made himself or will make himself more of an outcast over this.
[00:03:24]  But there are some that are, I think, being reckless with this and saying we should go to war and send troops in there.
[00:03:29]  You know, there was a video that surfaced of John McCain and Lindsey Graham advocating for war and we'll do whatever we can.
[00:03:36]  We have your back.
[00:03:37]  Get started with the war several years ago.
[00:03:40]  So I think we have to realize that war is something that's an awful sort of result and that's not something we should ever be advocating for.
[00:03:50]  And if we keep the Constitution in mind, I think it keeps us out of a lot of war.
[00:03:54]  I totally agree.
[00:03:55]  Unfortunately, a lot of that power is just vested in one individual that is able to supply arms or potentially get us into a nuclear conflict with ever actually going through the Article 1 of the Constitution.
[00:04:05]  So, Senator, Senator Lindsey Graham made headlines the last 24 hours saying outright bluntly that we need to try to encourage and support the assassination of Vladimir Putin, regime change.
[00:04:18]  And more than that, we just need to try to get someone to cut the head off the snake.
[00:04:22]  What is your take on this pretty preposterous proposal?
[00:04:27]  I think it's reckless speech.
[00:04:29]  I think it inflames the situation.
[00:04:31]  I think if you're worried about your adversary being irrational, you know, saying things like you're going to assassinate him would actually make things worse.
[00:04:40]  It's actually against the U.S. law.
[00:04:42]  U.S. law for a long time has been that we don't assassinate civilian leaders of other governments.
[00:04:49]  And so, no, just wrongheaded on every notion.
[00:04:52]  But I think people in elected to office need to realize that their words have consequences and they should actually be careful, you know, with what they say.
[00:05:00]  And this is, I think, careless language that doesn't really have a place in our debate.
[00:05:05]  Yeah, it seems as if it just the West, or at least some of our leaders in our country and in the Republican Party, want to escalate this conflict even further.
[00:05:13]  They're talking about no-fly zones.
[00:05:14]  They're talking about all these different sorts of things.
[00:05:17]  The drums of war are almost in complete and total unison right now when it comes to this conflict.
[00:05:23]  And it's important that the people, you know, in particular, pressure your elected officials in any way you possibly can to try to demand that we want to de-escalate this conflict.
[00:05:34]  And Ukraine is actually incentivized right now to try to get Western forces involved and engaged.
[00:05:39]  Senator, you're actually on the campaign trail right now, doing some very exciting things, trying to challenge some of the warmongers and neoconservatives in the Republican Party.
[00:05:49]  Tell us about it.
[00:05:51]  I am in Salt Lake City as we speak.
[00:05:53]  I'm here campaigning for Mike Lee, who I think is one of the best U.S. senators we have.
[00:05:58]  I'm gazing out at the beautiful mountains and the beautiful terrain around Salt Lake City.
[00:06:03]  But yeah, Mike Lee is one of the good guys.
[00:06:06]  He's one of the best that we have.
[00:06:07]  He's a constitutionalist.
[00:06:09]  He believes in a constitutional and restrained foreign policy as well.
[00:06:13]  And so he and I have a lot in common.
[00:06:15]  And when people ask me, who in the Senate are you most closely aligned with?
[00:06:19]  My response is Mike Lee, because if you look at our voting records, we're very, very similar.
[00:06:24]  And I think he's a very thoughtful, you know, voice, also a voice that knows the Constitution very well.
[00:06:31]  You know, he defended the Constitution as an appellate lawyer, you know, at the highest levels of our judicial proceedings.
[00:06:39]  He really knows the law well.
[00:06:41]  And he's a stickler for reading the bills.
[00:06:43]  You know, it'll be he and I saying, you know, we're not voting for something that we've had one hour to read that's 2,000 pages long.
[00:06:51]  And you'll often see he and I on the Senate floor putting down these 2,000-page bills and showing how enormous they are and saying we got this only moments ago and they expect to vote on it.
[00:07:01]  It's how mistakes in legislation are made, but it's also how the intent of what people tell you is in a bill or what's in the title isn't always within the actual language.
[00:07:11]  So, you know, I hope people will think about Mike Lee, go to his website, see if they can help him because he's one of the better ones and he is making a difference in the U.S. Senate.
[00:07:20]  Now, I hear that you may or may not be going to Wyoming.
[00:07:23]  Is that correct?
[00:07:24]  To challenge a certain individual there?
[00:07:27]  Yeah.
[00:07:28]  I think it's high time that Liz Cheney and her brand of warmongering are dismissed from the Republican Party.
[00:07:35]  Most of the Republicans out in her state have no use for her anymore.
[00:07:39]  She voted for this January 6th Commission, which is not just about going after Trump.
[00:07:44]  It's about going after every private phone call that congressmen or senators made.
[00:07:50]  It's about going after the people who worked in the White House and getting their private conversations.
[00:07:55]  These are things that the Constitution is absolutely opposed to.
[00:07:58]  The Fourth Amendment says you're supposed to have probable cause, and you go to an independent judge, not a bunch of politicians.
[00:08:04]  So you have a bunch of liberal Democrats who hate President Trump, former President Trump.
[00:08:09]  You have a bunch of liberal Democrats on this committee, and then two Republicans who also viscerally hate President Trump.
[00:08:15]  And then they're somehow to be a grand jury to investigate and go after the private communications of other fellow congressmen.
[00:08:23]  I think it's an abomination.
[00:08:25]  This January 6th Commission, the fact that Liz Cheney has been for it.
[00:08:28]  But even before there was a Donald Trump on the scene, the Cheneys were a family that talked about deficits don't matter.
[00:08:35]  They believe in just the glory of war and killing.
[00:08:39]  They never served in the military, but they always believed in the glory of killing, as long as somebody else had to do the fighting, whether it was our kids or who kids.
[00:08:48]  And so I think it's high time we get somebody new.
[00:08:50]  There's a woman running out there, her name is Harriet Hageman.
[00:08:53]  People should go and look her up as far as her campaign website.
[00:08:57]  She's been a constitutional lawyer fighting for property rights for years and years.
[00:09:02]  She belongs to this new civil liberties group on the right that has been fighting against the vaccine mandate.
[00:09:10]  She's the real deal.
[00:09:11]  So it's important that she's not Liz Cheney, number one, but number two, she is a real deal and will be a great asset to us in Washington.
[00:09:20]  And this is not a done deal.
[00:09:21]  Liz Cheney's popularity is virtually zero, but you know, there's rumors that she's trying to get Democrats to vote for in the Republican primary, which could mess up the primary out there.
[00:09:31]  So we have to work hard and make sure we can raise enough money for Harriet Hageman.
[00:09:34]  But I'll be there on Monday.
[00:09:36]  I'll be in Cheyenne, Wyoming on Monday.
[00:09:38]  I love it.
[00:09:39]  So, Senator, I got to ask you an unrelated question, but you're more qualified than anyone else to answer it.
[00:09:43]  Where is Dr. Fauci?
[00:09:45]  He seems as if he's just kind of vanished and disappeared.
[00:09:49]  You know, he's still for the mandates.
[00:09:51]  He's still for centralized planning.
[00:09:54]  He still is a menace to the country.
[00:09:56]  And I can promise you one thing: if we take over in November, I'm going to investigate every piece of paper he's laid his hands on.
[00:10:03]  We're going to find out about the gain of function research in the Wuhan lab in China.
[00:10:07]  We're going to also investigate the cover-up of Fauci and Dr. Collins to try to make sure nobody knew what was going on in that lab.
[00:10:14]  And we're going to get to the bottom of this, not because I have any sort of dislike for him.
[00:10:19]  I have a dislike for what he stands for, but I want to make sure that we never have this happen again.
[00:10:24]  I think they could create a virus in a lab that could destroy our country, that could destroy the world.
[00:10:30]  I mean, it could destroy civilization as we know it.
[00:10:32]  I'm not alone in saying this.
[00:10:33]  Other scientists who are not politicians, who are not partisan, are saying the same thing.
[00:10:38]  So I can promise you this: we are going to get to the bottom of it, but I don't have the power to investigate unless we were to take over the Senate.
[00:10:44]  So it is incredibly important, I think, that we get people in position of power, Mike Lee, myself.
[00:10:51]  We will be chairman of the committee if we can win in November.
[00:10:54]  And we will.
[00:10:55]  And I think it's going to be large in part thanks to what you're doing.
[00:10:58]  Senator, enjoy Utah and have a great time in Wyoming as well.
[00:11:01]  Thank you so much.
[00:11:02]  Talk to you soon.
[00:11:03]  Thanks.

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[00:12:23]  Let's go to Cut 86.
[00:12:24]  Zelensky says that he does not want Ukraine's history to be filled with war, but peace, so he wants the fighting to stop.
[00:12:31]  Play Cut 86.
[00:12:33]  Not want the history of Ukraine as a legend about 300 spartan men.
[00:12:38]  I don't want this.
[00:12:39]  I want peace.
[00:12:41]  I want this peace to be in my country.
[00:12:45]  We're on our land and we're ready to for anything.
[00:12:49]  Cut 79, just to reinforce the alliance between Russia and China.
[00:12:54]  China asked Russia to wait after the Olympics to invade Ukraine, and they agreed.
[00:12:59]  We actually predicted that the Olympics were going to be the centerpiece if an invasion was going to occur.
[00:13:04]  And something I really want to dive into, not this segment, but with Dave McCormick, who is an expert on China.
[00:13:09]  I want to really talk about Taiwan.
[00:13:11]  It interests me to a great extent.
[00:13:13]  But first, let's play Cut 79.
[00:13:15]  European official confirming to Fox News that Beijing asked Moscow to delay its invasion of Ukraine until after the Olympic Games were done and dusted.
[00:13:23]  And Russia apparently said, okay, Beijing now responding.
[00:13:27]  Here it is.
[00:13:27]  Quote, these claims are speculation without any basis and are intended to blame shift and smear China, end quote.
[00:13:34]  And so China and Russia work together in one way or the other on this invasion.
[00:13:40]  That surely shows a recalibration of what would be the world order right now.
[00:13:46]  They say it's a new world order.
[00:13:48]  It doesn't look like that at all.
[00:13:49]  It looks like actually an older world order in more ways than one.
[00:13:52]  Fox News reports in Cut 84, Russian oligarchs are fleeing in their yachts.
[00:13:56]  Play Cut 84.
[00:13:57]  Hi, Bill.
[00:13:58]  So we are seeing an exodus of Russian oligarchs moving their assets and trying to flee by private yacht as officials are trying to track them down.
[00:14:07]  Since we saw the Russian invasion of Ukraine, at least three of these massive yachts are sailing for the Maldives, which currently does not have an extradition agreement with the U.S. Another one is currently in the Seychelles.
[00:14:21]  Another yacht is reportedly sailing to Montenegro as the U.S. and European Union impose sanctions targeting those who are close to the Kremlin.
[00:14:30]  Anthony Blinken, failed rock star, says, don't worry.
[00:14:33]  Hey, our response, we're going to go take the assets in the yachts.
[00:14:35]  What is it with these Russian oligarchs and the fascination with yachts?
[00:14:38]  I don't understand this.
[00:14:39]  Like, really big into yachts.
[00:14:41]  Play Cut 85.
[00:14:43]  We and our allies and partners are launching a task force to identify, track down, and freeze the assets of sanctioned Russian companies and oligarchs.
[00:14:54]  We will freeze and seize their yachts, their private jets, their opulent estates in world capitals.
[00:15:02]  Some of these yachts are $600 million yachts.
[00:15:04]  Is that right?
[00:15:06]  Now, that is going to definitely, let's say, send a message back to Vladimir Putin as soon as these rich guys are going to be without their yachts and without their planes.
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=== China, Cartels, and Terrible Direction (15:48) ===

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[00:16:40]  With us right now is David McCormick, who is running for the United States Senate in Pennsylvania.
[00:16:46]  We had the opportunity to go to Yuma together and see the open border for ourselves.
[00:16:51]  David joins us right now.
[00:16:52]  David, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:16:54]  Hey, thanks, Charlie.
[00:16:55]  Good to be with you.
[00:16:56]  You're doing really well in Pennsylvania.
[00:16:57]  I'm getting messages from people.
[00:16:58]  Let's just start there.
[00:16:59]  Tell us a little about your background.
[00:17:00]  You're running for office in Pennsylvania.
[00:17:02]  The polls are looking really good for you.
[00:17:04]  Yeah, thanks.
[00:17:05]  Well, listen, I don't pay much attention to the polls at this point.
[00:17:07]  It's sort of a day-to-day fight.
[00:17:09]  But I grew up in Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania, deer hunting and playing football and bailing hay and trimming Christmas trees.
[00:17:17]  I had a great, great Pennsylvania upbringing.
[00:17:19]  And then I went to West Point.
[00:17:21]  Wrestling got me to West Point and then the 82nd Airborne Division and then the first Gulf War.
[00:17:25]  Then I came back to Pennsylvania and ran a company and created jobs.
[00:17:29]  And so for me, I think the country's, you know, you and I talked about this when we were together.
[00:17:33]  The country's going in a terrible direction.
[00:17:36]  And the wokeness and the weakness are on the march.
[00:17:40]  And we need people to stand up and fight.
[00:17:42]  And so this is my decision to go and try to go to Washington and fight for the people of Pennsylvania, the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
[00:17:50]  And that, just for our audience's sake, that's the understatement of the century.
[00:17:54]  You ran a very successful business, one of the most successful international businesses, very complex, very high pressure, and you did a great job of it.
[00:18:00]  So I want to ask you, Dave, you and I both saw the southern border for you.
[00:18:04]  I think it was the first time going down there.
[00:18:06]  Just kind of, what was your impression?
[00:18:08]  What from a business perspective, from just the perspective as an American patriot?
[00:18:14]  I mean, just tell us how you processed all of that.
[00:18:17]  Yeah, I mean, Charlie, I've been driving around Pennsylvania and people keep talking about open borders.
[00:18:23]  And it was a big deal to them.
[00:18:25]  And the fentanyl that's coming into our state has doubled in the last 12 months under Joe Biden's open borders policies and the crime in our sanctuary cities of Philadelphia.
[00:18:35]  There's been more than 15 flights in the middle of the night coming into places like Harrisburg and Philadelphia.
[00:18:41]  It's on people's minds.
[00:18:43]  But as much as I expected the border to be really in terrible shape, it was so many times worse what you and I saw than what I expected.
[00:18:52]  It was complete and utter chaos.
[00:18:56]  No notion of government control whatsoever.
[00:19:00]  The Border Patrol, those great public servants are overwhelmed by the terrible policies that you and I saw.
[00:19:08]  We walked.
[00:19:09]  You and I looked at that wall and we both said, whoever says you can get over that wall has never seen the wall.
[00:19:14]  But you look at that wall, it's overwhelming.
[00:19:16]  And you and I went to that spot where the wall ended and there was all of that steel piled up because Biden had stopped it.
[00:19:23]  And then we both saw the contractors still being paid to complete the wall that the Biden administration had put on hold.
[00:19:30]  So it was such a overwhelming experience of recognizing that there is literally no sovereignty.
[00:19:38]  Protection of our sovereign borders is absolutely gone.
[00:19:41]  That people from around the world, Uzbekistan and Russia, are flying into Mexico City, going to Mexicali, and then coming across our border unchecked.
[00:19:50]  And the terrible damage.
[00:19:52]  And then finally, the thing you and I both talked about is the cartels and how the cartels have grown in enormous power and that the fentanyl manufactured in China unchecked is flowing across our border.
[00:20:05]  And it's honestly, I think the threat, even though I knew it was a large threat, the threat to our society, the threat to America that we saw together is beyond anything I might have imagined.
[00:20:16]  Yeah, and that's exactly right.
[00:20:18]  And you and I saw those cars over the ridge that were cartel cars.
[00:20:22]  And there were illegal migrants coming in and out of the cars.
[00:20:26]  And the cartel guys were glassing us with binoculars, looking for the right opportunity to go through.
[00:20:32]  And just for everyone to understand, we went to Yuma, which is in the southwest corner of Arizona.
[00:20:36]  It's like the agricultural breadbasket of almost the entire country.
[00:20:40]  A lot of your lettuce comes from there, very fertile area.
[00:20:44]  And there used to be about 50 illegal border crossings a day while Trump was president.
[00:20:50]  Year later, there's a thousand border crossings a day in Yuma.
[00:20:54]  And Dave, I was really struck when we visited about how there's the gotaways, there's the 400,000 people that don't want to get caught, but it seems as if a lot of people are okay with getting caught.
[00:21:04]  It's like a paper, it's like a paperwork processing operation.
[00:21:08]  That was the thing I didn't fully understand until I saw it.
[00:21:11]  But as you say, they come in, they cross the border, and there's bus stops and they wait and go to the bus stops and then they're processed for asylum.
[00:21:21]  One of the key things that we learned, Charlie, was that they can't have an ID with them that shows they're a citizen in good order in another country.
[00:21:31]  So when we were walking along the border, we saw these piles of ID cards.
[00:21:38]  And they come, they get processed into the system for asylum.
[00:21:42]  They're given court dates and the future to check in.
[00:21:46]  And then they're essentially left wide open.
[00:21:49]  And they can go at their leisure to wherever they're going to go.
[00:21:53]  And of course, what's happening is the cartel, the cartels are then managing their distribution across the country.
[00:22:01]  Most of them have some sort of obligation they have to pay off, sadly, either in the drug trade or prostitution.
[00:22:07]  And that's how we see them in Pennsylvania 24 to 48 hours later.
[00:22:12]  And it's a nationwide challenge.
[00:22:16]  And the numbers are staggering.
[00:22:18]  We also learned that those cartels do this indentured servitude where they're given a loan, somewhere between $6,000 and $20,000, and then they pay off that loan.
[00:22:29]  And of course, they never pay it off.
[00:22:31]  The human suffering is a Christian.
[00:22:33]  Think about the charity, the charitableness of what's going on.
[00:22:37]  The Biden administration, President Biden talked about all the terrible behavior and suffering at the border under the Trump administration.
[00:22:44]  The human suffering now is orders of magnitude beyond anything we might have imagined.
[00:22:50]  That's really well said.
[00:22:51]  And it's important what I want to reemphasize that you said.
[00:22:54]  The cartels will go into these Nicaraguan neighborhoods or these Guatemalan neighborhoods or these Mexican neighborhoods.
[00:23:00]  These people have nothing.
[00:23:01]  And they'll say, hey, sell everything you have and we'll take you up to the border.
[00:23:06]  And it's a form of indentured servitude.
[00:23:09]  And then you get billions of dollars in remittances.
[00:23:11]  It's this entire scheme that is put together.
[00:23:15]  And Dave, basically every single state has now become a border state.
[00:23:19]  No doubt.
[00:23:20]  No doubt about it.
[00:23:21]  It's a top three kitchen table issue in Pennsylvania.
[00:23:24]  As you know, Charlie, Pennsylvania is likely to be the Senate seat that determines whether the Republicans win back the Senate or the Democrats keep it.
[00:23:34]  It's going to be one of the biggest, maybe the biggest Senate race in history.
[00:23:38]  And this issue, this issue of open borders is on the minds of just about every primary voter I meet.
[00:23:45]  It's front of mind for them.
[00:23:47]  And now I know why, because the open borders are truly undermining the safety, security, and health and well-being of the people of Pennsylvania.
[00:23:59]  It's a huge burden that they're experiencing, and they're deeply, deeply frustrated.
[00:24:06]  They feel like they've been sold a bill of goods.
[00:24:08]  They feel like they've been let down.
[00:24:09]  They feel like their leaders aren't hearing them.
[00:24:11]  And they're disgusted with the weak ineptitude of Joe Biden.
[00:24:15]  So I want to shift gears for a second here, Dave, about a topic you've been talking a lot about.
[00:24:18]  You and I had a chance to talk about this while we were visiting the border, which is the issue of China.
[00:24:23]  So we see Putin's invasion of Ukraine, which is reprehensible.
[00:24:26]  And the United States response has been mixed.
[00:24:30]  I don't think troops going into that theater is the right move.
[00:24:33]  However, all eyes really need to be on Taiwan and China.
[00:24:36]  I'm very worried that China is going to use this as an opportunity to go after Taiwan.
[00:24:41]  What should we do right now as Americans?
[00:24:44]  What should we do from a foreign policy perspective to try to prevent that?
[00:24:47]  Should we put an aircraft carrier in the South China Sea?
[00:24:49]  I mean, is that even our fight?
[00:24:51]  Should we even care at all?
[00:24:53]  Yeah.
[00:24:53]  Well, thanks.
[00:24:54]  You know, I think it has to start with why are we in this precarious moment?
[00:24:58]  I agree with what you're describing, absolutely, in terms of Putin's invasion of Ukraine, but also in terms of the likelihood of a more aggressive move on China's part.
[00:25:07]  And the weakness of the Biden administration is inviting thugs and tyrants around the world to test us.
[00:25:12]  And Afghanistan, which I told you, Charlie, is really the thing that got me thinking about running was as a combat veteran watching that debacle happen and the ineptitude, the lack of accountability, the weakness that it projected.
[00:25:25]  And so we're going to be tested.
[00:25:26]  And now is the time that we're being tested.
[00:25:28]  I agree with you 100%.
[00:25:29]  My old unit, the 82nd Airborne Division, has been deployed to Poland.
[00:25:33]  I think we have to take every step to not get our troops engaged in a land or in Europe.
[00:25:39]  Even putting them close to that proximity creates risk.
[00:25:43]  And I also think that if we got somehow dragged into a more extensive engagement in Europe, it would even heighten the likelihood of the Chinese moving.
[00:25:51]  I think two things.
[00:25:52]  One, we need a whole of nation strategy in terms of how we take the fight to China, economically and from a national security perspective.
[00:26:02]  We need to reduce our dependence on China by bringing home key strategic supply chains like semiconductors and pharmaceuticals.
[00:26:10]  Tom Cotton has a good piece of legislation on this.
[00:26:12]  Very good.
[00:26:14]  We absolutely need to hold them accountable for the fentanyl crisis that I mentioned and for the lack of transparency on COVID.
[00:26:22]  I mean, we lost a million lives and trillions of dollars of economic value.
[00:26:25]  We should have reparations.
[00:26:27]  We should probably eliminate sovereign immunity and let the families who lost people in COVID sue the Chinese people, the Chinese government.
[00:26:35]  We should continue the trade policies of President Trump in terms of keeping the steel tariffs in place and making sure whatever trade we do have is fair.
[00:26:43]  And we need to make sure no company or investor is doing anything in China that's going to enable the Chinese military modernization.
[00:26:50]  On Taiwan, my view on this is that we need to exhibit strength.
[00:26:55]  And what I mean by that, I think we need to make sure that Chinese, the Taiwanese rather, are armed to be able to defend themselves.
[00:27:03]  Be very, very generous in terms of military sales to Taiwan.
[00:27:07]  Second, I do think we need to project strength in the South China Sea.
[00:27:11]  And I think we, as President Trump did, need to keep a high degree of uncertainty and not nail ourselves down into how we're going to respond in the event that the Chinese move in Taiwan, but make it very clear that we have the capacity to respond in a wide range of ways.
[00:27:26]  I think what was one of the things Trump did extremely well, in my opinion, was he kept his opponents guessing.
[00:27:32]  And I think we need to keep the Chinese guessing in Taiwan while exhibiting lots of potential to do lots of different things.
[00:27:39]  And also with a series of steps that I described, reducing our dependence on them day by day.
[00:27:44]  It's well said.
[00:27:45]  So Dave, just about a minute remaining.
[00:27:47]  Talk about your website.
[00:27:48]  And I want you to reiterate one thing.
[00:27:50]  We do not get the Senate back if we do not win the Pennsylvania Senate race.
[00:27:53]  It's almost impossible.
[00:27:55]  Yeah.
[00:27:56]  Thank you.
[00:27:56]  It's DaveMcCormickPA.com.
[00:28:00]  It's my website.
[00:28:01]  And I've got my issue paper there and all the things that people can learn about my campaign.
[00:28:06]  I'm running as a battle tested, both in combat and in business.
[00:28:11]  I'm running as a Pennsylvania True.
[00:28:14]  Someone's a seventh generation Pennsylvania, grew up there, have a family farm there.
[00:28:17]  And I'm running as an outsider.
[00:28:19]  I've got no desire to be a senator other than to go to Washington and make change.
[00:28:24]  Winning the seat is not the goal.
[00:28:26]  Winning the seat and making a huge difference and fighting for Pennsylvania is.
[00:28:30]  And it could not be more important.
[00:28:31]  Chuck Schumer is going to throw everything but the kitchen sink at this seat.
[00:28:36]  And we need a strong candidate who can persevere and win.
[00:28:39]  And I'm that guy.
[00:28:40]  Very important.
[00:28:41]  Dave, I really enjoyed our time together in Yuma.
[00:28:43]  I was very impressed.
[00:28:44]  And I think Pennsylvania would be well served by you.
[00:28:47]  And you're doing very well.
[00:28:48]  The polls are speaking.
[00:28:48]  I know you're not talking about the polls, but I'm looking at them.
[00:28:50]  So, Dave, keep fighting hard.
[00:28:52]  And thanks for the great words today.
[00:28:54]  Thank you.
[00:28:54]  Have a great day.
[00:28:55]  Talk to you soon.
[00:28:56]  Thank you.
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[00:30:05]  This Ron DeSantis story will not end.
[00:30:07]  And when we stand 100% with Ron DeSantis, this is all COVID theater.
[00:30:11]  Let's go through a series of tapes here and analyze it together.
[00:30:14]  And then I want to give you a short update on the truckers and some other news happening in the U.S. Senate.
[00:30:19]  Play Cut 78.
[00:30:20]  You do not have to wear those masks.
[00:30:22]  I mean, please take it off.
[00:30:23]  Honestly, it's not doing anything, and we got to stop with this COVID speed.
[00:30:27]  So if you want to wear it, fine, but this is ridiculous.
[00:30:33]  All right.
[00:30:34]  Well, it's good to be a USF.
[00:30:36]  Alpha Maya leader.
[00:30:37]  That's what Ron DeSantis is.
[00:30:38]  He doesn't care.
[00:30:39]  Cut 122, the saga continues.
[00:30:42]  Well, Tucker, none of the adults were wearing masks, and it seemed to me that someone told those kids they had to do it.
[00:30:48]  So I just wanted to make it very clear.
[00:30:50]  They do not need to be doing it.
[00:30:51]  Obviously, in Florida, it's a free state.
[00:30:53]  You can.
[00:30:54]  And I think it needs to be said because people have been lied to for two years.
[00:30:58]  And so I was, I didn't want it to be thinking that like they were told to do this by me because I certainly wouldn't do that.
[00:31:05]  And, you know, they talk about, oh, by letting someone have a choice to take off their mask and welcoming that choice, that that's somehow bullying.

=== Protests Against Vaccine Mandates (04:14) ===

[00:31:12]  Tucker, bullying is locking kids out of school, which they did.
[00:31:16]  Bullying is forcing kids to wear masks for eight hours a day, which they did for two years.
[00:31:22]  Bullying is discharging members of the military because they don't want to take a vaccine.
[00:31:26]  Bullying is segregating unvaccinated kids into separate rooms.
[00:31:30]  But Joe, don't worry, Joe Scarborough from his house in Mount Desert Island, Maine.
[00:31:36]  He's just screaming at the camera, play tape.
[00:31:40]  I mean, serious.
[00:31:41]  No, I'm serious.
[00:31:41]  Was that guy raised in a barn?
[00:31:44]  That's what we say in the South when somebody is a bit.
[00:31:48]  I really do.
[00:31:49]  You know, a guy, Willie, being rude to kids.
[00:31:55]  I mean, seriously, this is a question I asked.
[00:31:58]  Who raised him?
[00:32:00]  Like, who, who, who would want their child to behave that way toward other children?
[00:32:11]  They're not children.
[00:32:12]  They're college kids.
[00:32:14]  These are 18, 19, and 20-year-olds.
[00:32:15]  He was at the University of South Florida, not the second grade preparatory school in Boca Raton.
[00:32:23]  These are legal adults.
[00:32:25]  You want to talk about bullying?
[00:32:26]  How about locking January 6th protesters in solitary confinement?
[00:32:30]  Play cut 119.
[00:32:32]  Beginning Monday, March 7th, we will be suspending the requirements under key to NYC.
[00:32:40]  And so folks can come in and enjoy the restaurants, enjoy the businesses, and be a part of this great city without having to show proof of vaccination.
[00:32:51]  Hey, I can go back to New York.
[00:32:53]  I'm not going to, though.
[00:32:54]  But I could go back to it.
[00:32:57]  I could do it without showing proof of vaccination.
[00:33:00]  I wonder if there was actually a very big business hit.
[00:33:02]  I bet there was.
[00:33:03]  I bet there was a tourist hit that was happening because of all this.
[00:33:06]  And by the way, do you know what I love about the fact that they're revoking all these mandates and stuff?
[00:33:09]  I love how it's showing to the people that said, I must get it or else I'll never be able to do anything.
[00:33:14]  Like, actually, no.
[00:33:17]  You fell for the tyranny and we did not.
[00:33:20]  And I have beautiful natural immunity.
[00:33:23]  And all you had to do was hold out.
[00:33:26]  These people said, well, Charlie, how are you ever going to go to New York?
[00:33:29]  Maybe I won't.
[00:33:30]  Okay, so I didn't go to New York for like nine months.
[00:33:32]  Big deal.
[00:33:33]  I wasn't planning to go to New York anyway.
[00:33:36]  All you had to do was hold out.
[00:33:39]  The trucker convoy is continuing across the country.
[00:33:42]  It's allegedly 70 miles long, which is really hard to believe.
[00:33:46]  It's amazing.
[00:33:48]  And they're protesting against the continued mandates.
[00:33:51]  Now, there is a bill that is being discussed in front of Congress right now, which the Senate is passing to end the COVID national emergency because it would be reckless.
[00:34:04]  But Biden says he'll veto it, even though after the State of the Union, he says that we're back to normal.
[00:34:10]  Remember, if no emergency, then you can't get emergency use authorization.
[00:34:14]  If no emergency use authorization, then no mandatory vaccines.
[00:34:18]  If no vaccines, no vaccine mandates or passports.
[00:34:21]  If no passports, no social credit score.
[00:34:24]  If no social credit score, no great reset.
[00:34:27]  That's why this bill in front of the Senate is so important that if we are able to get rid of the emergency powers that Biden has, we might be able to thwart and choke point the unfolding of events, the bottom line chain reaction that might result in the great reset.
[00:34:46]  No emergency use authorization, no EUA, no vaccine, no social credit score, no great reset.
[00:34:52]  It's already passed the Senate, by the way, it's update.
[00:34:56]  But Biden is saying he's going to veto it, even though he says we're back to normal, but I'm not going to sign a bill that says we're back to normal.
[00:35:02]  Huh.
[00:35:03]  We're going to keep our eyes on that.
[00:35:05]  It's very important.
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