The Charlie Kirk Show - The Curious Case of Senator Ed Durr
Aired: 2021-11-04
Duration: 42:45


=== The Edward Durr Upset (03:53) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody, the curious case of Edward Durr.
[00:00:03]  An incredible story.
[00:00:04]  We talked about this on our show before.
[00:00:06]  Probably the greatest political upset in American history that I can think of.
[00:00:11]  And that's a big statement.
[00:00:12]  I'm sure there are some other ones that were probably similar, but we talk about that story.
[00:00:17]  We talk about how there is a woke fault line within the Democrats and the left.
[00:00:23]  A lot of you are asking, are they going to change strategy?
[00:00:26]  Are they going to adjust after this?
[00:00:28]  That's a very important question.
[00:00:31]  We're going to analyze that and so much more here on the Charlie Kirk show.
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=== Buster Douglas and Boone (03:30) ===

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[00:04:42]  Buster Douglas that name might mean something to you and he was known for one performance at one time that shocked the world.
[00:04:54]  Buster Douglas was one of the, let's say, most incredible sports stories of the last 30 years.
[00:05:05]  A heavy underdog beyond.
[00:05:08]  He's a boxer.
[00:05:11]  Buster Douglas was up against Mike Tyson at a fight in the Tokyo Dome, Mike Dyson versus Buster Douglas.
[00:05:22]  It was a professional boxing match.
[00:05:23]  That happened on february 11th 1990.
[00:05:27]  Buster Douglas was a 42 to 1 underdog going into the fight against the great Mike Tyson.
[00:05:36]  Now, at the time, Mike Tyson was traveling the world.
[00:05:39]  He was the undisputed heavyweight champion.
[00:05:43]  No one would dare ever even cross the line of Mike Tyson.
[00:05:48]  This was almost an exhibition match, but Buster Douglas went all the way out to Tokyo, to the Tokyo Dome, and shocked the world, not just the boxing world.
[00:06:01]  For a man that was so confident he didn't prepare enough.
[00:06:04]  A 42 to 1 underdog, Buster Douglas defeated and beat Mike Tyson.
[00:06:13]  Many of you remember, years ago, Appalachian State from North Carolina, Boom Boone, North Carolina, where Appalachian State walked into the Big House at the University OF Michigan and defeated the Michigan Wolverines in one of the most incredible football upsets in history.
[00:06:40]  They hosted the Appalachian State football team in 2007.
[00:06:46]  The Wolverines were 27 point favorites in the Big House and Appalachian State won.
[00:06:58]  Upsets in sports are things that we all enjoy.
[00:07:03]  They are nail biters of the Cinderella 16 seed in the NCAA tournament going up and beating a one seed, all the way from sports upsets in boxing from Buster Douglas against Mike Tyson to Michigan losing to Appalachian State.

=== Real Politics Over Ads (11:31) ===

[00:07:23]  But what we saw in New Jersey, everybody, is greater than any of the sports upsets we have seen in the last 30 years.
[00:07:31]  The equivalent would not be Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson.
[00:07:36]  The equivalent would be Venus Williams or someone that doesn't even box coming in and beating Mike Tyson at the Tokyo Dome.
[00:07:45]  Now, I'm, of course, talking about our new favorite political story, Edward Durr.
[00:07:51]  We covered Edward Durr briefly yesterday.
[00:07:55]  Edward Durr is far from a political heavyweight.
[00:07:57]  Edward Durr decided to run because he saw New Jersey becoming a socialist, left-wing, cronyist, one-party dominated, unrecognizable state.
[00:08:14]  Edward Durr is from the southern part of New Jersey.
[00:08:18]  Edward Durr did not have political consultants that cut ads for him.
[00:08:21]  Edward Durr did not have big donors writing huge checks.
[00:08:24]  Edward Durr spent $153 on his race.
[00:08:32]  And he wasn't just running up against a random, powerful person in New Jersey.
[00:08:38]  It was up against the New Jersey state Senate president.
[00:08:42]  It was up against the person who runs the New Jersey State Senate president.
[00:08:47]  His name is Steve Sweeney.
[00:08:50]  Now, when asked, Edward Durr basically says, look, I'm just a normal guy.
[00:08:55]  I ran for office because I felt that my state was falling apart.
[00:09:00]  And he had this incredible quote that I want to read for you about how while other people were mocking him and other people were sitting at home doing nothing, he showed up and knocked on doors.
[00:09:15]  Edward Durr was willing to put in the work.
[00:09:20]  Edward Durr is a truck driver.
[00:09:22]  Edward Durr is someone who put in the clipboard and tennis shoes type of work that is so necessary and so missing in American politics.
[00:09:33]  Here's what he said, quote, I walked three to four hours on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays.
[00:09:39]  I walked six to eight hours.
[00:09:41]  We usually had about half a dozen volunteers.
[00:09:44]  I walked six to eight hours.
[00:09:47]  We usually had about half a dozen volunteers.
[00:09:49]  One time we went out and we had 12 to 13 go out with us, he recalled proudly.
[00:09:54]  Trust me, plenty of days I did not feel like walking.
[00:09:57]  It was too hot.
[00:09:59]  My ankles and my feet hurt.
[00:10:00]  I'm not a young man anymore, and I have gout and planter fasilitis, and it was a hard thing.
[00:10:06]  Now, gout is no joke, everybody.
[00:10:10]  And the second most powerful person in New Jersey, Steve Sweeney, unseated by a challenger that would have been considered a joke by the entire New Jersey ruling class.
[00:10:24]  And just like when Buster Douglas shocked the world with his 10th round knockout of Mike Tyson, people don't even know how to process this in New Jersey politics.
[00:10:34]  It is now, this race has been called.
[00:10:36]  Bloomberg.com, New Jersey truck driver ousts Senate boss after spending $153 on race.
[00:10:45]  Play cut 89.
[00:10:46]  Remember when Buster Douglas shocked the world?
[00:10:48]  This is an even bigger deal than that, everybody, because at least Buster Douglas, he was a boxer.
[00:10:54]  This guy is a truck driver who spent $153.
[00:10:59]  Play tape.
[00:11:15]  He may not be every stubborn.
[00:11:17]  It's up to seven.
[00:11:18]  And he, he's not going to make it.
[00:11:20]  Unbelievable.
[00:11:25]  He wants to dump it.
[00:11:30]  Edward Durr is Buster Douglas.
[00:11:33]  The Cinderella impossible, 42 to 1 odds.
[00:11:36]  But I will tell you that Edward Durr is an even greater story than Buster Douglas or Appalachian State or a 16-seat beating a one-seed in the NCAA tournament.
[00:11:51]  This guy's never been in politics before.
[00:11:54]  Edward Durr, while he was walking the district, encountered his opponent.
[00:12:01]  Durr politely challenged him to a debate, and Sweeney blew him off and laughed at him.
[00:12:08]  Well, who's laughing now?
[00:12:11]  We should all love upsets, regardless of your political affiliation, but there's a deeper story at play here when you have a truck driver who just walked the district and put in the type of work that is necessary, doors, conversations, volunteers, not big ads, not social media campaigns, not super PACs funded by multi-billionaires.
[00:12:34]  Instead, it was real politics.
[00:12:37]  It was face-to-face type conversations.
[00:12:39]  And the people of South Jersey, despite being an overwhelmingly Democrat area, they had enough.
[00:12:45]  They had enough with their leaders growing fat and happy in Trenton.
[00:12:49]  They had enough of vaccine mandates and mask mandates.
[00:12:52]  And they were willing to send a vessel in the greatest political upset that I believe I have ever seen in my lifetime.
[00:13:00]  I would like anyone to show me a greater political upset than this.
[00:13:03]  I went through for about an hour last night looking at what's called the greatest political upsets.
[00:13:07]  This is the top of the list.
[00:13:10]  Where in real time, you have the king of the hill, the Senate president, Tony Soprano himself, running the New Jersey State Senate, and he's going to be unemployed.
[00:13:23]  And he lost his job to a God-fearing grandfather of six, father of three, Harley-Davidson writing, Eagles fan, normal American muscular class patriot, Edward Durr.
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[00:13:45]  Look, producer Andrew, he couldn't walk.
[00:13:47]  He was a hobbled individual.
[00:13:49]  He was bedridden in his chair, complaining all the time.
[00:13:53]  And then all of a sudden, we got this call from Relief Factor.
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[00:13:59]  Producer Andrew got it.
[00:14:00]  He took it, got a little bit better, took some more, got a little bit better.
[00:14:04]  Next thing you know, he's doing the Falseberry flop like you wouldn't believe.
[00:14:07]  In fact, he might be training for an Ironman.
[00:14:11]  It's pretty incredible.
[00:14:12]  Now, he says it's thanks to Relief Factor.
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[00:14:43]  Welcome back.
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[00:14:49]  As you start to unpack what happened this week, you start to see that Democrats are reeling for answers.
[00:14:57]  Someone must pay for people like Edward Durr for having a voice.
[00:15:01]  They exist to make sure that white middle-class men that ride Harley-Davidson's are thrown into the oblivion.
[00:15:10]  They must be irrelevant.
[00:15:15]  The fact that people like Edward Durr are winning drives the MSNBC class nuts.
[00:15:24]  So there is an ongoing public discussion that is happening right now in Democrat circles.
[00:15:33]  They say, what's the right way for us to proceed?
[00:15:36]  Well, the smart people on the left are realizing that their party has lost their mind and that they are espousing positions and public policy proposals that are not just unreasonable.
[00:15:52]  They're against the laws of nature themselves.
[00:15:55]  They have declared all-out war on the laws of nature and nature's God, on the preamble of the United States Constitution, on the promise of America, and they're proud of it.
[00:16:07]  So we're going to play cut 88 here.
[00:16:09]  This is James Carville.
[00:16:11]  I want to show you two different universes of the Democrat Party.
[00:16:15]  Now, James Carville, he's an honest guy as far as he is not afraid to speak out when he is seeing his party go in the wrong direction.
[00:16:24]  I believe it was James Carville who said it's the economy stupid.
[00:16:28]  I'm 90% sure that was him who came up with that phrase under Clinton.
[00:16:34]  But James Carville is saying the obvious thing.
[00:16:36]  He's saying, well, don't just look at Virginia and New Jersey.
[00:16:39]  Look at Long Island, look at Buffalo.
[00:16:42]  Democrats are losing everywhere.
[00:16:43]  And he's pinpointing why.
[00:16:46]  Will the Democrats listen to James Carville?
[00:16:48]  Will they embrace him?
[00:16:51]  Play cut 88.
[00:16:53]  But move me wrong.
[00:16:54]  It's just stupid wokeness.
[00:16:56]  All right.
[00:16:57]  Don't just look at Virginia and New Jersey.
[00:16:59]  Look at Long Island.
[00:17:00]  Look at Buffalo.
[00:17:01]  Look at Minneapolis.
[00:17:02]  Even look at Seattle, Washington.
[00:17:04]  I mean, just defund the police lunacy to take Abraham Lincoln's name off of schools.
[00:17:11]  I mean, people see that.
[00:17:13]  And it's just really have a suppressive effect all across the country.
[00:17:19]  The Democrats, some of these people need to go to a woke detox center or something.
[00:17:24]  James Carville was the top Clinton advisor that helped build a moderate Democrat coalition that ended up defeating George H.W. Bush and Ross Perot in 1992 and 96.
[00:17:37]  Well, H.W. Bush didn't run in 96, but defeating incumbent President H.W. Bush and Ross Perot around the, I feel your pain.
[00:17:46]  He was the author and one of the main driving forces behind Bill Clinton proclaiming in front of the United States Congress that the era of big government is over.
[00:17:56]  You see, the 1990s, because of Reagan's profound courage and leadership, created a very conservative country.
[00:18:05]  And since America was such a conservative country at the time, both socially conservative, fiscally conservative, and also enjoying the wealth and the prosperity that came after the 1980s and early 1990s, Bill Clinton had to camouflage himself as a more compassionate, conservative Southern Democrat, which is exactly where the country was.
[00:18:25]  Now, I'm not here to defend Bill Clinton.
[00:18:27]  I think he's a scumbag.
[00:18:28]  He's an awful person.
[00:18:30]  But Bill Clinton also wanted to win, and he knew how to win.
[00:18:33]  And I think Republicans actually didn't really know how to defeat someone like Bill Clinton.
[00:18:37]  I think that they were, they went in the wrong direction a lot of different ways.
[00:18:41]  That's a completely different show for a different time.
[00:18:43]  So listen, you heard what James Carville said.
[00:18:46]  James Carville said that people need to go to a woke deto center.
[00:18:50]  What is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez saying?

=== Internet Privacy Matters Now (03:12) ===

[00:18:54]  Well, let's listen to AOC.
[00:18:56]  Here's what she said.
[00:18:57]  Here's why she said Democrats lost.
[00:19:00]  Play tape.
[00:19:02]  Plus, on the election front, I actually think we have good news as well.
[00:19:05]  I know that Virginia was a huge bummer.
[00:19:08]  And honestly, if anything, I think that the results show the limits of trying to run a fully 100% super moderated campaign that does not excite, speak to, or energize a progressive base.
[00:19:23]  And frankly, we weren't even really invited to contribute on that race.
[00:19:29]  So I do want to applaud Alexandria Kaiser-Cortez.
[00:19:32]  She is not using the word like every other word anymore.
[00:19:36]  I have to say, she's growing up.
[00:19:38]  She's no longer saying, and like socialism, like communism, like open borders, like, yeah.
[00:19:45]  Maybe she knows how many branches of government there are.
[00:19:47]  I don't know.
[00:19:47]  Everyone has a chance to improve in life, and I hope she embraces that.
[00:19:51]  You hear what she said?
[00:19:52]  She said, oh, we ran a moderate in Virginia, and we, AOC, and Talib and Omar, weren't allowed to contribute.
[00:19:59]  Here's what you have, everybody, and we're going to dive into it in great detail.
[00:20:03]  The woke fault line is happening in the Democrat Party.
[00:20:09]  Who's going to win?
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=== Parents Oppose Critical Race Theory (15:16) ===

[00:22:07]  The Democrats are doing an autopsy of why they lost in every possible direction from Edward Durr to the Virginia governor's race to the lieutenant governor's race in Virginia.
[00:22:19]  How bad was it, actually?
[00:22:21]  Well, I just want to hear, let's just go local news report, Cut 87.
[00:22:26]  This is in New York, Nassau County.
[00:22:29]  Play Cut 87, just so you understand what Democrats are dealing with, even in New York.
[00:22:36]  Play tape.
[00:22:37]  The shock resonated from the New York suburbs down the eastern seaboard.
[00:22:41]  People are saying there was a red wave.
[00:22:43]  They're wrong.
[00:22:44]  It was a red tsunami.
[00:22:45]  Republican Bruce Blakeman's declaring victory in the Nassau executive race considered the biggest upset here since Ed Mangano unseated Tom Swasey in 2009.
[00:22:54]  We had the right message.
[00:22:55]  It was taxes.
[00:22:56]  It was crime.
[00:22:58]  People are fed up with the liberal, progressive policies of the other party.
[00:23:02]  This isn't the party of John F. Kennedy anymore.
[00:23:04]  It's the party of AOC and Bernie Sanders, and they're rejecting that.
[00:23:08]  And Joe Biden, they're rejecting that.
[00:23:11]  I said this yesterday to Connor, and I said this to Andrew.
[00:23:14]  I said, if the Democrats continue with this, and if they are unable to inoculate themselves and remove the tumor that is wokeism from their party, it is not out of the conversation that if conservatives do their job and they don't, we're not run by a bunch of feckless morons, which is so often the case, we could end up winning states like New Jersey and Connecticut.
[00:23:38]  We could win 40 out of 50 states.
[00:23:39]  California is a tall order, but it is not out of the equation that in the next 10 years, if these trends continue, that a Republican for president could win one of these states.
[00:23:50]  That's what last night showed, a couple nights ago showed.
[00:23:54]  Is that crime, families, parents, those things transcend team right versus team left jerseys.
[00:24:03]  Now, this is easy for us to understand, obviously, because we see that most parents do not want their seven-year-old, who is white, be taught that he or she is an awful person based on their immutable characteristics.
[00:24:16]  We don't want our eight-year-olds in school to be exposed to pornographic sexual education curriculum.
[00:24:24]  The other side doesn't quite see it that way.
[00:24:27]  There is this ongoing now public tension.
[00:24:31]  We saw it between AOC and James Carville of how do we deal with the woke?
[00:24:38]  How do we deal with this?
[00:24:39]  We know that the flyover people don't like it, but don't you notice now that their indictment of who they hate is expanding?
[00:24:47]  It's not just the people in Missouri and Kansas anymore.
[00:24:50]  Now they hate the dock workers in South Jersey.
[00:24:53]  Now they hate the suburban white women in Loudoun County.
[00:24:58]  Boy, there's a lot of people they don't like.
[00:25:01]  It's the dock workers in South Jersey.
[00:25:04]  It's the garbage men in Trenton.
[00:25:07]  It's the suburban mom in Loudoun County.
[00:25:12]  And then it's also the Christian in South Dakota.
[00:25:17]  It's a lot of different groups to simultaneously be mad at at once.
[00:25:22]  See, we played AOC and James Carville and this kind of tug of war of which way do we want to go as Democrats?
[00:25:31]  Now, I'm going to play out kind of what they're saying, the significance of it, and then I'm going to tell you why it's impossible for them to decouple from wokeism and then the reason why wokeism will win within it.
[00:25:47]  But let's just kind of just show into the drama here.
[00:25:49]  This is an ongoing public and now increasingly nasty debate.
[00:25:56]  This is David Plough, cut 96, where he says that Democrats now need to go on offense on wokeism.
[00:26:05]  The problem in Virginia is that we were too apologetic, that we need to be clear about Herbert Marcuse's one-dimensional man, that we need to be very open about how being on time for work and telling the truth and reading are symptoms of white supremacy.
[00:26:25]  David Plough, who wrote the book Audacity to Win, is saying basically, the reason we lost is that we didn't own our radicalism.
[00:26:38]  Play cut 96.
[00:26:41]  Critical history was a lot.
[00:26:43]  And I think we need to go on the offense a little bit.
[00:26:44]  And Terry McCall have tried to do this.
[00:26:46]  Say it's a lie.
[00:26:47]  They know it's a lie.
[00:26:48]  But are you scared for your kids to learn about slavery or lynching or housing discrimination?
[00:26:54]  Are we raising kids to be that weak?
[00:26:57]  Like, I think sometimes we answer with facts that we don't believe people will believe these things.
[00:27:02]  But they're not going to campaign on the level, Nicole.
[00:27:05]  They're going to lie.
[00:27:06]  They will say anything.
[00:27:08]  If this is a boxing match, they're bringing heavier gloves and nice in your boots.
[00:27:12]  He's saying it's a lie.
[00:27:13]  It doesn't exist.
[00:27:14]  Now, last night we were at the University of Alabama.
[00:27:17]  We are going to play this tape on our social media feed where a black woman said exactly the same thing.
[00:27:22]  What even is CRT?
[00:27:23]  You don't want to have people learn how to deal with other races.
[00:27:25]  And I asked her directly, I said, do you believe in black-only dormitories?
[00:27:29]  She said, yeah, I would live in a black-only dormitory.
[00:27:31]  I said, do you believe in black-only graduation ceremonies like they have at Columbia?
[00:27:35]  By the way, she'd never even heard they existed before.
[00:27:38]  And I said, is segregation evil?
[00:27:39]  She didn't answer the question.
[00:27:42]  That's what CRT is, David Pluff.
[00:27:44]  That's why parents are getting angry and upset.
[00:27:47]  But when David Pluff says, oh, it doesn't exist.
[00:27:49]  It's not real.
[00:27:50]  Here's a science teacher in Indiana saying, I'm an administrator for the largest school district in Indiana.
[00:27:57]  Here's what we mean when we tell you we aren't teaching critical race theory.
[00:28:01]  Everybody, I hope you listen to this very carefully.
[00:28:04]  We are going to post this at charliekirk.com.
[00:28:07]  Send this to all of your friends because your school boards are lying to you.
[00:28:12]  PlayCut 84.
[00:28:14]  I'm the science coach and admin in the largest public school district in Indiana.
[00:28:17]  I'm in dozens of classrooms a week, so I see exactly what we're teaching our students.
[00:28:21]  When we tell you that schools aren't teaching critical race theory, that it's nowhere in our standards, that's misdirection.
[00:28:27]  We don't have the quotes and theories as state standards per se.
[00:28:30]  We do have critical race theory in how we teach.
[00:28:33]  We tell our teachers to treat students differently based on color.
[00:28:36]  We tell our students that every problem is a result of white men and that everything Western civilization built is racist.
[00:28:42]  Capitalism as a tool of white supremacy.
[00:28:45]  Those are straight out of Kimberly Crenshaw's main points, verbatim in critical race theory, the writings that formed the movement.
[00:28:51]  And I encourage everyone to go read Kimberly Crenshaw's book, Critical Race Theory.
[00:28:54]  It's literally called that.
[00:28:55]  And yet now the new smokescreen tactics from the people in charge is like, it doesn't exist.
[00:28:59]  It's a lie.
[00:29:03]  Hey, everybody.
[00:29:04]  As I have told you, James Lindsay deserves such amazing credit for the work he has done for exposing critical race theory.
[00:29:10]  Now, maybe you're super busy and you don't have time to learn about critical race theory, but that is why on Thursdays we bring you Thinker Thursday.
[00:29:18]  T-H-I-N-K-R.org is the place for you to be able to get big ideas and consume them quickly.
[00:29:27]  Thinker.org slash Charlie, you can consume in 12 minutes the essence of James Lindsay's famous book, Cynical Theories.
[00:29:35]  Cynical Theories, How Activist Scholarship Made Everything About Race, Gender, and Identity and Ideology, and Why This Harms Everybody.
[00:29:42]  What does our new woke language mean?
[00:29:44]  Where does it come from?
[00:29:45]  Why is it so harmful to actual progress in the realm of social justice?
[00:29:49]  The social justice movement that dominates the thinking of contemporary society didn't always exist.
[00:29:54]  Rather, it originated in the 1960s French academia through an intellectual movement called postmodernism, a way of thinking about reality that disregards objective truth and meaning.
[00:30:02]  Later, in the 1980s and 90s, postmodern thought produced critical theory, which supplies the current social justice movement with the majority of its ideas.
[00:30:09]  Liberal thinkers, Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay, illustrate the rise of social justice movements in culture and the academy.
[00:30:16]  Here's some key insights you'll get from the book, that postmodernism's radical skepticism denies our ability to know anything.
[00:30:22]  Culture creates truth.
[00:30:23]  They believe that postmodernism or the left needed to change, so it decided the world needed to change too, with the help of some abstract theory.
[00:30:31]  Critical race theory unravels discourse to prove that language creates identity.
[00:30:36]  Identity determines the capacity for power and knowledge, but identity politics wants to turn that on its head.
[00:30:42]  You can't prove social justice scholarship, but you can't argue with it either.
[00:30:45]  And at the core of liberalism is the desire to question, empathize, and repair.
[00:30:50]  But however, cynical theories wants to destroy all of that.
[00:30:53]  Go to thinker.org slash Charlie, T-H-I-N-K-R.org slash Charlie.
[00:30:58]  Check it out, everybody, right now.
[00:31:02]  Play cut 85, this administrator, super smart guy, by the way.
[00:31:06]  I'd love to have him on our show, Tony Kinnett.
[00:31:09]  He continues by saying, parents, you are being played.
[00:31:13]  You are being conned.
[00:31:14]  You are being manipulated.
[00:31:16]  You are being misdirected.
[00:31:18]  You are being gaslit by administrators on school boards.
[00:31:22]  Play tape.
[00:31:23]  When schools tell you that we aren't teaching critical race theory, it means one thing.
[00:31:27]  Go away and look into our affairs no further.
[00:31:30]  It isn't about transparency.
[00:31:31]  It isn't about cultural relevance.
[00:31:33]  It's race essentialism, painted to look like the district cares about students of color.
[00:31:37]  We call it anti-racism.
[00:31:38]  So you feel bad if you disagree with our segregationist pedagogy.
[00:31:42]  It's taking advantage of kids' vulnerability and parents' inactivity to preen over social snake oil schemes designed to create division.
[00:31:49]  Parents, when we tell you critical race theory isn't taught in our schools, we're lying.
[00:31:54]  Keep looking.
[00:31:55]  They're lying.
[00:31:56]  Keep looking.
[00:31:56]  Now, David Plough, who was the architect of the Obama coalition, says it's not real.
[00:32:04]  Nicole Wallace said the same thing on television, Cut 51.
[00:32:09]  Remember, ignorance is knowledge.
[00:32:12]  War is peace.
[00:32:14]  We're all living in 84.
[00:32:16]  Play tape.
[00:32:17]  I mean, he worshipped at the altar of Donald Trump on Fox News.
[00:32:20]  He flew an insurrection flag at his rallies.
[00:32:23]  He simply didn't, he played dumb about a Zoom rally.
[00:32:28]  He did not really put much distance between himself and Donald Trump on the big lie or the deadly insurrection.
[00:32:35]  Critical race theory, which isn't real, turned the suburbs 15 points to the Trump insurrection endorsed Republican.
[00:32:46]  What do Democrats do about that?
[00:32:49]  War is peace.
[00:32:50]  Freedom is slavery.
[00:32:51]  Ignorance is strength, as Orwell said very eloquently in 1984.
[00:32:56]  You know what's so amazing about that tape is you have a former U.S. Senator Claire McCaskill from Missouri that just allows this nonsense and this drivel.
[00:33:04]  Went from CRT being just a legal theory that it's not to our kids, not being taught to our kids, that it doesn't exist.
[00:33:10]  No, there's no books that are called critical race theory.
[00:33:12]  Well, what about Kimberly Crenshaw's book?
[00:33:13]  It doesn't exist.
[00:33:14]  Okay, it doesn't exist.
[00:33:15]  Hello.
[00:33:16]  It doesn't exist.
[00:33:18]  There's a book that says critical race theory.
[00:33:22]  And so the Democrats are trying to square and trying to get clarity on how do they proceed.
[00:33:32]  Now, the smart Democrats like Carville say, we have got to get away from this.
[00:33:36]  Cut 95, you have Obama world a little bit divided here.
[00:33:40]  You have David Plough who just wants to go all in on the woke.
[00:33:44]  He wants to be the grand marshal of the crazy train parade.
[00:33:49]  David Plough wants to just ride in on the BLM flag, and he thinks that's the way.
[00:33:55]  But Stephanie Cutter, being, I think she's a mom, she says, well, look, the one thing we need to make sure of is that the Republican Party doesn't become the party of parents.
[00:34:04]  Now, I want to thank Stephanie Cutter.
[00:34:07]  The term party of parents, that has a nice ring to it.
[00:34:11]  I like it.
[00:34:12]  And if the Republican Party was smart, they'd be tweeting that out, not that you have to be scared of socialism.
[00:34:19]  Ridiculous messaging.
[00:34:21]  Play Cut 95.
[00:34:22]  And the one thing that we need to make sure that Republicans in 2022 don't become is the party of parents, because we need to be the party of parents.
[00:34:33]  And we are.
[00:34:34]  You know, all of this, we need to own that agenda.
[00:34:37]  We cannot let it go.
[00:34:38]  We need to own that agenda.
[00:34:40]  Ah, Stephanie Cutter is smart.
[00:34:42]  She's smarter than David Plough.
[00:34:44]  David Plough is bought and paid for, and he's lost his shine.
[00:34:48]  Stephanie Cutter, just her remark, I mean, the part where she says we're the party of parents is obviously ridiculous, but she says, we are, we can't let this happen.
[00:34:57]  This is a problem that parents are leaving us.
[00:35:03]  The Republican Party does become the party of parents.
[00:35:07]  It changes American politics in 40 out of 50 states.
[00:35:11]  Cut 82, they're already playing defense.
[00:35:14]  Jaya Paul says, no, no, no, we're the parents' party.
[00:35:17]  We are.
[00:35:18]  We want to chemically castrate your children and vaccinate against their will and keep them masked all the time.
[00:35:23]  Democrats are seeing what we are seeing, which is a recalibration of American politics in real time.
[00:35:30]  Party of parents.
[00:35:32]  PlayCut 82.
[00:35:33]  You know, look, we have to pay attention to local politics.
[00:35:37]  And I think that Democrats are the party of parents, not Republicans.
[00:35:42]  But I really believe that this is what happens in many elections when you have one party take over three and off your elections.
[00:35:50]  This is not abnormal.
[00:35:51]  And I think that we will get through the next, you know, this doesn't mean anything for the midterms.
[00:35:58]  That's not to say we shouldn't take it seriously.
[00:36:00]  We absolutely should.
[00:36:01]  Democrats can't have it both ways.
[00:36:03]  They can't be the party of sexual anarchy and also be the party of parents.
[00:36:07]  It doesn't work.
[00:36:09]  You got to pick a team.
[00:36:10]  Be the party of sexual anarchy or be the party of parents because parents are worried the country's falling apart.
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=== Protect Your Home Title (04:17) ===

[00:37:23]  The woke lash that we experienced this week is being interpreted by different camps in the Democrat Party.
[00:37:32]  The Democrat Party's not really sure how to proceed.
[00:37:36]  So on one side, you say we were not radical enough.
[00:37:40]  That's Elon Omar, AOC.
[00:37:42]  They say we didn't do CRT enough.
[00:37:44]  David Plough.
[00:37:45]  We have Stephanie Cutter, James Carville, who came out and said that we need a woke detox.
[00:37:51]  Well, let me tell you, let me just kind of end the suspense for you, if you will.
[00:37:57]  That Democrats made a decision right as Floyda Palooza was beginning in last June.
[00:38:06]  As Floyda Palooza was happening and we had $3 billion in damages across the country, Wendy's on fire, police officers getting shot.
[00:38:15]  Democrats saw a kinetic political energy that they wanted to seize for their own Machiavellian short-term power goals.
[00:38:27]  They didn't care about the cost.
[00:38:29]  They made an all-in bet on the racial argument that this was going to be as significant, as powerful, as persuasive, and as permanent as the sudden shift on gay marriage in America.
[00:38:48]  The Democrat consultants, the corporate hacks, they all said, okay, the same way that Americans' attitudes on gay marriage changed dramatically in almost five years, that is going to be the case with race.
[00:39:04]  That we are going to be, we have to be ahead of this thing, and we want to be the party of woke.
[00:39:10]  Now, Republicans and conservatives, to their credit, despite some U.S. senators saying that they liked BLM during all this stuff, we excommunicated wokeism from our circles.
[00:39:23]  In fact, with great intensity, backlash, and condemnation, any conservative leader that wrote some sort of pandering op-ed after George Floyd's death was met with total and complete repudiation from think tank leaders to pundits to people in communication.
[00:39:43]  It says, okay, if you want to be woke, you got to go to the left.
[00:39:47]  We pushed it out.
[00:39:48]  Now, that wasn't an easy conversation.
[00:39:49]  You remember back in May, June, July, and August of last year, the overtures of people said, well, we just have to, we have to have a little bit of wokeism.
[00:39:58]  We said, no, you take a little bit of it.
[00:40:01]  You give them an inch.
[00:40:03]  They take a mile.
[00:40:04]  It is the metaphorical camel's nose in the tent, and it is over.
[00:40:09]  And so the conservative movement took a hard stance.
[00:40:13]  And James Lindsay deserves a lot of credit for that because the intellectual and philosophical foundation that laid the backing for us to push back against this, that was necessary.
[00:40:24]  It was powerful.
[00:40:25]  But the Democrats and the left made a totally different decision.
[00:40:28]  They made a different political calculus.
[00:40:30]  They said, this stuff is going to be inevitable.
[00:40:32]  This stuff is powerful.
[00:40:33]  It is potent.
[00:40:34]  It gets our activists in the streets.
[00:40:36]  It makes white liberals write us big checks.
[00:40:37]  It makes corporations pander to us endlessly.
[00:40:41]  And they said to Robin D'Angelo, to Kimberly Crenshaw, to Patrice Cullers, to Ibram X. Kendi, you said, you guys are now the grand marshals of the parade.
[00:40:52]  We will become the party of the woke.
[00:40:55]  Now, once you make that decision, everybody, all bets are off.
[00:40:59]  There is no science, math, reason, hierarchy, meritocracy.
[00:41:04]  There are no rules, freedom of speech, dialogue, fruits of the Enlightenment.
[00:41:08]  No, you are back in tribalism.
[00:41:10]  It's that simple.
[00:41:12]  Wokeism is like steroids.
[00:41:14]  Steroids can make you, it can make you kind of big, but you lose something when you take steroids.
[00:41:21]  Some things might get pretty small.
[00:41:24]  Steroids feel good at first.
[00:41:26]  Yeah, I'm going to get big.
[00:41:28]  And there's lifelong costs and consequences to them.
[00:41:31]  The Democrat Party took a steady stream of woke steroids, and now they're realizing, oh, there's some missing ingredients here.

=== No Decoupling From Wokeism (01:03) ===

[00:41:41]  This had a cost that we never anticipated.
[00:41:44]  And some people say, oh, we have to have a woke detox.
[00:41:46]  That's not the way it works, Mr. Carville.
[00:41:48]  Once you allow the ethos of wokeism within your entire institution and you play by the rules of white allies and black voices matter, and whoever the most oppressed person is who wins the oppression Olympics gets the highest platform, you're done.
[00:42:05]  And for the Democrat Party, there is no getting rid of wokeism.
[00:42:09]  Wokeism is your party.
[00:42:11]  Diversity, equity, inclusion, you are the party of black only dormitories.
[00:42:15]  The Democrat Party is the party of segregated dormitories and segregated graduation ceremonies.
[00:42:21]  There is no decoupling from it.
[00:42:23]  Enjoy.
[00:42:27]  Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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[00:42:37]  God bless.
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