The Charlie Kirk Show - Atheism On the Rise and How to Stop It Aired: 2021-03-22 Duration: 47:19 [00:00:00] Hey everybody, here's a speech I gave in Albuquerque about atheism being the fastest growing religion in America. [00:00:05] If you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support and email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com. [00:00:12] Make sure you come and see us in person, tpusa.com/slash genfree. [00:00:16] We are going to Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, Nashville with Candace Owens, Vegas, and San Jose. [00:00:20] We want to see you there. [00:00:21] Space is running thin. [00:00:23] tpusa.com/slash genfree. [00:00:25] Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com. [00:00:28] Buckle up, everybody. [00:00:29] Here we go. [00:00:31] Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. [00:00:32] Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. [00:00:34] I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. [00:00:38] Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. [00:00:41] I want to thank Charlie. [00:00:42] He's an incredible guy. [00:00:43] His spirit, his love of this country. [00:00:45] He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created. [00:00:50] Turning point USA. [00:00:52] We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. [00:01:00] That's why we are here. [00:01:03] Look, we all know that conservatives are getting kicked off of social media. [00:01:07] So why are we choosing to give all these tech companies all of our data? [00:01:11] Now is the time to take a stand. [00:01:13] Protect your personal data from big tech with the VPN I trust for my online protection, ExpressVPN. [00:01:19] You see, every device, whether you're on your phone, laptop, or television, has a unique string of numbers called an IP address. [00:01:24] When you search for stuff, watch videos, or even click a link, big tech companies can use that IP address to track all your activity and tie it back to you. [00:01:31] When I use ExpressVPN, my connection gets rerouted through their secure encrypted servers, so these companies can never see my IP address at all. [00:01:39] My internet activity becomes anonymized, and my network data is encrypted. [00:01:43] And the best part is you don't need to be tech savvy at all to use ExpressVPN. [00:01:46] Just download the app on your phone or computer, tap one button, and you're protected. [00:01:51] Protect your internet activity with the VPN I use every single day. [00:01:54] Visit expressvpn.com to get three extra months on a one-year package. [00:01:58] That's expressvpn.com/slash Charlie to get three extra months free. [00:02:04] Expressvpn.com/slash Charlie. [00:02:09] Would you please help me welcome Charlie Kirk to Legacy Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico? [00:02:15] Thank you. [00:02:16] Thank you guys. [00:02:17] See our Turning Point USA students here. [00:02:20] How are you guys doing? [00:02:21] It is great to be with you. [00:02:22] Now, I was warned about this service. [00:02:24] I'm told this is the highest energy service. [00:02:26] So could be. [00:02:29] You know, we've had some fun. [00:02:30] And the cool thing is, some of you might say, oh, I've heard this before. [00:02:34] I really do my best to try when I speak multiple times throughout a weekend to make every speech a little bit different and a lot different in certain ways. [00:02:43] But there are things I'm going to repeat because repetition is the soul of memory. [00:02:47] And there's some things we must commit to memory. [00:02:49] The first of which, how great is it to be in person with each other in a church? [00:02:58] You have a great pastor here and a great leader here. [00:03:02] Steve is passing the test of what it means to be a courageous Christian in a time of crisis. [00:03:11] If you're like me, you've been looking around the landscape and we have seen so many Christians and pastors in a passive position right now. [00:03:21] They have been slow to open, if at all, slow to challenge tyranny. [00:03:26] We're going to talk a lot about tyranny and what it means. [00:03:29] And what I've seen from afar, and this is why I saw Steve at a conference about a month ago, and he said, I know you're scheduled to come here in July, which I will be back in July. [00:03:39] And Steve said, I want to know if you can come here quicker. [00:03:45] And I said, absolutely. [00:03:47] So I sent the first available date that I had. [00:03:49] I said, I'll fly out to Albuquerque. [00:03:50] We'll have a lot of fun. [00:03:51] And that's why I'm here. [00:03:52] I'm here for a couple of reasons. [00:03:53] First of all, I want to give whatever voice God has given me and given turning point behind courageous people because courage is so rare. [00:04:02] And Steve Smotherman and the whole team around him, by the way, what an unbelievable staff. [00:04:06] And your church deserves to be supported right now, truly. [00:04:12] Moral courage is lacking right now in America. [00:04:16] And there's the protesters out there. [00:04:18] Do you notice how angry they are? [00:04:20] I thought they're in charge of everything. [00:04:22] They control the Senate, the House, the presidency, yet they're angrier than we are. [00:04:26] It's really amazing. [00:04:27] We'll get into there's actually a biblical reason for that. [00:04:30] But I could tell you from traveling the country and seeing how different churches have handled different circumstances, some people have totally failed the test. [00:04:41] Your pastor has passed the test. [00:04:42] But what is the test? [00:04:44] What is that test? [00:04:45] Well, the Bible speaks clearly about that. [00:04:48] You see, in Matthew and then in James and all throughout the New Testament, it talks about the promise of persecution. [00:04:57] So we don't talk about that a lot. [00:04:59] A lot of churches, they do the promise of eternal life, which we do. [00:05:03] We are promised that. [00:05:05] The promise of coming in a relationship with our Creator through Jesus. [00:05:10] But Jesus also talks about the promise of persecution. [00:05:13] It's not even a question. [00:05:15] It's not like this might happen. [00:05:18] If it happens, here's a how-to manual. [00:05:20] And do you know what we're supposed to do when we're persecuted? [00:05:24] We're supposed to celebrate. [00:05:25] We're also supposed to say, this is evidence that we're doing the right thing. [00:05:31] So when we have protesters outside, the public health officials, the governor coming after us, this is confirmation that we are right where God wants us. [00:05:46] And I have a rule. [00:05:48] If you are in the culture, if you are getting all the nice articles written in the New York Times, if you're getting all the A-list celebrities to say nice things about you, you're probably not doing something right in the church. [00:06:04] So I want to talk about this, and I didn't zero in on this in the previous services, but what is a church? [00:06:11] It's such a simple question, isn't it? [00:06:13] But an unbelievably complicated answer. [00:06:16] Is a church a TED Talk with a rock concert? [00:06:20] That's kind of what it feels like in most churches, right? [00:06:23] I'm going to give you five points on how to improve your life. [00:06:26] A lot of lights and music. [00:06:27] By the way, your worship here is incredible. [00:06:29] Your worship team is, and I don't say that lightly because I've been to a couple churches where it's like, whoa. [00:06:37] God bless you. [00:06:40] Intent did not materialize into the result, but God looks at the heart, so God bless them. [00:06:45] No, I mean that. [00:06:46] You guys have wonderful heart and amazing fruit. [00:06:48] I really mean that. [00:06:49] The music here is spectacular. [00:06:50] But is that what the church is? [00:06:52] It's a TED Talk with the rock concert? [00:06:56] Is the church about making you feel good? [00:07:01] Is that what a church is? [00:07:03] It's such a simple question, but in some ways, we can't answer it. [00:07:08] So let's go back to what the Bible says. [00:07:10] Jesus at Caesarea Philippi famously said, who do you say I am? [00:07:16] Later on, he asks, and he commands, on this rock, build my, and we use the English word for church. [00:07:23] It's not that simple. [00:07:25] So when Tyndale translated the Bible from Greek to English, everything changed. [00:07:33] So prior to that, the Bible was in Latin. [00:07:36] And I know that there's a lot of Catholic brothers and sisters here, and this is by no means a slight at the Catholic Church. [00:07:43] Some of my dearest friends are Catholic. [00:07:45] My mother was raised Catholic. [00:07:46] My grandmother was the most Catholic person, I think, in North America. [00:07:50] Seriously, it was EWTN. [00:07:53] It was mass every day, and she was a phenomenal person. [00:07:57] And I know that she accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior. [00:08:00] I know there's a lot of Catholics in this area too. [00:08:03] And so I'm not going to get into the theological differences here, but I am going to pinpoint one thing that I think the Catholic Church was incorrect on theologically. [00:08:12] So the Catholic Church said the church is centered in Rome. [00:08:16] One leader, one hierarchy. [00:08:18] You must go through our infrastructure to get to the Creator. [00:08:23] I think that's a fair way to describe especially how it worked in the 14th and 1500s. [00:08:29] Tyndale changed everything. [00:08:30] This guy was a rabble-rouser. [00:08:32] It's like, yeah, what did the scriptures actually say? [00:08:36] Because, you know, Latin was not well, was what, not widespread. [00:08:40] Less than half of 1% of the population of Europe actually spoke Latin. [00:08:46] So you had a bunch of people that were unable to access the scriptures, the perfect word of God. [00:08:52] And so he wanted to democratize the Bible. [00:08:54] He wanted more people to read the Bible. [00:08:56] So he went and he did the very difficult scholarly work to translate the Bible from Greek, of which most of the scriptures are written, into English. [00:09:06] Now, we all speak English. [00:09:07] You're hearing me in English. [00:09:09] English was the language of the peasants. [00:09:11] It's the language of the common man. [00:09:13] Most people who spoke English in the Scottish Highlands, which are originally my people and our people, that's why we always love a good fight. [00:09:24] English was not a respected language. [00:09:25] So Tyndale goes in and he says, Whoa. [00:09:28] Jesus didn't say church to fill our word. [00:09:32] It was a Greek word called ecclesia. [00:09:35] What is that? [00:09:37] So ecclesia was actually something very, very specific. [00:09:40] Jesus said, on this rock, build my ecclesia. [00:09:43] So if you do a little bit of research on what that is, what is a church? [00:09:46] An ecclesia, the word that our scriptures tell us that Christ used. [00:09:50] He spoke Aramaic, it was translated to Greek, the best fit word. [00:09:53] It was not synagogue. [00:09:55] It's not temple. [00:09:57] He said it was this word ecclesia. [00:09:58] Ecclesia was a political gathering in ancient Greece. [00:10:02] And ecclesia was a place where citizens came and fasted and prayed, unified, and met about the welfare of the town and the city that they were in to try and strive for two words. [00:10:13] The more Greek that I learned, which is very little, the more I have appreciation for how brilliant our founders were for incorporating these words and what they meant and how foolish our current leaders are. [00:10:25] I really mean that. [00:10:26] And so around two words, ellautharia and isonomia, freedom and equality. [00:10:33] So Jesus said, on this rock, go build my ecclesia. [00:10:38] On this rock, go have a gathering of people that care about the welfare of the city that they're in, that is active, that is engaged, that is aware, that is loving, compassionate, but also that is taking terrain. [00:10:52] You see, in American Christianity, we have this false belief of compartmentalized Christianity. [00:10:59] Like our influence stops right here at the wall. [00:11:02] You know, at the walls, we can't really do too much. [00:11:04] Government is for other people. [00:11:06] We're just going to save people and then our responsibility stops. [00:11:09] That is not what Jesus said. [00:11:11] Jesus wanted comprehensive Christianity. [00:11:14] He wanted to send people in all spheres of influence, in media, and pop culture and arts, and yes, government, politics. [00:11:21] And yet we have been hypnotized in the broader American church where they say, we only talk about the gospel. [00:11:28] Well, so do we. [00:11:29] It's the good news. [00:11:30] The gospel is really simple. [00:11:32] God created you. [00:11:34] We rebelled. [00:11:35] We're broken. [00:11:36] We need Jesus. [00:11:37] We accept him. [00:11:38] We get eternal life. [00:11:39] Creation, fall, redemption, recreation. [00:11:42] It's pretty simple. [00:11:44] And yet, the good news needs to be spread in every single sphere of influence. [00:11:49] What's preventing that? [00:11:51] In the last 100 years, secular ideas have been more successful than Christian ideas. [00:12:00] It's very difficult to say and admit. [00:12:03] Secular activists are more evangelistic than most Christians. [00:12:12] It's tough to hear that, right? [00:12:14] It's true. [00:12:15] Atheism is the fastest growing religion in America, and atheism is a religion. [00:12:20] Atheism is a declaration that there is no God. [00:12:24] Now, there might be some atheists here. [00:12:26] God bless you for being here. [00:12:28] Get it? [00:12:30] I have a couple of comments on atheism. [00:12:32] And I mean this. [00:12:33] First of all, without God, there would be no atheists. [00:12:45] Secondly, I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. [00:12:48] My good friend Turek talks about this often. [00:12:50] He has a whole podcast around it. [00:12:52] I think it takes more faith to believe that everything we're living through is an act of randomness. [00:12:56] The more you study science and actual science, not the stuff that Dr. Anthony Fauci, who by the way, should be fired immediately. [00:13:05] Immediately. [00:13:08] Talks about. [00:13:10] Or your governor, and yes, I will get to her in a second. [00:13:14] I will. [00:13:15] I promise. [00:13:16] That's the only through line of every one of my speeches. [00:13:19] It's the tyrant running the state. [00:13:21] It's true. [00:13:23] Because her tyranny is worth challenging. [00:13:26] The more you study science, the more that you go into the inquiry of the natural world, the more you realize that there were laws that were set up called natural laws. [00:13:36] Where is natural laws mentioned? [00:13:38] In the Declaration of Independence. [00:13:39] Our founders knew this, the laws of nature and nature is God. [00:13:41] They knew that God set up nature in a certain way. [00:13:44] For example, the laws of gravity, the second law of thermodynamics, the inevitable law of decay. [00:13:48] Force equals mass times acceleration. [00:13:51] An object of rest will stay at rest. [00:13:52] Equal and opposite reaction. [00:13:54] We know those as Newtonian physics. [00:13:58] God set up those parameters. [00:14:00] And the Bible is consistent with the laws of nature. [00:14:03] The more that we go to discover the scientific world, the complexity of DNA, the more that we map the human genome, the more honest scientists are blown away by the splendor and the wonder that only an omniscient, omnipotent creator could have put that together. [00:14:21] Only. [00:14:23] If you believe that this was just a roll of dice, basically the right combination at the craps table, you have infinitely more faith than we Christians do. [00:14:34] Infinitely. [00:14:36] And I mean that. [00:14:36] That gap of faith where now science tells us the universe had a start, that there was a moment when it began. [00:14:45] Well, therefore, using Aristotelian logic, if something started, there must be a starter. [00:14:53] And that starter, we call the creator or God. [00:14:55] Therefore, I believe that, and I mean this lovingly to atheists that watch, and we have a lot of atheists that support our podcast, and I think that there are a lot of honest atheists. [00:15:02] My one piece of advice is call yourself an agnostic, not an atheist. [00:15:06] An atheist is you screaming up to the heavens saying you're not there. [00:15:11] An agnostic comes from the Greek word agnosis without knowledge, says, I don't know. [00:15:17] And saying, I don't know is okay. [00:15:18] In fact, that is the first step towards knowing God is saying, I don't know. [00:15:24] I want to learn. [00:15:25] Atheism is a wall. [00:15:27] It's a shield. [00:15:28] Saying, I got all the answers. [00:15:30] You see, I figured it out. [00:15:31] There's nothing up there. [00:15:33] It takes a lot of pride to believe in something like that. [00:15:36] So being an agnostic is perfectly understandable. [00:15:38] It's okay. [00:15:38] And we should reach out with tenderness to those people because there's a creator that wants to get to know them. [00:15:43] The third thing about atheism, and this all ties together, is the intention. [00:15:50] I ask this question frequently, and you should do this too, to the atheists in your life, which is, do you hope you're wrong? [00:15:59] Do you hope that there's a God? [00:16:01] And if the answer is no, I hope there's no God, what a depressing way to look at the world. [00:16:07] You don't see your loved ones. [00:16:09] You can never come in contact with a creator. [00:16:11] There is no ultimate justice. [00:16:13] There's no mercy. [00:16:14] There's no grace. [00:16:14] We're just a bunch of cells. [00:16:16] There's no beauty. [00:16:17] There's no truth. [00:16:18] There's no romance. [00:16:19] We're all just under this hypnotic trick of an act of randomness. [00:16:23] And when you die, it's dust. [00:16:26] What a depressing way to look at the world. [00:16:27] Wouldn't it be a better way to look at the world? [00:16:29] At least a more hopeful way to look at the world, which is why an atheist says, yes, I hope I'm wrong. [00:16:33] I have tons of respect for them. [00:16:34] At least they're on, they want to, they want to be proven that there's a creator. [00:16:39] Then I say, okay, good. [00:16:42] You actually do believe that certain music can speak to you. [00:16:46] Worship literally is the closest that you can come to the romance or to kissing your creator. [00:16:53] If it goes back to the actual word, worship. [00:16:56] That's why there's the longest book of the Bible is dedicated to songs, psalms. [00:17:01] It's how you can get best in touch with the supernatural at times. [00:17:05] When you look at beauty, what is beauty? [00:17:07] That which is perfected in being. [00:17:09] You go to Yosemite National Park, you're, wow, even an atheist is blown away. [00:17:13] There's something that speaks to your soul at that moment, right? [00:17:16] It's more than just logic and reason, of which I'm a huge fan of, don't get me wrong. [00:17:19] My whole movement is built on logic and reason. [00:17:22] But there's something deeper beyond just our ability to think rationally, which I think we don't do enough of in our society, where it speaks to everyone. [00:17:33] And music and beauty and art is how you communicate with them, which is why we have such miserable people in this country. [00:17:38] It's because the music that we're publishing and the art we're producing is so antithetical to what it actually means to pursue beauty. [00:17:48] Music that glorifies the distance from God, a lifestyle, a culture that is self-indulgent, not appreciating the creator. [00:17:57] It's why when you hear this worship music, you're all of a sudden saying, I'm not even understanding all the words, but it's speaking to me. [00:18:08] The word is out. [00:18:09] People are abandoning their overpriced wireless carriers and flocking to PeerTalk for the same coverage, but at a fraction of the price. [00:18:15] If you're with Verizon, AT ⁇ T, or T-Mobile, switching to PeerTalk could save your family over $800 a year. [00:18:21] And switching is so easy, you can keep your phone, keep your number, or get huge discounts on the latest iPhones and Androids. [00:18:26] Like right now, you can get a new iPhone SE. [00:18:28] Forget this, just $7 a month. [00:18:30] Plus right now, take advantage of unlimited talk text and six gigs of data for just $30 a month. [00:18:35] And if you go over on data, they don't charge you for it. [00:18:37] There's a reason why PeerTalk is the highest rated wireless company by Consumer Affairs. [00:18:40] So stop giving your money to overpriced wireless carriers and start saving money. [00:18:44] From your cell phone, dial pound250 and say Charlie Kirk. [00:18:47] Save on your wireless and get a brand new iPhone SE for over $7 a month. [00:18:51] That's pound250 and say Charlie Kirk. [00:18:57] And so how does this all tie together? [00:18:59] Atheism is the fastest growing religion in America. [00:19:02] What's the church of atheism? [00:19:04] We know our church. [00:19:05] We're in it. [00:19:06] Got a great church. [00:19:07] I asked you, what is a church? [00:19:09] You're sitting in it. [00:19:10] It's doing it right. [00:19:11] You're helping the community. [00:19:12] Community, you're feeding the hungry. [00:19:15] You're clothing the cold. [00:19:17] You're mentoring those that are broken. [00:19:19] And yes, you're taking strong moral stances. [00:19:21] What is the church of the atheist? [00:19:24] Because whether or not the atheist, well admit it or not, community, what you're doing right now, every human being needs. [00:19:31] See, the cool thing about what we believe in, and cool is a massive understatement, but I'll use that word, is that we have a God-sized hole in our heart that only Jesus can fill. [00:19:44] And so for atheists or the people that don't believe in a creator, you've got to fill it. [00:19:52] So how do they do that? [00:19:54] Earthly domination. [00:19:57] It's got to take over whatever we possibly can. [00:20:00] What's the tried and true way? [00:20:03] What are most villains in the Bible? [00:20:05] Most people that are portrayed in a negative light, what do they have in common? [00:20:11] Abusing governmental rule against the innocent. [00:20:15] It's a pretty interesting political truth that we don't talk about enough, right? [00:20:19] Pharaoh oppressing the Israelites. [00:20:23] Jesus almost being murdered because of an edict to kill firstborn children. [00:20:28] Wow. [00:20:30] So people in power trying to make themselves permanently and indefinitely important. [00:20:39] And so what's happening here in this country is a theological debate. [00:20:43] Most of the church doesn't realize it. [00:20:44] They're too busy doing TED Talks and talking about how God doesn't care about how you vote, which is just such an unbelievably unbiblical thing to say. [00:20:51] I'll get to that in a sec. [00:20:53] When in reality, here's the theological debate. [00:20:56] We believe that there is a God and you are not him. [00:21:02] Let me say that again. [00:21:03] To the governor of New Mexico, there is a God and you are not him. [00:21:16] That your existence, your thoughts, your choices, your actions, and yes, your rights come from that creator, a vertical relationship of being. [00:21:26] They don't believe that. [00:21:27] They believe that government is the sovereign. [00:21:32] How did we get here? [00:21:34] As America became more secular, became more leftist. [00:21:39] The secularization of America leads us to a place where no one questions lockdowns. [00:21:45] And the church is the mostly blame for this. [00:21:49] This, not this church, but the church in general, because this is the exception, and you know that. [00:21:54] This is the exception to the rule. [00:21:55] You have a rule for a reason and you have exceptions. [00:21:57] Most churches over the last 30, 40 years were indifferent to the most important, moral, and pressing issues of our time. [00:22:07] And especially after the Soviet Union crumbled, the wall fell before I was born. [00:22:14] We kind of took the 90s easy, didn't we? [00:22:17] The 90s, good time economically, peaceful time politically. [00:22:22] You can look back, you're like, wow, we had two genders, Dr. Seuss, Aunt Jemima, gone with the wind. [00:22:28] It's like, it was a great time to be alive, right? [00:22:35] And now we look, we see, you know, I'm going to constantly say something where I'm going to get canceled. [00:22:40] I'm going to get eliminated. [00:22:42] And so what happened in the 90s is we went to sleep and the left went to work. [00:22:47] They took over everything. [00:22:49] The civil service, the academies, the schools, the corporations, the education of your kids, the social media companies. [00:22:56] What did we do? [00:22:56] We kind of went to sleep. [00:22:57] Not to say that the church didn't flourish in the 90s. [00:22:59] Of course. [00:23:00] You had the saddleback movement. [00:23:02] You had the massive expansion of so many different movements. [00:23:05] You know, the Jesus Loves You movement. [00:23:06] All that stuff is great. [00:23:08] What was the result? [00:23:09] The result was we don't do politics. [00:23:12] Politics is for you guys. [00:23:14] We're just going to do the gospel. [00:23:15] What an unbelievably foolish decision that was. [00:23:19] Because when all of a sudden the church is like, we don't do politics. [00:23:21] You guys do what you want. [00:23:22] We don't do politics. [00:23:24] You guys can pass it as long as separation. [00:23:27] We believe in separation of church and state, which is unbiblical, unconstitutional, and it's not in the Constitution. [00:23:31] However, let's pretend that they're right. [00:23:33] How about we keep the state out of the church? [00:23:37] How about we keep the governor out of this place? [00:23:43] And so now we are living the 30-year results of the church being asleep and the left being at work. [00:23:51] See, we defeated communism without ever firing a bullet. [00:23:56] We had a great president, Ronald Reagan, who framed it properly. [00:24:01] You know how Reagan, and he never gets credit for this, and our children that don't study this. [00:24:05] I go to these universities and they have no idea about the Soviet Union, East and West Germany, East and West Berlin. [00:24:12] But if you ask them about the 1619 project, they could tell you all about it. [00:24:16] Get to that maybe in the next service. [00:24:19] Running out of time, as always. [00:24:21] And so we defeated the Soviet Union with ideas, with truth, with morals. [00:24:29] You know what Reagan called the Soviet Union? [00:24:31] The evil empire that is a godless government. [00:24:35] He declared a theological difference. [00:24:38] He said, We believe that God created us. [00:24:41] They believe Vladimir Lenin created them. [00:24:43] Let's see who wins. [00:24:45] What happened? [00:24:46] They crumbled. [00:24:50] And now many of those countries in Eastern Europe are actually more in pursuit of truth than our own country. [00:24:58] Poland, Hungary, not all the countries have their act together, plenty of corruption, but generally, they don't want to go back. [00:25:05] And now we're playing with a temptation from the devil. [00:25:08] And I don't say that lightly. [00:25:11] We are playing with this temptation. [00:25:13] You can create utopia here. [00:25:16] Just one more government act of universal health care. [00:25:19] Just one more act of $1.9 trillion, right? [00:25:24] Just one more. [00:25:25] We can do it. [00:25:26] When in reality, the conversation we should be having is: before we do another $1.9 trillion, are you acting the best that you can act? [00:25:36] Are you making the decisions best for you? [00:25:38] So the church has been asleep. [00:25:40] The Soviet Union fell because we had a president and a church in the 80s that was reawakened, more so than in the 90s, 90s fell asleep. [00:25:47] I was born in the early 2000s, and I was told that every church that I attended, no politics, It's unbiblical. [00:25:55] Esther, Mordecai, Daniel, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, Joseph, all contested for God's purpose in secular government. [00:26:02] They have to wrestle with the ecclesia thing that I say with. [00:26:05] But then also, some people say, Pastor Steve, you're in violation of Romans 13. [00:26:12] Romans 13, the most quoted and least understood piece of scripture in the Bible. [00:26:19] It's funny, the pastors that gallivan around Romans 13 are very shy to ever talk about any of the other political verses in the Bible. [00:26:31] But what does Romans 13 say? [00:26:33] And I'm paraphrasing: submit to rulers and authority. [00:26:38] Who's in charge? [00:26:40] In this country, God. [00:26:41] You're right. [00:26:43] Who's in charge even in our constitutional republic? [00:26:47] True, but who else? [00:26:49] You. [00:26:50] So who do we submit to in America? [00:26:52] We submit to the will of the people. [00:26:54] You don't submit to some governor that tramples on your first principles. [00:26:58] Under Romans 13, written as Paul wrote it, the minute that your God-granted rights are violated, they're violating Romans 13. [00:27:06] You aren't. [00:27:10] We're the sovereign. [00:27:12] So I'm your governor. [00:27:14] I don't remember her name because she doesn't have a name worth remembering. [00:27:18] I mean that. [00:27:19] No, seriously. [00:27:20] It's true. [00:27:23] In the Bible, names meant a lot. [00:27:25] Names were everything. [00:27:27] She has no name worth remembering. [00:27:29] She is a tyrant. [00:27:30] It's that simple. [00:27:31] And she is in the mold of a tyrant. [00:27:34] Remember this truth. [00:27:36] Scared people are easier to command. [00:27:39] Informed people are harder to control. [00:27:42] The more you learn, the harder you are to control. [00:27:46] And so, why the church? [00:27:51] Why not Planned Parenthood? [00:27:53] Why not BLM Inc.? [00:27:55] Why not cannabis dispensaries? [00:27:57] What is the hyper-fixation on the church? [00:28:01] Almost like a pathological obsession. [00:28:03] Protesters outside. [00:28:06] Government health people, fines, you name it. [00:28:09] And this church isn't alone. [00:28:10] My friend Mike LeClure, Calvary Chapel, San Jose, facing $2 million of fines for doing exactly what you're doing. [00:28:16] He's not backing down. [00:28:18] He's doing the right thing. [00:28:19] There's more pastors than you would believe that are doing this. [00:28:22] We're bringing them together. [00:28:24] Rob McCoy, Joe Pettic, James Cadiz, Cody Kuhl, Jack Hibbs, Jergen, Luke and Angel Barnett. [00:28:31] You know some of these names. [00:28:32] And they are standing. [00:28:33] We're going to bring them together. [00:28:35] But why the church? [00:28:37] It's the only thing they don't control. [00:28:40] That's it. [00:28:41] Show me one other place of terrain they don't control. [00:28:44] You see, they're not interested in building new. [00:28:48] They're interested in taking over, destroying, and destructing. [00:28:51] So they control the universities. [00:28:52] They control the civil service. [00:28:54] They control a lot of the military. [00:28:55] They control mass media. [00:28:56] They control your language, whether you realize it or not. [00:28:59] They control the tech companies. [00:29:00] They control the movies that your kids watch on Disney Plus, all the way up through Netflix. [00:29:04] They control everything. [00:29:06] But they're not satisfied. [00:29:07] They'll never be satisfied. [00:29:08] You know, that is the desire that they have. [00:29:14] Because there's something different about a church that bothers them. [00:29:20] Bothers them on a very personal level. [00:29:22] And who is them? [00:29:23] I'm talking about the people that want you shut down, locked down, government ordinances. [00:29:28] You can call them the left. [00:29:29] You can call them secularists, whatever. [00:29:31] These are all interchangeable terms, but you know exactly who I'm talking about. [00:29:34] And your governor is a perfect personification of it. [00:29:37] Them. [00:29:38] And all of the public health officials and all the intelligentsia that support her. [00:29:43] Why the church? [00:29:45] It's because they know the only thing that is in the way of their ultimate power grab is this place, is the church. [00:29:57] If you look at every successful revolution, they almost always go for the church first. [00:30:03] But even before that, they go for the disagreeable churches. [00:30:06] You see, Stalin didn't go for every church. [00:30:10] He killed thousands of pastors. [00:30:12] We don't teach our children this. [00:30:14] Thousands. [00:30:15] Didn't kill them all. [00:30:17] Why? [00:30:18] Because he knew that people, if they had no churches, they would revolt. [00:30:22] Instead, he kept the people in the Orthodox tradition that would toe the party line. [00:30:30] That would say that Stalin is anointed by God, which is considered in the Old Testament the worst commandment. [00:30:41] Now, we don't talk about this correctly. [00:30:43] People say taking God's name in vain is the worst commandment. [00:30:46] That is true. [00:30:48] You go back to the original Hebrew, it's not just saying God is an expletive, which no one should do. [00:30:53] It's different. [00:30:54] It's doing evil in the name of God. [00:30:56] That is the thing that is worse than anything else. [00:30:59] Doing that which is immoral and saying God is on your side. [00:31:02] Saying that God wants Planned Parenthood to remain open. [00:31:06] That is the worst thing you can do. [00:31:07] It's saying how God's purpose is somehow for an evil. [00:31:14] The church bothers them. [00:31:15] They need the churches closed because then they'll be in total control. [00:31:18] People say, well, Charlie, what do they want to do next? [00:31:20] They haven't thought that through. [00:31:21] They just want power. [00:31:22] They want power. [00:31:23] No different than Napoleon, no different than they just want terrain. [00:31:27] They want power. [00:31:29] We want freedom. [00:31:30] That's why we are not built for this, but we got to get trained. [00:31:33] And I see your eagerness. [00:31:34] Why are we not built for this? [00:31:36] Because for us, we kind of want government to be a second or third concern. [00:31:41] Our family, our church, our profession, and our hobbies should matter more than our governments. [00:31:47] Our government should remain where it's supposed to in a limited constitutional form so then we can live our life. [00:31:53] Their life is the government because it's their church. [00:31:58] Remember, every person needs community and connection. [00:32:03] Here you worship God. [00:32:05] In a different way and almost in a parallel way in the last year, they look to the state for all the answers. [00:32:13] Now, I'm by no means saying we should get rid of government. [00:32:16] Government should enforce our laws. [00:32:17] We should have judges. [00:32:18] We should have police, and we should thank our police officers for doing an amazing job. [00:32:23] But government has a very specific role. [00:32:27] In fact, it's the Bible that originally talked about what government should be. [00:32:34] But did you know, for decades, Israel had no standing army and no military and virtually no crime? [00:32:42] Why? [00:32:42] Because everyone knew the law. [00:32:44] And they were the self-enforcing police of the law. [00:32:46] And then what did they say, God, give us a king? [00:32:48] It said, be careful what you wish for. [00:32:51] And then it started to unravel and deteriorate from there. [00:32:54] And so we're in a theological debate in this country. [00:32:58] Very few Christians admit it. [00:33:00] And it's really a question of who's in charge. [00:33:03] Where do your rights come from? [00:33:05] And even a more basic and fundamental question, which is, who do you blame for your problems? [00:33:12] It's a really simple, this is, I talk about this with students all the time. [00:33:15] And if you are a student, my next speech will be all about young people, college, education, social media, completely tailored to the next generation. [00:33:25] And so if that interests you, please go to that because these kind of work in a little bit of like a chapter sequence. [00:33:31] But I'll touch on this right now. [00:33:33] We used to tell our young people in the 1950s and 60s, correctly, that you're pretty screwed up and America's awesome. [00:33:44] Now we tell our young people, you're wonderful and America's terrible. [00:33:50] We completely turned it on its head. [00:33:52] For parents out there, let me tell you one piece of biblical truth. [00:33:57] Self-control is infinitely more important to teach your kids than self-esteem. [00:34:07] The great Dennis Prager talks about this quite often. [00:34:09] You know who has a ton of self-esteem? [00:34:11] This is very provocative. [00:34:12] I can't wait for this to get written up. [00:34:13] Murderers. [00:34:14] They do. [00:34:16] Psychological analysis by independent studies, one after the other. [00:34:20] You must think highly of yourself to take another life. [00:34:22] That's not to say that you should just beat yourself up all the time. [00:34:24] That's not what I'm suggesting. [00:34:26] But the self-esteem movement has done such unbelievable damage and harm to my generation. [00:34:30] Unspeakable damage. [00:34:32] I remember walking through high school and there were these signs that said you're perfect the way you are. [00:34:37] And I remember turning to my teacher and then why the heck are we here? [00:34:41] Everything's done if I'm perfect the way I am. [00:34:44] Now the intention of the self-esteem movement might be good. [00:34:46] We're beating our kids up too much. [00:34:48] We got to lift them up. [00:34:49] Okay, there might be some adjustments that could have been made. [00:34:51] But to flip it on its head and say you could do anything you want when you want to do it, you're the most important thing in the world. [00:34:56] There is a gravitational pull around your existence with such an unbelievable disservice. [00:35:02] We have the most suicidal, depressed generation in American history, the most drug-addicted, device-addicted. [00:35:09] And again, my next speech will be specifically tailored to that. [00:35:14] Where we teach young people in college that the biggest problem in the world is America, is something existential. [00:35:22] And in reality, the biggest problem in the world is you. [00:35:24] It's your actions. [00:35:26] It's your relationship with your creator. [00:35:28] You got to get your act together. [00:35:30] Stop blaming other people. [00:35:32] Make better choices. [00:35:34] Stop doing drugs. [00:35:35] Tell the truth. [00:35:37] Wake up earlier. [00:35:38] Work harder. [00:35:41] It's easier to blame other people. [00:35:42] And I'm all for pointing out plenty of injustices. [00:35:46] And a great way to, a great example is in New Mexico here, is the governor has really unfairly gone after so many people that there's a legitimate claim that you could say that I have not been able to do something because of what the governor did. [00:36:03] And I'm not one to glorify victimhood. [00:36:06] But legitimately, if you're a small business owner in New Mexico, you are a victim. [00:36:09] And I don't say that lightly. [00:36:10] I reserve that label for when it is necessary. [00:36:14] When I go to a college campus and I see a black woman at Harvard and she says I'm oppressed, I say, you're not oppressed. [00:36:20] You're the luckiest black woman in the history of the world. [00:36:22] You're at Harvard. [00:36:23] Work hard. [00:36:24] You'll be ahead of a law firm. [00:36:25] Stop telling me how oppressed you are. [00:36:27] And first of all, you're lucky. [00:36:30] I'm oppressed because I'm a black woman at Harvard. [00:36:33] Give me a break. [00:36:36] This oppression Olympics nonsense has got to stop. [00:36:38] This competition of I'm the most oppressed person in the world. [00:36:41] None of you are oppressed even remotely as much as 99% of the rest of the world. [00:36:46] You live in America. [00:36:47] Make good choices, succeed, be thankful. [00:36:48] It's that simple. [00:36:57] Oh, they're going to love that one, Pastor Steve. [00:37:01] Now, while I'm on it, and I just say this, we're the least racist country in the history of the world. [00:37:05] One of the biggest lies, one of the most dangerous lies, and I'm going to try to fit this in with the six minutes I have remaining. [00:37:11] It's not easy. [00:37:12] Is, look, the devil seeks to divide. [00:37:14] We know that. [00:37:15] The gospel seeks to unite. [00:37:16] It is unifying gospel by definition. [00:37:18] Paul says clearly, neither slave nor master nor Greek nor Jew, we are all one in the body of Christ. [00:37:25] I think your skin color is completely irrelevant. [00:37:27] I don't care what you look like. [00:37:28] I care how you act. [00:37:29] I don't care about the melanin content in your skin. [00:37:31] It's irrelevant. [00:37:32] If you care about people's skin color, you're the racist, not me. [00:37:35] It's that simple. [00:37:40] Now, let me say, there are racists in America, no doubt. [00:37:45] But we have a supply and demand problem with racists in America. [00:37:49] There's such an unbelievably limited supply and this pent-up demand to find them. [00:37:54] We're actually more decent than we give ourselves credit for. [00:37:58] You know how the only way you could believe people are good is if you live in America where people are basically good. [00:38:04] You go to the rest of the country, the rest of the world. [00:38:08] It's not always the case. [00:38:09] We are the most generous country in the history of the planet, the most accepting, the most benevolent, the least likely to judge on race. [00:38:16] And yet I have to go through this non-stop narrative, which is designed to divide. [00:38:23] That there's someone lurking in the shadows that wants to hold you back based on your skin color. [00:38:28] Let me be very clear. [00:38:29] If there's a racist in the audience, you got work to do to repent and to communicate with your creator and ask for forgiveness. [00:38:35] I mean that. [00:38:36] It's a sin. [00:38:38] However, your mere existence as a white heterosexual male does not mean that you are currently participating or engaging in the sin of racism. [00:38:50] It doesn't. [00:38:51] And anything to the contrary is a lie. [00:38:53] In fact, it's a hyperfixation to try to keep people down, to convince them they can't succeed because there's a boogeyman around the corner. [00:38:59] When in reality, if you get married before you have kids, you graduate from high school and get a job, you're going to be just okay in this country, generally, and don't commit crimes. [00:39:10] It's a tough message, but it's true. [00:39:13] When in reality, it's easier. [00:39:14] You know how much easier my life would be, Steve, if I just went around and I had a list of people you could blame. [00:39:19] Seriously, your employer, your parents, which is another thing I'm going to talk about in the next thing. [00:39:24] I do want to mention it here. [00:39:25] It's a very important thing. [00:39:26] What's the first thing tyrants always do before they go after the church? [00:39:29] It's very important. [00:39:30] They turn their kids against their parents. [00:39:33] Mao did it. [00:39:34] Stalin did it too. [00:39:35] And you're seeing it now. [00:39:36] You're seeing these spoiled brats on TikTok, and I mean that, that are getting tons of praise from celebrities for talking about how awful their parents are. [00:39:46] Why did God put that in the Ten Commandments? [00:39:49] Honor your parents, not love, completely different word. [00:39:54] It's the only commandment with a promise, so that you may live long in the land of which you are in and prosper. [00:40:00] You don't do that, you don't prosper. [00:40:03] Now, I understand plenty of people have parents who have abused them and all of that. [00:40:09] I get it. [00:40:11] That's an exception. [00:40:12] The rule is that generally your parents weren't awful, generally. [00:40:19] And there are plenty of stories I hear about it. [00:40:23] However, I see people all the time. [00:40:25] I don't talk to my parents anymore. [00:40:26] I say, why? [00:40:27] Well, because they disagree with me on this and this. [00:40:31] I say, no, there's a specific commandment that you must honor your parents. [00:40:34] You must communicate with them. [00:40:36] They might have something that you can learn, to know the road ahead, ask those coming back. [00:40:40] They might be a little bit whatever. [00:40:45] But all of a sudden, to have the pride that I have it all figured out and my parents don't, that is how civilizations disintegrate. [00:40:52] And that's what they want to do. [00:40:53] It's what Mao did. [00:40:54] It's what Stalin did. [00:40:55] He brought in the young kids. [00:40:57] That's what the National Socialist Worker Party in Germany did. [00:41:01] When he brought in all the kids, they say, Your parents don't know, we know, obey the state. [00:41:05] That's why all of a sudden you have kids going to their parents like you don't understand the existential threat of climate change. [00:41:09] You don't understand how systemically racist we are. [00:41:12] Pitting kids against their parents, destroying that compact. [00:41:16] It's intentional because then all of a sudden your governor becomes more important because who are they going to look to for authority? [00:41:21] People need authority. [00:41:23] And if it's not the parent, who hopefully, God willing, will be getting their authority and their wisdom from the Bible and from God, this vertical relationship of civilization replication, which has worked very well for Western society. [00:41:36] We've just decided, you know what? [00:41:37] Everything before us was a mistake. [00:41:39] Let's just throw it through the shredder. [00:41:41] It's basically the ethos of college campuses. [00:41:44] That everyone who came before us, if someone was a white male before the 1800s, they just don't make it into the curriculum because they must have been completely evil, which is such an unbelievably awful way to look at life. [00:41:54] So let me kind of tie this all together. [00:41:57] What you're doing here in New Mexico is on the forefront of what matters most in America. [00:42:03] Let me tell you why. [00:42:05] You do not live in Texas. [00:42:07] You don't live in Alabama or Mississippi. [00:42:09] The fight here is harder. [00:42:14] It's easier to cower and conform. [00:42:17] You know how much easier? [00:42:18] You guys know it. [00:42:19] If you put your Black Lives Matter sign outside of your home, BLM, don't come after me. [00:42:26] I got it. [00:42:26] Look how good of a person I am, right? [00:42:28] All that. [00:42:29] It's harder to go to a church like this. [00:42:32] It's harder to articulate these ideas and values. [00:42:35] It's harder to go against the governor. [00:42:36] My goodness, she has the state police. [00:42:38] She has executive orders. [00:42:40] But I think the country that we all love, which is the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world, and the greatest experiment in civil government, and let me be very clear, we are not a perfect country. [00:42:50] I would never say something like that. [00:42:52] We are the best country, and we're an excellent country, and we're a moral country. [00:42:55] We are, because of our tradition, our culture, our history, our values, our ideas, how we are founded, recognizing we were made in God's image and protecting those rights that God gave us. [00:43:04] No other country has ever done that. [00:43:05] No country. [00:43:09] This country will survive or disintegrate based on whether or not the freedom-loving people contest in the tough fights, in the tough fights. [00:43:23] That is what will determine the future of America. [00:43:27] So in a decade from now, when I return to this church, or whenever, I'm coming in July, but let's say 10 years from now. [00:43:35] I'll be back sooner than that. [00:43:38] We'll look around and we'll say, either every person who was here said, now this is a mandate for action, or I'm just going to kind of cower because the stakes are too high. [00:43:48] That's what's going to determine the future of America. [00:43:50] So let me tell you two things that will give you hope and optimism. [00:43:53] Number one, we know the laws of nature, right? [00:43:57] Law of gravity, law of thermodynamics, Newtonian physics. [00:44:00] These are laws you can prove in science. [00:44:02] And I would like to add one to the scientific community. [00:44:04] The left destroys everything they touch. [00:44:06] Everything. [00:44:09] It says, try to everything. [00:44:11] They destroy the Boy Scouts. [00:44:13] They're trying to destroy the church. [00:44:15] They destroy universities. [00:44:16] They destroy companies. [00:44:18] So they're going to mess this up. [00:44:19] And we will have an opportunity at that moment. [00:44:22] I believe it's happening here in New Mexico. [00:44:23] And here's the second piece of truth that I will tell you. [00:44:26] You're actually much more influential and powerful than you might think. [00:44:30] It is the enemy that whispers in your ear where you say, my action doesn't matter. [00:44:34] My words mean nothing. [00:44:37] And I'm going to do nothing. [00:44:38] Apathy, being indifferent, is a gift to the enemy that wants to put evil into the hearts and minds of our young people. [00:44:49] It's a gift to the enemy that wants to continue to slaughter the unborn, the confusion of gender. [00:44:55] You're a lot more powerful than you might think. [00:44:56] You're also a lot tougher than you might think. [00:44:58] I don't think people give themselves enough credit. [00:45:00] I don't. [00:45:01] Especially in the last year. [00:45:02] Seriously, you're a lot tougher than you think. [00:45:05] And you should be, especially, everyone here should be applauded for that. [00:45:08] So let me give you two action items, one that Steve mentioned. [00:45:11] If you guys are able, it helps me a lot personally and our movement from being canceled by these big tech companies. [00:45:17] Every device has a podcast app. [00:45:19] You type in Charlie Kirk show, you hit subscribe. [00:45:21] Maybe I said something that motivated you to action and you want to hear more. [00:45:24] We do two podcasts a day, one on Saturday, one on Sunday. [00:45:27] And if every person in this church and watching at home did it, we would beat Rachel Maddow in the podcast charts, which I would love to do, everybody. [00:45:33] How great would that be? [00:45:35] Either on Spotify or on Apple News. [00:45:37] And here's the last thing: and run out of time every time. [00:45:40] The Bible is the word of God. [00:45:42] There's no other book ever written like it. [00:45:43] Some people might be here and you might have never been involved in church or whatever. [00:45:47] And you might say, I came here for Charlie and, you know, I don't know about this church thing. [00:45:51] That's fine. [00:45:52] Welcome. [00:45:53] There's a creator that wants to get to know you, that gave you a gift so that you can live forever. [00:45:59] You're broken by your nature. [00:46:01] You're not going to get enough points on the scoreboard to get you to eternal life. [00:46:04] And there is a gift that you can accept that can get you there. [00:46:07] The gospel in four words is Jesus took my place. [00:46:11] The gospel in three words is him for me. [00:46:15] Two words. [00:46:16] Substitutionary atonement in one word, grace. [00:46:18] What is grace? [00:46:19] We say that a lot. [00:46:20] Amazing grace. [00:46:21] Well, first, we must talk about what justice is. [00:46:23] Justice is getting what you deserve, a prison sentence. [00:46:27] A judge comes in and says, you broke into the store, you get a year in prison. [00:46:31] Mercy, as you go in front of the judge, they say, you broke in the store, but you serve a month in prison instead of a year. [00:46:36] It's getting less of a sentence. [00:46:38] But grace is at your sentencing hearing when someone shows up and says, I'll serve the prison sentence for that guy. [00:46:44] That's what Jesus gives you. [00:46:46] God bless you guys, and thank you so much. [00:46:55] Thanks so much for listening, everybody. [00:46:57] If you want to visit us, if you want to see us in person, go to tpusa.com/slash genfree. [00:47:02] Email us your questions, freedom at charliekirk.com. [00:47:05] And if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support. [00:47:09] Thanks so much for listening, everybody. [00:47:10] God bless you. [00:47:11] Speak to you soon. [00:47:15] For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.