The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 49: Mike Lindell, the Questions I didn't Ask Alan Dershowitz, Transgender Sports and More
Aired: 2021-02-08
Duration: 33:12

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[00:01:49]  Hey, everybody, happy Monday.
[00:01:51]  Hope you are doing well, and I hope you had a wonderful weekend enjoying the Super Bowl.
[00:01:56]  As always, on Mondays, we give you an Ask Me Anything episode brought to you by all of you that support us at charliekirk.com/slash support.
[00:02:04]  So I want to thank you for supporting us.
[00:02:06]  And I want to get right into your questions.
[00:02:08]  The number one question that we got over the weekend was around my friend Mike Lindell and a documentary that he released over the last couple days called Absolute Proof.
[00:02:19]  So I have not watched the entire documentary.
[00:02:21]  I've been getting a lot of messages about it.
[00:02:25]  But I will say this.
[00:02:26]  Mike Lindell is a patriot.
[00:02:28]  Mike Lindell is a devout Christian, and he's someone that has always said what he believes.
[00:02:35]  And I believe he's a man of integrity and a man of honesty.
[00:02:38]  I've watched about the first 45 minutes of the documentary, a lot of which that was being discussed in the documentary are things that we talked about earlier in the Charlie Kirk show back in November and December when it came to voter registration, irregularity, signature requirements, and more.
[00:02:54]  There were other things that I would like to have more information, more data.
[00:02:57]  There were some interviews that were very interesting and somewhat compelling, but I would like to see some more evidence behind this idea that Iran and China directly interfered in the election.
[00:03:09]  Now, I'm not saying it's not true, nor am I saying it's 100% true, and it's not about Mike Lindell at all.
[00:03:15]  Instead, when you have a couple guests that come on and make some claims that the servers are stored overseas, which is something that the voting machine companies are now suing in court if you say that, I would like to just see some more evidence about it.
[00:03:28]  I'm open-minded.
[00:03:29]  I'm going to embrace my David Hume, but I will say this: Mike Lindell deserves credit for being relentless and having perseverance.
[00:03:38]  Mike Lindell is someone that is never afraid to take on the tough fights, and he is going to continue to have this very important conversation and discussion when it comes to voter integrity and finding out what happened in the 2020 election.
[00:03:52]  With that being said, I think that if you watch the Mike Lindell documentary, it is important to ask questions, not just say that this is enough evidence to overturn the election.
[00:04:03]  There was not enough evidence in that documentary to overturn the election.
[00:04:07]  You had a couple pieces of interviews and data that was mentioned in the first part of the documentary that was brought to you by the Armistad Project that is very much disputed by the Secretary of State's offices.
[00:04:21]  Now, is it possible the Secretary of State's offices are lying and misleading?
[00:04:25]  Of course.
[00:04:26]  However, a lot of what was presented in this documentary will be thrown out of a courtroom almost instantaneously.
[00:04:32]  So we're going to keep our eye on that.
[00:04:34]  But I know a lot of you are looking for ways to try and support Mike Lindell.
[00:04:39]  And I think that Mike Lindell is one of the most energetic and quite honestly honorable people I've ever met in my life.
[00:04:46]  He's always been someone that has said yes when I've asked him to speak at our events.
[00:04:50]  And it definitely took a lot of courage to produce this documentary.
[00:04:53]  And I refuse to say one word negative about Mike Lindell.
[00:04:58]  I might not say that everything in that documentary has been vetted thoroughly, and I will say that.
[00:05:04]  I'm not saying it's not true.
[00:05:05]  I'm just pushing back against some of the claims of the international servers because I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever, nor have I seen evidence that the servers are stored in Frankfurt, Germany with the Seidel raid.
[00:05:18]  With that being said, I'm not saying that they're wrong.
[00:05:20]  I'm just saying that I need more evidence to support that.
[00:05:23]  I am going to watch the documentary in its entirety.
[00:05:28]  However, I did just want to be very clear that I think Mike Lindell is an honorable person.
[00:05:32]  He is full of integrity.
[00:05:34]  I encourage you to check it out and watch it for yourself.
[00:05:36]  However, there is a need for more evidence and data behind some of the claims that were being made.
[00:05:44]  Not saying that they're not true, but in order for them to actually materialize in courts acting upon them, there's going to have to be some revealing of what happened in these machines.
[00:05:55]  Were they really tapped into the internet?
[00:05:57]  Were they actually going to foreign servers in Barcelona?
[00:06:00]  But I remain open-minded and willing to entertain any sort of factual and evidence-based discussion that occurs.
[00:06:11]  So if you guys want to check it out, I think it's at Mike Lindell's website.
[00:06:15]  And also, if you want to support Mike Lindell and if you believe that he's being courageous and you also want to support our show alongside of it, you can either go to mypillow.com, use the promo code Kirk when you check out.
[00:06:26]  All right, let's get to the next question here.
[00:06:28]  Hey, Charlie, Turning Point USA, you talk quite often about reforming higher education.
[00:06:33]  Do you think we should get rid of all higher education or should we just go to vocational schools?
[00:06:36]  Thanks so much, Carly from Indiana.
[00:06:39]  Well, Carly, congratulations.
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[00:06:47]  Look, no, I do not believe that education, higher education, should be eliminated.
[00:06:52]  In fact, I think that in its ideal form, higher education is totally necessary for our country.
[00:06:59]  It has just digressed into indoctrination camps and training centers to create the next generation to be bitter and angry about the country they live in.
[00:07:12]  In fact, every person that graduates from college today should be getting a degree in ingratitude, because that is basically the underlying component of higher education.
[00:07:22]  College, which really means partnership, partnership between the students and the faculty, a partnership.
[00:07:27]  It goes back to its original, if you go back to its original Greek or Latin meaning, the word college comes from partnership.
[00:07:33]  It should be about creating students to be stronger, to be more alert, more aware, and to teach them how to be.
[00:07:43]  Hillsdale College does a great job with this.
[00:07:45]  I've talked about Hillsdale a lot.
[00:07:47]  In fact, I learned a lot from their Constitution 101 course online.
[00:07:51]  I encourage a lot of people to check it out.
[00:07:53]  However, Hillsdale is a rare exception.
[00:07:57]  Hillsdale is not how most colleges are across the country.
[00:08:01]  Most colleges are about pursuing a very perverted type of diversity, caring about how people look, not how people act.
[00:08:11]  Caring about what people look like, not how people think.
[00:08:15]  You see, college has become a place where they want everyone to look different but think the same.
[00:08:22]  College is supposed to be about a journey to get to the bottom of this, to pursue truth.
[00:08:27]  And how do you do that?
[00:08:29]  Well, people say quite often we are living in unprecedented times.
[00:08:32]  It's never been as bad as today.
[00:08:35]  People say that America's a racist, bigoted, homophobic country.
[00:08:39]  We're more racist today than we ever have been.
[00:08:41]  Well, you only know that if you study history.
[00:08:44]  History is both a reference point, a roadmap, a thermometer, a mirror, and a compass.
[00:08:50]  It tells you where you are in relation to things that came before you.
[00:08:54]  It lets you chart your path forward.
[00:08:56]  It lets you take the temperature of where you actually are right now.
[00:09:00]  You can look at yourself and say, am I really living up to standards of what it means to be a complete person, to live with character, and to live with integrity?
[00:09:11]  You see, the academy, higher education, does not do that anymore.
[00:09:16]  That is why I believe that college should be more about career preparation than ideological exploration with an asterisk.
[00:09:22]  If you can find a college that will actually teach you the classics, if you can teach a college that is affordable, that will actually allow you to explore these great ideas while also preparing you for a career, then that is what higher education should be.
[00:09:35]  But it isn't anymore.
[00:09:37]  In fact, I encourage people to now do that autodidactically.
[00:09:41]  The word autodidactic basically means self-taught.
[00:09:45]  You can go through online curriculums such as the Hillsdale online curriculum.
[00:09:49]  You can go through YouTube lectures.
[00:09:51]  You can study the great books.
[00:09:52]  You could study Plato or Aristotle or Thomas Aquinas because pursuing truth is the most important thing that you can do in a confused world.
[00:10:02]  Aristotle said there are two intellectual virtues: knowledge of the things that change, practical knowledge, stuff around you.
[00:10:10]  What's the capital of Indiana?
[00:10:12]  How large is Montana?
[00:10:14]  When was America founded?
[00:10:16]  That information is important, but that is practical knowledge.
[00:10:19]  But then Aristotle said the ultimate intellectual virtue is knowledge of things that never change.
[00:10:26]  Newtonian physics, the laws of nature, human nature.
[00:10:31]  Those are the things that are worth pursuing.
[00:10:34]  Wisdom is worth pursuing.
[00:10:36]  Now people say, how do you find wisdom?
[00:10:38]  Well, the reason why we consider people that are older to usually be wise is because wisdom is the reasoning of all things eternal.
[00:10:48]  It takes time.
[00:10:49]  Wisdom is not about how much information you know.
[00:10:52]  Wisdom is not about how many facts you are able to recite.
[00:10:56]  Wisdom is not about your ability to be able to recite the 95,000 different reasons why you think America is racist.
[00:11:05]  No, wisdom is the reasoning of things that do not change.
[00:11:10]  And that is the furnishing of the mind.
[00:11:12]  Now, that is not happening in most colleges across the country.
[00:11:16]  Most colleges do the exact opposite.
[00:11:18]  They don't spend any time on wisdom.
[00:11:20]  And the great expression, Dennis Prager says this often, is that without God, there is no wisdom.
[00:11:26]  They've removed God from the universities, therefore, there's no wisdom.
[00:11:29]  People say that men and women are exactly the same.
[00:11:32]  People say that borders do not matter.
[00:11:34]  America's a terrible, awful country.
[00:11:36]  And then you kind of get into a set of circumstances where without wisdom, you get into chaos.
[00:11:44]  And so, yes, I am in favor of a traditional small L liberal education.
[00:11:49]  I just can't find it in most schools.
[00:11:51]  Most schools, in fact, 99.9% of schools will not teach Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle.
[00:11:57]  Thomas Aquinas, David Hume, Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine, Rene Descartes, Immanuel Kant, John Locke, Jean-Jacques Rousseau in its correct framing, will not teach any of those things.
[00:12:11]  It'll not teach Thomas Hobbes.
[00:12:13]  It definitely won't teach Thomas Jefferson.
[00:12:16]  It won't teach James Madison, George Washington, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, James Monroe, Teddy Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan.
[00:12:25]  Instead, you'll learn about Jacques Derrida.
[00:12:28]  You'll learn about how bigoted, racist, and backwards America is.
[00:12:33]  That's no way to furnish the American mind.
[00:12:36]  In fact, that creates activists.
[00:12:38]  College in its ideal form should be about teaching people how to be, not what to destroy.
[00:12:45]  And that's where college has become.
[00:12:47]  Now, we try to nurture and foster that form of community at Turning Point USA.
[00:12:52]  And I encourage all of you to check it out at tpusa.com, tpusa.com, because there is so much beauty in the world to learn.
[00:13:01]  How to be, how do you act?
[00:13:03]  And that is something I tell young people all the time.
[00:13:06]  I say, worry a lot less about what kind of job you're going to get, and worry about how you are going to act, how you are going to be.
[00:13:12]  Worry about the things that are eternal.
[00:13:14]  The rest will sort itself out.
[00:13:17]  And yes, if you are going to go to college, you should go to college for a good reason.
[00:13:21]  If you're going to go to one of these liberal indoctrination camps, at least get a skill that you are able to use in the marketplace because they are not going to teach you how to be at a university.
[00:13:34]  Instead, they'll teach you the opposite, and you'll get no skill and a lot of debt as the only thing to show for it.
[00:13:40]  But yes, check out TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.
[00:13:43]  Great question.
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[00:14:26]  Kent Henderson from Phoenix, congratulations, UN assigned copy of the MAGA doctrine, says, Charlie, when conservatives interview Alan Dershowitz, I always feel like there's an elephant in the room about which no one will speak.
[00:14:36]  It's the fact that he's still a Democrat.
[00:14:38]  I like Alan.
[00:14:38]  I know he's a wealth of knowledge that benefits people who get to hear him question on the issues.
[00:14:42]  But I can't help but wonder why nobody ever looks the man in the eyes and respectfully asks, Professor Dershowitz, given the changes of the Democrat Party in the last 10 to 15 years, and given your staunch defense of the Bill of Rights and our Constitution, how can you still be a Democrat today?
[00:14:56]  Were you tempted to ask this?
[00:14:57]  And if so, is there a specific reason you didn't?
[00:14:59]  Thanks for your work and God bless.
[00:15:00]  I responded to Kent and complimented him.
[00:15:02]  It is a great question.
[00:15:04]  In fact, good enough for me to answer it on air.
[00:15:06]  I probably should have asked that, but it wasn't really the topic of our conversation.
[00:15:09]  In fact, I encourage you to check out our conversation with Alan Dershowitz.
[00:15:12]  I believe it dropped on Thursday or Friday.
[00:15:14]  So check it out and make sure you're subscribed to the Charlie Kirk show while you do that.
[00:15:18]  But I will say this, Alan Dershowitz is a traditional liberal.
[00:15:22]  Alan Dershowitz believes diversity is about thoughts, values, the spirit, not about skin color.
[00:15:31]  Alan Dershowitz believes that markets are generally a force for good.
[00:15:34]  Alan Dershowitz believes in freedom of speech.
[00:15:37]  Alan Dershowitz is a civil libertarian.
[00:15:40]  In fact, he has done phenomenal work defending people when it comes to civil liberty issues.
[00:15:44]  Alan Dershowitz is not a leftist.
[00:15:47]  The Democrat Party more and more is being represented by leftists.
[00:15:51]  It's being represented by people that do not believe markets are a good way to solve problems.
[00:15:56]  They do not believe in civil liberties.
[00:15:58]  Instead, they believe in totalitarianism.
[00:16:02]  You see, when we study totalitarians, one of the things and one of the attributes that pops out is how they do not want opposing ideas to be spread.
[00:16:13]  You see, what's so amazing about speech, what's so amazing about learning, what's so amazing about words, if I could just be as simple as possible, is that speech can crumble a tyranny.
[00:16:26]  This is exactly why Xi Jinping, this is exactly why Benito Mussolini, why Stalin, they were always most worried about the writers, the authors, the dissonants.
[00:16:36]  They weren't as worried about the people that had weapons to use against them.
[00:16:40]  They always felt, I have a bigger gun, I have a bigger infantry or a bigger military, I'll be able to eliminate you.
[00:16:46]  No.
[00:16:47]  Dictators are afraid of words.
[00:16:50]  Alan Dershowitz respects this and believes in this.
[00:16:54]  Alan Dershowitz, in every single way, is someone that thinks that the more speech, the better.
[00:17:00]  Why he's still a Democrat, I don't know.
[00:17:02]  I don't think he actually is.
[00:17:04]  I think that he continues to identify as a Democrat because I think it actually gives him more credibility when he speaks out on many of these issues.
[00:17:12]  When he speaks out about the illegal impeachment coming after President Trump, as a Democrat who defended O.J. Simpson, as a Democrat who defended the Chicago 7, as a Democrat who speaks in favor of freedom of speech issues, he has more credibility.
[00:17:28]  At the same time, though, Alan Dershowitz has a lot of work to do within his own party.
[00:17:32]  The Democrat Party is no longer a party of free speech.
[00:17:34]  This is exactly why they had to remove people from Twitter, Facebook, and Google.
[00:17:38]  Understand this, that the right words can crumble a dictatorship in the matter of hours.
[00:17:45]  The right phrasing that might just immediately mesh with our spirit, mesh with our desire to be free.
[00:17:53]  The right words communicated clearly to the masses can crumble the Chinese Communist Party.
[00:17:59]  That is why America has relatively stayed free over the last couple hundred years, despite many attempts by different movements and authoritarians to take away our freedom and liberty.
[00:18:10]  As long as we can speak, then we can remain free.
[00:18:14]  Remember, there are two ways of governing people.
[00:18:16]  We talk about this quite a lot on our program, but it's one of the takeaways that I hope you tell people all the time.
[00:18:24]  And it's in some form or fashion of Charlie Kirk original.
[00:18:26]  I got this in one little element from Dr. Larry Arn from Hillsdale, but I kind of added to it, which is there are two ways to govern people.
[00:18:34]  You can govern them by force.
[00:18:36]  You can govern them by the military.
[00:18:40]  You can govern them by having a bigger stick or a bigger gun.
[00:18:43]  Or you can govern people using words.
[00:18:46]  You can govern people by persuasion.
[00:18:49]  You can govern people by winning them over.
[00:18:53]  You can win them over on values issues.
[00:18:55]  You can win them over on ideas.
[00:18:56]  So that is why Alan Dershowitz is such a committed defender to freedom of speech.
[00:19:02]  Alan Dershowitz understands, and I don't say this lightly, the existential threat that the suppression of ideas and speech poses to the United States of America.
[00:19:12]  And so we should continue to embrace people like Alan Dershowitz.
[00:19:15]  Alan Dershowitz was nice enough to come on our program.
[00:19:18]  In fact, again, I encourage you to go download that episode.
[00:19:20]  You will learn a lot about the Constitution.
[00:19:22]  You'll learn a lot about due process.
[00:19:24]  You'll learn a lot about it on our program.
[00:19:26]  So please check it out.
[00:19:27]  Great question.
[00:19:28]  And thank you, UNA signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine.
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[00:20:04]  Here's a question here from Sheila from Rhode Island.
[00:20:07]  Hey, Charlie, my professor at an unnamed university says Winston Churchill was one of the worst people of the 20th century.
[00:20:15]  How do I respond to this?
[00:20:16]  I know you're a big fan of Winston Churchill.
[00:20:18]  You speak about him quite often.
[00:20:20]  Was he really that bad?
[00:20:22]  Thanks so much, Sheila from Rhode Island.
[00:20:24]  Well, congratulations, Sheila, from Rhode Island.
[00:20:26]  You win a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine.
[00:20:28]  Secondly, you should get involved with TurningPointUSA, TPUSA.com.
[00:20:32]  Winston Churchill was one of the greatest human beings ever to live.
[00:20:39]  Immensely flawed, full of problems, but still one of the greatest people ever to live.
[00:20:46]  Winston Churchill became a hero for winning a war that he spent decades trying to prevent.
[00:20:52]  Churchill was a master of statesmanship.
[00:20:55]  Churchill wrote over 50 books.
[00:20:57]  I encourage you to go pick one of them.
[00:20:59]  Churchill served in almost every theater of war imaginable, from the Boer War to the Middle East to Africa to Afghanistan.
[00:21:08]  Winston Churchill stepped up courageously and with clarity when almost his entire civilization, the British Empire, wanted to surrender to the Nazis.
[00:21:20]  Winston Churchill won a Nobel Prize in literature.
[00:21:23]  Winston Churchill was always somebody that was pushing the United Kingdom or Britain to excellence.
[00:21:34]  But you see, Churchill was hated before he became prime minister, loved while he was prime minister, and hated after he became prime minister.
[00:21:42]  Winston Churchill called World War II the unnecessary war.
[00:21:46]  It's because Winston Churchill, for decades, about 10 years is probably a better way to say it, about 10 years, was warning about the threat of Nazi Germany.
[00:21:57]  He kept Britain together under relentless bombing of Germany.
[00:22:06]  Winston Churchill refused to surrender, famously saying, we shall never surrender.
[00:22:11]  You know how easy it would have been to be like Neville Chamberlain and go to peace talks with the Nazis?
[00:22:18]  Instead, Winston Churchill had an unbreakable strength, a commitment to this idea of Western civilization, of freedom of speech, religious liberty, founded on Christian virtues and values.
[00:22:31]  And he looked evil right in the eyes and he refused to surrender.
[00:22:36]  Because if he would have surrendered and they would have gone to peace talks, America very well might have been next and Europe might never have been reclaimed.
[00:22:45]  It might still be under perpetual totalitarian rule to this day.
[00:22:52]  But it was a small island nation, thanks to Winston Churchill, that stood up to this evil.
[00:22:59]  The first nation to do it.
[00:23:01]  France was divided.
[00:23:03]  There was a creation of a group of French military called the Vichy French that actually collaborated with the authoritarian, totalitarian, national socialist worker parties.
[00:23:13]  And Winston Churchill did everything he could to keep France in the war.
[00:23:16]  And he was left alone.
[00:23:18]  And the bombing of London nearly broke the entire country.
[00:23:23]  The Blitz is what they called it.
[00:23:25]  The Luftwaffe versus the British Expeditionary Air Force.
[00:23:30]  The Spitfires.
[00:23:32]  Dunkirk, the near obliteration of almost all British troops in France at the time.
[00:23:39]  They were able to be evacuated to Britain.
[00:23:42]  And then Pearl Harbor rolled around.
[00:23:44]  And as Pearl Harbor happened, Winston Churchill smiled and he said, This is the day we have won the war.
[00:23:49]  America will get involved.
[00:23:51]  Their industrial might will be activated.
[00:23:53]  And we will win this war.
[00:23:56]  It's easy to judge Churchill based on his negatives.
[00:24:02]  Some of the military interventions that he sponsored.
[00:24:05]  Some of the questionable decisions that he encouraged towards indigenous people.
[00:24:11]  I think all of that can happen in a spirited discussion.
[00:24:17]  And I'm not going to justify and I'm not going to apologize for any of that.
[00:24:21]  What I will say, though, is that the gift that Winston Churchill gave is your ability to remain free today and standing up to the authoritarian Holocaust.
[00:24:33]  The only reason it was interrupted was because of Winston Churchill.
[00:24:37]  If he would have acted like Neville Chamberlain and rolled over and surrendered, our entire planet would be in different set of circumstances.
[00:24:49]  Because of one guy who refused to surrender, rallied Britain together, walked the streets of London when it was full of rubble, death, blood, chaos, despair.
[00:25:05]  And he said very firmly, we shall never surrender.
[00:25:09]  In fact, let's play some tape right here.
[00:25:11]  Winston Churchill saying, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the streets, we shall fight on the hills.
[00:25:17]  One of the greatest pieces of historical audio out there.
[00:25:22]  I want you to think about this, how easy it would have been to go to peace terms, because the Nazis, they never wanted to fight Britain initially.
[00:25:32]  You see, Hitler wanted Paris.
[00:25:37]  He found it to be the cultural capital of Europe.
[00:25:40]  Going back further into history, Hitler was a racist.
[00:25:44]  He cared about skin color.
[00:25:47]  Hitler actually cared about what people looked like.
[00:25:50]  Hitler cared about where people came from.
[00:25:52]  And if you actually study the ancestry of the people of Britain and the people of Germany, they are the same bloodline.
[00:25:59]  That is why the people of England are typically called Anglo-Saxon.
[00:26:03]  Saxon, of course, being one of the regions of Germany near Bavaria.
[00:26:08]  So Hitler never considered Britain to be a primary concern, but as he realized Churchill was bringing troops into France to stop his expansion and Churchill wasn't going to surrender, he made him an enemy.
[00:26:27]  And then after the Nazis bombed London, Churchill then retaliated and bombed Berlin in an all-night bombing campaign halfway across Europe.
[00:26:39]  And as they say, the rest is history.
[00:26:42]  The Nazis would have preferred just to focus on Russia.
[00:26:45]  They considered the Kazakhs and the people of Russia to be racially inferior.
[00:26:54]  That was their concern.
[00:26:55]  The Soviet Union was always his greater concern, similar to Napoleon.
[00:27:00]  Got distracted with Churchill and pride took over.
[00:27:04]  And it wasn't quite honestly solved till the fall of Berlin.
[00:27:08]  But listen to this tape of Churchill.
[00:27:10]  Listen to the urgency in his voice.
[00:27:14]  It would have been so easy to give up.
[00:27:16]  Play tape.
[00:27:17]  We shall go on to the end.
[00:27:19]  We shall fight in France.
[00:27:22]  We shall fight on the seas and oceans.
[00:27:25]  We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.
[00:27:31]  We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
[00:27:35]  We shall fight on the beaches.
[00:27:37]  We shall fight on the landing grounds.
[00:27:40]  We shall fight in the fields and in the streets.
[00:27:44]  We shall fight in the hills.
[00:27:46]  We shall never surrender.
[00:27:48]  And if, because I do not for a moment believe this island or a large part of it was subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British fleet, would carry on the struggle until in God's good time, the new world with all its power and might step forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
[00:28:18]  So to finish your question, the man is a hero.
[00:28:20]  Statues should be built in his name, not being torn down.
[00:28:26]  Schools should be called the Winston Churchill Center for Higher Learning, the Winston Churchill Elementary School.
[00:28:33]  Instead, we're renaming them.
[00:28:36]  We're tearing it down, eliminating him from history.
[00:28:39]  Not just us, the United Kingdom is.
[00:28:42]  What an insult to a great man that truly is.
[00:28:46]  Next question from Jeff is talking about the Time magazine article.
[00:28:51]  Now, I think a lot of people that listened to our podcast the last couple days might have missed that episode.
[00:28:56]  So please go back just a couple episodes in addition to the Dershowitz episode and listen to our episode we did.
[00:29:02]  It's an hour-long episode.
[00:29:03]  We went into depth into the Time magazine article that was the shadow campaign that pulled off the 2020 election, and it's called How They Did It.
[00:29:12]  We posted it on Saturday morning.
[00:29:14]  So make sure you check it out, How They Did It, the conspiracy to defeat Donald Trump.
[00:29:18]  Make sure you check it out.
[00:29:19]  We're going to get to more questions here.
[00:29:20]  Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
[00:29:22]  This question from Lenta, what happens after the election fraud is proven?
[00:29:26]  Well, Joe Biden is president.
[00:29:28]  There is no undoing that.
[00:29:30]  And even if we're able to prove election fraud in the courts, there will be almost no recourse or measure to undo Joe Biden being president of the United States.
[00:29:39]  To answer your question, I don't know.
[00:29:41]  I don't know what the steps forward are.
[00:29:43]  I do know that once the constitutional provisions are put in place and the Electoral College meets and it's certified and then it's recognized by the Congress on January the 6th, then those steps afterwards are unknown to me.
[00:29:57]  Then those steps afterwards are very clear.
[00:29:59]  Joe Biden becomes president.
[00:30:01]  And then after that, we do not know.
[00:30:03]  So thank you for your question, though.
[00:30:04]  Let's get to the next one here.
[00:30:06]  Here's a question from David.
[00:30:07]  Hey, Charlie, why don't they just give trans people their own league?
[00:30:10]  Let them compete against each other, seeing as how gender and biological differences don't matter.
[00:30:14]  They should have no problem playing against each other in all types of different sports.
[00:30:17]  I actually think it'd be pretty entertaining to watch, like hockey or basketball game with a bunch of guys and girls playing with each other could be interesting.
[00:30:23]  Well, David, you bring up a good point because we are seeing the death of female sports and women's sports in our country because of ideologues, because of people that are pathologically focused on not truth, not biology, but on politics and on feelings.
[00:30:38]  Why are more feminists not standing up for female sports?
[00:30:42]  Why are more feminists not standing up to the girl in the track meet that now has to compete against a guy?
[00:30:50]  There are high school athletes out there right now that are men that can beat the world record holder in the 100-meter dash.
[00:30:59]  That is the difference between men and women when it comes to physical competition.
[00:31:06]  Instead, we are not doing anything to protect these women's sports.
[00:31:13]  And so for local school districts, people say, well, Charlie, how do I get involved?
[00:31:17]  Run for school board under the one topic, under the one thing of men will not be allowed in women's locker rooms and men will not be allowed in female sports.
[00:31:29]  I actually think that's a much more popular position than the political correct tyrants allow you to believe.
[00:31:36]  I've been warning against this trans issue for quite some time.
[00:31:40]  I have a lot of videos on this topic that you can check out on our YouTube channel or on our Instagram feed.
[00:31:47]  Where I've been, I went to the University of Oregon and just opened up shop and started talking to liberals in the open quad at the University of Oregon.
[00:31:57]  You can watch that video in full where a young lady basically says, gender does not matter at all.
[00:32:09]  And to see the indoctrination that this young woman, and yes, I will call her a woman, despite her being resistant to any sort of gender terms, was stunning.
[00:32:22]  The opposite of the pursuit of truth, the opposite of the appreciation of how God made us.
[00:32:28]  So when you remove God, there is no wisdom.
[00:32:30]  When you remove God and you don't believe you're made in the image of God, then you will devolve into chaos.
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[00:33:10]  God bless.
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