The Charlie Kirk Show - Pennsylvania's Mail-In Ballot Madness
Aired: 2020-12-08
Duration: 34:05


=== Lockdowns and Voter Fraud (09:41) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, I sit down with producer Andrew and we go through the latest news of voter fraud and lockdowns across the country.
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[00:00:14]  Lockdowns, voter integrity, Georgia, what is going on?
[00:00:17]  We have the answers.
[00:00:18]  Buckle up, everybody.
[00:00:19]  Here we go.
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[00:00:22]  Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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[00:00:27]  Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
[00:00:31]  I want to thank Charlie.
[00:00:32]  He's an incredible guy.
[00:00:33]  His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
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[00:02:06]  So you're in California.
[00:02:08]  Yeah.
[00:02:08]  How bad is it?
[00:02:09]  Can you do indoor dining?
[00:02:10]  No indoor dining.
[00:02:12]  There was like a period of time where you could, and all of that is now gone.
[00:02:16]  So we're in Phoenix.
[00:02:17]  I was here all weekend, and the restaurants do not have the capacity to satisfy the amount of interest and demand there is.
[00:02:25]  And that just goes to show that after eight or nine months, people are now weighing the risks and they say, I still want to go out to eat.
[00:02:32]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:02:33]  I mean, one of the most startling facts that I don't think people know, and of course they wouldn't because the mainstream media is lying to them.
[00:02:39]  It is fake news.
[00:02:40]  I mean, there's no way about it.
[00:02:42]  And we're not saying that the virus isn't real.
[00:02:45]  That's not what we're saying.
[00:02:46]  We're saying we've never been the position.
[00:02:48]  What we're just saying is there are still less hospitalizations in LA County today than there was in December 2019 before any of this started.
[00:02:56]  Here's the way that I break down a lot of the virus thing.
[00:02:59]  There is little to no chance that we are under-reporting cases and under-reporting current hospitalizations.
[00:03:08]  That's right.
[00:03:09]  We're definitely under-reporting cases, right?
[00:03:12]  So meaning there's people out there right now that have no symptoms or slight symptoms that are not going to get in the testing pool.
[00:03:18]  But so they say that all these deaths are because of the Chinese coronavirus.
[00:03:24]  I have in my own life examples of people that were labeled on the death certificate as dying of the Chinese coronavirus that did not die of the virus.
[00:03:33]  And if you're in the hospital and you're there for an unrelated reason and you get tested for it, you get treated as a case.
[00:03:41]  And so, but also what's really unusual, have you seen how low the regular flu numbers are right now?
[00:03:46]  They can't even report on the flu because there's too few hospitalizations.
[00:03:52]  They can't produce a real report.
[00:03:55]  Folks, this is shocking.
[00:03:57]  And if you're not hearing this on whatever network you're watching, we'll just keep it, we'll keep it vague, then you're getting fake news.
[00:04:06]  They cannot report on flus this season because there are too few hospitalizations.
[00:04:11]  Straight from the CDC's website, by the way.
[00:04:13]  And so there's very little chance that there are more people dying of the virus than what is being reported, meaning that we're probably at the top threshold statistically.
[00:04:25]  There's probably not more people than that.
[00:04:26]  Deaths is a pretty final number.
[00:04:28]  I think it's a lot less than that because these people, just because you're being tested positive for the virus and you're dying, doesn't mean that the virus was necessarily the reason why you died.
[00:04:38]  Well, this was Heather McDonald's point in the City Journal recently, where she said two-thirds of all deaths arguably would have died anyways.
[00:04:44]  Even if it's half true, I mean, it's making your point, right?
[00:04:48]  That a lot of folks tend to be over 80 that are the cohort that's dying at the greatest clip, which makes a lot of sense because people over 80 tend to die faster than everybody else anyway.
[00:04:57]  And mature societies and mature civilizations, when you're confronted with a crisis or you're confronted with something like this, you weigh the costs, you weigh the price.
[00:05:07]  As Dennis Prager says, an act of a mature person is someone who looks at something and say, what is the price of that?
[00:05:13]  What is it going to cost me?
[00:05:14]  So what is the cost of a lockdown?
[00:05:16]  What's the cost of a mask mandate?
[00:05:18]  What's the cost of continually going through this?
[00:05:20]  And is it actually going to do any good?
[00:05:22]  And so despite all the lockdowns, despite all this, we're still seeing infection rates go up.
[00:05:26]  We're still seeing more people that are saying they have it and are going into these testing centers.
[00:05:32]  And what really is the what is more clear than anything else is the lockdowns make people much poorer.
[00:05:37]  They make us far less likely to succeed, far less likely to be able to actually develop therapeutics to conquer this virus.
[00:05:45]  And the human cost of the lockdowns is so significant and so clear, whether it be the rise in suicide rates, the rise in depression, the alcoholism, the drug usage, that the lockdowns, I believe, are nothing more than a tactic and a strategy to want to keep America perpetually in a cycle of not just despair, but going towards almost a great reset globalist direction.
[00:06:11]  No, you're absolutely right.
[00:06:12]  That's why we have to get behind guys like Danny Presti.
[00:06:16]  It's a very easy thing, though, because he just ran into a dangerous thing.
[00:06:18]  Well, okay.
[00:06:19]  And I, listen, if it, if it's proven out that he actually attacked cops, then of course we don't support that.
[00:06:26]  Which I find hard to believe.
[00:06:26]  Which I find hard to believe because this guy's been sort of, I mean, listen, one thing is certainly clear.
[00:06:30]  He's taken a lot of heat for this.
[00:06:32]  He's gotten death threats.
[00:06:34]  He's been called a granny killer.
[00:06:36]  All of these things that are terrible accusations, right?
[00:06:40]  His story is that he got approached from behind by two big burly men.
[00:06:43]  This is a story from the press conference.
[00:06:45]  And that he ran away in defense of his life, that the cop didn't break his leg, that he has sort of like an ankle injury, but it's not a broken bone.
[00:06:53]  I don't know what we're going to, we're going to hear more details about that.
[00:06:56]  But it's not just Danny Presti in Staten Island.
[00:06:59]  You've also got this video out of Los Angeles, Pineapple Hill.
[00:07:05]  Angela Marsden, her video went completely viral this week, and rightly so.
[00:07:09]  It was heartbreaking to watch, especially when Hollywood, 20 feet away, has the exact same outdoor setup that's been given a permit by the state and by the city.
[00:07:20]  So the question then becomes, what are the true costs?
[00:07:23]  What are you going to do about it?
[00:07:25]  And by the way, something looming over all of this is when are we going to actually get back to normal?
[00:07:29]  We actually have some great sound from this that I want to share with everybody.
[00:07:34]  It comes from the Who Special Envoys.
[00:07:38]  It's clip 13, Dr. David Nabar.
[00:07:41]  He was on Sky News over in the UK.
[00:07:43]  He's basically predicting that we're not going to be, even with vaccines, all the promises that are being made, we're not going to be back to normal for two years.
[00:07:49]  Can we play that clip?
[00:07:51]  In my view, we have to go on treating this virus with enormous respect for quite a lot of months to come.
[00:07:58]  And that will mean face masks and physical distancing have to be built into our lives.
[00:08:04]  Otherwise, the virus does just go on surging and causing further problems.
[00:08:10]  I don't want to sugarcoat it.
[00:08:11]  The reality is it'll be some months before we're able to actually dispense with all these precautions.
[00:08:20]  So basically saying that this thing's never going to go away.
[00:08:22]  But I mean, it keeps these people perpetually relevant.
[00:08:25]  I mean, these people, these epidemiologists have never really been in the focal point.
[00:08:30]  I mean, Dr. Anthony Fauci and all these people, they have been warning against something like this for 30 years.
[00:08:36]  And this is kind of their big moment.
[00:08:37]  This is their, this is for, it is the, as the Iraq war is to the war industry, the Chinese coronavirus is to the epidemiological industry.
[00:08:46]  Yeah, it's kind of like this is the new military industrial complex.
[00:08:49]  That's how we have the COVID complex.
[00:08:51]  And the left is okay with it because it's all things that they enjoy.
[00:08:54]  Yeah, individual freedom, all of it.
[00:08:56]  The left runs the institutions.
[00:08:58]  So guess where business is booming right now?
[00:09:00]  The institutions.
[00:09:01]  They get to tell us everything what to do.
[00:09:03]  And they're in power.
[00:09:04]  They get to control things.
[00:09:06]  Complete leftist instincts here at play.
[00:09:09]  So we have, you guys are asking us about voter fraud.
[00:09:13]  You're asking us about what's happening in these states.
[00:09:15]  But there's a new study that comes out.
[00:09:16]  I want you to think about this.
[00:09:17]  Nine in 10 Democrats say the process worked well in the election.
[00:09:21]  Nine in 10 Republicans disagree.
[00:09:24]  So I was at a gathering last evening with very successful Christian Republicans.
[00:09:29]  I'll leave it at that.
[00:09:31]  And every single one of them, every one of them believe the election was stolen from Donald Trump.
[00:09:35]  Not only that, they believe that if he is not sworn in as president in January, they will never trust another election again.

=== Evidence Mounts Against Democrats (14:45) ===

[00:09:41]  And with it, they won't trust their country.
[00:09:43]  I mean, it was so clear to me how there is, this is the true divide here, which is, do you actually trust the process of which we put people into power?
[00:09:55]  And if the answer is no, then you're not going to trust the people in power and you're sure as heck not going to trust what they tell you to do.
[00:10:01]  And then the disintegration only goes from there.
[00:10:03]  Yeah, when both sides are getting further and further away, more polarized, right?
[00:10:07]  It's not going to be the left.
[00:10:08]  The left doesn't even resemble an America that I remember anymore.
[00:10:11]  No, but it's not, we can't even agree on whether or not the leader in charge is actually a leader.
[00:10:16]  Right.
[00:10:16]  Forget about the issues, forget about topics and policies.
[00:10:19]  We're getting to a place where we're going to say, you're not actually my leader.
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[00:12:04]  Day that Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, well, the day that will live in infamy.
[00:12:10]  It was a surprise attack from the Japanese that many people thought that would never happen.
[00:12:17]  Husband E. Kimmel was golfing on Pearl Harbor back in December 7th, 1941.
[00:12:24]  We were obviously surprised attacked.
[00:12:27]  I think over 3,000 people died on Pearl Harbor.
[00:12:30]  Yeah, he was the four-star admiral who served as the commander-in-chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
[00:12:36]  Yeah, so he's forever known.
[00:12:39]  His famous quote was that if only I could have died on Pearl Harbor, then it would have made this whole process a lot easier.
[00:12:48]  Because he had a liberal.
[00:12:49]  He was the admiral who took the fall.
[00:12:51]  Yeah, that's exactly right.
[00:12:52]  And so it awoke what was called the sleeping giant.
[00:12:56]  And obviously, I didn't live through it.
[00:12:58]  My father did not live through it.
[00:12:59]  My grandfather did.
[00:13:00]  My grandfather served in World War II in the Pacific Fleet.
[00:13:04]  I don't know if yours did.
[00:13:05]  Yeah, in the Pacific Fleet, yeah.
[00:13:07]  And so my grandfather was a pilot, and actually they used to call it the Army Air Corps, not the Air Force.
[00:13:13]  That's right.
[00:13:14]  And so, but it was looking back, that was America at its best, fighting a two-front war in both the Pacific and the European theater against absolute and complete evil, not just pushing back what we know of in Europe as total, kind of the methodical, almost mechanized version of absolute evil, which we now know in the Holocaust, but the complete and total takeover of Europe and then eventually the liberation of Europe.
[00:13:42]  But we want to bring up the remembrance of Pearl Harbor.
[00:13:44]  First of all, we don't remember our history enough, I think, in our country.
[00:13:49]  I was just watching some television shows this morning and almost no one mentioned Pearl Harbor at all whatsoever.
[00:13:55]  And I think that's a really important thing that we do.
[00:13:58]  But that generation left us a gift.
[00:14:01]  They left us a gift that really we are squandering right now.
[00:14:06]  And not dissimilar from the two-front war that was going on there.
[00:14:10]  And this is all just a metaphor.
[00:14:11]  I'm not saying that it's the same stakes or the same sacrifice.
[00:14:14]  We're in the middle of a two-front war right now in Georgia, where we not only need to win the Senate races, but we need to expose all of this voter fraud that's happening in this country.
[00:14:23]  And so a lot of people are saying, well, what are the next steps?
[00:14:26]  Here's what we need.
[00:14:27]  Here's what to pray for.
[00:14:28]  Here's what to look for.
[00:14:29]  Here's what hopefully will surface.
[00:14:31]  We need a serious whistleblower in the next week to come forward and say, you know what?
[00:14:37]  I was the organizer.
[00:14:39]  I was the guy that scooped up the ballots.
[00:14:40]  I helped fill them in.
[00:14:42]  I will not be able to live with myself for the rest of my life.
[00:14:44]  And here's where the Department of Justice and the FBI could have been doing a good job.
[00:14:48]  They could have at least been threatening indictments.
[00:14:51]  They could have been smoking this out so that people would have had their, their minds would have been their worst captors.
[00:14:58]  And they would have said, I might go to jail.
[00:15:00]  I'm going to speak out.
[00:15:01]  Offer me immunity.
[00:15:02]  I'll tell you how this whole thing was done.
[00:15:03]  And this is the disservice that the Department of Justice and the FBI did to our country because as they said, oh, there's no voter fraud.
[00:15:10]  You know what all the criminals did?
[00:15:11]  Woo!
[00:15:12]  I thought they were going to come after us.
[00:15:14]  I thought they were going to indict us.
[00:15:15]  But when you start to all of a sudden circle the wagons, the criminals would start to get nervous.
[00:15:21]  They would start to speak out themselves.
[00:15:22]  That's such a great point.
[00:15:23]  If you're a criminal and you even hear people on, let's say, CBS or NBC saying investigations convenience.
[00:15:30]  Yeah, and the FBI threatening years in prison.
[00:15:34]  I mean, that would start to take an effect.
[00:15:36]  But when you turn on the news, if you're one of the criminals and you're looking and it says, this isn't real.
[00:15:41]  This is the most secure election in American history, which is patently false, by the way.
[00:15:46]  You know, you start to say, eh, they're going to cover for me.
[00:15:49]  We're going to get away with this.
[00:15:51]  Yeah, and we know that crimes happen every single day.
[00:15:56]  I know some of you guys are emailing us.
[00:15:57]  We already have whistleblowers.
[00:15:58]  We have 100 whistleblowers.
[00:16:00]  You're right.
[00:16:00]  But we need a whistleblower from within.
[00:16:02]  We need a whistleblower from within the actual process that this was done, the criminal infrastructure.
[00:16:09]  Because look, a judge at some point can look at all this data and say, this was a flawed election.
[00:16:16]  And for any Republican out there that is not willing to fight on this, we are going to remember.
[00:16:23]  And the best example is this.
[00:16:25]  We go back in time.
[00:16:27]  Again, we could talk about so many things that we used to think were true, and then all of a sudden we know the opposite.
[00:16:32]  Look back to Richard Nixon.
[00:16:34]  You understand looking into the idea that Richard Nixon ordered or at least knew about the Watergate hotel raids was a conspiracy theory.
[00:16:42]  What we need right now is we need the quote deep throat.
[00:16:46]  We need the person that comes out and speaks out against it.
[00:16:50]  And if you guys don't know your history and you think I said something inappropriate, well, then go do your research.
[00:16:55]  So let's go through this Daniel Horowitz article on voter fraud, election fraud.
[00:16:59]  And Daniel Horowitz is a lawyer, right?
[00:17:01]  Yeah, and very smart.
[00:17:02]  Yeah.
[00:17:03]  And for the Blaze.
[00:17:04]  He was on with Mark Levin.
[00:17:06]  So.
[00:17:07]  Yeah, our friends at the Blaze, he's done a phenomenal job.
[00:17:10]  He's actually been great on coronavirus as well.
[00:17:13]  He's been phenomenal.
[00:17:14]  Yeah.
[00:17:14]  So I think we have a clip here.
[00:17:15]  He was on with Levin on Fox on Sunday night.
[00:17:19]  Very, very good segment.
[00:17:21]  Let's go ahead and play that clip to get us into this segment.
[00:17:23]  Well, Mark, it's great to be back with you.
[00:17:25]  And look, what we found was magic.
[00:17:27]  I mean, returns and political scientific data that we haven't seen before, where when it comes to mail-in ballots, of which there were many, 2.6 million, it turns out that they always seemed to skew against Trump, even relative to other Republicans, and they always seem to favor Biden, even relative to other Democrat candidates.
[00:17:50]  So comparing apples to apples.
[00:17:52]  Yeah.
[00:17:52]  And so what he's talking about here, the math is phenomenal, how it works out.
[00:17:58]  I mean, you got to see this.
[00:18:00]  So here's taken directly from his article.
[00:18:04]  He said, here are the facts.
[00:18:06]  We know that 2.6 million mail-in ballots have been counted in the Pennsylvania election returns.
[00:18:12]  And just so you guys know, we were in the break.
[00:18:14]  We were talking about an article from September from the Wall Street Journal warning about Pennsylvania's mail-in madness.
[00:18:22]  So this was stuff that we were talking about.
[00:18:23]  President Trump was talking about.
[00:18:25]  Now, here's our after-the-fact analysis.
[00:18:30]  So here we go.
[00:18:31]  So we know that 2.6 million mail-in ballots have been counted in the Pennsylvania election returns in addition to nearly 4.2 million election day votes.
[00:18:39]  We also know that from the Secretary of State that Trump won election day votes, 2.7 to 1.4 million.
[00:18:46]  But we are to believe that Biden won 76% of the mail-in ballots.
[00:18:51]  So just to put it in perspective, 76% is way above the clip.
[00:18:55]  That's statewide.
[00:18:56]  He won nearly 80% of mail-in ballots.
[00:19:00]  That is a lot of Republicans vote by mail.
[00:19:03]  A lot.
[00:19:04]  Tons.
[00:19:04]  Tons.
[00:19:05]  In fact, Republicans used to outpace Democrats in voting by mail, which is why Democrats used to attack vote by mail.
[00:19:11]  Which is why Jimmy Carter used to attack it, which is why all the special interest groups used to hate vote by mail because older Republican voters used to do vote by mail.
[00:19:18]  Right.
[00:19:19]  Well, and one thing we're not saying is that in our current iterations, it doesn't skew Democrats.
[00:19:24]  It does.
[00:19:24]  It does still mail-in ballots skew Democrat.
[00:19:27]  We know that.
[00:19:27]  That's not now, but that's not what we're saying.
[00:19:29]  But it's not 80-20.
[00:19:30]  Yeah.
[00:19:31]  So yes, mail-in ballots overwhelmingly skew Democrat, like Election Day skew Republicans, but they were not all from Democrats.
[00:19:38]  Know that 64.7% of those votes were from registered Democrats, 23.7 from Republicans, and 11.6 from nonpartisan or other parties.
[00:19:47]  What does this mean in simple arithmetic?
[00:19:50]  And so, basically, what they do is they break, Daniel breaks it down in this, Horwitz, Cruncher Numbers, and shows that Biden won 95% of returned Democrat mail-in votes, 21% of returned Republican votes, and 80% of returned independent votes, and he still wouldn't have come up short of the margin that he needed for victory.
[00:20:08]  So, let me play that back.
[00:20:09]  He would have had to get 95% of Democrats, 21% of Republicans, which does not happen.
[00:20:15]  Remember, folks, Donald Trump is the most popular Republican president among Republicans in modern American political history.
[00:20:22]  It's like a 95 or 96 percent approval rating.
[00:20:25]  He is not losing 21 percent of the Republican vote, nor is he going to lose 80 percent of the independent vote.
[00:20:32]  The independent vote in Pennsylvania, we know, skewed just slightly Democrat.
[00:20:37]  In Pennsylvania, according to exit polls, Biden won 52 percent of independents.
[00:20:42]  He did not win 80 percent in the mail-in vote.
[00:20:45]  All that said, he still would have lost the Pennsylvania election had he won 95% of Dems, 21% of Republicans, and 80% of Independents.
[00:20:55]  So, the fact that Biden somehow made up the margin of victory after Election Day in mail-in voted mail-in ballots is so hard to believe.
[00:21:06]  It's incomprehensible.
[00:21:09]  Technically, nothing's impossible, but it's way past implausible.
[00:21:13]  So, I mean, this is just part of his analysis that, you know, again, I don't want to steal all of Daniel's thunder from the show on Wednesday, but this is part of a growing case of irregularities.
[00:21:25]  So, Andrew, what's it going to take for a judge to say this is so obviously stolen and this does not make sense?
[00:21:31]  Can this stuff hold up in a court of law?
[00:21:33]  I mean, I think a lot of this stuff can hold up in a court of law.
[00:21:36]  I mean, here's the truth, folks, and this is why whether it's lockdowns or whether it's voter integrity, the base has to rise up and create so much noise, and they have to rally and they have to get in the streets and they have to call and email and cause a fuss.
[00:21:52]  This is not a time to sit back and accept it from your betters.
[00:21:56]  This is a time to make noise and fight back.
[00:21:59]  Why?
[00:21:59]  Because judges are human, judges are human beings just like everybody else.
[00:22:03]  And if they know that there's pressure on them to get to the bottom of it, they're much more likely to get behind this.
[00:22:10]  They're not robots.
[00:22:11]  They are influenced by public opinion.
[00:22:12]  They're influenced by potential backlashes.
[00:22:15]  They know if they have the backing of the people.
[00:22:17]  And no matter how much they try to convince you otherwise, they are absolutely open to public pressure.
[00:22:23]  And so here's what I'm failing to understand, though, which is this case is actually growing in merit.
[00:22:31]  Meaning, I have not heard strong counter-arguments from the non-voter fraud community, which is the left and the Democrats.
[00:22:39]  We're seeing more pundits, Andrew.
[00:22:41]  We're seeing more cable news coverage actually going towards this.
[00:22:44]  Which is the opposite of what people would think, right?
[00:22:46]  You and I were texting last night.
[00:22:48]  We're seeing more people.
[00:22:49]  Mark Levin dedicated a whole hour to Stephen.
[00:22:51]  Steve Hilton, same.
[00:22:52]  Yeah.
[00:22:52]  And weeks ago, Steve was not touching this issue.
[00:22:55]  And Steve's a great friend.
[00:22:56]  It's not about Steve.
[00:22:56]  No, Steve's a fantastic human being.
[00:22:58]  But now he's in the fight.
[00:23:00]  Why?
[00:23:01]  Because the evidence is mounting.
[00:23:02]  The smoking gun video out of Georgia, even though Rauffensberger, the situation.
[00:23:06]  What is Raffensperger's response to that, though?
[00:23:08]  Oh, it's saying that it's common.
[00:23:10]  This is common practice.
[00:23:11]  It's common just to have ballots underneath a table.
[00:23:13]  Commentators like Eric Erickson are saying the same thing.
[00:23:16]  But I'm actually curious.
[00:23:18]  I'm not trying to be overly antagonistic.
[00:23:20]  What is the explanation?
[00:23:21]  That's the explanation that we're all hearing: is that this is common practice.
[00:23:25]  That's like saying murder is common in Chicago.
[00:23:27]  That doesn't mean that it's exactly.
[00:23:29]  So the thing that they cannot explain in this video is why were the media told that counting had stopped?
[00:23:37]  Why were the observers removed?
[00:23:39]  Why was the Republicans not in the room?
[00:23:43]  So there was a lot of questions that remain to be answered here.
[00:23:47]  And these are tens of thousands of votes that are unaccounted for.
[00:23:50]  No, no, no, but just so I understand Eric Erickson's argument and the kind of people that are defending the system, they think it's okay that someone wheels in ballots, hides them under a desk, and then just leaves them, kicks everybody out, and then starts counting them after hours.
[00:24:06]  And then it just happens to correspond that tweet from Eric Trump that we saw, the time stamp on the video, if you look at when the vote spike happened in Georgia, that was statistically, again, highly implausible, they tend to correlate.
[00:24:22]  Now, is it just those ballots?
[00:24:25]  Probably not.

=== Complicated Legal Maneuvering (09:39) ===

[00:24:26]  Is it a combination of a couple things?
[00:24:27]  Absolutely.
[00:24:28]  The fact that they line up is highly suspicious.
[00:24:30]  And so it was some people are saying they're not suitcases, but storage containers.
[00:24:36]  So if they say this happens all the time, do we have footage of this happening somewhere else then?
[00:24:42]  In state farm arena?
[00:24:43]  No, you know, I don't think so.
[00:24:46]  So, but then why wouldn't we have footage of this happening somewhere else?
[00:24:49]  Well, the fact that they were hidden and removed after they told everybody to get out, and we've got the GOP chair in Georgia saying that, yes, we were told the county stopped, the counting had stopped, and that we were kicked out of the room.
[00:25:00]  But Eric's not dumb.
[00:25:01]  Eric Erickson.
[00:25:02]  No, he's a smart guy.
[00:25:03]  How does he come to a conclusion that this is okay?
[00:25:05]  I'm just trying to see it.
[00:25:07]  What am I missing here?
[00:25:08]  I think that it's confirmation bias on his point.
[00:25:11]  I mean, I think he's a really smart guy, but I think, you know, that he's been, he calls himself an election attorney, a lawyer.
[00:25:20]  And so, you know, he knows a lot, but one of his main arguments is that these machines are not connected to the internet.
[00:25:27]  There was a video that he put out on Instagram a while, like last week, saying that's not connected to the internet.
[00:25:31]  He must have repeated that line 10 times.
[00:25:34]  But the truth is there's very valid backed up by sworn affidavits that say, no, these mobile machines were connected to the internet.
[00:25:42]  And then there's this highly suspicious update that happened in Georgia on the Dominion voting systems.
[00:25:47]  So, and, you know, and there's a report out of Ware County in Georgia as well that's alleging that there was some vote tabulation issues.
[00:25:56]  That may or may not be a real thing.
[00:25:58]  Again, Eric Erickson contends that that is not something that we need to get all up in arms about that it was actually Rauffensperger and that kind of whole group in Georgia.
[00:26:10]  The bottom line is we need signature verification.
[00:26:13]  Well, signature verification would be great, but we're dealing with five or six different things.
[00:26:16]  Yeah.
[00:26:16]  Which is where did these ballots come from?
[00:26:18]  And is it really customary practice?
[00:26:21]  She hid them under the table.
[00:26:22]  It'd be one thing if you kind of just left them open there and everyone went through it.
[00:26:26]  But you kind of just pull them out as if you're executing a heist.
[00:26:30]  Well, and if it was customary, why do you remove everybody?
[00:26:34]  Why are there not some of the things that?
[00:26:35]  See, they said that didn't happen, though.
[00:26:36]  Yeah.
[00:26:37]  And this is where the Bureau or the Georgia Attorney General need to look into this.
[00:26:40]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:26:41]  At the end of the day, we're all relying on secondhand information here.
[00:26:44]  But, you know, we've had Rudy Giuliani on this show.
[00:26:46]  And by the way, he does have coronavirus and he's in the hospital.
[00:26:50]  Apparently, he's doing really well.
[00:26:51]  And we're praying for Rudy, of course.
[00:26:53]  But ultimately, I think the overwhelming mountain of evidence, whether it's the statistical improbabilities that we see in Pennsylvania, by the way, one thing I failed to mention in Pennsylvania, this whole day of versus mail-in ballot, not only would he had to, Joe Biden would have had to win a ridiculous percentage of votes that just does not make any sense.
[00:27:18]  If you assume that the exit polling was at all accurate, Biden would have still lost by 213,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
[00:27:26]  Had the rest of the votes followed exit polling trends, he still would have lost by over 200,000.
[00:27:31]  Remember, Trump won this state by just over 40,000 in 2016.
[00:27:35]  And he well overperformed his votes.
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[00:28:35]  Producer Andrew, what's going on with Alito in Pennsylvania?
[00:28:38]  Right.
[00:28:38]  So what's at issue here is something called the safe harbor deadline, right?
[00:28:43]  So a little backstory.
[00:28:46]  Representative Mike Kelly has filed an election challenge.
[00:28:51]  Originally, Alito had ordered that the defendants provide a response by December 9th.
[00:29:00]  And this all gets into some sort of complicated legal maneuvering, right?
[00:29:05]  So theoretically, and this is what Jenna Ellis has alleged here on this show, is that electors, the Constitution is clear, that the states appoint the electors.
[00:29:15]  The electors vote for president.
[00:29:19]  Okay.
[00:29:20]  Now, since the drafting of the Constitution, states have formulated all these laws and there's calendar dates that have been put on the calendar.
[00:29:28]  Now, Phil Klein, who you also had on this show from the Amistad Project, former Attorney General of Kansas, has said the only date that matters is January 20th.
[00:29:37]  That is in the Constitution.
[00:29:38]  That is in the Constitution.
[00:29:40]  Now, we also have the dates of December 8th and December 14th.
[00:29:45]  This is when electors get appointed and then seated.
[00:29:49]  But those dates are arbitrary.
[00:29:50]  Those dates are arbitrary to a point.
[00:29:53]  And this is what is getting, this is what's behind this particular, what we think is behind moving this up from the 9th to the 8th.
[00:30:02]  So he had previously, Alito, Justice Alito, who again was appointed by President George W. Bush, who had some good ones and Alito and some not so good ones, had previously ordered that the state's lawyers respond to Kelly, who's the Republican representative, Mike Kelly, suit by December 9th, a day after the safe harbor date, which would mean that Congress cannot challenge any electors already named in accordance with state law.
[00:30:28]  The law frees up states from challenges as long as it settles all legal issues and certifies results prior to the Electoral College meeting.
[00:30:35]  Okay, so that's the key here.
[00:30:36]  The law in Pennsylvania frees up states from challenges as long as it settles legal issues and certifies results prior to the Electoral College meeting.
[00:30:46]  So that would be on the 9th.
[00:30:48]  So by Justice Alito moving this up to the 8th, he simplified the legal challenges that are possible here.
[00:30:55]  So if he rules in this emergency injunction that actually Pennsylvania violated the state's Constitution and that actors besides the state legislature change the electoral rules, if he does that on the 8th, well then by the 9th, there's still legal challenges pending.
[00:31:16]  They can't seat electors.
[00:31:18]  This is a massive, massive change.
[00:31:20]  So if that ends up happening.
[00:31:21]  Yeah, if these Kelly wins his case, Mike Kelly, who represented Mike Kelly, if they win.
[00:31:29]  And they're arguing about the same thing.
[00:31:31]  This is before the Supreme Court right now.
[00:31:33]  Yeah.
[00:31:34]  This is an emergency.
[00:31:35]  So Alito is in charge of Pennsylvania.
[00:31:37]  This is an emergency injunction that the state of Pennsylvania has filed.
[00:31:42]  And in as much as that's concerned, if he rules in the favor of Pennsylvania, Mike Kelly on the 8th, there's still legal challenges.
[00:31:52]  They don't get to seat electors.
[00:31:53]  So Alito solely rules on this or the entire United States Supreme Court?
[00:31:57]  I think this is going to be an Alito, and then I think there becomes a larger court ruling that comes into play at that point.
[00:32:03]  So Alito has to grant relief relief.
[00:32:08]  And if he doesn't, then that's not good.
[00:32:10]  I'm a son of a lawyer, District Attorney.
[00:32:12]  Yeah.
[00:32:12]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:32:13]  So if he doesn't, that's not good.
[00:32:14]  It's an emergency injunctive relief.
[00:32:17]  If this fails at the next step, it's going to be bad news.
[00:32:22]  I mean, there's no way around it.
[00:32:23]  But if it succeeds, then it sort of makes way for a lot of other things to happen in all of these different states that are...
[00:32:30]  And we have...
[00:32:31]  If it succeeds, then it could set a precedent.
[00:32:34]  I mean, but every district is overseen by a different.
[00:32:36]  It gives momentum, okay?
[00:32:37]  Again, and what we talked about, how the judges have, they're human beings and they see what's going on in the culture.
[00:32:42]  This will force CBS and NBC and CNN and Washington Post.
[00:32:47]  And they'll largely push it.
[00:32:49]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:32:50]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:32:50]  I mean, Justice Alito is a solidly conservative justice.
[00:32:54]  So on the one hand, a lot of people aren't going to be surprised by this.
[00:32:58]  But he's not a Trump appointee.
[00:32:59]  So not that it would matter.
[00:33:02]  But if he grants relief, then potentially the electors could not be seated if the other lawsuits were.
[00:33:09]  Right, because under state law, they are, you know, they have to have every legal challenge behind them in order to seat the electors.
[00:33:20]  This would mean it's not behind them.
[00:33:21]  They're still dealing with a legal challenge.
[00:33:22]  That's the big deal.
[00:33:23]  Yeah.
[00:33:24]  And we're going to be covering that live.
[00:33:25]  Yeah, well, just after.
[00:33:27]  As it happens.
[00:33:27]  Yeah, just after.
[00:33:29]  And so who's arguing then?
[00:33:31]  This is Mike Kelly.
[00:33:32]  I think this is, you know, this is the House of Representatives there versus the state's lawyer.
[00:33:39]  Got it.
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