The Charlie Kirk Show - This Poll Worker Witnessed Rampant Ballot Fraud in Detroit
Aired: 2020-11-14
Duration: 18:31


=== Michigan Whistleblower Story (02:48) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey everybody, exclusively here on the Charlie Kirk Show, we have a Michigan whistleblower, Jen Lindsay Cooper, who saw some things that could only be described as illegal happening in the vote counting process in Detroit, Michigan.
[00:00:13]  She's a friend and a friend of the show, and she is here to tell her story.
[00:00:18]  And it's horrifying what she describes.
[00:00:20]  It is incredible how she saw people filling in ballots that were not military ballots in a way that could only be described as fraudulent.
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[00:02:16]  Hey, everybody, welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:02:18]  We are joined today with Jen Lindsey Cooper.
[00:02:23]  Jen, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
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[00:02:26]  Tell us what you've been seeing from the front lines.
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=== Improper Ballot Execution (04:56) ===

[00:02:48]  So I was in the city of Waterford and trained to count absentee votes and did so on election day for about 18 hours.
[00:02:56]  So the protocols there were extremely rigid with the arching message.
[00:03:05]  We want no semblance of impropriety.
[00:03:07]  We were sequestered in a room.
[00:03:09]  And I paired with Artner, who I spent the entire 18 hours with to the point where we had to actually go to the restroom together.
[00:03:16]  No internet.
[00:03:17]  Our phones were taken and put in black box of some kind.
[00:03:20]  And so, you know, I definitely had a hardcore experience with how our absentee system works, how it needs to work, how it has to work.
[00:03:29]  And at the sort of the tail end, we also did the military votes, which are done with your Democrat partner and a supervisor.
[00:03:36]  The ballots are checked out one at a time, which maybe on a larger scale is different.
[00:03:42]  And then they are executed very carefully.
[00:03:45]  They look a very specific way.
[00:03:48]  So when I got home at one in the morning, I slept for a few hours.
[00:03:53]  And we received some messaging from different channels that they needed some help with challenging down in Detroit at the center there.
[00:04:01]  And I went on down there.
[00:04:02]  So that was nothing like my experience in Waterford.
[00:04:07]  And I saw quite a bit of impropriety on the floor there.
[00:04:15]  Can you help us just with specifics of what you saw when you went down to Detroit?
[00:04:20]  And you have an affidavit here that you signed that details some of that.
[00:04:24]  Just help walk us through that.
[00:04:26]  Right.
[00:04:27]  So the affidavit is specific to my experience watching a military count, a military duplication is what they were saying they were doing.
[00:04:37]  So counter will come up to get blank ballots.
[00:04:40]  Like I said, in Waterford, this was done one at a time here.
[00:04:43]  We would kind of gather there.
[00:04:45]  So someone that was taking blank ballots would be followed, usually by a challenger, just to, they're very important, and they would carry them back to the table.
[00:04:55]  So in that specific instance, I watched these ballots go back to a table, table 16, and they were just sat there.
[00:05:04]  There was no one doing anything with them.
[00:05:06]  They were just sitting there.
[00:05:07]  So we're watching them sit there, very unusual right there, you know, not okay in.
[00:05:11]  The next thing that happened was the lady that came over and took them and placed them in.
[00:05:18]  That was marked problem, ballot challenging.
[00:05:22]  Hey, you know, excuse me, you know, polite process.
[00:05:26]  What are you doing with these blank ballots why?
[00:05:28]  Why are they in the the problem?
[00:05:29]  You know what's what's going to happen here.
[00:05:31]  So at that point you get that the Democratic challengers, at that point, from my experience was a very tall man came over and started to, you know, ask her, um, is this Karen bothering you?
[00:05:47]  Do you feel safe with her?
[00:05:49]  Um, and you start to experience this.
[00:05:52]  Wait a minute.
[00:05:53]  You know, this is just a process, you know, sort of the, the teaching of our counters to personalize um, this like it creates hostility, it's like it's not hostile.
[00:06:03]  What are you doing with the blank ballots?
[00:06:05]  And the problem, you know, and she was a little uh, flustered too, and so she picked those up.
[00:06:10]  And then the next thing, you know, these five to seven blanks are being tucked underneath what looks like maybe a poll book or just some lined paper, and so this whole thing is is very um improper right, it's very improper.
[00:06:27]  So um, I again.
[00:06:28]  You know what's going on with these um, i'm waiting for my supervisor.
[00:06:33]  We're going to do militaries right so okay, she's joined by two women um, and one of them pulls a standard long ballot from a pile.
[00:06:44]  Now it's important to understand the way a military vote comes to you.
[00:06:50]  It comes in packaging like all kinds of different packaging.
[00:06:52]  Parvon, you know tape around it comes from someone serving, so it comes to you and you take a letter over and you open it.
[00:07:01]  There was no packaging now inside of a military Ballot, everyone I saw, is an 8x10 piece of paper that that service person has signed, along with an 8x10 Xerox of a ballot.
[00:07:15]  And this is what you're duplicating.
[00:07:17]  These things go together.
[00:07:18]  You look at the signature in front of another party member and a supervisor.
[00:07:24]  So, what I was witnessing, a ballot, one calling it out to the other, and calling the three that I saw executed called for Joe Biden and Democrats down the line.
[00:07:34]  So, the whole thing was wildly improper.
[00:07:38]  I don't believe they were even military votes of any kind, in which case, this would be manufacturing a vote.

=== Witnessing Voting Irregularities (10:46) ===

[00:07:44]  It was just completely improper.
[00:07:46]  So, on the floor, the recourse that you have there is to take notes.
[00:07:50]  And there were some attorneys on the floor.
[00:07:52]  You would call them over and they would just observe with you and say, you know, take a note.
[00:07:56]  The meantime, the Democratic challengers that were around were just really there to cause hostility, dissension, distraction.
[00:08:06]  I never saw one challenge anything.
[00:08:10]  So, you know, all of that was just very disturbing and nowhere near creating no semblance of impropriety.
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[00:09:33]  So you say here in line nine, they filled in ballots.
[00:09:39]  Is that right?
[00:09:41]  Yeah, that's what it appears to me.
[00:09:43]  I can't, you know, I can't speak to what they were actually doing, but when you duplicate a ballot, right, when you're going to duplicate a military ballot, you get the, you started from the very beginning in the letter that the serviceman or woman sent in.
[00:09:57]  There was none of that.
[00:09:58]  So they were saying we're doing these militaries.
[00:10:00]  They're really just pulling a long regular ballot from a pile and reading it out to someone who's transcribing it onto yet a new ballot.
[00:10:09]  And that ballot goes into the country.
[00:10:12]  The military service had no military ballot.
[00:10:16]  And, you know, what was it?
[00:10:20]  I don't know.
[00:10:21]  It was not correct military process.
[00:10:24]  Believe me, I mean, you do this for long enough, you understand the process very well.
[00:10:30]  And that was not any, there was no military ballot that I saw.
[00:10:34]  And three of them were processed in front of me.
[00:10:37]  The other blank ballots just disappeared.
[00:10:40]  So they were probably, so based on your observation, these were non-military ballots that were being duplicated or they were just filling them in.
[00:10:51]  That's illegal, right?
[00:10:53]  I would say that that would be very illegal.
[00:10:55]  But I thought you said there were lawyers around.
[00:10:59]  Why did no one stop this?
[00:11:01]  Right.
[00:11:01]  So the lawyers on the floor, you can raise your hand and summon a lawyer.
[00:11:04]  And basically they just tell you you need to fill out these documents, which do turn into affidavits, right?
[00:11:11]  But and I sought out where I needed to go to make sure that this information was properly transcribed the way you can see it now, the way it appears in the suit, because that's what I saw.
[00:11:26]  It wasn't quite.
[00:11:27]  There were other things that I observed on the floor that was really to me the most alarming.
[00:11:32]  And there are many, many affidavits, the people that were watching scanners, had different experiences than mine.
[00:11:41]  That was my experience.
[00:11:43]  I saw lots of chain of custody of ballot, just basically non-existent, a woman, a supervisor, really just walking around with one in her hand.
[00:11:55]  I never saw the exterior envelope of the absentee ballot, which is also a very important part of this process.
[00:12:01]  When you receive ballots at a counting table, the first thing you do is balance them.
[00:12:06]  You balance them in their exterior envelope, meaning here's 100 ballots.
[00:12:11]  Great.
[00:12:12]  We're going to count them with my opposing party partner and make sure that they are 100 ballots before we even look at them.
[00:12:19]  So I didn't see any exterior packaging.
[00:12:21]  There were loose ballots in the secrecy league.
[00:12:23]  No exterior packaging.
[00:12:25]  That stuff is, we save that.
[00:12:26]  That has to be rebundled.
[00:12:28]  Once the ballot comes out and you tear off the top in a series and it goes to counting, we still save those exteriors, of course.
[00:12:36]  So I didn't see any of those anywhere.
[00:12:39]  And so it's not incorrect to conjecture that these might have been just civilian ballots that they were filling in?
[00:12:50]  Or they could have been just dummies.
[00:12:53]  I have no idea, but they weren't militaries.
[00:12:57]  I don't know where ballot A was coming to say it was a military ballot and turning into a duplicate ballot that was going in a counting machine.
[00:13:06]  But only if it was a military ballot would it be correct and okay to fill it in.
[00:13:13]  Is that right?
[00:13:14]  Is that in essence?
[00:13:16]  That's my experience.
[00:13:17]  I haven't duplicated any other type of ballot.
[00:13:21]  And they told me when I challenged on duplicate, you know, numerous times that they were doing militaries.
[00:13:26]  We're waiting for my supervisor.
[00:13:27]  We're going to execute.
[00:13:28]  They didn't use the word execute.
[00:13:30]  I used the word execute a military ballot because that's what I was trained.
[00:13:32]  We're going to do the military ballots.
[00:13:35]  Day after the election day, which is the day I was there on 11-4, it was, you know, the police came in, they boarded up the windows.
[00:13:44]  You know, this was happening at this time.
[00:13:47]  And I think that they were definitely working to get the Republican challengers out of there.
[00:13:55]  I know I left about four o'clock, not wanting to be anywhere near there at dark because it was very contentious and scary.
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[00:14:43]  Yeah, and so they were making an environment for Republican poll watchers that they did not want to be there, almost pseudo, very dangerous, right?
[00:14:52]  And intimidating and harassing.
[00:14:55]  And so can you contrast the experience you had in the Waterford area?
[00:14:59]  I think you said Waterford versus the one at TCF Center.
[00:15:04]  Oh, it was a one at 180.
[00:15:06]  You know, it was so very secure.
[00:15:08]  We were very sequestered.
[00:15:09]  We were, you know, it was all honor.
[00:15:11]  It was an honor.
[00:15:12]  There was no hostility or contention.
[00:15:14]  You know, the gal I spent the day with, you know, we became buddies.
[00:15:19]  We were all there to serve this country in our voting process.
[00:15:24]  It was at nothing, had no appearance of what I saw downtown.
[00:15:28]  And that's part of the reason it was so disturbing and so upsetting to see this disrespectful people to each other, of our processes, of our checks and balances, and the things that we have in place to guard our election process so willy-nilly.
[00:15:47]  And I feel that some of that was intentional and distracting and that it was created.
[00:15:54]  And there were a lot of great people down there doing the same thing I was trying to do in Waterford, which is serve.
[00:16:00]  But it was completely different.
[00:16:04]  Immediately you had a sense of what's going on here.
[00:16:07]  What is going on here?
[00:16:08]  How is this happening?
[00:16:11]  How is this taking place?
[00:16:12]  So the last question I'll have is this, is you saw how one process was done and the second process.
[00:16:18]  Just based on the evidence that you saw and just the feel of it, does it feel as if there was something nefarious happening at TCF Center?
[00:16:27]  That there was just something that wasn't exact, that there might have been some cutting of the corners and dare we say some cheating.
[00:16:35]  Affidavit if you don't feel that things were wrong and wrong against wrong against our country, wrong against every person that votes, no matter what party you're in, you want to pay attention to this.
[00:16:45]  No, I would not be coming forward.
[00:16:49]  It felt very nefarious.
[00:16:50]  It felt like there was all kinds of different things going on, but you weren't really sure.
[00:16:54]  So you had to go to where you had knowledge.
[00:16:56]  And there were places and things that I saw where I'm like, huh, this seems weird.
[00:17:00]  Let me call over someone that was here yesterday.
[00:17:02]  Is this normal?
[00:17:03]  You know, so it was, it was at every turn.
[00:17:05]  You know, it was, it was the whole feeling, but it was the actual things that people saw that were trained to look.
[00:17:13]  Yeah, 100%.
[00:17:15]  I hate to say it.
[00:17:17]  It's very sad.
[00:17:18]  Well, I want to thank you for wanting to be a poll watcher.
[00:17:21]  And just for everyone listening and watching, you wanted to do the right thing.
[00:17:25]  You poll watched in a very just normal place to do it where it wasn't chaos.
[00:17:30]  Then you went down to the TCF.
[00:17:32]  Counted in a very, in my city.
[00:17:34]  So I have the experience of being a counter.
[00:17:37]  Like the people that are on the floor that I was watching, I did their job.
[00:17:41]  So I know.
[00:17:42]  And it was just like a different country almost.
[00:17:45]  Yep.
[00:17:45]  Yeah.
[00:17:46]  Well, and that, and then you were intimidated and harassed, and you probably saw voter fraud right in front of you, which inexplicably ballots were being filled out with no explanation at all whatsoever.
[00:17:58]  So I want to thank you for your commitment to our country.
[00:18:01]  And, you know, we're going to keep looking into this and just hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.
[00:18:06]  Thank you, Charlie.
[00:18:07]  Thanks for all you guys are doing.
[00:18:08]  You bet.
[00:18:08]  God bless.
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