The Charlie Kirk Show - Ilhan the Ingrate, Scammy Tammy + Kanye Unleashed
Aired: 2020-07-09
Duration: 41:58


=== Kanye West Update (14:50) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey, everybody.
[00:00:01]  Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we give you your Kanye West update.
[00:00:04]  You do not want to miss it.
[00:00:05]  It is pretty something.
[00:00:07]  Let's put it that way.
[00:00:09]  We also go into the leading candidate for the vice presidency for Joe Biden, Tammy Duckworth from Illinois, someone that I know quite a lot about, and we'll dive into that.
[00:00:19]  We debunk one of the greatest leftist tactics, which is the sit down and shut up because you are not a certain skin color tactic.
[00:00:26]  And we also unpack for you Elon Omar, who just seems to continue to want to bash and criticize the United States of America.
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[00:01:52]  Kanye West.
[00:01:54]  He's made a couple of headlines in the last week.
[00:01:57]  We've actually had a couple episodes dedicated to Kanye West.
[00:02:00]  I actually might be one of the few political individuals that can say that I've spent time with Kanye West and President Trump in the last year and a half.
[00:02:09]  Not many people can say that.
[00:02:10]  So Kanye, of course, had the media and political world totally buzzing.
[00:02:15]  And look, again, we focused on this for good reason because I've had nothing but positive things to say about Kanye West.
[00:02:23]  And a lot of people have said, oh, he's running because he doesn't like Trump.
[00:02:26]  I didn't buy that for a second.
[00:02:28]  Kanye was not running because it was anti-Trump.
[00:02:31]  And in fact, today, an article came out.
[00:02:34]  I just laugh when I see this because it's so Kanye.
[00:02:37]  It was a four-hour interview with a Forbes reporter, okay?
[00:02:40]  It seems short, if you know Kanye.
[00:02:43]  It seems like a real short gallop in West World.
[00:02:48]  So he gave a four-hour interview to Randall Lane.
[00:02:52]  God bless his soul for having to condense four hours of Kanye West into an article.
[00:02:58]  Now, of course, Kanye's trending on Twitter.
[00:03:00]  We're going to go through this article.
[00:03:01]  I think some of it's actually brilliant.
[00:03:03]  Some of it is phenomenal.
[00:03:04]  And some of it is so needed to just the conversation and the zeitgeist all across the country.
[00:03:09]  And look, a lot of the articles that wrote it up are written by typical activist media.
[00:03:14]  And we always say activist media, not mainstream media, activist media personalities that pathologically and diabolically want to destroy Donald Trump and with it, destroy Western civilization.
[00:03:27]  So they all had this headline, Kanye is done with Trump, or Kanye dumps Trump.
[00:03:33]  And it's because of the headline that Forbes led with, which is, Kanye West says he's done with Trump, opens up about White House spid, damaging Biden and everything in between.
[00:03:42]  So look, Forbes is a respectable center-right outlet.
[00:03:46]  The article said nothing like that at all whatsoever.
[00:03:49]  It wasn't the ethos of the article.
[00:03:51]  It wasn't the spirit of the article.
[00:03:53]  It wasn't the foundation of the article.
[00:03:55]  This is completely and totally pathologically false.
[00:04:00]  It's 100% incorrect.
[00:04:02]  And this is one of the things that's wrong with headline culture, by the way.
[00:04:05]  It's all about the headline, and no one actually goes deeper.
[00:04:09]  It's all about the owning your friend on Facebook or social media or on a text message chain of just posting the article.
[00:04:17]  And if they just see the headline, somehow it proves your point.
[00:04:20]  Well, maybe you should spend the extra three minutes or 10 minutes to actually read the article.
[00:04:25]  Well, thankfully here on the Charlie Kirk show, and thanks to those of you that support us on a monthly basis on CharlieKirk.com/slash support, you allow us to actually read the articles.
[00:04:35]  Okay, so let's get down to the actual Kanye West interview that broke the internet.
[00:04:39]  And look, I think I know what Kanye's getting at here.
[00:04:42]  I actually can speak from personal experience here.
[00:04:45]  He is an extraordinary creative.
[00:04:48]  Let's just say he thrives in formats where he's able to have free flow of consciousness.
[00:04:56]  And let's just be completely honest about this.
[00:04:59]  He's an unbelievably gifted musician.
[00:05:01]  He just is.
[00:05:02]  His latest Christian album has done more for the gospel and for the kingdom of Jesus Christ than most megachurch pastors could ever dream of.
[00:05:08]  In fact, Kanye West is more bold and more courageous and more unafraid than almost any Christian pastor than I have ever met, absent Rob McCoy or Jack Hibbs or Jerry Falwell Jr., who's not a pastor but a Christian leader from Liberty University.
[00:05:23]  Those three might be the most courageous individuals that I can think of absent Kanye West.
[00:05:31]  So you actually read the interview.
[00:05:33]  It's actually really clear that he's anti-Biden, not anti-Trump.
[00:05:36]  So here's just some of the top line points of interest.
[00:05:40]  First of all, he does say that he's running for president in 2020 under a new banner, the birthday party, with guidance from Elon Musk and an obscure vice presidential candidate.
[00:05:51]  He's already chosen.
[00:05:52]  Quote, like anything I've ever done in my life, says West, I'm doing to win.
[00:05:56]  Again, I'm not laughing because I'm making a mockery of it.
[00:05:58]  We should learn that anyone running for president can become president of the United States.
[00:06:01]  That's not why I'm doing it.
[00:06:02]  I'm laughing because I know Kanye and I could just see him saying this.
[00:06:05]  That's why I'm laughing.
[00:06:08]  Some people say, oh, he's no longer supporting Trump.
[00:06:11]  He said, quote, I'm taking off the red hat in this interview.
[00:06:14]  Okay, well, you go deeper.
[00:06:16]  He actually has very fond things to say about Donald Trump.
[00:06:19]  He says he's never voted before in his life.
[00:06:21]  That would be a first.
[00:06:22]  I think that would be the first president ever to not be registered or to vote.
[00:06:27]  He said he was sick with COVID-19 in February.
[00:06:30]  He said he's very suspicious of the coronavirus vaccine because he said it could be the mark of the beast.
[00:06:36]  And he said once he wins the White House, he will organize the White House off of the secret country Wakanda in Black Panther.
[00:06:45]  West denies that this is a publicity stunt for his upcoming album.
[00:06:49]  For those of you that are saying, oh, Charlie, why are you spending so much time on this?
[00:06:52]  Just so you understand, Kanye West is probably one of the most accomplished, if not the most accomplished musician in the modern era and definitely someone who has done more in the fashion, media, and influence industry than anyone I can think of.
[00:07:05]  This is what Kanye says in the interview.
[00:07:07]  It's pretty incredible.
[00:07:08]  I'm not saying Trump's in my way.
[00:07:10]  He may be part of my way.
[00:07:12]  And Joe Biden, like, come on then, please.
[00:07:14]  You know, Obama's special.
[00:07:16]  Trump's special.
[00:07:17]  We say Kanye West is special.
[00:07:19]  America needs special people that lead.
[00:07:21]  Bill Clinton's special.
[00:07:22]  Joe Biden, not special.
[00:07:24]  So I got to do a billboard campaign at Turning Point Action.
[00:07:28]  This is Joe Biden, not special, Kanye West.
[00:07:31]  I just, I think it'd be brilliant.
[00:07:32]  It's just such a perfect Kanye West quote.
[00:07:35]  Now, some of the most scathing remarks Kanye West reserved for Democrats.
[00:07:39]  Now, mind you, the activist media, Don Lemon and the grifting conmen, had nothing to say about this.
[00:07:45]  Kanye West, one of the most accomplished black rappers, is signaling that there's something happening in the black community, something real, something substantial.
[00:07:53]  Kanye said this.
[00:07:54]  That is a form of racism and white supremacy and white control to say that all black people need to be Democrat and to assume that me running is splitting the vote.
[00:08:03]  All that information is being charged up on social media platforms by Democrats.
[00:08:08]  And Democrats used to tell me the same Democrats that have threatened me, by the way, the reason why this is the first day I registered a vote is because I was scared.
[00:08:15]  I was told that if I voted on Trump, my music career would be over.
[00:08:19]  I was threatened into being in one party.
[00:08:20]  I was threatened as a celebrity into being in one party.
[00:08:23]  I was threatened as a black man into the Democrat Party.
[00:08:26]  And that's what the Democrats are doing emotionally to my people, threatening them to the point where this white man can tell a black man, if you don't vote for me, you're not black.
[00:08:34]  Boom.
[00:08:34]  That right there should have been the headline.
[00:08:37]  Right there, Kanye West, the headline should have been, Joe Biden thinks I'm not black because I'm not going to support him.
[00:08:43]  That's what a fair headline would have been.
[00:08:45]  Not that he's dumping Trump.
[00:08:46]  It's just not the ethos of the article at all.
[00:08:49]  Kanye said, I would run as a Republican if Trump wasn't there.
[00:08:52]  I'll run as an independent if Trump is there.
[00:08:55]  So basically, Kanye is saying he's more Republican than Democrat.
[00:08:59]  That's a really big headline, everybody.
[00:09:01]  Kanye's never said this before.
[00:09:03]  Kanye also said, Trump is the closest president we've had in years to allowing God to still be part of the conversation.
[00:09:09]  Huge.
[00:09:09]  Now, mind you, Randall Lane did make the connection, good for him, where he said, he also admits that it's okay with siphoning off black votes and the Democrat nominee thus helping Trump, end quote.
[00:09:20]  And Kanye said directly this: I'm not denying it.
[00:09:23]  I just told you, to say that the black vote is Democrat is a form of racism and white supremacy.
[00:09:28]  Now, in another section, the reporter just gets it totally wrong.
[00:09:32]  He titles the section, How the Race Will Be Decided.
[00:09:35]  Here's what Kanye actually says: Kanye, let's see if the appointing is at 2020 or if it's 2024, because God appoints the president.
[00:09:42]  If I win in 2020, then it was God's appointment.
[00:09:45]  If I win in 2024, then that was God's appointment.
[00:09:48]  Kanye is a deeply spiritual person at this point in his life.
[00:09:52]  He has led worship services all across the country, from New York to Chicago to L.A. What Kanye is saying, what I believe he's saying, is in a Christian sense, he is leaving room for God to decide if he's supposed to be president in 2020 or 2024.
[00:10:06]  He's also leaving room for this to be Trump's years.
[00:10:08]  Kanye said this about Planned Parenthood.
[00:10:10]  Huge indictment of Planned Parenthood.
[00:10:13]  Quote, Planned Parenthoods have been placed inside cities by white supremacists to do the devil's work.
[00:10:18]  Kanye continued, I'm pro-life because I followed the word of the Bible.
[00:10:23]  Amen, Kanye West.
[00:10:24]  Amen.
[00:10:25]  Kanye also said, I'm focused on protecting America first with our great military.
[00:10:29]  Let's focus on ourselves first.
[00:10:32]  Kanye West Trump 2020, anybody?
[00:10:35]  I mean, he's basically using the Trump platform here, which is great.
[00:10:38]  God bless him.
[00:10:39]  More disruptive people out there that are echoing what is right and good in the world is a good thing.
[00:10:46]  Now, mind you, the reporter put a comma there, but I don't think that should be there.
[00:10:49]  Kanye is endorsing the America first doctrine of President Trump.
[00:10:53]  He is reusing it.
[00:10:55]  It's also interesting to see Kanye's take on vaccines.
[00:10:58]  Now, let me just tell you, it's a very complicated subject, and I think that it's wrong for the state to make mandates.
[00:11:04]  But I do think it's interesting that Kanye comes that far out against vaccines.
[00:11:09]  This is an argument that is likely to come full circle when a vaccine is eventually announced and approved by the government for public use.
[00:11:15]  Reports indicate that 60 to 75% of the population will need to take the vaccine for it to be effective in essentially stopping the spread of the Chinese virus.
[00:11:23]  Here's what Kanye had to say about it: quote, It's so many of our children that are being vaccinated and paralyzed.
[00:11:28]  So when they say that they're going to fix COVID with a vaccine, I'm extremely cautious.
[00:11:32]  That's the mark of the beast.
[00:11:33]  They want to put chips inside of us, trying to do all kinds of things to make it where we can't cross the gates of heaven.
[00:11:39]  I'm sorry when I say that they, the humans, that had the devil inside them.
[00:11:43]  And the sad thing is that the saddest thing is that they won't all make it to heaven and that there'll be some of us that do not make it.
[00:11:48]  Next question.
[00:11:50]  Well, that's awfully bold for Kanye West.
[00:11:54]  Interestingly enough, Elon Musk, who would be Kanye's pick to run NASA, has a company that literally puts chips inside people's heads.
[00:12:00]  It's called Neuralink.
[00:12:02]  And this is from just May 7th this year from the Daily Mail.
[00:12:05]  Elon Musk says his Neuralink company will do human brain implants within a year to help cure injuries, and the device could eventually enable symbiosis with artificial intelligence.
[00:12:14]  Elon Musk spoke on Joe Rogan's podcast about his company, Neuralink.
[00:12:17]  Musk also said that his firm will have a brain implant ready within a year.
[00:12:22]  The chip could fix brain injuries that would result in ailments of the body.
[00:12:25]  And Musk also noted that he could become a full brain interface in just 25 years.
[00:12:29]  That is something that is very horrifying.
[00:12:33]  So maybe this is an interesting tidbit, and not that there's much to make of it, but perhaps Kanye is not aware, or maybe it's just an ongoing debate between him and Elon Musk.
[00:12:42]  Now, here's Kanye on schools.
[00:12:43]  Now, listen very carefully.
[00:12:45]  Kanye is saying he loves the Constitution.
[00:12:47]  This is so refreshing versus the left-wing nonsense that we hear about deleting and destroying our history.
[00:12:52]  Kanye says the schools, the infrastructure was made for us to not truly be all we could be and just enough to work for the corporations that designed the school systems.
[00:13:01]  We're going to tear that up.
[00:13:03]  He means the system.
[00:13:04]  He means the corporate system.
[00:13:06]  Don't totally agree with that, but that's fine.
[00:13:08]  What we'll do here is not going to tear up the Constitution.
[00:13:10]  What we do is amend.
[00:13:11]  He does say some fondness for the Constitution.
[00:13:14]  Now, Kanye has some very firm words for TikTok.
[00:13:18]  He calls it torture porn.
[00:13:20]  Coming in hot, Kanye.
[00:13:22]  He also says this on Black History Month.
[00:13:25]  Oh, one other thing on Black History Month.
[00:13:27]  That is torture porn too.
[00:13:28]  Because when that comes up, we do what we see.
[00:13:31]  And by the way, if I get that vibe, that's the process that we're going to do a beautiful, uplifting, fun, creative process as a people, as America collectively, and show the world how great we are.
[00:13:40]  So here we go.
[00:13:41]  Black History Month.
[00:13:42]  Every year, they got to remind us about the fact that we couldn't vote.
[00:13:45]  They meaning white supremacy construct.
[00:13:47]  And I said that with the CT at the end.
[00:13:50]  I knew what I was, what I was talking about.
[00:13:52]  Our minds are so much more infinite than what's coming across TikTok or Instagram.
[00:13:56]  We're trying to influence our children and the next generation of who we are.
[00:13:59]  So this is a theme that we've been talking about a lot on the Charlie Kirk show.
[00:14:03]  And the bottom line is this: when Kanye finished with this, reinstating God's state, in God's country, the fear and the love of God in all schools and organizations, and you chill the fear and love of everything else.
[00:14:14]  So in closing, this, look, Kanye's a little wild.
[00:14:17]  We know that.
[00:14:17]  He's a little bit off the wall.
[00:14:18]  But there is a lot of wisdom in what he's saying.
[00:14:20]  It's asymmetrical.
[00:14:21]  It's disruptive.
[00:14:22]  It's not part of the Democrats' plan.
[00:14:25]  All of those things should be applauded.
[00:14:27]  All of those things should be appreciated.
[00:14:30]  All of those things should be understood.
[00:14:32]  Let's just play some tape of him from the Oval Office when he got condemned and ridiculed so much when he was wearing his MAGA hat.
[00:14:40]  Let's just do a little flashback to that.
[00:14:41]  Play tape.
[00:14:42]  It was something about when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman.
[00:14:46]  You made a Superman.
[00:14:48]  That's my favorite superhero.
[00:14:49]  And you made a Superman cake.

=== Middle America Strength (03:01) ===

[00:14:51]  For me, also as a guy that looks up to you, looks up to Rock Lauren, looks up to American industry guys.
[00:14:57]  Non-political, no bullshit.
[00:14:59]  Put the beep on it, however you want to do it, five seconds delay, and just goes in and gets it done.
[00:15:05]  Right now, you gave me the heart to go to Adidas because at Adidas, when I went in in 2015, we were a $14 million company losing $2 billion a year.
[00:15:15]  Now we have a $38 billion market cap.
[00:15:18]  It's called the Yeezy effect.
[00:15:21]  And I went to Casper.
[00:15:22]  We had a meeting in Chicago.
[00:15:24]  And I said, you have to bring manufacturing on shore, and it's shore into the core.
[00:15:33]  It's not about the borders, the core of Adidas.
[00:15:36]  And Chicago is the core of Middle America.
[00:15:39]  We have to make Middle America strong.
[00:15:41]  So I had the balls because I have enough balls to put on this hat.
[00:15:45]  I mean, this Adidas thing made me a billionaire.
[00:15:47]  And I could have lost $200 million walking away from that deal.
[00:15:51]  But even with that, I knew it was more important for me to take the chance of walking away from that deal than to have no fathers in Chicago with no hope.
[00:16:00]  This is the same Kanye West.
[00:16:01]  He's a Kanye West that does not like the trajectory of the country that would be run under Joe Biden and the BLM Inc. radicals.
[00:16:09]  I support free thinkers.
[00:16:11]  We have a shirt at Turning PointUSA, TPUSA.com, that says free thinkers only.
[00:16:16]  I'm a Kanye West fan.
[00:16:17]  I just am.
[00:16:18]  He's not doing this against Trump.
[00:16:20]  He has a lot of courage.
[00:16:21]  Sometimes he says some things I don't agree with.
[00:16:23]  You can be a fan of somebody just because you don't agree with every single thing they say.
[00:16:27]  Instead, I like the courage.
[00:16:28]  I like the conviction.
[00:16:30]  I like the confidence.
[00:16:31]  And yes, I like Kanye West.
[00:16:34]  So now we're about to get into someone who I don't like who is, let's just say, I have 10 words actually to describe her.
[00:16:39]  David Letterman style.
[00:16:41]  We can actually play the music probably.
[00:16:43]  Play music.
[00:16:57]  Yes, David Letterman style.
[00:16:58]  We'll get there in just a second.
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[00:17:34]  So now someone who deserves 10 words to describe David Letterman style play the music again.

=== Support Independent Research (04:27) ===

[00:17:53]  Elon Omar.
[00:17:55]  I mean, Elon Omar has been running her mouth lately.
[00:17:57]  And when Elon Omar is running her mouth, that means that anti-Americanism is on the run.
[00:18:02]  Anti-Americanism is growing.
[00:18:04]  Here's 10 words to describe Elon Omar.
[00:18:08]  She's despicable, ignorant, conniving, immoral, selfish, anti-American, corrupt, nefarious, vile, ingrate.
[00:18:18]  Now, why do I say all that?
[00:18:19]  Because just this week, she said something that was incredibly despicable.
[00:18:23]  Play tape.
[00:18:25]  As long as our economy and political systems prioritize profit without considering who is profiting, who is being shut out, we will perpetuate this inequality.
[00:18:41]  So we cannot stop at criminal justice system.
[00:18:44]  We must begin the work of dismantling the whole system of oppression wherever we find it.
[00:18:52]  That's right.
[00:18:53]  Just like Joe Biden, Elon Omar wants to fundamentally dismantle America's political and economic system.
[00:19:00]  The very same system, mind you, that allowed a Somali born refugee to rise through the ranks of our government and become one of the most recognizable congresswomen in America.
[00:19:10]  That does not sound like oppression to me at all.
[00:19:12]  And it certainly doesn't sound like something that would ever happen in a systemically racist country.
[00:19:18]  She does not love America, period.
[00:19:20]  She's given up on America.
[00:19:22]  I've said it before.
[00:19:24]  You do not seek to fundamentally transform that which you love.
[00:19:27]  You don't go to your wife or your girlfriend and you say, I love you.
[00:19:31]  Can you please fundamentally transform yourself?
[00:19:34]  Because if you fundamentally transform yourself, then I'll love you more.
[00:19:38]  You don't say that.
[00:19:38]  You don't fundamentally transform that which you have love for.
[00:19:43]  As my friend Marcia Blackburn tweeted, Elon Omar took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
[00:19:49]  And now she says she wants to completely and totally shred it.
[00:19:53]  What would her replacement system look like?
[00:19:55]  No matter what DNC Inc. tries to tell you, it looks a lot what Joe Biden's replacement America looks like, which I cover on the sister episode today, Joe Biden on trial.
[00:20:06]  Check out the sister episode, Joe Biden on Trial.
[00:20:09]  And mind you, this push to destroy America comes as a total bombshell story comes out, which reveals that her reelection campaign has spent $900,000 on a consulting firm.
[00:20:22]  Owned by who?
[00:20:23]  Her latest husband, her newest and latest, I don't know if it's her greatest husband, Tim Minette.
[00:20:29]  Estimates have her on track to spend $1.16 million with her husband in 2020 alone.
[00:20:34]  Explain to me how that's not a conflict of self-interest policy.
[00:20:37]  Explain to me how that does not have reporters all across the country demanding for her resignation.
[00:20:42]  Well, she's a non-American-born Somali refugee who hates America.
[00:20:47]  Therefore, she's the darling of the American activist media.
[00:20:50]  This country that she so despises is on track to make her ridiculously rich.
[00:20:55]  In fact, so rich she'll be able to fly first class to Mogadishu whenever she wants and fly first class back to America and tell us how awful America is despite Mogadishu literally being Mogadishu.
[00:21:07]  Now, imagine coming from a refugee camp in Mogadishu.
[00:21:10]  If you don't know what Mogadishu is, let's just say they don't have carnival cruises stopping in Mogadishu, okay, because they got Somali pirates that will probably kill you and kill your family.
[00:21:23]  So imagine coming from that same refugee camp to then lining your own pockets with millions of dollars of your constituents' dollars and saying, nope, this system does not give me enough power.
[00:21:33]  Time to dismantle and rebuild.
[00:21:36]  Now, when I say they dismantle and transform, they're very serious.
[00:21:41]  Take the latest Democrat power grab, the Breathe Act, sponsored by fellow ingrates, which mean ungrateful ones, Elon Omar, Ayanna Presley, and Rashida Tlaib.
[00:21:52]  If passed, it would close all federal prisons because we need more rapists than society, don't we?
[00:21:57]  We got a real rapist shortage, according to Elon Omar.
[00:22:01]  Defund the police, abolish ICE, give illegals the right to vote, push for reparations, and give felons the right to vote.
[00:22:08]  So tack that onto their green New Deal, and you've got your transformed America.
[00:22:14]  But I'm sure some of you are thinking, wait a second, Charlie, Joe Biden's not that bad.
[00:22:18]  The media tells us he's a blue dog Democrat.

=== Reject Identity Politics (15:21) ===

[00:22:20]  Well, first, please, again, listen to our sister episode and support our independent research on the Charlie Kirk Show.
[00:22:26]  We have a team of fact-checkers and researchers that are able to do the work the media does not.
[00:22:30]  You go to charliekirk.com/slash support.
[00:22:31]  You help support our program, find the truth.
[00:22:36]  But in case you needed further proof of Joe Biden's radicalism, here's a video in his campaign that our team caught and found that the media didn't cover, where he's now advocating for defunding the police, play tape.
[00:22:47]  So my generic point is that.
[00:22:48]  Can we agree that we can redirect some of the funding?
[00:22:52]  Yes, absolutely.
[00:22:54]  One of the things that we also need to be doing is fundamentally changing the way, and I've been pushing it for years, changing the way we deal with our prison system.
[00:23:03]  That's right.
[00:23:04]  Beijing Biden is one of them.
[00:23:06]  Biden, Bernie, AOC, Elon Omar, Pelosi, they're all caught from the same anti-American cloth.
[00:23:13]  And there's another one that I actually want to take a look into, and this is a Democrat that I know quite well.
[00:23:18]  She's a scam artist.
[00:23:20]  She's someone that you have to be very well aware of, and she might be the next vice president of the United States.
[00:23:24]  Before I get into it, I just want to say thank you again for our supporters at CharlieKirk.com slash support.
[00:23:28]  It means a lot.
[00:23:29]  CharlieKirk.com slash support.
[00:23:31]  Thank you.
[00:23:32]  Her name is Tammy Duckworth.
[00:23:34]  Now, I actually have more knowledge and more understanding and more experience with Tammy Duckworth than probably any other podcaster out there.
[00:23:46]  I got my start, my political start, in 2011, 2012, literally creating opposition research files on Tammy Duckworth in Illinois because I started, I didn't start turning point USA until 2012 and I was involved in, guess who was running up against Tammy Duckworth?
[00:23:59]  Anyone?
[00:24:00]  You know who's running up against Tammy Duckworth?
[00:24:02]  Joe Walsh was running up against Tammy Duckworth in 2012 for Congress, who ran for president.
[00:24:08]  I know Joe from many years ago.
[00:24:11]  And look, again, I've been on Tammy Duckworth's case since I was in high school.
[00:24:16]  In fact, there's an entire dossier of opposition research devoted to the junior senator from Illinois' very questionable record.
[00:24:27]  She lost her legs in a helicopter incident serving in the United States military.
[00:24:33]  I'm going to leave that right there.
[00:24:35]  And we're going to leave that right there.
[00:24:40]  And because of that, and we do thank her for her service, because of that, she thinks she's immune to criticism.
[00:24:47]  She thinks that because something awful happened to her, somehow her arguments are more correct.
[00:24:54]  So in response to President Trump's incredible Mount Rushmore speech, Duckworth claimed the entire speech was spent praising dead traitors.
[00:25:06]  So now, if she ends up being the vice president nominee for Joe Biden, every single day, the media should ask her, can you name the dead traitor that Trump was mentioning?
[00:25:18]  Which dead traitor?
[00:25:19]  Who is the dead traitor?
[00:25:21]  Tell us the dead traitor.
[00:25:23]  Please tell us the dead traitor.
[00:25:25]  Because Trump mentioned none of it, and Tucker went after her.
[00:25:29]  Play tape.
[00:25:30]  Long clips from the president's recent address at Mount Rushmore.
[00:25:33]  It may have been the best speech Donald Trump has ever given.
[00:25:36]  It was succinct and clear, and it was true.
[00:25:38]  And for all of those reasons, the Democratic Party and its many minions absolutely hated it.
[00:25:43]  They denounced the speech, and this may not come as a complete surprise to you, as quote, racist.
[00:25:48]  Now, that's a slur long divorced from any actual meaning, but we should tell you that as a factual matter, it's a lie.
[00:25:55]  There was nothing even conceivably racist about Trump's speech.
[00:25:58]  Go watch it for yourself.
[00:26:00]  There's not a racist word or idea in the whole thing.
[00:26:03]  The only time Trump even brought up the Civil War was to praise Abraham Lincoln, who, thank God, won it.
[00:26:08]  He never mentioned the Confederacy or anyone in the Confederacy.
[00:26:12]  Instead, Trump praised unabashed American heroes like George Washington, Clara Barton, the Wright brothers, Jackie Robinson.
[00:26:20]  Senator Tammy Duckworth of Illinois watched Trump's speech, or claimed she did.
[00:26:24]  Her summary of it, quote, he spent all his time talking about dead traitors.
[00:26:30]  George Washington, Clara Barton, Jackie Robinson, they are all, according to Tammy Duckworth, dead traitors.
[00:26:37]  Pretty shocking.
[00:26:38]  In case you think we're being unfair here, in the same interview, Senator Duckworth was asked if we should tear down statues to George Washington.
[00:26:46]  Sure, she responded.
[00:26:47]  Let's talk about it.
[00:26:48]  We played that tape for you last night, and we noted how grotesque it was.
[00:26:52]  Only someone who hates the country would suggest ripping down monuments to its founder.
[00:26:57]  Apparently, Tammy Duckworth saw what we said.
[00:26:59]  She didn't disagree with it exactly.
[00:27:02]  Instead, she questioned our right to criticize her at all, since she was once injured while serving in the Illinois Army National Guard.
[00:27:09]  That's what passes for an argument in modern identity politics.
[00:27:12]  They don't address the points that you make.
[00:27:14]  They question your right to make them at all.
[00:27:17]  The irony, of course, is that George Washington himself, the dead traitor Tammy Duckworth has such contempt for, also served in the military.
[00:27:25]  Washington spent most of his adult life under arms.
[00:27:28]  He fought in two wars.
[00:27:29]  At one point during the winter of 1777, Washington lost almost a quarter of his entire army to cold and malnutrition.
[00:27:37]  So George Washington paid his dues.
[00:27:40]  He was, as we might say today, a combat veteran.
[00:27:43]  And by the way, Washington also created the country we live in.
[00:27:46]  George Washington was a genuinely great man.
[00:27:49]  But to morons like Tammy Duckworth, Washington is just some old white guy who needs to be erased.
[00:27:53]  Let's tear down his statues, rename our capital city Sharpton or Mandela and let the revolution continue.
[00:27:59]  But hold on, not so fast.
[00:28:01]  Changes that profound deserve a debate.
[00:28:04]  Not some fake national conversation where they scream commands at you and you get to obey, but a vigorous, reasoned exchange between adults.
[00:28:13]  We wanted to have an exchange like that with Tammy Duckworth tonight.
[00:28:17]  So we called her office and we invited her on the show.
[00:28:19]  Her flack informed us that before even considering our request, we must first issue a public apology for criticizing Tammy Duckworth.
[00:28:28]  In other words, I will not debate you until first you admit you're completely wrong.
[00:28:34]  Keep in mind, Tammy Duckworth is not a child, at least not technically, she is a sitting United States senator who is often described as a hero.
[00:28:42]  Yet Duckworth is too afraid to defend her own statements on a cable TV show.
[00:28:46]  What a coward.
[00:28:47]  Tammy Duckworth is also a fraud.
[00:28:50]  Five years ago, while she was a member of Congress, whistleblowers from a VA hospital in Illinois approached Duckworth to report the widespread mistreatment of sick veterans.
[00:28:58]  Remember that story?
[00:29:00]  The whistleblowers met with Tammy Duckworth three times.
[00:29:03]  She refused to help them.
[00:29:04]  According to a cardiologist who attended those meetings, Duckworth dismissed the systemic cruelty inflicted on dying veterans by saying that, quote, that's just how it is at the VA.
[00:29:15]  The whistleblowers were horrified by her response.
[00:29:17]  Ultimately, in frustration, they took their story to the media and it became a national scandal.
[00:29:23]  This is the person lecturing the rest of us about her moral authority as a veteran.
[00:29:29]  Spare us.
[00:29:30]  Tammy Duckworth is a callous hack who ignored the suffering of actual veterans when it actually mattered.
[00:29:36]  She has no moral authority.
[00:29:38]  She is just a politician like the rest of them.
[00:29:40]  She works for us.
[00:29:41]  This is a democracy.
[00:29:43]  She has an obligation to explain herself and answer our questions.
[00:29:47]  And our first question would be: how can you lead a country you despise?
[00:29:51]  And that's not something we would ask only to Tammy Duckworth, by the way.
[00:29:54]  Hating America is a major theme in the Democratic Party right now.
[00:29:58]  It's everywhere.
[00:29:58]  Turn on the TV.
[00:29:59]  Epic SmackDown.
[00:30:01]  And the fact that Joe Biden is still considering her to be vice president only reinforces the points that we've been making on this program.
[00:30:08]  It tells you that Joe Biden is going to be a vessel for radical Marxist anti-American activism in the most pure, sinister, and malevolent form.
[00:30:19]  Now, naturally, the backlash to Tucker in this segment was incredible.
[00:30:23]  And he hasn't backed down.
[00:30:24]  Anyone with the audacity to criticize Tammy Duckworth?
[00:30:29]  They deserve to be applauded because that's not supposed to happen.
[00:30:32]  So Tammy Duckworth then responded to Tucker Carlson and said, well, try to walk a mile in my legs or my shoes.
[00:30:43]  Which, fine, great.
[00:30:44]  Great social media throwdown.
[00:30:46]  Doesn't actually address the issue that she was wrongly and falsely saying that Donald Trump was praising dead traitors.
[00:30:57]  Tammy challenged her to walk a mile in her legs, basically doing what the left always does, saying that we can't have a conversation, we can't debate because of something unfortunate that did happen to you or the color of my skin, instead of actually diving into the issues.
[00:31:14]  And by the way, if service to your country precluded you from criticism, why is it that the entire media has spent three years, three and a half years, trying to fundamentally destroy and attack Lieutenant General Michael Flynn?
[00:31:27]  Wouldn't that preclude him from criticism?
[00:31:30]  By her own standards, there are thousands of journalists who owe Flynn and his entire family a very sincere apology.
[00:31:39]  And think about this.
[00:31:40]  By her standards, according to the left, this new rule would preclude General George Washington from all those attacks.
[00:31:48]  And she says that George Washington was a trainer.
[00:31:50]  She says that George Washington was a traitor.
[00:31:52]  He founded the country.
[00:31:54]  How could you betray the country you found?
[00:31:57]  It's actually incredibly paradoxically impossible.
[00:32:02]  It's axiomatically impossible, in fact.
[00:32:06]  As a matter of fact, this is something that you could tell some of your friends at a cocktail party.
[00:32:11]  George Washington is actually the general of the armies of the United States, a posthumous honor given to him by Congress in 1976.
[00:32:20]  So he's actually still the general of the United States military.
[00:32:26]  And that makes him the highest possible rank in the United States military, equivalent to a six-star general.
[00:32:32]  But you can't criticize him, right?
[00:32:35]  This is a tactic of the left.
[00:32:37]  The left does this very often, and we'll end on this note: they try to use a debate tactic called arguing from authority.
[00:32:44]  They do it all the time.
[00:32:46]  This is inherently a logical fallacy.
[00:32:50]  I'm a professor, therefore I must be right.
[00:32:53]  I'm a black person, therefore I know black issues better than you do.
[00:32:57]  This kind of arguing from authority is a postmodern Jacques Derrida tactic to silence critics.
[00:33:06]  It is a tactic rooted in the idea that everyone has their own truth and that if you have an argument from a certain piece of authority, you should be given more credibility.
[00:33:14]  This is nonsense.
[00:33:16]  Now, we thank Tammy Duckworth for serving.
[00:33:19]  Thank you.
[00:33:21]  But when she says to Tucker, without actually addressing the criticism, well, why don't you walk a mile on her legs, it immediately ends the debate and we go back into our tribal groups of right versus left, team right versus team left.
[00:33:36]  Instead, Tammy Duckworth should have dove into the issues and not tried to posture around arguing from authority.
[00:33:48]  You see that the left do this all the time.
[00:33:50]  I'm sure a lot of people, in fact, I get thousands of emails of people listening to this podcast.
[00:33:55]  People that say, Charlie, I'm told I can't speak because I'm white.
[00:33:59]  I'm told that I can't have an opinion on BLM Inc. because I'm a white male.
[00:34:03]  Truth transcends color.
[00:34:08]  Facts, data, statistics, logic is true no matter who communicates them.
[00:34:15]  This idea that only men or only women or only black people or Hispanic people are able to speak a certain series of facts is a gateway to the destruction of dialogue and discourse, and with that, the United States of America.
[00:34:33]  Any person should be able to say anything.
[00:34:36]  That's right.
[00:34:37]  Now, mind you, if a certain individual says something, they should also back it up with facts, data, statistic, and independent pieces of information.
[00:34:48]  Let me build out why this is so dangerous.
[00:34:50]  If we take the left's tactics and we engage in them, all of a sudden the best argument does not win.
[00:34:57]  The best policy idea does not win.
[00:35:00]  The moral good does not win.
[00:35:02]  Instead, it's whoever is the most oppressed group or the person that might be closest to the highest authority figure.
[00:35:09]  This is very dangerous.
[00:35:11]  Instead, submit into the general consensus why you believe what you believe and why other people should also believe it.
[00:35:20]  Being able to say, well, I know this better because I'm of a certain skin color.
[00:35:25]  Well, maybe you have certain experiences that might be micro true, but does it back up a macro truth?
[00:35:32]  I'll give you a great example.
[00:35:35]  If I had someone here on this podcast and they said, Charlie, I'm going to tell you something that's true.
[00:35:41]  Seatbelts kill people.
[00:35:44]  Well, he said, that's statistically completely untrue.
[00:35:48]  And they say, well, my brother died because a seatbelt suffocated him in a car accident.
[00:35:52]  Therefore, it's true.
[00:35:54]  So his own personal story, his truth, makes it feel as if that should be applied to the entire world.
[00:36:01]  However, it's not true.
[00:36:04]  In fact, seatbelts save tens of thousands of lives and only jeopardize 10 or 15 lives every single year.
[00:36:12]  So is what he's saying true?
[00:36:13]  Of course not.
[00:36:15]  Now, is the story that he submits something that happened?
[00:36:19]  Yes.
[00:36:20]  But his argument from authority could mislead an entire society around a public policy debate around seatbelts.
[00:36:31]  This is not uncommon.
[00:36:32]  The same could be said around BLM Inc.
[00:36:35]  When people go on television and they say, well, you don't understand police brutality because you've never lived it.
[00:36:42]  And if you've never lived it, it's true.
[00:36:43]  You've never lived it.
[00:36:44]  That doesn't mean you can't comment on it.
[00:36:47]  That doesn't mean you cannot engage in the conversation.
[00:36:50]  That doesn't mean you have to sit down and shut up.
[00:36:52]  That doesn't mean you have to listen to other people that have lived it.
[00:36:55]  Instead, they should be able to submit independently audited, independently audited, agreed-upon data and statistics that are applicable to entire societies and entire communities, not just an individual story.
[00:37:10]  Because then you dive into the emotive, the pathological.
[00:37:14]  Well, my story is sadder, and what happened to me is so unjust.
[00:37:18]  So for example, people try to say, well, white privilege because of Brock Turner.
[00:37:22]  Well, first of all, we've already unpacked that here on the Charlie Kirk show multiple times, that it was wealth privilege, not white privilege.
[00:37:28]  But just that one story is so outrageous, and I agree it's emotively outrageous, it would be such a mistake to create public policy around that.
[00:37:37]  In fact, it'd be misleading.
[00:37:39]  It'd be a disservice to the truth.

=== Police Are Not Systemically Racist (02:14) ===

[00:37:42]  The left loves to be able to hide behind certain individuals that can argue from authority or from personal experience, despite the fact that the macro truth, in fact, the ultimate truth, does not correlate with whatever narrative they might be peddling.
[00:37:59]  They've done this for every single issue you can imagine.
[00:38:03]  Gun violence, racial tension, white privilege, education.
[00:38:08]  The left is always better at the right at being able to tell stories because we on the right, for good reason, by the way, and it puts us at a storytelling and strategic disadvantage, is we demand facts, data, statistics, and agreed-upon starting points.
[00:38:30]  If you do not have a given, in geometry terms, that all of you can point to and say, yes, that is true, then all of a sudden you're going to be doing nothing more than swapping campfire stories and whoever cries the best and has the saddest story to tell will win the argument.
[00:38:49]  You cannot build a society around that.
[00:38:52]  You can't.
[00:38:53]  In fact, you shouldn't.
[00:38:56]  In fact, if that ends up being rewarded, which is what's happening right now in America, where the person with the saddest story, despite it being an isolated incident and not part of something that is systemic or part of a macro trend, if you give them that sort of unwarranted attention and application to the general piece of public policy, then you're designing an entire country governmentally and culturally around a lie.
[00:39:25]  For example, police are not systemically racist.
[00:39:28]  They take the singular incident of Derek Chauvin killing George Floyd and want to apply it to our entire society.
[00:39:37]  That specific incident happened that is not emblematic of police officers across the country.
[00:39:44]  No data, no science, no statistics show that.
[00:39:49]  So for a lot of the students listening to this podcast, I encourage you to reject any arguments from authority or from identity politics.

=== Data Over Singular Stories (02:01) ===

[00:39:57]  If a teacher says, I'm right because I'm a teacher, say, that's a logical fallacy.
[00:40:02]  Prove it to me.
[00:40:04]  If your teacher says the first law of Newtonian physics is incorrect and I'm right because I'm a professor, they're lying to you.
[00:40:12]  And you, who might just be an undergraduate student or an eighth grade physics student, you might have more truth than the teacher if you believe in the first law of physics because it's true.
[00:40:21]  So what Tammy Duckworth does right here is a argument from authority, identity politic, oppression Olympic, sleight of hand.
[00:40:30]  Do not tolerate this.
[00:40:32]  We as Republicans engage in this far too often.
[00:40:36]  We just do.
[00:40:37]  Anyone can talk about any topic, especially when there is a plethora of data out there.
[00:40:46]  I am not dismissing that personal stories do not have a place in the national conversation, but they have a place in the national conversation when they are harmonic and congruent with something that is proven in data and science, physics, history, logical, or critical thinking.
[00:41:06]  Please listen to our sister episode where we take down Joe Biden and send it to all your friends.
[00:41:11]  It's very comprehensive.
[00:41:13]  It's very thorough.
[00:41:14]  I encourage you to check it out.
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[00:41:31]  Email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
[00:41:37]  Thank you guys so much.
[00:41:38]  God bless you.
[00:41:39]  And please tune in tomorrow.
[00:41:40]  We're going to be going to some very important topics around cancel culture and even answering the question, what is truth?
[00:41:48]  Should I believe that there's a God?
[00:41:50]  What is the meaning of life?
[00:41:51]  And kind of an attack on nihilism, something I've been doing a lot of thinking about.
[00:41:55]  God bless you guys.
[00:41:56]  Talk to you soon.
[00:41:57]  Thanks so much.