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It's a little tiny bit stormy out there at the moment.
It looks more wet than it actually is.
Anyway, I needed to do this fairly quick.
I'll probably have to take a break because I'm a long-winded motherfucker.
But I got a pie in the oven.
So I've got a, in about 20 minutes, I've got to go check it and probably take it out at that point.
It's a sheet pie from the Huckleberries, which are really ripe at the moment.
Okay, so some more complicated time stuff.
Kind of cool, sort of interesting, especially for us guys involved in it.
There's a video out there with Dick Algaier interviewing me, and that video is from some time back.
I think it was like 2019 or 2020 that we did that.
But to be honest, I haven't been thinking about times that way, so I'm not really sure when it was done.
Okay, but here's the thing.
Here's the progression of events.
In about the period of time that we had the 2008 crash, financial crash, we started getting in all kinds of new technology stuff in the data.
This was also along in that period of time where we knew there was new money coming, but we didn't know it was going to be called Bitcoin or cryptos or whatever, right?
We just knew it was going to emerge, which it did and so on.
Within those same sets were other forms of technology that were being referenced.
One of these other forms of technology that was being referenced is what we now call podcasts.
Okay, a person to potentially hundreds of millions direct feed with no broadcast corporation in between, right?
There is, in the sense, a YouTube or Spotify or that kind of stuff.
So the corporations are trying to control it, right?
Any organization will be infiltrated by the Elohim worship cult and used to their end.
So anyway, so the data forecast, this stuff that we didn't know was going to be called a podcast.
The term was out there, I think, at the time that it first started showing up in the data, but it was as a descriptor that we were seeing it.
So it wasn't linked to the term podcast.
It had yet to cement to that.
In any event, time passes, more data comes in, the descriptors for the technology firm up, and then we get to this point where, like I say, about a year after the financial crash, so about 2009, we get into a situation where there's a forecast of a temporal marker.
Now you have to understand something about the data sets and why temporal markers are really important.
Okay, so all of the time components within the data are calculated based on the duration of emotional impact for a word in that context as the weighted indices algorithm is applied to it.
Okay, so I had to come up with these numbers.
And so I would go through long lists of words and say, oh, well, that word under these contexts would have this sort of a long duration.
And then I just take a stab at it.
Eventually we codified on some ranges.
And so it came down to immediacy language, midterm language, and then long-term language.
Long-term language and mid-term language were separated at about 19 months.
But there's sort of an overlap on all of this.
What the process is, is to go through and get all this language off the internet, go through the pre-processing that sucks out the potentially prescient stuff, and then apply these constraint processes to it.
And in the constraint processes is one of those that figures out the time impact of this word in that context in this particular set, because it's going to vary.
So you could have trial, okay, just as an example word.
You could say, you could, if you had the word trial and you had it associated with by fire, you would say trial by fire.
The fact that you have that by fire there shortens its potential impact emotionally because you're talking about an analog to a real world kind of a thing where you had a trial by fire and you're not sitting your ass around waiting, right?
A trial by fire is a quick kind of a thing.
Or you could have a legal trial.
So if you had legal trial in there, that shit might drag on for decades.
So you see that the word itself could have various different temporal connotations at any given point relative to the discussion.
You get the idea.
This applies to all the descriptors, mainly the verbs, adverbs, adjectives, and then ultimately nouns as descriptors.
Okay, so in the data, okay, and so that's that, all right, so there's two aspects, well, there's actually three aspects, but there's two major primary levels of processing for the data processing stuff I do.
One of which is to examine all the words, just as I said, that would ultimately lead to the duration amounts being calculated, summed, averaged, et cetera, et cetera, right?
Then there's also this other aspect of that, and that is the context.
Now, I did not write a natural language processing AI the way that chat is, for instance, right?
Where you could talk to it in quasi-English.
My approach has to do some of that work, but I didn't do it for an interface for me because it wasn't necessary.
All right, so part of the processing still requires the language part of the processing to identify with and get connected to language that is understood, so to speak, right?
It's not understood by the software because I had to put all that shit into the database.
It was understood by me at the time that I made these cross-connections within the database.
But to a certain extent, we humans can think of it as a software processing the context or processing the read, the data that's been captured, to try and achieve an understanding of the context.
And then that is applied to the words that are then being summed for the duration.
I hope that makes sense.
Basically, it's a very sophisticated form of a computer-assisted guessing on time.
So, sometimes within the data, occasionally, we would get these things I would call temporal markers, where a data set would arise that had cross-links that were extremely strong and very clear, and these cross-links would each have a referential point to something occurring in time.
They wouldn't necessarily give you a day, wouldn't necessarily even give you a year.
But it would say, basically, it would say, if this occurs, or when this occurs, then that occurs shortly thereafter.
Or just before this manifests, look for this, because over here, because this will be manifesting just ahead of that.
You could have, you could, reading the data sets and so forth and looking at the numerics, you could judge the temporal referential relationship between the various different data sets.
So if a data set popped up and said, you know, a specific thing, like the Costa Concordia, okay, that was a prediction I made that was like five or eight months ahead of time in which I said there was going to be a blonde on a boat that was going to cause problems in mayhem.
It was entitled, a little section in the report was entitled Blondes on Boats.
And it happened.
Okay, a blonde was taken up by a captain on the Costa Concordia cruise ship, and he got to fiddling around with her when he should have been fiddling around with the boat, and the result was some people dead and the boat falling over.
Okay, so we had it.
That was a temporal marker because there were things that were connected, especially crypto at that time, within my data processing that said, when the blondes on the boats things happen, this other stuff's going to happen.
And so we were able to say, okay, we got maybe, we had like, I think we had five or eight months, I can't remember, lead time on the blondes on boats.
There was a distance after that within the data sets that appeared to be about three months.
So we knew we had about three months for this other stuff to pop up.
That's pertinent in a second.
Anyway, so, okay, so that would be a temporal marker, right?
Once it's happened, then this other stuff is more likely to occur.
And it's not a the blondes on boats must have happened for this other stuff to have happened, but in our predictive linguistics, they were linked temporally close enough that the algorithm was associating them within a specific period of time.
I don't want to get into details and drive people crazy.
Okay, so there's so much we don't know about time.
There's so much we don't know about the ability of predictive linguistics relative to the mass psychic impressions.
And I was just guessing for time on all of these words.
Millions of things.
Okay, it was automated.
I didn't go through millions, but nonetheless, it was quite the tedious thing.
It took years.
Okay, so we have a temporal marker that originally showed up in the podcast thing in 2009.
In 2009, it started shaping up as a temporal marker that would be almost impossible to miss should it ever arise.
And that this temporal marker was going to be, I couldn't get a word big enough, and Dick Algaier reminded me in the interview that it was going to be basically iconic.
And that's what it is.
Okay, so the temporal marker that we're discussing here is a Rogan-Trump interview, right?
Or Trump being interviewed by Rogan or discussion or however we want to talk about it, right?
On the Joe Rogan podcast.
Now, this is pertinent because I'd had this percolating since 2009.
And then I had, at some point later on, I'd gone and I'd put in a request with the future forecasting group, as they're called now, and talked to headquarters and got them to do a future forecasting sweep on my situation.
Was this thing going to occur?
Damned if they didn't nail it.
You should go look up that video.
If I get my shit together, I'll put a descriptor in under, or put a link in under the, in the description for this video.
Anyway, so Dick Algaier comes back with drawings, drawing Trump and Joe Rogan, the whole damn thing, right?
And so at that time, we had just, at the time of the video that Dick Algaier made, and going into the interview with me, it was a temporal marker, but the interview never happened because it was all about the debate.
But you'll see in the discussion I had with Dick that I didn't expect the debate to occur because my data said clearly showed that it was just the two of them, that this iconic mono-amano thing was going to continue on for like a long fucking time as the icon for the turn, right?
For the fourth turning, for the turn of so much relative to the chaos that's in our world now.
And so it was going to be a really cool temporal marker to observe and a very important one, perhaps the most important one that I had ever had forecast within that, in the data sets, you know, even more important than Bitcoin or any of this other shit, right?
At that level.
Okay, so that was 2009.
We go to 2019 and Dick and I have our interview about it, but it doesn't happen at that time, right?
Because the debate never happened.
Pre-presidential election debate, right?
Maybe it was 2020, but right in that time period.
Okay, now it's 2024, and we have this same temporal marker of Trump and Rogan, but as a duo, right?
Not as part of a debate, showing up.
So we're back to the temporal marker, and they've now confirmed that they're going to do this.
I have no idea what day or anything.
I'm out of the loop as far as that goes.
I don't get a chance to really catch up with a lot of that.
I'm so busy around here that all I can do is sometimes I turn stuff on and I sometimes catch a little of it on the audio as I'm passing through.
Okay, so now let's understand a few things here, okay?
No, we'll get to that in a second.
Okay, so at the time that I did that in 2009, I'd been working with this guy since the late, since 1999.
Okay, this was my Igor.
We call him Igor.
That was a fake name, right?
He didn't want to be associated.
He had a professional career.
He didn't want to be associated with his lunacy.
He didn't want his name attached or whatever, right?
And he had other issues.
So anyway, so he's been anonymous.
We go along.
We make this thing work.
He works with me for a better part of, or more than a decade on the thing as the data wrangler, right?
He was doing a lot of that aspect of it.
And I was out writing the code and stuff.
Anyway, because of the situation now, okay, so Igor and I parted ways when I had to shut my process down after the heavy hand of censorship run up into 2017.
So around 2012, well, actually around 2002, the censorship started rolling in.
I knew this because I was tracking the Department of Defense introduction of the flat earth meme as a PSYOP in 2002, and I started writing about it, and it got heavy-handed, shut down.
It was like canceled everywhere.
I would post it, and it'd be taken down almost immediately.
Didn't matter where, right?
There were very few outlets at that time.
Substack didn't exist and all this kind of stuff.
I put it on my website once, but I was dependent upon, and we got hit by DDOS attacks you would not believe.
And so I took it down myself just in order to get that bandwidth free because I needed it for the data stuff.
Anyway, so the censorship clamps down on me too hard.
I had other issues there.
I was still in the process of, you know, the long 30-year process of discovering I was dying from cancer.
And so I wasn't inclined to go and fight a lot of stuff at that point on this level for this stuff.
And so, you know, my assistant here, Igor, was quite happy.
He'd made, he had purchased a lot, like buckets and buckets and buckets of Ethereum.
And he was, you know, happy as a clam at high tide.
And so it didn't bother him that we were shutting down.
It wasn't real a problem for him.
Anyway, he got hold of me the other day as a result of this temporal marker, as a result of him hearing about Trump and Rogan.
He's not the country.
There was a slight delay on him finding this stuff out.
Anyway, he gets hold of me and he wanted to remind me of something.
It's like, oh yeah, I'd forgot about that.
Okay, so yeah, so he retired.
He's happy.
He's living in a tropical paradise.
He's one of probably the top, I'm certain he's one of the top percent richest guys on the island that he's living on.
Anyway, so, but he was letting me know, hey, you know, remember that.
See, we didn't keep the data.
It was just too voluminous.
The resources were thin.
I didn't have vast quantities of storage, nor media, nor the ability to keep it safe, right?
I live out in the Northwest, and the conditions can be quite hard on electronics and data.
So anyway, he reminded me about this thing, about the, at the time in 2009 that the temporal marker showed up that is now labeled as the Rogan Trump interview temporal marker, which is now identifying the time we're in.
That was linked to Bitcoin prices and all different kinds of stuff, right, in those data sets going all the way back to 2009.
Bear in mind, I think it was 2009 that they released the white paper with Satoshi's name on it.
So we didn't even have Bitcoin software or mining or anything at the point at that point.
Anyway, though, so in that original temporal marker data set, there was this stuff.
And Igor, the reason it really stuck out in his mind was because he and I fought about it for so much.
Well, not fought about it, but argued over how it would have to be interpreted, okay?
Because I use a strict denotation, a strict interpretation of a word based on its absolute definition, you know, in terms of correct grammar and so on.
So what we ended up doing was doing it my way.
I was paying the freight.
But the word was melee, okay, M-E-L-E-E.
This is a word that is basically military in origin in terms of its use in the English language.
And Igor was in the Air Force.
Okay, so I don't mean to laugh.
I don't mean to be denigrating about it, but they don't teach history of combat or any of this kind of stuff that I knew of to Air Force non-coms, which is what Igor was.
He was a non-commissioned officer, a data integrity specialist, all different kinds of cool stuff.
Basically, though, as I understand it, he spent a lot of his time in the Air Force playing poker.
Anyway, so melee has a very specific meaning.
So a melee is not just a bunch of guys standing up and flinging and fighting, right?
So it's not a big knock-down, drag-out brawl in a tavern or something.
People have put the word to it, but that's not accurate.
It is a military term.
A melee is when an organized act of warfare, an organized combat activity, degenerates into what we think of as like a basic brawl.
Every person for themselves, any weapon at hand, you know, totally disorganized, completely disorganized, last man standing wins kind of thing, right?
Or fight your way out to survive kind of thing.
So a famous melee is Custer's last stand, okay, General asshole Custer.
He led an organized troop and then they made their battle plans and stuff when they knew they were going to be attacked.
And in the end, it degenerate, everybody gets killed, but it degenerates down into hand-to-hand fighting with no organization at all, no one able to direct things.
And so basically, it's that aspect of it that Igor and I were discussing.
So, okay, so first off, note that you convert, or it transitions.
A combat action transitions into a melee by the control evaporating.
Okay, and everybody's on their own after that.
You know, it's okay.
So, all right.
So, it's the control aspect of it that's the issue.
Okay, we're going to come back to something else in a second.
All right, so Igor and I he wanted to make melee temporally show up over here in terms of its representational or in terms of its input on our temporal range.
Okay, and melee, there's a lot of words that basically are describing a condition that existed prior to this word manifesting into our reality, right?
So, there could be a huge amount of fighting, and then it degenerates into a melee.
So, you can't say that, you know, the melee part is the beginning of anything.
The melee is actually the end.
It's the degradation of the fighting, even in large combat, like Navy boats.
Melee is a naval term.
It has also been adapted to the Army, etc.
But it meant naval vessels fighting at abnormally close quarters, right?
So, you didn't dare shoot that way because you'd hit your own guys as part of it, but people are shooting across you at them and all different kinds of stuff.
So, anyway, we had this situation.
After the Joe Rogan interview, in our data back in 2009, and it was confirmed before, and it was one of the reasons I did it.
It was confirmed before I commissioned the remote viewing guys to have a look, right?
I wanted confirmation of what we were seeing.
I mean, I don't follow politics at the time that all this was going on.
In 2009, Trump was not even a figure in any of this.
And Joe Rogan was, but he wasn't like a big major thing, right?
So, I didn't have any hooks and any personalities involved.
It was just two cutouts, just two placeholders, two variables for me.
You know, what turned out to be a podcaster and a president of the United States that were just going to blow the whole thing wide open.
The reason that this is the case is because that TM had a lot to do with the UFO discussion, right?
And the secret technology and all of this kind of shit.
That's why, in the data sets, it became such a standout, such an iconic temporal marker, was because it appears just ahead of sci-fi world starting to manifest.
And it is such that 100 years from now, people can go back and look at this video, look at the interview itself, and know that that was the absolute threshold being crossed as we move into sci-fi world.
Okay, so that setup aside, so I'm talking with Igor, and he reminded me this, and to be honest, I'd totally spaced on it.
But that was the reason that I, the reason that I had contacted Dick Algaier and his remote viewing guys was because we'd had that melee thing back in 2009.
And in 2000, I think probably about 2015, maybe it started really picking up again.
And I'll describe that in a second.
And so I was prompted to get hold of Dick Algaier as like sort of a sanity check on what I was seeing.
Anyway, and so we had this situation within the data in 2009 that had been reinforced over the years from 2009 through to 2015 that said that 39 days after this TM took place, we would have the big, and this is where Igor and I did our fighting, we would have this visible contention that would dissolve into a melee.
And at the time, and even in our even in our conversations here recently, he wanted to say, and I'm going to, I'll title this this way in honor of Igor here, but he wanted to say that it was 39 days to melee, which is a catchy phrase.
Okay, it'd be a nice title for a book or something.
But in my opinion, it's not quite accurate, right?
Because we don't know what the distance is between the organized visible contention that then degrades into the melee.
That might be months for all we know.
But what we do have some justification for suggesting is that there will be 39 days between the temporal marker of the Trump interview and the appearance of this visible contention.
And we're not talking, you know, people taking on migrant gangs that are taking over apartment buildings.
That kind of visible contention may well be in there, but the stuff that had been motivating me to get hold of Dick Algaier was the visible contention between space aliens, okay, so, or whatever, right?
Alien reproduction vehicles or whatever the hell.
Who knows what's going on?
Because we can't validate any of it at this point, right?
But the data set said that 39 days after this temporal marker, giant, huge, iconic temporal marker.
To be honest, I never thought I would live to actually see it occur.
In the interview with Dick Algaier, I was, you know, just had just gone through the cancer process and was hanging on and entering into the recovery period, right?
And so that took 2019, 2020, 21, and about half of 22.
Then I was fit enough to go on to this next phase, which was the rebuilding of my fighting frame by way of building an IKEA body, they call it.
You have to go and understand Shinshin Soitsu Aikido, Tohe Sensei, Osensei, Uishiba, Osensei, and the techniques.
Okay, but you can recover from cancer.
And I'm 71 now, and I'm able to rebuild muscle mass, right?
It is tedious.
It is work.
So it's not like it's a pill or anything.
It doesn't work that way.
But in any event, so I did all of this, right, in this intervening period of time here.
Okay, so now we have this temporal marker appearing, but at the time that Dick and I were doing that interview, I knew it would occur, but honestly, 2019, I wasn't sure I was going to survive, right?
I was hopeful that there wouldn't be any more crises, but you just never can tell, right?
So anyway, though, it was pleasing to have lived at least that long that I saw the linguistics about that temporal marker appear in the media.
Now we've got that same set of linguistics again, and apparently we have confirmation that the interview will take place and therefore we'll have it as a temporal marker itself.
And so that sets going a sort of a timer.
Bear in mind what I was telling you about how we get these times, right?
It's software adding up all of this shit based on all these words, and we're constantly wrong to some great degree.
And it varies based on the size of this set, the amount of processing it takes, and yada, yada, yada.
So it's not like any kind of guaranteed date or anything, right?
It is just, I am alluding to the possibility that there's a short period of time between the, you know, barely over a month between the temporal marker and the visible contention that will appear in the skies that from the descriptors we had back in 2009 will go to the idea of UFO versus UFO and UFO versus jets.
Okay, so like sort of very complex kind of Independence Day kind of shit, right?
Nobody will know who the hell is doing what with whom.
Now, okay, so you think that's unlikely and so on, as do I. All this shit's always unlikely until it happens.
You know, possible, not probable, right?
So anyway, now we have a strange thing where there's swarms of 20-foot drones flying around military bases.
So unknown.
Nobody knows who owns these drones, who's controlling them.
At least they're not telling us guys.
I would suspect that the military would be freaking out if they can't see the signals that are directing those drones.
And those drones are a cavas weapon where one of the, okay, so I won't describe it, but basically you set off a group of drones that don't report back to headquarters until they're all done.
Okay, they don't ever say anything back to headquarters at all.
All their communications are between the drones.
If drone number one that's leading the pack gets taken out just like a flight of geese, then the number two takes over, et cetera, et cetera.
That's a particular kind of a design.
I worked on something like that in the 70s and implemented it for some software for the Department of Fisheries in the late 80s.
And that software ran 25 years without needing servicing, so to speak, and didn't break down because it was redundant, because it had, you know, if the number one computer went down, the number two took over.
And they talked to each other intermittently to say, yeah, I'm here, I'm here, that kind of thing.
So everybody knew what was going on.
This is pre-internet.
Internet came along, and it was just cheaper to discard that software and do it in a, you know, web-based interface.
Anyway, so we now have those kind of drones doing their own.
I've got to go get that.
Hang on a second.
Doing their own controls.
And so it's quite possible we may end up with one of these melees.
I'll be back in a minute.
It's okay guys.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
The snout knows.
I can smell the hooks.
We're done.
And it's glazed over perfect, just fine.
So it was great to let it go until the snout told me because you never know with Huckleberries, you know, because of the nature of the berry and how they ripen and all that kind of stuff.
No, guys, no, nobody out there.
Anyway.
Okay, so we're going to have these some kind of weird confrontation, visible contention, which we could probably call and term combat in the skies that will show up and it'll show up at a predictable point, which is probably something over a month, and we'll put down 30 days or 39 days, something over a month after the temporal marker of Trump and Rogan.
And that's just the beginning of all of this, right?
So in my understanding of what we were looking at back in 2009, and I can't refresh because again, we don't weren't able to keep any of that data.
We ended up with a situation where, in my opinion, melee may be a couple of months past the visible contention point.
The visible contention will go on, not continuously necessarily, maybe intermittently, and maybe sporadically in terms of where it's located.
And then it will degenerate in one of these combat episodes or combat encounters into a melee.
And in this sense, we may also find that at that period of time, just coincidentally, you know, we got political chaos and because we may be talking January and we may end up with a melee itself on the ground, you know, as above, so below kind of thing, right?
But the melee in the skies was what was being forecast in 2009.
Again, this is all part of a large set that was dominated by this temporal marker as the iconic threshold that you step up into to get into sci-fi world.
And so we'll be having our entrance in the sci-fi world here.
Okay, so, all right, so that's our basic subject number one, right?
That maybe the melee, in my opinion, it would fit, it would be fitting with data I have now if that melee actually starts showing up in January 15th through February 15th in that period of time, because there's going to be all kinds of chaotic activity in that period of time anyway.
And the data sets in 2009, both Igor and myself were saying, well, it's odd that we didn't find a lot of references about crowds and their reaction, okay?
And it may be that you can't be in a crowd on the street in that period of time and be looking at the sky because there's a melee right around you and you've got to keep your eyes focused just to stay alive.
We don't know what the conditions are going to be.
But we didn't find a lot of confirmatory extra set descriptors that would define an environment that would place it into a big, nice, complete picture for us.
We had a lot of good stuff, the temporal marker, all that kind of stuff showing up, very firm and so on.
But the melee part, we didn't have, it was squishier.
Okay, so, all right, so now that aside, the entrance into sci-fi world, how do we want to, okay, so let me stop for a second and say, we have a bunch of people out in the alternative media,
which is now pretty much evolving into the mainstream media, that in my opinion, are a little bit slow mentally, right?
And these guys don't quite grasp what's going on, so they're using words inappropriately.
And so I'm going to give you a context here that hopefully you'll be able to understand why these people are perceiving these words this way, perceiving our situation and applying these words.
So back in the day, you would have a hill and you'd have a general up on that hill, okay?
And that, and then that general down in the battlefield would be directing all kinds of troops against an enemy.
All right?
And so the general's standing up on the hill here and he's looking at it all and he's telling runners and they're sending information and he's telling the troops, okay, you guys move over there.
You got somebody coming over here.
He's got the general's got spotters up there from other hillsides that are telling him all of this kind of stuff.
We're talking ancient battles all the way up into like the 1800s, you know, because this kind of thing was how they did cannons.
Even naval battles are essentially that.
You know, the admiral thinks he knows he's got a good sensory awareness of where these other ships are, even if he can't see them over the horizon, right?
They had finally had ship-based howitzers that could throw something over the horizon over three or four miles.
And so they could shoot a ship over the horizon if they kind of knew where it was.
And thus the game battleship, where you're guessing as to where the battleships are, but you do it with a strategy, etc.
Okay, so these generals did all of that in order that those battles might be won, in order that the war might be won.
Okay, and the people that were involved down here, they're just following orders.
Okay, they know the concept of what's going on.
They know their role.
Their role is to do or die.
Usually it's to do and die, but and actually in these kind of wars, well, I won't go into it, too much of a diversion.
In any event.
So the generals are directing people that at least had an understanding.
Oh, okay, you know, when my sergeant tells me to run over there, I run over there.
That sergeant knew that he should be telling his troops to run over there when the lieutenant told him that, hey, make your troops run over there.
Make your company move over there, right?
All the way up the chain.
Okay, but they all knew what all this was leading to.
Okay, so for like the Charlie Ward kind of guys that are out there, it's all a pantomime or you hear some of these people say it's all a movie.
They're not viewing this thing appropriately, okay?
Because this war is not like all of these wars.
That's like all fourth generation war.
We're in fifth generation war.
So it's not all troops in an organized fashion versus other troops in an organized fashion.
It's all ephemeral.
And it's all thought and paradigm and words sweeping through the population and dominating against other dynamic paradigms.
Not against people with bullets, but still, in a sense, against a general that's directing all of this shit.
And in this sense, people like Charlie Ward and all these decode guys that are saying, oh, it's just a movie.
and you know, Charlie Ward says it's a pantomime, you know, a play, it's their interpretation of the moves that they see being made.
Okay.
What they don't grasp is what they're seeing is the general issuing the orders and the population moving.
And they're sitting over here on the side watching all this and they see that.
And to a great extent, they do not grasp that in this case, in fifth generation warfare, the population in here that is being moved around and is both a target and a tool and a weapon is ignorant of what's going on.
That's why all the Q-drops had to happen, was to create all the non-coms and all the lieutenants and all the captains and all the majors and all the colonels such that there could be a disorganized, decentralized,
distributed command structure with no overt ties, only ties that could be discovered in hindsight by seeing who talked to who, that kind of thing, or who said what.
So that infrastructure was built by the Q-drops, by all of these weird-ass people running around being QAnons and saying, hey, what the fuck does this shit mean?
And so, okay, and so in that sense, all of those Anons were initiates, okay?
Many of them, probably the vast majority of them, did not understand that they were being initiated into a command structure understanding by the process that they went through within the Q-drops and the decoding of it.
And many of them probably still would not understand that their learning the language, going into it all, et cetera, et cetera, was intended to not only give them information, but also to change the way their mind work and to provide them with some basic training for their role in this command structure.
So people like Charlie Ward and other people I've heard reference and say it's all it's all a movie and stuff.
Well, to a certain extent, all wars are like that because you could always, if you were sitting up here as a civilian watching these old-style battles, you could see it that way, right?
Oh, you know, all of this shit down here, it's all a movie relative because you've got a director up there.
And so this is where it gets dangerous.
It's not, you know, their vision, the decoders and, you know, and Charlie Warden stuff, not the Anons, but even the Anons, their vision of themselves in a historical perspective relative to what's going on in a grander historical perspective is very limited.
And so Charlie thinks it's all fake.
He thinks it's all a movie.
He thinks it's all scripted.
It's going to go this way.
It's going to go that way and so on, right?
And nothing could be further from the truth.
Everything is in a dynamic state of flux.
It's actually all quite chaotic.
And it's the way in which warfare, as we understand it, or contention, I keep coming back to that.
It's not really a war if there's not bankers involved.
That's the way contention will be in the future for a lot of different reasons, and we don't need to get diverted.
Okay, so hang on a second.
I'm going to make a quick analysis.
Okay, I'll get into this other little bit stuff here real quick.
Anyway, so it's not a movie, but it is controlled and directed.
There are plans that we could think of as a script, and none of them will ever happen as they are planned.
You know, that's a law of war.
First contact with enemy destroys all your plans because they're not going to do as you planned for them to do.
So, anyway, so we have to bear that in mind.
Okay, so you got the people out there saying it's a movie and stuff.
It's not.
And you can get your ass killed, especially in this period of time now and into the future, thinking that you're not at risk because it appears to be directed.
You still need to maintain a heightened sense of awareness, you know, personal proximity, what the fuck's going on around me, and this kind of thing, and hold yourself, you know, prepared to deal with unexpected circumstances because there's going to be a lot of it going forward for some considerable period of time.
All right, so now, okay, so, all right, so, all right, let me go.
All right, over here is a long list of languages, okay?
It starts at the top, it says Farsi, and then it goes Middle Persian, and it keeps going down all these languages here.
Let me pull that over a bit, see if we can get a better view of that.
Yeah, a little bit.
Middle Persian, you know, back through all the other Persians, back in finally into Sanskrit, and then Avastan.
Okay, then there's a couple of dots there representing three or four other languages, and then you come back to this other language called Hurrian.
H-U-R-R-I-A-N.
This is about 5,000 years old.
Okay, so that's back in the previous descending Dwapara Yuga, okay?
The Bronze Age, the previous descending Bronze Age.
We're now in the ascending Bronze Age.
So Hurrian, okay, so we've got the descending silver.
Okay, so there's the golden age, the last golden age.
And here's the descending silver, then the descending bronze, then we're into the Kali Yuga, and then we start going up in the ascent again.
And so here we have bronze, bronze, and then silver.
Okay, so we're right here, right down there now, okay?
But 5,000 years back, somewhere in that area, in the descending Bronze Age, was a group of people that called themselves, or at least as far as we know, that we now call Hurrian.
Okay.
And we know most of our stuff about Hurrian, not because we have a lot of stuff in that language or about that language, but because we have a lot of reports, or not, I mean, okay, I say a lot.
We have some.
All this stuff is sparse and minuscule, and you got to work your ass off to get into it.
But we have Avastan, which is a precursor to Sanskrit and also coexisted with Sanskrit for a long time.
Anyway, and that references some of the Hurrian stuff, okay?
And so what I wanted to get into was this concept of the J-Du, all right?
Which is, I think, it's where we get the Jedi stuff from.
But it's JADU.
Now, it's a long vowel and a long U. Okay, so J-Du is a word that comes to us from Hurrian and comes all the way up to Farsi.
And we have this word in Farsi now as J-Du-Gar.
Gar is a word that means, in Hurrian, it means doer in the body.
It's a very interesting word, okay?
Because Gar is not a person.
Although nowadays, in some of these languages up in here, they just translated it as meant a person.
And that was not what the Hurrians meant by that, okay?
The Hurrians meant by that, very specifically, local consciousness, that which motivates the body.
So the technical definition for the Gar word is doer in the body, the person that, you know, the being that moves the body of the person into and doing all of this stuff, right?
Because without that, that, without local consciousness, there is no motive action.
There's no movement or anything.
Basically, you're dead or you're unconscious.
Okay, so the Hurrians were very sophisticated this way.
It's really striking.
Okay, now it's not a mystery to me because I know that they were coming from a much more advanced age and that we were all dropping down into the stupid years of the Kali Yuga down here.
And so Hurrian back in this, I bet you that the information we get out of Hurrian by way of Avastan and Sanskrit goes way back into the golden age and was part of a much, much more rich and sophisticated understanding.
But anyway, so these primitive people, the Hurrian guys, had a very complex understanding of what we would think of as like metaphysical shit.
Okay.
And in Hurrian, they defined a spot, a space.
Okay, it's not a place, or it is a place and can also be thought of as a space, but it's not material.
So for the Hurrians, okay, so let me say that in Farsi, and most of these top four languages from Old Persian onward, would define Jedugar or Yedugar, so Jedu, Jedi, you know, it would define them as a magician.
That's not what the Hurrians meant by that word, okay?
Because this was because this, the Jedu, is a place.
And I understand why these other languages define it that way, because Jedu is the place from which our concept of magic arises.
Okay, so get this.
The Jedu is the space, or it's the place immediately on the other side of the life-death barrier.
So it doesn't have a referential point.
It's not like you can say it's over in that other room, right?
But it very definitely exists because you're going to go there and you're going to find it when you die, all right?
Everybody does.
And so the Jedugar, the Jedi, are those doer in the body that in the term of the Hurrians are exploring this place on the other side of the life-death barrier.
And they had it defined, okay?
But it's not a definition.
They had quite clearly defined it.
And I actually think a lot of our understanding of meditation arises from these people.
But anyway, they had it defined.
And you can't, so in their culture, I'm imagining, because we don't have a ton of stuff from them, but I'm imagining that this thing is widespread enough that it appears in many different other languages all referencing back to them this concept.
But I'm imagining that it was widespread enough that the word was would be taken as basically a socially understood reference.
So you could say, oh, you know, where's your cousin?
Oh, he's thinking about doing a trip in the Jedu.
And that would be, that would make sense to somebody, right?
But anyway, the Jedugar were the people that explored this area on the other side of the life and death barrier.
From my reading, I'm pretty convinced that that's the same place that I call hyperspace that I explored with psychedelics.
The Jedugar were defined as those people that had a space in time, okay?
And that space was 33 hours.
And so there's a lot of, we have 33 segments in our spine, the Freemasons and all these people get all bent out of shape about the number 33.
David Wilcock goes crazy about it.
All of these kind of people, right?
It's supposedly a power number in this kind of thing.
Anyway, though, so 33 hours after you died, you had to come back, or you didn't come back, okay?
So there was no 34-hour Jedugar.
All the Jedugar made it back within 33 hours.
There's reasons to suspect you cannot come back if you're there longer than 33 hours for a lot of different reasons.
But these people were mapping it out.
So they had an approach and a way of getting into hyperspace that either involved psychedelics or it involves something like self-suffocation or who the hell knows what kind of bizarre shit they were in.
Or maybe it was because they were coming out of the more golden age and they had some kind of technology, some kind of machinery.
In any event, though, so this idea of getting new forms of measurement,
a new understanding of what used what is still currently thought of as Cartesian space, but getting a new understanding of that such that this understanding converts that complicated understanding of our three-dimensional space into a complexity is also tied in to all of this shit here.
So, okay, so it's I'm making some assumptions, and I'm making some assumptions relative to what I've read about what these people did and what they went through, and the fact that this has a particular language history, and all of this stuff coming up relative to the TM and the melee with the UFOs, right?
And I'm relating all those together and coming up to this forecast that goes way back into the 2009,
also was reaffirmed in 2019, and was actually, we were able to, I think it was probably 2017, and we were able to apply a descriptor to it that made some sense, okay?
So along with the melee and all this other stuff going on, the visible contention and then whatever the hell is happening here on the planet, somewhere, somewhere on Earth, a human or a group of humans, or maybe it's already been done and we'll find out about it in that period of time, they're going to discover this like intergalactic inner web.
So in other words, they will discover that there's communications going on constantly around us.
And to a certain extent, what we think of as Akashic records may be a concept that could be applied to vast galactic civilizations talking to themselves and to each other and putting data out in a particular space that is, in my opinion, I think it's transiting through hyperspace, I think that comes into it.
But anyway, we'll discover this level of communications.
And I'm of the opinion, I've got a couple of quick opinions that are going to annoy people, but I'm of the opinion that our discovery of that confirms to us why we annoy the UFOs, okay?
Because the entire intergalactic inner web kind of internet is taken down when we set off atom bombs, right?
It'd be like your annoying neighbor going out there and firing off his shotgun, and every time he shoots his shotgun, he'd shoot the cable line that brought the internet to your house.
So your internet would go down because he shot his shotgun off, right?
And his aim was bad, etc., etc.
And so we may be like that annoying neighbor getting drunk and going out with his shotgun and just shooting at shit and bringing down the internet when we set off our nuclear explosions.
Okay, so I think we're disruptive at that level, not merely disrupting their navigation systems and so on.
I think it's much broader than that, much bigger than that.
So it makes us a real pain in the ass, okay?
Anyway, so I think that that will show up, that that aspect of this will discover this vast, incredibly deep, incredibly wide storehouse of knowledge.
We won't be able to open it up necessarily right away.
And, you know, like I say, we won't even understand what Pleiadian porn is when we see it.
You know, we might think it's a gardening show for all that.
We just don't know.
Anyway, so I think that that is all coincident with the melee set.
So the melee set is a temporal marker for the stuff that comes beyond it.
And this is an intro into sci-fi world as this understanding and being able to at least know that this giant internet is out there.
Okay, so that was the one thing there.
Hang on a second.
I've got some more notes.
I just don't want to get into a lot of this.
It's going to take too long.
Yeah, I think that's about it.
I won't do my bitching and stuff at this point.
There's no point to really getting into it.
But it's going to be very exciting.
Bear in mind you need to keep your proximity alarms ready, you know, ready to go off, that kind of thing.
It's going to be quite chaotic for these next while.
And also bear in mind that the conditions that create melee all come down to the lack of control, no longer any kind of ability to transmit information from command to the troops in the field, right?
So I'm expecting that we may be participating and causing those events by using some kind of nuclear who's he was it's up here in this visible contention that then actually creates the melee situation by taking all of the UFOs that are now gathered around here for whatever their purposes are and disconnecting them from their main headquarters inadvertently.
So there's a lot of complexity in this and I'm getting tired and my pie is still warm so I'm going to go have some.
Anyway guys take care.
Just wanted to point out how weird time was especially with temporal markers and stuff.
But because of our timing clues it's much better for us to rely on a temporal marker and then we could say oh a temporal marker is going to show up in 2019 and it doesn't.
Instead it shows up in 2024 but all of those sets that are connected to it also will be showing up in 2024.
So that's really the concept to take away from it.
Oh and also if you're having trouble sleeping try the pure sleep works for most people.
There are some people that it doesn't for some reasons.