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Oct. 23, 2013 - Clif High
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20131023 – Clif High Audio #42
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Yes, good afternoon.
It's 2.44 PM on October 23rd, 2013.
Short Wujo just because of the sheer number of requests about the subject, and I can get it done today because of the circumstances will allow it.
Before I get into the that, which is all about meditation and spinning and stuff, a couple of things to consider here.
It's October, it's fall here in the northern hemisphere.
Leaves are turning in some places, extended summer and others the leaves have yet to really react on the deciduous trees.
But as a sign of the times, radiation levels are way up.
Our favorite Fuchan friend Fukushima is Fukinus all with some more Fucon radiation.
And the radiation levels are quite high, so we have to consider what to do about it.
It's not going to go away.
The assholes in charge of things won't apply the correct technology to deal with it.
And believe me, if they're investigating time at all, I've got a method using the construction of a time differential as little as one nanosecond that would allow us to isolate the things.
However, hang on just a second, I've got to go get my tea.
Okay, tea retrieved.
Back on the subject of radiation from our Fukan friends in Fukushima.
And believe me, I'm not angry at the Japanese.
I feel very sorry for them.
It's a terrible situation and absent a let's call it a next level solution.
The minion class of bumbling politicians and you know basic asshole corporate guys are not going to solve this problem.
We need to apply a really serious level of technological escalation at it, and that's not merely running around like primitives dumping uh boron on it.
It's too late for that in any event.
That should have been done within the first day.
So here we are on the west coast of uh North America, and we're getting uh really hit hard by the radiation.
And uh we know this, we know it's gonna shorten lifespan, uh, but uh it need not if we behave um uh appropriately given the circumstances.
And so most or a lot of people won't behave appropriately because you can't see radiation, and there's uh no government agency telling them uh uh to worry, and they're you know programmed only to react to the official uh version of things.
So if that is not you, which is probably the case if you're listening to this, then here's some thoughts you can um pursue, some areas to do research on it relative to uh radiation and your hazards.
Note uh that distance from the west coast doesn't save you because of the way that things are going.
We've got um uh mutation showing up as far away as New Jersey in this past year's crops.
Uh a lot of which the rate of mutation is way up, and it the cause is radiation, whether the radiation is Fukushima or solar, you know, space borne is immaterial, there's radiation to deal with.
Now, the issue with um Fukushima is that it's ionizing radiation.
And so let me uh see if I can explain that in a way that makes sense.
Ionizing radiation is harsh.
Uh some radiation, like gamma radiation, while it will tear through the air and it will leave ion uh problems behind it, um in its wake, it is not ionizing in and of itself as a radiative type relative to organic life forms.
It goes right through us.
Gamma radiation would uh uh particle or beam, however you want to think about it, wave, would pass through your um the standing energy wave that is your body and you'd never even know it.
Uh the odds are uh very unlikely it would ever strike anything that would in any way be critical to you.
And should it do so, its uh speed of passage and so on would be so rapid that you know it would go right through a blood cell and not necessarily even cause um the fibrin to React to start clotting.
So there's various different kinds of radiation.
The Fukushima type, that's the nasty kind, the mutation causing kind.
Primarily, gamma radiations can cause mutations as well, if they were to damage DNA or disturb RNA balances.
But the ionizing radiation from Fukushima is really dangerous because it basically is continually causing the disruption of the molecules in its presence to degrade into ionized forms of themselves.
So you would have a hydrogen ion instead of a complete hydrogen molecule.
And hydrogen isn't so particularly dangerous as an as an ion.
as a positive ion, it wouldn't do you any good to inhale it, but it wouldn't kill you or anything.
The issue of the ionizing radiation, though, is that it causes the oxygen, carbon, magnesium, iron, Every damn thing to ionize.
And so all parts of your body would be affected, and for the most part, you would find that a great deal of these ions were bad for your body because they were positive ions.
So this is where it gets tricky because I don't want to I I'm gonna say the statement, and it's gonna sound like it doesn't make any sense, but it really does.
It is negative for your body that these ions are positive.
Your body prefers and does best with negative ions, which is actually attached to one of the to the latter half of this, uh which is all about the spin, because negative ions spin the same way your body does.
Positive ions spin the other way.
So we're we're quasi rational biped, uh mostly uh symmetrical, bilaterally symmetrical uh vertebrate beings uh with a congealed mass of or semi-congealed mass of emulsified um uh proteins and amino acids uh for a thinking apparatus.
And uh uh we're faced with all of these radiations coming in.
We've got to decide how we're going to uh react to them.
Some of the things we can do, well, we can alter our diets.
Uh diet is really key because here's the here's the thing, let's start go back to a higher level.
Sorry about that.
Um there's four ways that we deal with radiation in our bodies.
Uh five ways uh actually, the fifth way is to simply accept it because we can't deal with it, uh, you know.
Uh but there's four ways that our body tries to deal with it, and that's through um uh uh respiration, uh urination, uh, elimination, and perspiration.
And uh basically that's the four ways your body detoxes.
Uh this is the way the material body uh takes all of the products of the combustion of um of energy that you use to make yourself move and walk around or sit and pump blood if you're a couch potato, but nonetheless, it's taking energy to just exist, and the waste products of that are taken out through these four particular ways, because it's the only way you've got, and uh excepting that they to a certain extent the waste products can be put into hair.
Um and so that's why hair testing is uh reasonably decent for finding out, you know, the past history of what's happened to your body.
In any event, though, so uh we've got uh respiration, everybody's out there breathing.
Well, it actually makes sense to do things that can um increase your respiration, uh, so that you're uh breathing more in terms of volume and that you're breathing in a way that is more cleansing.
So just looking in so far as the radiation now, this is all we're talking about at the moment.
And it it while it some of these things may be generally applicable for regular kinds of pollution like you might find in China or industrial areas, this kind of thing, uh not all of them are.
Uh, some of them are quite specifically focused on uh uh radiative uh pollution in your environment, but uh so taking respiration.
You need to do things that can increase your respiration so that you have a faster turnover of air.
But there's a downside to this if you're doing it out in an environment that is radioactive, meaning you're gonna pump more radioactive material through your lungs.
So you have to be careful the circumstances under which and where you're doing this extra respiration.
Uh that said, There are things that you can do to increase the quality of respiration.
That's such things as uh astrologus root if you can take it and other uh products, uh other um not homeopathic, other um ayurvedic or uh traditional Chinese medicine kind of uh products that actually will stimulate the cili and the lungs to greater effort.
Now, be advised there could be a downside if you take these things uh too frequently too much and uh they're too potent for your body, everybody is different.
So be advised you're experimenting with yourself and you can cause yourself harm if you're an asshole.
And so you have to approach this stuff gently.
You we always follow the first rule of uh doing any kind of um uh monkeying about with our um uh constitutions here, and that is ahimsa, do no harm.
Okay, so if you're gonna try Austrollogus root, try a little bit, and try a little bit more the next day and so on, and you'll see the effect of it.
Uh it causes the cellite to work more, and you'll cough more, and so you'll cough up a lot of material.
But that's the thing.
You'll find yourself coughing more frequently.
And for some people, lung issues uh could arise and so on if you take too much of it.
It is somewhat self-limiting, but there are so there are many products that'll cause the respiration to increase in quality by causing more material to be coughed up under these circumstances.
I find those these things to be a good thing, uh, even though they have somewhat of a downside, which is your coughing a lot.
That you're also exercising your lungs more, the cell are moving more, um, and a sort of a trade-off, but they are indeed helping you move out any materials that might otherwise decide to lodge in your lungs, and some of these things might be radioactive, but even if they're not, uh, you know, things like secondhand smoke and all the other pollutants, chemtrails, um, all of this kind of nano crap, all of that stuff, it would be good to cough up.
So astrologous root and the other traditional Chinese medicines that you can find that are specific for lung function.
And there's a great number of tonics, by the way, uh Shizandra, uh Jiagolin, um other forms of gynostema, uh, some other herbs that are all will all affect the lungs.
Astrologus root is interesting because it affects the lungs primarily and does not appear to have much in the way of any other effect except it may cause the liver and kidneys to ever so slightly increase their production.
Um but I think that's probably just to get rid of the toxins that are because it's a detoxifying agent.
So what you're after is something that will um accentuate the ability of the body to shed uh the toxins.
And so uh you can do uh purges if you go through that if you need that for the elimination part.
It's dangerous, by the way, to m to increase the um uh amount of um urination you're gonna be doing, so you've got to be real careful there.
It's it you have to make sure, especially if you're an old man and you've got prostate issues, uh you've got to make sure that you're uh you've got good flow so that nothing is blocking and you're not storing up anything that's potentially radioactive because the body will take those products that it can scrub out of you, and it'll dump them either into the colon or into the kidneys to get rid of them.
And so you have to be careful about um accelerating urination and causing problems that way in the whole plumbing system, but nonetheless, you don't want to be complacent uh about um uh not flushing out your system uh these days.
Now the last one here is perspiration, and that's an issue for old people, especially uh those of us you know over 40 or whatever these these days and in uh this particular world, relative to how, and also maybe even really young people.
But uh as an old guy, I've got to really, really really work uh to work up a good sweat because it uh you know takes the maybe the eighty-pound kettlebell and the sixty-one together uh to get the heart going enough to cause the sweat reaction.
I can enhance that with such things as peppers uh to open up the pores and so on, but that's not a long-term solution, it's not sustainable, those are not tonics.
Uh they're uh shock kind of a um I forget the term at the moment, uh propyotic, I believe.
Um they're a shock treatment to the body and they cause the nerve endings to react uh and certain things to occur.
But you can't do it all the time.
Uh you can do it all the time to a certain level, but of course uh uh with peppers, like with any of those other uh triggering catalytic substances, they become less effective over time, you become um immune and inured to their effects, and so they lose their potency.
Uh This is not true though.
I've I've done a lot of research and done some thinking about it.
And it's not true relative to sweating if you do the indigenous population approach.
And I'm not talking sweat lodges with the smoke kind of a thing, although that's the even uh the source of um early finish uh saunas is a sweat sauna, a smoke sauna.
But I am talking about uh doing saunas and steams because they cause the pores to open and they also cause interesting effects relative to the upper layers of the well, actually all of it, the entire dermal structure, your skin structure all the way down to its supporting cells, uh, are affected positively by the uh sweating process, and especially in a sauna that's um uh the old traditional style where it's actual heat, non-infrared.
The reason being that the heat itself causes the capillaries to react in a way that the infrared does not.
Infrared is kind of like being cooked by microwaves in the sense that it penetrates you and is not affecting the air around you.
So it does not increase the it doesn't blast your lungs the way the hot sauna does.
Um and the same thing as of a steam room, both of those hit the lungs, cause the respiration to increase, they also open up all the pores and affect you in a way that the infrared systems do not.
My further bitch about the infrared system is all of the electromagnetic pollution you're getting being in a in enclosed box with the ballasts that generate the infrared spectrum that you're dealing with.
So it would be better to, you know, go and build a wiki up with a bunch of branches and um uh get a fire going in there, get the fire really hot with a bunch of rocks on it, let the fire die down, go on in there and sweat it out with the rocks and then douse them with some water, in my opinion, than it would be to use one of the infrared boxes.
I understand this is not really a um uh potential for people living in cities, there you know, not too many tree branches lying around to make wiki ups and your your neighbors might object to building one out in the hall of your building.
Uh so I understand the infrared has a per a place, but uh they don't accomplish in this sense what you need to have done, which is the uh they do cause you to sweat, and they do cause the increase in the uh heart rate and so on, but they don't cause capillary sweating swelling the same way, they don't extend the flexibility of the blood system the same way that the traditional heat saunas do.
So you're better off with a heat sauna if you can find it.
Even only you know uh once or twice a month would be uh quite beneficial, depending on your radiation exposure.
Uh and your age.
There's the there's the issue.
The older you get, the harder it is to raise your uh uh body core temperature up to the point where you get these sweats, and therefore the artificial means of the sauna is necessary.
If you're uh a young person, you may be able to do 20 minutes of calisthenics, uh, be sweating like um uh proverbial Niagara Falls and have purged out uh whatever your skin, the largest organ you have, uh has accumulated in the way of radioactive material.
And bear in mind the skin is composed of basically two-way passages that will admit radioactive material because they also have to react to and admit gases and expel gases.
So and the radioactive material can come in on gases.
So uh insofar as the perspiration goes, if you're young, you know, now's the time to really take up calisthenics.
Uh get onto YouTube, uh pop in calisthenics as a uh search term and look at what the people around the planet are doing and start emulating them.
Even if you're you know a fat ball of blubber in a short period of time doing this stuff, you won't be.
And it doesn't require any money.
The parks already exist if you want to go on out and have further radioaction radioactivity exposure.
But you can also do this, uh it's all body weight exercises, so you don't need any equipment.
Uh but basically the idea is that you know you want to uh uh get rid of the stuff, get rid of the uh radiation that that isn't uh starting to saturate our environment at a higher higher level.
Now this is of concern at the moment because of recent readings that have been uh taken in Puget Sound and all up and down the west coast, that basically nobody's talking about.
Uh living near several of the stations, it's possible for me to see the radioactivity levels, and it's gotten so bad that I actually won't even turn on my Geiger counter anymore, uh my rad meter simply because it uh tendency to make you crazy.
You get frustrated, you know, really, really, really frustrated.
Uh so I'm taking what steps I can.
Alright, so now we've dealt with that, let's quickly deal with our diets.
Uh the diet is is also connected to the elimination part, obviously, what you put in your mouth has to come out the other end of the elementary canal.
You'll find that uh because your body wants to take all the detoxins and dump them into the colon, uh what you can do with your diet to aid you uh is too threefold.
Okay, you can eat things that provide regular antioxidants, um uh, you know, such as uh vitamin E laden foods.
Uh stay away now from fish though, because they're gonna be uh radioactive.
Uh if you can find any, the whole uh sardine fleets are coming back empty-handed, all of the seafoods dying off the coast of the Pacific.
It's really, really terrible here.
Uh but okay, so you can get vitamin re uh rich foods, antioxidant rich foods, vitamin C rich foods, take extra vitamins.
Um you can also uh eat products that will assist in getting rid of the stuff out of the colon.
So eat a lot of oats, uh, if you can stand it, you can um crush up the uh flax seed.
Flax seeds good for you anyway, because of the omega-3 versus omega-6 ratios.
Um then the uh the last I mean, there's a lot of different things along those lines.
In other words, uh pursue those as um a hint towards a layer of vertical research.
Look into those things that assist your body in getting rid of uh toxic material, like for instance, oats can um uh have uh an opening on the end of the actual oat fiber such that as it goes through the system will pick up little fat globules.
The fat globules are are adhering to the uh this um uh triplet or triplex formation that occurs when the oat fiber goes through the digestive process, and it sort of sucks them up like a little vacuum clinger or wand, really.
It looks like a little wand and it picks up this uh fat fiber or fat uh globule, and many of these fat globules you will note uh have been placed there to be picked up in the cholesterol process by your body because it's found something it didn't want in it.
And so it surrounds it.
The inflammation process uh calls cholesterol into being to go and surround the crud and uh keep it isolated, and eventually that works it over to the place where it can get rid of it, either uh throwing it up to the cell eye to uh get rid of it that way, or it's close enough to the skin, it tries to get it out through the skin, or you uh find it in your colon, or you pee it out in your through your kidneys.
Now, um so you can get all different kinds of things that will assist in scrubbing the colon as you go along what you're after is something you can do sustainably, because it's gonna be around us for a long time.
So you don't want to do uh think you're gonna be doing purges every day, and that's gonna help.
You'll do purges for 19 days and you'll drop over dead because you'll have stripped all the minerals out of your system and uh that kind of thing.
Uh so what you're looking for is you know, altering your diet to eat more oats, eat more of the bran fibers from rice and this kind of thing, so that you have the material available to the actual fiber there to assist in scrubbing through the body.
Other things you can do are include the increase in the cuciferous vegetables that are actually anti-cancer vegetables like broccoli and so on.
If you don't like broccoli, maybe you can stomach broccoli sprouts.
Real uh hidden key here is that the sprout will have as much anti-cancer uh fighting stuff in it, I think, by day eighteen as the full plant does.
And um mostly you get 80 to 90% of it if you eat the sprout by day seven.
And so it's just hugely good for you to eat the broccoli sprouts.
It's like uh eating you know condensed broccoli plants.
There's a lot of anti-cancer um plants out there, so find those that suit your your diet and include them on a daily basis.
And a lot of them, of course, will also bring in fiber that will help and so on.
So it's um uh symbiotic and uh combinoric uh good thing to do this for yourself, the altering of the diet.
Then the last part is you can do specific things against radiation.
So there's specific substances like um the plant Melissa, also known as lemon balm.
Uh you take that as a T and it has uh uh anti it has guarding effects against the ionizing component of the kind of radiation that we're getting from Fukushima.
It also, by the way, is a calming agent for you, so it's really cool because you're gonna be far less uh likely to um uh flip out in frustration over it all.
Um and it aids the skin, so it makes the skin nice and soft.
Uh and also with the skin, it open helps open up the pores and get rid of any material of the yada yada yada because they're all commonoric, any of the natural stuff.
Uh so see, basically that's one of the deals, uh, one of the ways to tell whether you're dealing with evidence-based medicine or faith-based medicine.
Evidence medicine is uh based medicine is like the Chinese medicine.
It's combinoric.
You take one one thing and it aids you in five or six different ways.
Uh, you know, so you take oatmeal and it aids you in five or six different ways.
You eat broccoli, it aids you in five or six different ways.
Faith-based medicine is is uh what they sell out of the big pharma where they say, uh, yo, uh sheeple, have faith that if you can survive five or six weeks of the of these Fuckin' side effects, your life will be better.
Mostly you won't survive the side effects, or by the time the side effects have uh come around five or six later, you uh five five or six weeks later you will have forgotten why you started taking that thing because you will feel so ill in five or six uh different ways.
Different different ways, then you'll be on to other doctors seeking other pills.
Uh so you know, uh uh faith-based medicine uh brings with it the promise of one symptom in exchange for 30 or 40 more.
Uh so it's not combinoric, sort of like anticombinoric, uh strips away from you in every in other different ways.
Uh, you know, and I laugh about it, but I've we've suffered here uh for the past decades with my wife's health and the and smacking into these uh in the big pharma and modern uh physicians.
Uh any in any event.
So uh Melissa, the lemon balm, uh two cups of tea a day, eight ounces of water, let it steep, doesn't even have to be all that hot.
Uh you can let it seep overnight if you want a cold drink, it's quite refreshing.
You include it with other tea, so you don't even have taste.
There's a lot of, if you go and research it, there are a lot of different kinds of herbs that are specifically anti um uh radioactive, um, in the sense that they work against some component of the radioactive damage, either in guarding it in your body or in the case of Melissa, uh dealing with the oxidizing effects uh sort of ahead of time as they're starting to arise.
And then uh again, that's combinoric because it gives you the other benefits.
So that's the little little thing about um uh the Fukushima and what we can do there and so on.
Now, the real uh point of the talk here, the whole point of opening up the software was to give a discussion because I've had so many requests about this spinning business and meditation.
And I'll get to it in a half a second here.
Okay, so geez, where to start.
Okay, so in the early 80s, uh having been into martial arts for a number of years and done all kinds of meditation and explored uh just because I was fascinated with the subject the science of yoga.
I'd been doing yoga since I was eleven, so I was focused that way anyway.
I started doing um uh serious meditative uh practice.
I'd gone through the uh some of the uh candle or focusing um kinds of meditation, gone through Vipazna, some of the other kinds of insight meditation, gone back to some of the physical manifestation meditations, and I'm I'm basically walking around one day.
And I um uh the meditation was fine, it was it was functioning, but as with all of these things, you get into it's a plateau issue, right?
You get a uh uh initial burst of uh success and you reach a plateau.
And this is the way of the universe.
Unless you stick with it, walk across that entire plateau.
You're not gonna get another burst of uh success.
And you get another burst of success and you get to another plateau.
One of the, and then you have to walk across it.
Now, one of the things about mastery in anything, uh that you can then translate to mastery in any other thing, is that you understand the process of mastering a subject or a skill or a concept or whatever.
And uh because you recognize that there's a process, a flow to the learning, and that you have to have these recovery periods.
It's uh hormetic in that sense.
You stress the heart out and allow it to recover.
And you stress the heart out and you allow it to recover.
That's at the core of the martial arts experience.
It's not full-on um uh bash bash bash with your heart going full bore there for an hour and a half.
It's not endurance specifically, not running um 15 miles in a day or five miles, that kind of thing.
It is a uh bring the heart rate up, let it go down, bring it up, let it go down with parts of recovery in between.
This is how you strengthen things, right?
You because basically your body thinks, oh geez, I better get tougher, that son of a bitch may do this again tomorrow, you know, or in five minutes.
And so your body reacts by making you a little bit tougher that way.
If you're doing endurance stuff, in my opinion, in my understanding and my experience, um it just wears you down.
Uh because you don't have that recovery, the body says, Well, I only have to be this good, I only have to survive this endurance level continuously for four hours and then it's done, and then or eight hours or whatever it is you're you're doing with your endurance uh training.
And uh the body never attempts to recover more than that.
But if it's uh but if I'm gonna as opposed to the approach I've got or a lot of other people, which is that you know, I'm gonna shock my system tomorrow with as high a workload level as I can uh such that it will be afraid I'll do it a little bit harder the next day, and so it'll prepare for that, uh, as opposed to just maintaining the same number of reps and the same um level of output and so on.
Um, I've done that with bicycle rides and so on.
I used to ride my bike extensively, and I would do um uh this because of the forced by circumstances, writing to work, not having the hours to do serious training on the bike, you'd fall into routines, and it's the routines and the uh endurance stuff that basically degrade the system without any corresponding um uh overcompensation required so that you get better.
Um in any event, so uh I'd been doing the meditation, and in the as I say, in the early eighties, and I actually uh physically woke up one morning uh as uh out of a uh sound sleep as a result of a violent, violent episode of vertigo.
So violent that with my eyes closed, the uh whole universe was spinning, and I had to grip the bed to keep myself from seemingly uh uh spinning along with it,
uh, because my body also wanted to be involved with this, and it was just literally uh intestinally racking, gut wrenching in that sense, and you wanted to throw up, and uh uh I couldn't open up my eyes at that time without uh transiting, having to transit through the spin part of things, and uh once my eyes were open, I was sort of okay.
I was desperately afraid to close them at again, and it was so violent that it it it basically propelled me to roll myself out of bed and clutch the floor as though the planet itself had become unhinged in the universe and was spinning around.
Um it was extremely it was so violent that uh uh my wife figured that there was something uh more wrong with me than usual, and I couldn't disagree with any uh veheminance.
Uh so we went to the to the emergency room because you know I was really a basket case, couldn't stand up, could uh hardly walk, could not walk without assistance, uh had to uh ride in into the hospital in the back seat, uh virtually throwing up the whole time because everything is spinning and every movement aggravated it.
In any event we get to the hospital, everything continues to spin, I try and describe it to them, and they uh figure he's got low blood sugar, so they jab me with an IV and sh and give me a bunch of saline with some kind of you know extra sugar in it or something, and it caused scarring in the vein that they chose, uh, did not solve the problem, but I realized in attempting to describe it to them that it was something stranger than what they were prepared to accept.
Uh because I couldn't get across to him.
They said I couldn't get across to him what was actually occurring.
The doctor would look at me and he says, Well, you know, is the room spinning?
And it's like uh not with my eyes open, and I'd close my eyes, and then universe spun, and uh and my body instantly became tried to become instantly involved with it, and so I'd have to grasp onto something for fear that I would also start spinning in this clockwise direction relative to how my uh relative to my uh face so to speak and so um so they thought that it was some kind of a vertigo not induced by um uh the little rocks in your ears uh getting
loose but uh by uh extreme low blood sugar and uh you know that was their first shot at it and so they kind of kicked me out as a result of that but in in the process of trying to make sense out of this over the next couple of days I realized that A it wasn't uh however violent and compelling it was with the on my eyes open I could sort of function without too much trouble and um I'd often trained myself to go long times without blinking anyway both for the martial arts and for meditative processes.
So it wasn't a big deal that way.
It was at nighttime when uh or whenever you would close your eyes that would become so overpowering uh that uh you know you'd be at risk of losing your dinner.
And uh so that was a little disconcerting for a couple of days, but it it I went through a process of uh grasping what was going on and redefining uh what was happening relative to my perception and then I understood what was uh the relationship of the spinning in my mind to the um uh reaction of my body and I was able to get beyond this uh I was still spinning
whenever I would close my eyes but I was able to uh overpower that uh sense of uh body compelled to whip around in the same direction of the spin by uh certain meditative processes at the same time acknowledging and allowing the spin to continue.
And so basically I allowed it to spin through me if that makes any sense and not try and grasp onto my core which wanted to propel my body along with the spin and cause the upset.
And so I became accommodated to the spin it never went away and thus at that point I started to, as with all things in reality, since this was now part of my new reality, I started to analyze it.
And I noticed a certain amount of things relative to it.
In terms of the the spin itself was more powerful in the presence of water I could actually uh sit too close to electrical outlets such that that would boost the feeling of it.
If it was it was disconcerting if I was trying to concentrate on something uh like reading and had to um engage my mind in too uh disconnected or abstract a thought it would also those kind of uh situations would also tend to force me into the state or or get me so close that I would have to fight to stay out of it.
Over time and we're talking like early 80s that this occurred maybe between eighty one and eighty two or something like that.
83 maybe I had that first occurrence.
And over time I got to the realization of how to deal with the spin and and how to go to sleep around it and how to wake up around it and um these kind of things and I started incorporating it into the meditative process.
And it was only years later that you know because I'm a slow uh dumb son of a bitch uh that it dawned on me that oh geez I know what's going on now.
And perhaps it was because of the process that I was dumb relative to this occurrence.
But the um what was going on was I was experiencing my my chakra spinning and the reason that I had such a hard time initially that first time that first day that I became aware of my chakra spinning was that it was my very base chakra, the Muladahara that had started the spin process or or that I'd become aware of in in the spinning.
It's our grosser, more connected level one.
And of course, it's down at the base of the spine.
And so it has a tendency to want to whip the whole body around as it's going.
And so it dawned on me as we, the spinning and I, have gone through these past decades that it wasn't spinning at the same rate all the time.
It felt different.
It felt as though it was occurring in different parts of my body.
It actually aided my being able to view different parts of my energy body by how those parts were related to the spin and how they reacted to the spin.
It actually aided my Aikido because I had over.
overcome this tendency to go um whirl about uh with my eyes closed and so I got to be very good at balance even though I was old uh or aging uh And that uh you know it had a it paid off in many ways.
It was debilitating in some ways.
It uh it was very frustrating for a number of years trying to understand what was occurring, because it's so borderline down there in the Mulla de Hardra uh between metaphysical and physical and connects both, and it's um so grabbing, and you know, it's your it's your well, it's your basic intestinal you know, grab you by the perineum and the base part of your uh sacrum and whirl your or your body around uh chakra.
It's your lowest possible level, it's your densest connection, and that was the one that for whatever reason the universe chose to have me start uh with the spinning.
And I didn't realize, as I say, until you know 15 years later, 20 years later, that it was the actually the chakras that I was experiencing.
But over time the rate of spin changed, and it was actually because the what was going on was the consciousness, the awareness was floating up from each of the chakras, and they all spin at different rates, and they all have different pedal arrangements and uh different functions in reality, and then it even turns out the one in the around the thyroid up in the neck, it was at a different angle.
That really was quite the shock after all these years I'd become used to uh experiencing the spin and in a more or less uh parallel to the surface of the planet kind of relationship to my body.
So, you know, it was perpendicular to the elements of my spine, if you will.
And so it got up to the thyroid, and it's like, whoa, hey, this bugger is at an angle.
Uh it was also a different experience because of the rate of speed up there.
Um then, of course, it's you know, working up towards the um uh the well okay.
It gets really tricky when you start talking about it here.
Uh it's working its way up towards the ultimate um uh chakra at the top of the head, the you know, thousand point lotus, not really a thousand points, it's slightly less than that in the eight hundreds.
And um uh I've got to go through the third eye chakra before I get there.
And that's been activated.
Uh and it spins now too, and that may also be the point at which I discovered that it was possible.
Um, no, it was earlier than that.
It was about in the heart chakra, up above the spleen and into the heart chakra.
That's when I discovered you could turn the thing backwards.
And uh and through an act of will you could reverse the spin.
Now, there's some interesting things about the spin, and this is why we're having this whole wujo discussion, uh, because there's been a number of uh people that have asked for a more cohesive um concentrated view on this.
Um you can get to the spin in a number of different ways I've read.
Uh there are a number of techniques to get at it.
Uh the spinning um can be achieved uh through uh visualization in the sense of actually seeing light, this this false light that or not false light, it's called false light by the psych psychiatrist or a bunch of dumb fuckers.
Uh but this light that is actually your uh retinal cones manifesting, being created uh that is behind your eyelids when you close your eyes.
That's where the spin occurs.
It's actually on the surface of those cones and rods, and it's at that point of creation.
You can also do it slightly back in the sense of you can have your perception slightly deeper into the body, and I think that what you're actually doing right there is at the base of the eyes where the uh mini nerves of the cones and the rods uh collect to become the optic nerve.
And so I think that you're able to actually perceive the spin uh at that point.
I find it's it's better to perceive that the spin there if I want to go into the stream that then at its closer to the surface part of the energy body, but uh just a second.
So um yeah, so uh somewhere around there in the heart chakra.
So I'm sitting there over the years, and the spin has become part of my life.
I I don't think I've ever told anybody Kathy was aware of it uh because you know it made me sick with the vertigo there for a while, and we had to figure out what's going on, and then when I told her what I thought was going on, of course she thought I was crazy, but at least I had an explanation that made uh me happy, so she was happy.
Anyway, um so uh uh about the point that somewhere in the round the heart chakra, uh as I was rising up into it or had passed through it already, I don't remember accurately, uh I uh one day it occurred to me, and I and I don't know if it was because I had read something or it was because I had already started going out onto the stream and I'd learned something out there, but but I decided, well, I'll try and reverse the spin.
Try and stop it, and then I'll try and reverse it.
Uh And I was able to accomplish both.
I was able to stop the spin.
That's not a very good feeling.
You can do that.
You're not actually stopping the spin of your chakra, I'm quite convinced of that.
You're stopping the ability to perceive it at that boundary layer of the retinal creation.
Okay, so the chakras are still spinning, but uh what actually goes on there where you're controlling it, you're not you're not in there reaching down into the uh mulatahara, for instance, all the way down at the base of your spine, and either and stopping that chakra.
I believe that to be an impossibility for life anyway.
But what you are doing is you're uh extending your consciousness forward into where the um uh your eyes and your optic nerves are actually being created in this continuous creation destruction uh model of reality in which they're being created 22 trillion times a second and destroyed 22 trillion times a second, and you're only able to perceive them as solid because our poor brains work at uh 24 frames uh per second up to 60 frames uh a second.
And so we just you know, we miss so much because it's operating at trillions of times.
But uh so that's where you're affecting the spin is at that point.
And so the chakras are going to continue to spin no matter what.
Um but I was able to say, well, you know, through an act of will, I was able to, over the years I had been able to in meditation uh watch the spin, examine it.
I noticed that there was a huge outside area and a little tiny inside area within the spin, and with the little tiny middle part of the spin did not, it was the reference point against which the spin was projected, if you will, into my consciousness, such that you know, obviously, unless um if everything is spinning, how would I know that it is spinning?
Just like we're all on the planet rotating, you know, thousand miles an hour, but we don't feel it because everything's going at the same rate of speed, uh, you know, all things being relative that way.
In this case, it was a situation of in order to perceive the spin, there obviously had to be some point that was not involved with it.
Noting that you're looking at basically reds, yellows, uh, and various shades of darkness.
Uh I won't say black, but various shades of darkness that are in a state of flux, sort of like the noise situation you might see on uh old style TV, uh only in a you know, when you have your eyes closed.
Uh noting that that's the case, the there's nothing like a initially there was nothing like a defined uh clearly visible, able to be examined hard edged to anything, and therefore it took a number of years for me to actually find the spot at which uh that did not spin.
And and now there's a uh one at each side.
There's a little tiny one in the middle of the spinning uh mass of reality, uh which is you being created.
Again, this is all my understanding of uh of uh experience that I've uh had for these past decades and uh have researched relative to things like yoga and Taoism and other esoteric and um uh intrinsic arts.
In any event, so um there's a spot that doesn't spin.
And there's also one on the outside.
It's sort of like there's a frame that doesn't spin.
I've personally found it very difficult to concentrate on the frame that doesn't spin and use that as any kind of a uh point of analysis other than this little narrow band that's all the way around, and that's a point for another subject.
Uh another wujo, but uh because uh I find it difficult because the expanse of the area that spins is so large relative to my internal focus that every time I change that focus and look for the edge, I'm still all I seem to be doing is extending the spin.
Uh so I'm making it bigger by looking at it, if you will, uh by going that direction.
On the other hand, if if I concentrate on that narrow point in the middle, the concentrate, keep one point, as we would say in Aikido, uh courtesy of Osanse, um, and I I concentrate on the one point, uh I find that it becomes denser, more clearly defined, easier to locate, more uh palpable, uh certainly more material and uh much more um uh usable.
And it turned out, of course, that uh I stumbled in on it, not really understanding what was going on, that The point that does not spin within the spinning disk that is reality is actually the entrance into the stream.
That's how you get into the stream.
So you're sitting there meditating and you're doing your um usual meditative process and your body goes away and your mind is uh gone elsewhere to you know uh off where there are no words and there's no real consciousness, and then pretty soon you have no concept of self, and all that's left is the spin.
And um and then as the spin grows, because it does, it's dynamic as it grows, uh it's easy to sort of like let loose the anchor, release the um probably the connection to the Shoshona, lengthen it or something like that, but it's very much like it's down that part of it occurs down in the sacrum.
So when you let loose the anchor and you go on into the stream, uh it's very much as though your sacrum became an anchor attached to an infinitely long cable.
Uh you leave the sacrum here in reality, but you disconnect the l rest of your vertebrae and allow your that part of your energy body to fall.
It's a falling sensation.
And at the same time you're disintegrating.
Uh so it's very much like uh the psychedelic trips where uh your whole body uh is dying as your consciousness is expanding, and then you fall into the stream, and there you are.
Uh and there you don't have a body.
Uh I won't go into prejudicing others' uh uh appreciation of it, but I don't.
When I'm in the stream, it's uh entirely a spherical um process or experience.
In any event, so you go through to to obtain the stream, you go through that middle part.
Um again, it was extremely violent the first time, it was unexpected, it was gut wretching.
Uh I came back from that experience with uh, you know, the heart wanting to crawl out of my uh body and uh sweat pouring off me, uh had to throw away my Zafu, the little uh meditation cushion because it was just so saturated, I must have lost pounds,
I was dehydrated, uh I literally had to grab my tongue and pull it all away from my my uh upper palate because it had become so adhered to it, and I lost it tore, uh tore two little bits, hurt like hell, uh just to get water in me.
Uh my sinuses were terribly dried out, it had a debilitating effects on me, but it was because of the violence of it, because I wasn't prepared for it and my body reacted negatively.
Uh after that first time, never had anything like that experience again in terms of any negative reaction to entering the stream.
You just go, you're just there.
Pshew.
You just uh you know, let loose the anchor and go.
Now you um you need the anchor, guys.
Bear in mind you've got to have some way of finding your way back.
And so uh you can't uh surrender this to this process totally, and that's where the Taoists say that the uh noble ten thousand died, was in learning this part of the process for us.
And they acknowledge that there were some number of thousands of yogis that died just to get them the early information.
Uh, because if I I don't know that this is the case, but I have a great under I have an understanding, uh perception that if uh one went without leaving the anchor, without involving the sacrum in the reality uh matrix here and leaving that that you may not be able to find your way back to your body.
It becomes it can become difficult to say the least to do navigation out there and there's really nasty things out there, and um uh I would hate to face any of those without this uh instant uh whirl back gate thing, which is the anchor.
Uh I have always thought of it as uh because I'm a sailor, uh you know, as an anchor with a a winch that'll just winch you back to reality no matter what, no matter who's grabbing hold of you with how much strength.
Because that in inexperience has been the effect.
Uh I don't know how I would have ever made it back to reality under certain circumstances had I not had that winch and that incredibly strong uh spiritual rope or or you know, connective fiber or whatever it is.
It's really a nasty you know, it's a nasty universe out there, you gotta know where your your towel is and where you're putting your sacrum.
Um goofy as that sounds.
All this is is to relate my experience to people because I don't have a master.
I'm not like uh John um I'm not like the magis of Java.
I'm not like a lot of these guys that have had this knowledge given to them of as a result of a long tradition where they're sworn to not tell people.
Uh discovered all this myself.
I'm one of the uninitiated uh self-taught rishis.
We either learn this this in a previous life and brought it here, or for whatever reason we're given by universe the ability to learn it in this life.
And so we know no things relative to these experiences.
But we don't know a lot of things because we don't have the historical context and the traditional context in which to place it.
This is undoubtedly due to universe wanting it to be this way, such we would pass the information along.
That's one of the benefits is that there's no tradition telling me to keep my mouth shut.
And another thing is that I'm interested in others' opinions as to the same experience and I've been contacted by other people that have had the same thing or similar things occur to them.
And it's nice to see that there's other uninitiated rishis out there.
And I think maybe one of the perceptions I have is that universe wants this to occur at this point because we're transiting from a truly from an old age into a new age and in the new age we need this knowledge to re be reborn and to be reused and so it's basically like spreading it around.
It doesn't have to hide it anymore.
There's no need and so it's allowed circumstances to develop through whatever confluence of events such that there would be a greater number of people that were aware of these kind of things without the constraints of the secret societies and their ilk.
And also without the constraints of you know well meaning traditions that want to keep it alive where those traditions are no longer pertinent.
So in any event so there's you know people like myself saying hey going out and you do it this way and so on but watch out here and you know don't do this, don't do that.
Basically it's kind of a situation like I was discussing with my vegetable today.
As an old fart I'm saying to you young kids hey guys I made that mistake you don't want to be doing that.
I've done that and as I told Gale it's uh very much a situation of um me saying um no you don't want to eat that last time I ate that I puked for hours.
And as I pointed again out to Cale, it could be the other way.
I could go nudge nudge to my mates and say hey guys let's watch him eat that he's gonna be puking for hours depending on whether or not I like it.
Anyway though, but I like all you guys so I'm telling you ahead of time here that um uh yeah these are the mistakes I've made you know watch out don't do this and there's a lot of people out there saying oh yeah geez you know I wish I'd known about XYZ before encountering that mean some bitch on the other side in the stream you know uh this kind of thing uh because it uh really can help uh knowledge is power and this is uh what it's all about in many areas here is power uh the the ability to dominate consume so
um uh very interesting uh experience here with the stream and the spinning I've got some other notes about this this stream and this spin but basically it's all uh at the at the same level a lot of this can be researched there's other people that have written about it I don't know if they're using the same words as I do in terms of the spin and the um uh entering the stream.
Um the spin of course is the spinning of the chakras and I'm quite convinced that when you enter the stream you drop into the what is basically your Shishona which is that central long thin tube that connects all your chakras together and connects you to the greater universe of a at a in the materium where where your energy body is created.
So basically you're writing your spiritual umbilical cord back up to some kind of a boundary layer where there is that expression of life that is not necessarily bound in this materium and thus you get to interact with all of these guys that you would also see if you took the harsher route to get there of the psychedelics like if you take certain psychedelics like mescaline.
Mascalin's really good for um uh bringing out uh the environment and the other beings and allowing you to interact with them.
It places you at some risk um because it uh has a raw edge to it that uh it doesn't exist with LSD for instance.
LSD being artificial takes you to a certain way but it has a glassine window if you will between you and the and the other reality unlike Ayahuasca when you're in with Ayahuasca you can get out there and and interact with the the mantis beings and discuss things and if they the gator critters want you know they can slap you with your tail and you'll feel it.
Masculine can allow them to be viewed in a more safe environment because it provides a certain perspective.
But so for instance you could uh uh involve yourself with the psychedelics and reach the same place but they have a harsher edge and they are restrictive in their view because they are necessarily working through your body.
And so uh the psychedelics are for instance breaking down your um perceptive consciousness in such a way that the uh parts of the materium unperceived are presented to you in uh through pinholes so the psychedelics might take the uh illusions the veil and fill it full of uh holes and the certain holes shaped this way allow you to see this certain holes shaped another way allow you to see another thing.
When you get there through the stream you're going at it a different way.
You're not involving yourself with the corpus with the material uh materium in that part of it you're you're going up some component I it's hard to say there's no point saying a third or a half or you know three quarters of a way or any of that.
You go but you're going up some level of your own shoshona, the the glimmering simmer silver tube that brings you down to life and takes you away from this life.
You're going up that and connects you during your entire life to the m to the energy that creates you here.
And you you your consciousness rides up that tube that and that's the part of the process of entering the stream is that you sort of like drop into your own shoshona and you're allowed to go shooting up this tube to some point below its its level of base connection.
I've never been able to I don't know that there's any point of going all the way up to where the Shoshona connects into the greater materium as a whole.
I'm I'm content with entering the stream and actually haven't had much time to do it recently Kathy's illness and much work around here and other things.
And the you know the world going to hell we've got to get ready for the Ice Age, all these kind of deals they intrude on the ability the time necessary but again there's no real point in my mind going all the way up the stream itself is appears to be if you will the generalized fora or forum to you uninitiated English speakers where everybody hangs out.
And so it's it's kind of like a giant chat room and uh everybody sort of free form.
And you can do a lot in this chat room in a way.
And there's interesting bits and pieces there.
So you know I don't I wish I'd discovered this and hopefully in my next life I'll discover it a great deal younger and so we'll have more time to explore it.
Because it's all quite fascinating.
But you know that's just the way of universe I discovered it a late age and um I as I say it's quite interesting there's dangers associated with it.
There's still emotive conditions that can induce fear and shock and so on so you know that you still have at least that connection to your visceral body and your visceral body will respond in the sense that you know as I say I came back from that first episode and had sweat so much that um I've never had an experience like that.
I mean it was just a horrific and I've been good at sweating being a wrestler and into the martial arts and I was also involved in wrestling where you had the Greco-Roman crap where you had to meet weight and so on.
And so they put you in these little plastic suits and sweat the hell out of you to try and sweat you down to some other weight class.
Stupid proposal and does nothing for the body it it does nothing in the long run.
That's good.
But in any event so I know all about sweating and this was quite gross.
I mean it had been um hugely hugely saturated never had sweated so much, lost so much weight in a single episode.
So your body does react even though your mind is not connected or your conscious mind is not connected to the body at the at that moment.
This is a result of the anchor of being able to go through the visceral component down to the sacrum and then back up into the Ida and the pingola on either side and that's actually what by the way is what spins is these various elements that go into making up your universal vortices that are your your energy bodies.
And so when you reach certain chakra chakra you find that there's actually a couple of them the especially the upper ones above the heart that are that are smaller number of petals than one may imagine and they go a lot faster.
And it's because you get to the point where you're getting to a more refined view of these twin channels that go into making the components and under which Kundalini rises and all of that kind of crud.
If you look it up the pingala and the Ida are these two channels run on either side of the spine and connect down into the sacrum and then to basically allow the yin and the yang energy to join and cohere and form the body.
but basically it comes down to it is these two channels, these energy channels that are initiating the spin in the consciousness and uh reflected and replicated in that spin.
So um I I hope that satisfies the uh the whole thing about the spinning and the techniques and so on.
You can get there as I did by a number of years of uh concentrated practice on the uh fixed image approach.
Hang on, let's see what's happening here.
Uh machines trying to communicate to me.
Anyway, uh a couple of major things that I'd neglected, go over, probably why universe interrupted us.
Uh the spin uh is clockwise or counterclockwise.
So when it first hit me, the whole universe wants to spin clockwise, that is to say, from my left hand over to my right hand across my the um uh perpendicular to my upright plane um uh uh face of my chest.
So it would want to spin my body from the left to the right.
And I'm sitting here now, by the way, as we're speaking, and I'm watching the spin.
Uh you do it instantly, once it's happened to you like this, there's no prep, you don't have to, you know.
I've never had to, I mean, I I shouldn't be prejudicial.
Maybe there are people that have to work at it.
Once it happened to me, I can fall into it, just close my eyes, and there I go.
Even do it with my eyes open if I really want to concentrate.
Um so um uh the spin is generative.
Now, some of these things, since I've encountered the spin, I went out and did a lot of research.
So it's not like I sat around on my ass and just uh did the spin, although I did for a while.
I gotta give I gotta let you know that.
It was fun, it's cool.
Once you realize you're not gonna puke your guts out forever and um and die, um, and you're not gonna actually have your body go whizzing through space uh every time you close your eyes, well, the you learn to you know mess with it, and it turned out to be okay, and there was cool, and there's things you can learn, and ultimately it led me to the stream, and uh it's it's it has its compensations.
Uh so some of the research I've done uh with the Taoist and the Yogi guys, uh turns out that the spin is not that unheard of.
It happens to a lot of guys um for one reason or another, whether bidden or unbidden is immaterial uh or not immaterial, uh it's material, but it's not pertinent.
And um uh but there are some commonalities.
Relative to your consciousness and how your consciousness has seated itself inside your head, the spin is usually clockwise across to the surface of your face, or if you were looking down on your body uh from the top, it would be from left to right in a clockwise fashion.
Bear in mind this is a sphere spinning, not a disk.
And so and the sphere is spinning in uh more than one plane of reference.
So the spin itself is quite complex.
Took some time for me to understand that.
There may in I don't want to get divergent into any of the details not pertinent again, but it may be of interest to some people to know that in some of the chakras there's more than one sphere involved.
So the the spin is becomes um uh dynamic to say the least.
But in any event, and just in a broad sense in your perception of the of the spin, it's it's clockwise, it's left to right.
If you close your eyes and you were looking at a vertical, say a surface sort of like a wall, you would see it go, you know, um uh clockwise from your left eye over to your right eye and then down around the bottom of your right eye and then up into your left eye again, that kind of thing.
Uh on a two-dimensional level.
And that's actually probably why we have the yin yang symbol that we get out of Asia and so on.
It's perfect representation of the of this spin in a stylized form, uh, including the central part that doesn't spin, although that's not represented in in most of the um Asian versions of the yin yang symbol, although you do see it with the Hindu version with the yogic symbol.
Okay, so uh the counterclockwise part.
Um I I cannot say for certain whether it was my own idea at the time, whether I learned it on the stream, or whether it was as a result of research, uh that it occurred to me to try pressing back on the spin.
I was sort of mashing it with my mental uh hands and trying to see what the components of the spin and examine it.
And at some point, for whatever cause, I decided that well, I was going to use an act of will and stop the bugger.
Was able to stop it and was able to reverse it.
And that is to say, I was able to push it counterclockwise.
Since then, I'm doing the counterclockwise now.
Now here's the beauty of it.
Once you get to a certain extent, I'll tell you this, probably isn't going to screw anybody up.
Once you get to a certain extent of experience with the spin, you realize that you can't have clockwise without the counter, vice versa.
So you've got them both simultaneously.
Aha!
Yes.
Duality expresses itself continuously and in all levels.
So in terms of focusing and concentrating on it, I was able to take the central part that had been perceptively spinning clockwise and spin it counterclockwise by an act of will.
Not an inconsiderable act of will, it wasn't easy.
But again, once I'd done it, thereafter, it was easier to do each and every time until it becomes absolutely trivial to fall into either state at will as you decide.
The generative force can be used to perk you up physically if you want to sort of like suck in some more energy because it's been a rough day, and uh you know you want to uh shift your butt a bit to be a little bit more lazy and you need that extra bit of energy to you know move that uh one half your glute over, that kind of thing.
So your body can uh get a benefit from it, but you also can benefit from it at a key level.
Uh prana, you know, anime, whatever you call it in your context.
Uh qi, that kind of thing.
Anyway, the uh counterclockwise is an interesting study in and of itself because the we Ming Ching would tend to suggest uh the uh which is um also called uh embracing the energy of life or cultivating the energy of life, which is a Taoist book, uh really of only one page, two pages actually, a drawing and uh some annotations.
Um anyway, that would tend to suggest that by doing a counterclockwise uh push with your will and controlling certain things, a certain kind of um, if you will, an expression of uh eternity or immortality is possible as a result of that work.
I don't know about this.
This is, you know, uh uh from their from the perspective of the Wi Ming Ching, it does seem realistic.
The pushing back is a regenerative force, not a degenerative, but a regenerative.
So in the sense that it doesn't it's not destruction versus uh creation because everything around us is perceptively being created continuously, and we're totally unaware of our uh of the destruction that's going on in our in our bodies.
But the this is regenerative, I say, in the sense that you it's as though you're able to take your clock and push it back a little tiny bit as an act of will by spinning this thing backwards.
That there is a perception, a feeling, a sensation that there is some benefit to this effort of will in doing this, and then there are some levels of research to say that it is uh suggests that uh there's uh material benefits that can be made from this effort as well.
And if you care to get into it, you can read about the um read about this, I think in chapter two of uh uh The Science of Yoga.
Um, in any event, uh it's long damn mujo and I've got to get some stuff done here.
Anyway, though, so let me see if there's anything I'm forgetting about that.
The spin is powerful.
Uh all of reality spins.
It wants to spin left to right, you can make it spin right to left.
Uh that alone has benefits by the way for martial artists.
Uh gives you an incredible sense of balance once you've gotten to that point.
Uh I don't know if this is a deserved thing or if I brought this from another life because I was a much better person there, and thus, you know, was one of these uh guys who's born with certain yogic talents, uh, or how I came to this, you know, universe decided basically.
And uh the thing is, since I started talking about the spin and the stream and some of these more real than delusional uh reality uh items uh context.
I've been contacted by other people that are experiencing you know the same thing within their own context.
They may use slightly different words.
So it's not that uncommon.
It may be that the universe for whatever reason has certain waves going through the reality at the moment, and this is how they can be perceived.
And so it's not so much an internal issue, it's not something that I'm doing that I'm involved with, that the I part of this uh uh this being that's doing the talking uh uh is generating so much as it is uh perceiving something uh that is harmonious and uh being expressed from universe.
In other words, uh I may simply be a small cork in bazillions of other corks uh going up and down on waves, uh thinking I'm generating the up and down motion.
Uh, you know, uh saying, hey cork, look, uh look what I can do.
You know, and the cork next to me is saying, Well, hey, you son of a bitch, I'm doing it too.
Anyway, though.
So that that's where we're at.
Uh I don't think I'm I'm leaving anything out uh from the from the stream or the spin business or the meditative practices.
Uh I'm not gonna add a whole bunch of uh light to the subject by throwing more words at it.
There's there's tons of people that have written far better descriptions about it than about any of the processes than I have.
Um I could possibly uh uh duplicate.
So you're better off doing your own research, but it sure is real, and that's uh something good to know.
Uh you know, I started off looking at the meditative process on a different uh angle entirely and ended up with uh this spin and all these other effects.
Um totally unbidden, was not aiming for for these guys.
Yet ran into them.
So and that's that seems to be a commonly reported um symptom, if you will, or or side effect of meditation is that um uh those people that have progressed to the same levels that I have relative to this stuff also run into this situation where they have these same kind of experiences.
So uh again, it's not uncommon.
Uh basically, I guess I'm saying yeah, y you two can go absolutely bat shit and have the world spin around so much you fall off your bed without the need of alcohol or any other kind of kind of intoxicate or stimulant.
Yeah, you can do it to yourself internally.
And uh the only reason I'm bringing it up and doing a woojo is I had tons of requests about it, so there we go.
Hopefully nobody will ever ask me again, and if they do, I'll just point them at this one and say, go back and listen.
Thanks a lot, guys.
Watch out for the radiation, it's not getting any better anytime soon.
And it will, if we can get our hands on these time control bastards that are messing with the time um with they're messing with time in some of these labs, and uh because they're classified and secret and that kind of shit, uh nobody with any real practical sense is allowed to get a hold of the guy, slap him about the head and say, get that machine to Fukushima, set it for this kind of setting, uh, you know, provide that kind of power and get the fuck out of the way so we can correct this mess.
But we could.
Anyway, uh frustration and stuff.
Sorry.
I guess I'll go have one of my uh space alien green snot cookies.
Bye.
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