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July 22, 2013 - Clif High
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20130722 – Clif High Audio #38
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Good afternoon.
It's 3.17 p.m. on July 22nd, 2013.
This is a woojo to bring everybody up to speed on a bunch of different subjects, including our ALTA reports, and I'll go into that right off the bat here.
We are going to be releasing an Alta report.
We're labeling this one August of 2013.
We're using a written format.
We're using our old data processing methods, which are a little bit more time-intensive.
So it will, thus the delays.
We've also been concerned with the Cindy Lou effect that I'd mentioned in the article that I'd put on the Half-Past Human site.
*sniff*
And we've had a number of run-ins with the increasing problems of the data holes and the internet warfare.
All of this all of these elements have contributed to a delay in our processing, and we've missed the month of July, but that was okay for us because we've had to redo things in order to be able to survive here under the current uh economic situations that we've got going.
And so I'll go into those and I'll go into the ALTA report uh structure here in just a second.
Um okay, so about the ALTA reports.
Let's start with the Cindy Lew effect.
Uh this effect is uh basically the same kind of effect that we used to use in our propagation studies when I was doing those initially in the uh 94 through actually I think we finally finished up in about 2003 or 2004.
But a propagation study is where I wanted to know what the emotional import and the uh carry value were for particular kinds of words as well as other numeric indicators of emotional response to uh phrase or um uh word usage.
And so I would put these on forums and uh see how far they would uh propagate out, thus the name, the propagation studies.
And you'd put them on one forum and you would uh in a particular uh area, so you'd put a particular statement in, say, a gardening forum that you knew uh was a feeder site for other forum, and uh then you'd just follow it and see how far out that phrase went and uh the emotional import and how it carried and so on.
Well, um the Cinderloo effect is uh basically a uh conscious direction uh propagation study that's never ending, a perpetual uh propagation study as they get all wrapped up in their own spiral spiraling in on the supposed results that are being seen by the methods employed, and the methods employed are deterministic, so they will find what you tell them to look for.
Uh we run in a serendipitous mode, so we're actually looking for stuff we we tell it not to find.
In a curious way.
I mean, a funny way to put it.
But in any event, so um the Cindy Lew effect is real.
Um since I first wrote the essay, I've now been contacted by several uh fellow travelers.
Uh we're definal is defined as uh more than three, less than eleven, and a fellow traveler in this sense is defined as somebody who is actively involved in uh fringe-level linguistics or advanced uh linguistic thinking.
And so um these include uh competitors as well as people working for some of our competitors, as well as people that are exploring other forms of um uh uh linguistic evolution uh via the internet, and so uh would have also been affected by the Cindy Lew effect.
Anyway, so these um fellow travelers have told me that well, uh one of them said that he'd recognize the opportunity presented by putting out a deterministic word counting program in a similar fashion to what uh George Ur's been uh playing with.
And he decided not to because of the impact it would have on his own primary work.
Because he also had been running propagation studies and uh was aware of the um um the self-reinforcing nature that those can have for somebody that's unaware of the nature of the technology they're using and those things, you know, they're actually seeing something you know, words from their god, this kind of thing.
Uh So anyway, he uh decided not to put it out there because he recognized that yeah, there was uh some small monetary potential there, but it would totally destroy his primary business.
And then I've also uh been in uh contacted by some people that are uh organization employees for uh corporate competitors who also, one of the corporate guys, well apparently one of the big guys, uh was going to do something uh similar to that, uh similar to a um self-directed Google Trends kind of a deal, and they wisely decided not to because what if their employees pointed out to them that the security nature of what they were doing and how it would be self-reinforcing and would all blow up real quick anyway.
Uh but in the meantime it was gonna pollute their own and everybody else's trends data.
And this company was also a um uh that's their primary business is selling trend information, and they do very well at it.
So this is um uh something that we've come to in terms of our situation relative to the ALTA reports.
Uh we've had escalating costs, uh my poor um uh paranoid uh mad henchman here, Igor is uh uh rapidly running out of the few mustache hairs he has left to chew on uh just because of the continuing problems in punching holes through the uh denial of service attacks and other forms of internet warfare.
Uh so that's been a real problem for us.
We've had increasing costs, and then we've discovered just how egregious uh egregiously we've been um assaulted by uh what we're gonna call large corporations.
And so it just really irritated me.
I hated running into the Cindy Lou effect, that's a problem.
We think by the way that we're discussing this with one of the um uh fellow travelers, I I actually think I've tumbled into a way that may allow us to at least know that it's present uh and be able to uh uh predict when the data is getting uh too dirty to use, and so we're gonna start looking for that, and I've got poor Igor, who has just you know only a few mustache hairs left, uh working on some uh refinement of some scripts I've written towards that effect.
And we'll see how uh quickly we can get something up and running that would give us a little indicator that Cindy Lou is out there and causing problems with some software that uh we know will be released.
Now, at the moment, uh you know the pending release of the George Yours software there was a real issue for us.
Um but is not he's not alone.
There are other people out there doing the same deterministic word counting kind of uh go and scope out this forum or this uh news site kind of software.
And they're uh starting to focus in on what I call the Cindy Loo market or the Prophecy Market.
And so it will occur.
Um we're engineer trying to engineer uh around it.
In the meantime, uh we're also running our data sets uh as fast as we can, and thus poor Igor has very few mustache hairs left because we're working his little uh mustache to the bone uh as he uh as we um try and store as much data as possible in as wide a ranging um feed as possible.
We run into an interesting situation here, whereas we used to have literally used to get a hundred million reads and throw out ninety percent or greater, uh sometimes as high as ninety-nine percent of them, in order to retain that one percent that was uh had been passed through the filtering.
We're now doing a lot of our filtering ahead of time in the process of doing the IP punching just to make sure that we're we're going to a lot of trouble that the area we're going to will be worth it, uh trying to maintain these IP connections against some of these ravaging um uh net wars is a real issue.
So we don't want to waste our time on areas that are uh less productive for us.
Thus we've um altered some of the processing, shifted some of the uh processing ahead of time, uh ahead of um uh when we used to do it in a batch format, we would just do it in a different way.
Now we're doing it in an in a near real-time fashion.
And I've shifted some of it so that we're uh getting less reads, but they're all of a consistently higher quality, so we're throwing out fewer.
And so our retention rate is is very much higher than it used to be.
Uh basically what we've done is uh sort of flopped the whole thing to where uh we're reading in about a tenth of what we used to, but out of that tenth, we're keeping maybe ninety percent in some cases.
Yeah, uh so in some cases only one percent, but uh still very high percentage in a lot of areas, so we're racking up some considerably um good sized uh bins and collections of data.
This being the case, and the way in which we're doing the immediacy data versus shorter term versus longer term data sets now is um uh uh open to a bit more flexibility because we're no longer doing any form of batch processing, nor are we trying to uh deal with the immediacy data flood at the post-processing or post-gathering processing level.
Uh tedious to understand, but basically what it allows is that um the uh the weighted average of the immediacy data versus shorter term versus longer term, to some small extent can be controlled as we go along,
and thus we expect, and that's a big uh E and a followed by a question mark and uh and uh uh a lot of good thoughts, uh we expect to have a higher grade of accuracy with a lower uh total overall data set.
So that's that's really the net result of that technical diversion is that we're gonna have less data, but we expect it to be at a of a higher quality, so we expect to be more accurate.
We'll find this out as we go along.
Now here's uh now we need to get back into our egregious offender issue.
Uh here's our here's our real problem.
Had we been paid for all of the reports that we've produced at uh ten dollars uh per copy, uh we would not be in the financial straits that we are now.
Uh uh if if it was and then I'm talking about just the reports that were stolen from us, not the ones we gave away for free.
So we were always giving away three or four times the amount for free that were being paid for.
And that can't continue, and in fact, it has ceased.
We're not going to give away reports for free anymore.
And we've had to do some really hard thinking about how we how we approach this.
Because of the cost here, because of the cost of maintaining and scrubbing the database, because of the the rising cost everywhere and the um uh falling value of the money, we've hit some serious walls, and we know we're gonna be hit by some some even more serious ones as a lot of our hardware fails, just because it's due and the stuff wears out.
So uh, in order for us to even be able to think about continuing, we've made some decisions, increased our storage level so that we can store our data set that we're gathering now, with the intention of being able to uh continue to produce reports on it even after we discover that the Cindy Lou effect has come on in, because we can go back and re-examine those parts of the data set that were left unexamined in previous interpretations.
Uh you know, you can't read it all in your first go-through.
And in fact, on some, if we get a large enough set, we might be able to uh produce three or four uh reports.
I don't know about five, but certainly three, and possibly four reports off of a good sized data set in the past we were always worried about the data going stale, so we would always dump the data and go on to the next gathering.
Now we're able to do things in a different fashion because we've run up against the pressure of the Cindy Loo effect.
And so this new uh method uh is gonna produce different results, but we do think that we're back to the old 2003 style, waiting with longer term, shorter term, and um inner uh immediacy data.
Now, here's our issue.
Again, back to the issue of payment.
Had we been paid for the thousands of copies that were uh circulated illegally in corporations, uh we would not be in a situation that we're in now.
And so we've decided that what we're going to do is the following.
We're not gonna we're gonna sell this via the internet, and we're gonna deliver it via the internet via email.
That presents all kinds of problems for us.
It raises this whole process is gonna raise all of our cost and the aggravation in releasing reports, but we simply cannot continue otherwise.
We'll just shut down if this doesn't work.
But here's here's the situation.
We know for a fact that there's a number of corporations where there were hundreds, if not thousands of illegal copies of our report in circulation, and that were read by many, many, many, many people repeatedly off of network servers, and that these copies were put there by employees of those uh large corporations.
And so this is a violation of our copyright because of the way that copyright law works, we are going to demand that such corporations pay a corporate license rather than get uh free use of our work for their uh for a ten dollar um payment for you know potentially thousands of people reading it.
Um so under the circumstances, in order to uh accommodate this and make it work, here's the method that we've chosen to uh approach this with.
What we're gonna do is this A, no more free copies.
Uh if we decide to release any of this information for free, it will be so far in the future you might as well forget about waiting for it.
It'll just pop out, you know, five, six months from now if we decide that's the route that's gonna get going to happen.
So all copies will be paid for.
Uh plus all copies are going to be tracked in our own server software, so that if we see someone discussing our work, which we have to filter out anyway, and we're able to peg an email address to it, and they're not a purchaser of our product, we're gonna get very upset.
Uh three, what we're gonna do here is we're going to invite explicitly corporations to apply for a corporate license.
And then we're going to tell everybody, including employees of those corporations.
Here is the situation.
Should we release after we release this report, if we find that there is a copy of our report on any of your servers or any of your software in your cloud or on your VPN or any one of your corporate networks, we will uh sue the absolute shit out of you the way that patent trolls uh try, we will succeed.
And here's how we will succeed.
Because I'm going to invite out of work attorneys to patrol corporations that we call large corporations, which are going to be defined in a statement on our um uh ALTA description, which will be posted later today or tomorrow.
And um we're gonna invite out of work attorneys to patrol the corporations next to you.
So, hey, you live in New York City and you're you you're an attorney and you're you're uh registered to uh press suits in that state on the behalf of clients.
Well, if you're out of work and you don't have anything to do, wander on into JP Morgan, wandering into Bank of America, going up to their library, see if you can locate a copy of our software uh that's on one of their machines and the date it was placed there, or not our software, but our report.
And then uh give us a uh contact, contact us uh here at um half past human and uh put in there that you've found an egregious offender uh and we'll negotiate with you for contingency.
And you'll be uh we'll set up a contingency contract and you can sue the fuckers for us.
And we're gonna be very, very, very uh diligent about this.
Because it we're basically it uh you know, it's a do or die situation.
So we either make the corporations pay, or basically it's a go bust sort of a deal.
And so we've set corporate licenses really damn high to reflect uh how uh valuable it is to those corporations based on what we've been able to determine in these past few months uh from some whistleblowers that within those corporations.
And further, let me point something out.
If you are an employee of one of the large corporations that we define as such, and you're uh you buy a personal use copy, you had better inform us ahead of time that you are an employee of that corporation, because if we should find out that that corporation ends up with a copy on their uh equipment anywhere,
and we can connect you to that corporation, we will sue you as well at a personal level uh for for placing it there, even if we can't um uh uh eliminate you as the uh perpetrator, we will sue all of the employees that purchased our cop a copy uh for being a um copyright thief.
And we'll uh try and get the maximum level of penalty that the um uh nasty legal system here in the United States will allow.
And bear in mind this will not cost us anything because there are tons of attorneys out there that have no work and would love to take on a contingency patent troll uh kind of case against Bank of America or some other deep pocket organization.
And uh we will be quite happy to vet the attorney and then uh you know sign the contract for a very generous contingency and say, y'all rope them steers and bring them on into the corral.
And uh we will do so.
Uh we will also do this with the uh egregious offenders that are also parts of the um US government.
Okay, the Federal Reserve, as well as uh federal employees that uh read this off of federal servers are also on notice that if we can locate your email address as one of the purchasers and you work for one of these corporations and you did not tell us ahead of time that you were you're buying it for yourself and you're gonna swear you're not gonna put it on their machines, then we will not absolve you and we will include your name in this lawsuit that will be brought against your corporation.
And also bear in mind, if you are a reader of ours and you work for one of these large corporations, and you do buy a personal copy that you do not put on your corporate machine, but you find a corporate copy out there.
Hey, we can keep a secret.
I like whistleblowers.
We've got a good relationship with them.
There's lots of ways that karma can flow back to them.
So keep that in mind.
Uh basically this is a um uh statement of intent to pursue copyright violators via whatever uh legal recourse we may have, uh, and we're defining all of the big pockets, uh deep pockets as the ones we're gonna go after first because they're the most egregious offenders here.
So we will set a very high price on for a corporate license, and we will refuse to be bullied by these bastards, and if we can't arrive to a satisfactory conclusion of negotiations, then I'll just sit back because I know they're gonna thieve from us, and I also know that there's a lot of out-of-work attorneys that would just love to take on a case against one of these guys where they've got all everything going for them.
Uh, you know, in terms of our documentation and our support and all of this sort of deal in terms of how we're approaching this.
So, corporate uh purchasers, be advised.
If you want to read this, if you've read it on your corporate networks in the past, you'd better contact your local department heads if you want to read it again, have them listen to this message or read the um notice on our site and purchase a corporate license.
We're doing this ahead of the uh release of the um uh product.
So when we release the product, we're going to put uh linguistic uh telltales, um linguistic watermarkers in each and every copy that will be tied each and every email ID going out will receive a separately uh slightly different version of the product at uh some level that we will be able to identify without any kind of problem.
We're taking uh a clue here from um uh Getty and all the other uh people with their copyright issues and they're really um uh they're egregious offenders too, by the way, but um uh with the uh with their approach towards uh uh aggressive copyright enforcement.
And so we're gonna mark all of the copies.
So they're going to be delivered via email with this mark included.
And so we will be able to match email IDs to copies that go out, and if that copy shows up on a corporate server somewhere and it and it's got it's so see, this is really what saves all the other employees for these large corporations is that if we can find out which copy got there first,
we'll be able to say, hey, so-and-so is the one we're gonna name in the suit as the personal uh thief that provided you know JP Morgan Bank of America other big fucking corporation to be named here with uh illegal copy that several thousand people uh read from, and we're going to try and achieve the maximum possible return.
Uh I will tell you this up front in our lawsuits.
And so the attorneys will be instructed certain ways in terms of how to approach this, and um we will go for the maximum possible penalty per potential read off of the servers, and we will we will subpoena the hell out of your IT department to get clock counts so that you so that we've got an accurate record of your entire server use of our report on your server.
We've prepared all of our documents already ahead of the release of the report, we know how to uh subpoena records that will clamp down on you the minute we find out about this.
You don't believe me, you don't want to have me come on in and do a Proctology exam on your IT department.
When I was doing IT security, I discovered some holes in some uh corporations and uh government that had been there for years and had passed uh several times through professional sweeps, and yet I was able to discover them uh in uh network um uh monitoring uh uh and and shut down some really nasty situations.
And we're talking long-term backdoors have been put in by professional crackers, so I know what the hell I'm doing.
So I will come on in and I will do a proctology exam on your IT department.
And uh I understand that a threat perceived is a threat received, but in this case, let's substitute the word promise.
I promise you that I have nothing to lose by sicking as many out of work attorneys on your case as I possibly can in as many different jurisdictions as I possibly can.
I I literally I stand nothing to lose whatsoever.
And this is not uh nuisance suit.
This is an attempt to control the egregious offensive theft by large corporations who are being put on notice both by this audio uh message as well as by the um written message that's going to appear on the half-past human site.
And so anyway, the uh the the half-past human site will have a method for people to apply uh to be included in uh this release of the next report.
If you do so, if you apply as an individual for a personal use, copy, be advised that we want your email address, uh we're going to tie it to that copy, and I don't really want to go this route.
I don't really care about people, I don't care about their names, their what they do for a living, or any of that sort of thing.
But if you do work for one of these uh large corporations as defined in our site there, then you'd better tell us ahead of time that you do so and and swear in your email you're not gonna release it to them.
Uh otherwise we'll just include you in the in the course of the of the lawsuit, and you know the lawsuits will occur because you know they're thieving from us.
So uh that having been said, uh we're gonna set our prices.
Uh there will not be a free copy on the report.
Uh we will attempt to control and uh eliminate Cindy Lewis effect uh by shutting down the data set as soon as we know that uh we've spotted it or suspect we've spotted it, uh and let everybody know ahead of time in any reports that that may be the case.
And we're gonna release the report in August uh delivered via email.
Now, this last element on delivery.
Uh if you give us an email address that we can't reach because we get bounce backs, uh you it's uh the onus is on you to contact us to say you did not receive your report and it was paid for under such and such an email address.
And we we may have to send to you from some other domain other than half past human to route it through the corporate uh denial of service attacks as well as those corporations that ban our material on their uh across their networks.
So uh so there's that.
And so this whole process will engender a lot of extra screwing around and a lot of extra cost, and we've had to uh fix all our cost uh to reflect this.
Uh so uh it's um increase in cost of their driving the cost the value of the money down, so we had to do something anyway.
Poor Igor, you know, can't afford even um uh any mustache wax, not that he could use it, two hairs left, there wouldn't be any point.
But in any event, um uh so we've set uh we're gonna set a new pricing structure, we'll deliver via email in small batches, with each batch uh going out with individual encoded linguistic watermarks uh for later on prosecution uh of egregious against our egregious the thievers, uh the Reavers, and um uh we'll see if this works.
Uh if it doesn't, we may try one other alternative that we've thought of.
Uh but um uh you know it's getting close to cutting into the bone here, so uh which I refuse to do, we'll just go off and do something else.
Anyway, so that's um that's where we stand there.
The report will probably go out, say before the 10th of August.
It's going to depend on how much extra fiddling around.
We will release it ahead of the next round of forecast financial things in there because they're so pertinent to everybody.
And they're going to have a very large impact on the population as a whole.
So at some point we may even just say that, okay, we're going to release now and any applications that come on in after this are processed on an individual basis as they arrive.
And they can just wait while we deal with the other issues in sending them out.
Sorry about the problems.
It's just the way it's got to be.
If we could think of some other way to do it that didn't involve mailing things through the U.S. Postal Service, we would take that approach.
It is just, I mean, it's truly egregious to find out that you produce what you thought was about 2,600 copies, most.
of which were given away free and then to find out that um two organizations alone accounted for over six thousand copies uh I mean that's um uh you know greater than our production level several times and it's uh it was just a huge hit especially since we've run into all these issues with uh failing money and or failing equipment and need the money for it and all of that kind of stuff.
So anyway, that's the situation with the reports.
We'll be putting those out before the 10th of August.
I have a little reason to try and aim for the 1st of August.
We'll see if we can make it.
If you want to send in applications to be part of this group, hang off until I've got, as a personal user, please wait a day or so.
I plan to have the accounting mechanism for both Bitcoin and PayPal and Bitcoin.
um Amazon payments set up and in place by Saturday of this week uh which is the twenty seventh so you'll have a couple of days to get in there ahead of time it's no worries.
We're not going to release on the first of August anyway very doubtful.
So it's not a big problem.
The Media C data being weighted the way it is, we're not overrunning any of the data sets in releasing this way.
And so that's uh and basically what it amounted to is you know these too big to fail, they're just too big to carry anymore, you know it's just too much of a burden to support them economically without making them pay their fair fair share.
So we're gonna uh just set it that way and see how it goes.
And if they pay maybe we can keep in business here.
Now a couple of things uh just uh different um tub uh topics here we've got a bunch of new endeavors going I've got a new uh making a mold for a new invention uh that we're gonna be uh presenting to some people next month uh to see how they like it they may decide to take it in which case maybe I can keep uh one of my vegetables employed here keep kale going um uh through the winter doing uh this kind of stuff with this new product.
Uh we're getting the ProA done so we're boy if we keep on schedule here we'll be putting hatches in in uh on the sixth and then I've got to go down on the 7th or 8th and pick up uh of August and pick up um uh the first yurt um but then we'll be back to doing the painting and everything on um on the Pro with the intent of getting into the water by the end of August uh all rigged out ready to go.
Uh we have a lot of stuff to do.
We have to cast the uh specialized um another new invention cast the um uh rudder control uh unit that I've designed.
I've got the rudders built.
The foils are great.
They're getting their last coat of resin and finish coat of resin and glass beads and stuff now.
And they're all set, so we just need to make the cast out the control mechanism that holds the foils and then the control mechanism that holds the crane that lifts the sprit rig, also known as an advanced crab claw.
So we have some parts we have to cast and we've got a lot of measurements and this this kind of thing to do as well uh so it's it's not like there aren't several thousands of tasks to get done before we can even put the boat in the water as well as you know um putting in all the stuff that's required by law all the lights and the you know all the horns And all this kind of crud, right?
And lifesavers and or life vests and so on.
So that we, you know, we have we have it all, so we can get it done fairly rapidly.
But um anyway, so we're making progress and we should should have that in by the um end of August.
Uh so sea trials will be through September, so it seems unlikely we'll be able to do the Port Townsend uh thing in uh this September, uh, simply because I've got this other new potential for some work here that may keep the vegetable going longer, uh, which would be really cool.
And it would generate some income for us, you know, and uh not opposed to that, uh, especially since we're trying to uh relocate and do some other stuff.
Uh we're also going to do a um uh demo.
Um Cale and I and uh a couple of guys I know and um are gonna build this uh heating system for the house we're in now, and one I also intend to employ with the yurts that where you that extracts about between 50 and 80% of your heating cost from the earth uh with uh basically a small uh you can do it with a computer fan, you can do a little tiny 12 volt fan.
That's your only electrical cost, your only energy costs.
And it's um it's an uh air tunnel, uh an air heat exchange tunnel, and so basically what you do is you dig a big trench with a couple of plenum at either end and uh uh put pipe in it and uh various different things to control the moisture in the insects and this this sort of deal.
But you have about a hundred feet of pipe buried uh between four and six feet down in our area here.
So we're gonna bury ours about five feet, and uh it'll provide a constant temperature to the air inside the pipe of about uh 55 to 60 degrees.
Uh so we'll um uh always have that.
If it's 90 degrees outside, you'll be able to run that little fan and pump in very cool air.
Uh if it's uh 30 degrees outside, you'll be able to run that fan and pump in reasonably warm air, 20 to 30 degrees warmer than the outside air.
Of course, you know, if it's 55 degrees outside and your air temperature is 55 degrees coming out of the tube, it doesn't do you a whole lot of good.
Uh so uh, you know, unlike a broken watch, this thing is sort of wrong at a particular temperature twice a day, that sort of a deal.
Uh but they're very um extremely cost effective.
Uh uh the it's a really an old Roman and or Turkish invention.
Uh it it can be married to a if you use a um terracotta pipe and stuff, it can be married to any number of systems that run alongside it, uh, so that you can also extract uh heat or put heat into it, that kind of a deal.
Uh so for instance, they used to have a um hot air piping and plenum uh situation that that sort of siphoned excess heat off of the heating of the water in some of these uh ancient Roman baths, and they would then run the hot air to dry saunas in other parts of the uh building, and the cross connect was reasonably small and so on.
So we're exploring some of these ancient technologies for um what we call you know the low-hanging fruit, uh the minimal uh capital investment for the maximum long-term return without the uh requirement of any additional energy.
On these systems here, you can put a fan in at either end.
It's better to have the fan on the um the ductwork and everything on the receiving end uh for a lot of different reasons, but um control among them, so you can just turn it on and turn it off very close.
They uh can move some considerable temperature uh differences from uh the ground into your house, depending on the volume of cubic volume of your house, you may need greater than a hundred feet.
We figure about a hundred and six feet here would be more than adequate to supply both the house we're in now, and uh even divert some to a dome or to a yurt if we had to had set one up here.
Uh in other words, we'd be able to supply two structures off the same plenum and uh run the uh excess heat in the wintertime into the dome.
And this is uh really good savings if you've got a uh greenhouse, because the in some areas, for instance, um I know some places where it freezes down 17 or 18 feet, if you've got the uh ability to dig down deeper than that, you can reach temperatures that uh will exceed uh the level of the frozen ground by 45 degrees,
uh because that's the base temperature you'll be dealing with at about 24 feet if your uh freezing uh limit is uh normal frozen ground limit is 17 feet.
Uh so at that level you've got 45 degree temperature that you can constantly vent into your greenhouses at basically no cost because it will rise, it'll want to rise.
Uh but you might need some considerable volume in pipe unless you can get some terracotta pipe, and that of course involves greater expense.
The easiest way to do it is with a heavy thick uh plastic drain pipe or a cement.
Uh cement's really good, but uh the issue with the cement is you need to make it so that it's non-porous.
You need to make sure that it is a um cement uh coated Portland cement coated uh non-porous uh concrete pipe, not a drain pipe or um uh culvert pipe.
Those won't work because of the penetration of the moisture, you'll get potential molds and all of this kind of problem, and you don't want those.
It's real easy to engineer around those, but if you get the wrong material to start, you're screwed.
Especially since you've got a hundred plus feet of it buried in the ground, it'll be a bitch to replace it if you discover you've got the wrong stuff later on.
Um but um uh they're very easily done.
Uh the technology is several thousands of years old, and we're gonna build one here as soon as certain things occur.
So we're thinking actually we'll probably end up doing it in the rainy season here, which is any day now.
But uh we'll probably end up doing this in um uh September after we've done our first uh shake it to break it um run on the proa.
Then we'll come on back and do some things around here.
Uh uh uh Kale and myself and maybe the other vegetable lettuce.
And um uh during that time, then we'll uh build in one of these systems and uh uh put it in place and we'll track it through the winter and show you what its uh performance is.
The goal is not to get 100% of your heat out of this uh bear in mind, it's to get uh 55 to 80% of your heat heat uh or cooling virtually free.
And so you're only heating that temperature difference from you know 55 to 72 or whatever it is, 68, whatever you prefer, you only have to heat from there as opposed to from 32 degrees uh uh if you have an insulated house and this kind of a deal.
And for the cost, uh in terms of the cost effectiveness and the length of time it can run uh undisturbed, no input because there's no moving parts other than your fan, it truly even beats um uh most forms of solar uh for a very little cost.
But it will not and cannot be expected to provide all your heat, but rather just to provide that base level or your cooling.
Now it really shines in the cooling section.
Let me uh divert there for a second.
Most um air conditioners are work off of uh reducing uh moisture in the air to to uh chill the air by uh condensing out the water vapor, and they in the process it makes you feel uh cooler as they blow this um chilled air across you.
In effect, though, you are limited uh to their uh the an air conditioner's effectiveness is limited to the amount of moisture that it that can possibly be removed from the air in the room in which it's operating under the conditions it's operating.
So air conditioners uh have a known potential level of efficiency, which is hardly ever achieved because you'd have to be in a perfect environment for that.
But the the most probable uh output from any form of air conditioning is about a 15 degree difference uh maximum with the ambient air given a reasonable um humidity and moisture content, so that 15 degrees would be 15 degrees off of 85 to get you the 70,
or if you're in the 90, well you're only gonna get 15 degrees off of the 90, so you're down to you're not gonna get it down to 70 then, if it's up at 100, you're only gonna get 15 degrees off of a hundred.
If it's a hundred and twenty, you're only gonna get fifteen degrees off of a hundred and twenty.
You're not gonna get a situation where an air conditioner will take you from a hundred and twenty degrees ambient air down to 70 degrees interior air uh without a uh huge investment in electricity costs far above the normal level of um air conditioning use.
Now, all of that being said, the reason I'm saying it is here's the deal.
If you're living in an area where it's 120 degrees, and you have the re uh as a standard, you know, uh kind of a potential for uh summer temperatures or even a hundred degrees summer temperatures, and you're you're in the sort of the reverse situation is the people up north where they have the deep uh freezes.
You have a deep heat penetration, but if you can get below that deep heat penetration, now it's not quite as bad as the freezing potential because the that's a moisture in the soil issue.
But uh and heating usually drives the moisture out of the soil, which limits the heat to uh nine or ten feet down, and so you only need to go usually about uh say eleven to twenty feet down in order to obtain the uh or get close to a maximum delta in your region between ambient air and the lower internal um soil temperature.
But that internal soil temperature might truly be forty degrees difference.
It might be a constant 55 degrees.
And so if you're at 95 degrees, you've got a 45 degree air temperature difference, and you can you can pump out that that um uh air temperature all day long for the cost of the little fan.
Um the uh and the higher the air air temperature goes, the greater the uh difference between the two because your ground temperature will be reasonably constant throughout this entire period.
So even if your air temperature went to 120, you're still gonna be pumping out 55 degree air out of your um uh cooling system buried in the ground.
And you again, based on cubic volume and how much you're gonna pump out and so forth, you may need multiple ones of these lines running um throughout your yard or you know, several hundred feet out under the the ground, or you may want to wrap them.
I know of one guy who um discovered a wrapped one, couldn't figure out what it was uh until several uh amateur archaeologists pointed out to him, but it was in Turkey.
And it was uh a terracotta pipe that was wrapped and uh buried in a very narrow form uh factor in the ground to achieve the same effect.
So you don't have to run them out um horizontally, you can run them vertically or any number of things, take advantage of fissures in the ground, put the pipe in there, and then bury the buggers.
As long as they have constant contact with the lower ground, and that lower ground is uh sufficiently insulated, you know, ten or twelve feet if that's your area, uh then you're good to go.
So uh the but they so the they really do shine.
These um uh heating cooling uh piping systems uh really do uh work very well for uh high temperature areas, much more so than uh up here in the northwest where we're gonna have moderate temperatures all the time, and the delta will be reasonably moderate, uh good and bad.
So we won't get as much of uh benefit as the extreme uh cold and extreme hot areas.
But nonetheless, I suspect we'll get enough benefit out of this to reduce my propane cost, I'm hoping, by about as much as eighty percent.
Um so we'll see.
We're gonna keep track of it.
I've got an accurate record of propane use these last couple of years to heat this place, so uh we have a nice little test bed here, and we're gonna run that through.
Uh we've got a couple of other inventions that we're working on at the moment, uh one of which we're gonna see if we can't set a webcam up on reasonably soon, maybe October, November.
It's gonna depend on uh finances and whether or not we can get the corporate egregious offenders to pay their fair share on the reports, in which case then we can afford to get the equipment, set the webcams up, and be able to maintain the costs on them.
Um so you know, if we can make this work, we'll be able to expand some of our activities here.
And uh take advantage of and participate in some of the uh creativity explosion that's happening around the planet.
Um I guess that's about it.
Uh had an interesting adventure the other day, went out and uh looked at a very old uh used Japanese tractor.
Uh part of our one of our needs here is to have some uh mobile mechanical digging and lifting capability.
Anyway, it it dawns on me, of course, and I had to take my um Geiger counter along with me since it was from Japan, although it has been here for seven years, so other than the small amount of uh increase in radioactivity due to you know the thing thumping and burning diesel, uh you know, if you have a Geiger counter, you can check your microwave and the inside of your microwave oven will also be slightly hotter and in you know, engines are always uh slightly more radioactive than background, but uh no, this one was clean.
Uh wasn't able to get it, somebody got there, it was a good deal, they got there ahead of me.
But um anyway, uh hell of a planet here, you know, if you're buying anything heavy equipment or metallic or ceramic from um uh any source that may have uh Japanese sourced materials in it, uh you need to take that into account if it's not been in the country since uh pre-Fukushima.
Um just an interesting aside.
It uh kind of took Kale aback when he understood what what was going on and why the uh radmeter was along for the trip on this.
Uh I think that's about it.
Um, we uh hope to really uh uh as this report comes on out.
Oh, by the way, uh I'm really enthralled with all of the spacecope farts, but I'm uh information, but I'm a sucker for that.
Uh some really cool stuff in there this time.
There's just some really good stuff in here.
We couldn't not release the info.
We just needed to figure out a way to do it in such a way that we get paid for the work.
You know, I mean I've got um uh well I won't go into it, that's all personal stuff anyway.
Uh but uh we're at a situation where um uh there's good news in there for people.
There's a few cautions.
Uh things are shifting, everybody's aware of it.
Uh uh the shift is in the air on its way to the accelerator, and we'll just see how it goes.
But um we'll have the report out.
We won't uh we'll announce that we've emailed it, so you'll know that it's out.
So in other words, if you were to get approved for an application and we approved it and took your money and put you on an email list, and say that we mailed it out on, you know, August uh umpteenth.
Well, then uh on August umteenth we would go ahead and and put a notice on the site, hey, we mailed it out this morning.
And if you didn't get a copy, you know, uh check your email, check your spam filters, uh see if you've had any bounce backs, and uh if not, get back hold of us.
On the bounce backs, we'll try sending from another domain to get around that.
There's been less of them.
I'm starting to get all this stuff uh uh fixed up.
We'd had a yeah, I won't go into that either, no point.
Anyway, uh so we're sort of good to go.
Um and we hope to do some expansive stuff.
There's um uh we're marching into the Renaissance here, and it's gonna just be cool as hell over these next few months.
Um amidst all the chaos and the other crap, uh which we're just not going to allow to uh to affect us.
Uh looks like a good grape harvest, if any of the wine guys care uh in some areas, uh and abysmal in others.
So uh there's gonna be a real shortage in some um uh uh food commodities and it's gonna make an impact on some of the markets and stuff.
Uh just a freebie, I don't know if anybody's into it.
I I don't drink, I don't consume alcohol.
Uh but I like eating grapes, and I like um the process of putting all the bacteria to work to make wine, uh, even though I don't do anything with it.
Uh um but uh I'm just um uh came across the information about the grape harvest in the report and that uh uh so this is one of those weird years where it'll just be a terrible year for the wine industry, but at some point in the future, because of the um uh nature of the econom or of the environment this year uh we'll end up with um uh one of those special years for wine.
Uh I don't know which kinds or any of that kind of crud.
I just the data long term set has this thing basically saying that 2013 is just gonna be one of those years.
You know, really, really piss poor harvest in a lot of places, but those that have a harvest will just have spectacular product.
So, you know, good luck to all the wine drinkers.
Actually, good luck to all of us.
And that's the end of this.
Um we'll let you know how to apply for the applications.
Uh it'll be posted on our site over the next day or so.
And uh it's uh gonna be a pain in the ass to all of us, but we just don't have any other way around it.
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