One American - Chase Geiser - Freemasonry, Mass Formation Psychosis & The Lab Leak Theory | With Harrison Smith & Chase Geiser

March 10, 2023 - One American - Chase Geiser

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Freemasonry, Mass Formation Psychosis & The Lab Leak Theory | With Harrison Smith & Chase Geiser

In this thought-provoking discussion, Harrison Smith and Chase Geiser delve into some of the most pressing issues of our time. From the controversial topic of freemasonry to the recent emergence of the lab leak theory and the phenomenon of mass formation psychosis, these two experts offer a unique perspective on the current state of our world. Throughout the video, Smith and Geiser explore the historical roots and present-day manifestations of freemasonry, shedding light on some of the secretive organization's most puzzling rituals and practices. They also examine the ways in which freemasonry has influenced modern society, from politics to media to entertainment. Moving on to the lab leak theory, Smith and Geiser engage in a lively debate over the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the role that the Chinese government may have played in its spread. They consider the evidence for and against the lab leak theory, as well as the political and social implications of each possibility. Finally, the duo turns their attention to the concept of mass formation psychosis, a phenomenon that has garnered increased attention in recent months as people attempt to make sense of the widespread anxiety and fear surrounding COVID-19. Smith and Geiser explore the psychological and social factors that may be contributing to this phenomenon, offering insights and ideas for how we might begin to address and overcome it. Whether you are a longtime student of freemasonry, a concerned citizen seeking answers about the pandemic, or simply curious about the current state of the world, this conversation is sure to provide you with plenty of food for thought. So sit back, relax, and prepare to be challenged and inspired by Harrison Smith and Chase Geiser.

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	The political class buys everything.
	Dude, I did a deep dive research on all this mysterious deaths around the Clintons, about a dozen that are just fucking hard to shake.
	Klaus Schwab famously said that you will own nothing and be happy.
	Look at you.
	You start a show with absolutely nothing and you have thousands and thousands of listeners and you have force multipliers that send your content up.
	I was actually talking to Chase Geyser.
	He hadn't seen this.
	It just came out.
	I said, oh, you see this?
	You know, all these documents.
	Maybe I shouldn't even say what he said.
	I shouldn't have said his name.
	I won't tell you what he said.
	I actually did a getter stream last night with Chase Geyser.
	fantastic interview.
	It's One American Podcast live with Harrison Smith.
	Hopefully Jack Maxie will join us later.
	Haven't heard from him today.
	Yesterday he confirmed that he would come on the show.
	So hopefully he'll chime in.
	I let him know that he could come in at any time yesterday.
	So not necessarily expecting him here at the beginning of the episode, but hopefully he can come in and talk a little bit about Hunter Biden's laptop later.
	Harrison, it's an honor to have you on for the second time, man.
	I feel bad because you've had me on your show so many times and I've only had John once.
	And I was like, oh man, I need to reciprocate.
	You know, I was taking it pretty personally.
	So yeah, I'm very glad.
	No, it's great, great to be on here.
	A little boy's night online today.
	It's an honor to be asked.
	Thanks for having me on.
	And by the way, I was just watching your last interview with Jack Maxie.
	Incredibly interesting, by the way.
	It won't be as interesting as this video.
	So everybody watching should stay and watch this video.
	But afterwards, go check out Chase's old interview with Jack Maxie.
	Really awesome stuff.
	You know, I've had several videos taken down from YouTube.
	Namely, the Roger Stone episode is the one that comes to mind.
	And I don't know why they took that one down.
	And I can't believe that they haven't taken down the Jack Maxie episode because he says some stuff in that episode that is explicitly against YouTube's terms.
	And I'm not even talking about the controversial terms around COVID or elections.
	He says stuff that's probably actually against the law.
	I was going to say, yeah, hey, while it's still up, you know, go check it out.
	Yeah, it's good.
	He's, he is one of those sort of quiet American heroes.
	One of my favorite movies.
	It's cliche, but I love Dark Knight, Batman.
	And Jack Maxie is the embodiment of the phrase from that movie.
	I am what Gotham needs me to be.
	He's just quietly in the background.
	He doesn't seek the fame, doesn't seek the money.
	He just does what America needs.
	He is what America needs him to be.
	And that's why I really admire him.
	And I'm okay with him flaking out on podcasts if he wants to, because he's done so much for this damn country.
	Yeah, he's very clearly the real deal, man.
	There's a certain spirit, especially with veterans, man.
	Like, you know, I'm committed to the fight, but like, I think something happens when you're actually on the front line that like everything just gets ratcheted up a couple notches in seriousness, in like intensity, and you can just, it's in everything they say.
	It's totally fascinating.
	I think so too.
	And when I think about it, now that you mention it, it seems to me that if you've had combat experience and you're a thoughtful person, then you realize that there are actual life and death circumstances that are the result of politics.
	So, you know, we live these cushy lifestyles.
	It's easy to, we could choose to ignore politics and we wouldn't really notice that much except for maybe changes in gas prices or taxes here and there, term to term.
	But when you're in a war, I imagine, and I can only imagine that you're like, oh, actually, politics does matter because, you know, my buddy just got shot or I just got shot or I had to shoot somebody, right?
	I mean, that's like, that's where that is the tip of the spear.
	Of course, Alex Jones is the tip of the spear, but that is the real tip of the spear war.
	Yeah, that's the actual tip of the spear in the actual war.
	That's the wars that are taking place.
	Yeah.
	No, yeah, mad respect for him.
	And it was super fascinating.
	And again, it's just like, I guess it is just when you put your life on the line for something.
	You just like don't mince words.
	It's not like, which I thought was hilarious because I'm like you, where I see the humor and everything.
	So there are so many times in that interview where you like are just laughing at just the absurdity of it all.
	It's just like you can't help but just go, really?
	That happened?
	Like, that's crazy.
	Like, that's funny, right?
	And you'd just be like, no, it's not.
	It's like, well, it kind of.
	I mean, it is kind of funny.
	If you, if, you know, I can make a video that's two hours long of just Hunter Biden smoking crack.
	And I'm laughing.
	And he's like, it's not funny.
	Like, it's kind of funny, though.
	It is kind of funny.
	I mean, you got to have the gallows humor, man.
	You got to be able to laugh at this because or else I would just go insane, man.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, it's funny that you mentioned it because I was on Twitter today and I saw this article.
	This is my sense of humor.
	This is like humor is like my cope, my coping mechanism.
	So this article was something about Jehovah's Witnesses in Hamburg, Germany that got shot down in the church.
	Yeah.
	It says that the Associated Press shots were fired inside a building used by Jehovah's Witnesses in the German city of Hamburg on Thursday evening.
	And my comment was, how many witnesses?
	Of course, I feel bad for the Jehovah's Witnesses that got shot, but how could you not say that?
	But I refuse to pass up a perfectly decent pun when I see one.
	Absolutely.
	So usually I do this at the end of the show and that's probably a mistake.
	So I want to do it right now.
	Can you tell people who you are and what you do and where you do it?
	Certainly I can.
	My name is Harrison Smith.
	I am a host for InfoWars.
	I host the morning show.
	It's called American Journal.
	We go live every weekday morning from 8 to 11 a.m.
	Central Standard Time at InfoWars.com and Band.video.
	We also restream on Rumble and anywhere else that our amazing audience posts our streams illegally, but legally because we allow them to do it.
	So, yeah, you can tune in every weekday.
	Call in if you'd like.
	And, of course, you can follow me on Twitter at Harrison H. Smith.
	Harrison H. Smith is my Twitter account, offlimits.news.
	is the website and uh where you can find all the centralized stuff and i i don't know i need to get i need to get more into the social media stuff because you know info wars is like a it's a blessing and a curse because it's a blessing because obviously i have like a massive audience that i did not earn that i did not build myself so you know it's it's an amazing thing to be able to go on and just like speak my mind and have band.video where all of our videos get uploaded but at the same time it it's i feel like my my social media uh muscles
	atrophy because i don't i don't have to do any of that like yourself or so many other content creators like y'all are constantly having to promote yourselves or like you know get interactions on social media for me it's just like get it up on band.video and then you know the the the crew and the and the fans take it over from there so anyway that that's all uh that's all i have for you is my twitter account harrison h smith and you can find stuff from there you know i've had the the pleasure and privilege and
	honor of subbing on your show when you're out of town or on vacation or sick or whatever
	and you know the first one or two times I did it I was real nervous and it was real it was hard for me to do and then it got easy for me the you know fourth fifth or sixth time I did it but I have the benefit of only having to do it like once every two or three or four months so it's really easy for me to say what's on my mind because I haven't really had the opportunity to tell anyone about it except for my dog right and but I can't imagine having to fill three hours live monologue Monday through Friday so
	my question for you is how many hours outside of the actual show do you have to put in to be prepared well I mean you know I don't do anything else if that's what you're asking I don't have any hobbies I don't do anything no I uh yeah it's a constant thing right because news is constantly breaking I mean that's the thing is that to me the hardest part of the show is trying to talk about everything from that day in three hours like every day I leave
	stacks of news completely untouched because I just haven't had time to get to it but you can always find links to that at my substack harrisonhillsmith.substack.com I post all of the links each morning so you know all day I'm just bookmarking things on twitter and reading articles and watching videos and yeah just keep like a running sort of rolodex of like okay what's going on what do I need to talk about to talk about?
	What's surging?
	What's a story that nobody else is covering?
	What are hints of things that maybe I can dig into a little deeper?
	So, you know, it's sort of, you're sort of always on, except when I like have to totally decompress when I just like bombard myself with stimuli.
	I'm just like listening to a podcast and have like cartoons on.
	I'm playing video games just to like cleanse my mind of all of the horrors that I've had to think about for the entire day.
	But yeah, it's a, there's, you have no idea how many times that I've either started writing a tweet and I'm just like, I'm just going to save it for the show, or just like, instead of tweeting out something, you just like, all right, I can actually go for five or 10 minutes on this idea.
	So I'm just going to write it down in a little note and bring it up during the show.
	So, and then we have, I mean, we have callers and we have amazing guests and we have tons of videos that we watch each time.
	So it's, I legitimately get like more nervous going on a podcast like this than I do sitting in the studio just because I'm used to it at this point and there's like a routine and I can just sort of fall into it and feel real comfortable in it.
	So to me, it's the easiest job in the world and I feel blessed beyond measure just to be able to do it.
	So it's, I think it's legitimately, I think it's harder to do it just every once in a while than it is to do it every day.
	As long as you can, you know, handle the routine of like, that's the other thing.
	That's the other thing that's cool about it is like, it's a radio show.
	It's programmed in.
	There's no excuses.
	There's no going back.
	There's no re-recording.
	There's no, I didn't do that right.
	Let's let's do that again.
	Like you got to be there at 8 a.m because you're going live.
	And if you aren't there, your crew is sitting there going, do we show the empty desk?
	Do we, you know, do we just play videos and try to cover for a little while?
	So it's like, no excuses.
	There's no hand holding.
	No, like, I'm going to be five minutes late today.
	It's like, it's programmed in.
	The radio stations are beaming this around the world.
	Now is the time.
	You have to be there.
	So I need that.
	I need outside discipline because if it's just me, I love the Douglas Adams from Hitchhiker's Guide.
	He says, I love deadlines.
	I love the whooshing noise they make when they fly by.
	That's me.
	Deadlines just when they're not imposed from outside.
	Yeah, it's like the Charles Bukowski poem.
	I'm a big Charles Bukowski fan.
	The days go by, I think, or run away.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	He's got a line that's the days run away like wild horses over the hills.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's such a cool, I don't know.
	He was just, he was something else, man.
	But were you in a different studio this morning?
	Yes, I was.
	Yeah, we had a, we have to replace a piece of equipment.
	So I was in the war room studio, which today it wasn't so bad.
	The two days before, it's a little secret, a little behind the scenes for you.
	Owen Schroyer keeps that studio so cold.
	It's unnatural.
	I mean, it's the, the dude must, he must be running like a fever all the time because like I was freezing the first two days that we had to go out of the war room studio and the crew finally figured out how to turn the thermostat up.
	So it was a little bit warmer today.
	It wasn't so bad.
	But yeah, I was in Owen's studio, the most, the refrigerator that he broadcasts out of.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Well, I thought it looked great.
	You sounded great this morning.
	Everybody should go check out the coverage.
	So did you do, I didn't do as much preparation for this as I intended to.
	Did you do preparation for actually doing the deep dive at all into the lab league theory or the Hunter Biden laptop?
	I did some.
	I have a gigantic list.
	Let me, let me see.
	I have a Google Doc here.
	I'm going to, oh, wait.
	Do you ever do it?
	I switch from Mac to PC.
	So I'm always like hitting hot things that are not, that are not like not correct.
	So I, but I can tell you here in just a second just how many stories I found because it's a lot.
	Yeah, I found 50 stories yesterday just literally searching through like my archives and InfoWars and the gateway pundit.
	There's so.
	So do we want to set up for people?
	What you asked me was, apparently we're, apparently we're going toe-to-toe, head to head with a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist right now.
	Is that what's going on?
	Yeah.
	So what was frustrating was I thought that I was going to have to make all this stuff.
	But the fact of the matter is I don't have to make any of the stuff because it's already been made by the pros.
	So I'll show you.
	I'll give you the context.
	So let me see if I can find this guy's name.
	I can't even remember his name.
	Oh, what's his name?
	He's back here somewhere.
	I'm going to find it.
	So I tweeted at someone.
	I'll just show you.
	I'm just going to take a minute.
	You can hold, you can carry the show for a second while I find this.
	Oh, oh, here it is.
	Found it.
	Okay.
	So this guy, Michael Hiltzik.
	Let's see.
	This is showing you his profile.
	Yeah, it's carrying the tab.
	He's got 20,000 followers on Twitter and he's a Pulitzer Prize winning columnist author.
	Read my book, Iron Empire is in my blog.
	This is the guy, right?
	It looks kind of like the vacuum cleaner from Brave Little Toaster.
	Wait, I don't see anything.
	Am I supposed to be seeing some?
	Oh, hold on.
	That's my fault.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Okay.
	So let me see if I can get this.
	He looks like the vacuum cleaner from the Brave Little Toaster.
	He does, but it's showing you a different.
	Great callback.
	Yeah, I know.
	Okay, I'm going to find this.
	Here we go.
	Bear with me a second, folks, while I pull them up.
	Well, I can tell you.
	So this guy made the claim that there is no, like he wasn't mentioned whereas he said there is no evidence, zero evidence, not a iota of evidence that COVID came from a lab.
	Right.
	Which is frankly, it's an insane claim to make.
	It's an insane claim to make.
	That's different than saying there's no proof.
	Yeah.
	And you can.
	But to say there's no evidence.
	Right.
	You can say there's no strong evidence.
	You could say there's no physical evidence.
	You can say, right, it's not proven.
	There's no proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
	I think there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but beyond any standard.
	But to say there's no evidence at all is an insane claim to make.
	So Nate Silver posted this tweet on the 27th of February.
	He said, this is so refreshingly honest.
	Bad people thought the lab leak might be true.
	Therefore, as journalists, we couldn't be expected to actually evaluate the evidence for it.
	Basically, what happened was when Trump suggested that the lab leak was possible, that's when it became a political issue.
	And so Michael Hiltzig responded, Nate, you don't know what you're talking about on this topic.
	There isn't any evidence supporting the lab leak to evaluate, not a spec.
	If you've seen any, feel free to tweet back.
	I responded on the 28th.
	Do you actually want to look at the evidence or are you being hyperbolic?
	If so, I'm happy to spend some time putting together some real sources for you, but I don't want to waste my time if you won't give it serious consideration.
	And then he proceeded to respond a number of times.
	I see you falling silent.
	Not surprising, really.
	And I literally didn't see any of this stuff till March 2nd.
	And I'm a busy guy.
	I own a business.
	I was like, I just noticed this replies.
	I'll put something together as soon as I can.
	And finally, I just decided to try to do this podcast to see if I can put it together.
	But doing the research for this podcast, there is an abundance of evidence.
	And it's not just like, you know, Brett Weinstein.
	Like there are tons of scientists, tons of evolutionary biologists who have very sophisticated actual genomic arguments for why this could be a lab leak, not to mention all of the other circumstantial evidence.
	So that's the gist.
	That was kind of the inspiration for this show.
	But I did find the content and I was like, well, I don't need to recreate it.
	I could just send him these links.
	But I was afraid that if I sent him a link of a video that was 30 minutes long of somebody like Brett Weinstein, that he'd be like, oh, that guy's a kook.
	Cause every, they always do the ad hominem false here.
	Yeah, a reason to ignore whatever evidence that you put forward.
	But can you bring up that first tweet?
	Because the Nate Silver tweet, I think, is an important one too.
	I tried to come up with a term for this.
	The term I came up with is subjective deflection.
	Subjective deflection.
	This is the term because you see it constantly.
	You see it everywhere.
	You see it every single time the Democrats have to contend with something that they have done.
	They say, I don't have to answer that question because it's a political question from my enemies.
	So like wrap your mind around this.
	They're saying that because their opponents in the political sphere are saying something, that in and of itself is a reason they don't have to address it and that it's no longer important.
	So it's completely insane in a Democratic or Republican system where, you know, politicians are supposed to engage with the context and the content of the media and things that are out there.
	It's not like they're saying I don't have to deal with that.
	It's baseless, but they're trying to make something out of it.
	They're saying because Donald Trump said there might be a lab leak, therefore we don't have to pay attention to it and we don't have to give it any credence.
	It's an insane statement to make.
	Like that, that is such a bizarre way of seeing the world.
	The proper and obvious and the way that I'm sure that we act is if you hear a liberal say something insane, you go, all right, that's a crazy talking point.
	I'm going to dig into it and figure out if it is really crazy or not.
	And if it's not really crazy, then I'm going to deal with that.
	I'm going to go, okay, they're right in this regard.
	I do that all the time on my show.
	Like, I'm at times uncomfortable with how much I agree with like AOC and Ilhan Omar about foreign policy and war and that sort of stuff.
	But I'm happy to do it.
	I'm happy when we have disagreements that we can come together on.
	Yeah, I think that's important.
	That's like the next step, too, because it's really easy to see the hypocrisy of the other side.
	But the next step that you have to do is you also have to check your own hypocrisy.
	So then when I hear something like that, it begs the question: all right, what is something that I vehemently disagree with that I would not have the audacity to say there is no evidence for?
	So, for example, I am a staunch advocate of the Second Amendment, and I believe everybody should have a gun and have the right to have a gun.
	There should be much fewer or less regulations around firearms, whether it's sales, ownership, whatever, right?
	However, I would never say that there is not a speck of evidence that owning a firearm increases the likelihood of a death by a gunshot in your house.
	Like, like there is evidence for that.
	I think there's a better argument to counter that, but I wouldn't say like, oh, that's the most ridiculous notion ever.
	Like, it may, it's a reasonable notion.
	I just disagree with it.
	Right.
	And so one of the things that I've really seen is that we've transitioned from a culture that disagrees to a culture that is disagreeable.
	Like, we just fucking hate each other now.
	You know, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, guilty, right?
	I hate these fuckers.
	I hate these goddamn people.
	So I don't hate Hiltic.
	Oh, I don't know Hiltzik, but I hate what I know of him so far.
	Like, because again, it's like, it is legitimately hard to wrap your mind around this.
	And you can just point to the number of times they do it.
	Most recently, the reason I was like, we need a word for this is because both Majorkis, Alejandro Maorkis, and Sneaky Pete, which I still don't know how to pronounce his last name.
	And I'm so glad that somebody came up with a nickname Sneaky Pete for Pete, but a button, but a G, but a judge.
	I really don't know how.
	Booty jig, whatever.
	I literally don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what the correct pronunciation is.
	But it was both Majorkis and Sneaky Pete on the same day, basically confronted with their failure and not even acknowledging the problem because it was a complaint that the Republicans had.
	So, you know, when they were like, Myorkis, the border is open.
	This is a crisis.
	What do you have to say about that?
	He just says, this issue has been politicized.
	I'm not even going to answer that.
	It's like, no, no, you don't get to cause a problem.
	And then when somebody, and doesn't even have to be political opponents, you know, they do the same thing with like teachers who are parents who go to their teachers and go, why did my kid get this book?
	Right.
	You can have people who are themselves personally, totally apolitical, but they personally are impacted by policy.
	They go to complain about that policy.
	And the response is, we don't even have to give you the time of day because that's a right-wing talking point.
	And we can therefore dismiss it out of hand without even considering what it did to you, what effect it had, whether it's good or not.
	They just say, because you brought it up, I don't have to talk about it.
	I don't have to even admit that it's a problem.
	So Maorkis and Sneaky Pete both on the same day for the border and then for the Ohio train derailment was just like, this is a right.
	I get the conservatives are talking about this a lot, but we've had a thousand train accidents and nobody brought it up before, right?
	It's like, no, no, no, you don't get to just ignore your own failure because your opponents are talking about it.
	It's just, it's a ridiculous way to see the world.
	And think about just with COVID, they said that caring about it while it was still in China was a racist talking point that they didn't have to consider because Trump's a racist and that's the only reason he was bringing it up.
	The travel ban, you know, the travel ban during COVID.
	He wanted to stop flights from China.
	They said, we aren't even going to consider that.
	Go hug a Chinese.
	Remember, Nancy Pelosi did a thing.
	She's like, go to Chinese parades and hug a Chinese person.
	So like this whole thing has almost been caused by this impulse by the Democrats to go, because Trump said it or because conservatives said it, we don't have to give it any credence.
	We don't have to listen to it at all.
	They did it with the lab leak, right?
	They did it with the existence of COVID in the first place.
	They did it with the origin of COVID coming from China as a country, saying that's a racist talking point.
	So I don't have to address it.
	They've done it with the vaccine.
	They did it with, of course, they did it with the election, the stolen election in 2020, right?
	Hey, we think the election is stolen.
	Ah, it's just a conservative talking point.
	That's what Republicans want you to think.
	So we don't have to even address it, even when there's tangible evidence that it's the case.
	So like that first tweet by Nate Silver, I think is, it makes me see red, man.
	Makes me really, really question whether there is any coming to terms with these people, whether there's any ability for them to have the necessary and requisite humility to even address the problems that need to be dealt with in the first place.
	Like, how do you deal with someone like that?
	How do you deal with someone who dismisses out of hand a perfectly reasonable conclusion because it came from someone they don't like?
	Like, it's just insane.
	Well, and here's the thing, too.
	Like, if it was proven because new evidence were to come in that COVID was actually from natural sources, it did manifest in nature and hop from a batter or an animal to humans.
	If that was proven, I would have no problem with that.
	I wouldn't feel disappointed that I had the wrong intuition.
	Like, I don't care one way or the other because it doesn't really matter politically.
	I guess it does because there's a culpability component for China.
	But what I don't understand, other than what you just said about the fact that just because Trump said it, what I don't understand is why the left seems to want it to be true that COVID was not a lab leak.
	Like, why do they want that to be true so badly?
	No, that's the thing, man.
	It's a compulsion with them.
	It's like a pathology.
	It's like a, it's a, it is a misconstruction in their brain somewhere.
	That that's that's why I say, like, I don't, and increasingly more and more in my show and stuff, it's like we cannot talk to these people.
	We cannot reason with these people because how do you reason with somebody who, as you just pointed out, like, has this knee-jerk reaction to something they're not invested in?
	It doesn't benefit them politically at all.
	It's just this impulse, almost like a, like a, like an animal running.
	You know, it's just like they don't know why they're doing it.
	They just know it's, it's what they need to do.
	They just know that because Trump said it first, that they have to oppose it with everything they've got.
	They have to, you know, ignore it, cast it off to the side.
	Or maybe they fully get the implications because that's the other thing is that you remember when the vaccine mandates were first suggested, there was article after article.
	Politicians, everybody had this visceral reaction, right?
	When people first said, hey, we think there's going to be vaccine passports, everybody was like, oh my God, no, no, God, no, that would never happen, right?
	That's the first impulse.
	That's the correct impulse because they, because they understand the impact.
	Even Biden was saying it would never wouldn't happen.
	Yeah.
	And they, and, you know, Weiss was writing articles.
	Um, I'm, I can remember a very specific one where they're just like, no, nobody's doing vaccine path because they get it.
	They understand, like, okay, what you're talking about is a passport to live your normal life that is dependent on you taking a shot that doesn't even exist yet.
	Like, that's they get how horrifying that is.
	Uh, and then they override that somehow.
	And then, you know, six months later, they're demanding a vaccine mandate, even though six months before they understood perfectly how viscerally wrong it was.
	So, I don't legitimately, I think there's like there's like something wrong with these.
	There's something wrong with Nate Silver.
	There's something wrong with this toaster dude, the vacuum dude.
	Like, there's something wrong with these people that they are incapable of seeing reality unfiltered.
	And that's all you really have to do.
	Have you had a chance yet?
	I know you're busy as hell to read Michael Malice's new book, The White Pill.
	No, so he just came out.
	Do you follow Malice at all?
	Yeah, a little bit.
	Yeah.
	He's got a great podcast called You're Welcome.
	Uh, great Twitter account.
	He's a major anarchist.
	He was actually just on Joe Rogan yesterday last year in Austin.
	I think he used to be friends.
	He might, he's probably still friends with Alex.
	I know, yeah, I know.
	Actually, yeah, he took a picture of the Infowar studio today and posted on Instagram.
	He might have been on Alex Jones today.
	I don't know.
	No, really?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	He was on like yesterday, I think.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, this book, man, The White Pill, is so good.
	It's a history of all sorts of things, but it really goes through what it was truly like to live in communism.
	I'm about halfway through it, so I'm in the Russian form of communism.
	And one of the things that blew my mind about it is because when you hear stories about communism, obviously a major function of their society, a major function of their enforcement was informants, informing on your neighbor, children informing on their parents.
	We see it in movies like Equilibrium 2.
	It's a very Orwellian true thing that the more authoritarian a government is, the more the citizens inform on one another for favor.
	And as an American who's only experienced freedom, my interpretation of that was, oh, these people were so scared that they felt that they had to inform in order to protect their family or themselves or whatever.
	And what he pointed out in the book was that that wasn't actually the reason people were informing.
	People were informing because they felt like they wanted to do the right thing.
	And that's like another level of tyranny, like where you've actually been brainwashed into believing.
	And we saw that with COVID, where there was this antagonism toward the notion of vaccine mandates.
	Oh, that's ridiculous.
	And then there were instances of people reporting on their neighbors for not following like mask policy or calling the authorities when someone wasn't wearing a mask in a public place.
	Like really silly stuff.
	I mean, I was at the airport and I saw a guy in a suit, young guy my age, walking by and he had a mask on, and the mask on it just said it goes over your nose, right?
	Just like he was just rubbing it in your face that he was wearing a mask and you're a dumbass if you don't have it over your nose, right?
	And like, obviously, all of the data shows that the masks, unless you're wearing like an N95, didn't work.
	And it was public information at the time.
	And like the cognitive dissonance just blew my mind.
	You know, we struggle with that.
	It goes even further than that, I think.
	So I totally agree with what you're saying.
	And I was reading a good book.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if I could find the title of it now, but it was about a KGB defector who actually came over to the British and American side during the Cold War.
	And it was his story.
	He wrote it.
	And he was talking about, you know, what it's like having your wife as an informant, right?
	Because your wife valued her relationship with the state more than her relationship with you.
	And there's almost this inverse thing of what we would think.
	We even saw it during January 6th: kids testifying against their father and sending him away for six decades.
	There's a guy that went to jail for 60 years because his children testified against him.
	And so there's this weird inverse where they go, the more despicable thing you do, the more you are sacrificing, the more virtuous you are.
	So it's not like, oh my God, I have to turn in my parents.
	It's like, that's how committed I am.
	I have to turn my parents.
	You know, people liked that the vaccine made them suffer.
	They liked getting the vaccine and feeling sick the next day because they thought, yes, this is how good I am.
	This is what I'm willing to go through for other people.
	I'm sacrificing myself for the better, for the greater humanity.
	So the worse it is, the more virtuous I am.
	The more difficult it is to testify against my own father.
	That's just how committed I am.
	It's proof of how virtuous I am.
	So, yes, especially in communist countries, I think it was a little bit of both because there definitely was the fear aspect.
	There definitely, and there's the paranoia aspect of am I, you know, is this person really asking me to go against the Communist Party, or is this a trick from the Communist Party?
	Does this guy have orders?
	And they said, Hey, go ask to betray.
	And if he doesn't tell us, if he doesn't turn around and come to us, then we know he holds secrets from us.
	We're going to send him to the gulag.
	So there's like, there's so many different levels to it.
	And yeah, literally read anything about what it was like at any point during the Soviet Union, but especially in like the heat of the Cold War, the 70s, 80s.
	And it's, it's baffling how paranoid they had to be, how their paranoia was justified, how, especially if they were actually in the security structure, you know, all of the classic stuff where the KGB would break into your house and not even necessarily do anything, but just move stuff around a little bit just to let you know they had been there, just to leave a little bit of evidence, just so you know that you're not outside of their reach.
	Or, you know, yeah, that you know, you didn't know if you're, you couldn't tell your wife how you were feeling because she would run to the to the KGB.
	You certainly go to couldn't go to any of your friends or anything.
	I mean, it's it's the entire society was bent around that idea of you will have no privacy, you will own nothing, right?
	And you'll have to be happy, you know.
	So, uh, yeah, hyper, yeah, hyper isolation, even amongst a crowd.
	So I, I, I would like to read the great irony of collectivism, yeah.
	I just, and I just wanted to show this real quick.
	I know that's, it's, it's a drawback, but uh, just speaking of the masks thing, this was published by the United States Environmental Protection Agency, the EPA, published this article on April 5th of 2021.
	And they have a whole chart here.
	Do you remember how when you went to the airport, you had to wear a mask, but it couldn't be a bandana, right?
	It had to be like a real mask.
	Check this out.
	You scroll down here.
	This is the fitted filtration efficiency or efficacy, right?
	So they have all the different types of masks that you can wear, and what percentage of viral load is blocked by it, right?
	So whether it's got a luminar nose bridge.
	And if you look, a cotton bandana is either worn like this or this is 49% effective, which is more than like most other forms of masks, 28%, 26% like this.
	You scroll down this whole chart, 38% for the paper ones that everyone was wearing, right?
	I mean, if you wore it like that, you know, with the hoops, with a twisted, and then you're at 60%, but nobody was wearing it like that.
	You didn't have to wear it like that.
	So like the bandana was actually more effective than the way in which everyone was wearing the masks, but it was the one that wasn't allowed.
	That was what was so frustrating to me.
	It was like, none of this was based on reason.
	It was all based off of just you looked like you weren't conforming if you were wearing a bandana.
	So it was harmful to like the narrative or the brand or the propaganda to do it, even though it was actually safer for you to wear a bandana than the face of the paper one.
	Yeah, see, I hadn't seen that chart before.
	That's super interesting.
	It's the EPA.
	Yeah, and I remember sort of around that same time period having an argument with some of my family and going, okay, if the masks are effective, then only the medical ones are, right?
	Only the official like N95 ones are.
	But the fact that you could put a tissue up and tie it around your ears and that would be considered a mask means it's not about efficacy.
	It's about submission.
	It's about the look.
	It's about looking like you're conforming.
	So almost the opposite or like, you know, in a weird way, parallel or perpendicular to what you're saying.
	Because yeah, it was like, it didn't actually matter how efficacious it was.
	It was just whether you were doing it or not.
	They wanted to know that you were willing to put something over your mouth, which is why actually Michael Malice, didn't he have the minimum requirement thing where it was like lace and you could breathe through it really easily, but it technically fulfilled the sounds like something you would do.
	I'm not familiar with that, but it sounds like something would be.
	I think that was one that he did.
	It was called like minimal compliant or something, like a minimal compliant mask.
	And yeah, you know, you could have lace that was just completely breathable, did nothing to stop air or molecules or anything, and yet it would count because at least you were submitting, at least you were doing the thing that you were supposed to do.
	So yeah, it was all psychological from the very beginning.
	So I did a little bit of research on the lab leak theory, and I'm not going to go in deep because I'm not well versed enough to do it justice in terms of going into the details of the biology, but I did make a list.
	So here is a list of like eight things that I came across when I was kind of looking in arguments in favor of the lab leak theory.
	Number one, Wuhan deleted their databases, their database of viruses around the time that the pandemic started, their online database, right?
	Number two, Wuhan kept it a secret that they harvested multiple deadly bad viruses from a group of miners who contracted SARS-like diseases.
	Three researchers from the Wuhan Institute were hospitalized in November of 2019.
	The U.S. has incentive to cover it up because we outsourced gain of function research to China since it's illegal here, just like we outsourced slave labor to China because it's illegal here.
	Elements such as the Furin site seem to be engineered.
	So the way that COVID-19 basically attaches, my understanding attaches and infects human beings, this genetic sequence on it is something that's very unique to being infectious to human beings.
	It's not something that comes from like a bat or another animal in nature.
	It just seems to have come out of nowhere with this virus.
	It seems hyper coincidental that the virus started in a city right next to a lab that researched viruses like this.
	Yeah, huge coincidence.
	Wasn't that crazy what a coincidence that was?
	Yeah.
	And the virus appears to be excellent at spreading among humans, minks and ferrets, which is likely to be what was used in the lab.
	And the other thing, too, is the virus is much more infectious indoors than outdoors, which implies that it evolved in an indoor environment, not out like outside of nature, which I think is interesting.
	So those are just like circumstantial pieces.
	None of those prove anything.
	And all of those have potentially reasonable explanations other than that this was leaked from a lab.
	But when you take all of these anomalies, and this is just a short list, there are much more.
	There are many more, but when you take all these anomalies and you put them together, I mean, it's very reasonable to hold the hypothesis or believe the theory that this was an accidental leak from a lab.
	I mean, it seems like this was China's Chernobyl.
	They just screwed up.
	You know, let's put it this way.
	Look at it like it's a murder investigation.
	Look at it like it's a suspicious death investigation.
	Say there is a death where, you know, some young, healthy person falls down the stairs and ends up dead.
	And you don't know if it was an accident, could have perfectly well been a total mistake, and that would be very sad, or it was on purpose and by design and somebody pushed them and wanted to cause their death.
	Because that's how you have to look at this.
	And so when you're trying to solve a murder, you look at means, motive, and opportunity, right?
	But first you have to decide whether it was a murder or whether it was an accident.
	Well, if you go and you find out that the person who was with them at the time lied about being with them, when the police first questioned them, they said, no, I wasn't there at all.
	I heard a noise and came running out.
	And then you see the security camera footage and actually it looks like they were walking together right before the guy fell.
	That alone would be enough to shoot that guy up to the top of the suspect list, right?
	Because lying in and of itself is evidence of wider wrongdoing.
	People don't just lie to lie.
	They lie for a purpose.
	They lie for a particular reason.
	So when this guy asks, he says there is no evidence.
	First, you have to ask, you know, what is evidence?
	And does circumstantial evidence count?
	If there is no physical evidence, you have to ask the question, why is that?
	Why is there no physical evidence?
	Is there physical evidence not being presented because it doesn't exist, because they looked for it and found none?
	Or is it because the search for the physical evidence itself was corrupted, subverted, and messed up?
	Again, when you go to, and this is more than a murder, right?
	We're talking about a mass murder.
	We're talking about maybe the greatest mass murder in the history of the world, the release of the COVID pandemic.
	Sure.
	You know, even the, even the more conservative numbers, hundreds of thousands of people died from this.
	So to treat it with anything less than the seriousness that you would treat somebody falling down the stairs is ridiculous, right?
	Sure.
	And even if you didn't die from it, if you got it, you couldn't talk to anybody for 10 days.
	I mean, it impacted everyone.
	Oh my God.
	Yeah.
	It's believe me.
	Yeah.
	The psychological damage, the economic damage.
	And of course, that's another thing that we could go back to the what I call subjective deflection, where when we all, including Trump and myself, were saying we shouldn't lock down.
	This is going to be economically devastating.
	The consequences of lockdown will be worse than the virus ever will be.
	Their answer was, that's just a Trump talking point because they value the economy over people's lives.
	When the reality is the economy being destroyed will destroy more people's lives than the virus.
	Every 1% that unemployment increases, 40,000 Americans die.
	Did you know that?
	I believe it.
	Increased stress, heart failure, things like losing your job, financial pressure.
	They did a study in the 80s.
	I believe it was in the 80s they did the study.
	And at the time, it was like 38,000 people die for every one, but now the population is a little bit larger.
	So it's closer to 40,000.
	Every 1% that unemployment goes up, 40,000 people die.
	So when you're going to do a lockdown, there are going to be casualties.
	So you simply have to weigh, all right, how many lives are we going to save versus how many are we going to lose?
	Dude, outside, I mean, the numbers that they've said for the number of cancers that went unscreened because people weren't allowed to go to the hospital for regular checkups alone is more than the number of people that died from COVID itself.
	So we could go on and on about that.
	But for the point of evidence, so again, just thinking of this like a murder.
	If we have no physical evidence, why is that?
	Is it because nobody ever looked for physical evidence, right?
	If the person who comes on the scene goes, look, the guy fell down the stairs.
	It was an accident, case closed, and that's it.
	Of course, you don't have any evidence of the murder.
	You didn't look for any.
	The guy, and hey, if it turns out that the guy who was at the top of the stairs right before the guy fell is also the lead investigator, that's a big point of concern and you should look into that, which is exactly what happened Here.
	But to think about the lab leak as a theory, you have to ask the question: you know, first of all, you have to ask, is this even a theory that is worth considering on its face, or can it be written off out of sheer absurdity?
	Is it so fantastical?
	Is it such an absurd thing that we can just write it off?
	And as we narrow down suspected origins, you know, we can write off things like aliens dropped it.
	We can write off things like, you know, I don't know, it was it came from a video game, right?
	Like there are some things where it's like came from a video game, but no, I'm just not even going to consider that because that's a waste of my time.
	The lab leak hypothesis is not only eminently possible, there is video of Peter Dazik, the man who funded the Wuhan lab through EcoHealth Alliance, and also, by the way, turned out to be the investigator, the only American, he's British, but the only American investigator on the WHO team that was sent to Wuhan to investigate was Peter Dasik.
	So here you have the main suspect acting as the main investigator.
	Meanwhile, the WHO will not say Taiwan.
	They say Chinese Taipei.
	So they're pretty much run by the CCP.
	100%.
	And, you know, the Chinese certainly covered it up.
	They certainly, as you pointed out, deleted a lot of their, you know, the data.
	Yeah.
	The data, the codes, you know, they covered up the outbreak for a while at first.
	But I mean, we all knew it was happening.
	We all knew it was happening for months before the American government ever acknowledged it.
	So even that's not exactly an excuse.
	But Peter Dasik has a video from, I think, 2015 or 2017 where he explains in detail, step by step, how one would humanize a coronavirus, a bat coronavirus.
	So it's not just possible, right?
	You cannot, it's imminently possible.
	It is something they were actually actively doing.
	So you can't write it off as fantastical, and you can't claim that there is no evidence because there is an overabundance of circumstantial evidence.
	There is no physical evidence, but that's specifically because the investigation never looked for physical evidence.
	They never investigated Wuhan, the Wuhan lab.
	They investigated the wet market and they took a tour of the Wuhan lab, but they never investigated it in the way that one would investigate a crime of this matter.
	So that in and of itself is evidence of suspicious activity.
	That is the person who was the last person to see the dead person alive lying about their last whereabouts.
	And in a murder case, the smallest little lie is a big deal, right?
	If you say I went to Wendy's when really went to McDonald's, that's like a red flag to investigators.
	That's like, okay, why is he lying about that?
	What happened at McDonald's that he doesn't want us to know about or whatever, right?
	So, so the fact that not only do we know they covered up and tried to shift away from the lab leak theory, Fauci actually paid for and commissioned a paper that he then, without admitting that he commissioned it, went on to cite that very paper as a reason to dismiss the lab leak.
	So he was actively involved in creating the alibi, essentially, right?
	Right.
	Actively involved in steering attention away from it, which again, you have to ask: if this was a naturally occurring virus, why would he do that?
	What would be his impetus for doing that?
	What would be his motive for trying to get away from the lab?
	Because again, if you're somebody who is entrusted with being the superlative power in charge of guiding America through this crisis, the number one thing you would want is accurate information.
	The origin of the virus would be the most important information you could find in terms of how to deal with the virus, the deadliness The virus, where it's coming, where it's going, how it mutated.
	All of these things are absolutely necessary in the treating of and confronting of and preventing the spread of the virus.
	So obviously, it was a cover-up.
	Like, there's no question to it.
	There's no, like, if this was a murder case, it would be a conviction because it's beyond a reasonable doubt.
	It's not saying that it's, you know, there's another standard.
	There are multiple standards, right?
	There's like beyond a reasonable doubt.
	You know, I can't remember the other ones.
	There's one that's like slightly less.
	That's like an overabundance of evidence.
	Meaning, like, yeah, you can have some reasonable doubt, but it's preponderance of evidence.
	Preponderance of evidence.
	Exactly.
	That's like what like grand juries and stuff work off of, where the, you know, conviction, but you know, it's not so high that you have to have video of them doing it and an admission of them doing it, you know, and them on tape admitting they did it and them with the, because then, you know, that's not just beyond a reasonable doubt.
	That's beyond any doubt whatsoever.
	We aren't at that level of certainty, but we fulfill right up to it.
	I mean, right up to it.
	And I would say we even, we even possibly crossed that line into an abundance of an overabundance, a preponderance of evidence, a beyond any doubt whatsoever for multiple reasons.
	For one thing, the Wuhan lab not only was doing this coronavirus gain of function research, not only was it funded by America through EcoHealth Alliance and the NIH.
	Right.
	And Fauci says that they didn't fund gain of function research, that they funded something else.
	But if I give you $5,000 and you spend $5,000 that you already had on something else, I enabled that behavior.
	So even if the five grand I gave you was for your mortgage or whatever, if you spend five grand and you buy illegal firearms, like you wouldn't have been able to do that had I not given you the five grand to cover your other expenses that were a priority.
	So to say that we didn't fund it, even though it wasn't directly funded by us, we still enabled it.
	It's also just a matter of semantics.
	It's rhetoric.
	You know what?
	It's semantics.
	And frankly, I'm anti-semantic.
	I'm anti-semantic.
	And you can take that to the bank.
	But seriously, you know, Pfizer, yeah, Pfizer just did it, right?
	Where they said they were caught on tape with the guy going, you were performing gain of function research.
	And Pfizer came out and said, no, no, no, we're performing accelerated evolution or something, right?
	They called it a different name, but for all intents and purposes, it's exactly the same.
	I didn't push him down the stairs.
	I nudged him down the flight.
	It's like, okay, you shoved him down the stairs.
	You did gain of function research.
	But here's some of the headlines I pulled for today.
	From July 20th of last year, FBI investigated a decision by NIH, Fauci, and Dr. Collins, who's Fauci's boss, to fund Wuhan Lab and its controversial testing of bat coronaviruses.
	Oh, well, we were just testing it.
	We were just testing different variations of it that we created in a lab, right?
	Obvious.
	Not only that, scientists actually discovered a chunk of DNA in COVID that perfectly matches a Moderna patented sequence from before the pandemic.
	So a group of researchers discovered that COVID-19 has a small piece of DNA that matched the genetic sequence patented by Moderna Inc.
	three years before the start of the pandemic in 2021.
	A basic local alignment search tool, BLAST, searched for the 12 nucleotide insertions, led us to a 100% reverse match in a proprietary sequence found in the U.S. patent 9,587,0003 filed on February 4th, 2016.
	In bioinformatics, BLAST is an algorithm and program for comparing primary biological sequence information, such as the amino acid sequences of proteins or the nucleotides of DNA and or RNA sequences.
	COVID-19 is made up of 30,000 letters of genetic code to carry the information it needs to and needs to spread that are known to nucleotides.
	The commonality was a small piece made up of 19 nucleotides, but the chance of it being a random match just occurring in nature and by coincidence matching this thing is like one in a trillion.
	It's like DNA.
	They essentially found, you know, matching DNA.
	This is like matching DNA on the corpse, right?
	This is also, weirdly enough, there's a story on the weather channel, which is a, but it's like the weather channel slash the times of India.
	It's very weird, but it says new study finds COVID-19 DNA linked to Moderna Patent patent filed in 2016.
	It sparks discussion on lab leak theory.
	So that doesn't necessarily mean that Moderna created it.
	It means that it was running tests and coming up with all of the various iterations that could be created from it and were patenting that for eventual use or China just did an IP intellectual property theft and used the patented DNA sequence in their own experiments and just, you know what I mean?
	They do that all the time with other tech.
	Yeah, that's uh, that's not a bad thought either.
	But of course, again, they were working with EcoHealth Alliance, they were working with Peter Dazik.
	And, you know, a whistleblower has come out and said that Peter Dazik, just before the COVID-19 pandemic, had actually told him that the CIA had approached him.
	And he was asking, Do you think I should work with him?
	This is Dr. Andrew Huff.
	Dr. Andrew Huff says that, and he worked in them.
	He's a whistleblower.
	He's sort of blown the lid off the whole thing.
	And he's not, you know, shy about saying it was absolutely a lab leak.
	And that Peter Dasik was likely working with the CIA at the time.
	So you've got the cover-up that happened, right?
	Emails show Dr. Fauci commissioned a February 2020 paper to disprove COVID leak from Wuhan Lab.
	This is actually a fairly recent story.
	This is what a lot of the talks in Congress have been about recently.
	And again, just looking at this like a murder, just putting this in human terms that we can understand.
	This is the police getting a recording of the guy they suspect of being a murderer, calling his friend and going, Hey, man, I really need you to say we were bowling on Tuesday.
	You've got to say we were bowling on Tuesday at eight.
	I need you to say that.
	It was a cover-up.
	It was an alibi.
	And he did it in front of everybody.
	So not only did he do what they caught him doing, they caught him fabricating this scientific study to then point to, without ignitting, not saying, oh, I commissioned this and it says there's no lab leak.
	He didn't say that.
	He said, well, these respectable scientists have commissioned it.
	Scientists, by the way, who got $9 million in NIH funding shortly after doing this, they were also the ones that emailed Dr. Fauci saying, we think this was a lab leak.
	They have a conference call.
	Two days later, they put out this article saying it's not a lab leak.
	A few days after that, they get $9 million, right?
	So this was orchestrated.
	We know all the people.
	We know all the players.
	We know the timeline of how it went, why they did what they did.
	It was about getting money from NIH and Dr. Fauci.
	But you also have to consider: not only was he, you know, derelict in his duty of actually trying to get to the truth to provide the best care as head of the medical, you know, whatever.
	If I'm a murder suspect and I call Chase and go, hey, man, could you say we were bowling when my friend died?
	That's a risk, right?
	That's like a major risk.
	Yeah, thanks, man.
	I know I can always reach out to you.
	No, but that's a major risk to take.
	So you have to ask, why would he put himself in a position like this?
	I was thinking about this with Jack Maxie, too, in your old thing, when you were talking about the 50 intelligence agents who signed a letter saying that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.
	You have to ask yourself, why would they sign a letter that was such easily disprovable lies?
	Everybody knew it was going to come out eventually that Hunter's laptop was real.
	So they put their name to a letter that they knew was going to be proven to be false.
	That's an act of desperation, just like these Dr. Fauci commissioning a paper.
	They needed the talking point for that last month of the election cycle.
	They needed that talking point, you know, that 50 intelligence professionals, right?
	Because just like Peter Strzok in 2016 with his insurance plan, they thought if we can get Joe Biden into office, then we can cover up everything that we did.
	So we can do whatever we want now, but as long as it's effective, as long as we get what we want, as long as we get Joe Biden in office, all of the crimes that we did, we can cover up through Joe Biden being in office.
	So that's the same thing that happened here with Dr. Fauci.
	For him to put himself in this vulnerable position where he is doing suspicious things to try to cover this up, this was an act of desperation because he knew what the truth was.
	None of this makes any sense at all if it's a naturally occurring virus.
	Fauci wouldn't commission this article.
	He wouldn't take that risk.
	He wouldn't dismiss or try to cover up theories that it was.
	And the counter to saying there's no evidence that it was a lab leak.
	What evidence is there that it was natural?
	Like, have you identified the bat?
	Is the bat native to the area?
	Like, how do you know that this?
	Do you know what community of either bats or humans that this virus was allowed to infect and evolve in before it reached the level of virality that it finally achieved?
	Like, there's no evidence of this virus actually developing on an evolutionary evolutionary path toward its final outcome.
	There's only no virus and then everywhere the virus, which is very bizarre.
	I mean, we haven't seen the likes of that since HIV.
	Well, and that wasn't naturally occurring either, if you really want to get into it.
	You don't think so?
	So, so I do want to hear your thoughts on HIV, but I want to share something related to HIV and Fauci that is indirectly personal.
	Okay, so I don't know.
	I don't know if I've talked to you about this, Harrison.
	I think I have.
	You know that I have got type A hemophilia, right?
	Yes.
	So, it's a bleeding disorder.
	Ryan White's story.
	Yeah, you won't let me try to shoot an apple off your head with my bow and arrow.
	Well, so the life expectancy for hemophiliac without medicine is about 11 years for a severe hemophiliac.
	And the way that you die, if you look at like the Russian family was famous for the hemophiliacs, then the way that you die is actually internal bleeding rather than like bleeding out.
	So it typically impacts your joints.
	Like if I don't take my medicine and you see me in two weeks, I will be limping because I'll be bleeding in my ankle.
	It attacks the joints.
	And then what happens is eventually the internal bleeding gets so bad that you suffocate in many cases.
	Haemophiliacs, number one cause of death now, since the medicine is available is aneurysm, like in your 60s.
	You seven eight years and it's done, right?
	So anyway, what happened was in the 70s and 80s, new medicine was developed to treat hemophilia for the first time.
	So what would happen before if you had a hemophiliac child is your kid would come home and they'd be limping really bad because they played basketball and they weren't supposed to and something sprung loose in their ankle and it didn't heal, right?
	And what you'd have to do is take them to the hospital and give them a blood transfusion so that they had blood that could clot to heal the wound, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then what happened was there was a big advance in the medicine where they figured out how to take blood donations and isolate the factor VIII protein, which is the protein that hemophiliacs don't produce.
	It's the protein that you naturally produce that makes your blood clot internally, externally.
	It's what makes scabs, everything, all your healing is based on this factor eight protein.
	It's like the vitamin D of not bleeding, right?
	And so what they were able to do is take blood donations and synthesize it into this factor eight protein and give it to hemophiliacs preventatively.
	So three times a week at home, you inject yourself in a vein and you do an intravenous plunge of this synthetic protein.
	It lasts about a day and a half.
	And you're pretty, I mean, you have a pretty normal life expectancy.
	You can't play football, but you're not going to be limping around and crippled, right?
	And the crazy thing about this, and what I want to do is actually share my screen and show you.
	I want to do a window.
	The crazy thing about this is if you look at Fauci's career, for example, in 1980, he was appointed the chief of the NIAIDS Laboratory of Immunoregulation.
	So this is like a subsidiary or subcategory of the NIH that focuses on immune response.
	This is in 1980, right before the AIDS outbreak.
	And he was a director in 1984, right?
	So he was really heavily involved in the research or the government entities that were responsible for the research of things like AIDS when AIDS broke out.
	He got the job before it really broke out, but it broke out right when he was sort of the guy.
	Okay.
	And what's fascinating is if you look at the hemophilia story, and this is why I was so skeptical about all of the COVID-related narrative throughout this whole process, if you look at it in 1981, concern was growing over an unidentified infectious disease associated with immune system collapse that would later be known as AIDS, right?
	It's found mostly in homosexual men.
	I'm sorry, intravenous.
	Can we note for a second that they didn't know, and there's still some speculation whether it was a virus or not?
	They originally thought it was a cancer and it was popularly known as gay cancer.
	Can we just refer to it as gay cancer from now on?
	I'm not kidding.
	That's absolutely true.
	I'm not calling it that, but I appreciate the 1982.
	The United States Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported that three hemophiliacs had acquired the disease.
	That's AIDS, right?
	And what basically they figured out was there were blood donors in major cities that were giving blood for money because they were either junkies or whatever.
	And their blood was infected with AIDS and they were making the medicine out of their blood and the virus was surviving and parents were injecting their kids inadvertently with hepatitis and HIV.
	And this ultimately resulted in the death of six to 10,000 hemophiliacs just in the United States.
	Okay.
	Now, the crazy thing isn't that they accidentally did this.
	The crazy thing is that they knew this was happening as early as 1982.
	And the drug companies didn't stop selling the contaminated medication and didn't even inform the parents of the issue until 1985.
	And then when the United States finally, and this is all while Fauci's at the NI AIDS, and in 1985, when they finally made it illegal to sell the contaminated product in the United States, what did the drug companies do?
	They sold their contaminated inventory overseas, right?
	Like, all right, well, we can't sell it here.
	We don't want to waste it.
	So they literally just murdered people for the bottom line all over the world and in the United States.
	And they knew about it for years in the United States before anything was done about it.
	While Fauci, and it's not his fault, like exclusively, he was in a leadership position.
	He should have known.
	And there were conferences.
	You can go back and see the minutes of people talking about this.
	There were doctors raising red flags.
	There were hemophiliacs going and protesting.
	And there were, I'll tell you, when I was a kid, I went to see a hematologist every six months.
	His name was Dr. Bohassan.
	He was awesome.
	We'd go to St. Louis.
	I go do a checkup.
	They make sure that I can bend my elbow because you develop arthritis when you bleed internally like that.
	Just a regular checkup, make sure the medicine was working.
	I didn't develop an inhibitor.
	And when he retired, I went to his retirement party.
	I think I was probably 16.
	We drove down to St. Louis.
	We went to his retirement party at the hospital.
	And I looked around and I saw all these parents everywhere, but no hemophiliacs.
	Because everyone that was born before 1990, the year I was born, was fucking dead.
	And these parents went to Dr. Bohassan's retirement party because he took care of their kids the best he could when they had AIDS and they were bleeding, right?
	They all fucking died.
	And this, so the drug companies don't care about you.
	The government doesn't care about you.
	The bureaucratic tape is all about cover-up.
	There's more details on the story.
	You can watch documentaries about it.
	You can read the Wikipedia pages.
	The Wikipedia information on this topic is accurate.
	And they covered it up.
	There's email exchanges.
	There's documents of meetings where they're like, hey, we don't want Congress to know about this.
	We're going to just stop selling it quietly.
	Eventually they got sued.
	Killed 100%.
	Well, no, they got sued.
	They got sued.
	They got sued, but they only had to pay every plaintiff 100 grand.
	So it was like nothing compared to how much money they made.
	And so it was a mass murder.
	And they didn't mean to, but when they knew it was happening, they didn't stop it either.
	You know what I mean?
	Because so like this, these are the Fauci's.
	These are the Modernas, the Pfizers, the Baxters.
	These are the drugs.
	These are the same drug companies that run commercials about ESG and diversity, equity, and inclusion.
	If you think for a minute they give a fuck, they do not at all.
	And so I don't know about the origins of HIV.
	I haven't dived into those conspiracy theories.
	You call it gay cancer here.
	Right, right.
	Right.
	But I do know that they really let it rip in this for a much longer time than they had to.
	Absolutely.
	Everyone should read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr.
	It lays out that story.
	It lays out the entire 40-year crime spree of Anthony Fauci.
	And in a lot of ways, it's very blackpilling because you realize just how long it's been going on, just how many times they've gotten away with this exact thing.
	I mean, that's not the only instance of exactly the same situation.
	They find out a pharmaceutical product has some horrific side effect and they just start selling it to India and they just, you know, paralyze or murder tens of thousands of people.
	But they, you know, they sell it at a lower cost and just sell it to India.
	It's time and time again.
	And so you realize not only has this been going on for so long, Dr. Fauci's been at the top of it for so long and they've gotten away with it every single time.
	And it requires every layer, every level of the power structure to cooperate from the pharmaceutical companies to the oversight board to the politicians that are granting the money to the universities that are running the tests for the pharmaceutical companies.
	It becomes such a tangled web and becomes such a morass and such a cesspit that in a way you just go, okay, there's no reforming this.
	There's no fire Anthony Fauci and everything's good.
	We need a coling, a conflagration, a burning of it all because it is so corrupt down to the very bones.
	And just look at look at health just with your own eye.
	You don't even need stats.
	Look at human health in America over the last 40 years.
	Anthony Fauci has been at the head of American medicine for those.
	Even the food pyramid is just a fucking lie.
	It's, hey, it's better than, it's better than bugs and fake meat, right?
	We're going to long for the day where they were just telling us to eat a lot of carbs and avoid meat.
	It's getting worse than ever.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Shout out to all the all the boys in the chat.
	I haven't even been looking.
	I can't do chat and an interview at the same time.
	I'm like a locomotive.
	I see Timothy.
	I saw Max early on.
	Mr. Boston chiming in a lot.
	Oh, fuck him.
	Hey, guys.
	Brett dropped a juicy super chat.
	Oh, good.
	He's the only one, though.
	It's lonely.
	It's lonely up there, boys.
	Let's get them.
	Let's get them super chats in.
	Yeah, ASF Bear.
	That's right.
	I'll answer any question in a super chat.
	And it goes all towards Chase.
	Let's make Chase some money.
	He's too humble to ask for money himself.
	I don't want your money.
	I just want you.
	I just want your subscription and your follow to the channel.
	Janitor 73.
	I love you too.
	Yeah, dude.
	No, it's you're right.
	I mean, God, thank God you were born when you were.
	Yeah.
	It is horrifying, man.
	It's absolutely horrifying what they've been able to get away with.
	And, you know, it's not even, it's like, I don't, I don't even want, you know, thank God that we have medical advancements.
	Thank God that you, as a hemophiliac, can live a fairly normal life and aren't dead at 15 from playing basketball.
	You know, like I don't, I'm not a Luddite.
	I don't want to abandon all of the advances that we've made, but the false dichotomy, the false perception that's, that's portrayed is that if you accept modern medicine and modern technology and modern advancements, you must therefore accept everything else in modernity.
	It's not the case.
	There's no reason why to have modern medicine that helps hemophiliac survive, you also have to poison a hundred thousand Indian children.
	Like these things are not necessary.
	They're not mutually inclusive, right?
	You can have one without the other.
	And I would love to be able to go take my son to the doctor and get him vaccines for viruses that he, you know, is at risk for.
	I would love to be able to trust our establishment like that.
	It's the fact that they're so criminal that they so routinely cover up the damages, cover up the deaths that I can't trust any of it anymore.
	I mean, you do as much research as possible.
	So like, you know, my son's not vaccinated.
	I wish, I wish I could trust the vaccines.
	I wish there were like four or five vaccines that he really needed that I could trust.
	Did you get vaccinated up?
	Yeah, I did, but it was completely different than it is to me.
	Right.
	Different schedule.
	Completely different.
	It was nothing compared to what it is today.
	And, you know, who knows?
	You know, it was around our age group that like autism started to become really prevalent.
	And, you know, I think that has a lot to do with.
	And another thing you need to understand about the childhood vaccine schedule, and one of the reasons why they were so desperate and why they did eventually put the vaccine on the childhood schedule, which by the way, they had to completely get a whole new board to do this.
	I don't know if you know this, but when they wanted to put the vaccine on the childhood schedule, I think this was it.
	It was either when they wanted to put it on the schedule or when they wanted to just license it for children, the FDA voted no and they just got rid of everybody and everybody like had to resign from that board.
	They got a new board and then passed it.
	That happened like last year.
	Like it was, that was super recent.
	But the reason why is because the U.S. government has total immunity for the vaccine makers if it's on the schedule.
	There's no liability if it's on the schedule.
	No liability if it's on the schedule.
	So they lobby super hard to get it on the schedule and then they have complete immunity from any of the side effects.
	So it's so the reason they insisted that your kid take it was because they actually wanted to avoid any liability down the road.
	100%.
	Whoa, I didn't realize that.
	That's the of what it should be.
	Yeah.
	I thought that they were guaranteed immunity before they were on the schedule as like a special dispensation.
	This is what I thought.
	I don't have any source or anything like that.
	The COVID vaccine was.
	Yes.
	And that was part of that was part of it.
	Am I back?
	Sorry, I dropped for a little there.
	Yeah, you're here.
	Okay.
	So the COVID vaccine does have special immunity.
	Some can have special immunity.
	And that was actually revealed in, well, in a lot of different ways, but we had a guy on named Eden, Eden Bieber, Eden Biber.
	His name's Eden Biber, not Bieber, because I always pronounced it Bieber, and he would always like, correct me.
	You got Biber Fiber and Bieber Fever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He found, he found, like, he searched all of these different countries, like open documents.
	And some of the less developed countries had left their Pfizer agreements in places where they could be found in the public internet.
	And so he found agreements with like Argentina or like Romania or something that were the same agreements that Pfizer signed with other countries, but were secret.
	He found them in places like, like, I think it was Romania or Slovakia or something.
	And, you know, that was part of the agreement.
	Pfizer said, we will not give you any vaccines unless you give us liability to the extent that in order to pay the liability, the countries put up military assets as collateral.
	So, like in Brazil, if there's a giant lawsuit and people sue Pfizer for billions of dollars, the Brazil government is on the hook for that.
	And they're obligated by contract to sell like their military bases and canals that they control in order to pay for it.
	So, for the COVID vaccine, they absolutely had and have immunity prior to it going on the childhood vaccine.
	But the childhood vaccine immunity is across the board and it's an extra level.
	And it was voted on a long time ago to give them that.
	And there is still a there's actually a government-run taxpayer-funded vaccine injury court that is run by the vice president.
	And every year they have to put out a report showing how many injuries have been reported from the vaccines and what American taxpayers have paid out for it.
	Is it separate from VARES?
	I think it relies on VARES.
	It's a little different.
	It kind of gets mixed up because it's funny because, like, you know, all the anti-vax people, COVID was like their game time, you know, because like for 10 years or 20 years, you're telling people about the problems with vaccines.
	And then all of a sudden, like, the big one comes and you're like, I got this.
	So, um, I would check out, oh my God, I'm blanking on the name.
	And I, I'm, I keep wanting to say Dale Wiggington.
	He's the, he's like the chemtrail guy.
	Um, I'm so ashamed.
	Someone in the chat knows who the we we literally steal his um his graphics for American Journal.
	Can't believe I'm blanking on this name.
	High wire, High Wire.
	Uh, High Wire.
	So, Max wants to know what woke us up.
	Del Bigtree.
	Del Bigtree is the guy's name, Del Bigtree.
	Okay.
	Uh, okay, I'll tell you what woke me up.
	What woke me up?
	Yeah, Del Bigtree.
	Thank you, Timothy.
	Um, what woke me up was 9-11 for sure and the Iraq war.
	Uh, because I was in middle school when it happened, I was in sixth grade when 9-11 happened.
	And my best friend, who's one of my very good friends to this day, named John, who I reference all the time, and he calls in.
	Closer friends than us, or we didn't go to middle school together.
	I'm sorry, we didn't go to middle school together.
	John and I have a have a connection that's uh pretty unpretty unparalleled.
	But uh, but it's funny, if you ever, here's a little, here's a little tip just for the uh one American podcast viewers.
	If you ever hear me go to someone named John from Texas or John from Houston, I pretend like I don't know who he is.
	That's that's my boy John calling in.
	And uh, he's he's a show me smart and he's Lebanese and he speaks Arabic.
	And so, we would watch these little CNN reports in the morning in homeroom during uh middle school, and he'd be sitting there going, That's not what they're saying, that's not what they're saying at all.
	See the way, see the way Osama bin Laden is uh wearing a gold, uh, gold like chain, you're not allowed to wear gold as a as a Muslim.
	Like in like sixth and seventh grade, he was like just blowing up all the narratives for me because he, his family was Lebanese, like his parents grew up and you know, became adults in Lebanon before coming to America.
	John was born in America, but his parents weren't.
	So, they had really, really tight connections over there, still watched and read the news from over there.
	So, you know, we would just be sitting there in homeroom and he'd just be going, that's not real, that's fake, that's not what's actually happening.
	And so, I learned to stop question, stop believing things like that back then.
	And then, definitely seeing Alex Jones lose change.
	You know, 9-11 was an inside job.
	And I'm from Texas and I grew up on the internet.
	So, definitely Alex Jones in middle school.
	Well, I think for a lot of people, one big lie is enough for a wake up, right?
	Whether it's 9-11, whether it's JFK, whether it's any black flag operation, one big lie that becomes really obvious is enough for them to wake up to the extent that they don't trust government.
	But for me, my big wake up was just reading The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand when I was 17.
	That book absolutely changed my life.
	It wasn't like a revelation that I was being lied to so much as it was like a reinforcement of real principle.
	So, Ayn Rand's philosophy, I don't agree with 100% of it.
	I'm not an atheist, for example, like she was.
	But the ideas of capitalism and individualism and sourcing self-esteem from within and having all of your actions and beliefs be as close to logically harmonious as possible was really instilled in me.
	So then when I see this hypocrisy from these leaders, that is my signal on whether I support someone or not.
	And I would rather, for example, support like a Bernie Sanders who I disagree with because at least he's consistent with himself than someone who I agree with who's like constantly full of shit.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So like that, that for me is like a bigger deal than like a JFK or lab leak theory or, you know, fake Russian hoax thing.
	Like, of course, the CIA and the FBI lie and different power structures in our government are trying to overthrow each other constantly.
	But how do we like readjust this country or our culture really?
	So that as a value, we try to live a life that is coherent and consistent with like a morality.
	We used to have this whole melting pot diversity thing is bullshit, right?
	Because you can't have, Brett came over.
	You can't have a melting pot and diversity.
	You either assimilate or you don't.
	And I think our problem is we shifted away from melting pot to diversity.
	So now we have all these different cultures and values and ideals that are inconsistent with each other and inconsistent even internally with themselves, right?
	Because we don't assimilate anymore.
	And I would like to get us back to a place where we as a culture decide on one thing, one value, and we just live according to it.
	And if you look at the great civilizations throughout history, whether it's, you know, what the Catholic Church accomplished in Europe for hundreds of years during the medieval period, obviously it was a dark time and there were some problems, but there was consistency.
	Rome had a culture that was consistent.
	And the more expanded it was all.
	The more Rome expanded and became inconsistent, then the more issues that they had and they fell apart.
	Greece had a culture.
	The strongest nations and civilizations seem to have one culture.
	So I think that this diversity thing is bullshit.
	Like it's important to include anyone who wants to be included.
	But if you're going to be included in the game that we play as a society, then you have to play by the same rules.
	Otherwise, we're not playing the game.
	We're just fucking around.
	Here's how I explain it.
	We want harmony, not discord, right?
	Diversity for diversity's sake is cacophony.
	It's a bunch of random instruments playing their own music at the same time and it's not beautiful.
	It doesn't matter how beautiful each independent instrument is.
	If they're all just playing their own tune at their own speed, it's just like, oh, God, it's just like overwhelming.
	It's disgusting.
	It's not helpful for anybody.
	But at the same time, you don't want 900 trumpets all doing the same noise at the same time.
	That's also not beautiful.
	That's also not music, right?
	So you want different instruments singing, doing different things, but they all need to be on the same tune.
	They all need to be on the same beat.
	They all need to, I don't understand music, so I don't know the words to use, but they all need to be tuned to the same frequency and the same beat.
	And they need to take each other into account.
	That's what makes beautiful music.
	We need harmony, not diversity, harmony, not discordance.
	Right.
	And that's what bothers me so much about like this, this accusation of cultural appropriation.
	Like, I don't like rap music, but I think it's really cool that a lot of white people are able to enjoy it and go and participate in it.
	Like, that's cool.
	I remember thinking it was so weird in junior high.
	Like, I would go to the dances and I'm a classic rap guy.
	So I'd be like, oh, this music sucks.
	But all the white kids that went to the school with me loved it.
	And like, that's not cultural appropriation.
	That is a melting pot.
	That is like one culture kind of coming together.
	And like, if you're going to come to America, don't come to America to make it more like where you came from.
	Come to America to be more like an American.
	Or if you're going to move to Texas from California, don't try to make Texas more like California.
	Try to be more like a Texan.
	You know, just move somewhere you want to live.
	And yeah, this is this is the problem with cowardice.
	This is the problem with people just being pussies, to be honest with you.
	Like when I, you would never do to other countries what those country citizens do to us.
	I love, I love Japan.
	Good Lord, I love Japan.
	I mean, I spent two weeks.
	Oh, yeah.
	I got all sorts of swords.
	It was like the best two weeks of my entire life going to Japan for these two weeks.
	I loved it.
	It was beautiful.
	They don't want to let me live there.
	You know, like I don't even know how to apply, but I'm sure if I tried to immigrate to Japan, they would say no.
	And I totally respect that.
	Of course I respect that.
	What?
	I want to ruin this beautiful thing that I love by injecting myself into it.
	I would never go there and try to change it.
	It is not mean or bad to demand that same respect from other people.
	I feel the same way about Mexico.
	I love Mexico.
	I love visiting Mexico.
	I think it's a beautiful place.
	They got a lot of problems, obviously.
	But, you know, I would never demand that they let me in and then demand that they change for me.
	I wouldn't, I wouldn't disrespect them like that.
	And I'm not going to stand for someone disrespecting my country like that.
	Treat others as you would like to be treated and stand up for yourself when you don't get the same courtesy in return.
	I mean, that's that's really how it works.
	And it doesn't work.
	Like, look at the instances throughout the last hundred years of the United States attempting to engage in nation building.
	Half the time it's failed and half the time it's succeeded.
	So what's the difference?
	So we annihilated Germany after World War II.
	They're back, right?
	Similar culture, similar values.
	We didn't try to restructure them.
	They already had something in place and we just took the Nazi part out, you know, as best we could.
	They're back.
	Japan after World War II, like you said, they're back.
	They're extraordinary.
	But when we go into places like Iraq or Afghanistan and they were unstable to begin with, and then we just destabilize them even more and then try to force a culture that's totally foreign and indifferent to them upon them.
	It just doesn't work.
	Like you cannot force people into something that's just totally foreign to them involuntarily.
	Assimilation requires consent.
	And there's a reason that we basically force people to assimilate in the test to become a citizen here.
	I mean, you have to know all the amendments.
	You have to know the presidents.
	You have to understand the values of our nation before you can become a citizen legally in the state.
	And the reason those rules are in place is because whoever set them in place understood the value of assimilation.
	You know, going back to your comment about rap, I have a friend who like grew up just like always rapping.
	He grew up in Beaumont, Texas.
	And he just like, he was just like a little white rapper.
	And that was just like his things, what he always did.
	And he got this girlfriend in college that told him, like, you shouldn't rap, like you're culturally appropriating, right?
	But if you know anything about rap, it is a cultural mix.
	It's cultural melting pot.
	I mean, it goes back to jazz.
	Jazz is sort of a better example, right?
	Jazz is West African beats played on orchestral Western instruments.
	So without those orchestral Western instruments, without those West Africans being brought into America and having access to orchestral symphonic instruments, you would never have jazz.
	People go, well, jazz is a black art.
	Okay, but it's only being able to play it on white.
	Even the banjo.
	The banjo is an African instrument, but it's associated with bluegrass.
	It's associated with sort of redneck country music.
	And that's a beautiful thing.
	Yeah.
	So you can't have exclusionary things.
	Like you can't say jazz is black and rap is black.
	Right.
	Rap wouldn't exist without the turntable beatbox culture of like Brooklyn or the Bronx in the 1980s, where they were tapping off of light poles to get electricity to power their turntables, where they were scratching classic rock records and making beats out of them.
	That is an amalgamation.
	It was white people that built the thing and run the electricity.
	It was black people that turned it into something else.
	It was Jewish marketers that turned out, you know, figured out it could be profitable and made it popular.
	Like that's the beauty of true diversity, of natural diversity.
	You know, I grew up in Houston, where there is truly natural diversity.
	It's probably the most diverse city in the country, but you never felt it as a, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, for sure.
	Oh, the number, I mean, of all types, right?
	Like just huge black population, massive Hispanic population.
	Like, I think it's like a third, a third, a third between those and that massive mix of Asian.
	I mean, like small Vietnam, like we got street signs in Chinese over there, like the most diverse place you can possibly imagine.
	It wasn't until I went to the Northeast and lived in DC for a little while that I felt racism, that I felt the differences of races.
	Like I remember this one time very, very particularly going into a smoothie shop, walk in, black dude behind the counter.
	He like kind of looks at me like, Dunn, give me, you know, and I'm just like, all right, looks like this dude's in a bad mood, but I'm just like jolly and I'm a cheerful self.
	Hey, man, how you doing?
	You're like, I'll have the watermelon.
	And he looks at you like, I'm like, listen to me, boy.
	No, um, I go, I'm like, I'm like, hey, man, how you doing?
	Can I get a strawberry in a smoothie large?
	Like, thanks, man.
	All right.
	Thank you very much.
	And he's just like, you know, just like takes the money, just like, give me the look or whatever.
	I'm like, all right, dude's in a bad mood.
	Not my deal.
	You know, that's fine.
	Then a black dude walks in and he's like, how you doing, sir?
	How can I help you today?
	Welcome to Robux.
	I'm glad you came in.
	And I'm like, and for a second, I'm like, are they friends?
	Maybe he knows this guy.
	And then I'm like, no, he doesn't know him.
	It's because he's black.
	Okay.
	This is what it's like to have racial tension.
	This is what it's like to have like some sort of strife between you.
	I'd never experienced that.
	I had never experienced that in my life.
	And it was even like refreshing going back to Houston and walking into a restaurant on West Timer.
	And it's like the black dude sitting with the Chinese girl.
	There's a Mexican and white guys hanging out over here.
	And it's just like nobody cares.
	Everybody's just trying to make money.
	Everybody's just trying to hustle.
	Everybody's just like nice to each other.
	I used to, I had a really good friend.
	I took a gap year after high school and actually never went to college.
	So I took a gap year forever.
	But for a while, you know, I was living in Houston.
	One of my friends was going to U of H, which is right near Third Ward, which is the most ghetto part of Houston, which is a ghetto city in the first place.
	And I would go and like hang out in my friend's house in Third Ward.
	You know, obviously we would just like have parties out front, hang out on the front porch, like, you know, kids, as you're driving through in like my mom's minivan and like little black kids would run up and like try to sell you weed through the window.
	Like it was, it was a very ghetto place.
	But like I was, it was never unsafe.
	Nobody ever like, got mad.
	Like every once in a while, I'd have somebody be like, oh, we don't see a lot of white boys walking through this neighborhood.
	But like I would, there were like multiple times where I would show up in my friend's house.
	He wouldn't be there.
	And I'll just go for a walk around the neighborhood.
	Just like, say what's up to the people.
	Like it was never like, I'm in danger.
	Oh, no, I'm in the black neighborhood.
	Like that wasn't the spirit of Houston.
	So like I have an appreciation and I legitimately have a much, much, much, much healthier view of diversity, of race, because I was after elementary school, I was never a majority in my school.
	I never went to an all-white school.
	Every school I went to, whites were the biggest minority.
	Like there were more blacks and Mexicans in my high school, in both my high schools and my junior high that I went to.
	And you understand, like, okay, they have a different culture.
	It's, it's, a lot of things are different for them in a lot of ways.
	And you have respect for that and you understand it.
	You also aren't scared of it.
	You also don't treat black people like this thing over there that I hear about on the news, right?
	I remember in high school, hearing this conversation, I was sitting with my friend Brian, black guy and this other kid who was black.
	And Brian was telling this other kid, I sort of like came and sat down and they were already in this conversation where the dude's like, you can't join.
	My friend Brian's like, you can't join.
	You can't join up.
	He's talking about joining up a gang.
	And the other black kid's like, dude, my brother is, my cousin is.
	He's like, they run my block, dude.
	Like, I'm not about to get my ass kicked every day when I go home from school.
	Like, I got to join.
	And like, you know, to me, you know, when you actually live in a diverse culture that's not at each other's throats, you know, that gave me a lot of insight into like, oh, shit, I don't have, I didn't experience that.
	I don't have to worry about getting my ass kicked by the cribs every time I come home.
	So I can have respect for that.
	I can understand that.
	I can have empathy for that.
	I also can try to come up with ways that that boy and no other boy is ever in positions like that ever again.
	That doesn't mean you accept it.
	That doesn't mean you go, that's just black culture and you have to, you know, it's good there.
	It's like that.
	That's not good that's like that.
	That's, that's horrific.
	That's a horrible thing for a kid in high school.
	And I don't even necessarily, I don't even necessarily think it's a black culture thing.
	I think it's just the nature of poverty.
	Like anywhere you go in the world that there's an increase in poverty, there's usually an increase in violent crime, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I guess there's different forms of it and there's different cultures among different socioeconomic people and communities or whatever in the United States.
	But like, I think a lot of times we we always jump to systemic racism as the issue because we see these disparities among races in the United States, whether it's income disparities or education disparities or whatever.
	But I don't think it's actually because of race.
	I think it's because of socioeconomic status.
	Like if you grow up in a poor community, I think you're more likely to make decisions that have different outcomes, worse outcomes than if you grow up in an advantageous community.
	Of course, Hunter Biden's the exception.
	But I don't know.
	Like I just, I don't see it as like a black thing.
	I see it as like a poor versus getting like not poor thing.
	Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, I think it's both.
	And, you know, it's not, it's not to say that, you know, the problem is that people go, they go, if you point out that black people have higher rates of crime, they assume, they make the assumption or they project onto you that you think that that is a biological imperative that is a part of their biological makeup and you don't have that because you're superior.
	And nobody, nobody's saying that.
	It's a very complicated issue, but you can look at, you know, I just always point to the fact that slaves are freed in the 1860s.
	By the 1960s, blacks are exceeding whites in almost every metric that matters.
	Whether you're staying married longer, income, staying married longer.
	Yeah, families that are together, the number of kids they're having, educational attainment.
	That is an astonishing achievement.
	In 100 years to go from less than zero, because that's the other thing is they go, they go, you have to acknowledge the historical effects of slavery.
	Well, those had been not, those had been blown out of the water in 100 years.
	That's an amazing achievement for the black community.
	It was only at that.
	So you've got in 100 years, they go from less than zero, less than nothing.
	Nothing would be they show up on a ship like the Italians did.
	These people weren't allowed to read.
	They weren't allowed to have families.
	They would sell your children out from under you.
	That's less than zero.
	That's, that's in, it's being kept and held down in the dirt.
	So they go from that to parity in 100 years, in 100 years, in 10 decades, in two generations more or less, right?
	Like two, two people growing to be middle-aged adults.
	That's astonishing.
	That's incredible.
	And it's only at that point that they look around, you know, the black community looks around and goes, hey, we've proved ourselves.
	We don't deserve to be treated like second-class citizens anymore.
	It's been 100 years.
	We've proved ourselves.
	It's time to drop all the Jim Crow crap.
	And government went, yeah, yeah, sure.
	Yeah, we'll do that.
	We'll then we'll help you along the way too.
	Yeah, we'll give you some welfare to help your journey along.
	And that's where it starts going downhill.
	So you can understand and take account for the historical disparities amongst the races without acting like those disparities still exist in the world today and the crime rate is because of slavery.
	Well, it wasn't in the 1960s.
	How is it that way now?
	Yeah.
	Well, and I think the other thing to consider too is that a lot of the changes that we've seen the last 50 years among minority communities in terms of crime rates, all the metrics that we consider when we talk about racism or systemic racism, they're directly correlated with inflation.
	So we hop off the gold standard in 1971 and we have hyperinflation in the 70s and hyperinflation disproportionately impacts people who are middle class or lower middle class, right?
	So if you're a family of four and you're providing for your family as a man and all of a sudden everything is 10 or 20 percent more expensive, but your income doesn't change, then they're that changed that that puts financial pressure on the family that causes divorces that causes people to want to turn to crime in order to make ends meet or do stuff under the table so they don't have to pay the taxes or whatever.
	And I honestly think that the number one source, the immovable mover or the primary mover of all of the racial tension in the United States today is the inflation that's been occurring since the 1970s.
	And the irony is the more programs that the government creates in order to try to combat this issue, the more it has to spend.
	And the more it has to spend, the more it has to print.
	And the more it prints, the worse inflation gets.
	So everything they do to try to solve the problem actually makes the problem worse.
	And things would be better if they just stopped fucking around with it.
	Everything they do makes the problem worse.
	All of these equity things is going to make it harder for capable blacks to get good jobs.
	Sending, you know, Thomas Thomas Soule has, you know, lays this out perfectly when he talks about introduction to colleges, where he goes, you take a black kid that is perfectly, he would be a perfect fit for a state school.
	He would he would be an all-A student.
	He would be summa cum laude or whatever.
	He would he would thrive at a state school.
	You take him out of that.
	You put him in Harvard where he's not qualified for it.
	Only because he's black, because you boost him up.
	Now he's not as smart as his other classmates and he doesn't feel like he belongs.
	And so what do you do?
	You either let him fail out.
	Now he's got the tuition that he's got to pay for.
	He's got the debt that he already took on, but he's got no degree.
	No, you know, he doesn't have a state diploma or a Harvard diploma.
	And he feels like a failure.
	And it's not good for anybody.
	So all of these equity programs where they're putting black kids in programs they don't qualify for, you either are setting them up to fail or you have to change the requirements and you have to lower the standards so you don't have the, oh, oh, no, look, because then what happens?
	Then you put a bunch of black kids that don't actually qualify for the school.
	And of course, you know, you have to always cover your ass.
	If you qualify for Harvard as a black kid, then you should go to Harvard, obviously, right?
	Of course, of course.
	If you don't need a leg up, we're not saying because you're black, you're not qualified.
	Right.
	Yeah, but you have to, you have to make these Things.
	So, so yeah, it's it's a it's a degradation of everything.
	Or even like black businesses, talk to a small business owner.
	A lot of small, if they're honest with you, they'll say, I don't like doing business with black businesses because those black businesses have gotten gifts from the government and they probably wouldn't have succeeded without the benefits of the government.
	I want to work with a company that actually earned what they got.
	It's just not good for anybody to do, you know, feed, give a man to fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish.
	Like, we need people who can fish for themselves.
	We need people who can build things up for themselves and are being the best they can be without some supposedly beneficial handout from the government that actually poisons the well and makes everything, you know, that much more difficult to everybody.
	I do want to say, have you ever seen the website What the fuck happened in 1971?
	Yes.
	Okay, good.
	I just wanted you to make sure.
	Have you ever seen the website Joe Biden's emails?
	Joe Biden's emails?
	Yeah, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Oh, shit, Hunter Biden, actually.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to pull it up.
	The audience.
	Wait, I think someone's talking shit to me.
	Who's Jacqueline?
	Oh, is that Jacqueline?
	Jacqueline.
	Yeah, it's the Jacqueline.
	She says, going back to Houston, I went to Aldean Westfield High School right around Greenspoint, Guns Point.
	I'm sure, yes, yes.
	I absolutely know Greens Point.
	I didn't hang out much in Greenspoint.
	I'm an inner city.
	I'm an inner loop boy.
	I actually grew up in the inner loop, not the Parkway, not Beltway 8.
	Inner loop, baby.
	I'm 6'10.
	My wife's not.
	She was outside the loop.
	She was a Houstonian.
	I was inner loop, baby.
	I gotta find this.
	I had this website pulled up earlier today and I can't find it.
	Oh, here we go.
	Here we go.
	All right, I only got about 10 minutes left on here.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	I know it.
	I'm just fun.
	Who else is going to ask us questions?
	Is Biden a clone?
	You know?
	What a poor decision.
	I think so.
	Do you see the video of the mask technology in the 60s?
	Have you seen that?
	Uh-uh.
	It's a video made, I think it was the 60s, maybe it was the 80s, but it's like a CIA woman.
	She was like, Yeah, I did masks for the CIA, and they actually have video of these people putting on these masks.
	They look exactly like a real person, exactly like, you know, George Bush or whoever.
	And they actually have these things where they go into like the Oval Office and the woman is talking to like President Reagan.
	I guess it must have been the 80s, but or the 70s.
	It was a long, long time ago.
	They had this mask technology where you could sit there and have a face-to-face conversation two feet away from the person and never realize it's a mask until they took it off.
	Like that technology is absolutely real.
	And there's no reason why you exist.
	You'd exist.
	So before we end this, I wanted to make sure to share with the viewers and you, Harrison, there's this website, BidenlaptopEmails.com.
	And it's like WikiLeaks of Biden's 128,000 emails.
	So you can type in any keyword and find all the emails.
	So like I did Metabiota, for example, right?
	I talked about it on your show.
	I don't want to view all 100.
	I want to do the Metabiota only.
	Yeah, there we go.
	All the emails.
	Max has a question for you, Chase.
	Uh-oh.
	I'll tell you exactly why I'm a Freemason.
	I decided to become a Freemason because I was impressed with the founding fathers, particularly Benjamin Franklin.
	And I read his autobiography when I was in college.
	And out of a sense of patriotism, I thought I would have a better understanding and closeness with just Americanism if I had that experience.
	And it really did help me understand some of the principles and philosophies behind the Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, things of that nature, because all that stuff is in Freemasonry.
	So that's why I decided to become a Freemason.
	And I'm glad that I did.
	It was a really good experience.
	This is the propaganda Chase has been presenting.
	I was asked.
	I was asked the question.
	I don't just say the satanic indoctrination he's trying to put me under.
	No, they're very fascinating.
	It's an interesting thing.
	I mean, that's one of the things is like, you can rail against the Freemasons.
	I'm sort of torn because you can rail against the Freemasons and you can point to secret societies doing, you know, kind of messed up stuff.
	But then like, yeah, George Washington, like all the founding fathers were Freemasons.
	So like, how do you reconcile that?
	Texas, Freemasonry was a huge part of the founding of Texas.
	Like that, let's look at the plaque outside of the Alamo.
	All those guys were Masons.
	Sure, no, not only were they Masons, like Santa Ana's crackdowns that led to a wide, wider Mexican revolt of which the Texas Revolution was just a part, it was explicitly like he passed ordinances to destroy the Masons because the Masons were becoming too influential, and Catholics basically hate Masons.
	So, like at the same time, you know, my grandparents, my mother's parents, who were uh Catholic, despised the Freemasons, like, couldn't stand the free thought, they were just like completely well.
	And Freemasonry was really in large born out of the Reformation.
	It was in part an organization that was not anti-Christian by any means, but very anti-Catholic.
	Because at the time, the Catholic Church was very tyrannical, and so it was like a freedom of thought, freedom of speech.
	Like, you could go to the lodge and you could actually share ideas about philosophy that the church might say was heresy, right?
	If you, if you, if you discussed that you didn't think the pope was infallible, that was heresy, but you could do that in a lodge.
	And the same with the revolution.
	I think part of the reason that America is so influenced by Freemasonry is because the lodge was one of the only places where you could go and talk shit about King George without getting tarred and feathered because your brothers won't do that to you, you know?
	Yeah, and look, you know, when the founding fathers created America, like what they were doing was really unprecedented.
	And they sort of saw, I believe, they sort of saw Freemasonry as a sort of a control mechanism for like just guaranteeing things didn't just fly off the rails right away, right?
	They sort of had this society where they went, okay, we know who is they just knew people.
	I mean, it was a club, it was different than it than it is now, certainly.
	It was very different, you know, back then.
	To me, one of the most fascinating things is how you all worship Satan.
	I think that's kidding.
	I think one of the most fascinating things is the fact that what it came out of was state-guaranteed monopolies in England in the medieval times.
	So you, so the queen or the king, whoever it happened to be, would grant monopolies for entire industries.
	So the masons were those who had been granted a monopoly on the masonry business by the queen of England.
	And you would have the masons and the coopers and the beer makers and the shoemakers.
	And so you didn't just have the masons, you had all of these different ones, the masons.
	And so masonry grew out of that, but it started with in the medieval times, state-sanctioned monopolies on industry.
	Yeah.
	And there's even more to it than that because most guilds, you're right on the money, but most guilds back in those days were hyper-local.
	So if you were a blacksmith, you were a blacksmith and wherever you were a blacksmith, like wherever you grew up, whole your whole life.
	But with masonry, there's not a major construction project going on in your hometown your whole life.
	So masonry was one of the few professions where you actually had to travel.
	That's why there's an expression, like, are you a traveling man?
	You had to travel in order to do work.
	And that's why there was secrecy and passwords and handshakes put into place because the different degrees of masonry were like the different degrees of our education where you like have an associate's or you have a bachelor's or a master's, right?
	And so when you would go to a job site in a new location and there were other masons there and you needed to work, and if you claimed that you were a second degree or a fellow craft mason because you wanted those wages, you had to be able to prove it with the right word or right handshake.
	That was like your proof that if you knew that secret, it meant that you actually had that initiation and that training at that level of masonry.
	So I'm going to give this person a fellow crafts work because they understand how to do this tougher job than the entered apprentice, who basically can only move like bricks around.
	And the master mason, of course, can do the more sophisticated work.
	And that was sort of where the secrets came from.
	And then over time, the Masons somehow sort of became wealthy and it became more like a fraternity and a philosophy club and a brotherhood than an actual working guild.
	And so they retained all the handshakes and passwords as tradition, but everything rather than taking on a literal meaning of how do we build this fucking building, it took on like a philosophy, a philosophical man.
	So like, for example, there's like a metaphor in Freemasonry of the rough ashlar.
	So that's like a big block that's basically taken straight from the quarry and it's all like rough and natural and I know what an ashlar is.
	Right.
	And, you know, the metaphor in masonry is that you have to look at yourself like a rough ashlar and you have to hammer away your imperfections so that you become a perfect ashlar.
	So you can be like a better person.
	Right.
	And so originally they would actually teach you how to make a perfect cube out of a big brick of limestone or whatever.
	And later on, it became like this symbol of how to build your character, right?
	These are the kind of things that masonry teaches.
	It's not like worshiping Satan or anything.
	It's really just sort of like a philosophy based off of symbolism.
	Yeah, I feel like we could go on about this.
	I would be more interested in masonry if they actually taught me how to make a badass cube of limestone.
	That sounds cool.
	That sounds cool to me.
	I'm already a well, well defined ashlar.
	Thank you very much.
	But I would like to find out how to perfectly square job.
	Hammer and chisel.
	Yeah.
	No, well, it's been an honor and a pleasure to have you, dude.
	I know that you got to get going.
	You like to go to bed early because you have to be on the show in the morning.
	Yeah, I do.
	I do.
	I'm an old man these days.
	But, dude, thank you for having me on.
	We totally did not do what we set out to do, which was a deep dive on the COVID.
	Maxie had a family issue, by the way.
	He texted me, said he was sorry.
	Oh, shoot.
	Oh, well, I hope everything's all right for him.
	This has been really fun, dude.
	Let's do it again soon.
	And, you know, God willing, with his blessing, then I will soon be having a baby and on paternity leave.
	And you'll be taking over.
	And I look forward to it.
	Yeah, man.
	Thank you so much.
	I appreciate you.
	Yeah.
	Hopefully, thanks.
	Thanks to everybody with the super chats and the questions and stuff, too.
	It was really fun having you guys.
	Yeah, thanks for showing up, everybody.
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