The Fate of The Country With Steve Bannon & Chase Geiser | One American Podcast
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
I started this podcast because it occurred to me that there's a concerted effort to shame America and what it means to be American.
When I ask myself, what can I do about this?
It's really hard because I'm not a political action committee.
I don't have a tremendous amount of followers.
I certainly didn't when I started.
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It's One American Podcast Live with Steve Bannon.
Mr. Bannon, it is an honor and a pleasure to have you with us.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Hey, you can just call me.
Steve, by the way, have the herrings ever tracked you down for using One America or One America?
Is it One America or One American?
Well, it's got an N on the end, so I'm hoping that's different enough.
They're low hand contact and you're very smart.
Hey, love this show.
Love the show.
I watch you guys on Getter.
So thanks for having me.
Absolutely.
So I know that we've got about 20 minutes today.
And I thought a lot yesterday about what I wanted to talk to you about.
And I thought, well, I could go over background stuff and 2016 campaign stuff.
And I was like, but people could just watch American Dharma if they want to get that.
And I was like, well, we could talk about the January 6th hearings.
Did you see American Dharma?
A couple times, yeah.
You're a film guy, right?
Not professionally.
I own an advertising business, so I do some video work, but that's a good thing.
But I mean, you discuss films on your show a lot, right?
Yeah, I certainly have.
I'm a big movie buff because I grew up in the Midwest and there's nothing else to do.
What's your three favorite films?
Number one, Cool Hand Luke.
Wow, I love that film.
Yeah, particularly just because of the boxing scene where he doesn't give up and he wins.
And to say two and three is difficult for me.
We were fortunate to have you don't like making choices.
I take it, you're non-committal.
You don't like to committing.
Well, I just, I've always thought about favorites because people, you know, like when you're dating, they ask what's your favorite.
And so I just think of the number one.
I never made a list of top five.
It's not like high fidelity or something.
That's probably up there.
What about you?
What are your three favorites?
Well, 12 o'clock, American Dharma, 12 o'clock high, paths of glory, 12 o'clock high, you know, the wild bunch, Lawrence of Arabia, things like that.
I was thinking like crazy rich Asians.
I like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, not.
Although I know a lot of crazy rich Asians have never seen that film.
That's awesome.
So I wanted to try to do something a little bit different and not focus on stuff about you that people can get elsewhere.
And so I want to start sort of like high-level philosophical.
So in your opinion, what does it mean to be an American?
Well, it means to be a citizen of this country, somebody that's dedicated to this country, right?
So he's got, what, we have 330 million people living in this country right now, American citizens, someone that supports and respects the traditions and the values of this country.
So it doesn't have to mean you have to agree politically.
I think one of the greatest things of our system, it's an advocacy system.
And it's always been, you know, our politics has been very intense over, you know, in our history.
And so you don't have to agree as Americans, you don't have to agree on everything.
In fact, I think it was Franklin that said during the Revolution, what made us different than the British Empire is that it kind of had we created a new breed here that was more risk-taking, more rough around the edges, not so much about etiquette, right?
But more raw-boned.
And I think that's what it means to be an American.
I still think it's what it means to be an American.
But it's a big, diverse country with a lot of big, diverse political views, religious views, all that.
And I think it's one of the, you know, I think it's one of the great strengths of the country that we managed to pull through all this with this kind of can-do spirit and this stick-to-itiveness to get things done.
Obviously, there's a different political philosophy that's out there today that's really about state control.
And, you know, it's got a progressive patina in front of it, but it's really about, you know, the administrative state and state control and state capitalism that is populist and nationalist that we fight.
We fight every day.
What would you say the difference between populism and nationalism is?
Well, I think they're actually very different because populism is about coming out from the grassroots things that are working towards working people, middle-class people, kind of anti-elite, anti-credentialization to have elites make decisions for you, to have these non-democratic institutions like the administrative state make decisions for you, where decisions really come up from the political aspirations of the people.
That's what populism is.
And populism is making sure that you hear the voice of the people, that people, you know, we've had a tremendous populist DNA in our country's history, all the way from the time of the founding and the revolution to Andrew Jackson, all the way through William Jennings Bryan.
It's really the little guy wanting to have a voice and not just be dictated to, right, by the political elites and the financial elites.
Nationalism is kind of different than that.
Nationalism is about country and nation, about the Westphalian system.
If you go back and look at President Trump's inaugural address, what they call the American carnage, that was really a, it's kind of juxtaposed that Xi, President Xi, had made a speech a few days before in Davos.
We talked about the new kind of really the world order that was coming, not simply the post-war international rules-based order, but this kind of network effect where China was going to be the centerpiece of all of it.
And the guys in Davos loved it.
Trump, two days later, I think made one of the best speeches about nationalism ever made.
And he talked about really implied the Westphalian system, that the nation state is that unit that allows people to have the best shot to thrive and to prosper.
And that nations have, you know, they're not some idea like Paul Ryan and the Republicans who say America is an idea.
America is actually a country with a border, with a people, with a culture, with an economy.
And so I think populist nationalism is the little guy, right, or people that heretofore voices have not been heard, but are the backbone of the country that really provide the substrate of civic order.
Those people coming together and saying, hey, we want our voice to be heard.
We want to be at the table.
And we want to put our country first.
We want to put our nation first.
We're not as interested in these multilateral organizations.
We want to be a partner.
We want to be in trade deals.
We want that, but we want it from a perspective of the nation state that is the United States of America.
And it's not an idea.
It's actually a country.
And it's got a border, particularly a southern border that has to be defended.
And, you know, since I've started really pushing this, you know, right around the Tea Party time, around Tea Party in 2009 and 10, when I made my first or made my second film, Generation Zero, a lot of people at the time in kind of conservative ink who I got to know through Andrew were very down on it.
You can't say populism.
Populism is a left-wing thing.
You can't say populism.
William Jennings Barr is popular and certainly couldn't say nationalism.
I had some very prominent people in media who I really respect and I think are very smart would come to me and say, oh, you can't say nationalism.
You can't say nationalism.
You still hear that a lot today, but I think that we have blown through that and that the Trump movement, MAGA, is a populist nationalist movement.
And that's why President Trump, I think, won in 2016.
He won again in 2020.
He's about to do the three-peat in 2024.
Yeah.
So I consider myself a devoted populist, but it was a little bit of a leap for me just because I come from a background of being really inspired in high school reading Ayn Rand.
I think I read almost everything she ever wrote, except for I haven't read.
And well, I was inspired by the empowerment of the individual in her books, not so much like the, you know, I believe in God.
And so I wasn't on board with her with the atheism aspects, but the individual rights and the individual sovereignty, I thought that was really inspiring, especially as a coming-of-age person.
And so it was a little bit of a leap for me to like embrace populism because it was sort of against the grain, like, I don't give a damn about the people.
Like, I'm trying to become the best version of myself, right?
But really, like, if you want to be the best version of yourself, you should want that for others too.
And I think it sort of adds up in that, like, if we become the best Americans that we can be, then we create the best America that we can have, right?
And so I really think they're really interlinked.
I think self-actualization and populism can be something symbiotic.
Well, it can.
It can be.
Listen, it's not about you're not still trying to, everybody's got to go through this journey through this veil of tears.
You know, you're on your own hero's journey, and you've got to work to your own.
Although we're obviously fallen and imperfect, you've got to work to that perfection.
My problem with Ayn Rand has always been it's a philosophy when you really get down to it.
It's a philosophy for a 12-year-old girl.
You know, she's always looking for ubermensch.
And it's got very too niche.
It's not about, yes, individuals.
Remember, I think I would say that Judea Christian West has put it the other day, is predicated upon the individual, the family as a unit in the nation state.
And I think populism can work in there.
And populism is not communism.
It's not that we're all, you know, it's all about equal outcomes.
It's anything but.
But it's having, particularly today where you have the, you know, it's the massive technology, this whole technocracy, right?
It's very important for individuals to bind together and that we fight this as a fight this as a unit.
And that's why I think populism is getting to be more and more powerful and more and more.
And I think people are fed up with it.
They see that.
Remember, Trump's power was that Trump not just put you in the room, he put you at the head of the table.
And before, it's not in the room, not in the deal.
That's the problem with the controlled opposition that is the Republican Party.
And you see this now as your awakening and self-actualization is coming.
So are the people, they realize, hey, since Richard Nixon, we've won more elections than we've lost, right?
We've elected more congressmen, more senators, one, and we lost the country.
You saw that on the afternoon of January 20th, 2021, what the illegitimate Biden regime was doing, we had lost the country.
So that's because the Republican Party has become part of the Unit Party.
It's a controlled opposition.
It's like pro-wrestling.
They don't really want to fight on anything.
And that's why they get so angry and so nasty when we want to stand up.
And whether it's a border wall, whether stop the invasion of the southern border, whether it's having some rationality in the Ukraine, whether it's to, I think, not just audit the Fed, but to end the Federal Reserve.
When you talk about anything structurally that really needs to change in order to change people's lives in this nation's lives for the better, they completely freak out.
In fact, the Never Trumpers and the Republican establishment hate the populist nationalist movement, MAGA, Ultra MAGA, and President Trump more than even the Democrats, if that can be believed.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I wanted to, so that sort of brings me to my next point, the next question I want to ask you about.
And I think there's a couple of different things going on.
Obviously, the last several years have been sort of like one disaster after another in terms of political and just general societal problems, like the pandemic, of course.
And it's really easy in the age of the internet and social media to like get this sort of overwhelming sense of hopelessness because everything is so negative because it drives clicks.
And what I wanted to ask you specifically is like, how can individual Americans, how can I, Chase Geiser, actually feel like I can make an impact and change.
You're making an impact right now.
Everybody can get engaged.
Everybody can get involved.
That's the reason we've turned this thing around.
Remember, we didn't have the House, the Senate, we had nothing on the afternoon of the 20, January 20th, 2021.
And on this Sunday, we're 100 days away from the biggest, most important midterm election, I think, in the country's history, but at least since 1862, since the Civil War.
This is massive.
And right now, we can pick up, I don't know, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 seats, maybe more, and totally turn the country around, stop the illegitimate Biden regime in its tracks.
The technology has made it so that everybody can get engaged.
There's nobody out there that should be able to sit there.
And so I can't, not just listening to talk radio, not just listening to your show, listening to War Room, watching Fox, actively engage and being part of this.
Remember, this is the fourth turning, the fourth great turning in this country's history.
And people say they go, oh, if I was in the revolution, I'd be at Saratoga and I would be at Valley Forge, or if it was a Civil War, I'd be right there at the wall of Gettysburg.
Or World War II, I'd be stirring the beaches of Normandy.
Well, hold it.
You can be that.
Look at you.
You start a show with absolutely nothing and you have thousands and thousands of listeners and you have force multipliers that send your content out.
The reason I saw, even know who you are is that I was, somebody in my feed started sending me clips of your show and I said, this is an interesting guy.
So everybody can do that.
You not just have a podcast.
You can get engaged.
You can become a school.
Look, we're taking over school boards.
We're taking over canvassing boards.
We're taking over election boards.
We're taking over medical boards now.
People are running that never even thought about it for town councils and county commissioners and be state representatives.
Now is the age of engagement.
We're building an army of the awakened.
And now is the age of engagement.
If you want to go up, was it Maslow's self-actualization?
Hierarchy of needs.
You have to, right now, in everybody's individual journey, is actually be your own hero's journey.
Be the hero of your own story.
The way you're going to be that is be part of the army awakened.
You're going to be able to sit there and go, hey, I did this.
I helped take back this school board.
I helped turn things around in my community.
I put my shoulder to the wood and worked a phone bank to make sure that Trump won the third term at every level.
And I'd say, put away the golf clubs, get engaged.
We're at war for the direction of this country.
And this whole thing about unity and bringing the country together, look, American history doesn't work like that.
When you have these turnings in the revolution and the Civil War, around the Great Depression, one side wins and one side loses.
Look, in the revolution, it was probably a third or third at best.
There was a third Tories, maybe to 40%.
There was, I don't know, people say 3% up to maybe a third that were for the rebellion, right?
And there was, as there always is, there's people in the middle.
You see that in the world today.
One side wins and one side loses.
When people say, well, you know, Lincoln and FDR and Reagan and Washington, they were uniters.
That's BS.
Go back and read the history of the time.
Nobody's more divisive than Lincoln.
No more is more divisive than FDR.
No one is more divisive than Reagan or even General Washington when he's part of the revolution.
What happened is that their side won and then afterwards the country goes to the next level and you unite around that new node.
We're in the same fight right now.
I don't have any problem with progressive fighting for what they believe in.
I think it's healthy.
I think it's healthy.
We're divided right now on very fundamental issues because we're having a definition of what we want the country to be.
Is it going to be the republic that was bequeathed to us, right?
And we're going to have to fight for this.
And I'm going to tell you, how that's going to be won is not donors, not money, not all the fat cats.
That's where populism comes in.
The Trump movement has been a populist movement from day one.
President Trump, I think we had 600 million bucks in 16.
Here we had over 2 billion.
That was people getting out, putting the yard signs out there.
It was a grassroots, just like the Tea Party movement, grassroots ever.
That's how Trump won in 20, and it's how he's going to win again, the three-peat in 2024.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
You know, it's one thing to sort of engage and rally your own side.
One of the things that I've struggled with that I would like to be able to do, and it may be impossible, but I would like to be the type of voice that can change minds, not just rally the base.
And it seems to be almost impossible to do.
I know that it's very hard for other people to change my mind.
And that's something I'm self-conscious about because I wonder, you know, what am I stubborn about?
What am I missing that I could be wrong about?
I don't think you can talk.
I think when you say change minds, I don't think you can talk it through.
I think you have to show people the evidence.
It's a difference between, it's one of the things I try to do at Breitbart, I try to do in the war room, it's a difference between opinion and actually news.
Over time, facts, their lived experience, do you want to change people's minds?
Make sure you get them the information they need for their own lived experience.
Who's going to change people's mind is the people themselves.
Nobody's going to talk, you're not going to talk people into, you're not going to argue this through.
It's not about argument.
It's not about debate.
This is not a debating society.
This is about in real life, taking action and making things happen.
You want to see people whose minds are changing right now, the suburban women who, if you mention Donald Trump's name, they've spit on the floor, yet they're coming to our cause because of the mass mandates, the vaccine mandates, the CRT, the gender ideology in schools.
You look at these, you look at the Youngin victory.
The Youngkin victory is a combination of an overperformance by MAGA with the suburban mobs coming and saying, hey, look, I don't agree with these people on a lot of their policies, but on the core things around my kids, I 100% agree with them.
And I see them taking action.
I see that they're out there fighting for things that are important in my life.
It's right now with this complete meltdown of the economy.
So you're not going to argue.
You don't change people, I don't think, by argument or debate.
You do it by, I think, providing information and letting them see about the lived experience of life.
One thing is in the war room, we have a pretty substantial audience of former Bernie Bros, right?
Guys within the apes on Wall Street or things, and they were left-wing populists.
And now it's the Tim Pools of the world.
Tim Poole's a good example, who Tim came from the Occupy movement.
And now Tim, I don't know if he would stand up and say it, but he's one of, I think, the driving intellectual forces of the populist movement, at least the center right.
He's not as right-wing as some of us are.
But Tim is a perfect example, and he's seen that through his lived experience.
So I think what you do every day and what your audience can do, every person in your audience can sit there as a force multiply and take the clips they like and put it out there.
And the more you put it out, people come to, I mean, this reason the war room expands so exponentially.
People share that.
People come and they give a listen and say, wow, this guy's talking about global capital markets.
He's talking about economy.
He's talking about finance.
He's talking about things that impact my life.
And he's putting it into kind of a political framework.
Over time, this become some of our most devout followers.
And so that's the, to me, that's the way you're doing it.
And you're doing that every day by putting up content.
And people got to understand it's very hard to put up content.
Force multipliers to distribute it out, given now that we have the technology to do that, is the way I see to become a person.
It's like the committees of correspondence during the revolution.
That's essentially what you are.
And it's knitting together the entire country.
I mean, on the show, we come in on the precinct strategy.
We try to have, at least in every show, an example of where it's worked.
And it's just amazing.
You saw the CNN piece the other night.
CNN thought that was a hit piece.
I thought it was incredibly positive.
They had the women in DeKalb County that had heard the show and said, well, let's become a precinct committee man.
And now two of them are running for the state legislature.
To me, that's what we need to do.
People need to take action and they need to engage this great fight for our country as part of the fabric of their lives right now.
So I know we're coming up on time.
I want to ask you one final question before.
No, no, no.
We can go to the bottom of the bottom of the hour.
I just got to bounce and do another interview tonight.
Sounds good.
I wanted to ask you, what is something that you know or understand now that you wish you would have known as a young man early in your career?
That there is a study done in World War II about the merchant Marines.
They did a study, I think it was with the data from World War II, and it was published or worked on.
It came out after World War II, if my memory serves me correctly.
And what it showed is on torpedoed ships in the North Atlantic that were coming across to basically rearm England from the United States, rearm England, that the highest percentage of people that survived were not the young, strong.
It was not Chase.
It was Steve.
And the reason was it turned out when they did the analysis, the younger guys were in much better shape.
It was orders of magnitude better shape.
The old guys were old guys.
And why was there a higher survival rate of the old versus the young?
And it came out that was experience, that they had been through other things in their life and they figured, hey, I can fall back on myself and just power through.
One of the most important things you can learn in your life, and I wish I had learned it earlier, but it's part of that process.
If you jump ahead, is that in everything that's important in your life, everything that you're going to have to accomplish is going to be set with failures, setbacks, diversion, right?
In some esoteric terminology, they call it the law of three, or sometimes it's a difference to the law of seven of different octaves, of how you have to power through things.
It's a reason that most things in your life you don't accomplish.
You start and you really gung-ho, but then some obstacle comes up, you get diverted, your tension gets diverted, and you go in a different direction, never gets accomplished.
The experience, I think, shows you that if you just stick with it, right, over time, I know I can power through this, and I know I can go up and take it up the next level.
And so the thing I wish I had learned earlier was that that's out there, and it takes determination, it takes focus, but it also takes to understand that if you have initial failure, initial obstacles, initial blocks, that I can get through that.
I can get a workaround.
I can go through that.
And that to get through that failure, because you're going to fail so many different times.
Get through that failure is not absolutely, that ends something.
It actually can take you to the next level.
And I think in looking back over my life, if I had learned that earlier and ingrained that more in my personality as I have today, I was called the honey badger for a long time because I am relentless.
And part of that was learned.
I didn't have that at the beginning.
I was not a great high school athlete.
I was not a great student.
I went to a military prep school.
I had great friends and great buddies.
I was a very average athlete, but maybe below average.
I played sports, but I wasn't great.
My father was a great athlete.
My brothers are great athletes.
I wasn't a great, I mean, I read everything, but I wasn't a great student.
And it just kind of drifted in those young years.
Now, I look back and see the reading and things like that were the foundation for other things.
But at the time, it had not focused me on what happened.
That's the great thing that the Navy gave me as a naval officer to understand that responsibility and authority that you have to sit there and you have to power through.
And that's why I always recommend to every young person in their 20s is to always join the armed forces because they're going to put you in situations that you will never see in your entire life.
And they'll send you throughout the world and places you would never go.
And the one thing I can tell you from dealing with some of the wealthiest people in the world and dealing at the highest levels of Wall Street and in corporate America throughout the world, whether it's in Paris or Shanghai or New York or Hollywood, the one thing that people always tell me they regret is not going into the military when they're 20 if they could vote over again.
So, no, I think it's a thing of stick-to-hiveness and grit to learn how to take that and to develop in yourself and just be relentless.
Once you commit, once you commit to something, you're going to see all of a sudden, wow, I'm meeting this person.
I'm meeting, you know, it was called, I think, with the law of success or something a few years ago.
Law of attraction.
Law of attraction.
They had a thing.
The ancients had a saying, your being attracts your life.
Your being attracts your life.
But this is part of, it's a deeper philosophy than obviously the law of attraction kind of commercialized it.
But once you commit, you'll find a book.
You'll find a magazine.
All of a sudden, you'll hear a conversation.
Maybe a friend you haven't talked to in a while, they're introduced to something that'll be on that journey of what you're trying to accomplish.
And so that is, I always give that guidance to, it's one of the reasons I have people watch 12 o'clock high.
Everybody that comes to work for me has to do a certain few things when they come to work.
One of the first things they have to do is watch 12 o'clock high to see that kind of personification of how you have to ingrain that into yourself.
Yeah.
So I'm curious, based on your response, is there anything that comes to mind for you that you gave up on that you, in retrospect, wish you hadn't?
Oh, it's so much.
I've been married three times.
Yes, a lot.
A lot.
Both in personal life and professional life.
Absolutely.
There's many things.
But look, your journey is your journey.
I don't have any regrets in my life whatever.
I'm very blessed to be able to get up every day and doing exactly what.
Now, one of the reasons is I committed fully back in 2000, right after the financial crash in 2008 or 2010 to really start to do this full time and to give up hobbies and to give up other things I had done, understanding that I've only got so much time in this temporal world that you got to do it.
So it was a 100% commitment, seven days a week, 20 hours a day, and just to let's get on it.
It's been incredibly not just fulfilling.
And the people I've met, I would have never met in a million years.
It's just been a tremendous experience.
It's something that gets up every day and say, okay, what are we doing today?
How do we get it done?
No, but everybody's life.
One of the things I would tell people is don't worry about the past like that, right?
You're looking forward.
At Harvard Business School is one of the first things they teach you is the theory of sunk cost.
That you can't, if you make decisions and you always look back about all the costs and everything, get there, you're always going to make the incremental marginal decision, right?
You've got to look from this, the net present value, from this absolute moment, you've got to discount those cash flows back to right now, not to a year ago, not because otherwise you'll always be making just decisions on the margin.
You have to do that with your life too, I think.
That it's not that you can forget about what you've done or forget about what you bring or forget about all those relationships or what has made you the person you are, but you've got to look from this moment forward and how I'm going to do it.
And don't let the past be in hindrance.
And particularly as you're coming to this populist movement, there's so many people I meet all the time.
Every time I give a talk, every time I go anywhere, that really a lot of people didn't come to this until their 50s and 60s.
That's fine, right?
I mean, obviously now we're trying to energize a younger part of that.
You see in the turning point, the great conference they had over the weekend.
I know someone like you is getting out to a younger audience.
We want that.
But at any age, you can sit there with no previous engagement and say, I can do this.
I can get engaged.
And I can take a little step and that'll lead to something else.
But I tell everybody, once you commit, once you commit your person, a whole world's going to open up to you.
If you just, if they go to precinct strategy and just get on there and go to a precinct, you're going to see in 90 days you've got different relationships, new friends, and you feel like I'm accomplishing something.
I'm actually doing something.
And you don't have to be a donor.
You don't have to write a check.
Remember, all the Republican Party wants you to do is to send money and show up and vote.
They don't care about anything else here, and they certainly don't care about your ideas or what you think.
And that's, I think, we have to break that paradigm.
So I know we're coming up in the bottom of the hour.
Real quick, if you had to guess, what do you think the United States is going to look like in 2028 at the end of the fourth turning?
Well, it's not the end of the fourth turning at all.
I think where we're in right now, and it's not just President Trump, it's not just us winning the midterms.
It's not just winning in 2024 and 2028.
We've got a ways to go in this baby.
This is going to be very tough, and there's no guarantee.
Remember, in the turnings, their days are going to look like the clouds are on top of you in the fog, and there's going to be other times where you're sitting there.
It's all blue.
It's a sunny sky, and it's very clear, and you feel like you're at top of the world, and you're winning.
You're going to have days you look like you're losing, and days you're winning.
Remember, look at the afternoon.
Look at the afternoon of January 20th, 2021.
I'm very proud.
Hey, in Washington, D.C., it was a pretty lonely place for conservatives.
We had 100 National Guards guys out here right in back of the Supreme Court in our street, armored up.
This town was empty, conservatives.
Everybody left.
They went to Florida.
They went to Texas.
I said, we're not going to do that.
We're going to, every day, we're going to hammer.
We're going to take down this illegitimate regime.
And we didn't do it solely, but we were a small piece of it.
But I got to tell you, we're very proud of where we are today, where we were then.
We're going to say, we're going to stand right in the breach.
We're not going to back up one inch.
And so, no, I think it's now more than ever.
And people have to understand, there's no guarantee how this thing turns out.
Although it looks like we have, it could get overwhelming big majorities, at least in the House and maybe the Senate.
Looks like we're winning at every level.
We have to execute on that.
So 100 days ago, that's eternity in politics.
We have to deliver on that.
And these people are not beyond pulling every trick in the book.
Remember, this is a, and it's not just, I hate that term, the swamp or the drain the swamp.
It's a nice term.
It's catchy, but it's too cutesy.
And I don't like deep state either.
Deep state's like it's all hidden from you.
It's up in your face.
The administrative state is there.
It has to be taken apart brick by brick.
We have to take this leviathan apart or this undemocratic apparatus is going to rule your life and, more importantly, rule your children's lives.
So our work is ahead of us.
How it looks, I like our odds.
I actually think two-thirds to 75% of the nation agrees with us.
I think you're seeing this in the Hispanic vote.
I think very quickly you're going to see in the African-American male vote, Asian vote, white working class, the middle class, even suburban moms who don't like everything.
They think Orange Man's bad, but agree with us on these fundamental issues about education and their children.
We have, and there's all this talk about we're going to succeed from this.
This state's going to succeed.
We're going to have civil war stuff.
That's all nonsense.
That's the left wants us.
They want that, so we're chasing rabbits like that.
This country is too important and too sacred a vessel for us to try to.
You have to think of every patriot, every patriot grave that's fought to make this country stronger, to make this country better, to keep this country together.
That is our direct descendants, right, politically and philosophically, and we have to fight for them.
We owe as much, as Burke said, we owe as much to those that came before us as those that are going to come after us.
I like our odds.
And what I really like, Chase, I like the people on our side of the football.
I think we've got incredible people.
You see Hispanics coming on, African Americans coming over, the Asian Americans, particularly the Chinese Americans.
We build every day.
We're growing every day.
Inclusive nationalism and participatory populism is the future of politics in this nation.
MAGA is ascended, and ultra-mega is the tip of the spear of that.
I just think it's our time, but we have to execute.
Well, Steve, it was an honor and a pleasure to have you on One American Podcast.
