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Aug. 20, 2021 - One American - Chase Geiser

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The Tower Gang, Toad & Fat Dave From Tower Power Hour, Have An Offensive Conversation | OAP #47

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	They are easy, but because they are hot, Mr. Gorbachev.
	Tear down this wall.
	A date which will live in infamy.
	I still have a dream.
	Good night and good luck.
	Good night and good luck.
	Alright, so who are you guys and what are you doing on my podcast?
	I don't know what the hell is wrong with you.
	I just the first one say that that fucking intro is a bop, dude.
	I was sitting back there just like vibing with that.
	That is nice.
	I appreciate it.
	I appreciate it.
	I hope the I hope whoever it is that made the music that is licensed free is not like a major leftist because it's featured on every single uh every single my fucking camera's gonna freeze, just bear with me.
	But it's featured it's featured on every single uh intro to this this uh this podcast, and they probably hate that, but that's how it goes.
	I just kind of miss it.
	You guys ever have you guys ever have this problem?
	So if I leave this camera on, then it overheats.
	And so I left it on all night last night, and right before I popped in, I was like, oh shit.
	So I had to flip it off and flip it back on, and so every once in a while you'll probably see that that that error, but uh, I'm still here low.
	I'm uh I'm a fucking podcast noob, and even though we've been doing we have what we have like what like 25 episodes now, something something ridiculous.
	I've been using my phone.
	Yeah, I've been using my phone this whole time.
	Like I've been using my phone.
	I did like it will overheat, and then like it'll be like all right, shutting down.
	I'm like, all right, we're just in the middle of it, I'm just I'm out gone.
	So I understand.
	Someday the freezing like a Josh Smith thing, though.
	Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he's got the same problem.
	Hey, I actually did the podcast with him, and he was talking to me about it, and we had the same issue.
	So we were just freezing together.
	You know, like the Titanic.
	Too soon.
	So man, I heard a too soon joke about John the Baptist one time.
	Like I was a church camp and somebody made somebody made like a joke about John the Baptist being beheaded.
	It might have been me, I can't remember, and one of the guys is like, too soon, man, too soon.
	Two thousand years ago, Jesus Christ.
	Yeah, that ancient bitch Lucy, like I wonder how she died too soon, man.
	So I'm new to the podcast thing too.
	I started doing mine at like the end of May, and I kept doing it because I had like a Tony Schaefer cliff that clip that went viral.
	And um I was I mean, I was gonna give it a year anyway, but it would that was like really the encouraging factor.
	Um but it's it's been like so so my point is I don't really know anything about podcasting, I'm just winging it.
	What what has your experience been?
	Dude, it's been the same for us.
	Like we um we started as basically just alright, we have fun in these group chats that we're in, which is a tower game's group chat.
	Uh we get a little autistic, we get a little retarded, we get a little just funny, and I was like, I basically said, hey, we need a podcast.
	Like not to get not to get big, just because I think this is funny, and I think other people find us funny.
	Let's put it out.
	Yeah.
	And basically we've been just winging it this entire time.
	Yeah.
	I think the best podcasts are the ones are the ones your wife.
	Oh, oh shit.
	Your wife's home, your wife's home, dude.
	It's like the you guys you ever see the burbs toad?
	I I have not actually.
	Oh, so I grew up in the Midwest, so it's like a staple, and there's a scene at the very end where they're like, art, your house is on fire in your wife's home, and he goes, My wife's home.
	Yeah, well, we should.
	Fat Dave is whipped, bro.
	Whipped libertarian, man.
	Fat Dave uh is probably the most whipped of us, which we've made fun of him for, but I think his wife has kind of become more base as time has gone on.
	Cause I think it was more like we had one episode where she I think she got pissed at him because we were talking about women's tits and what our preferred uh boob to nipple ratio was, and then uh yeah, you know, people don't talk about boob to nipple ratio enough.
	Right, I know.
	It's like wait, I mean, people are I think overruling me because I like nipples on the larger side and people are like, what the hell is wrong with you, man?
	So maybe I'm maybe I'm talking more about the areolas, I don't know, like the puffy nipples, that's my thing.
	Oh yeah.
	I remember my you know how like obviously when you're like 15, you know, you're a teenager and you start you and your friends start talking about you know the girls you're fooling around with and it's all like this brand new exciting shit going on.
	And I remember my friend Alex was dating this girl and uh he's like, Man, she's so hot, but her nipples are like mosquito little mosquito bites, man.
	They're like little mosquito bites.
	I'm like, what the fuck?
	It's just like every time I think of this person, I just like see these little red dots in my mind.
	I mean, the the reason why I mean I think it's weird if people are attracted to shit like that, is because it's like that's more on the side of like that looks like a dude's nipple, or or maybe even like a child's nipple or something.
	Like, I don't even know.
	What's going on now?
	We're talking about we're talking about move to nipple ratio, bro.
	So it's so god you're gonna be in the doghouse, bro.
	By the way, so I I what happened was my my wife is she knocks on the door and I'm like, what's going on?
	She was like, I think my contact went just behind my eye.
	And I was like, Well, what do you want me to do?
	I can't fucking so and she was like, Can you look at it?
	And she pulls up her eye like this, and then I just see a folded um look at that contact color chase right there.
	This is this is fucking canon right here.
	Canon, guys.
	Did you have did you pop her uh her eyeball out like a pug?
	No, I'm just I'm just I just still throw it just all fucking like doing what you just keep doing what you're doing, because it's fallen out.
	But that's why I had to leave was because my I'm reluctant to reset my camera because this is like the closest I'm ever gonna get to a Hunter Biden painting.
	I really I really like I really like this, and you should definitely clip it and make it your profile picture on Twitter.
	Oh yeah, I was thinking it was more of like almost like a zombie thing almost.
	I'm doing a screenshot.
	This is gonna be this is gonna be the thumbnail right here.
	That's a whole video.
	All right, so um so you guys have been doing the podcast, and I was try I was gonna say before uh Fat Dave's wife came in and just totally home wrecked that uh it seems to me the best podcasts are the ones where the host is just doing it for the sake of doing it, you know.
	Yeah, like we literally just are having fun, like we literally just want to have fun and we want to have on fun guests and have on fun people and just like and like we'll talk politics because we're all in caps and we're all fucking just autistic.
	But like at the same time, it's not a it's not at the forefront of political podcasts where they're to have fun and just uh kind of shoot the shit.
	And it's like talking to your bros around a bar.
	How did you uh get how'd you get the name Tower Gang?
	It's like uh Toad, that's that's more of your uh lane right there.
	We um so it's because we were doing Twitter towers, which is uh this concept where you want to say more inappropriate things, essentially things that might be banable on Twitter under normal circumstances, and you spell it out one letter at a time instead with single letter tweets.
	Oh yeah, which it started before both of our times.
	I think we actually had an episode where we had some of the OGs on talking about where I think it started with towers that were more racial slurs.
	Like I think it was like crack boots, but well well, there's been a uh I think it's like an internet kind of um thing for a while where you spell out the N-word one letter at a time, and like you see someone posts it in, then you post an eye and it goes on, whatever you can figure it out.
	Right.
	But it's hard as like it's hard to spell Nostradamus backwards, you know.
	Like yeah, and that's a and that's the thing is like at some point someone we like, I can't remember who it was.
	I think it was El Popo or one of those guys, uh that were like, oh, they figured out that we can do this and say other stuff and make it long, and then if we like each other's uh letters, all of a sudden it goes, um like it blows up your notifications and take it from us that whenever it blows up your notifications,
	and then you see this long th like long thread of single letters and it spells out you know to Megan McCain daddy's in hell pork chop or something like that.
	I mean, just stuff like that.
	So plus you get every like every letter you get a like, right?
	So it's like it's oh yeah, insane.
	I wonder if that would like I I wish I knew the Twitter algos so that like I could so we could see like what like tweet to engagement ratio, like you know, boosts your your account because there's all sorts of crazy stuff like TikTok's algorithms are really interesting, like based on the length of your video, the there's there's an algorithm that determines what percentage of it needs to be watched in order for it to go viral.
	So like if you have a nine-second video, a hundred percent of it has to be watched, but if you have a three minute video, like maybe only 25% of it needs to be watched, uh watch through or 50%.
	And so I I I know that Twitter's got crazy algorithms like that too that are all proprietary and secret, but I bet you the I bet you the tower method, because of the number of engagements you get, you get one person and you get seven engagements or for like a seven letter word that you know makes sense that it would blow up the reach of a tweet inadvertently.
	Well, yeah, I mean it's way more than that, right?
	Because it's you have each person that's in the tower is supposed to like every single person's letter, so it's a multiplicative effect on it.
	And I don't think it actually ratios the tweet more though.
	Like I don't think it counts as if it's a seven-letter tower, I don't think it counts as seven replies.
	I think it's still one with replies on those, but it's still it's that in the concept of like if you have like a 30-letter tower or something like that, and you have a message that you're sending, it's like all of these people agree with what you're saying here.
	So it kind of has more of an impact mentally on the person you're towering and the people that see it.
	We've had towers get over, you know, 200 likes um uh a letter, and then like get like you know, 10 retweets.
	I mean, it's so it's like I mean, it gets huge, and then it boosts that to the top of there, like whenever you click on the tweet, the first thing you see is a letter.
	And people are like, what the fuck?
	And then it's just like then it's like and then it's just all letters, and it spells, you know, just anything.
	I mean, there's I think our number, our longest one was what, 67 letters?
	69.
	I think that that one felt like it was kind of forced, though.
	So that's forced, but it was we did get 69 people too, and the other thing is they see it was never supposed to be repeated.
	So one person can't comment twice.
	And so I mean, you did see 30, 40 people that would like or in all agreeing together.
	And it just and it just really freaks people out.
	We've gotten corporal journalists to um private their account.
	We've gotten, I mean, all sorts of shit happened.
	We we barely we we bring up towers like you know, once a month now.
	So do you do it like does one person create it as a thread, or do you just start with a letter and then like let the audience figure like figure out what the sentence is.
	Oh frozen again.
	So toad has been uh for a while in Tower Gang.
	He was like our uh tower gang commandant, so uh I'll let him go ahead.
	It's it's only because of my supreme autism about like we need to get these towers done.
	But it was it was me and Jose Gali San were kind of uh, we were kind of the conceptualizers, I guess, of the towers for a period of time, but it was kind of more of an organic thing in a way, where it was because we're in this group, we have a lot of funny people, and people would be like, here's a tweet, we think we should tower, and then people would kind of throw out ideas of what the tower should be.
	And the ideas are kind of evolved a little bit, and the best towers are kind of ones that took kind of parts from a couple of different towers that were funny and wound up being something that combined those jokes or something like that, and were maybe in like the 20 or 30 length, and then you get everybody doing it, you get nobody doubling the letters, and people because we're in the group, people know what the tower is, and then sometimes you'd like send it out to some people that are outside of the group and get a few other people to join in, but yeah, yeah.
	So like the other day, actually, we we did one of the we like rare, like again, rarely we do towers anymore, but like we did do uh white women must be stopped.
	Uh yes, like I think it was what two days ago or yesterday or something like that.
	And we we like I just put a W and then immediately someone else that wasn't in our group chat put an H. And so like Yeah, so it's so it there is very there is some organic that happens of like where people come in and just start like just comment and they can understand uh what's going on.
	We've done a lot of enemy of the people's.
	Uh we've done, I mean, there's a bunch of different ones we've done.
	Have you ever had an instance where one of them's been like flagged or reported?
	Yes.
	Oh, definitely.
	We've had yeah, like early on, there was one, like one of the most famous towers, which kind of got tower game to be kind of known as a thing, was on this journalist, uh Tessa Duval early on.
	I don't remember what her tweet was.
	I thought that she was trying to dox some of the one six insurrectionists, but I could be wrong about that.
	It could have been something else, too.
	I don't remember what it was.
	It was a little bit before I was actually in Tower Gang.
	And I definitely saw the tower because she wound up blocking me because I quote tweeted her tweet, but she actually reported maybe all of the people in the tower, and at least three of the people that were in it that I know got their accounts, I think permanently banned for it, or at least suspended for it.
	Really?
	So Twitter will come in and they will they will ban your account for posting one letter in that that comprises one message that's against the terms.
	I I could have that wrong because maybe maybe those two and said something else in addition to that.
	I'm not actually sure, but it did get to the point there almost like when we've at by the end we were doing towers where it would be deboosted to hell.
	Like you would like see it, and then you would have to do like the C replies.
	Like Twitter does that thing where you see replies, and then it still might shadow ban a lot of these.
	And so it got to the point where we would have to do totally different kind of stuff.
	Twitter was catching on.
	We were doing uh at one point we would do gifts, like diffs of letters.
	Um like where we the first letter of each sentence would make a and the sentences didn't have to mean anything, but right, right, and the first letters would spell out something.
	So we did a lot of different stuff, but it just got to where I mean we were doing seven in a day or eight in a day or something like that, and it got so hard that we finally like it, we got burnt out pretty like after a couple months.
	So yeah, we we had like eighty in a week once, I think, which was totally ridiculous.
	But we had situations where it was more than just where a bunch of us would get reply deboosted by a Twitter algorithm or something, which I probably am right now, just for shit that I say.
	So that means that people that don't follow you can't see your replies for the most part.
	But it would be more than that, where you there were situations where you'd start a tower, like you wouldn't even be able to start a tower on Gavin Newsom, for example.
	We never were able to start a tower on him.
	The first letter on him, even with gifts, I think the first response that it was like he had people there that were not only deleted.
	Well, because we know the person that uh uh is the originator of a tweet can actually delete a reply, but then it says this reply has been deleted by the tweeter or whatever.
	This is a situation where the tweet would just be completely gone.
	Like the reply, I mean the start of the tower would just be gone.
	There'd be no way.
	Well, I mean he's deeply rooted in in Silicon Valley.
	I mean, he's from San Francisco, he's the governor of California.
	So he in his situation, he's probably calling staff at Twitter, you know, that are like in his contacts, and he's like, hey, fix this shit.
	You know, yeah.
	Any type of just uh contradictory to what he's saying probably just gets gone, like immediately because I mean the these fucking uh I mean corrupt tyrants can't take any type of criticism because they see it as well.
	Dude, he's like Bizarro Bradley Cooper.
	He's like Bradley Cooper without a conscience.
	That's yeah, and he's he's also I think he's Nancy Pelosi's nephew as well.
	Yeah, that's a word on the street.
	Yeah, it's nepotism up the ass.
	I I mean I believe it.
	He kind of looks the same, but they all kind of never look at never look into like how many of these uh political figures are related.
	It gets freaky real fast.
	You're like, okay, this is just a whole thing of just nepotism corruption.
	It's almost like when democracy was invented, everybody was just like, all right, but can we still fuck our families?
	That's so great.
	That's that's that's only that's only that's only an Alabama where Fat Dave was.
	That's right, yeah.
	It's like the like I said that all about families, but it's only true to Alabama.
	It's just like I'm just seeing it.
	Ironically the least corrupt state.
	Yes, right.
	Yeah, one of the things that we're gonna do.
	We're all no money here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's right.
	Like that that's right.
	It's like us in Mississippi are like the fucking um uh what's it the poorest states in the United States, and like so there's no corruption because there's no money here, so everybody's kind of really nice and everybody's really good.
	Well, yeah, Mississippi is the most obese state, I believe, too.
	But Mississippi, if you follow like the libertarian parties at the state level, they seem to have one of the worst libertarian state parties, state affiliates for whatever reason.
	Well, then I have the pretty bad one, I'll tell you that.
	Really?
	I feel like New Hampshire is like the only one that like fucking knows the difference between its ass and its head.
	Uh Connecticut is actually Connecticut is really good.
	Uh that makes sense.
	Yeah, they're kind of northeastern I don't know if you saw this, but did you see LP Texas?
	Um them tweet out it was about Afghanistan the other day.
	I think it was.
	I wish I would have seen it because I live in Texas.
	But I missed it.
	It was It was so bad.
	It was I I can't remember what I can't remember exactly what they said.
	I might have to look it up.
	But it was something about how um it it was them basically shitting on like leaving Afghanistan because of feminism.
	I think it was literally something on the I'm gonna look to look to something like that.
	Zombies have infiltrated, bro.
	Yeah it was so bad.
	Yeah, somebody they could tweeted um a comparison.
	What was it?
	A comparison between it was definitely LP Texas and something else.
	I can't remember.
	I think maybe Reed tweeted a comparison of it.
	I forget who he was comparing to, but it was you fucking you libertarians are so decentralized that you can't keep you can't keep your state parties in line.
	So there's like you know, like the DNC is like, all right, you know, every tweet from every single state party has to come through, like you know, the the the main corporate centralized bullshit and get approved.
	And then the libertarians are like, fuck you, we're gonna you know get tweet what we want.
	It's gonna be a different outcome.
	It's true, yeah.
	And uh Texas is really one of the worst, though, and I don't really know who they have at the top there.
	Who whoever runs the Twitter account is they might as well be the old LP national before LP National got a little bit better, but so I found what it was.
	So President Biden tweeted out American troops cannot and should not be fighting and dying in a war that Afghan forces are by and large not willing to fight and die themselves, which is honestly a pretty base tweet.
	Yeah, that's LP Texas, the LP, who we we know should be against all wars, getting out as fast as possible of every war and stopping every one of them.
	The L the official Libertarian Party of Texas said, What will you do for the Afghans who are willing to fight with us whose lives are now at risk because you refuse to create a plan to bring them to safety?
	The blood of those refugees will be on your hands.
	That's what they're why isn't that person just running the Republican page?
	Like why aren't they just running the Republican fucking Twitter?
	That's literally like why they do just be a Republican if you feel that way.
	It's so dumb.
	I I could not believe I literally saw it and I was like, I can't believe that like the LP Mises Caucus, Texas actually like tweeted and said something, and I I said like when's the takeover happening?
	And I kind of caused a little re because people don't like the takeover talk.
	But it's just like I can't I I feel sorry for like people in Texas because I mean your LP really sucks, but I mean hey man, the state's still fucking awesome.
	I mean Yeah, absolutely.
	You can't agree with everything that they do because you know it's it's it's like it's it's a t it's a it's a Texas brand of Republican here, but damn the the benefits are better than the uh drawbacks, in my opinion.
	I moved here from California, so just I mean, just like just like Florida, just like Florida, where we they're they have uh like red flag walls, they have all this stuff, but it's like they also stayed open during lockdown the whole time.
	Like or mostly here, and I've literally got two, two, three just like all over like my floor.
	Hell yeah.
	Just just in case I need to dive and pick one up.
	Yeah, and then which a couple months ago was worth its weight in gold, by the way.
	I mean, should have bought a ton of gold too.
	In my state, you can't even legally own a Glock if you're not law enforcement, so yeah.
	Well, you're gonna have to get one then.
	That's how you know that's how you know you have to get one.
	I never said I didn't have one.
	I've got a I've got a 30, I got a 30 round Glock uh Glock Mag.
	Uh that's so fucking fun.
	I mean, that thing is like bigger than the gun.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like up here, I'm in Massachusetts and our AG, I think in like 2016, just by executive fiat, I'm pretty sure just banned magazines over a capacity of seven just from out of nowhere.
	There you go.
	Why you just really like 1911's?
	He was just like, this is the best gun, this is all you need.
	Two World War I baby.
	The only things he's got here was he needs a lever action.
	Oh, he sees a lever action.
	They won the war the first time.
	Right.
	Smith and Wesson are in Massachusetts, right?
	So you can buy like their revolvers and shit, and you can buy some.
	There's a part of me that thinks that the uh that the fucking gun lobby made those laws happen in different states so that they can make different magazine products.
	You know, and just sell more.
	I didn't think about that.
	I don't know if it's true or not, but it's just part of me that thinks yeah, they fucking think about it.
	It's a thing of like it's a thing of like who who benefits.
	It's like uh what's the benefit of this?
	And it's like all of a sudden more magazine different types of magazines, different types of like weird stocks come out, like all the pistol braces and shit.
	Dude, somebody needs to make a spoof Video, like you know, like a terrorist like mass shooting spoof video where there's this fucking terrorist with with a Glock with a one round magazine who's just like insanely fast at reloading.
	Just like you know what I mean.
	Just like it's John Wick.
	It's like John Wick out there, just he just keeps reloading.
	There's a crisis in reload speeds in Massachusetts.
	Reloading speeds are our national health crisis.
	Yeah, that's so funny.
	Or just all you can get here is like six shooters and SIG handguns, basically with five yeah, five round capacity, basically.
	But you probably can't even open carry, so like even having a six shooter wouldn't even be based.
	Right, you can't, yeah.
	I know yeah, walk the streets with a cowboy ad and have that just out there.
	I bought a six shooter just because constitutional carry is going into effect in September 1st here.
	And uh uh I mean, and and because I play Red Dead Redemption, or used to when it was a game.
	Absolutely, man.
	Dude, I you guys are you guys gamers?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Or at least I used to be more than that.
	I've been playing Sea of Thieves like crazy.
	Dude, it's ever played.
	I never played the thieves, but I love I never played Sea of Thieves, but I I love all the videos, especially I mean the most viral video ever.
	The uh captain, what?
	And then like the guy ran just I know exactly how talking about it.
	Drinking the tea, drinking the tea while they're uh like invading the like they're boarding a ship and he just has the tea and he's drinking it.
	Like I I love the videos of CSVs, but I've never played.
	I'm more of a uh dude the the learning curve is super super short.
	That's what's so fun about that game.
	It's like you can be awesome at it within like 15 minutes.
	Oh, okay.
	Well then that might be pretty cool.
	And then you just get on there with your buddies and just kind of dick around for like two hours.
	Yeah, you can choose you choose what kind of missions you want to do.
	And like, you know, so do you want to dig up treasure?
	All right, then you just go to the island on the map, and then you go to the X and you dig it up, and like you might have to kill some like you know, resurrecting skeletons along the way.
	Like it's just simple.
	But I don't know.
	It's that's why I like about it.
	Well, were you you're gonna say what you what you've been playing though?
	Dude, I've uh Fortnite played.
	No, I'm not a Fortnite.
	I played for I played I literally played Fortnite one time, and I was like, I'm never getting on this garbage game again ever.
	We played Minecraft just so we can uh say that we're gonna do certain things to certain people in Minecraft, and people won't.
	No, I I've been playing like a uh I'll do um Warzone.
	I've been playing a lot of Warzone with my buddies.
	Uh I love my favorite games.
	I burned out though.
	It's hard because a lot of hackers, a lot of fucking it's kind of bullshit.
	And I mean, the skill curve on that is also pretty like it's pretty large.
	Like it's like I mean, people are get really good on it, and then they're just shit on you.
	But I've been a huge, I'm a huge RPG fan, so Witcher 3, uh following.
	I've never played the Witcher games.
	My best friend here in Texas has been trying to get me to play Witcher 3, yeah.
	Play Witcher 3.
	When did it come out?
	2015.
	Yeah, it was a while.
	So does it stand up to time?
	I mean, like oh yeah, the uh the graphics on it are amazing.
	And I mean, I played the Mordor game and I thought that was fun.
	I played that the first one, whichever one of the I don't know if it was the first I can't remember which one it was, man.
	But it was I it was older and it was awesome.
	I I played the f I I played the first one, never finished it, but yeah, it's a really good game.
	Dude, I could talk gaming about I mean if you just want to talk gaming for the rest of the time, I can do it.
	I don't know if Joe can, but I know I can.
	I'm happy to.
	I mean, I I was a huge Red Dead fan.
	I think they totally botched online, but the campaign was probably the best single player experience I've ever had since like Super Mario.
	Oh, it's great, yeah.
	The original one, yeah.
	I had it on uh Xbox 360.
	Yeah, it was I never played the original, I only played Red Dead 2.
	Oh my god, to play the original is definitely better, yeah.
	I I don't know, but I tried her, but no, we're not gonna be able to do that.
	I tried the original, I couldn't do it, man.
	The mechanics were just I I was I was totally spoiled having played the second one first.
	Really?
	Oh yeah, I like the original, but I played that first for sure.
	So like I don't know, I'm kind of an originalist, so I played the original.
	Yeah, I played the original back on PS3.
	I remember playing it like I used to go over to my cousin's house and play his, and then whenever I got my own, I played it through beat it 100% of it, and then I got uh when I got my PS4 game I got was Red Dead Redemption 2, and then played the shit out of it.
	Try it online, it wasn't great.
	Again, like you said.
	I can't get into it online.
	Redhead online is just kind of rock rock star, just it literally has that golden cow calf in GTA 5, and they knew nothing to give it up.
	Well, I I I didn't like the GTA online experience either.
	I didn't I didn't get into it, man.
	I liked I like the GTA missions.
	Uh Dude, I I mean I'll show my age because most of my favorite games are all a little bit older, and like I was like a Vice City guy for GTA.
	Vice City's great.
	Yeah, Vice City and San Andreas.
	It's crazy you can play it on your fucking phone now.
	Yeah, you played any of the GTA games on your phone, it's so wild.
	So I actually I was talking about this with some friends yesterday because I I mentioned that I played COD Mobile, like because I really like it's actually really good.
	It's not a bad game at all on your phone.
	Right.
	Someone was like, you fucking like weirdo, you're playing mobile games.
	Like, yeah, they're actually really good.
	And I also played uh Kotor for the first time ever on my phone.
	That's how I played Coder was on my phone for the first time.
	Well, and you can't really fun.
	You can't play, you can't play Xbox while you're driving.
	Yeah, it's like it's just a little bit of the mobile.
	I'm literally seeing I'm literally sitting at work on the toilet taking a big shit, like someone else in here.
	Um shitting out a brain tumor.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I told Ted before he got on, dude.
	My headache totally went away in the middle of my like blowout.
	That's what McCain thought it was.
	McCain thought he just had to take a big shit and then he just died.
	Or or maybe, or maybe it's the other way around.
	Maybe he all he had to do was take a big shit, they didn't find it.
	Maybe at Megan McCain, too bad your dad didn't take a shit.
	Maybe this why dad is a hell porch up.
	Maybe all those uh beatings he took in Vietnam, like closed up his sphincter so he can never take a shit again.
	Yeah, I'll go.
	The only thing he can let out is American Intel.
	Too soon, too soon.
	No, no, no, too soon.
	Maybe that's my daddy hated the gooks.
	I don't know.
	He thought he thought it was a he thought it was his dad's watch.
	That's that's what's stopping me up.
	It's gotta be the watch.
	I'm I'm legit gonna celebrate.
	Like it's coming up.
	I think it's like next week is his death adversary is coming up, and I I legit celebrate it.
	Because fuck that guy, dude.
	Libertarian Party should do its national convention on January 6th every year just to fuck with people.
	Dude, the best person to uh follow on all this January 6th stuff is Reed Coverdale because he just puts out these super funny.
	He's my hero, man.
	I don't even agree with him.
	I'm like an I'm like a neocon compared to him half the time.
	But I just his style is so good and he's so genuine that I just fucking like I I always tweet at him, I go, I go read Coverdale's my writer, I'm a I'm his ride or die.
	And last time I tweeted, I tweeted.
	I don't I don't argue with Reed Covered, I just ride.
	And I just put hashtag ride or die.
	Because it's so great because he'll he'll get people, he'll be like, I think he tweeted the other day was uh the one six was worse than the Holocaust.
	Like, it's just that's just so great.
	It's Emo's assassinite shit, but then they can't argue against it because then somebody would accuse them of yeah.
	Literally because it's I mean, just the the amount of shit they made over uh January 6th, even though I mean whatever it was like such a fucking spontaneous just fluke bullshit thing.
	Yeah, it was yeah, it was just a crime of opportunity.
	It was not a planned fucking insurrection.
	Playing insurrection is what we just saw in Afghanistan.
	Yeah, literally, yeah, it wasn't just yeah.
	It was also one of my favorite days on Twitter ever, too, by the way.
	Um six was one of my favorite days on Twitter.
	It was so much fun.
	I was literally at work.
	I tried to uh retweet the um the video of where um Ashley Babbitt got shot.
	I bookmarked it on one six, and it's like the the bad one, like where you fucking see your you can see your eyes just like fucking go on the yeah, you can see your soul like leave her body, right?
	And I retweeted it just like kind of like a never forget thing, like you know, this is the only person you fucking died on one six, that kind of bullshit that you know you hear a million times.
	And I went to retweet it, and uh, you know, I've got 20,000 followers, and the reach of that tweet when I retweeted it was five.
	Get out.
	That is insane.
	They Twitter had flagged the video and they weren't they wouldn't take it down because they probably knew there was gonna be blowback from taking it down.
	And so they just make it so if you retweet it, nobody fucking sees it unless they're like on your profile.
	Man, it's it's such a weird thing about like how upset people and I guess I I guess if you step in their shoes, you can understand because they literally think like democracy is God, therefore, like this was an affront to God.
	I mean, it would be like you going into a church and saying, I love the devil, like fuck Jesus, 6969 and running out.
	Like they would they would literally 666.
	I think it would be maybe like a few people would do that, and everybody else would just kind of follow them in and like take selfies.
	That would be pretty much it.
	But but that's what they see it as they literally see it as a an affront to their god.
	And everybody else is just like, dude, they didn't do anything.
	Like the like they just kind of walked in.
	I'm sorry, you're probably gonna get like demonetized, like totally demonetized.
	I don't give a fuck, dude.
	So what if they what if did you ever see that show on Netflix?
	I think you should leave.
	It's like the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life.
	I don't think I ever have Netflix.
	Oh yeah, I'm gonna watch it for this then.
	Which I feel like I have seen it.
	I heard you should leave it.
	Okay, so I'm I'm gonna tell you about the show, and some of the things I'm gonna tell you about this show, take with a grain of salt because it's just hearsafe, okay?
	So my neighbor who's a close friend of mine showed me this show, and it is the funniest show that I've ever seen in my life.
	And he told me that the guy on the show used to be a writer for uh SNL, but they never ever use any of his sketches because uh they were too weird.
	And so he started his own show on Netflix, right?
	And the all the show is is like there's like six episodes a season, they're 20 minutes, and they're like three to five minute like shorts.
	Just different completely like a completely different circumstances, and it's like the funniest, weirdest shit ever.
	Okay.
	And so the reason I bring that up is because how funny would it be if like uh we did like a spoof video where it was like a hardcore Baptist church, and like all these leftists go into this Baptist church just like January 6th, and they're like taking selfies of each other, they're dressed like Vikings, and they're like, How do you like it?
	How do you like it?
	Just assuming like all the Baptists are instructionist, it's so funny.
	Oh my god.
	That'd be so great.
	This is the kind of shit that you can't do in Texas though because you get shot.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we lost that date.
	Maybe his wife killed the internet.
	Finally.
	Oh no, what's gonna happen?
	So Tony, what do you play, man?
	I wasn't I wasn't ready for the gaming conversation to be over because you know I get excited about it, and I don't think any of the boomers in my audience like what you know give me the opportunity to talk about it.
	So oh, alright.
	You've you've had some young, some young people on people younger than I am, for sure.
	No, no, no, my my guests are cool.
	I'm just saying I got boomers in my audience.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right.
	My gut, my audience is cool too, but I got a lot of boomers because uh I I did some like uh I I kind of came to came to not prominence, but I came to be known by um sort of like election fraud content, and I think that a lot of the boomers really like that.
	Oh, so we want to fuck with the them again.
	Oh, now I'm alone here.
	What's going on here?
	Yeah, I'm still here.
	I'm still here.
	So pull a uh Jeffrey Tubman now.
	Lubin Watubin.
	That's right.
	You can't see my hands right now.
	So uh, what do I play?
	Yeah, well, I mean, I was gonna mention because we're on the GTA thing, I was gonna mention Saints Row briefly because I did get into that quite a bit with Saints Row 3 mostly.
	Which I don't know if you've played that, but it's kind of GTA to the extreme.
	It's it's an open world game, similar to GTA, but you just think about it being way more extreme, and it's more um I don't even know how to describe it really.
	It's more like you're I guess you're living the high life and more it's a lot of.
	Hey, he's back.
	Stop talking shit.
	Stop talking shit.
	Chat Dave, like he's more of the obese motherfucker.
	I hate that guy, he sucks.
	I seriously thought you were gonna be fat.
	I didn't realize your profile picture was a joke.
	Oh, you didn't happen so much.
	I don't think you realize this happens so much to where people are like, oh, you're not fat?
	What the fuck?
	I'm like, do you think I have to be so big switch?
	It's like a fucking catfish me, bro.
	I was hoping to show I was hoping to show up to a fat bitch.
	It's the reverse.
	What the fuck?
	No, that's another that's another sketch.
	That's how that's another sketch just to have uh uh like a like a fake catfish, but it's actually uh like it's the opposite.
	So like this guy's like messaging this girl, and he thinks he's rejected some father.
	Or just a reality show.
	Like we should really do it.
	That needs to be a dollar show.
	Yeah, it's like a morphedly obese dating website, and like she fakes being fat, you know, for the fetish guy, and then shows up, she's like fucking hot.
	And they're like, what the f he's all fishing?
	I wanted you to crush me.
	I wanted you to crush me.
	All you're gonna do.
	I wanted to feel the weight of you on my spine.
	You were lying to me this whole time.
	You're dead to me.
	That'd be so great.
	You don't even have a waterbed.
	It's like when you it's like if you pour olive oil on a glass of water.
	That's like an obese person on a waterbed.
	Yeah, just all fucking mixed up.
	That's so fucking great.
	I I can't by the way, so you said you have 20,000 Twitter followers, and you have like uh what you're like, what a one and a half thousand on your YouTube, and you started this in May.
	Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
	Like, what happened?
	Like that's that I thought we had a fast come up because we started in I can't remember what we started, Toad.
	Like late March.
	And then we and we had Clint from Liberty Lockdown was with us, and he was on our first episode.
	So we had big guests, like big yeah, we had big people with us like right away.
	And we and we just I mean, we just barely hit I think we just hit 1.5,000 or something like that.
	Yeah.
	And that was after uh Dave Smith and Shoe on Head comes on our show.
	So what the fuck happened, man?
	Like, uh, how do you like Yeah?
	So it's a combination of things.
	I will um I I'll I'll tell you exactly what I did.
	And I'm still learning, um, but I do own an I do I own a uh digital advertising business, and so I I have a little bit of savvy uh not Twitter per se.
	I'm like, I'm a fucking a monster on Facebook and Instagram ads for people, and so I've got a little bit of like a knack for it, but with Twitter, what I did was I did a ton of research, and um uh I ran ads and I got it to the point where I could get followers for like 12 cents a follower, like real ones, and based on my targeting, and I ran ads, shit like um if you love America, follow me.
	He's paying for followers, man.
	He's wearing out for the uh for the magazine.
	Yeah, but it's just like I run stuff like uh if you love America, follow me.
	If you want to make America great again, follow me.
	It's like exactly real original shit.
	Yeah, but you know, the shit that like you know, you know, certain brand of people really buy, and it's stuff like you know, like it's like stuff I believe, but I just like I don't you know like I don't believe it in like the same way that like I do fucking love America, yeah.
	I am like you know, but I'm not like a magat, right?
	So I like you know, I don't know.
	But I but I'm I I sort of exploited that like the the momentum there.
	Uh and then what I did was once I got 5,000 followers on Twitter, um I started DMing like people that I that are way out of my league.
	And about like one in ten of them would come on the podcast.
	Like, dude, I got fucking Brandy Love on the podcast.
	Like, yeah, I got George, I got I got George Papadopoulos on the podcast, dude.
	That's dude's like pardoned by the president of the United States.
	And I just DM'd him and I was like, hey, I just bought your book, you know, and I was like, by the way, I'm gonna start a podcast next month.
	You want to be on it?
	And he's like thinking, Oh, he's never gonna start a podcast, you know.
	And he's like, Yeah, sure, I'd love to.
	Well, the next month I was like, here it is.
	It's it's actually people don't understand just how willing people are to go on podcasts.
	Like, yeah, we it's not a minute.
	Yeah, it's just like it's easy.
	It's an hour, hour and a half, and you talk and you have fun, and then it's gonna go on YouTube, so you don't have to worry about people like saying so.
	I mean, maybe for ours, I mean we we say some pretty crazy shit, but like uh but like people I mean once you hit a certain threshold, like you said, like you hit five thousand followers, and you could like if you go with the 200, they're like fuck off.
	But like once you hit a certain like 5,000, 10,000, you get around there, people all of a sudden just like, yeah, sure, absolutely.
	I mean, we we I mean, we booked I mean the shoe on head one was our biggest one.
	I mean, she has 1.6 million YouTube followers subscribers and that's 400,000 Twitter followers.
	She's kinda hot.
	I mean, she's not Tulsa Gabriel hot, but that's the biggest like and and we were trying to get uh the other day we were trying to get Marianne Williamson on.
	And like we really were really trying.
	And so like, but and their people are willing.
	Like, we I mean, Just just and either bully them into submission by just continuing to inundate them with go on this podcast or just DM them and be like, hey, you want to come on?
	And usually that DMs open, they'll be like, Yeah, sure.
	Right.
	Or tower them, which is we're doing the shoe.
	Yeah, and we told her to sell us her bath water.
	Oh, that's amazing.
	The tower, the tower method is probably a really interesting strategy for podcast guest guessing, because it's got like proof of concept, right?
	Like social proof, because it requires a community.
	And so it's almost like a it's almost like a vote.
	Like uh like an actual vote uh of of support.
	It's like a petition, rather.
	It's like a petition to get somebody on in a way that's more effective than just like you know, at tagging the podcast and in there in the potential guest replies, you know.
	That's really interesting.
	You should it's we should fuck with that.
	Well, well, there was like seriously, like AO like doing for AOC, bro.
	Like, come on the podcast.
	We actually did that the C UM.
	So that's uh Well, the only reason so there's multiple people that got on because we did tower them.
	Majore was our third guest, and we literally towered him, and he was just like he didn't know what was happening, and then just uh like we said, come on, and he was like, Okay, absolutely.
	It was and exactly.
	I mean, shoe one head did it, Dave Smith.
	We towered him, and basically we took months later.
	I've been fucking DMing that guy.
	I've been DMing that guy for months.
	So it's such a weird thing, because like and and it's I'm gonna start calling him skinny fat Dave.
	Swim Dave, Skim Dave.
	Well, Jose Gallzon is an uh Jose Gallison is one of our co-ho another hosts on the on our podcast says I he his mission in life is to make uh fat Dave bigger than uh skinny Dave so that when people see it, they're just like, oh, you're like skinny fat Dave.
	You already are bigger.
	What are you talking about?
	Um yeah, 100%.
	I'm totally bigger than Dave.
	Well, and and one thing too, because just to finish your question about how how I kind of got some traction.
	One thing that was kind of an anomaly for me was I had Tony Schaefer on, and he had like a one-minute rant about election fraud and Bill Barr calling him personally when Bill Barr was AG and telling him to stop looking into it.
	And um somehow that clip went viral on Twitter, it got like over 90,000 views on Twitter, and it got picked up by the Citizens Free Press.
	And when that happened, that was like that was like half my YouTube subscribers to date, all from that video.
	So it's a little bit misleading.
	My my growth, it's not like I did like one consistent long-term strategy that you know brought the growth up.
	Um I don't know if you can still hear me or not.
	I'm showing that my internet.
	Yeah, you're gonna better.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I don't know if I wouldn't say that it was like one consistent uh strategy that that did it, but it that is like the the popping viral content.
	One thing that I found, and I don't and I know that you've done a little bit of this on your show, is just that um uh whenever you whenever I do a podcast, I try to, if I have the time, find like that magic 30 seconds and push that that small clip.
	And um because what happens is if you do that a hundred times, five of them are gonna really pop, and those five will get you more followers than all the other 95 combined.
	I mean, it's like the music business, right?
	It's like the one act that you sign that becomes famous, pays for all the other ones you signed that just failed, right?
	So that's got that's kind of the method I think.
	And I've been pushing TikTok.
	I did a tick to I put a TikTok video up last night.
	I woke up and it had 150,000 views.
	Yeah, and it was just what the it was just nine seconds of one of my guests saying we're just saying that China's gonna invade Taiwan, and it blew up.
	It's just like it's just like a fluke thing.
	It's so you never fucking know.
	So we need to get up.
	Yeah, you yeah, you guys do.
	You guys absolutely need to get on TikTok.
	And you know, it's I know it's communist, I know it's communist, but like so is so is every other fucking social media platform.
	So fuck you guys.
	It's been a it's been really weird for us because I know you you DM'd me and you're like, how are you getting like our view to subscriber ratio is actually really well?
	It's really good, yeah.
	Yeah, and um, I think it's like 50% almost.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	Like we're getting consistent now above 500 views per episode, and we have about a uh one and a half thousand and five hundred is our are low, like so like usually right the past couple weeks and the past couple episodes we've been getting above a lot of.
	Are you guys on Spotify and everything too?
	Yeah, we're we now are, yeah.
	Only as of maybe two weeks ago.
	I yeah, I started getting the audio on Anchor.
	So we've been on Spotify since then.
	ITunes took like an extra week.
	Yeah, more than a lot of people.
	Yeah, Google, I'm pretty sure we're on Google now.
	I'm I don't know, I said check my own.
	You guys use Anchor?
	Is that what you guys used?
	Anchor, yeah.
	I used yeah, I like it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you, but the reason I asked you because I I wonder if I wonder if the reason that I struggle with YouTube views.
	Because I get a lot of views on like the Twitter content, but I I feel like my all the content is so diversified.
	Like I'll have a hundred people listen on Spotify and maybe 50 people on Apple, and then you know, 150 people on YouTube.
	So if you add them all up together, it's a it's a nice number, but it's since it's diversified, it makes kind of all the platforms look weak.
	It's a weird thing because we had people asking because we were uh just going live on YouTube.
	It was just because we want to do a live show, get people on, have fun with them live, let the audience interact with us.
	And then people were asking, hey, we really like we don't either we don't have YouTube premiums, so we want to listen to a podcast, you know, audio.
	And so we're like, okay, we'll get on those other things so you can listen to it.
	I don't even know what our numbers are for the audio only.
	But uh but it's just a weird thing.
	I think we're probably so fucking bad.
	I bet they tell you I bet I think nobody even fucking listening except maybe like family.
	I think they're over.
	I hope my family doesn't listen to them.
	I'm like, is my wife watching?
	Jesus Christ.
	Yeah, the Spotify numbers I think are alright, but uh like the numbers are definitely on YouTube, which we are kind of a video visual show, which we have been.
	We've been a live stream show, and I think one of the other things when we started is because we were in the tower gang group chat, which was like uh maxed out.
	It was what, like 70 minutes, it was up to almost 70 people.
	A bunch of them were just watching our show like right away.
	So we had a fan base just from out of that right away, and that's what I was about to say.
	We're friends with them, so yeah.
	Yeah, we were legit friends with these people, and then we kind of created like this community, and then as it got bigger, this community kind of got bigger with it to where like now it's just like okay, on Monday nights, this is where we hang out.
	Like we're it's not it's not necessarily I go here to be entertainment, I go here because I'm hanging out with my friends.
	It's like we're all going out to a bar.
	These guys are talking, we're talking in the comments, and we interact together, and I get to have a little bit of fun on my Monday nights or Wednesday nights.
	Yeah, we have to maybe that's part of the maybe that's something I need to do.
	Maybe I need to do a consistent schedule because I have like three nights a week that I like to, you know, I think that might be the problem is that I'm not catching the same audience at a convenient time.
	And so, you know, like your Monday night crowd is always available on Monday nights, you know.
	And like Timpool, he does his podcast every night at the same time, and you can either make it or you can't.
	And so mine's like random because I I cater to the guests so much because the guests are all out of my league.
	And so I'm like, whenever you can do it, man, you know.
	Right.
	Well, we do a little we do a little bit of that, but it's always been either a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday for us, right?
	But then when we do like a Tuesday or Wednesday, we usually also do the Monday show, and then it's like, hey, we're doing two episodes this week, and like our big guests are actually Wednesday shows, and we just did that as a second show on that week, and people obviously showed up for those too.
	It's been really weird too, because we've just been getting, I mean, over the literally the past couple days has been just uh hammered with people saying, Can we come on the show?
	Or like we'll just randomly put out a hey, you want to come on?
	Yeah, sure.
	And we're like, oh okay, we just shot our shot and we got it.
	Like it's so weird sometimes.
	All on at once, man.
	Major cluster.
	We literally the most we've had, uh we had what eight, seven or eight on at one point, and that was just like I mean, it was us, uh all of us that were part of it.
	So me, Toad, Clint, uh, from Liberty Lock Pod, Nick Ashley.
	Next time you do that, next time you do that, just get some like um some footage of AOC on like a zoom call and mute it and put her in one of the slots.
	So that is a great bit, and we're definitely stealing that.
	Yeah, do it.
	Yeah, you can yeah, totally steal the idea, but just say this is this is Chase Geyser's brilliant idea.
	I think we actually had nine on that episode because we had um it was during Freedom Fest, and Reed, Coverdale, and Clint from Liberty Lockdown actually got into that.
	They jumped on the stream wearing like the same thing from the same hotel room.
	So now we just say that they're in a gay relationship.
	That's where that came from.
	Yeah, that's where it came from.
	It's also did you see the episode I did with Reed where I fucking got the stash in the overalls?
	Oh no, that's a stuff.
	I I was on his I was on his show and I spent 35 bucks on Amazon and I got the Reed Coverdale costume.
	And I just showed you showed up dressing.
	It was a while awesome a few weeks ago.
	You should check it out.
	It's pretty funny.
	Yeah.
	I think I thought it was funnier than anybody else, but it's worth it.
	I think it's funny.
	Did you wet your hair?
	Did you wet your hair like super wet, made yourself look like uh you just got out of the shower?
	Yeah, I I had just I had the fucking Dickies, you know, denim overalls, and then I and then I did like I bought them you know the the mustache.
	It was a little bit walrus, you know, but it's it was sort of like a it was like a it was like a red dead read coverdale mashup.
	Hell yeah, yeah, dude.
	What's also been weird is the um the weird amount of and I'm literally not trying to brag, but like the weird amount of pull we have within like the Liberty community on Twitter to where like you know Nick Ashley goes on Fake Itarians and then becomes a meme and it just like takes over Twitter for like a weekend, and then like I I get in I get some beef with the journo bitch, and then that becomes like Twitter like for a weekend, and then I think uh Jose Gallison started a thing.
	I don't know if you know who Nick Star Work is.
	I know who Nick Star Work is.
	He's a fucking asshole that's got he's pictured in front of like a dork column.
	Yes, absolutely anybody pictured in front of a Greco Roman column is a fucking bitch.
	Jose started the thing of hashtag block star work and it got like huge traction.
	They got like all these like liberty like um I mean Dave Smith commented on it, uh Tom Woods blocked him.
	And it just like Nick Star Wars lost.
	That'll fuck with his uh his reach.
	That'll fuck with his reach because Twitter will see so many people blocked him and they'll say this person's negative, nobody likes him, and they won't show his tweets to anybody, maybe.
	Yeah, he's still I think has like 14,000 followers, and somebody posted one of his tweets from today, and it had like four likes in what was it in five hours or something?
	Yeah, it was like something crazy.
	Dude, I'm so vain.
	I delete my tweets if they don't get enough engagement in the first five minutes.
	I've done it, man.
	I don't know.
	I got to.
	I have to because when I reach out to guests, I don't want them to check me out and see tweets that aren't getting engagement.
	So like only all only the only the greatest hits are are live.
	You know I just I literally hope that people just when they turn me on, they actually think I'm Dave Smith, and that's my only thing.
	That's the only reason.
	And it's really funny.
	Yeah.
	Even Dave thought you were him.
	He had a fucking existential crisis.
	Which is uh by the way, I want to go back to the thing about like the clips we put out.
	We we just now started putting out clips, and it's just because one of our followers, which is a an actual IRL friend of mine, was like, hey, I'll I'll do some clips for you.
	And so we were starting to put them out, which I think that'll like you said, I think that's gonna help get reach or something.
	Because I mean, just uh there's we we get a part of the podcast that's actually pretty good, a little bit, it's like you know, 30 seconds to a minute, and it's we think it's really funny, and it might pop somewhere.
	So do more.
	Yeah, even before that there were clips coming out.
	Like there was one like Jermaine Vincent, who's you know, one of our uh followers mutual on Twitter.
	He uh he posted one that was uh from the episode that you were talking about, I think where nine of us came on and uh it was the one with Josh Smith and we were basically what what did we say?
	I think we said that he was a black guy because he has seven kids, and then Cliff was like, oh, but he takes good care of him, so he's not black or something like that.
	That clip went viral, and uh think Terry just picked it up.
	This is why I think this is part of the reason why Nick went on their show, right?
	Or or they at least hammered him about it on their show.
	Yeah, because they were like, You're a racist from this episode.
	Like they had the clips.
	Clint is not a racist.
	They were saying that Nick was for uh uh Nick's a racist because he's just because he's standing in front of a column of his profile picture.
	That's that's you're you're Nick.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Star Wars.
	Star Wars got all the all the telltale signs of a knicker.
	He's our kicker.
	Well, the other thing about that.
	And I by the way, by the way, YouTube algorithm, that's N I C K E R. They didn't even watch the rest of that episode because it became a thing where Nick was in a hotel room and Josh was making fun of him for having bad audio and sounding like uh uh what were the the radio guys from like the nineteen twenties or whatever?
	Yeah.
	Tin Pan Alley.
	The transatlantic accent, like this just in.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, so Nick started doing that and pretending to be like super racist.
	And nobody picked up on that because nobody watched like a three-hour episode.
	It was three hours.
	Yeah.
	Man, I wonder if it would get banned if we did like a video where all we did was talk about the inferiority of white people.
	Do you think that if we just target, if we got as white people got on.
	I think they posted on BuzzFeed last week.
	What's that?
	I said, I think they talked about that BuzzFeed last week, man.
	I think we're good.
	What if it was white women, though?
	Because that's, we've had a couple other things that have gone viral because it's been.
	Hashtag repeal the 19th.
	Hashtag repeal the 19th.
	Hashtag white women must be stopped.
	Right.
	White women must be stopped has become like associated with Tower of Power Hour because of Nick originally saying it.
	Nick Ashley originally saying it somewhere.
	And then we've said it on the show maybe too many times at this point.
	But it's kind of become, you know, a catchphrase.
	We should start.
	We should start like a.
	We should start a libertarian hashtag campaign.
	Like libertarian women come first.
	C-U-M.
	It's just like, just like, just like write it on like the whole, like the, like the macho, like, hey, like the only real men are libertarians kind of thing.
	I'm not even a fucking libertarian, but I pretty much am.
	I might as well be.
	We're trying to, we're trying to get on Angela McArdle.
	And that was, we were making jokes today about this, how we're going to fuck with her about being a woman.
	and libertarians just like by the way so how did you get to libertarianism if you can't even read you know you're not allowed to read the libertarian modes so do you guys use StreamYard or Restream or neither StreamYard.
	So I switched to restream um and uh they're pretty much the same there's just a couple of differences but one thing and I fucking froze again as I'm like advocating this new platform.
	Look at that look at that I seriously it looks like an it looks like an Enya music video looks about you're about to make us make love to that mic man.
	Yeah.
	Libertarian women come first.
	But what you can do on Restream is you can actually have pre-recorded videos and you can run them live.
	So it shows like it's live.
	And what I've been wanting to do, but I haven't had the time to do it, is I want to find a webcam Zoom call so badly of Trump.
	And I want to cut it up in such a way that it's not obvious that it's fake.
	And I want to pre-record like a 30-minute podcast where it looks like he's my guest.
	and I want to fucking run it live.
	live off of restream so people see that Trump is live on Twitter.
	It would take work it would take work but it would be I think it's one day's worse I think it's one day's work the hardest part is is whether or not the the source material exists.
	You know if the source material exists then then it's it's all good.
	But uh if it doesn't then that's a problem but I there's gotta be some some recorded zoom footage of him even before he was president.
	There's gotta be some zoom call recorded of him have you found it weird that he hasn't like gone on podcast or gone on like anything like I I I thought like once he was going to be out of president he was going to be like doing tell alls on fucking I don't know Joe Rogan what like what if he has and we just don't know what if he has this honestly good.
	Dude that's actually I didn't think about that what if he's been on Joe Rogan and we just never know about it.
	Like he just even Spotify's like no nah son you're not paid you a hundred million dollars but you're not getting that that could be the case is he like is is he allowed on any platform right now the Mandarins I don't think he's like in allowed to have his own account but he's he doesn't even do gab though like he doesn't even do the other platforms.
	I think he knows that that's a beta move for him to be like, fuck you, Twitter, I'm on gas.
	I think he knows that's a beta move and I think he just won't do it.
	He's like, you know what?
	Fuck you.
	If you don't want me, I don't want you either.
	But I really thought he would be out there.
	I thought a guy like him who's been on TV for fucking 20 years and before that...
	He needs to be on fucking MySpace, bro.
	He needs to get MySpace and just fucking off that shit.
	Bring it back.
	I just expected him to have his top eight.
	I just expected him to build his own network because he obviously has the connections and the money to do that.
	Well, he did, remember?
	And it became just a blog of just him putting out stupid...
	like basically his tweets on a blog and that's what he did make a social media website but it just blows it up why isn't that none of these platforms can none of these alternative platforms?
	Why is it that like none of them can do it right?
	Like Twitter is so simple.
	Why doesn't somebody just clone Twitter and just say, hey, we our terms of service are different, everything else is the same.
	Like they they they gotta screw it up with like this fucking getter stuff.
	It was so bad.
	Gab is terrible.
	It's like a mess on there.
	Why doesn't somebody just parlor sucks?
	It's like everybody wants another platform, but like, and you don't have to reinvent the wheel.
	There's like five of them that have been really successful.
	Just clone one of them.
	I mean, how much IP get in the way, though.
	I was about to ask about.
	Yeah.
	Because I mean it's all the proprietary stuff you can't clone, but you can clone the interface pretty much, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, twit Twitter is not that I mean, it's very simple.
	It is literally just like text.
	It's basically text.
	It's not like Instagram where you have to worry about, you know, you have to do a lot of video, a lot of um like uh pictures and then the captions and the it's literally just text.
	That's all it is, and then maybe some pictures and videos, but it feels like it would be very simple because Twitter's super simple.
	It's honestly it's honestly hasn't grown very much besides getting video and uh pictures since Twitter started.
	Like it literally hasn't tried to DM on Twitter, their group chats are terrible.
	Like we have multiple group chats on there, and there it's the worst like social media for group chatting, but we can we continue to do it.
	Yeah, but it's really good for like sending and receiving dick pics, you know, which I literally like that.
	So I'm pretty sure they have full uncompressed dick pics, so I mean it's yeah, full length.
	You don't have to worry about any any compression at all.
	That's that's why we're on the show right now.
	So that's the full size, baby.
	Don't you worry.
	Who was a comedian?
	I can't remember who it was, but it's like joking about sending dick pics and buying like the mini popcans so that you could take the picture of his dick assist so it looks huge.
	No, I don't know, I don't remember.
	It sounds familiar, but I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I can't remember who it was, man.
	It was like I can't remember the stand up.
	I wish I could.
	I I I wish I was better about like associating bits with the correct comedian because I feel so bad like using their joke and then like not not being able to link it back to the mill.
	I don't think it was Bill Burroughs, somebody fucking hilarious, though.
	Nah, IP doesn't exist, bro.
	Just steal all the jokes, it's fine.
	No one knows.
	Yeah.
	That's a good thing.
	There's so many times I'll watch like uh Kill Tony.
	Uh I don't know if you watch Kill Tony at all.
	It's a really funny I I love that show, but it's basically like they just have on they have on new comedians and they do one minute of comedy, and most of them suck ass.
	But like every once in a while there'll be a really good one, and then they'll tell a joke that is phenomenal, and I'm like, I could seal this joke and nobody would know.
	I could put it on Twitter, nobody would beat anyone, but I always feel bad.
	I'm like, no, I'm not gonna do that to the city.
	Are you stand-up comedian, Fat Dave?
	Yeah, no, I'm not a stand-up comedian.
	I I feel like anybody could put together a hot minute.
	Like, who couldn't put together a 60 second?
	I'm telling you, watch watch the show.
	It's called Kill Tony.
	It's with uh Tony Hinchcliffe, who's uh who's a comedian, and he has a bunch, he has uh Brian Red Van is with him.
	Yeah, and literally people come up and they do one minute.
	And I mean, I can come up with shit out of my ass, and I'm not a comedian by any means.
	Like, I I don't know, like like you ever you ever change you ever you ever change your mom's name to stepmom and your phone, so when you're watching Pornhub and you get a text, it's hot.
	That's such a great show.
	That is good.
	It's not that fucking hard for 60 seconds, you know, an hour is hard.
	Maybe it's not that hard.
	Maybe most people are just really retarded.
	I don't know, like you think Jesus Christ sacrificed himself?
	Hell, three hours on the cross to be king of the universe for all of eternity.
	That's not a sacrifice, that's a long-term investment.
	I've seen people go through hell for three hours for a fucking bumper sticker.
	Like seriously on the cross for three hours to be king of the universe for all of eternity.
	Like, I mean, it would suck, but fuck, worth it.
	Hashtag worth it.
	I mean, most people, I mean, I feel like that's some people's fetish by now, just like nail me to the cross, baby.
	Yeah, like can you imagine if Jesus had a uh BDSM?
	That's the stage after pedophilia.
	What is what if Jesus had a BDSM fetish and he just has a boner up on the cross?
	He just up there just full staffing it.
	Like dude, dude, I thought about I thought about because you it's funny.
	If you look at the laws, in most cities, you can get a parade for like an astronomically small fee.
	Like in small towns, you can like have a parade.
	Most cities have legislation where you can file an application for a parade, you pay like a $500 fee, they'll give you the fucking cops, they'll give you like all the stuff you need for a parade, and you can just like do one, right?
	So nobody'll show up, but you can do it.
	And I wanted to do and this is so fucking offensive.
	But I wanted I had this like kind of like uh Borat type idea for a parade where you like put somebody uh you put Jesus on the cross for the parade, and but he's like just waving like from his wrists, you know.
	Like I thought you were gonna say I thought you were gonna say just do do it, but so have Jesus on the cross, but it's actually a uh advertisement for a gay strip strip bar, like a gay strip club, and then just have like other dudes just like but it's like they're using Jesus Cross as a pole and they're pole dancing on it, and that just do it in Midwest.
	Do it in fucking like Idaho and just watch them lose their shit.
	Like that would be so bad and so funny.
	But wouldn't uh I don't know, like because he's like he's nailed to the cross, wouldn't he have to be nailed to it with dicks and says their dicks penetrating his animals or something?
	Dude dildos, like you still don't I should not have brought this shit out of it.
	I feel bad, man.
	I'm like, and I'm not even a religious, but man, he was such a nice guy.
	It's really too bad what happened to him.
	I'm a Christian, I just don't give a shit about jokes, man.
	Just say whatever you want to do.
	I know I'm gonna be too much.
	I grew up Christian, but I like I never understood this whole like and if he if he's not laughing, then he's not worth it.
	I can't remember who I listened to.
	I can't was it I think it was uh uh Clint did a um camera who it was.
	Someone did a live stream and I'll listen to it.
	It's like, oh no, it was Anglo Libertarian, I'll I'll shout him out.
	He's a great pot and great show on YouTube.
	And he said, like um, if I if I'm good all my life and I still go to hell, then maybe heaven wasn't worth it.
	It's just like if we're getting divorced like I'm literally too good all my life.
	I'm a good guy, and I still go to hell, then I mean at some point you gotta catch you gotta uh see how much it's worth it or not to actually be that good.
	So you know, I was thinking I I was thinking about I've I've been thinking a lot about religion lately given what's going on in uh fucking Afghanistan and just radical Islam.
	And you know how like anytime you criticize Islam in any way, uh you immediately get you know called by the left uh an Islamophobe, right?
	That's like yeah, that's like the big one, right?
	You're a fucking bigot, you're an Islamophobe.
	And I'm thinking to myself, like, all right, so you're not a Muslim, but you're calling me an Islamophobe.
	Why aren't you a Muslim?
	Like, how does this play out?
	And like like you don't you you don't you don't believe like that Muhammad was literally a prophet, right?
	So therefore you believe that he was fucking lying.
	And then on top of that, you believe that everyone who believes him is either dumb enough or ignorant enough to believe that lie, even thousands of years later, right?
	So you basically think that everyone who's Muslim is fucking retarded or or just totally caught in a con by a fucking lying evil person.
	You're not Islamophobia, yeah, but yeah, you're lying to yourself, but you're not Islamophobic and I am.
	Like, hey, fuck you.
	You know, like if you're like the only way not to be Islamophobic is to be a Muslim.
	Like, if you think about it, like I'm I'm Same with homophobic.
	I'm just gonna say you don't know, I don't know if this argument was.
	So yeah, yeah, you call me homophobe, but like would you like to suck another man's dick?
	Like, no, like do you think that's disgusting?
	Like the idea of that is just appalling to you?
	Like, yeah, like you're a fucking homophobe, bro, because you're not gay.
	You're you're a transphobe if you don't fuck a tranny so no, you're a transphobe if you're literally not a tranny.
	If you literally don't slice your bitches, you're right, it's even more extreme than that.
	You're right.
	I'm super straight, bro.
	Super straight.
	It's such a weird thing.
	Like you cannot they're like, I guess this is the overton window, technically, of like if it is outside of this, what we've said is acceptable, then you are a phobe answer whatever you want before that, and you can no longer talk.
	Like it's such a weird thing where they're just like you can't talk about how Muslims, like how like Mohammed was technically married to like what a 13-year-old, or he was like raving like things like that.
	I think he was things were different.
	If it bleeds, it leads.
	I was gonna say, I think you're actually uh uh thinking of Gandhi, but I'm not sure.
	Gandhi's like bang bang uh uh teens prepared.
	Yeah, never never look up these uh these people, especially if they lived pre, I don't know, nineteen ninety.
	Like, never look them up because they most likely had sex with underwed women.
	Yeah, but like he was still right about you know British colonialism.
	Like who you know, like if Hitler says two plus two is four, he's right.
	That's what I'm saying.
	What 100% like I don't like it's so weird.
	Like I can separate art from the artists and I can separate these people's bad takes from their good takes.
	Like I I can I can look at I mean I mean anybody.
	I mean there's tons of people that have been canceled for their art.
	Yeah like when Amy Schumer tells a good joke, I'll laugh when it happens at some point I don't know when that's gonna happen, but if she does I'll laugh it's that old joke of um when A I like how she fucking remember they had I didn't mean to interrupt you man,
	but could you believe the fact that they had to fucking totally change the Netflix rating system because she got trolled so hard on that the last it has been totally yeah it happened right at the same time.
	So I had the five star system.
	Yeah I remember five star system and then like it literally got like a half a star.
	I think it was zero honestly it's better now though.
	The rating system is better now.
	I like the 86% match the 95% I like the system they have better now but they definitely changed it because of Amy Schumer.
	Oh they've also just like they just got all your metadata from fucking Twitter and Instagram and everything and they're just like and they're just like oh yeah you you you'll love fucking um oh what's that um what was that little kid's special I was just gonna make a joke about it too I forgot the name of it.
	Cutties You're gonna love cuties you motherfucker you weird bitch.
	Yeah 95% match I think they still give me like a 19% match on I'm like fuck you man.
	So you're you're only 19% pet?
	It's still way too high.
	No I'm gonna have to throw because that's the only thing I'm attracted to so I actually watched the movies.
	I I had to watch it just like comment on it.
	I was like I can't comment on it if I haven't actually seen it.
	So I don't know I've you know Jeffrey MC was such a racist man he only screwed around with white chicks.
	That's where I'm going to hell man.
	No or that's the uh or like uh fucking Bill Clinton is a racist because he only fucked a white chick in the Oval Office.
	he didn't like do kamala harris at all yeah why didn't yeah why didn't you take advantage of the black intern bill you fucking exactly well because she was she was too busy with a different slick willy at the time and she's not black so but by the way i actually know right i did actually i still i made the joke because i made a joke on twitter one time of like um monica lewinski must look at uh kamala harris and be like man i sucked a dick and
	all I got was a spot in my dress and she sucks a dick and she she gets vice president like uh and I told that to one of my like in real life friends and they were just like what do you mean?
	That's kind of racist and I was just like you don't under like you don't understand Kamala Harris literally like had sex with this one guy in California and that's how she started political career.
	Yeah Willie Brown's like I don't think that happened I'm like it happened like it's not yeah I get the minute I mention it yeah I mentioned that on Twitter it's not even a conspiracy it's like it's like some well documented shit.
	And that dude that Willie Brown dude is like so cool about it.
	He's like you know he literally he looked yeah he makes it he's like yeah he's cool about it it's that's how you knew it man you run into it you gotta run through this form not away from it like you know like how did I just yeah yeah she was 18 she sent me her tits like like a self and so I sent her back an application.
	That's how it works.
	Yeah yeah well this is actually supposed to notice her how we've kind of like done it for a podcast of like anytime there is a controversy we don't back down at all.
	We're just like don't apologize we're just like yeah we said it and we think it's funny and fuck you and like it's been good for us because usually like if you say you're sorry it's kind of like that lawyer thing of like don't admit uh don't if you and say you're sorry don't incriminate yourself yeah you sell it for it's technically an admission of guilt and if you're guilty then you Technically did something bad.
	So if you just don't say you're sorry and you just double down on it, it's really hard to tell it's really hard to get onto somebody.
	So I wonder if that would be like a good like um would that be like a good marketing strategy for for guys like us.
	Like let's say, for example, like let's say you guys make a like a podcast and like for a five minute segment of that podcast, you just totally berate AOC.
	Okay.
	And let's just say hypothetically, and then you make like this fake fucking uh apology video where you're like, hey, we just wanted to say that we're both and like you could even do it like super cheesy, where like you like you like finish each other's sentences and shit.
	It's like pre scripted.
	You know, we're so sorry that we called AOC a fucking whore on our podcast.
	It was totally you know, it's just like redo it and then try to make the apology go viral.
	You know, so that's linked back to the original content.
	That's technically like the um it's kind of has that same vibe as that one guy I mentioned this I think on our last podcast.
	There's uh that one guy that uh went up to Matt Gates and he had like all this Trump stuff on in a MAGA hat, and he was like, dude, I totally don't think you're a pedo, bro.
	Everybody, everybody's saying about you is totally wrong.
	You're not a pedophile.
	No one's gonna believe that, bro.
	You're not a bad thing.
	Was he seriously?
	Oh, he was trolling him so hard.
	And it he was just like, I'm your biggest fan, and I know you're not a pedophile.
	And he just said it and it was filmed, it was so great.
	I was like, that's so good.
	So you think you think you think Gates did that shit?
	I the more that comes out, the weird it there's so much weird stuff about it, and that that's he hasn't been arrested yet, though.
	Like you'd think he'd be fucked because the FBI will arrest you for for being innocent.
	I just kept I thought they said they were they're gonna be a good thing.
	Yeah, and they're also he's a Republican congressman.
	It's not like they're gonna be you know light-handed on him a little bit.
	Right.
	I just I mixed feelings about it.
	I have mixed feelings too because it's really shady, especially the guy that he was doing all that stuff with, the uh that did get arrested and is is in jail right now.
	That dude's gonna be a good one.
	Yeah, but they get the guy like a plea deal.
	So, like, so how can you fucking believe anything he says?
	You know, he'd be just trying to fucking get a deal to you know, for a while.
	But that's true, yeah.
	Yeah, which is why three deals are yeah, pretty bad for that reason.
	Yeah, if you're innocent, you should not legally be allowed to plea, because in my in my opinion, that is like perjury.
	Yeah, yeah.
	How is a plea deal not perjury if you're innocent?
	Yeah, they're literally incentivizing you to lie, right?
	Because it's like you're either gonna under oath.
	Yeah, you're either gonna stand trial and potentially get yeah, some ridiculous sentence, whatever it would be, life, death penalty, depending on what the crime was, or you can plea and you're guaranteed 20 years or whatever.
	It's like, well, whatever.
	Well, think about it, Fed Dave.
	You got a wife, you got a kid, right, Dave?
	I got a wife, I don't have a kid yet.
	Okay, let's just say hypothetically you do.
	I just had a baby this year.
	Let's say that you're facing let's thanks, man.
	Let's let's say you're facing 15 years in prison, you're innocent, and you get two years if you plead.
	I mean, it's when you have a family, that becomes very tempting.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like I wonder it's it's such a it's a very um thing very I wouldn't do it.
	I don't think I would do it, but it would be very hard decision.
	I think I would be able to do that.
	It also depends on like saying I'm doing well, I think it depends on what they're saying I was doing.
	They were just like, by the way, we haven't pedo charges.
	If you plea, you get two years, or you can go it's like sure.
	Well, let's say it's let's say it's insider trading, you know, something nobody cares if you actually did.
	Let's say it's yes, I take the plea.
	I take the plea 100%.
	Yeah.
	For two years versus, dude, I don't think I would plea.
	I don't think I would plea on a fucking jaywalking charge.
	I'd be like, no, I didn't fucking do it.
	That's true.
	You know, I guess there's like I guess there's two different stats of this because I think uh so Michael Malice and uh three hots in a cot, maybe every day.
	Michael Malison Tim Pool talked about this kind of on their show about like should you fight against the system or should you just kind of like take it because I mean they're gonna it's the force their will on you to spite it.
	So and he was a part of the thing of like I guess because he grew up in Russia of you just gotta take it and then just I mean just kind of live to fight another day, and the Tim Pool was like, No, you fucking fight it every time.
	And and so there's some shit.
	Well, I was talking to somebody about that on my podcast the other day.
	It's like listen, like, do you do you martyr yourself on Twitter and say shit that you know is gonna get you banned?
	Or do you do you self-censor in and like the hope that you can have more of an influence over a longer period of time by not being deplatformed?
	You know, that's like we we face that every day, I guess in some small way.
	But I feel like with the criminal justice system, the the the repercussions are so devastating that it's it's it's hard to it's hard to like you know play the game.
	Dude, you're talking to a guy that's actually been actually been doxxed and lost his job because of shit he said on Twitter so and I still like oh yeah 100% yeah what happened man I literally uh so um I've told the story a lot of times but I mean I've always told it no no it's fine I I would I like I like I like telling it because it is like it's kind of a a crazy thing that can happen to people and uh so like this is whenever I did have uh before Fat Dave I had like my it was a personal account and uh there was a Twitter story like Sports Center
	posted a story about a hockey player that died because someone hit a hockey puck into the back of this head and so me being the fucking yeah being the fucking shit poster I am I said hey man just walk it off you'll be fine and oh fucking Clint did it did that on Abbott the other day.
	I couldn't fucking believe that did you see Clint Abbott's in a wheelchair.
	Yeah it was something it was something about that yeah I saw that so and so I said that to the I said it to this guy and then I get all of these fucking um hockey lovers in in my mentions just teammates shit like that.
	It wasn't even teammates it was just these dudes that I mean just dudes fucking from Canada or something and I oh I mean and they're and they're trying to be like terrible weird because it was a Russian hockey player I thought but it was it was a Russian hockey player but he played in Canada.
	and I um and like they would they would say you're terrible and I would just I mean I would just uh shit post and troll them right after that I'd be like hey man I can't believe this guy like can you imagine getting murked by a fucking piece of rubber I was like wouldn't it be me and I was like uh that's hilarious obviously you're kidding but yeah I could see how people would be you know only the family though like only the family and like the people who knew him should give a shit It was literally random people.
	It was literally random people.
	they were getting really upset and then this one guy like gets really mad and he goes like i'm gonna ruin your life i'm gonna do all this stuff and i was just like have that man go ahead he meant it and they and they looked me up they they got my name i think what they did was they reverse image search my profile picture found my facebook or whatever and then for my facebook found and linked in and they found my work and i worked at that time i'm a civil engineer and at that time they've they i worked for a uh pretty
	big like international company and they found it they started tweeting at them and they and they were tweeting at them um like yeah fuck you monsanto fire them right and they would literally they that's what they did they they found other they they would dig up old tweets of like out of context tweets and be like okay send that to him and they would so how was the conversation with your manager?
	How was the conversation I actually heard it I was there.
	You were not there you fucking no with your with your manager I was there on Discord.
	That wasn't my manager.
	I don't think we understand that no I never had my manager on there.
	What who was that then?
	Probably like a fr I don't know.
	It wasn't my manager that but but I did so I I so my uh I and actually when I was getting doxxed I I messaged my boss like right away and said hey this is happening right now.
	I'm just gonna let you know get ahead of it.
	This is what they're saying.
	And so, and he said, okay, just come into work tomorrow.
	We'll talk about it.
	And so came into work and then like, they apparently like this got up to HR or whatever.
	They called.
	And at that time, I like, I worked in a branch of an office.
	The main office was in Virginia.
	I'm down in Alabama.
	And they, so they, my boss came, the business manager of that office came to me and said, hey, okay.
	So first of all, what the fuck?
	Don't what you fucking do.
	You idiot.
	I was just like, yeah, you know, I just, I kind of do.
	this I like get on Twitter and I'm I'm an idiot on there and I do all this carried away yeah yeah I get carried away and he was just like okay well we're putting on you on a like a suspension till like Friday this is like a Wednesday he said till Friday because he made a joke about a hockey player dying from a hockey puck.
	So there was one so then they like I said they they started uh going through my old tweets and they found like they found like the ones ones they found some ones like like either towers or something super out of context.
	So I'll tell you what it what what it was because this is it's actually pretty bad if you see it out of context.
	So me and another guy like a guy I knew we were uh arguing about um morale like a Twitter friend.
	I knew the guy, we had talked, and he was basically, I don't know if you know who Max Sterner is, but he was a Sterner guy.
	Basically, it means that, you know what Mike's right is?
	Mike's right.
	So basically, you don't have...
	Like utilitarian?
	So whoever has the strength to conquer an area has the right to occupy it?
	Yes, basically that on an individual level.
	You don't have rights unless what you can enforce your will on others to take.
	That's your right.
	So that's like the argument against the Native Americans, right?
	It's like, hey, we conquered it.
	It's ours kind of shit.
	Yeah, basically.
	So it's like, well, I mean...
	guess you weren't strong enough to enforce your property rights so now it's our property so basically right I know it it and that and so you know well I mix the it makes the Holocaust seem way worse you know way way less worse I mean exactly so this is the thing that my so these are the things I bring up or like a thing that I always bring up when I talk about it is just like well then a pedophile like his if he can enforce his will on a child therefore that's his right to do that.
	out of context you're fine and out of context I said that you were actually making the argument against that yeah and I was being totally I was using an ad absurdum argument and saying this look at this this is what you're saying right now and you start bringing Latin into the fucking argument with your boss and I actually did say ad absurdum to my boss it's reductio ad absurdum whatever this is actually an ad hominem attack that's a foul that's a
	fallacy I'm an anarchist and they did actually clip just that because they didn't want to show the replies because if you read the replies the context is easy to see and so that gets clipped and my boss is like what about this one and I was just like dude I'm telling you that's not what I mean but like if you put that up and they're worried about their clients saying that you hired a guy that thinks pedophiles have the right to fuck children
	and so then you might as well be a Biden voter you know yeah that's what I should have argued I'd be like I'm just a Biden voter so that's all that would have got me fired from right now he's in a red state I'm in a very red state so they put you on suspension and they kept getting shit and they just decided hey we gotta cut you loose they didn't even keep getting shit the guy removed so we because I'm in a community of tower gangers the
	guy technically he doxed me on Twitter which is against Twitter's policy they so they doxed me they were messaging my wife and they were messaging my mom sending them shit and they put out my phone number they actually put out my work number not my regular phone number thank god and then they put out my like work address and stuff like that my work I think they may have may have put out my home address which I've moved since then but and they got taken down it
	was gone you could not find it like you couldn't find the pictures that they screenshot it and put up you couldn't find anything you could find people talking about it but you couldn't find it anymore and but the HR department apparently went up to the CEO of this company and he said no and by that time like I have no chance like I'm just I mean I'm an engineer one or something like that in a company of five you know five plus thousand people or whatever and the CEO's over I mean it's multi-million dollar company and
	and I talked to my boss and he was like hey man we fought for you we tried to keep you here we wanted you here but the good thing was they immediately got me into another job like immediate so I got into a different job within a couple days and nice funny thing is my next job maybe I shouldn't say this let's just say my next job was not as strict on what I can do online they do not give a fuck so that's pretty fun that's why I can do Tower Games so the Taliban basically yeah basically yeah yeah I'm not in the
	Taliban right now I'm in Afghanistan not in Alabama I work in remote
	remote yeah Sama Bin Laden was the first remote worker that guy is fucking fortune 500 CEO innovative innovator right there he actually had somebody just drop out of a plane through his roof the other day that's right the Kabul air uh skydiving club that's what I'm part of and also I'm I was gonna say I had the funniest fucking tweet ever that I I have so many tweets in my drafts that are I would immediately get me suspended and I screenshot.
	Send them to me.
	Send them to me and I will I will tweet them.
	I will tweet them.
	I'll send them to like but take me out of it though.
	Oh yeah, I'll take it.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I'll just pr I'll pretend it's mine.
	Like I made this up.
	But no, dude, it's it's kind of funny.
	Uh before you I know I interrupted you.
	I've said stuff.
	Sometimes it's hard with the little latency.
	I I said stuff on Twitter, and I'm just like, I'm getting banned.
	This is it.
	I called it I called a corporate journalist a retard.
	I've said the N-word on Twitter before.
	Nothing.
	Never got banned.
	I don't know what it is, but I've said some crazy shit and nothing.
	Dude, I haven't been banned yet since 2009.
	My account has been up.
	I think it's my original Twitter account.
	It's still up.
	I don't know.
	Like I think I'm gonna get banned for numerous things, and it hasn't happened yet.
	Weird.
	I think that's part of it too.
	Yeah, I think that is what it is.
	you have to like there was one tower where everybody in the tower got banned and it wasn't even like a very offensive tower it was because it was on this dude like Anti-Fash Gordon or something I think he has connections with Twitter or something because it was like insta-ban Gone.
	Like the entire tower.
	And it was mostly women because it was Lady Tower gang.
	So we were kind of like, eh, women don't know how to tower.
	Just like, yeah, whatever.
	I mean, I guess we cut our losses here.
	It's fine.
	But also, uh, wasn't the dude who doxed you uh like 15 or something living in his own.
	Oh, yeah, it was some kid, it was some fucking kid.
	Oh, yeah, because our community is so fun, they actually went and doxed him and so like they and they came to me and they said, Here's his information.
	Do you want us to go it out?
	I said, No, I'm not I'm not doxing people.
	Like, fuck that.
	I'm not gonna and I and I get really upset like juicy people dox.
	I think it's one of the worst things you can do because Well, what we should do is we should we should we should like create like uh if you if you updated like all the whitepages.com websites and stuff with with an address of somebody you actually hated, like so all the contact information is wrong, so that you when you get doxxed, they actually end up doxing like AOC.
	I always like the leftists are like show up at our house like with like you know bags of shit.
	Uh well it's it's just really I I just find it anything that we're you can take away someone's livelihood because of shit they said on Twitter or like just like words.
	It's just it's so reprehensible of me.
	It's scary and it's reprehensible that you that sells like you you won't just block I mean just block me.
	If you don't like what I say, just block me.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Honestly, or or give me shit back.
	I don't give a fuck either.
	I'll I'll I'll but don't like go after like my wife, because my wife didn't do anything.
	I said this shit.
	She's not a part of it.
	Don't go to the show.
	Should she shouldn't have married you, bro?
	She shouldn't have married you, bro.
	Yeah, she shouldn't have.
	She shouldn't have.
	Might make it right, bro.
	That's right.
	Honestly, I just took her uh one day and then she just one of those like caveman situations within the hair.
	So where can people follow you guys?
	Where can they find you?
	Uh I'm Fat Comic Dave on Twitter, and then also the uh the Tower Gang, uh the Tower Power Hour is Tower Gang Pod on Twitter, and then uh just Tower Power Hour on YouTube, uh Spotify, Google Podcast.
	I mean, all the shit where you can find uh podcasts.
	We do a show uh every Monday.
	Um or and coming up soon, we'll probably be going to two shows a week just because he has so many guests trying to get on so Monday, Wednesdays, or Monday, Tuesdays, or Tuesday, Wednesdays.
	It just depends.
	But yeah, we got a ton of coming up.
	Toad, I think you know more of the um the guest schedule.
	So if you want to give out some of the fun guests we have coming up.
	I do uh I can do that, and I'm at Anarcho Toad on Twitter, which I have right here.
	Um Tower Power our uh well, our upcoming show on Monday, I think we had our guests uh have to drop out.
	Uh so I think we were trying to schedule somebody in on that, or we might do like an AMA type of thing.
	We don't know yet on that one, I think.
	And upcoming after that, we got uh the following week, Thhoe Bishop and Neo Connor remover on.
	We got uh Justin O'Donnell coming up.
	Uh after that, we got he's fucking awesome.
	I love Justin O'Donnell.
	Nice.
	We got uh the Philosopher coming up after that.
	a whole bunch of people.
	A 9-11 special with, I think, a surprise guest.
	Not so surprised, but definitely someone that he actually just confirmed today, which is going to be really fun.
	But if we do say the name on here, it might cause this video to be removed from YouTube.
	A little RD action?
	A little RD action.
	You should get RD on there with Tony Schaefer at the same time.
	I don't think I've ever...
	I'll be honest.
	I never heard of Tony Schaefer.
	No, no problem.
	Tony Schaefer, he's got like 100,000 followers on Twitter.
	He's been on my podcast, I think, two or three times.
	He's awesome.
	He was one of the Intel guys that basically showed that we knew 9-11 was going to happen before it happened.
	And that was kind of his claim to fame.
	And then, I guess, I mean, is he in the same kind of boat as RD that he's been kind of removed from a lot of places?
	No, no.
	He hasn't...
	I think RD's problem is he's so anti-Israel and I don't think Tony's anti-Israel.
	You gotta call him T.S., man.
	Yeah.
	Tony's like on Fox and stuff all the time.
	I mean, he's kind of like a mainstream dude or a mainstream voice.
	I don't want to call him a mainstream dude because he definitely does not hold narrative congruent or parallel beliefs or views.
	but he's just kind of respected in the mainstream.
	That'd be awesome.
	Because we are doing...
	Because we are Tower Gang and our profile picture is of the Twin Towers.
	We are doing 9-11 special.
	Yeah, if you look at it, it's the Twin Towers and it says Tower Gang on it because we're fucking retards.
	Oh, man.
	That's amazing.
	You guys should Photoshop it so that it's the Twin Towers but they're like pancakes.
	We have a...
	We're working with Top Lobster a lot.
	He's a badass, dude.
	He is the fucking best.
	We're working with him on our Natal and we have a special one to do something really fun.
	So that one's going to be a great one and we're looking forward to that.
	Awesome.
	Well, thanks for coming on the show, man.
	I appreciate you guys both coming.
	You guys are fucking hilarious.
	You guys are hilarious.
	You got great insights and I really enjoyed this one quite a bit and we'll stay in touch.
	Let me know if you ever want to collaborate on anything.
	I want to do some of these hacks where we can edit some Trump videos and make it look like he's on podcasts and stuff.
	We have people...
	I mean, you're hilarious, man.
	Thanks.
	And we have other people that are just like, hey, we want to get something together where we get a lot of the really funny people and just have a round table.
	just bullshitting.
	I mean uh Adam Nutter is one that he's he's he really wants to get something like that so I mean we we'll definitely hit you up get you on our podcast but I mean it thanks for having us on man this was yeah well we should we should legit do something where we get like 10 people in in the same city like you guys could come to Austin or something and we could uh we could like what if we did like a real one like you know where we're all actually in the same room you know just like I don't know what like we could make it like an annual thing on January 6th.
	It'd be so awesome that is so great.
	I love it.
	Let's fucking do it.

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