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I solemnly ask of every man who hears this case to let his own mind pronounce a verdict upon it.
You have heard the testimony of the state's witnesses.
The confession of Peter Keating has made clear that Howard Rourke is a ruthless egoist who has destroyed Kirkland Holmes for his own selfish motive.
The issue which you are to decide is the crucial issue of our age.
Has man any right to exist if he refuses to serve society?
Let your verdict give us the answer.
The state rests.
The defense may proceed.
Your Honor, I shall call no witnesses.
This will be my testimony and my summation.
Take the oath.
Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, or nothing but the truth, so help you, God?
I do.
Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire.
He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light, but he left them a gift they had not conceived, and he lifted darkness off the earth.
Throughout the centuries, there were men who took first steps down new roads, armed with nothing but their own vision.
The great creators, the thinkers, the artists, the scientists, the inventors, stood alone against the men of their time.
Every new thought was opposed.
Every new invention was denounced.
But the men of unborrowed vision went ahead.
They fought, they suffered, and they paid, but they won.
No creator was prompted by a desire to please his brothers.
His brothers hated the gift he offered.
His truth was his only motive.
His work was his only goal.
His work, not those who used it.
His creation, not the benefits others derived from it.
The creation which gave form to his truth.
He held his truth above all things and against all men.
He went ahead whether others agreed with him or not, with his integrity as his only banner.
He served nothing and no one.
He lived for himself.
And only by living for himself was he able to achieve the things which are the glory of mankind.
Such is the nature of achievement.
Man cannot survive except through his mind.
He comes on earth unarmed.
His brain is his only weapon.
But the mind is an attribute of the individual.
There is no such thing as a collective brain.
The man who thinks must think and act on his own.
The reasoning mind cannot work under any form of compulsion.
It cannot be subordinated to the needs, opinions, or wishes of others.
It is not an object of sacrifice.
The creator stands on his own judgment.
The parasite follows the opinions of others.
The creator thinks.
The parasite copies.
The creator produces.
The parasite loots.
The creator's concern is the conquest of nature.
The parasite's concern is the conquest of man.
The creator requires independence.
He neither serves nor rules.
He deals with men by free exchange and voluntary choice.
The parasite seeks power.
He wants to bind all men together in common action and common slavery.
He claims that man is only a tool for the use of others.
That he must think as they think, act as they act, and live in selfless, joyless servitude to any need but his own.
Look at history.
Everything we have, every great achievement has come from the independent work of some independent mind.
Every horror and destruction came from attempts to force men into a herd of brainless, soulless robots without personal rights, without personal ambition, without will, hope, or dignity.
It is an ancient conflict.
It has another name.
The individual against the collective.
Our country, the noblest country in the history of men, was based on the principle of individualism, the principle of man's inalienable rights.
It was a country where a man was free to seek his own happiness, to gain and produce, not to give up and renounce, to prosper, not to starve, to achieve, not to plunder, to hold as his highest possession a sense of his personal value, and as his highest virtue, his self-respect.
Look at the results.
That is what the collectivists are now asking you to destroy as much of the earth has been destroyed.
I am an architect.
I know what is to come by the principle on which it is built.
We are approaching a world in which I cannot permit myself to live.
My ideas are my property.
They were taken from me by force, by breach of contract.
No appeal was left to me.
It was believed that my work belonged to others to do with as they pleased.
They had a claim upon me without my consent, that it was my duty to serve them without choice or reward.
Now you know why I dynamited Cortland.
I designed Cortland.
I made it possible.
I destroyed it.
chase geiser
Hey, hey, hey.
tim young
What's going on, man?
chase geiser
Not much.
How are you doing?
tim young
Hung over his shit from yesterday.
chase geiser
Well, it was cause for celebration.
tim young
It was, you know?
I just imagine like the founding fathers were drunk all the time, right?
unidentified
That's like the whole thing at that point.
chase geiser
I saw a meme this morning sent from a reliable friend of mine, though I don't know the veracity of the meme.
And it was the bar tab of the founding fathers.
I think either the night they signed the Declaration of Independence or some other relevant evening, and it was just astronomical.
tim young
Yeah, wasn't it like the equivalent of like $50,000 or something like that or something crazy?
chase geiser
I didn't see the price, but it was, I mean, it was an astronomical amount of bottles for the number of men that were drinking.
tim young
Well, they didn't have anything else delightful to drink.
It was just, it was whiskey or boiled water, not even boiled water.
chase geiser
Like mead.
tim young
Yeah.
chase geiser
So have you ever made mead or had a friend who made mead?
Because I have kind of a funny story about that.
tim young
I lived with dirty hipsters who produced it in a house.
Actually, I split a house with this couple in Austin when I lived in Austin for.
Oh, you're in Austin, aren't you?
chase geiser
Yes, sir.
tim young
So I used to live on the corner of East 7th and Lydia, the big house there that's now valued like God knows.
There was like a whole city thing about it.
Like the guy added like a museum to the back or some shit.
I don't know.
Wow.
I lived there when it was falling apart with these like two hipsters.
I mean, the thing looked like it could collapse at any day.
And it's right there in the middle of everything.
And the guy made mead.
And he's got a business now.
It's actually out there.
It's in the market in Austin, at least.
I forget what's called, though.
Oh, I'll have to check that out.
chase geiser
So you know those, you know those Livingston wine jugs that are that were like $15 at the grocery store.
It's like a big jug of the cheapest, most terrible wine you could ever buy.
Yes.
So when I was in college, we used to buy those jugs and then pour them into regular water or wine bottles.
So it looked like we had real wine at parties.
And my roommate, Stephen, was like, hey, are you going to use this jug?
I'm like, no, you can have it.
And he makes mead with it, right?
And he puts it in the cabinet.
unidentified
Weeks go by and all of a sudden, boom!
Honey, exploded everywhere.
chase geiser
Like if I was standing by that cabinet, I would have probably died.
He's like, oh, I forgot to burp it.
tim young
So the place, while you were talking, I was on my computer figuring out.
It's called Meridian Hive.
chase geiser
Okay.
I'll have to check it out.
tim young
And yeah, it was started by this guy and his dirty girlfriend.
Like he's a dirty hipster and his dirty girlfriend.
I mean, they were older than me.
I mean, they're like probably mid-50s now or close to like low 50s.
And yeah.
chase geiser
So was he making mead when you lived there?
unidentified
Yep.
tim young
And he was like a national judge for it.
And I don't think I had a single pour of it while I was there.
I didn't give a shit.
And then apparently after I left, he started making cheese there, which I was like, Jesus Christ.
Like, I just cannot imagine living in a house with like cheese being made.
That's a whole nother level of like.
unidentified
It's like cheese and mead and just, I can you imagine your stomach.
tim young
And I lived upstairs.
So they lived like, we didn't have a living room in this place.
I had, I had like almost the entire upstairs was mine.
So it was a big area, but there was no living room.
There were five refrigerators.
And I used to really get into it with them because I was like, you're getting, we're not splitting the electric bill evenly.
You're going to charge, you're going to pay 80 to 90% of it because of your goddamn five refrigerators.
chase geiser
So why did you, why did you skip town?
tim young
I went back.
I was became the chief, sorry, director of marketing and digital for CPAC 2015.
And I wanted to get.
chase geiser
You didn't realize that was your job?
That was awesome.
tim young
In 2015.
But yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah, still, that's awesome.
That was a hell of a year for CPAC.
tim young
It was like, I think it was the last authentic year of CPAC.
And they had everybody there.
And like, it was when, you know, we were getting ready going into 2016.
So we had every one of the candidates were there.
Yeah.
And it was like, it was a, it was a crazy shit show.
And so I did all, so I ran the social media team there.
So the social media team, I picked up, I had three female interns, and all three of them went on to be either like director of digital.
One was director of digital for the Department of Education.
One actually ended up running CPAC.
And I think the other one is like vice president of a company now.
And I'm like, you've all surpassed me in my career.
Congratulations.
Like I'm really good at recruiting.
chase geiser
Yeah, you're like LB1, man.
You just got to show up every once in a while and speak some wisdom.
Yeah, it's gone.
So how do you, see, I own a small advertising business.
I've been doing it since 2016, social media advertising exclusively and search.
And I've always avoided any of the political stuff because whenever my Facebook account gets flagged, it's like a nightmare for my clients for a week.
You know, I've got backup accounts for when I get flagged and I don't even post on my personal Facebook profile at all anymore because I'm worried that anything I say or do can be held against me.
So how did you navigate digital strategy in a, and I, you know, it was 2015, so it might have been a little different, but in a field that's so heavily monitored.
tim young
Yeah.
So I've only been suspended by Twitter one time and they never told me what it was.
And so, yeah.
And so none of my other accounts have ever had any kind of flagging.
I don't know what I, I know how to play by the rules.
And I think one of the ways you do that is you ask questions instead of making declarations.
chase geiser
Yeah, I ran a poll.
I ran a poll that said race is inferior or superior, one of those, and it was just listed the races.
And then the second tweet in the thread was, you know, by the way, the only answer is the only right answer is not to answer.
So it was actually an anti-racism tweet, but of course everybody said that the white race was inferior.
Right.
And I got suspended for 12 hours for racism for promoting racism, even though the whole point of the tweet was to indicate that racism is bad.
tim young
I mean, Jesus.
And I don't know.
Honestly, I don't.
Well, I've gotten lots of notifications from Twitter that they've had obviously mass reporting or something of my tweets before.
chase geiser
Yeah.
tim young
And like they're like, we found your tweet to be fine and not to violate German law.
I've gotten a bunch of those.
chase geiser
Yeah, because apparently in Germany they have to tell you if you've been reported.
tim young
Yeah.
chase geiser
Well, but so is that how you kind of leveraged into becoming this conservative podcast comedian influencer?
tim young
No.
I just kind of always was doing it.
chase geiser
Yeah.
tim young
And then are we recording now?
I don't even know.
chase geiser
We're live, bro.
tim young
Oh, well, how about that?
chase geiser
Sorry, I thought it notified you when you hopped in.
tim young
I don't look.
It doesn't matter.
No, I'm fine with that.
No, I mean, the thing is, which by the way, I never say anything.
And that should tell you.
I never say anything behind the scenes that I don't say in front of the scenes too.
So like, I'm always me.
No, you know, I've always just kind of done this stuff and then it picked up.
I've done marketing as well.
So I did a bunch of marketing in Austin.
I helped.
I consulted with the Chamber of Commerce and a bunch of other businesses and stuff.
And I've always been political.
And I mean, I even I interned on Capitol Hill 15 years ago or so in the Senate for Don Nichols and Tim Hutchinson back in the day.
If you guys want to Google how long ago they were in, I think it was like 2002.
Jeez, it's like 18 years.
And it just kind of picked up.
I've been able to, I market people better than myself, though.
And so like, I don't know why I haven't been a bigger influencer or whatever, but it's getting there.
chase geiser
So that's one of the concerns I have about the Republican Party just in general is we seem to be, I've said this a million times on the podcast, but we seem to be really good at winning the logical debate and really bad at winning the emotional debate.
And the Democrats, you know, as much as I despise their tactics so much of the time, are outstanding at branding candidates.
And it seems like every time they run a campaign, there is at least a week where any one of their candidates is like the new hot topic, right?
I mean, for a while, it was going to be Elizabeth Warren and then it was going to be Pete, you know, and they fell out of the limelight, but they did such a good job of framing everyone on that stage as a hero, at least at one point.
And I feel like the Republicans just never pull that off.
Why is that?
tim young
Because they're still using the same antiquated consultants and they continue to listen to them and they keep doing the same thing.
I mean, the fact that, I mean, and this isn't me like saying I'm great, but Molytes, the fact that I don't get phone calls to advise people and I've given advice to people before, members of Congress and whatnot, makes no sense.
Because if you have people like me floating around that are known entities in Washington, D.C. as like a consultant that can be picked up to talk about the stuff on top of everything else I do and you're not using me and you're going back to these old people, this is why we lose.
It's the same stale inability to stand out.
The consultants have them at this like hum instead of people who spike.
And the people who spike, look, I mean, I don't agree with all the crazy stuff she said in the past, but Marjorie Taylor Greene is great at getting out there.
And she became such a threat that the left had to mobilize that same operation that uplifted all of their candidates to take care of her and make her seem like she's some sort of crazy threat to everyone.
And I'm surprised they haven't gone after Lauren Bobert yet either.
Lauren Boebert's why they have virtuous metal detectors and more metal detectors in the hallways just for members because they're afraid that she's carrying a gun on her at all times.
chase geiser
So you're not allowed.
If you're an elected member, you're not allowed to carry a firearm into the house.
tim young
Apparently not.
And that has to be a new thing because you know back in the day they had to, right?
Like in the 1800s and the 1700s, they were all packing.
chase geiser
Did you ever hear that story about Andrew Jackson and the assassination attempt on him in Tennessee?
tim young
No.
chase geiser
So I don't know if this is legend or fact.
Okay.
So just take this with a grain of salt.
But I lived in Tennessee for seven years and I had a lot of friends that were big Andrew Jackson guys, you know, because he was a big Tennessee boy.
And apparently, when he was old, he was walking at the Capitol in Tennessee.
I believe it was in Tennessee.
It could have been the federal capital.
And a guy came up to him, attempted to assassinate him.
It was raining.
And he pulled out a musket and missed fire because of the rain.
And he pulled out a second one, you know, back up, missed fire because of the rain.
And Andrew Jackson just beat the snot out of him with his cane.
tim young
That's legit, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
And I don't know.
chase geiser
Like I said, I don't know if it's factually true or not, but it's still like one of those legends that deserves to be uttered.
tim young
Well, not quite on the same level is Rick Perry shot a wolf that was coming after him, but he was out for a jog one day years ago.
unidentified
Really?
chase geiser
I didn't know that.
Was he on the campaign trail at the time?
tim young
No, I think he was, I think he was in office and just popped like a wolf came after him.
unidentified
I'm pretty sure it was Wolf and he just so.
chase geiser
I like Rick Perry, but whenever I hear his name, there's two things I think of.
I think of that terrible ad that he ran where he bashed gay people.
And I think of when he forgot one of the departments of the government during the debate.
He's like, I'm going to abolish three departments, Department of Education, Department of Energy.
tim young
The other thing that I remember from him is that he had a WWE style entrance theme that someone had written for him for his campaign.
Oh, yeah, there's a Rick Perry, like a hard rock, kind of like a country rock rap song.
Like the thing is, so on paper, he should have been a really good candidate.
But you're right.
That gay commercial did him at with the hunting jacket.
It's like a true.
chase geiser
Yeah, he's wearing like Carhartt.
And he's like, when homosexuals can get married, but our kids can't choose their own schools.
You know, it's like, ooh, like, get a pulse, man.
Get a pulse.
tim young
That's also, so that's also why Republicans, well, they used to lose a lot more because of that.
A lot of the big money is still very socially conservative.
And the thing is, if you're what I would consider like a more classic conservative, you would want smaller government and less hands on your social life.
Who gives a shit if somebody's who somebody sleeps with?
I've been saying that for years, but I mean, so have people like anybody with common sense has said that for years.
Like, why do we care?
Why is this?
chase geiser
I don't know why you have to have a license at all to get married to anyone.
tim young
Why is the government involved in that?
I mean, like, at some point, was there a health issue that you might marry your sister or something?
Or you had to do blood tests or what?
chase geiser
Yeah, I think it's probably got to do with taxes.
And the state is like, you know what?
We better document these people.
We're going to do different tax rates so people don't just say they're married when they're not.
I don't know.
unidentified
Damn.
tim young
But like back in the day when they, like, what was the point of the blood test?
chase geiser
Well, I think they still do it, don't they?
Yeah.
We were, my wife and I were encouraged to get blood tests before we got married.
Like we had to, when we went, they asked us to do it.
We didn't do it, but encourage it, I guess, so you don't accidentally marry your cousin, I guess.
tim young
I think that's it, right?
And so like back in the day, I guess it was more, you had more of a chance to.
Now.
Well, what do you think?
Do you think the odds are hard?
Do you think they're better to marry a cousin nowadays or back in the day?
Because there's more people now.
You might get mixed up in the.
chase geiser
I think back in the day, you were more likely.
Because think about it, man.
If you grew up in a small town, a very slim pickings are slim and there was much less mobility 100 years ago.
I mean, if you wanted to go to a different community, you had to hop on the wagon.
tim young
That's a long way.
chase geiser
Yeah.
Sometimes, you know, if you're not much for the road, you just have to settle for your cousin.
tim young
You know, I don't know.
I don't know why I'm bringing this up, but yesterday we talked about, we were talking about South Dakota and cool stuff to see in South Dakota and the Badlands.
Imagine being on your wagon, pulling into like the Badlands for the first time.
chase geiser
Trying to ramp a dune.
tim young
And then like, it's just miles of it, right?
So you're like, nope, got to go around.
No.
And you just keep going around.
That had to be, I guess people didn't necessarily die there, but it had to get pretty frustrating at some point.
chase geiser
I just don't, the wooden wheels, man.
I think they could have figured something out sooner.
There was a long time where wooden wheels were all the rage.
unidentified
Metal.
tim young
Why didn't they do metal?
chase geiser
I think they might have later.
Yeah, but I don't.
Can you just imagine how bumpy that would have been?
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
That was probably the worst part about the Oregon Trail.
It's like it's like wooden wheels, dysentery, starvation in that order.
tim young
Boarding rivers.
chase geiser
Do you remember that game?
tim young
The original?
They made it.
I have it sitting around here.
I'm not going to run and get it, but Target for a while had a little handheld.
It looked like the old Apple computer.
chase geiser
Yeah.
tim young
The game plays on it.
Like on a little screen.
chase geiser
It's like a mini Apple II.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
tim young
It's a mini Apple II, and the exact game is on it.
chase geiser
Oh, that's awesome.
Remember those bullets?
And you just had like the cursor that would just go all over the screen.
And there's always a latency.
So you had to kind of like understand where it was going to go.
We played that in second grade on the public school computers in class.
tim young
How was that?
That wasn't educational at all.
chase geiser
Yeah.
You know, it was an educational game, but you had to click on like the learn more tabs and stuff.
You know, like there would be like, read about the history and like nobody ever clicked it.
But yeah, you could, like, if you wound up at a reservation or something, it would tell you about whatever tribe if you clicked on it.
tim young
Number bunchers was my jam.
Did you ever do number bunchers?
chase geiser
I never played number.
No, what's that?
tim young
It's like you would have this little guy and it would like, you'd solve little math problems as quickly as you could on the Apple II and he would do a little thing.
And after you like got like so many questions answered, it would show like the little number buncher guy, but he'd be like Isaac Newton or something.
And they would have a little fact on it.
You're like, well, I won something.
I won more learning.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
Amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
I was thinking about this the other day.
So, you know how there's this constant debate going on about artificial intelligence and whether or not it's going to be the end of mankind or the benefit.
I have mixed feelings about it because if you think about it, a computer is all, as of now anyways, all analytical and like zero emotional intelligence.
And it seems to me that the first iterations of artificial intelligence are going to be more like autistic savants than anything else.
Like the guy that can tell you what day of the week, you know, January 2nd, 25, 34 is going to be in a second rather than some sort of like Russell Crowe beautiful mind type person with any sort of charisma.
tim young
Yeah, dude, it's going to be data from Star Trek.
That's what it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
So Mark Zuckerberg.
tim young
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim young
That guy, God, he's so creepy.
I mean, look, he's a billionaire.
You'd think he'd do something with that money to look a little more normal.
chase geiser
So I take it you saw that video from last night of him on his hovercraft trying to be like back to the future.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
What is that all about?
Like, do you think the dude thinks he's like really patriotic and actually does love America and he just makes all the wrong calls?
tim young
He went to, it was Harvard, right?
unidentified
That's where he was?
Yeah.
chase geiser
Before he dropped out.
tim young
I mean, okay.
So like, think of the person that goes there to start with.
Like think of the douchebag that goes there.
I mean, are there, I'd say 70% of the people that go there are a little off and don't have real world skills and knowledge and, you know, street smarts.
chase geiser
It's definitely a very specific class of people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim young
I mean, there are some kids that sneak in, right?
Like, so like there's about, I'd say 30% are like kids that are actually smart.
Oh, I don't know now, but like back in the day, I had a bunch of my friends went to Harvard from I went to UMBC.
chase geiser
Do they always talk about it?
Every person I've ever met who went to Harvard tells me about it within the first five minutes of interacting.
tim young
No, a lot of them are doctors.
A lot of them went to Harvard Medical.
chase geiser
So you have cool friends.
tim young
I don't know if they're cool, but they're smart.
Like they're smart and they're not douchey.
So I think I got rid of most of the douchey friends.
It's one of the reasons I finally up and tanked Washington, D.C. was that I was so tired of the people there.
chase geiser
So where are you now?
tim young
Dallas.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
chase geiser
You're only Grapevine.
unidentified
Right up the street.
chase geiser
Yeah.
That's cool, man.
tim young
I always talk about being in Grapevine.
I love this little town.
So I traveled the country last year for 10 months.
I did 35 states and 80 cities.
And this was my favorite town because it sits right on the DFW airport.
And you have all the media stuff around here you could possibly want.
And it's this like little kind of bougie tourist town with like winery.
I'm not even a wine person, but there's a winery on every corner.
It claims to be the Christmas capital of Texas.
It's very much so appeasing to my ADHD.
chase geiser
Yeah.
So do you actually believe that you have ADHD or is that just something that you say?
tim young
No, no, no.
chase geiser
Nope.
tim young
I was diagnosed with it a long time ago.
chase geiser
If you don't mind me asking, do you take, what are your feelings about the medication for it?
tim young
They kept me off of it.
So I had a very, very good psychiatrist back in the day.
And I had anxiety and a bunch of other stuff.
And he was worried about my creativity.
And he said the ADHD actually contributes to my ability to do what I do.
And so we just worked on stuff.
And three years, I went to three years of counseling and figured it all out.
So still have problems with it.
chase geiser
I struggle with it because I agree that it definitely helps with creativity, but I do supplement with the medication for it because it's very difficult for me to do things that I need to do that I otherwise wouldn't ever do, like open a spreadsheet, for example.
That's just something I can't do if I'm not on medicine.
tim young
Yeah.
chase geiser
And I and I have a chronic procrastination problem as a result of it as well.
tim young
Well, that's been a lot of this, a lot of my projects.
I started doing these little videos and things now because I was yelled at by multiple media executives and they were like, hey, you've got to do this.
And I'm like, okay, sure, whatever.
But I never got around to it because I just, I would be distracted and do other things.
I mean, my tweeting and stuff, there is no rhyme or reason.
Like I'll see something and be like, oh, that's cool.
And then tweet about it or, you know, I'll post about it.
But there's no like real order or organization to it.
And I started putting a little bit of thought into stuff and like how I do things and making myself do videos and podcasts, whatever else now.
And it's exploded from there.
Like the numbers have gone through the roof recently because of the actual like focusing instead of, you know, ADHDing it and just kind of like winging it and being all over the place.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in the same boat.
Like I'm trying to kind of, I don't, I don't want to say become an influencer because that's such a douche thing to aspire to.
tim young
Dude, it's the worst.
I hate that term because when I think influencer, I think like a woman who's shown her ass on Instagram and then sells like, you know, beauty cream because of it.
She's like, I got a hundred.
chase geiser
I'm trying to get away from that.
You know, I've got a kid now and I don't want to do that anymore.
unidentified
No.
tim young
I mean, you need to.
chase geiser
But I want followers and I want to like write books one day and I want to have, you know, cooler and cooler people on the podcast.
You know, every new guest I have is the pinnacle, right?
You're the best guest I've ever had, man.
tim young
I'm like the worst.
Yeah.
unidentified
Who did you have?
tim young
You had Ron Coleman on the other day.
He's pretty good.
chase geiser
Coleman's awesome.
I had Papadopoulos on.
That was pretty cool.
tim young
Papadopoulos is cool.
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
He looks just like Billy Zayn to me.
There's the ADD again.
But I wanted to ask you, what would your advice be for me as someone who's trying to grow a following?
Not trying to be an influencer, but trying to grow a following, but still have integrity, you know?
You know, in the long haul, do you use like analytical tools to monitor trends?
I mean, are you like insane about it or how do you do it with intention?
tim young
You know, man, I don't, I just tweet what I think at the time and I'm a little witty and that helps.
But that's like, I, you know, my, my rule is, and you found out earlier, like when I didn't think we were live because I don't read, I'm the same person on and off camera.
I'm the same person on and off of Twitter.
People are like, you don't, I mean, I'm very quiet, actually, when I go out.
I like to have my downtime and like whatever, but there's, it's just be authentic to yourself.
And if it goes, it goes.
And if it doesn't, you know, do something else.
I mean, that's the whole thing.
I look, I, I can go, you know, run a marketing firm right now if I want to.
I don't, you know, but everything else is working out right now.
So I'm happy with it.
And I'm, you know, going to be filming a pilot TV show coming up here.
And I've just been really fortunate.
chase geiser
Can you tell me about that pilot?
I'm really interested.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim young
So it's going to be a travel show where I used to do a segment called Take Tim to Work at WTT G Fox 5 in DC.
And it's taking that and making it a 22 minute or a 44 minute and not having famous people on it.
So, or like restaurateurs and stuff.
I want to do real people things, like sort of like dirty jobs, to be honest with you, but without focusing on the job and being a little bit more generic about it.
So like the first place I'm going to go, like I'm going to work at a gas station and then going to be flying around.
There's a place called, I think it's called Stream Streamline.
I always forget the name of the spot.
Again, old man.
There's a bar and I'm going to be in Wichita, Kansas.
There's a bar in Wichita, Kansas with an airstrip.
And it's all these millionaires with these like old-timey planes and you take up the planes and fly around in them.
So, I mean, there's just a lot of cool stuff and there's a lot of cool stuff in America.
Last year, so not only did I do that thing at WTTG, last year during COVID, I had at the Washington Times, I had a little series called On the Road with Tim Young.
And it was seen by six million people.
It was the most popular thing in the history of their social media.
Excuse me.
And they ended up, whoever came in and took over the social media after the last guy left, a lot of it was in stories on Instagram.
Thank God I saved all these videos.
They killed all the Instagram stories for some reason, like the saved little circles at the top of the Instagram.
Tanked them all.
I don't understand why you would do that because it's just free content to keep people on the page.
But so they tanked about 10 hours, 15 hours of footage of me on the road.
Thank God I saved it all.
chase geiser
Always back up.
tim young
Yeah.
But so that's, I mean, I just really love talking to normal people.
And I mean, I'm a normal guy.
And like, I just kind of like highlighting stories and getting them to talk to themselves.
chase geiser
I prefer to only be around celebrities.
tim young
I get it.
Because they're better than us.
It's important.
And they're much wiser.
All celebrities, actors in particular, are the smartest people.
chase geiser
Well, they're the only people who are experts in every field.
If you are incredible at portraying a 19th century sort of wilderness man, you also know everything there is to know about the climate.
tim young
Yes.
Exactly.
Nailed it.
You know who I really do like, though, and it's interesting.
And I think he's been shocked.
I've watched a couple of his videos lately is Russell Brand, who I used to hate him, but he's grown on me.
I did a comedy challenge with him in LA once.
And it was, he's the weirdest fucking dude.
So he comes in to the green room and all the comics are standing around there.
And there's a lot of very annoying comics now that like are still, all the people that are there that I was on the show with are still around.
Like Jen Kirkland, who's nuts.
So he has a harmony with him.
unidentified
Huh?
chase geiser
Kirkland Brand Comedy.
tim young
Yeah, pretty much.
She actually, like, her big claim to fame is like, she was in like the original drunk history, like the very first, when they were still good and not staged.
Not completely staged because they have to be staged now, the stuff that they do.
But anyway, so he comes in with the Sherpa.
And first she comes in and she's wearing like a white robe and gives everybody like a God, like a spiritual guide.
I call it a Sherpa, but like a Sherpa is like a shaman.
chase geiser
You're like his dude with him.
tim young
Okay.
I'm using the wrong term.
I just, I call it Sherpa and people always just go along with it.
There are words I don't know the definition to that I just go with because I'm a more official.
chase geiser
No, I just wanted to make sure I was following.
tim young
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean Sherpa that guides you through the mountains.
But anyway, so like the shaman comes in.
He's got the whole way.
I'm going to change the story from now on because I always say Sherpa.
And no one's ever corrected me because they're dumb.
chase geiser
I'm not afraid to admit I don't know something.
unidentified
Good.
tim young
Me too.
But I'll throw out words that I don't know the definition to that just sound right in the sentence.
And most of the time, it's in the ballpark enough.
But anyway, so wearing this white robe comes and gives everybody elevator eyes up and down, up and down.
And then he comes in and does the exact same goddamn thing.
And we're all looking at him like, where is this going?
And then he turns to the shaman and goes, these are real people.
And then the shaman goes, and he turns around.
He's like, hey, everybody, how you doing?
And it's like, what just happened?
chase geiser
Was he just fucking with you?
tim young
I don't know.
I don't know because it like there was no, I think that's legit because at that time, I think he had just left Katy Perry or something like that.
And like he was going to.
chase geiser
He probably needed a little help.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim young
And so like he had a shaman or whatever follow him around.
But I saw the shaman then on like Rodeo eating outside, getting like a salad outside later on.
I'm like, man, what a great deal that is.
Whatever they're getting paid.
chase geiser
You got to be careful when you get famous.
You get leeches like that.
You know, like Brian Wilson or whatever from The Beach Boys, you know, I don't know if you saw that movie, Love and Mercy.
unidentified
Yep.
chase geiser
With, what's the name of that actor?
Whatever.
Paul Giovanni, I think.
tim young
Speaking of, oh, go ahead, sorry.
chase geiser
No, no, I was just saying.
So you just got to be careful if you get really successful like that because people will latch onto you.
tim young
Speaking of those types of people, have you seen this whole thing?
Do you know who Yashir Ali is on the on Twitter?
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
He's a guy that looks skinny in his profile picture, but shows up fat on every interview.
tim young
Correct.
You need to read this article that just came out on him as like, I mean, it's like a book.
Like somebody wrote like a book on this guy.
And like apparently he goes from celeb to celebrate.
Like he lived at Kathy Griffin's house and like Kathy Griffin couldn't quite figure out why he was there.
And basically she was giving him money and a place to stay and a bunch of other stuff.
And like finally like her management team was like, dude, why is he here?
He's got to go.
And so that, but that's happened over and over again.
Apparently, he's got a pattern to doing this.
It's a very odd, like basically the article's like trying to be nice.
And they're like, he's such an influencer and he rose to fame and yada yada.
By the way, he ends up at random celebrities houses living there, collecting money off of them for God knows what.
And since that article came out, he's been off of Twitter.
chase geiser
I followed him for a while and I even asked him to be on the podcast early on just because I thought it would be interesting to talk to him.
And I'm like this.
tim young
I'm very thin right now.
chase geiser
Well, I stopped following him because he started tweeting, you know, today's the fifth night in a row that I've gone to bed not wanting to wake up in the morning.
unidentified
Fuck.
chase geiser
Remember when he went through that phase?
tim young
He did it again recently.
chase geiser
I was like, you know, I think mental health is a serious issue.
I think it should be destigmatized.
I think that we are lacking in infrastructure to deal with mental illness in this country.
Okay.
I'm all for it.
But it seems to me that if you're genuinely mentally ill, that's not how you express it.
I don't think it just seemed more like attention-seeking behavior to me than a genuine call for help.
tim young
You've been to a psychiatrist.
I've been to a psychiatrist.
We both talked about it.
Like, there's no, if I'm feeling down, you're not seeing me on the internet, you know, begging for whatever.
chase geiser
One of my controversial statements that I make among friends and family that I think this might be the first time or second time I've ever said it online is, I believe all women except when I see them on CNN.
It's like, listen, if any woman tells me that something happened, I believe that woman.
But if I see a talking head on CNN making a Me Too claim, 50-50.
tim young
Well, you know, like, so like, what was it?
No, no.
Remember when the Kavanaugh stuff happened and like the New Yorker did the article on the woman who like, she was like, I was a rape victim, but like she, they had like this full, like amazing photo, like spread, photo spread of her.
chase geiser
Blase Ford?
tim young
No, it was the one that came after her.
It was the train rape one or whatever.
The gang.
It was the chick who, yeah, because she was like, she was like Avenatti's.
Like, she was like, they were just trying to line them up and collect money.
It really seemed like.
chase geiser
Yeah, they were trying to do class action or something.
tim young
But she was the one who said that she was like a college student that went to high school sex parties and was raped at high school sex parties multiple times as a college student.
Like she just kept going back to these.
She was like, you know, the first time that I was like raped at this high school party, I guess it wasn't that bad.
I'll go back.
Like, I mean, the story was so unbelievable.
And it broke in the New Yorker and she had a, and God, I can't remember the name of it.
It had, she had these full, like, magnificent photo shoots that they did with her.
And I'm like, that's not real.
chase geiser
So I've given, I've given this a lot of thought because I got, um, uh, I had a false accusation made against me when I was in college and it was, it totally shook me to the core.
And I don't think I've experienced anything more terrifying in my life.
And I've basically come to the conclusion about a couple of things regarding the Mewtwo movement.
The first one is we should be encouraging women who are victims of sexual assault to immediately press charges.
Immediately press charges.
Like, don't be scared.
Go press charges, right?
This whole character assassination thing on the internet is, it sucks.
And I understand if 20 years ago you were in a position where you couldn't because Harvey Weinstein was running the show.
Okay, I get it.
That's there's exceptions.
But today, if you get raped, immediately go to the cops or the hospital and call the cops.
Like I have a daughter that was born in January, and I'm going to encourage her when she's old enough and we're going to have this conversation.
If anything ever happens to you, immediately call the police.
Don't wait around for seven years.
Let it fester and then like start making claims or whatever.
Just deal with it right away.
And I understand that we can't victim blame and it's taxing for people to have to relive their experience.
But if you don't go to the cops and you've been sexually assaulted, you are allowing a predator to walk the streets.
So it's like, come on.
Like if somebody, if somebody raped me, which is particularly embarrassing to happen to a man in our culture, right?
No man ever want to talk about this.
If that happened to me, that's the first thing I would do is go to the police.
And it would suck, but I'm not going to let that guy walk around if I can do anything about it.
Come on.
tim young
Well, I always say, and I was trained as a public defender in law school.
I went to law school, if you don't know that.
The next one's on you.
So the next victim is your fault because you didn't go after that guy.
I know it's a little harsh statement to say, but it's like, that's what it is.
chase geiser
It's hard to say as a public defender too, because you have to defend all the worst people.
tim young
I never did it.
But like, I was just trained as it, but like, and I, and I, uh, had some really, really good advisors and I learned a ton.
But like, um, yeah, I mean, like, you have to, you have to say something immediately.
But it has been weaponized.
And, and now, you know, like, you take a look at what they tried to cancel Aziz Ansari with that one story where like the girl was over his place and they were like starting to get it on.
chase geiser
I love that guy.
unidentified
I love that guy.
tim young
She like they were, they were starting to get it on and she was like, I don't, I don't want to do this.
And he goes, okay.
And then he got her an Uber and she went home.
And then he even followed up and like texted her and was like, are you okay?
Like in the morning, he was so concerned.
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim young
And then she, she did like a Me Too article on some bullshit website that was trying to get famous.
The website and this girl were trying to elevate themselves.
And it was like, this is ridiculous.
This guy is a totally nice guy.
And you made it so.
chase geiser
He didn't let her pick the wine, man.
You remember that?
No, part in the article that she wrote, she said that he didn't even ask me what wine I wanted.
He just opened a bottle.
I'm like, bro, James Bond doesn't ask anybody what wine they want.
tim young
And somebody I consider, I wouldn't say, I guess he's a friend, an acquaintance.
I'd help him.
Andy Signore from Screen Junkies.
He founded Screen Junkies.
Do you know his story?
We're like, he like, he messed around with a fan or something once, and then she accused him of all sorts of stuff.
And they ran him out of his own company on something that was like consensual.
And so like he founded Screen Junkies.
Now he does Popcorn Planet.
He's a great guy.
And yeah, I mean, they tried to cancel him during with the Me Too stuff, and they did.
I mean, they got him away from his own company, and these other guys wanted full control of it without him around.
chase geiser
Yeah, you know, I tell you what, when I was, when I was in, when I was younger, I was much more libertine in my sentiments toward sexuality and promiscuity in terms of, you know, there's nothing wrong with adults just, you know, doing whatever they want.
And as I get older, I'm like, you know what?
This whole monogamy thing makes a hell of a lot of sense because there's so much liability fooling around with strangers.
Like, don't do it.
tim young
I stopped.
So somewhere in the middle of the Trump, the Trump years in the White House, I stopped dating in DC because I was worried when I was a known entity.
I was worried that someone would try to claim that I did something.
Literally, I just stopped dating because I was worried that, not that I ever would, but I was worried that somebody would make up something.
chase geiser
That's scary, man.
Well, I know that you're on a tight schedule.
Where can everybody follow you and what's next for you?
tim young
Oh, God.
Tim runs his mouth everywhere, of course.
And Tim Young, I'm pretty easy to find.
People shit on me all the time.
So it's fun.
And so next up is the pilot.
And we'll see where that goes.
And you can go, I do the podcast regularly now.
No things considered.
You should do it.
Come on.
We'll have more conversation when I'm not hungover from the 4th of July.
And yeah, I mean, that's it.
I'm really just working.
Oh, I have a TikTok now.
That's why I forgot to tell you.
One of the things I added, since I found out that my own government monitors me anyway, I found out the other day from the FBI calling me.
I was just like, whatever.
They know everything anyway.
So I joined TikTok.
My friends were bugging me about it.
And I had 2.2 million views on my videos in one week.
chase geiser
Did you keep your shirt on?
tim young
It was a lot of the stuff on that.
Jeez, you talk about being like an adult, like when it hits you that you're old as you go on there.
And it's like all these women that are like, I understand you.
Well, and they're doing like super sexual stuff.
And I'm like, man, come on.
You know?
chase geiser
Yeah.
I had to, I, I, I, I, uh, just basically was like, you know what?
Maybe I shouldn't be here.
I had that thought.
And I put some content on there every once in a while, but I don't, I don't like scrolling through the dance videos of 16 year olds with their manager, you know, behind the cash register at a fast food restaurant doing some like super sexy dance.
tim young
Also, I mean, the other thing, too, that really bothers me, and then I got to run, but are like the conservative influencers again.
Influencer is a bad, bad word, but it just, it gives me this cringy feeling when I say it.
But these girls that like basically do the same, basically the same thing, like bikini with a gun in it or whatever, like regularly on Instagram.
You get all these followers, all these little 12-year-olds that, you know, are looking for softcore porn.
And then suddenly they're like speaking at CPAC because they have, you know, 200,000 followers or whatever, you know, whatever conference they're speaking at because they put up pictures of themselves in a bikini.
Suddenly they're a policy expert.
It's like, come on, guys.
This is why we lose.
This is why we lose.
chase geiser
I know.
But hey, we'll see what happens in 2022.
I'm optimistic.
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
I really appreciate it, man.
I really enjoyed our time together today.
unidentified
Thanks.
tim young
It was good hanging out.
See you, man.
chase geiser
All right, man.
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