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Why Critical Race Theory Is Doomed, Writing & Law | Kurt Schlichter | One American Podcast #10

Chase Geiser is joined by Kurt Schlichter.  Kurt Schlichter is a successful trial lawyer based in the Los Angeles area representing companies and individuals in matters ranging from routine business cases to confidential Hollywood and entertainment industry disputes and transactions.  A member of the Million Dollar Advocates Forum, which recognizes attorneys who have won trial verdicts in excess of $1 million, his litigation strategy and legal analysis articles have run in such legal publications such as the Los Angeles Daily Journal and California Lawyer. Kurt is a 1994 graduate of Loyola Law School, where he was a law review editor.  He majored in Communications and Political Science as an undergraduate at the University of California, San Diego, where he also edited the student paper California Review while writing a regular column in the student humor paper the Koala. After college, Kurt enlisted in the United States Army and received his commission as a second lieutenant through the Army Officer Candidate School.  While stationed in West Germany, Kurt was deployed to Operation Desert Storm when he served in the conflict as a platoon leader.  After leaving active duty, he joined the California Army National Guard and served in a variety of command and staff positions for over two decades. Colonel Schlichter wears the silver “jump wings” of a qualified paratrooper and commanded the elite 1st Squadron, 18th Cavalry Regiment. A veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom (Kosovo), as well as the Los Angeles riots, the Northridge earthquake and the 2007 San Diego fires mobilizations, he is a graduate of the Army’s Combined Arms Staff Service School and the Command and General Staff College.  He earned a master of Strategic Studies degree from the United States Army War College. His freelance writing been published in major papers like the New York Post, the Washington Examiner, the Los Angeles Times, the Boston Globe, the Washington Times, the Army Times, and the San Francisco Examiner.  Kurt also wrote for Breitbart.com’s Big Hollywood, Big Government, Big Journalism and Big Peace sites and is a weekly columnist for Townhall.com. As a stand-up comic for several years, he has gathered a large and devoted following in the world of social media for his amusing and often biting conservative commentary. He is an active user of Twitter (@KurtSchlichter) with over 37,000 followers, which led to his four #1 selling Amazon “Political Humor” ebooks “I Am a Conservative,” “I Am a Liberal,” “Fetch My Latte,” and “Fifty Shades of Liberal.” Kurt is often on the air as a news source, an on-screen commentator, and as a guest on nationally syndicated radio programs discussing political, military and legal issues, including Fox News, the Hugh Hewitt Show, the Dennis Miller Show, Geraldo, the Greg Garrison Show, the WMAL Morning Show with Larry O’Connor, the Larry Elder Show, and KABC’s John Phillips Show, among others. Kurt is married to Irina and has two children. He lives in the South Bay area of Los Angeles. EPISODE LINKS: Kurt's Twitter: https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter Chase's Twitter: https://twitter.com/realchasegeiser Kurt's Website: http://kurtschlichter.com/ Kurt's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Kurt-Schlichte... PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://www.patreon.com/IAmOneAmerican

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kurt schlichter
Ibram Kendi, whatever the hell his name is.
Okay, he's a clown.
All right.
He's a joke.
He is a human punchline.
His ideas are stupid.
They're expressed poorly.
He's ridiculous.
How else is he going to become successful?
unidentified
We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
A date which will live in infamy.
I still have a dream.
Good night.
And good luck.
chase geiser
So I read a little bit about you.
To be honest with you, I didn't know much about you before this weekend.
And it's excusable.
Yeah, it sounds like you've had quite an eclectic life experience from communications and political science as an undergrad to the military to writing novels to stand-up comedy to trial law.
It's wild, all the different things you've been involved with.
kurt schlichter
Yeah, I get around.
I'm intellectually promiscuous.
chase geiser
Yeah, yeah.
So when you were a kid, did you know that you were going to be interested in these various things that you wound up doing?
kurt schlichter
I had a, I kind of had a notion of what I'd be doing along the way.
chase geiser
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
So I think it's, I mean, I think it, I'm not surprised where I ended up, I guess I could say.
chase geiser
So did you write a lot when you were a teenager?
kurt schlichter
I wrote a lot in college.
I always kind of wanted to be a writer.
And so I just did it.
chase geiser
Yeah.
So do you remember the first novel that you wrote?
I don't know that it was the one that was published, but I think I wrote some crime novel in college.
kurt schlichter
It's probably moldering somewhere.
You know, it was Heinlein, maybe, or Bradbury said you have to write a million words to clear out all the crap.
chase geiser
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
So after that, you know, maybe you have a shot.
chase geiser
I think Jerry Seinfeld might have a similar approach.
He did an awesome episode with Tim Ferriss a long time ago, where he sort of talked about his writing process.
And it's like, listen, I sit down every day and I don't have to write, but I can't do anything else.
And it's like you just, you get to a point where you're forcing yourself to do the activity and not really thinking about what you're doing.
kurt schlichter
I never, I never have that.
I never force myself to write.
If I'm going to write, it's because I want to.
And, you know, I'm a good time manager.
I always plan my life out in blocks.
And, you know, I have a block set away today to write the column for Thursday.
And, you know, I have to stick it in between appearances and other work.
But I never have to force myself to write.
If I'm sitting down to writing, I'm going to write.
unidentified
And if I'm, you know, that's just how it works.
kurt schlichter
I'm also not afraid of writing.
I am a lawyer.
I write thousands of words every day.
And so, you know, a blank page doesn't worry me just like a crowd doesn't worry me.
I find it bizarre that there are people out there who are afraid to speak in public, for instance.
To me, I always just assumed everybody absolutely wanted to hear what I had to say.
I mean, it never occurred to me that they didn't.
Why wouldn't they?
But the same with writing.
Actually, talking about this weekend, I just, you know, I always knew I wanted to write books.
So I just did and, you know, sold it.
I did, I've done three traditional, five non-traditional, the last of which was Crisis, and that got to 29 on all of Amazon.
Now I have another one coming.
Thank you.
I'll have another one coming out next month.
Interesting about writing.
I'll get to that in a sec, but I just decided I wanted to do it.
I mean, the first novel that I published, I just decided I want to do it.
So I did it.
And it's very interesting.
The writing world has changed because I don't have to ask anybody's permission to do it.
I do traditional books and they happen differently.
There's a longer process.
There's a more formal editorial process.
The timing's different.
The way you get paid is different.
I do like the control that the self-publishing tools give you because it's essentially transparent.
I was talking to somebody today who's publishing a novel this month and a good one.
And he's like, oh man, I got a format.
I'm like, it takes me like two hours.
That's the easiest part.
It's so easy to get out there.
The barriers are so low to selling your work that it really becomes a situation where you're standing on your own, as opposed to, you know, in the past, the publishing industry is terrible.
Much of it is devoted to people going to lunch with each other.
It is inefficient.
It is archaic.
They have no idea what's going on.
They don't know what's going to sell.
I mean, they have no better idea than you or I about what a good idea is going to be.
And it's really kind of bizarre.
And now they have like much less power because the people who are doing really well, many of them started doing non-traditional, like the guy who wrote The Martian.
Now he writes regular books, but if he got pissed off, he'd go, well, screw you.
I'll just go on Amazon and publish it.
And I'll keep 70% of the money as opposed to like 25%.
chase geiser
And I've heard, and I don't know if this has been your experience, but I have friends who are authors.
And I've heard that even if you get a publishing deal, the advance may be nice, but if you don't sell your own book, they're not going to sell it for you.
kurt schlichter
Oh, they don't.
My latest one, Regnery, is a little different.
It's been very helpful.
But look, they don't have time to sell books.
They got to go to lunch.
And frankly, a lot of them don't know how to sell books.
You know, I'll have people going, hey, Kurt, I got you on, you know, this religious station.
And it's like, look, I'm religious.
I like religious people.
But that's not really the venue for one of Kurt Schlichter's right-wing nonfiction books.
I did my own, you know, I did a lot of my own publicity.
I've got a pretty good Rolodex.
I can call people up and get on their shows.
Half my friends seem to be radio guys now.
But, you know, the traditional ways of doing things, which you got to get on Fox.
I didn't get on Fox for crisis.
I still got to 29.
chase geiser
But you've built up a robust following of your own as well.
kurt schlichter
Yes.
Yeah.
I've got 320,000 people who follow me on Twitter and more on locals and some on Facebook.
And they know me.
And I put out there, hey, I've written a book.
You know, a lot of them are going to go buy it.
It doesn't hurt that the books are pretty fun.
They've gotten very good.
They got very good reviews.
People have enjoyed them, which is very nice.
I like hearing that people enjoyed them.
I have fun writing them.
I don't consider it a chore.
chase geiser
Do you know what happened?
Do you know what's going to happen in the entire book when you sit down to write it?
I mean, you figured all that out.
You just let it roll.
kurt schlichter
I really do.
I have a theme, you know, an idea.
And I always have kind of a cold open for all my novels, like a James Pond movie.
chase geiser
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
You know, the first 10 minutes mean don't relate at all to the rest of the book and I uh or movie and uh I kind of do that.
But no, I have a general idea, but it comes out, you know, it always takes form and there's always a point where it clicks.
The one I'm writing now, I'm at 65,000 words.
I need to get to about 100.
That's that just sounds like about the right number for it.
And I've got general ideas of the two sections I haven't written.
You know, I wrote basically the first half, then I wrote a big, big action set piece, and then I wrote the last chapter.
I like writing the last chapter kind of, you know, about a third of the way it process, because then I know where I'm going to get.
So I can put all the pieces in place to get there.
And, you know, then I then I'll go back and polish it up.
You know, oh, hey, I have to figure out, you know, how this guy got himself a Buick.
Okay.
Here's where he steals a Buick.
I really hate continuity errors and plot holes.
And they bother me.
So I will read through it.
I go through, I'll go through to make sure I've got everything right.
It's also kind of weird reading your own stuff because I put my book down for like a week or two.
And I decide, well, instead of writing more, I'm going to read what I've written and kind of getting the vibe.
And I'm reading the stuff and it's like I didn't read it.
I'm like surprised by what happens.
Like, oh, I didn't remember.
I wrote that scene.
That's a cool scene.
And it's kind of a fun process.
And then, of course, you're polishing it.
You know, you change words here or there, try and make them a more evocative.
I've got, I've developed kind of an interest.
It's interesting to me, a unique style, particularly in my columns.
And it kind of comes in the books too.
I don't think anybody writes like me.
I don't think there are a lot of people who used to be stand-ups and also have a degree from the war college.
So I kind of have this bizarre, unusual voice, but it's a unique one.
Nobody sounds like me.
I think I've actually seen people who dislike me try and write like me.
And it's just, it's just not real.
It's just not who they are.
So they shouldn't do it.
chase geiser
Right.
kurt schlichter
You know, you should, you should do what you do.
Create your own.
chase geiser
So has your experience as an attorney formed the stories that you write in any way?
Because not so much.
kurt schlichter
No, I mean, I might as well sell shoes.
You know, it's not my mom was a judge and a lawyer when I was growing up.
So there is no romance to being a lawyer.
I'm distinctly unimpressed by it.
It's just a job.
I mean, there are some skills and sometimes it's fun.
And sometimes you, you know, I'm working on a project right now where I'm out thinking the other side before he even knows I'm going to attack.
I prefer to win my cases before they even know I'm fighting.
I think that's kind of a military side thing.
But, you know, I mean, being a lawyer does give you experience, you know, forming arguments, picking holes in other arguments.
I don't think it's necessary.
I mean, I don't think it's not useful.
Some people are impressed by it.
It's kind of, you know, I think I get away with being a lot more obnoxious than I would otherwise if I couldn't say, yeah, I was a colonel and a lawyer.
chase geiser
Right.
kurt schlichter
But so you have like achievements I can understand.
And then on Twitter, you basically insulted my mother.
chase geiser
Right.
kurt schlichter
I'm like, yeah, it's called a conundrum.
chase geiser
So tell me about your first job.
kurt schlichter
Carl's Jr. sweeping out toilets for 310 an hour in Foster City, California.
chase geiser
Wow.
You ever think about going back?
kurt schlichter
All the time.
I think everybody should have a, I'm not going to call it a shitty job, though I thought it was shitty at the time.
I think everybody should have a tough job that doesn't give you false ego, you know, working on something where you're dealing with human beings, which is always a challenge, and where, you know, it's just not pleasant.
There's so many people who, you know, I came to law school after being in the Gulf War.
So I was like, I had been a platoon leader in a war and I get there and most of these kids were right out of college.
chase geiser
Did you just mop up in terms of just the psychological demand of law school?
Were you just overly prepared compared to everyone in your class?
kurt schlichter
I was, well, I mean, I partied my ass off.
But no, I never went into class unprepared.
It never occurred to me.
I was an officer.
My mission is to be prepared.
I was going to be prepared.
Now, that didn't mean I didn't party.
Like I said, I partied.
And it was never hard, but I was always prepared.
If the teachers called on me, I'd read the cases and I, at least to the extent I could, I understood them.
Other people weren't like that.
Other people had never had a job.
I went to Loyola, which is a lot.
It's mostly the rich kids who couldn't get into USC or UCLA.
So I was around a lot of folks with money and stuff, which I was not.
And they never worked at Carl's Jr. and never worked at all.
And, you know, I had jobs since I was 16.
And of course, I'd been in the Army for three and a half years, four years, just before.
So I was a little different than all of them.
And I think I scared the shit out of a lot of them.
Surprised him too.
There was a writing contest to get on the law review.
You didn't just get on by grades.
And, you know, everybody tried to get on a law review.
I made it.
And people were like, how'd the army guy make it?
unidentified
And I'm like, God.
chase geiser
You just thought you were dumb because you were in the military?
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
And I'm like, you know, I met some dumb people in the army, but that was not the, that was not the standard, you know?
And I actually went back into the army in the guard at least during law school.
I guess I missed it.
ended up in the Los Angeles riots with 3rd Battalion, 160th Infantry for three weeks.
And but yeah, so I came out kind of like a different world from a lot of these guys and they didn't know what to make of me.
And I wasn't particularly interested in them or impressed with that.
I mean, there were people who, you know, were smart or had, you know, my, my, I met my law partner first day of law school.
chase geiser
Wow.
kurt schlichter
And, you know, good guy.
And yeah, I just, I don't know.
I, I, I, I just always felt I was a little, I mean, I was a little different.
I was a little older.
I had some real world experience and I was kind of focused on what I wanted to do.
chase geiser
So I grew up.
I went to a very small public school in the middle of nowhere, Illinois.
And my dad didn't make any money until like three or four years before I went to college.
So I sort of grew up like on a budget.
But then right when it was important that I had money, I could like go anywhere I wanted to college kind of thing.
kurt schlichter
That's nice.
chase geiser
It was nice.
And I noticed something really interesting.
I went to Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee, which is a small private school, Christian school.
And I, when I went there, all of them had virtually, virtually all of them either been homeschooled or gone to a private school.
And I noticed that, and this is just, this is just anecdotal stereotype.
Okay.
So I noticed that the private school kids had like no sense of hustle and like, you know, sort of like resourcefulness, right?
Because resources were never, had never been an issue.
And I'm torn like as a new dad, thinking about what I want to do with my daughter in terms of private versus public school, because obviously, you know, you were likely to get a better education at private school, but isn't there value in going to public school because it sucks?
kurt schlichter
Look, there's a great value to doing things that suck.
I, you know, I work out three days a week with a guy named Kurt, who big muscle guy, and he's very, very fit.
And I'm trying to keep in shape.
You know, I don't want to be one of those old guys who's decrepit and everything.
And I can't lift what I used to lift.
I'm not in as good a shape.
I'm probably heavier than I should be.
But he said something very nice to me.
He said, you know, you know, you got mental toughness.
You don't bitch.
I tell you to do 10, you do 10, even if it's hard.
You don't complain about it.
And I'm like, I don't come from a world where complaining works.
chase geiser
Right.
kurt schlichter
I mean, the military's military is not like that.
Law isn't like that, or at least not the kind I do.
Excuses don't get you very far.
You just got to do it.
And there are a lot of people who've never said, there are a lot of parents out there who refuse to say no to their kids.
For some reason, they want their kids to like them.
And they think that by not being their parent, they will like them.
And it's like, it never works.
Their kids always despise them because that's what kids do.
So I'm, you know, my feeling's always been kind of like, I don't care what you think.
You know, here's how it's got to be.
Get it done.
I just don't care.
And there's a lot of value to that.
You know, you've just got, and a lot of people have never known that.
A lot of people have never had, a lot of people have never done anything hard.
Do you see it with the COVID epidemic, right?
You've got, there are a lot of people out there, Chase, who this is going to be the most exciting thing that's happened to them in their life.
One of the something that's disrupted the paradigm that's been completely different than everything else.
chase geiser
Which is ironic, of course, because it was exciting in that you had to stay home and watch Netflix, which is typically very boring.
unidentified
Yes.
kurt schlichter
Yes.
But it's like when you're part of something big, like a war or the riots, you feel differently.
There's a level of excitement there.
Now, I'm not saying it's fun in the typical sense.
And I'm not saying it's a that I wish it to happen.
I feel kind of like a fireman.
I don't want your house to burn down, but if it does, I want to put it out.
But it's a very exciting thing.
And a lot of people have never felt that.
And then this, you know, you go into a supermarket for the first time, there's shit not on the shelves.
chase geiser
Right.
kurt schlichter
And that's different.
I think that's why so many people watch, you know, garbage like The Walking Dead because they wonder if all this went away, what would I do?
And here it kind of did, but you're totally safe, right?
It's like, you know, you're risking being the 0.001% of normal, healthy people who die from this thing.
So there's technically a risk, but it's not really risky.
But for a lot of people, this is a highlight of their life.
This is a highlight.
They will tell their kids about this.
And I'll barely remember it.
chase geiser
I think there's some sort of like what I like to refer to as generational envy in that.
And I experience it too.
When I go, if I watch, for example, Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers, the TV series on HBO, there's a part of me, and it's probably out of some sort of immaturity, but there's a part of me that's like, man, I wish that I would have been able to have fought in like, you know, this so clearly good versus evil thing.
And I think the civil rights movement, right?
It was wish that they could have fought in the civil rights movement.
So they're sort of recreating one, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
I mean, look, having been in a war is a great, having been in a war is a great thing.
Being in a war, maybe not so great.
But a lot guys, you know, grow up on a farm.
Suddenly they're in freaking France fighting the Nazis in a battle that, you know, they're making movies about.
And then they go back to life and they work at a carpet factory.
And it is the highlight of their life.
Now, that seems to me to be a worthy, you know, transcendent moment in your life.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're like, oh, yeah, I was in Omaha Beach.
unidentified
Okay.
kurt schlichter
Pretty good high point.
A lot of people were going to exceed that, but you're doing pretty well.
But yeah, I mean, people want to be part of big things, part of history.
I mean, I, you know, look, I ran a heavily armed car wash at Desert Storm.
unidentified
Okay.
kurt schlichter
So I wasn't like saving Private Ryan.
I was more like decontaminating his half-track.
But I was in places where I heard radio calls from generals to colonels that I later read about in books.
And, you know, that's kind of a, that's kind of cool.
You know, I, I would, you know, when they made the decision not to attack, you know, this particular armored division, I was there.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
And that's kind of a cool thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt schlichter
I don't know if it's a highlight of my life, but it was, I would not, I would not miss that experience for a world.
I wouldn't miss my experience in basic training, my experience in Oscar Canada at school, even though that sucked and probably the worst 14 weeks of my life.
But, you know, I think those are, I think shitty experiences are important too.
chase geiser
Well, I think there could be a component of it too, where people are really yearning for something to live or die for that's noble and heroic.
And I think that somehow in America, we're moving away from people finding out for themselves what's going to fulfill them versus just sort of doing what's expected of them and expecting that to fulfill them.
Right.
So like you always knew you were going to write and 99% of people will say, oh, you don't want to be a writer.
They don't make any money, but you didn't give a shit.
You were just doing what you were interested in.
kurt schlichter
Yeah, I never, I never asked anybody.
I knew I was good and I would, I've always assumed I'd succeed at whatever I put my mind to.
chase geiser
Right.
Right.
kurt schlichter
I mean, it's not like ego.
It's just, you know, if I work hard enough, I'm going to do it.
chase geiser
Right.
kurt schlichter
I wouldn't.
chase geiser
Well, and you can, you can, you can tell yourself that you're good enough without telling yourself that you're better than everybody else.
I think people missed it.
kurt schlichter
I don't compare myself to anybody else.
I'm not in a competition.
I'm although, well, look, I am competitive, but I don't see myself in a competition.
I'm not, well, I'm going to write a book to show so-and-so.
It's like, I'm going to write a book.
And oh, if it sells better, hey, cool.
I win.
And if it doesn't, well, I got an art book in me.
We'll see then.
chase geiser
So where do you think America is headed over the next 10 years?
kurt schlichter
I think it'll get worse before it gets better.
I think there's going to be a backlash to this critical race theory idiocy.
My friends who are very deep into polling and politics, you know, the mechanics of politics, the actual science as opposed to the art, tell me that critical race theory is polling right there with herpes in popularity.
chase geiser
Well, everybody has it.
kurt schlichter
Exactly.
And it doesn't seem like you can get rid of it.
Even liberal moms are getting sick of this.
Their kids come home and go, hi, mom, we're all racist.
Did you know that?
And it's like, okay.
And even a liberal woman's going, no, that's most of them.
No, that's, that's a lie.
That's simply not true.
Why am I, why is the school I'm paying for, whether privately or publicly, why making you lie?
And they don't like it.
Now, I mean, there are some people who really like it.
They are never the ones who are expected to pay the costs of it.
You know, It's always somebody else who's privileged, you know, who's, you know, poorer and objectively less privileged in every way, who's really the privileged one.
When you see a billionaire hand over all his billions to a bunch of people based on where their great-great-grandfather came from, let me know because it ain't ever going to happen.
But if it did, I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
Yeah, it's, you know, again, it's everything.
The thing about America is it was built by hard men who did tough things, and they created a place so safe and secure and prosperous that we can tolerate frivolous nitwits.
You know, there was this, I saw on Twitter today, National Geographic, how far it's fallen, had a picture of this, you know, human walrus.
I mean, she obviously had not missed a meal, shaved half her head, you know, pierced.
I mean, she looks exactly like what you'd expect to waddle out of a gender studies program at Gumbo State.
And she says, I, you know, I'm ashamed of, I'm ashamed of my the race of my ancestors.
And it's like, holy shit.
How wonderful a society do we have when someone feels not only safe enough, but secure enough to, you know, economically and socially to spew that kind of idiocy with the expectation not only that people aren't going to point at punch her or point and laugh at her, but some will celebrate her.
Look, I was in Kosovo.
unidentified
Okay.
kurt schlichter
I know a little about Balkanizations because I lived in the Balkans.
And my job was to keep group A from committing genocide on group B, which they would do in a heartbeat.
So when people start, you know, when people, people start separating by race, you know, I've been at the bottom of the slippery slope and it looks like a, it looks like ruins.
Okay.
It looks like smoldering burnt villages.
And I've been there.
And, you know, I mean, how ridiculous.
What a ridiculous person.
All of society should laugh at this woman and hurt her feelings.
So maybe she'll learn.
But it's so, and the thing is, she's absolutely, she's not only safe in certain quarters, she's going to be celebrated.
And for what?
Saying exactly what everybody, all her friends want to hear?
unidentified
Woo!
kurt schlichter
You know, dodge that bullet.
chase geiser
Well, what's crazy to me is how hated I think MLK would be by the left today, because his whole I Have a Dream speech is literally judge on the content of character, not the color of skin.
And so this idea that your immutable quality of your race makes you inherently racist or is suffering some sort of white fragility or whatever is just totally antithetical to the whole civil rights movement, in my opinion.
kurt schlichter
Well, of course it is.
But remember, it's all about power.
It's about short-term power for people who are unaccomplished and can't do it in any other way.
I mean, look at what's his name?
Abdul Kendi, what's Ibrahim Kendi, Ibram Kendi, whatever the hell his name is.
Okay, he's a fucking clown.
All right.
He's a joke.
He is a human punchline.
His ideas are stupid.
They're expressed poorly.
He's ridiculous.
How else is he going to become successful?
I mean, really, I mean, what are his options?
That he's found dumb people who are willing to pay him for his idiotic harangues is the greatest thing that could have happened to him.
I understand why people are milking it.
It's immoral.
I'd never do anything like that.
But I have self-respect.
I also have competence.
So it's not like I have to grift the rubes of Manhattan and Santa Monica to make a living.
But he does.
These are unaccomplished people.
There are no one associated with critical race theory has any kind of accomplishment other than in rare cases, election to political office to the extent that's an accomplishment.
That's it.
I mean, you look at these people.
What have they ever done?
Well, they've explored deeply the transsexual influences on 15th century Bolivian poetry.
Okay, doesn't count as an achievement, not achievement, not even interesting.
It god, somebody, somebody wise guy once said, you know, feminism exists, so ugly girls have something to do while the pretty ones are dating.
chase geiser
It depends on what you mean when you say feminism.
I mean, you mean women should be able to vote?
kurt schlichter
No, I mean, radical feminism, right?
chase geiser
Today's feminism is basically just all men are dogs.
kurt schlichter
Well, normal women now are like, I'm not a feminist because that has a meaning, right?
And it's not just, hey, women should be treated, you know, generally the same as men, uh, with you know, some exceptions because of biology.
For instance, I don't think women should be drafted, right?
I don't think men should ever be called mothers.
You know, it's are you still there?
chase geiser
I'm still here.
I don't know.
kurt schlichter
Oh, I'm still here if you can say that.
chase geiser
Yeah, just keep talking.
kurt schlichter
Yeah, but uh, uh, I think for a lot of people, these you know, ideas like basic fairness, like uh uh Martin Luther King expounded on, are accepted by most normal, all normal people.
Okay, there are not a lot of people out there who uh at least, at least on the uh, the towards minority side, are anything like a white supremacist.
I think most people, I mean, I don't when's the last time you met somebody going, you know, you know what, other races are worse than my race.
chase geiser
It's just like you'd be, you know, I have maybe one or two people in my life that genuinely felt that way, yeah.
kurt schlichter
And it's just you know, it's just it's just not part of our experience, it's very passe.
Well, it's just tacky and socially at the threshold level, it's tacky, it's un-American, it's unchristian, whatever.
Uh, it's just not done, and you know, I mean, I hang around with a lot of hardcore conservatives who are supposed to be deeply racist.
And the thing that if you want to delight conservatives, show them someone who's a minority who agrees with them about freedom and about family and about values.
Uh, you know, I mean, they absolutely adore it.
Uh, then you get on the other side where you get essentially rich white liberals who are playing at guilt for something they didn't do for people who weren't wronged, and you know, stupid college students and the politicians who love them.
So, it's just the general fairness where you shouldn't be treated differently, you shouldn't be treated badly because of your immutable characteristics, right?
Is well established, but that's of course not what CRT is about.
CRT is about leveraging uh bullshit racist and real racist notions in order to get short-term power.
Of course, in the long term, that's a bad idea.
The the you know, one thing I have thought for a long time is one of America's greatest achievements is its majority race never really thought of itself as a race, and that gets critiqued.
Oh, you know, everybody assumes whiteness.
Well, no, they didn't, they just sort of assumed something, and most of those people, because they're most Americans, were white.
I've been in a place where everyone thinks first, here's my ethnicity, right?
America was not like that, at least for the vast majority of people.
And I think a vast majority of people, most races.
Uh, why would anyone be insane enough to try and make that a reality?
Why would they try and change that?
This is a great gift in America in the last hundred years, right?
And they just want to throw it away because, you know, hey, I think I can get, you know, hey, I'm Professor Kendi and I can get a slight edge.
And then things don't remain static.
The last, uh, gosh, so the last thing you want is some sort of horrible, horrible, uh, true balkanization.
Uh, it's awful.
I've seen it.
chase geiser
So, I want to be uh conscientious of your time.
I know you only had about 30 minutes this afternoon.
Uh, so, on sort of a final note, um, what do you think the way out is for America to get out of this bullshit?
kurt schlichter
Think there's going to be a, I think there's a growing response against it because it's wrong.
And people sense that when you know, you go to a normal person and you go, Hey, that person over there, you know, his grandfather came from Norway, so we should treat him worse.
And normal people are like, no, that doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, then you're bad too.
And they're like, no, I'm not bad.
Americans are very polite.
You know, and there was a time that if you went up to somebody and go, I really think you're racist.
A person go, oh, shit.
Oh, man, I better take a personal inventory.
Am I doing?
Because no one would ever say that unless they really thought I better, you know, I better check myself and make sure I'm not doing something wrong.
And now it's like, fuck you.
Because it's become, you know, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop taking you seriously.
And that's that's not the situation we want.
I would like a country where people took it seriously.
I would like a country where people, you know, but then again, that also means it's a country where you wouldn't really have to take it seriously because you'd be so such a fringe minor thing that statistically it's just not going to come up.
But now you've got a bunch of people making it come up everywhere and all the time.
And I think that's a bad idea.
chase geiser
Well, thank you so much for agreeing to hop on for a few minutes this afternoon.
I appreciate it.
And thank you.
Thank you for your service in the military as well.
kurt schlichter
Oh, I was a colonel.
I didn't do shit.
chase geiser
I appreciate it nonetheless.
And one more time before we get off, can you let us know about your new book coming out next month?
kurt schlichter
It's called and it's the sixth and the Kelly Turnbull action novels.
It's out there on Amazon.
If you want to check out People's Republic, it's always fun to, that's a fun one.
And then you can read the others if you like them.
Follow me on Twitter.
Go to my locals community where all things curt and read my town hall stuff every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
And then on Fridays, I do a little five or six minute stream of consciousness video, which is always amazing.
chase geiser
Awesome.
Well, again, I really appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
I've really enjoyed this time and have a great rest of your week.
kurt schlichter
Thanks a lot.
Adios.
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