Robby Starbuck, Entrepreneurship, John Cena & America | Marc Lobliner | One American Podcast #6
Chase Geiser is joined by Marc Lobliner. Marc is the creator of Outright Bar, Chief Marketing Officer for TigerFitness.com, Owner of MTS Nutrition, an Ambrosia Partner, a Pro Bodybuilder, a Husband and a Father.
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Well, I mean, I started training for weight training for high school football when I was 13.
And because I needed to put on size to actually play.
So, you know, I just kind of ran with it.
I really enjoyed it.
I enjoyed the process.
I enjoyed the results.
I enjoyed the fact that it was mine to earn, right?
Like, if you, if you play a team sport, and this is why I have my kids all play individual and team sports.
If you play a team sport, you can always put it on someone else why something happened, right?
Like, oh, they scored a goal.
Well, the midfielder, you know, broke midfield broke down, which led them to the defensive back, right?
Or the keeper can blame the defender and football, you know, the running back can blame the offensive line.
The offensive line, the guard can blame the tackle, you know, but in individual sports, like boxing and wrestling, even bodybuilding to a degree, obviously it's more genetically predetermined how much muscle you can gain as like a combat sport per se.
In individual sports, it's you.
And that's why I believe that for children, when you're raising them, you know, I have a rule.
I don't care if you're the worst kid on the field.
You need to play an individual sport, preferably a combat sport.
And you need to have a team sport in your, you know, in your daily or your weekly schedule.
So our kids, you know, they all play soccer and our boys box.
Our daughter used to box, but now she wrestles for her school.
So that teaches them on so many levels areas of humanity that are just being lost.
You know, team sports are quite, you know, team sports are applicable to all areas of life.
I always tell people like what I learned in school is nothing compared to what I learned being a team captain in football.
And with boxing, you know, it's you versus that other person.
And when you're in business, you know, and you're competing for shelf space, like I have the outright bar.
You know how many bars there are?
There's fucking hundreds, thousands.
Yet I'm fighting for 10 spots at quick trip.
So it's, it's, it's a, a metaphor for life.
And that's why sports, and it also keeps them healthy, keeps them from being obese.
You know, there's a lot of positives.
So I always say, like, people like, watch send your kids to private school.
I'm like, well, my daughter's soccer team once stayed.
She has a ring as a freshman.
You know, I don't give a shit about academics.
I really don't.
At the end of the day, I went to a public school.
I'll put my intellect and ability to debate and ability to, you know, go toe to toe with some really intellectual people with PhDs.
I'll put that any day of the week.
I'll debate anybody on any topic I'm proficient in.
I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to go up with Neil Tyson deGrasse about astrophysics, but I'm going to go up and I'll debate his ass all day long about what he said about the fucking vaccine, you know, because both of us, both of us have no, like he has as much business.
He has less business.
He's an astrophysicist, a fucking genius.
When the fuck, like I've been doing health and fitness for fucking 20 plus years, 20 plus years.
I started the health and fitness industry.
I was 17 working in gyms.
At 19, I was actively working within the sport nutrition industry.
You're going to tell, like, he's a smart motherfucker.
Nobody, he's probably one of the smartest men on earth, but just because you're smart at one thing doesn't mean you're not stupid in another thing.
That's like saying that because he's a fucking astrophysicist, Neil Tyson deGrossi could beat me in a boxing match or a bodybuilding stage.
Like, just because you're really good at one thing doesn't mean you're like, okay, Bill Gates, the guy, fucking operating systems, great.
Fucking, I'm not, dude, I'm not going to hate on Bill Gates.
Like, ooh, there's viruses, dude, fucking Windows is a beast, right?
He built a multi-billion, allowing him to be a tyrannical little fat bitch right now.
That's what America is great is that you can go and social media allowed for idiots like me to fucking go toe-to-toe with Congress people and fucking, dude.
I got in a Twitter debate with Pierce Morgan, like the guys I've been watching on TV.
Like that, that's the world.
Like, and we have freedom of speech.
So I can, I can talk about shit that I have no right to talk about or no, I'm sorry, I have a right.
I have no business talking about because we have the freedom of thought.
And sometimes stupid thought is the answer.
Like, think about bodybuilding, dude.
I'm sorry, I'm going on a rant.
No, I love think about bodybuilding, right?
Like, all the shit we know works now, like volume training and high integration.
So in any field, be it sport nutrition, be it bodybuilding, be it just health and wellness, like, and a lot of things like ancient Chinese medicine and ancient tribal medicine are a lot of the herbs that we know work for blood glucose support for all this stuff.
It's because people use it.
Like, you know, like, did you think the Native Americans knew that smoking this leaf will make you high as fuck?
You know, no, they tried it.
And then they're like, shit, now we have studies on THC and its effectiveness.
So for people to say there's no science to back it, every scientific fact starts with anecdote.
So sometimes it's just about trying shit.
And I know that's off the beaten path, but that's that's where I sit is that, look, man, I'm a man of science.
Like, I don't say if you read any of my books from diet books to supplement articles, they all have references and footnotes.
But the thing is, I can type in the most obscure thing on Google Scholar, PubMed.
Oh, all the sales and logic, just the understanding the understanding the logical fallacies.
I mean, what you were just talking about was the ad hominem.
It was the ad hominem fallacy, which is, listen, just because somebody's, there's, there's an appeal to authority fallacy and there's an ad hominem fallacy.
And they're inverse of the same thing, right?
So the appeal to authority fallacy is, hey, just because an expert says something doesn't, you know, doesn't mean that it's true.
And the ad hominem fallacy is, look, just because someone is a shitty person doesn't mean they're wrong, right?
So it's like you hate Trump, but it doesn't mean he was wrong about Wuhan Lab being the source of the virus, right?
Just because he's Trump doesn't mean that he's wrong.
So I'm against anybody, any scientist uses the word proofs or follow the science really doesn't have any idea how science fucking works.
And this coming from someone with a bachelor's degree and a shitty one at that.
So, you know, I'm going to say, you know, for keto, going back to keto, I like it for a large segment of the population.
However, I do not feel that most people can adhere to it.
For fuck's sakes, we're over 70% obese, overweight in this country.
We can't even put the fucking Twinkie down.
So if we can't put the Twinkie down, we're definitely not going to be able to put the fucking, we're not going to be able to put the carbohydrate down.
Well, you're cutting off 33% of the available macronutrients.
A third of you have carbohydrate, fat, and you have protein.
So the thing about low carbohydrate diet or VLCDs or ketogenic diets is you don't fucking need carbs.
You just don't.
At the end of the day, there are essential proteins, essential amino acids, essential fatty acids.
There's no such thing as essential carbohydrate because your body can derive carbohydrate from protein via a process known as gluconeogenesis, where your body converts protein to glucose in the liver.
And there's also ketones, which as the ketogenic diet's named after, where if your body is lacking in both protein and carbohydrate, it goes to fat and then it converts fat to energy via a process known as ketosis.
So you don't need carbohydrate.
However, I will say if you're a performer, if you're someone who likes performing like me, if I went ketogenic, I wouldn't be able to box and weight train in the same day.
I would, but it would be very fucking bad, even worse than I do now.
And I'm pretty fucking bad at boxing.
So, I mean, but I wouldn't be able to perform the way I do now.
I would not be able to run around like I do.
I wouldn't be able to do what I do.
So it just depends.
But for a majority of the population, if you can stick to a ketogenic diet, it's pretty fucking good.
And I really like ketogenic diets for their health benefits.
I like them for controlling blood glucose.
I'm talking about another population that could benefit from it, people at risk for type 2 diabetes.
But at the end of the day, people who are exercising regularly and people who are eating whole, healthier foods.
And I'm going to healthy is a very, very, very fucking great term.
Because you might consider rice to be unhealthy.
I might consider cake to be unhealthy.
Someone else might consider bacon to be unhealthy.
A vegan might consider old meat to be unhealthy because they're crazy.
But yeah, I love the ketogenic diet for a lot of applications.
I truly do.
I don't currently use it, but I've always said this: if I ever retire and stop training is hard, which I don't see that happening, but I would move to a ketogenic diet.
I like the longevity benefits.
I like the fact that it has such great anti-inflammatory properties.
People got to realize that gluten, gluten sensitivity is bullshit.
Like that whole gluten intolerance thing, like the people who literally came up with that literally said are bad.
Yeah, but we would see it at like restaurants too.
Like the type, I don't know if they're just wearing really good like pants, but there was, it was, it was, but anyway, back to back to like what we were talking about outside of the UK.
But yeah, the UK is, it's a beautiful place.
The weather is terrible, but really nice people.
And unfortunately, you know, America has this, like, fuck you, Merck.
A lot of us do.
Well, not as many, but a lot of us do.
Like, just leave me alone.
Like, I live in a community in Tennessee, Brentwood, Tennessee, where we just want to be left alone.
Like, we vote and then we just want to be left alone.
And I think that in the UK, like America will put up with anything for a year.
And I said this in 2020.
Like in about a year, people are going to be like, I don't give a fuck if I die of this thing.
Like, I just want to be left alone.
I don't want to wear a mask.
And it came true because around the year mark is when people, despite Biden winning presidency and despite whatever happened, I think Americans, even Democrats, a lot of them, not the crazies you see on Twitter, which I'm convinced is 25 to 50% bots.
I honestly think that people are like, dude, we just got to let loose.
We just got to let loose.
We just got to live.
We got to figure this out.
And then the people who believe in that, and this is why I love the vaccine, because people who they really think this thing makes them into fucking Thor, like they're immortal.
Like, so I'm like, cool, you do you.
You know, my whole thing is if we would have listened to the idiots, to the meatheads, we would have had a handful of deaths because it comes.
And the guy, they banned him, Zev Zelenko, Dr. Zev up in up in New York, a Jewish doctor, has a fucking yamuka and everything.
There's a really good Texas doctor too that they just had a, that just did like an hour and 47 minute interview about how the government may or may not have covered up a lot of very legitimate therapeutics in order to get emergency use status for the vaccine.
Cause apparently you can't get emergency use status for some of the vaccines if there's alternative therapeutics for COVID.
So like a lot of the ivermectone stuff and the hydroxychloroquine stuff may have been pushed down in order to justify getting emergency use status for the vaccines.
That's the only, but you can overdose on everything.
I can take, I could take seven Tylenol and fucking go into liver failure right now.
At the end of the day, like NAC was just banned by the FDA.
They've tried to do it before.
And it's not because it's dangerous.
It's because it had a drug use patent, I believe, by a pharmaceutical company.
A lot of this has to do with old patents that were abandoned or just not followed through upon.
So the NAC thing, I can see the FDA having grounds.
Now, I don't agree with it, but if you go by the legal process as someone who owns intellectual property, patents, and trademarks, I can understand because it takes a lot of money to put this.
So if the pharmaceutical company is like, shit, NAC is growing, we got this.
Then they have no choice legally but to ban NAC.
Do I like it?
No.
Do I understand?
Yeah.
So as a guy who creates products to help people live long and healthy lives, I have to work within a given system.
Like you ever watched the show MacGyver when you were a kid, like dude would like, he's fucking like, he's on a cliff and he needs electricity and somehow he fucking gets a spark with bubblegum.
You know, that's me.
So as soon as NAC gets blocked, first thing I do is I call all my friends who are smarter than me because I'm dumb compared to a lot of people.
And I talk and I'm researching and I'm fucking Googling and Google Scholar and PubMed digging through my old notes.
And I find out that, hey, whey protein actually converts to glutathione better than NAC.
And then we look at, we have a couple of products we need to replace NAC and we're like, hey, there's an artichoke extract that does really well at converting to glutathione, which is the end goal of what you want from NAC.
So boom, we're able to reformulate.
And I'm able to go and do a video not selling anything saying, hey, guys, here's what we need to do.
I was shadow banned on YouTube for simply mentioning vitamin D in April of 2020.
Before we even called it COVID, I basically, and that wasn't, that was based on me, again, a fucking dumb meathead who gets punched in the face weekly and fucking lifts weights daily.
And, you know, at the end of the day, I was like, well, vitamin D has been proven to be better than the flu shot most years.
That's the tragedy of it because not telling people about vitamin D, they decided to push masks instead of vitamin D. The tragedy of it is that vitamin D is such an awesome solution for all sorts of other health problems, too.
So it's not just this, it's not this myopic solution for COVID.
It's like, listen, if we just educate people to get their vitamin D up, they're going to be generally healthier forever.
85% of hospitalizations at the peak of COVID in New York were vitamin D deficient.
People don't get enough sunlight, and then they tell us to stay indoors and get less sunlight.
And then they, all they had to do, if on day one, Trump came out, you know, God Trump, which somehow these simps are following him, this guy's, I'm sorry, Trump's a fucking idiot.
I'm just, I'm not, I'm not down with Trump anymore.
I voted for him.
I'll vote for him again if he runs against the right person.
But I'm over this guy.
Like after what he did to Snowden and Assange, I'm like, ah, I really wanted him to pardon those guys.
Yeah, well, at the end of the day, Trump's one of them, man.
Like, everybody's like, Trump's one of us.
I'm like, the dude's a fucking billionaire.
He's not one of us.
He's never lived life like a normal American.
He has no idea what it's like to be American, like we do.
Well, unless you're like, you know, a Trump supporter who Trump says HCQ and they go and take a gallon of it, you know, and they don't, and they don't, they don't, they don't actually research what to take and listen to people.
But Dr. Zolenko independently had this.
I looked at his protocol after, and I have time stamps.
All these videos are on my YouTube channel, youtube.com/slash tigerfitness.
All these videos are up there.
Look at March, April, and May of 2020.
It's all there.
And I remember in like July, I saw this Zlenco guy and his protocol was the same as mine, except he made it better because he's obviously smarter than me, a lot smarter than me.
And he has a fucking yamaka, which makes him just look smarter than me.
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And the hair, the fucking thing, the thinking cat.
So I'm just reading about different things like cytokine storms and different things that I've literally spent my entire career trying to prevent as a supplement manufacturer.
And people look at supplement manufacturers and snake oil salesmen.
I fucking wake up every morning and have to take a shower because I'm in this place.
But at the end of the day, there was a big debate in the 2010s, and it was on YouTube, that multivitamins are worthless.
And if there's anything I think that 2020 showed us is multivitamins and vitamins in general are not worthless.
If applied correctly for the right thing, like, obviously, I'm not going to tell everybody to use A&D ointment on their asshole unless they have hemorrhoids, right?
Like, it won't do anything.
It'll just make you have a smoother asshole.
But, you know, you're still whatever.
But if you have hemorrhoids, you put A&D ointment on it, it's probably going to make them better.
So my whole thing is with vitamins, you have to have a reason why you're applying that treatment.
Like, any medication, like, you don't just blindly tell people to take a pharmaceutical good, and vitamins are the same way.
However, there are some daily vitamins that could benefit most everybody.
Now, there will be somebody who has a vitamin D, too much vitamin D. I've seen that.
It can happen.
You can get vitamin D toxicity.
So those people who are, like, on Twitter, I take 50,000 IUs a day.
Well, I mean, vitamin D toxicity is, like, any kind of toxicity.
I'd imagine lethargy and potential liver damage.
Because you're looking at your body, like, any time you're overprocessing things, and that's why alcohol and, you know, oral steroids are so detrimental, because your liver has to process all that stuff.
So your liver processes everything, the air you breathe, the water you drink.
It's your body's purification system.
So I'd imagine if you overdose on anything, like, you look at why Tylenol can kill you.
It's because of hepatotoxicity, which is liver toxicity, HEPA liver.
That's a really, really deep story that can go on, but I'll delve there for two minutes.
So my mom served in the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, saw a lot of shit, killed a lot of people, did a lot of bad things or good things, whichever side you're on, depends who's listening.
For my Palestinian friends, she did a lot of bad things.
Well, and not a lot of people know this, but in the 80s, because the hemophilia medicine is intravenous.
And you have basically have to inject a synthetic version of the factor eight protein in order for your blood to clot.
And in the 80s, it was made from blood donors.
And they knew and they didn't tell anybody that there was hepatitis and AIDS in all the medicine.
And 10,000 hemophiliacs died of AIDS in the 80s because they were injecting AIDS from their medicine and the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't tell them.
And that's why I'm like, don't just trust pharma because it says something.
You got to wait it out a little bit, get a little data.
Well, I mean, even though if there's any I'm going to get, it's going to be a Deno virus because we've used that carrier for so many different vaccines.
That's our vaccine carrier.
You know, my thing is, if you want to get it, get it.
If you want to really rile up the Trump people to hate you, which I try to do at least once every other day, because it's fucking hilarious, you got to say, because it's funny because the Trump people are the ones who are more hesitant on the vax and just say, hey, it's because of Trump, we have these vaccines.
There's just some of the shit that he said was my favorite moment to this day is when he was in that debate with Megan Kelly and Megan Kelly asked him about the things he said about women and he goes, only Rosie O'Donnell.
But like, I don't think there's anybody who can explain how like, and I'm going back to the Rahner election.
Like, I remember when he won and I'm like, how?
Like, how did like he wasn't like, I can't, like, Starbucks' a good looking dude.
Like, I can imagine him winning and fucking shaking things up, right?
You know, in our Democrat district, because he'll bring out the people who normally were like, I'm not voting.
It's just going to go liberal anyway.
And he's like, he's good looking.
He's tall.
He stands for something.
He's got the Cuban thing going for him.
Like he's the guy, right?
But Ronner was fucking looked like his face went through a cheese grater.
Like he was fucking weird.
He talked funny.
And yet he got like, he won by a good like seven, seven points.
He crushed it.
And there's no explanation.
Then you had Cooper or whatever his name.
I think it's Cooper winning in North Carolina after some fucking, oh, well, it was because of the tranny bathrooms.
I'm like, I don't think that's big enough.
I don't think most people care.
You know, I think if anything, most people don't want them.
From what I, from my personal experience, I've never met, and I speak, if you go to any of the events I go to, it's not a bunch of rich white people from Brentwood.
Like I'm usually one of the minority at every event I go through.
In fact, politically, most of my friends and people I hang out, they're apolitical.
They don't give a fuck.
So, and most people are like, dude, I don't think dude should be in chicks' bathrooms.
And that's just, that's just, and that's not necessarily my opinion.
Like I'm like, I look around and I'm like, I'm looking at like, but it's stuff that normal marriage, like my neighbors and I don't go, hey, so algebra, racist as fuck.
You know, it's like, nobody does that.
Like that's just a social media and political like talking point.
But the talking point doesn't come up in real life.
Like not even in local politics.
Like, you know, and like critical race theory.
I don't know about enough about critical race theory to really opine other than talking points on both sides.
But I will say it doesn't make sense on the other side on the side that wants it.
Like, I'm like, why are we even, why, why, why do we have race theory at all?
Like, why don't we just fucking go on and like get along?
Like, you know, I'm Rodney King, man.
Can't we all just get along?
Like, who gives a fuck?
I don't like at the end of the day, man, there's no country in this world, in this land, in anywhere that has a clean slate.
Like I said, in the fucking 40s and 30s, we threw Asians in internment camps.
Like every country, every culture has been fucked over in some way.
The Irish, the Polish, everybody, except the British.
yeah the only the reason i was i wore mine uh it's just because um i didn't want to make anybody feel uncomfortable oh i'm all about making people feel uncomfortable it's kind of my thing yeah i mean i've been doing this since i've been doing this since like the 80s it's all good like i mean you know i was that one guy healthy even my kids like in school like my daughter gets hemiplegic migraines and i was like um we're not doing the masks and they were cool like our district was like yeah okay and then
my other kids since it can be genetic they're like i'm like i need to help this up my kids wore masks for a little bit but even in school like they were the kids without masks and um then the other kids figured out you can do the health exemption so then half the school didn't have masks i think so like how many how many under 18 year olds actually died from the virus this year like two like a handful right like two like less than would die i mean you're more like my good friend if you're under 18 you're definitely more likely to die from the flu
oh absolutely i know that the flu's a bitch the flu i've known people who've died you know when i was a kid the flu's a fucking bitch i think the flu is the underrated mvp of viruses well and when you think about the sickest you've ever been oftentimes it's the flu like i think about when i was a kid with a bottle of seven up just like all day you know when i first moved to north carolina is the last time i got the flu i was 26 and i remember sitting in bed and i remember i wanted so bad to get i had to get work done
i just started salvation and i was just like i had work to do and i couldn't and i'm like i'm one of those guys who like if i'll run a marathon it'll be a horrible job but i will drag my fat ass over that finish line i couldn't get out of bed no matter how and i was like let's do it i was getting hyped up in my head my fucking body wouldn't move and i'm a healthy 26 year old athlete right like dude the flu is a bitch and i think the one thing covid
taught me if anything well other than the whole like tyranny thing is like fuck dude the flu is a war like we need to really really really pay attention to the flu like i don't even like kids got it like i never thought twice yeah fucking give me some tamiflu it'll be good tomorrow and then i'm like ah you know kids kids get the flu and i'm like get the fuck up you're fine you know now i'm like uh yeah maybe i was wrong about i was totally wrong about the flu so i claim i wasn't wrong i've been right all along about covid 100
the flu wrong i was wrong about that thing the flu is a bitch like i ain't even mad like the flu scares the shit out of it yeah well it kills i mean i average this it kills over 50 000 people a year in the united states except for nobody died from it last year two people like like you cured the flu well that's because of masks but what about covid ah different thing i'm like but they're both okay no no no no no you just marked flu deaths as covid deaths that's that's what happened well i
wouldn't be here's the thing though do we know and this is me being me do we know if the flu the flu was also with covid like so if you're if a virus penetrates your cells wouldn't that make it more susceptible to other infection i don't know but i would think so but i don't know i would think that if your immune system is working on fighting one infection it's more vulnerable to others that's what i would think but i don't know what what if like what if the flu or covid interchange them came in was like
haha i got in and then covid is like ah i'm gonna sneak right in here and then you got two viruses and they just tested for one well think about it like this man virtually obviously we know that the the most vulnerable portion of the population for covid is the elderly population right and in my opinion the lifestyle for elderly people in the united states didn't really change that much the last year right like maybe maybe the health care providers in the nursing homes change some
protocols but those people are primarily sitting in their apartment or the their retirement community living space, right?
Anyway, and so it doesn't make sense to me that you could explain away the flu as not occurring in our society last year by saying that it was, you know, people wearing masks and people isolating.
It's like, you know what?
The population that normally dies from the flu is also the population that normally dies from COVID.
And their lifestyle wasn't really that different this year.
So you'd think that you'd see the same similar flu numbers, maybe a little bit lower, but except Florida, I think the old people got out more.
And I think that can explain their rate.
Like it's sunny.
People were active.
They didn't partake other than like the first two months in any lockdown activities.
They were out and about doing their thing, and especially in Southwest Florida.
So I can argue that if you look at the active elderly population, they actually had a pretty good fucking year.
I mean, if you look at Florida and other warmer climates, so you know, like I always say, like I'm a proponent of in the winter, I'm a proponent, one of the few of indoor tanning for those who live in the Midwest.
Well, the thing is, not only like here's not only does your body get vitamin D, it gets two other isomers of vitamin D, including vitamin D, I believe, sulfate, um, from actual sun exposure that it doesn't get from supplementation.
So there's certain isomers or different factions of vitamin D that you get from sun or UV exposure that you do not get from supplementation.
So supplementation isn't always the complete answer, it's part of the answer, but to get the full spectrum of what your body needs, you definitely should have some sun exposure.
And that's where I like you.
And even if it's once a week for four minutes, you know, out of on a fucking 20-minute bed, just some UV lights, some sun exposure just to get those nutrients in your cell.
And that's why I think you have such bad, like I've never heard of a flu season just shutting down Florida.
I just haven't.
Yet, my school, my kids' school in Tennessee, which gets colder and cloudier in the winter than Florida, they had to shut down.
This is a month, like two weeks before COVID hit.
They had to shut down for two days to clean the school down because of flu outbreak.
So I do think it's seasonal.
And I do think that it has a lot to do with sunlight.
People don't understand the power of UV rays and the power of the body and the mind and everything.
And when you live in the Midwest or one of these Northeast states, and that could be a lot of people are like, they compare the rates in Texas and Florida to Michigan and New York.
And while I love it to dunk on the COVIDs, I don't think it's, I don't think it's not fair if you're living in a sunny state, right?
I just think that if you live in a sunny state like Tennessee and Florida and Texas, all the states that did well, despite we never had a mask mandate in Tennessee, while I do like pointing it out because it's fun and it looks like we're winning, at the end of the day, I could also explain that as devil's advocate to the fact that, well, there's sunlight, but then again, these are the same people who argue for lockdowns, which would take away your sunlight and close down gyms.
So, you know, either way we win.
Either way, the argument for Tennessee, Florida, and Texas staying open, either way, it's a winning argument because the same side that is from those areas that claim that lockdowns work, they're also basically encouraging people to not get natural sunlight.
And so, so, yeah, the argument works either way.
But if I want to play devil's advocate, if I was on the other side, I would point to that, but then I'd also have to admit that lockdowns are wrong.
There's very little data to no data, and the data on it does not suggest.
Again, I'm using the word suggest, not proof.
Thank you, Fauci, fucking idiot.
Um, so it's it does not suggest at all that indoor tanning will affect seasonal affective disorder or SAD.
However, anecdotally, it does.
Anecdote 100%.
When I come out of a, when I come out during the winter, I'll go once, twice a week.
And if it's a 10-minute bed, I'll do four minutes.
I don't go the full time because I do believe that there's, it's, it's dose and duration, right?
Like skin cancer is real.
And if you tan a lot, it's, it's gonna, it's gonna put you at a higher, a higher um risk, exactly.
I want I'm a fucking one-syllable word.
Get out of this food.
I know, it puts you at a higher risk for skin cancer, melanomas, and this and that.
Um, so I like, so what are the benefits?
What is the minimum effective dose?
What is the MAD?
What is the minimum effective dose to get the benefits?
And for me, it's around 40 to 50% of the total tan time for one to two times a week.
And for me, it not only makes it so I'm not translucent because I'm a very white individual, but it also makes it so, which I'm vain and I like looking a certain way.
I'm not going to deny my narcissism.
But it also in my personal, personal, unscientifically founded anecdotal evidence.
I want to state that very clearly.
It does help me with my mood, or at least it placebo my moods.
You know, it makes me feel better.
That's just me, because in the winter, even if it's sunny out, I'm covered.
Like the thing is, people like, oh, I got sunlight, but you're wearing a fucking puffy jacket.
Like, you got to go outside and you're nude.
You got to be as naked as possible, go out by the pool, put on your fucking speedo and get some sunlight.
You know, just be like a European.
And that's the, that's the way you got to do it.
I believe, I don't know which one, it's not, not the, obviously not the dermatologist, but I believe they recommend 15 minutes, a couple times a week of exposed or un no tanning lotion and shit, sunlight exposure.
Yeah, it's hard to, I've heard that you can get your, your, your vitamin D for just 15 minutes in sunlight, which is funny that people struggle to do it.
We were at Disney and Brandon Curry, he's black, but he pays, they're also health freaks, even though he's a 280-pound bodybuilder.
They're health freaks.
And he has an app because black people have harder time absorbing vitamin D. There's an app and I don't know what it's called, but you could probably search it in the app store that tells you based on your sunlight where you're at.
So, I mean, you always want the alternative and the grass is always greener.
My opinion, what I think will happen, assuming they fix what might be voting irregularities, I'm saying that very cautiously because I don't want to be accused.
I don't, I tend, and maybe it's just because I'm naive and optimistic and I don't want it to be true, but I tend to think that the election, there wasn't significant cheating, but it was incredibly cheap the way that they won by changing the voter protocols, only harvesting votes from Democratic areas.
If you're dirt poor, you should vote Republican because if the currency's inflated and you don't have any assets in the market or any resources in the market, then you're screwed because you just lose buying power.
And I actually, I think that's what happened to the black community in America that put them over the edge from the nuclear family, very Christian values to this crime-britten situation that we're in now.
I think it was inflation in the 70s because when you're on the edge of getting by and the value of everything you own drops 10%, that's when bad things start to happen in your community.
Some people, some restaurant owners have, were so smart.
God, I learned so much.
Like I saw this.
I'm like, dude, there's a way in that the worst thing you can do is just rely on Grubhub and Uber Eats because they take like, so we're on Grubhub with Tiger Fitness locally in Loveland, Ohio.
Like we go to Core Life Eatery out here in Kava and like, I will not use, I will, and usually the websites for local businesses are garbage and calling it is a pain in the ass.
But it's either they make $2 or they make $20.
And I'm going to make sure they get every dime and I'm going to make sure I tip the shit out of them, even if the food sucks.
Okay.
That's so there were businesses that had not only referral codes, if you refer to a friend where you got money off.
So if they're giving, let's say, a $20 voucher per referral, they're still making more money than if they sold on Uber East.
I saw, there was my buddy Seth Conklin, who's actually, he was on Operation Dad bought.
I took him under my wing.
He's lost like 70 pounds, killing it.
And, but he actually delivered beer in Michigan.
He was telling me about these restaurants that were crushing it.
And I'm like, well, how?
And he was telling me, I'm like, holy shit.
So there is a way there's only American ingenuity is great.
What we're going to see is a shake shaking out and the cream will rise.
And we're basically seeing, I hate to say this word, it's cliche, but the great reset in that the best business minds have made it.
The people who made it through lockdowns, their business, remember, my competitors at other internet sites and sell nutritional goods are down tremendously.
We're up.
So if you made it through, if you simply plateaued or survived, the next five to 10 years is going to be complete.
I moved from California to Texas last year and it was because of the taxes.
Yeah, it's terrible.
And that's one thing that as a small business, as a business owner, you feel it differently than if you're an employee, because when you're a small business owner, you write the check.
It's not automatically withheld.
It's, you know, like, that doesn't feel the same.
And in my opinion, the solution to hype to taxes is to eliminate automatic withdrawal and make people write the check every year.
He said anything or he said that Tony Schaefer told me that Barr called him.
Bill Barr called him directly and told him to stop looking investigating election fraud.
And so that went viral.
Yeah.
Tony Schaefer was a fascinating dude.
He first kind of came into the public eye because he came out with some intel about 9-11 after 9-11 happened, basically saying that the government knew who the terrorists were and they were, they should have done more kind of proactively to prevent 9-11 than they did.
And that was kind of how he came into the public eye.
And then now he's, he owns like an intelligence consulting firm, I believe, called, what's it called?
But what I was saying is I'm doing this podcast and I've committed to doing it for a year, no matter what.
Like I'm going to do guests every week for a year and see what happens.
But like, I don't know how I don't have a business model for it.
I don't have like a plan for how it's going to make money.
I don't know if it's going to be Patreon down the road or if it's going to be ad revenue from YouTube down the road.
I don't know if I'm going to get canceled for having people on.
I don't know what's going to happen.
But that's the nature of entrepreneurship is you just, you have to kind of trust your gut and hustle it and make sure you pivot as you go to figure out what's what's going to make it work.
I mean, that's, that's pretty much the nature of life.
And that's what separate, that's what an entrepreneur is.
And that's why I know my limits to how big I could take companies.
I start things.
I create things.
My mind's always working.
And, you know, I'm not going to run a $150 million company because I'm not smart enough.
Not for that.
Like I'm a startup king.
I'm good at startups.
In fact, opinion, like being able to say what you're good at is not a bad thing.
It's knowing what you should focus on.
I'm not trying to run.
I'm not Jeff Bezos.
I don't need a trillion dollar brand.
I'm cool.
I'll get what I need.
I just want my family to be able to have generational wealth.
And I want my employees to be taken care of.
And I want that's that's what I crave.
So I'm very focused on that.
That's not, it's not by any means being cocky.
That's being, that's knowing what, that's staying in your fucking land.
Like I'm not saying I'm going to run this multi-billion dollar.
No, I'm an idiot.
I'm going to start something.
I'm going to say stupid shit and I'm going to get out of it before I get too big that I get canceled.
So that's, I can't play the politic game.
Like, you know, I was on a TV show with John Cena and he's gotten, he's become larger than life where a dude literally to save his career had to apologize in China.
And I saw that's something that I think is true of a lot of entrepreneurs is that they are hyper focused on what is within their circle of influence.
And that's part of why they're successful and productive because they don't worry about shit they can't control and they hyper focus on the things they can control.
Like, what am I going to do today?
Right.
And I think that's the same thing for bodybuilders, right?
Like you said that generally speaking, you know, bodybuilders, they may be apolitical, but if they were to lean one way or the other, it's probably conservative.
And I think it's because they believe in like what an individual can do to change their environment rather than relying on what the environment can do to change the experience of the individual.
Bodybuilders are like, I'll take care of my health.
And fitness people in general, the fitness community, you know, the real fitness community, you know, not the ones who are like, I'm not going to the gym because there's germs.
You know, the real fitness community understands that it's a personal responsibility thing.
If you came to the Rumble in the Borough, it was probably 15% Caucasian.
Like the rest were just a mix of everything, everybody.
And nobody wore masks.
Everybody hugged.
Everybody had a good time.
Fitness community is the most, is the closest thing to a beautiful, you know, integrated, non-giving and F country.
You know, it's an amazing thing.
You go to an event like the Rumble and Brooks, who we'll be having next year to benefit children's cancer.
You know, that's why I love my industry because it's misunderstood.
And if you look at the good, like we had these people, like we had four Mr. Olympias, we had, you know, everybody come out.
We didn't pay anybody.
Everybody came on on their own dime to raise money for charity.
And we're supposed to be the self-centered narcissists.
Like we had people take time out of their day and these people don't have many weekends free because they're always doing events they get paid for.
And they came out for children's cancer.
Like that's, that's what the fitness community is.
And it is, it's a lot of conservatives, regardless of skin tone, regardless of religion, regardless of anything.
Like it is a very, and when I say conservative, I say freedom.
