Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin - I Explain to Steven Crowder How Bad it is in Britain

July 24, 2025 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin

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I Explain to Steven Crowder How Bad it is in Britain

It's pretty bad. From his Rumble stream: https://rumble.com/v6wkn2o--guess-whos-back-colbert-free-speech-and-is-obama-going-to-jail.html?e9s=src_v1_homepage-player-lineup

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	An employer must not permit a third party to harass a person.
	Obey is an employee of person.
	A. Meaning that the employer is the one on the hook if an employee feels offended.
	And this could be a lot.
	Do I have that about right, Carl?
	Yes, that is 100% correct.
	This is exactly what they're going to do.
	It sounds like unworkable nonsense because it is.
	But the thing is, people have got to remember that the Labour government that we have are they are just unreformed communists.
	Europe has fallen.
	I mean, I hope he's okay with me saying that.
	I think that he agrees.
	And he's been a longtime friend of the show.
	He's actually one of the earliest guests that we had on in 2016.
	You may know him as Sargon of Akkad.
	And that may not make sense to you if you're not a historian.
	But some people know him as Carl Benjamin.
	Let's bring on Sargon Carl Benjamin of Akkad.
	And he's the host of the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
	And you can go to lotuseaters.com.
	Carl, which did I miss any plugs?
	Because you're all over the place.
	In a good way.
	No, I think you got them all, man.
	Great to see you again.
	It's been a while.
	It's good to see.
	And look at you.
	When did the suit start being a thing?
	Was that when you ran for office?
	No, it was after that.
	I got shamed by Calvin Robinson, a friend of mine, Christian pastor in America now.
	And he was like, look, we should be dressing nicely.
	We shouldn't be dressing like Yanks, right?
	And I was like, that's a good point.
	Well, you still have time to make up for because Carl used to come on the show looking like you were perpetually recovering from the night before.
	I gave it a shot.
	It's been a long time.
	There's so much going on.
	And I was obviously raised in Canada and it's a silly place.
	And I always try and point people here in the United States to the rest of the West where I go, what would the left do if they had completely unfettered power?
	And we certainly see that in Canada.
	And for those, I want to get your take on this, but I do want to run a clip for people who aren't familiar.
	In the UK right now, there's a new bill that is basically on the verge of criminalizing.
	Now, you know that they've criminalized speech, people watching.
	You know they've criminalized speech.
	You know that you can't say things that are too offensive.
	There's hate speech, of course, and people were arrested for doing karaoke covers of kung fu fighting at bars.
	But now a new bill would potentially criminalize small talk at the local pub.
	If you worked in a pub and you heard conversations by some of the people that you were serving that you found offensive on the grounds of race or gender, which this bill actually says, you could take your boss to court for not doing what you deemed was appropriate to stop it.
	So basically marching out someone from the pub for making a joke that you don't like.
	Yeah, so we're back here, of course, with Carl.
	Just to be clear, for people in the States, who mean that it passed a pretty crucial step toward becoming an official law, they go through a parliamentary system there.
	And according to the bill's text, I want to be really clear.
	An employer must not permit a third party to harass a person.
	Obey is an employee of person.
	I. Meaning that the employer is the one on the hook if an employee feels offended.
	And this could be a lot.
	Do I have that about right, Carl?
	Yes, that is 100% correct.
	This is exactly what they're going to do.
	It sounds like unworkable nonsense because it is.
	But the thing is, people have got to remember that the Labour government that we have are they are just unreformed communists.
	For example, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, when she took her office, she took down a portrait of one of Margaret Thatcher's economists and put up a portrait of the founder of the Communist Party of Great Britain in its place.
	Keir Starmer is also just an unreformed, I think they call them Pabloists, which is a strange strain of radical communists over in Britain.
	And he's been a student communist his, well, basically his whole life, and he never really grew out of it.
	And so everything you see is the continual resurgence of essentially what is the attempt to kind of recreate the French Revolution in Britain to make it so that, frankly, there is nothing outside of the purview of the state.
	I mean, even, I mean, this particular bill is so unbelievably pernicious.
	Because what this does is takes what is normally a kind of regular social interaction.
	Someone in a bar says something, the waitress doesn't like it.
	It's up to the boss to settle the issue.
	But now the state can get involved in just a mere matter of just a slightly offensive terminology or a word.
	And so the state has a license to not only grow itself, but insert itself into everything, even the private conversations that people have in a pub, if it's overheard.
	Well, let me read this because I think I just want to be clear.
	Yeah.
	Just really, really clear.
	Britain is not a country with free speech.
	Now, when Donald Trump and Keir Starmer had a meeting about a month ago or whatever it was, and Keir Starmer just lied through his teeth saying, oh, yeah, we're very proud of our free speech tradition.
	He's lying.
	We don't have a free speech tradition and we've got no constitutional protections.
	Right.
	It's just like that in Canada.
	When I used to do that, America is the greatest country ever, changed my mind.
	I realized I would have to make up other reasons because if I said, well, I think the fact that we're the only country with free speech, like that's enough for me.
	And people go like, well, I guess it's a good thing.
	I'm like, oh, conversation over.
	But then we had to move on down the list because I'm not willing to live somewhere where we don't have it.
	And for people in the States who may not realize, harassment, as you guys call it, you also say aluminium, don't know why, in the UK, it's actually spelled differently, I think.
	Over there.
	In Canada, we spell like color with a U and things like that.
	Is aluminum spelled differently?
	It is.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it is.
	Oh.
	Okay, fine.
	We'll get to that.
	We're actually not mispronouncing it.
	No.
	It's got two different words.
	Well, get to me when you guys pronounce R's correctly.
	Now, it's not, you guys say it like a pirate.
	Ah, R, R, R.
	I guess I sound like a pirate too.
	Okay, that's a watch.
	So in the UK, it's dependent on the victim's perception.
	So harassment basically includes, and this is a quote, annoyance, inconvenience, or anxiety.
	So for example, a man was arrested for sharing a meme of pride flags arranged in a swastika because it created anxiety in someone.
	And we have so many other examples of this.
	So I can give you an example of what just happened.
	Just to be clear on that, all of the hate speech laws in this country are predicated on a person's subjective perception.
	So for example, all of the hate speech laws, you don't even yourself have to report being the victim of a hate crime.
	It can be if a third party perceives that what was said from one person to another perceives that to be racist or whatever it is, they can report you to the police and suddenly, and even if you don't end up with a criminal record, even if what you said doesn't meet the sufficient bar to be regarded as criminal, you can still get what they call non-crime hate incidents.
	So someone somewhere has said something naughty.
	It's not a crime yet, but it's still going on some kind of record that the police keep on citizens who have not committed crimes.
	Honestly, people don't realize just how genuinely dystopian Britain is at this point.
	Oh, yeah.
	And here's the thing.
	This basically, this is communism because it de facto gives the government complete control of your business.
	In other words, any business at any point, any restaurant, it just takes one person saying, I overheard this and it made me anxious and now the government is in your business.
	It's like the IRS only instead of auditing your personal finances.
	It's every interaction in your business.
	I'll give you one where I would claim this.
	I was at Great Wolf Lodge with the kids.
	It's a lot of fun.
	But by the way, they upcharge you.
	Hot tip, if you ever go to Great Wolf Lodge and you use the indoor water park and you take their towels and you don't return them to the kiosk, but you take them to your room like a normal non-savage.
	They charge you $15 per towel.
	So on the third day, I went down with 12 soaking white towels and fucking take them.
	Now, there was a black lady there.
	It's a little mining thing where kids, they do like old prospectors and they have sand and they get to mine.
	It's just the kids have a great time.
	I'm more happy seeing my kids have fun than I think I've ever been.
	So, anyways, this black lady there, very nice, older, portly.
	I do well with them.
	Sorry, Don.
	I do very well with the old black lady.
	I don't doubt.
	My hair was all over the place.
	It was before I got a haircut.
	She goes, You look like that.
	I don't even tell you, you look like that actor.
	And I'm like, please don't say Dan Aykroyd because I get that a lot.
	I go, oh, is it the she goes, no, Wolverine.
	I'm going to lie, Wolverine.
	I was like, oh, yeah, I got a customer mess.
	She's like, nah, it's kind of burly.
	It's sexy.
	I like it.
	And she had a wedding ring on her finger.
	So it wasn't really flirting.
	But that alone, if I was a woman, I was like, hey, you look like odd job or whatever the hell it is.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, that could be hate.
	That was just an interaction.
	You don't even have to be a woman.
	You could take that to whoever owns the resort and say, look, that's something that's happened to me.
	I'm offended if you're a worker there.
	And again, with all of these things, it is ridiculous and it is terrible that it gives the government all of this power.
	But it's not the worst part about it because people probably won't use this that much, right?
	There are areas of the country that are like San Francisco, such as Brighton or Bristol, where this probably will get used a lot.
	But most of the country is pretty damn right wing, actually.
	And so this will just be considered nonsense.
	And most people will ignore this.
	But the problem that this creates is the legal liabilities and the business load, which is the real issue.
	Because what this is, is the state once again attacking business owners and primarily small business owners.
	Because of course, large businesses will probably end up hiring some.
	I mean, it's not, and the government has literally said it's not mandatory to hire some sort of diversity officer for this or, you know, some whatever they want to call them, woke officer to deal with this.
	But large businesses will, because what it will do is give them some kind of legal protection and make sure that they can stay within the law.
	And it's a much smaller price for them to pay.
	But if you're a small business owner with like a dozen employees, you can't do this.
	In fact, I know I'm a small business owner with like a dozen employees.
	I can't do this.
	And so what this is, is once again, attempting to centralize all business, all commerce, all things under not just the state, but a very narrow band of very large corporations.
	Essentially, the same effect that we saw during the COVID lockdown, where the government locked everyone's small business down, but for some reason, the giant supermarkets were allowed open.
	The Walmarts were still allowed open.
	It's like, okay, but that's no more dangerous for spreading COVID than going down to my local grocery shop.
	Why can't I just go there?
	It's like, well, no, they've just been banned by the government because it's all about instantiating a gargantuan managerial regime that polices every aspect of your life.
	This is why it's truly communism.
	Absolutely.
	And honestly, there's just no getting away from it.
	Well, because communism, right, is you have no right to your own business, right?
	It's about the proletariat seizing the means of production and distribution.
	Now, they know they're already halfway there with banks and with giant businesses that are too big to fail, right?
	They can't really do that with all the small businesses because then it would look like they're going after the proletariat, to use a term, meaning the common working man.
	So to put a finer point on it, this is how you know it's the case.
	During COVID in California, you could shop at Costco but couldn't go surfing.
	In Michigan, you could go to Walmart, but you couldn't go to an outside open-air farmer's market.
	They have lost the ability to claim that they are fighting for the little man.
	But yes, it is because communism is all about the subversion of power.
	Communism, it's about helping people.
	Oh, great.
	What about the inventor of Tetris?
	Oh, he got run out on a rail.
	Most successful game of all time.
	If you guys ever watched, there's a documentary and a movie on it.
	He's not entitled to any of his own profits, but the government is.
	And it really is something that I think Americans don't fully appreciate because they completely take it for granted here in the United States.
	And I think, Jill, you had a question?
	Yeah, so I mean, just going on that broader point, it seems like it's turning citizens against one another.
	It seems like a lot of these courses are kind of built for that.
	Do you think that's just part of the strategy, like lay the groundwork of turning the citizens against one another?
	It doesn't even have to be directed at you.
	You could just hear a conversation that could be offensive and you can take it there.
	Do you think that's part of the bigger play?
	There's this massive communist uprising, essentially.
	So I think that it's important to remember that all of the people in our government, every single one of them, is a fact.
	They're genuinely thick.
	I trust you.
	You can hear them talk on a daily basis.
	You can watch any of their statements.
	You can hear them speaking off the cuff.
	And you realize, oh, this person's an idiot.
	And so I wouldn't ascribe to them grand plans or any future conception of what might happen.
	I don't think they're smart enough to plan for the future and plan ahead.
	I think what they are are people, I think it really comes down to what the nature of ideology is, right?
	Ideology.
	If you think about where ideologies come from, they often come from people who themselves have no experience doing a particular thing.
	For example, in the case of communism, Karl Marx had never run the economy.
	He'd never been in any kind of office.
	He'd never done anything with his life.
	It was a couch surfing loose.
	And he comes exactly.
	And yet he comes out with this grandmaster plan because he doesn't know what he's doing.
	And so what ideology is is a way of programming people who have no particular knowledge or experience of the subject at hand.
	And so what Keir Starmer is doing, the rest of the Labour Party's front bench, the government, what they're doing is they're following a pre-programmed set of instructions.
	For example, they've just reduced the, or they're going to, for the next election, reduce the voting age to 16.
	Now, nobody's asking for this.
	Nobody thinks it's a good idea.
	In fact, when polled, half of 16-year-olds just flat out say this is a bad idea, that they don't think that actually 16-year-olds are capable of voting for an elected government.
	And yet they're doing it anyway because it's part of this programming.
	They've got what it is, is kind of we say communist, but that's not entirely fair because what it is is a kind of liberal extremism.
	And so it's more tied to the French Revolution than it is to sort of 1930 Soviet communism.
	But it ends up looking very, very similar because communism is really the kind of most extreme form of liberalism.
	And so they've got this set of priorities.
	They're like, well, we need to make it so that if there's someone in the workplace who's offended by what a customer says, that person's needs take priority over the business sense of persecuting your own customers or whatever the next thing is.
	And so it does end up looking a lot like communism, but they're not smart enough to understand that's what they're doing, even though they've come out of the communist tradition.
	Like I said, these people are just not that smart.
	But they are inherently, right?
	They do inherently know that, like you said, an uneducated or ignorant populace is easier to control and get into the fold.
	So for example, like they're bringing in tens of thousands of Afghan migrants, which I'm sure will do wonders for your country, while looking at lowering the voting age to 16 so they'll be able to vote sooner.
	We saw that stateside, right?
	Where it's import tens of millions of people.
	So this again, what you're thinking is what a villain thinks, right?
	Because villains are smart people, right?
	Villains have a plan.
	And so they.
	You don't think they have any plan?
	I'm not joking.
	I'm not joking, right?
	Villains join up various data points and say, right, if I do this, this, and this, I'll get these consequences to this end.
	No, our government are stupid, right?
	And so they have separate layers of thought, right?
	So on one layer, for example, on the business level, that's like, well, we need to protect workers.
	This is for workers' rights.
	And that's compartmentalized.
	And in the next view, they go, right, oh, look at all these poor Afghan children who are all 16 years old with receding hairlines and grey beards.
	Yeah, like we need to bring them in and save the poor Afghan children.
	And that means we need to put them in hotels at people's expense and just hope they don't molest that many children, actually.
	And so they don't tie these things together.
	They're not thinking, oh, these people are here to be an army to overthrow the state or something or to overthrow the society.
	They don't think that way.
	They think very much in like what's directly in front of their face.
	And so that's a question of, and really, it all comes down to the kind of dogmatic reign of human rights because human rights in Europe more broadly has been extended to all of humanity, all in all places and all times, but for everything conceivable.
	So you get them saying things like broadband is a human right.
	You know, this is an extension of housing being a human right.
	And it's anything that you would like becomes a human right.
	And that means that any person who arrives on your shores, well, they're entitled to this too.
	So this is why the British taxpayer is currently paying a billion pounds a month.
	So probably something like 1.3, 1.4 million, a billion dollars a month, just housing and giving benefits to foreigners, to people who are born overseas.
	And so we're pissing away loads and loads of money.
	And I mean, I don't want to get into the scope of it because it's actually kind of embarrassing.
	Like, for example, that's okay.
	We don't hold you accountable for politicians.
	That's fine.
	Oh, trust us.
	Everyone in Britain hates our government.
	Everyone.
	I mean, like, one of the famous stats that came out the other day is 48% of the government-funded housing in London is owned by people who are born overseas.
	So we are literally, through our taxes, battery farming foreigners in London for nothing, for absolutely no profit.
	They don't work.
	They're on benefits.
	And we are just paying for them to live here for some reason.
	And then when you combine it with the sort of assault on businesses, we wonder why Britain's economy is just dying on its ass.
	We just throw so much money away.
	And the only thing that the government, and this is another brilliant thing, when they came in, of course, when a new government comes in, they do a budget.
	And everyone knew the budget was going to be painful.
	And they were like, oh, yeah, we're 22 billion pounds in the hole.
	So we're going to have to raise taxes.
	And everyone's like, right, okay, yeah.
	I kind of knew that you weren't going to cut spending.
	And then they raised taxes by 44 billion.
	And it was okay.
	Well, hang on a second.
	What's that for?
	And then they started denouncing things like, oh, we're putting 22 billion aside for carbon capture in the soil or something.
	So a black hole's worth of money is being used for some climate boondoggle when we just can't afford anything anyway.
	It's like this, this whole thing, this whole paradigm is going to start falling down itself.
	And man, do you think it will?
	Do you think it will?
	Because here's the thing: because I will tell you that's not going to happen with Canada.
	It's not going to happen with Canada.
	Maybe Canada.
	Maybe Saskatchewan.
	And it's the closest thing that I've experienced to living for 15 years with a European mindset.
	And I'm at the point where, like, I'm at the point where I've changed.
	People say, have you changed your mind?
	I'm like, yeah, I've changed my mind a bunch of things.
	For example, I think we allowed women's sports because women voted for it, women supported it.
	You deal with it.
	I think it's wrong, but this is the bed that you've made.
	Same thing with Canada.
	I go, you know what?
	You get the country you deserve.
	And at some point, maybe we'll take you over.
	That's where I am at this point.
	I just don't know if the people in these European nations.
	I mean, I hear what you're saying.
	They don't feel representative, but they do have other choices.
	Britain isn't really a European nation.
	Britain is an Anglo-nation.
	And so it's these rules are being imposed upon us despite there being no public mandate for this.
	The only reason we had a Labour government is because we were on track to get a Conservative government.
	Not that they're any better, just FYI.
	But Nigel Farage kind of kneecapped them going in and took about a third of their voters, which split the vote, us being a first-past-the-the-post country, and allowed Keir Starmer to get this kind of royal flush in the election.
	But that also meant that he got hardly any votes.
	Out of all of the people who could have voted, only one in five voted for the current government.
	So everything they're doing, and they're doing really radical things, it has no popular mandate.
	And so at the moment, the country is a tinderbox.
	There was the stabbing in Southport last year that you could see the very first sparks of genuine civil unrest in this country.
	And the Afghan thing is just incredible, right?
	So under the Conservative government, because the Conservatives are just the Labour Party with blue stripes, they decided what they needed to do is sneak in about 25,000 Afghans who had apparently, quote unquote, helped us in Afghanistan.
	Now, it's unlikely that that's the case.
	And the Taliban weren't out to persecute them anyway.
	Because what good would it do the Taliban?
	They've already won.
	They allow women in college now.
	No, that's right.
	Sorry, they promised, but no, many days.
	Well, they don't.
	I'm not endorsing the Taliban or anything, but like, you know, the British people.
	Although sometimes maybe they have a point.
	Their bitches aren't so licky.
	Go ahead.
	You know, they had a point on the heroin, actually.
	They just took the drug addicts off the streets and put them straight into rehab.
	They were just like, no, we don't care.
	We don't believe in human rights.
	You haven't got human right to be a drug addict.
	Right.
	Plus, unlike Fenny Mill, it's natural.
	It's a plant, man.
	Continue.
	But anyway, yeah.
	So the point is they've snuck them in.
	But the thing is, they're entitled to bring their relatives with them, their dependents with them.
	So it's probably going to be something like 200,000 Afghans that our government has people trafficked into Britain against the wishes of the population.
	And they took out a court injunction to make sure no one was allowed to know about it.
	And it's only recently that this was overturned and we got to know.
	And so everyone's just like, my God, the levels of betrayal of the British state against the population of Britain itself is just unimaginable.
	And so, like, we've got so many things piling on top of each other.
	We had an incident in Epping a couple of days ago where you'll be shocked to hear one of the people who broke into our country, an illegal immigrant, there are lots of them getting on boats, sailing across the English Channel, breaking into the country.
	And when they get about halfway through, for some reason, I mean, we're an island, so you think actually defending our borders would be really easy.
	Like the Germans never made it across.
	You know, the French never made it, the French haven't made it across those waters in a thousand years.
	And yet, every day planes kind of screwed your planet.
	Sure, but that's not the way they're getting across.
	Every day, 700 or so men arrive on our shores, and our government just, oh, great.
	Would you like to come in and sit in a nice hotel?
	Would you like some spending money?
	And would you like to just be left free to roam around the country?
	And they're like, Yeah, okay, great.
	And so one of these men in a place called Epping in Essex molested three children.
	The residents weren't happy.
	They went out, they started rioting.
	The police got involved, obviously, because it got a bit hairy.
	And this has been an instant of incredibly high tension.
	And so what they've done is they've moved these people out of this hotel to a different hotel.
	And people have followed them there to protest at that hotel.
	Because the point is, we shouldn't be allowing foreign rapists into the country and paying for the privilege.
	Like, it just doesn't.
	I don't need to make an argument for that, do I?
	You know, this is just something that should be assumed.
	And yet, this is what's happening to the British people all day, every day.
	And it has been for years.
	It didn't help that they moved the pedophiles to Great Wolf.
	That's the worst place for pedophiles, putting them in Great Wolf Lodge.
	And it's a lot of fun for the families.
	You know what?
	This hotel that they were putting them in was literally down the street from a school.
	Like, it was literally, you could see the school from the hotel.
	And it's like, what are you doing?
	How nice for you to have kids to see at school.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And to give you an idea, it's not like this is this is a surprise.
	We play a game here sometimes where we just look at stories and we cover, we just have the headline.
	And we had one the other day where Lane the Branny goes, Hey, eight men gang raped a water monitor lizard.
	Guess the race.
	It's okay.
	No one needs to say it.
	Whatever you're, yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So that's the answer.
	That's the news version of ethnogasser.
	Pretty much.
	And I will say, I guess the primary difference with Canada and the UK is a parliamentary system.
	And that's why I always tell people, actually, the two-party system, of course, it's flawed, but it's closest to getting a view of the majority of people represented because in Canada, unlike the UK, you're saying they only have one in five votes.
	In Canada, you have the Conservative Party, and the Liberal vote is kind of split between Liberals and the NDP and the Green Party.
	There really isn't like a Nigel Farage type person who takes votes away from Conservatives, at least not to a significant degree.
	So Canada's gone.
	The UK, I don't know how you get it back with the parliamentary system.
	You know what would change public opinion more and it'll never happen?
	And I've talked about this for a very long time.
	That's why we did the gift a gun campaign here.
	Gun rights.
	And the reason that changes everyone's opinion is if someone goes out and just buys a revolver, if that just happens and they go, oh, wait a second, I have now experienced that everything I was taught was a lie.
	I am now safer having a basic firearm in my house.
	It's not going to go off on its own, right?
	I'm not out to harm anybody.
	I am safer.
	I am protected.
	And that turns more people at least open to the idea of, okay, maybe the government is not looking out for me.
	I wish there could be a groundswell in the UK on that.
	I mean, I know you guys are allowed hunting rifles and things like that, but the culture.
	Yeah, yeah, we do actually have millions of guns here.
	It's just that they're in the hands of farmers because they use them to farm.
	They use them to kill pests and whatnot.
	But Britain is different.
	In particular, England is different in that since World War II, there's been a remarkable amount of moral unity between the people and the government.
	We saw fighting the Nazis as a unifying moral agenda.
	And it was assumed, and probably with a fair reason, that the government was basically on your side and was going to do the right thing.
	It's only since sort of the turn of the 21st century that the government has decided, actually, maybe communism is a good idea and I'm going to give that another go.
	And has been imposing that on us slowly but surely ever since, proper Fabian fashion.
	And it's got to the point now where the problems that they have created are so stark, but there's nowhere for them to go because they can't blame anyone else because we've been under the same kind of regime for the last 25, nearly 30 years.
	So there's just no one else to point the blame at.
	And the parliamentary system actually is not as bad as you think.
	A lot of people are very sour on it.
	But we have some advantages actually on this.
	Because, for example, when you have winner-takes-all, all people have to do is actually change their mind.
	The parliament is also the sovereign of the country, in de facto.
	And so the parliament can do anything.
	We don't actually have a constitution that they can appeal against.
	So if we get a parliament that says, right, okay, this is all changing.
	We're just kicking all of these people out.
	We're going to repeal all of the European Court of Human Rights nonsense that's making us through the courts that's forcing us to keep all of these foreign illegal men in this country.
	We can just repeal all of that and then just deport them.
	There's actually nothing they can do.
	And all it takes is for about a third of the population in any one constituency to say, right, I'm voting right wing.
	I've had enough.
	And the country can flip overnight.
	So really all it takes is for people to get sick of it.
	And I tell you what, man, the average Englishman at this point is a lot more radical than their government.
	They have no idea how pissed off people are.
	What about the bitches?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	All of the women I know are, I'm not even going to repeat some of the things they say.
	They're quite angry that there are foreign men threatening the children of this country.
	They're pretty angry about it.
	So they don't want it.
	Is it going to translate to change, though?
	That's the thing.
	Are you optimistic that it'll translate to change?
	Yeah, I am, actually.
	I don't think it's going to come through Nigel Farage.
	Nigel Farage has shown himself to be essentially a safety valve for the Conservative Party.
	He kind of, I mean, if you think about the name of his own party, Reform, it kind of implies that he's going to tinker with the current paradigm and try and make sure that that keeps working.
	But that's not the issue.
	What we need is basically a revolution that is going to sweep away everything that was done in the last 30 or so years and return us to a much more sort of traditional and frankly conservative form of country.
	The only person I see on the horizon doing something like that is Rupert Lowe, who Nigel Farage kicked out of the party for being too right-wing.
	But he's the person who is actually saying the things and doing the things that we want to see said and done.
	So I would keep my eye on him if I were you.
	Okay.
	I will keep my eye on him.
	And the show is, I want to make sure it's the Lotus Eaters podcast.
	And people can follow you on X at Sargon underscore of underscore a cod, lotus eaters.com.
	And you can get this up on any of your channels.
	You're always free to grab it.
	We'll send you the file.
	And since you're a business owner, and Gerald, you're a business owner, and I'm a business owner.
	Yeah.
	We need to do Blood Brothers.
	Wait, I'm not a business owner.
	Everyone say the word so that that way it's mutually assured destruction.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I already said it.
	Well, for him, it's a bunch of people.
	I live in England.
	I'm not saying that.
	Are you kidding?
	Can you say something that might get me in jail?
	We'll allow.
	Can you say that?
	I don't know if I can, to be honest.
	I didn't mean to put you in a hot seat.
	All right, you can text it to me later.
	I'm joking.
	It'll probably be fine.
	It's one of those things that you genuinely have to think about, actually.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	You genuinely have to think about it.
	You just made the point.
	Yeah, I'm not.
	I will never do Stand Up in Canada, probably Europe ever again.
	Like, I have a bunch of do a big venue there.
	I'm like, nah, I can't go back because I might not come back to the States.
	They'll arrest me.
	They'll put me in a prisons are, you know, they're a little bit less rough.
	Carloswitz joke in Poland.
	Yeah, they're not being fanned.
	Ed hate it.
	And I love that.
	Carl, by the way, if you guys need any notes on revolution, just let us know.
	Yeah, we can help you out with that.
	Sorry.
	Appreciate that.
	I know it still stings.
	All right.
	Thank you so much.
	We'll talk with you soon.
	Sargon of a cad.
	Carl Benjamin, everybody.
	Oh, you're still here watching this on YouTube?
	There's no more.
	It's over.
	Just like YouTube.
	YouTube is over.
	It's not a thing anymore.
	How many Seth Meyers clips do you need?
	Head on over to Rumble.
	Follow me there.
	Live on weekdays at 11 a.m. Eastern, where we can actually speak freely and don't have to self-censor.
	YouTube is, it's really not a thing.
	Like, you ever seen one of those towns that maybe was like a mining town or maybe they made some kind of alloy?
	You say, hey, I wonder what they did in this town.
	It takes a while to find a person who can tell you what they did in that town.
	And even then, you don't fully understand it.
	That's YouTube.
	YouTube is that town.

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