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March 18, 2025 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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Baghdad Farage

The mask is off now.

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I thought I'd give you an update on the current state of play of British politics, because it seems that Nigel Farage has now basically declared war on all of his former supporters.
It's not enough to say, right, you're ostracized, you're out in the cold.
I'm not interested in ever hearing from you or seeing you again.
I need a series of empty suits to help me ride to power in Britain.
No, he's decided to just go all in and start just attacking us now, which I find very distasteful.
Because it's one thing not to want our help, which is weird because there are lots of us and we have very loud voices on the internet, but that's fine.
The internet isn't real life, as we are repeatedly told.
Let's see how that works out for you.
But like I said, it's one thing to say, we don't want your help.
It's another thing to openly attack us.
And so for the past week and a half or so, after the Rupert Lowe debacle, after he was unceremoniously ejected from the party on a bunch of what appeared to be trumped up allegations, and after Isabel Oakeshott's smug, oh, poor sweet Rupert, isn't he stupid and naive politics?
Well, now she's at the point where she was on Talk TV again and said, can we just end this stupid row?
It's like, you reported him to the police and then kicked him out of the party on the implication that he was under allegations of bullying women in his offices.
None of these allegations were about Rupert.
And the only one that seems to be seems to have come from Zia Youssef.
And that appears to have disappeared into thin air.
No one seems to want to talk about it.
So it's not really just a stupid row, is it?
It seems that actually you were trying to ruin a man's life and ruin a man's reputation as an excuse to kick him out of your party when it would have been better if you'd just come out and say, look, we don't agree with Rupert Lowe.
We want him gone.
Which is, in fact, what Nigel Farage has done.
Farage went on Julia Hartley Brewer's show with whom he is personal friends and said, look, people don't agree with Rupert Lowe.
His language was too strong.
And this doesn't reflect what most people think and feel when actually we know that it does.
Polling shows that 67% of the British public think that illegal immigrants should be deported and the rest of them vote Labour and Greens.
And 99% of reform supporters also agree.
So this is hardly an unpopular position.
This seems to be, in fact, a vote-winning position, an election-winning position, actually, because there is just no justification.
And this was even 52% of Liberal Democrat voters that, you know, the wettest people in the country also agree that illegal immigrants should be sent home.
So why are you equivocating on this?
Why are you prevaricating on this?
Why are we having any kind of conversation about this?
And it's because it's about Rupert Lowe and not the allegations.
And so if Nigel Farage can come out and say, yeah, well, Rupert Lowe's message was just too strong.
I didn't agree that they should just be sent to a Scottish island and left to the midges or whatever, which I have to admit does seem a bit unsympathetic.
Just say that.
Don't then give us this BS where you say, well, look, we'll see about Rupert Lowe coming back into the party if the allegations against him are found to be frivolous and without substance.
It's like, that's not what this is about, clearly.
Everyone can see through this charade.
Everyone can see this is not about the allegations against Rupert Lowe because the allegations are clearly without substance.
This is clearly about the fact that he was frankly more right wing than you.
This was popular because it seems to actually reflect the electorate's opinion.
The British electorate is actually quite right wing overall.
And when you ask them on these certain questions, they'll definitely come out for the right wing position.
And this is why you did it.
Don't pretend.
Don't just lie to our faces and say, yeah, well, you know, I mean, obviously, and he says this to Julia Hartley Brewer, if you were accused of something, you'd be put on gardening leave.
This isn't what this is about.
Everyone can see that that's not what this is about.
This is about the fact that you were uncomfortable with him and you wanted him gone, which is why you said so here.
Just don't speak with both sides of your mouth, man.
Just tell us we didn't want Rupert Lowe in, and so we got rid of him.
And that would have avoided you making up a bunch of charges that he'll probably sue you over.
But anyway, Nigel just came out and decided to call everyone a bunch of racists for criticizing Zia Youssef.
Now, I'm not going to say that he doesn't have a kernel of a point here.
There are definitely online anonymous accounts who are racist to Zia Youssef, but who knows who these people are or where they come from?
He's acting like this is definitely the British electorate doing this.
And you don't know that.
There are lots of Americans who are very interested in British politics who exercise their right to free speech and say a lot of things that you don't want to hear.
You don't know who's done this.
And so why even bring them up?
Unless you have a direct named person that is being racist that you want to level an allegation against.
This is very much as Dan pointed out in the podcast today, just the basket of deplorables comment, but for Nigel Farage and against his own base rather than against the enemy base, which is a much more sensible target to attack, don't you think?
And you can say, yeah, well, Twitter isn't real life, but unfortunately for you, actually, it kind of is real life, which is why you post that.
And which is why people in, say, this Sky News segment, when it was brought up to a bunch of reform voters and other people who were concerned about politics, they did start bringing it up saying, well, I really didn't appreciate the way that Rupert Lowe was talked about and dealt with.
Because, okay, it might be something on Twitter, but this has been reported in the news.
This is a national scandal.
Everyone has seen it.
Everyone knows what right and wrong was in this case.
And so you can't just sweep it under the rung and go, well, it's just the internet.
Yeah, we use the internet.
People use the bloody internet, Nige.
And there is a huge amount that's gone out recently that really hasn't made the Reform Party look good.
According to Michael Fabricant, who's an MP, apparently, reform candidates are being required to sign a non-disclosure agreement before being approved to stand.
That's really weird.
Like, that doesn't happen for any of the other parties.
It didn't happen when I was in UKIP.
It seems that reform are genuinely being run along totalitarian lines.
Why would anyone actually want to sign up for this?
Especially as anyone who gets in bed with reform can be expected to be thrown under the bus the moment it is politically inconvenient to have them in the party.
The only person Nigel Farage has defended is Zia Yousaf from allegations of racism because the company that now owns reform, which is called Reform UK 2025 or something like that, is owned by Nigel Farage and Zia Youssef.
And to say, well, it's not real life, well, are you sure about that?
Because Lord, forgive me for citing Tom Harwood, but he does have a point here when he posts a poll of polls, which as you can see, reform are in the dip here.
Now, this isn't a massive loss or anything.
It's only two or three percentage points, but I thought you were meant to be going up and not down.
So on the poll of polls, if you're going down slightly, that's not good.
And it would indicate that actually you have done something that your base disagrees with and that people more broadly aren't enamored with.
And I am personally just really tired of this Farage Messiah complex.
This, oh, well, it's Nigel Farage or nobody attitude, which is really bizarre because remember, Nigel Farage didn't want to return to reform.
Reform were doing quite well in the polls.
At one point, they reached 17% on the express resentment about what Labour were doing and what the Conservatives were doing.
And so Richard Tyson Ben Habib took reform up to nearly 20%.
And suddenly, that's when Farage decides to step back in.
But that's not the story that he will tell you.
Even though it was this poll when it came out, this originally came out on the 3rd of June.
I don't know why it says 4th of June here.
This poll came out on the 3rd of June that placed Farage in 37% in Clackton.
And that's what inspired him to stand in Clacton, throwing out the other guy and return to politics.
So if it wasn't for the polls already ahead and showing Farage in the lead, he wouldn't have done this.
He didn't go to those constituencies and pound the beat and drum up the support.
And this is what, like, literally his most close right-hand men would say.
Like, I like Gwayne Taller.
He seems like a really decent chap.
And he's a Farage loyalist.
And even he says, look, Farage isn't at the front of waves, but of the waves.
As the wave curls, he's behind the peak.
Which is actually what I've been saying about Farage to insult the man.
As in he's leading from the rear.
He's never actually at the front.
And so as soon as things are favourable to him, he will leap out and say, yes, I will, Nigel Farage, I will do this.
I am the reason that this is happening.
But he's not the reason.
And he's never actually the reason.
I mean, the most recent one he's doing is about the boats crossing the channel.
No, that was independent activists like Steve Laws, an active patriot who went down to the beach and filmed them coming in and often got in trouble with the authorities for doing so.
And only after they'd started breaking this story and it started going viral on Twitter, did Nigel Farage go out there and start making a big scene?
He's never at the front of the wave and everyone knows it.
Anyway, let's go on to what is the point of reform then?
And what kind of party is it trying to be?
Because this is very bizarre to me.
As you can see, Maya here is posting, look, these are the top recent defections to reform, which is not necessarily a great thing anyway, because I mean, turncoats are hardly reliable people.
But anyway, what a weird selection of people for Nigel Farage, Mr. Brexit, to bring on, right?
So globalist liberal Tory Tim Montgomery, yep, from he founder of Conservative Home.
He is a liberal globalist.
Like, I don't know why Nigel would want that guy.
The next one is EU Remainer Charlie Mullins.
Just again, hardcore remainer, hardcore anti-Brexit.
Is that really the kind of person that you expect to bring in?
And of course, a liberal Democrat.
Okay, that's weird.
It's a weird selection.
And then he started revealing more candidates who had councillors who had defected.
One of them being an immigrant Bangladeshi nationalist who's been in the country 15 years and feels very patriotic towards Bangladesh.
It's like, right, what party am I dealing with here?
Like, why, if this is what the party is for, why were you ever using right-wing rhetoric, Nigel?
Like, why would you ever have been saying, oh, we need to save Britain if literally all of these people who these people who represent the problem with Britain and these people who aren't Britain, why are these people the core members of your party now?
Anyway, the question I have then is, what prevents Nick Lowells from being a candidate for reform?
Seriously, unironically, I want an answer to this question.
Nick Lowells, Richard Tice was very proud to have your candidates vetted by Hope Not Hate.
And Gwayne Tala said, yes, no, we did the same thing in UKIP.
We allowed Hope Not Hate to vet our people.
And if they didn't like them, we got rid of them.
It's like, right, the Hope Not Hate are literal communists who want to see the destruction of Britain and everything about our past, present, and future.
What prevents Nick Lowells from standing as a candidate for Hope Not Hate for reform?
Like, is there anything?
Are there any ideological barriers whatsoever?
And the answer appears to be no.
And so in the light of all of this, this complete confusion surrounding the party, the duplicitous things they seem to have done to one-fifth of their MPs, and the fact that they seem to actually be more than happy to bring in a bunch of communists, people are resigning.
For example, Dan Astley here was the chair of Newcastle North Branch of Reform.
He said, no, I don't agree with this.
For some reason, there is also an influx of ex-conservative party HQ staff, which is very concerning.
Why would you be parachuting them in to control local branches?
And why are you acting this way with your core members?
Like Rupert Lowe was in the Brexit Party.
He's an MEP.
Like he's been faithful to Farage for like eight years or whatever it is.
And there were more.
There were more branch officers just resigning, saying, look, we don't agree with the way that Rupert Lowe has been treated and the way the party is being handled.
And especially as it does seem to be quite tyrannical, frankly.
So what exactly are reform building?
And the answer seems to be just a direct replacement, carbon copy of the Conservative Party, including the most left-wing elements, like the Michael Gove faction, the Liberal Democrat faction in it, and all the way to Nigel Farage, who is, I don't know, very Thatcherite, I suppose, the best way you could describe him ideologically, but not in any kind of way that seems effective or would get anything done.
And Nigel just comes out and say, well, look, I want the Conservative Party needs to be replaced.
It's like, okay, but why don't you just join it and take it over and reform it from within?
If you needed a replacement for the Conservative Party, you could have just made one.
But the point is then, well, where does that leave the Patriots?
Where does that leave the people who actually want to fix the country and see the country get better and perhaps return to prosperity?
Where does that leave us?
Well, that leaves us out in the cold.
And that leaves us with Nigel Farage having ridden the wave of populist sentiment, only to come out and say, yeah, I'm not a populist and I hate you populists and get out of my party.
I'm taking Liberal Democrats, immigrants and remainers.
Get the hell out.
You're disgusting.
You're a bunch of racists, actually.
And I don't want to ever see you again.
And in fact, I'm going to trump up charges against the people you like most and report them to the police and see if I can get them in trouble.
That's where that leaves us.
So once again, we are completely homeless and we need somewhere to go.
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