How Influential is the Online Right?
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| Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | |
| Hope you're doing very well. | |
| It's pretty cold here at the moment, but it's Sunday nights. | |
| I couldn't be bothered to make a video today, to be honest. | |
| But I did want to talk about this development of how to describe it. | |
| There's a kind of phenomenon where some right-wing commentator becomes too pressing in the ecosphere, the discourse surrounding various mainstream publications and the journalists who write for them. | |
| And they can't help but say, well, I'm going to have to write something about this chap because I'm seeing his name everywhere and I'm seeing his disciples or acolytes everywhere. | |
| And they're always making similar points around certain subjects. | |
| And they seem to have at least something about the world locked down discursively. | |
| And instead of trying to challenge the ideas, what I think I ought to do is alert my peers to the fact that this problem is coming. | |
| Some aspect of leftism has been upended, uprooted in some way by this fellow and all of his supporters. | |
| And we're never going to hear the end of it. | |
| Unless we get a good handle on what it is exactly we're supposed to be doing and formulate some sort of counter strategy, we're going to have a problem. | |
| And so one of the things that they do is dox people as much as they can. | |
| This isn't a problem for me, of course, because I'm already a known person. | |
| But there have been lots of powerful right-wing anonymous accounts that have come to haunt the mainstream press because a lot of the people involved are actually people who are credentialed or from the upper classes or something like this. | |
| The sort of the elite, frankly. | |
| And they don't know what to do with that. | |
| If these rogue members of the elite have good arguments and good points and they are capable of building large followings, they find themselves slightly in awe of them. | |
| And they end up writing pieces like this. | |
| Here's one from the Atlantic about, and I just want to say, I actually quite like all of the people that we're going to talk about here. | |
| So this is a bit of a pleasure to do this stream because, you know, I've consumed a fair amount of each person's content and I've watched their interviews, watched them speak online and things like that. | |
| And I think, yeah, that person does make some good points, actually. | |
| And the first one is Bronze Age Pervert, which is one of my favourite monikers, because there is something about the kind of Nietzschean vitalist movement I do find appealing, right? | |
| I do find it there this represents an aspect of the human existence that is necessary and valid and has a place in a society. | |
| This is one of the problems I think some of my Christian friends have is were you to be extremely doctrinaire about Christianity, you can see why the left would end up mischaracterizing it and it takes certain kinds of interpretations to not fall into the extreme pacifist position. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| And I'm not saying that Christians are extreme pacifists or anything like that, but you can see why there would be a reading of it. | |
| But if you were trying to get the Christian to just shut up, roll over, turn the other cheek and accept what's happening to them, then You could draw from Christian doctrine to do that. | |
| It's a lot more difficult to draw from the Iliad to do that. | |
| And this is the charm of Bronze Age pervert, as the Atlantic characterize it. | |
| And it is part of the charm of it. | |
| There is a kind of necessity in the vitalist movement that I do find admirable. | |
| And I'm not trying to say I'm one or the other either. | |
| I'm obviously a great lover of Christians and Christianity. | |
| But I'm a lover of the other things as well. | |
| I'm a bit Kanye West on this. | |
| See, I love Christianity, but I love the Iliad. | |
| There's something to the Vitalists that I think is true. | |
| And the recognition that a willed power is a necessary thing is one of those difficult things for many people on the right to admit. | |
| And one of the things that Bronze Age Pervert has done very well is make it apparent that actually there was something transcendental within paganism. | |
| It's not just Bronze Age pervert either. | |
| But people like Survive the Jive and various others who have been trying to bring up the metaphysics of paganism. | |
| And it's something that I've seen. | |
| My Christian friends obviously don't like paganism and the pagan ethos, but they do respect it. | |
| And they do understand that it is a power, that it is a force, and that it isn't just going to go away. | |
| Thousands and thousands of years later, the Iliad is still a compelling book. | |
| The moral system that's set out is still compelling. | |
| I read Julius Evola and I was genuinely blown away by how important some of these observations are in the modern world. | |
| And you can see that this bothers them more than anything. | |
| Because, I mean, there are arguments that woke is basically some sort of post-liberal Christian heresy. | |
| And they are not unpersuasive at all. | |
| It seems difficult to believe that if Christianity hadn't laid the ground for liberalism, that liberalism is, of course, just a secularized version of Christianity. | |
| Tom Holland argues this all the time. | |
| And it's difficult to see how he'd be wrong. | |
| And so it's nice to see a repudiation of these things. | |
| Now, I'm not trying to argue that we ought to have 100% one and 100% the other, right? | |
| Because I do think that the Christian rejoinder to this would be: look, a world that was built entirely in paganism would be a rough world. | |
| And they are right about that. | |
| And it isn't actually the kind of world I'd want to raise my sons in. | |
| However, I don't want to have them completely withdrawn from that world either. | |
| I think that both aspects of the human condition here are being put at odds with one another when, in fact, I think there are times and places for them. | |
| And it's not always appropriate to use one perspective when the other is necessary. | |
| Hopefully, I haven't made too many enemies with that. | |
| But this is genuinely how I feel about it. | |
| There is something about the vitalist movement that is important and should exist. | |
| And I'm glad it does exist. | |
| That's not to say that I don't think there's nothing important about Christianity. | |
| There's a lot that's important in Christianity. | |
| I'm glad that exists too. | |
| So it's good to see these things gaining attention. | |
| And it's also good to see the left recognizing them as something to be feared. | |
| Like the specter haunting the left are right-wing intellectuals, actually. | |
| And that's, I mean, you love to see it because you can feel them in their echo chambers patting each other on the back. | |
| Oh, God, we're so woke. | |
| We're so progressive. | |
| We've got morality figured out. | |
| We've got it all figured out. | |
| We're going to make a better world. | |
| We're on the right side of history. | |
| Isn't everything going to go brilliantly from here on outwards? | |
| If we can just finish the far right, and then looming in the doorway is the shadow of a far right intellectual. | |
| And you can feel the blood running cold in their veins because he's going to say something. | |
| And they'll be like, I don't have an answer to that. | |
| And he's right. | |
| I better warn everyone by writing my little thing in the Atlantic. | |
| Panicking. | |
| By the way, this guy is winning over influential converts. | |
| And Bronze Age Purvert is just the first of many people who have had this kind of treatment from a mainstream intellectual publication. | |
| And I personally view these as the badge of honor, right? | |
| When on the right, if you are a dissident right-wing intellectual, you have truly made it when somewhere like the Atlantic writes a piece like this on you, right? | |
| And this was from last year, September, no, no, September 23. | |
| And I remember when this came out, I was deeply jealous. | |
| Damn. | |
| That's such a cool thing to have written about you, isn't it? | |
| I'll get to the super chats in the end, sorry. | |
| That's such a cool thing to have written about you. | |
| And they're like, who wouldn't want that? | |
| Who wouldn't want that? | |
| And anyway, so they go as much as they can to dox these people because they think, right, we will expose them. | |
| We will expose these evil right-wing anonymous accounts. | |
| And every time it's like, right, okay, great, we've got him, we've got him. | |
| We got the board with the lines connected to everything, the map. | |
| We pinned it all together and we figured out it's Dr. What's his name? | |
| I can't remember what his name is. | |
| This is a chap called Lomez. | |
| Jonathan Kieperman. | |
| But like, what's the deal? | |
| Well, he's a handsome, successful PhD bodybuilder, actually. | |
| It's like, really? | |
| Okay. | |
| Again, this is on Vox.com. | |
| Another mainstream one where they make these people look very cool. | |
| They make them look very competent. | |
| They make them look intelligent and sexy and appealing. | |
| And they wonder why they're getting the rake on the face as Donald Trump takes over and starts posting Napoleon memes, right? | |
| This is just one of those things. | |
| Yeah, Lomez is the originator of the Longhouse meme. | |
| And that started really infiltrating, not percolating through their circles. | |
| Because when you do create a good meme and you name it well, it becomes just a cipher for a whole series of ideas, a whole complex of ideas. | |
| It becomes a very quick way to say it, and it just falls into the discourse. | |
| And Longhouse is one of those memes that just fell into the discourse. | |
| And they understand that they are asking for the perennial eternal Longhouse. | |
| That's what they want. | |
| They want to potentially destroy masculinity, make sure it's completely contained and transmogrified into a kind of subservience. | |
| And that's what Lomez is identifying with the Longhouse. | |
| Seeing, look, this is they're actually trying to destroy your sons spiritually. | |
| This, and you might be want to be aware of it, which is why the word Longhouse resonated. | |
| Yes, that is what feminism has been doing since forever. | |
| And no, that's not good. | |
| And no, nobody wants that for their own children, right? | |
| And so what could they do? | |
| Well, all they could do is, oh, exposed. | |
| Okay, but he's not, he's not some sort of gross slob. | |
| Now what? | |
| It's just, it's so funny. | |
| It's, I've got them. | |
| It's just genuinely funny how they can only make us look good. | |
| They us the online writer's path felt to you. | |
| And then you get the mystics like Curtis Jarvin. | |
| Again, like I said, I like all of these people because they all bring something to the table that's genuinely interesting, right? | |
| And Curtis Yarvin says a lot of things that I don't particularly agree with. | |
| However, I enjoy hearing them say them, hearing him say them. | |
| And it's not that he isn't identifying something that is actually crucial. | |
| Like, for example, last year I went to Miami to a conservative conference. | |
| And Curtis was giving a talk there, and it was a really, really good talk. | |
| And he made a really, really incisive point. | |
| He said, look, the Republicans need to have a plan on how to actually own the libs, right? | |
| As in, it looks like Donald Trump is going to win power, and he did. | |
| And so you have to have a plan to deal with these people. | |
| You need to know what it is you're going to do to bring them on side, at least nominally, right? | |
| At least to the point where they will cooperate with the institutions and the new regime. | |
| So to understand that, look, this is how things are going to be. | |
| And what's interesting is the approach that Trump and his administration have taken, which has just been shock and awe. | |
| We're just going to flex on them and press them down. | |
| Now, I actually don't think that's the wisest strategy in the long term. | |
| I think there are definitely exigencies that come from this that create problems further down the road. | |
| And I think there's a real chance of overreach with this kind of strategy. | |
| I would personally be as I would definitely use the momentum that Elon Musk and Donald Trump are using in the right way. | |
| Definitely, I think they are doing it, doing the right thing by going through and just doing as much as they can. | |
| But maybe the Napoleon memes are a little bit too far. | |
| Maybe, because I mean, like, and the throwing your heart out to people and stuff like this. | |
| I'm not saying that Elon's a naughty or anything like that. | |
| I'm just saying that there's a way of approaching this that doesn't scare the hoes. | |
| And Trump and Elon and the rest seem to have lent into, look, we're just going to scare the hoes. | |
| And that's great. | |
| Don't get me wrong. | |
| But that does have long-term consequences. | |
| And Curtis was warning about this. | |
| He was saying, look, you need to have a plan to essentially govern them as a kind of sort of as a kind of ethnic constituency in the same way that the Russians have a plan to govern the Chechens. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like they're not really part of you, but they are under your command. | |
| So you have to have a way of interfacing with that community which functions. | |
| And though we're only coming into the fourth week of Trump's presidency now, so everything, and Trump, as Bannon pointed out, they're flooding the zone. | |
| So everything is going incredibly fast. | |
| So it's difficult for them to react. | |
| They will find their feet eventually. | |
| And having a plan ready for that would be good. | |
| It would be a good thing to do. | |
| But anyway, so Yarvin is, again, another one of these fascinating right-wingers who comes from the elite. | |
| And they know he comes from the elite. | |
| So when the New York Times does this, and these are just essentially puff pieces. | |
| They're probably not meant to be as complimentary as they are. | |
| But whenever you read these things, you're like, Christ, that makes them sound legendary. | |
| Like, they make it sound like the right wing is full of the right-wing equivalent of Karl Marx, right? | |
| All of these incisive intellectuals that have been stalking around the edges of the left-wing campfire and are now ready to pounce. | |
| And the left need to, oh god, we've wake up to the scary right-winger who's about to come in and pop all our bubbles about egalitarianism and liberalism and all these other things. | |
| And I love these articles. | |
| You can go through for just all of them and read them with two senses. | |
| There's the sense of, oh, there's this scary man, you better be worried about him. | |
| Or there's the, ooh, there's the scary man, you better be worried about him. | |
| The kind of laundering of this as well into the mainstream is always a good thing, right? | |
| To make sure that people in the mainstream are well aware that, oh, yes, the right has actually spent a lot of time in the intellectual proverbial wilderness when it comes to having their ideas being taken seriously by mainstream society. | |
| And that they can only be kept out for so long. | |
| And so the right has hardened itself, it sharpened itself, and it has a much better understanding of leftism and liberalism than most leftists and liberals. | |
| Most leftists and liberals are very much sort of within the frame of the thing. | |
| And the right has been looking outside of the frame and all of the presuppositions and all the other connections around it for a long time now. | |
| And so the right has genuinely dozens of people who, if like someone came to me and said, Carl, we need someone to debate Noam Chomsky or whoever the current famous left-wing intellectual is. | |
| I honestly could pick probably about a dozen people off the top of my head to debate any left-wing intellectual at this point. | |
| And I'd say, no, that person do a good job. | |
| I'm sure they'll do a good job. | |
| Or that person over there. | |
| In fact, you know, him or him or him, brilliant. | |
| You know, maybe her or whatever. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah, there are loads of people who I would confidently, as a representative of the right, just say, no, deputize him to go and deal with them. | |
| And they'll be the cat amongst the pigeons, the fox in the hen house. | |
| It'll be great fun to watch. | |
| And it will advance the dialectic in the direction that we want it to go. | |
| And so this is a scary position if you're a left-wing intellectual, because what you are doing is trying to defend a paradigm whose steam has run out, whose time has come. | |
| It's arrived. | |
| We are living in the left-wing world. | |
| We're living in the world the left wanted to create from day dot. | |
| And they've been more wildly successful than they ever thought possible. | |
| And look at the state of the place. | |
| Look at the state of it. | |
| Everything's terrible. | |
| Like, nothing is good. | |
| Nothing is improving. | |
| For the first time in hundreds of years, our countries are getting poorer. | |
| They're getting less safe. | |
| They're becoming less prosperous, less impressive places. | |
| The technology is technically improving, but everything looks like shit. | |
| So somewhere in California or whatever, someone's invented something incredible. | |
| And eventually that filters down to the iPhone. | |
| But now I've just stood in some human shit in San Francisco. | |
| Right? | |
| It's just like it was better when we had less technology and tighter social mores. | |
| And so the teleological view of history that the left holds, which is everything will always get better forever. | |
| Well, that's apparently not true. | |
| And it's clear that it's a failure to understand human nature that lies at the bottom of why that is not obtaining in this current paradigm. | |
| And you've got lots and like I said, there are loads and loads of these what are supposed to be hit pieces, but they just make the right look based, cool, edgy. | |
| And when I say the right, I'm talking very broadly because there are going to be people, oh my God, this person's not right. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Everyone who's against the left at this point is in some way the right, which is fine. | |
| And I'm happy for it to be a broad text. | |
| So in this one, you can see that, again, everyone coming at different angles as well. | |
| Everyone's got their own sort of speciality. | |
| And of course, they're talking about Chris Rufo here, who is who went after Claudine Gay because she is a serial plagiarist, it seems. | |
| The dean of Harvard, I think she was. | |
| And so anyway, yeah, former Harvard president. | |
| Because she resigned because she basically kept stealing people's work and didn't credit them. | |
| And honestly, it's just right yourself, you lazy bint. | |
| But anyway, the point being, again, this is only from this year. | |
| And look at the headline. | |
| Look at the headline. | |
| Chris Rufo is coming for us. | |
| We're like sitting ducks. | |
| The rights war on woke is a well-tested playbook to take down academics. | |
| Superb. | |
| What more, if you were not woke, would you want to hear from the Guardian? | |
| The Guardian of Tracker. | |
| By the way, we're all about to get shot like fish in a barrel. | |
| Chris Rufo is going to metaphorically just hang us all. | |
| What now? | |
| And, well, great. | |
| I mean, I think I can't wait until you've all been driven out of the universities and you're sweeping the streets or doing janitorial work or whatever it is you should actually be doing with your 97 IQs and your handful of gender studies degrees. | |
| And you've got no place in society because all you've done is ruin things for other people. | |
| You are the professional ruiners of lives and you can't create a positive order. | |
| You deliberately try to tear down the other order for your own selfish gain, for your own selfish gain. | |
| So it's good that someone like Chris Rufo can literally metaphorically load his load load his I don't want to make too many shooting metaphors It's good that someone like Chris Rufo can use the correct tools to bring about accountability to these institutions Because there are definitely people who deserve to lose their jobs for the things that they've done and the way they've dealt with things | |
| So anyway, good stuff very good stuff in fact and like I said these these hit pieces are that they are meant to kind of scare the left to be like oh no we've got to up our game guys But what are you going to do? | |
| Like how do you need to up your game? | |
| You're not being held back from anything. | |
| What you are is occupying these castles that have been surrounded by a huge mob of people, but they themselves can't batter down the doors. | |
| And you're seeing the right-wing intellectuals who start to look like siege engines who might actually be able to make a breach in the walls and then the barbarian horde of normal people will pour into your ivory towers and presumably sack them. | |
| And to be honest with you, this is what you get. | |
| You didn't actually do anything for anyone else. | |
| What you did is try to destroy everything that we have. | |
| And they, of course, are well aware that the far right has moved online where it's more dangerous than ever. | |
| God, that makes it sound incredible, doesn't it? | |
| God, you think we've literally just got legions marching through the streets. | |
| Literal Roman legions marching through the streets with consuls and praetors and centurions organizing literal divisions of men. | |
| No, what it is, we're posting about the things that we believe on X and Elon Musk has simply stopped censoring us. | |
| Not Elon Musk was censoring us, but Twitter was censoring us. | |
| And Elon Musk has literally said, look, I'm just going to take the thumb off the scales. | |
| So everyone gets to have a chat on what is now X. | |
| And what happens? | |
| Well, it's a massive upswell of organic right-wing support. | |
| Really interesting that that had to be kept down. | |
| And as The Guardian again are terrified to inform their fellow leftoids, yet no, these people are getting millions of followers and getting, I mean, hundreds of millions of views, of impressions. | |
| Like, I mean, my numbers alone are mad. | |
| Like, you know, 50 to 100 million impressions a month. | |
| Christ, there's so many eyeballs looking at the stuff you do. | |
| And it's not all like, you know, every, an impression is not worth very much, by the way. | |
| That is literally just, it came up in your timeline. | |
| But you need that for the potential for someone to click on it, for the potential for someone actually to pay attention to it, to read it, to give it the time of day. | |
| And so the more of that that you can get, the more that you end up getting people who are actually engaging with what you're doing, which is superb. | |
| And, you know, everyone's numbers are going through the roof. | |
| I follow so many people. | |
| I watch their numbers and everyone's numbers are just superb. | |
| And it's like, brilliant. | |
| This is so much better than where we were in, say, 2014. | |
| So much progress has been made for the right in the West. | |
| To the point where now, of course, Donald Trump is putting the thumbscrews on the bureaucracy of the federal government, which, again, like, if you go back to five, six years, that was a complete dream, wasn't it? | |
| You know, that was such a pipe dream. | |
| It's like, how are we going to make it that Donald Trump's going to audit the Fed? | |
| Oh, well, he might be doing that tomorrow, actually. | |
| Elon, Elon's going to send his little Zuma Waffen in there. | |
| Who knows, right? | |
| It's going to be hell to pay, I'm sure. | |
| So, again, you love to see it. | |
| And this is outside of their control. | |
| This is completely outside of their control. | |
| So, X is by far the most important platform, which is superb. | |
| YouTube is, of course, supremely important, as always. | |
| Thank you for joining me, chat. | |
| But it's one of those things where all they can do is admit the virtues of their opponents and how the opponents are constantly mobilizing to defeat them. | |
| Superb. | |
| Absolutely superb. | |
| And the reason I bring all of this up, right, is not just out of the blue, although this has been kind of percolating in the back of my mind for a while now. | |
| It's nice to see that we're doing so well. | |
| And it's nice to see that the forces of leftism feel so embattled. | |
| They feel so besieged. | |
| They look out of their ivory ramparts and go, Christ, the orcs are everywhere. | |
| They're ruining the Shire. | |
| Yeah, we're ruining your Shire because this is what you did to us. | |
| Unlike the Orcs and Lord of the Rings, we have just cause. | |
| Normally, I don't put myself on the orc side of the metaphor when I'm using Lord of the Rings metaphors, but whatever. | |
| We'll do it for now, right? | |
| And politically homeless, yes, Zuma Waffen are better than the Buma Waffen. | |
| That's true. | |
| Anyway, so the reason I bring this all up is because I finally got one of these myself. | |
| I finally got my own article where I am the evil right-wing intellectual that the mainstream needs to be aware that I'm currently ruining everything for everyone, which is nice. | |
| What's not nice is the fat photo. | |
| Just all I'm saying, folks, lose weight, right? | |
| Just lose some weight. | |
| You don't have to lose all. | |
| I've still got about a stone I want to get rid of, but just lose most of it, right? | |
| Lose. | |
| Normally, it's quite easy to lose weight for that first couple of stone, and then it's getting the last of it off as the real problem. | |
| But lose the first couple, and you will never regret it. | |
| You will always look back on it and say, my God, you know, why did I allow myself to look like this when it wasn't very much more difficult to look, you know, normal, which is nice. | |
| Thank you, chat. | |
| But yeah, man, I can't. | |
| The thing is, you don't even realize you're that fat when you're that fat, to be honest. | |
| I guess there's something about your mind that just doesn't tells you not to. | |
| So, I mean, let's get fat me off the screen. | |
| But this is Unheard. | |
| Unheard is a non-woke, but still quite liberal outlet that is trying to chart a course for the center-right. | |
| And this, but it's a it's a reputable mainstream intellectual publication that discusses the problems that we have without going too far in one direction or another. | |
| It's fairly centrist. | |
| And it's not a bad show. | |
| It's not, I don't dislike unheard. | |
| It's, I think, just not sure where it's going exactly. | |
| But anyway, how YouTube forged the online rights, Polemsis, Ratalize Degeneration. | |
| And so I thought we'd go through this, just see how this makes, well, me sound, frankly, because it's about me. | |
| And I've read this, and a lot of people acted as if this was a hit piece. | |
| But in the spirit of, you know, the BAP one, the Lomez one, the Kirsty Arvin one, the Chris Rufin one, I was reading this going, wow, this just makes me sound incredible. | |
| And I, in a way that I don't think of myself as being. | |
| And so when you read it back, you're just like, is that true? | |
| So, chat, you can tell me whether you think any of this is true. | |
| Right, so he begins by talking about the YouTube video essay, which I never actually used to do video essays. | |
| I used to do about 20-minute half-hour videos where I would just respond to something or talk about a topic or whatever. | |
| It wasn't really the video essay because video essays are usually like an hour plus long and heavily scripted and take like a month to complete. | |
| And I'm just too lazy to do that much work. | |
| But he said, perhaps for five years, this brand of often hour-long or half-hour long philosophical treatise was not everywhere, but was vaguely hip. | |
| For something chiefly made by one-man bands and bedroom hacks, that'd be me, I guess. | |
| It was actually an excellent approximation of the liberal idea of the debate in the public square. | |
| And to be honest with you, that's actually very true. | |
| Like, I was doing this, I used to have a one-bed flat before I was married, obviously. | |
| And I would just do this from my front room, which is why it all felt very trivial. | |
| One thing that you learn in the course of this is that none of what we do is trivial. | |
| And if it was trivial, I wouldn't have been beaten with a big stick for five years for making a joke. | |
| They view this as very consequential. | |
| And as you can see from the articles that we've covered, not just this one, but all the other articles. | |
| One man in his living room can be a very influential force on the internet. | |
| And they're well aware of this. | |
| This is important to them. | |
| This is consequential to them. | |
| This is something of which we assumed or we just underestimated. | |
| I mean, because so much of it is numbers, right? | |
| It's just numbers on a screen. | |
| If whenever I was going to produce a YouTube video, like, you know, I get like 200,000 people watch it or something. | |
| Okay, well, if I had to walk into a stadium of 200,000 people, like, I would probably take what I do a lot more seriously than I do. | |
| Like, I mean, people are watching live right this second. | |
| So we've got nearly 4,000 people watching live. | |
| That's the Apollo, right? | |
| Theater in London, right? | |
| That's not a small number of people at all. | |
| And that was just the people currently here in the chat watching live. | |
| Like, if you were to just take all of the people who ended up watching a video, like, you know, 200 to 300,000 people sometimes. | |
| So it's just. | |
| You don't have a concept of the numbers because you just put it online and it goes and numbers happen. | |
| And then you go about your day. | |
| You don't realize that actually this is, in fact, he's got a great way of framing it here. | |
| It was, in short, a digital gang of Thomas Paines all trying to bring their ideas to the new generation. | |
| Then, just as suddenly, the biggest video hosting platform in the world tweaked a couple of lines of the algorithm and the VOSA era ended. | |
| That's again, that's just a great way of putting it: a gang of digital Thomas Paines. | |
| We are YouTube is from the 17th century onwards, pamphleteering became a big deal in England, the Netherlands, France, Germany, Western Europe, and the United States, or come the United States, in which basically it became affordable to rent a printing press or buy a printing press, print out 10,000 copies of a pamphlet, | |
| and then distribute them around and sell them for a penny or something around various towns and cities in the country to mass produce and mass distribute ideas to people who otherwise would have had no idea about any of these things. | |
| And YouTube is just a very advanced version of that. | |
| YouTube is, it has been, at least for the political YouTube, a very honestly, you read through these pamphlets from the 17th century and you realize that this is really, I mean, these really read like YouTube video scripts. | |
| And I could literally, if I wanted to, I could just record a bit, just narrate a bunch of them, turn them into videos, and boom, here we go. | |
| You know, it'd be very easy, especially in the era of AI, to animate them or something, you know, or to get some sort of screen things with them. | |
| They are very much the same thing. | |
| And a lot of the time they're responding to each other as well and criticizing each person's ideas. | |
| It's very interesting how this has come about again. | |
| So anyway, he says that by 2018, when I'd made a radio documentary about the YouTube online right, I'd become fascinated with the form. | |
| To me, it seemed like something totally new. | |
| Well, it is, but also there is the echo of what came before. | |
| A world of genuine outsiders, people who would otherwise have no standing in conventional journalism. | |
| That's true. | |
| They performed the kind of dense argumentation that workday journalists neither have the bandwidth nor often the brain cells for. | |
| That's an interesting point because there was a study a while ago that showed that journalists often are not as smart as the regular public because they spend a lot of time drinking and staying up late and carousing and doing drugs. | |
| Whereas I actually don't. | |
| I've got a very temperate lifestyle. | |
| And so I suppose if you spend all of your days doing drugs, drinking, and getting to bed at three in the morning, well, yeah, it probably does affect your cognition. | |
| He carries on. | |
| Central to this emergent world was the figure of Carl Benjamin, a YouTuber who went via the nom de guerr of Carl Sagan of Akad. | |
| The name he'd pulled from an ancient Mesopotamian king. | |
| Completely true. | |
| I just like the name and I used it on Steam. | |
| Benjamin had no bona fides. | |
| I didn't. | |
| University dropout in computer science. | |
| He'd briefly had a job sweating data at the Swindon Research Council. | |
| Well, it's not briefly, but I was there for like three years. | |
| But I'd had many other jobs before that as well. | |
| I mean, I don't, I'm not surprised he doesn't know that. | |
| That was just the job I had before I started my YouTube channel. | |
| But the point is, I wasn't anyone from this world. | |
| I was just from, I was from the normal outside world of civil society that didn't really get involved in politics, wasn't really interested. | |
| I didn't do politics at school or at A-level or degree or anything like that. | |
| I had no interest in it. | |
| But Pericles was right that you may not care about politics, but politics cares about you. | |
| And as he says, somewhere along the way, he'd become radicalized against what was then called social justice warriors. | |
| It'd be another four years for anyone called them work. | |
| That's true. | |
| Because I was just messing around with video games in my free time when I wasn't working. | |
| And yep, they invaded it. | |
| They put forth a series of ideas that were clearly nonsensical. | |
| Turns out it was just communism. | |
| It's just communism at the bottom of it all. | |
| And so I started uploading essays that used the core of Western philosophy to justify his positions and vanquish his enemies. | |
| Chief among them was Anisakisin, a feminist who typified the mold then emerging. | |
| and it's our keys and was the first video i ever made about and the thing is you you can find it online and And I was so naive, right? | |
| I was so naive. | |
| It's like she doesn't understand this, this, and this. | |
| Of course she does. | |
| She's just evil. | |
| She's just trying to destroy. | |
| She's just a power-seeking communist. | |
| I didn't know, you know? | |
| But the video response, I'm so gentle with my criticism. | |
| And because I didn't really know what I was talking about, but like she'd make an argument. | |
| I'd be like, okay, well, here's why I don't think that's correct. | |
| Blah, blah, blah. | |
| But anyway, a feminist who typified the mold then emerging. | |
| Recently graduated upper middle class girls obsessed with tokenistic representation, insectionality and victimology. | |
| Benjamin saw the tide of evil rolling in. | |
| That's true. | |
| Like a sucker, Benjamin actually went back to the cortex of Western thought arguing from first principles. | |
| The fans of their idols, lugubrious baritone. | |
| I don't know if I have lugubrious baritone. | |
| There was a kind of shock in being asked to defend things that until yesterday had barely needed considering. | |
| Now, this is completely true. | |
| And again, we knew nothing about intersectionality or postmodernism or any of these things when this began. | |
| But these things have deep roots in the Western academy. | |
| And we were ill-prepared for them like almost everyone else was. | |
| Merit is good. | |
| Free speech is inalienable. | |
| Newcomers of a society should contribute. | |
| Terribly radical. | |
| But the arguments were dredged up from Aristotle's ideas on the good to Voltaire on the separation of powers. | |
| A particular totem of the day was to believe in On Liberty, the mill with a final word on everything. | |
| Even Milo Yiannopoulos, that charlatan's charlatan, would bang on about having a copy in his bedtime. | |
| I don't think that's a fair characterization of Milo. | |
| If you actually watch him in debates and just in discussions, Milo is a very switched on character. | |
| He's not a charlatan, but he doesn't claim to be anything more than the sort of civilizational gadfly, I think, which he is. | |
| And honestly, I'm glad to see him back on Twitter. | |
| It's good to see him doing stuff again. | |
| But you know what? | |
| He's got a great point about On Liberty, though. | |
| In recent years, in fact, in about 2021, Callum and I did a book club on On Liberty, and we were sat there going, God, this is terrible, isn't it? | |
| How is it we were persuaded by this in the first place? | |
| I might do a rebuttal to On Liberty at some point. | |
| But the thing is, I don't want people to take it as if I'm against free speech. | |
| Obviously, I'm not against free speech. | |
| It's just I find the arguments in On Liberty totally uncompelling. | |
| In fact, I've come to loathe utilitarianism in every form. | |
| In a genuine sort of in a deeply spiritual way. | |
| I hate utilitarianism. | |
| Anyway, later, Benjamin turned to analyzing power itself. | |
| He published video essays on Machiavelli. | |
| He became obsessed with reverse engineering the work of Saul Lilinsky, the Marxist theorist who wrote Revolves for Radicals, the leftist agitator's Bible. | |
| Others joined the party with their own beats and their pseudonyms. | |
| The godless spellchecker spun out of the post-Dawkins militant atheist wave. | |
| The academic agent for his part was a moonlighting university lecturer. | |
| Initially a lover of Ludwig von Mises and Austrian economics, who gradually turned away from libertarianism and towards hardcore neoreactionism. | |
| Yeah, well, everyone enjoys the old libertarian phase of everyone, to be honest. | |
| Because again, there's something innocently naive about libertarianism. | |
| It's not that I'm not sympathetic to the arguments, it's that it only works if everyone agrees. | |
| And if you have like a bunch of 130 IQ Anglos being like, right, we're going to be in charge of civilization, this is going to work. | |
| Yeah, it would if that were the civilization, but it's not, and so it doesn't work, and so let's move on. | |
| Um, he says, at the time with Obama in the White House and Osborneism Ascendant, the right was in a disgusting, disgustingly flabby shape. | |
| And this is so true. | |
| This is so, so true. | |
| Yeah, I'm kind of surprised and impressed that he's done this much research. | |
| Again, sorry, I'll get to the super chats at the end if you don't mind. | |
| I just want to get through this first. | |
| Yeah, I'm impressed with the amount of research he's done. | |
| There are definitely things that I can fill in as we go along, but like he has done quite a lot here. | |
| But he is completely right about what the right was like in 2017. | |
| It was just boomer cons in America and I mean, just Blairites, just Blairite liberals in Britain. | |
| I mean, the George Osborne types. | |
| It's like, you know, the Thatcher worshippers. | |
| It's not that I don't like Thatcher or something, but it's just like, look, she's obviously a creature of her time and place. | |
| And that's not now. | |
| So let's move on, shall we? | |
| Anyway, he says, the right, the Sebastian Payne tendency was all you got. | |
| The right as the left driving the speed limit, which is a fair characterization. | |
| But on YouTube, at least, a fight back had begun in earnest. | |
| We can't wait for anyone to do this for us. | |
| Benjamin told a 2017 live stream. | |
| There was no world beyond. | |
| And that was very clear to me very, very early on in this. | |
| Because by that time, I've only been doing this for three years. | |
| And now I'm 11 years in, right? | |
| And it was very apparent at the time that, oh, no, no, this is something that's going to take a long time. | |
| I mean, in 2019, after my MEP campaign, as I look, you know, obviously that wasn't going to work. | |
| But like, I was hoping to kind of scare them into being like, oh, yeah, maybe we need to do something. | |
| Or else, you know, maybe we'll end up with Prime Minister Nigel Farage one day, right? | |
| But clearly, they're not paying attention, and we just have to go in and crush them like Trump has. | |
| I made a video called the 20-year plan, and I mean that this is going to take at least 20 years in Britain at the very least. | |
| It's not going to take 20 years in the United States. | |
| It's going to take 20 years in Britain for us to essentially have done everything that we need to do, have our own long march, change the nature of the culture to something that is what we want it to be, and then have our own march through the institutions. | |
| And we are on year five so far, and unheard of publishing articles about how, oh my god, there's this one guy on YouTube who basically controls the right-wing culture in Britain as soon as it's like, well, that's great. | |
| I can't help but laugh because I would never think or say something like that for myself. | |
| I didn't write this. | |
| Like, this has been written about me. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Like, I wouldn't have the gall. | |
| Sorry, I think my chat's crashed. | |
| Let me refresh that quickly. | |
| Yeah, I wouldn't have the gall to say something like this. | |
| Like, and so it's just, it's funny to hear it because you don't know. | |
| Oh, goddamn, why is YouTube so terrible? | |
| Um, you don't know, like, how broad your influence is, really. | |
| Like, you just do the things you do, and you hope things get better. | |
| Um, anyway, he says, nor was the right alone. | |
| The left was busy developing its own SAS2, collectively known as BreadTube, a pied and tactical algorithmic hijacking, which is piggybacking on popular topics. | |
| And the top of the heap is a genuinely entertaining Natalie Wynne, known to fans as Conch Points, mixed cynicism with leftist ideology in a similar style to cult theorist Mark Fisher. | |
| Across the Atlantic, they were the likes of H. Bomberguy, the pseudonym of Harry Bruwise, who amassed 1.7 million subscribers with his measured response videos. | |
| And where are they now? | |
| Like, they seem to have imploded in a bunch of, like, really gross personality flaws. | |
| These people all seem to have had various credible accusations made against them for disgusting behavior. | |
| And so they've kind of been scattered into their own little silos. | |
| And so no one really thinks about BreadTube anymore. | |
| Like, who talks about it? | |
| Who the hell talks about it? | |
| I'm trying to keep it as boring as possible. | |
| Don't worry, mad beef. | |
| I'm trying to keep it as boring as possible because I don't feel... | |
| In Britain, we're in a place of perennial danger, right? | |
| So I will keep it very measured. | |
| Anyway, when it came to the end of a sudden, it happened around 2019 when YouTube again switched up its algorithm. | |
| To boost overall watch time, admins chose to prioritize videos that were far longer, looser confections. | |
| Suddenly, two-hour live streams were at the top of everyone's feed, fatal for 20-minute video essays that could take days to script and edit. | |
| It's not just the switching the algorithm there as well. | |
| This is the invention of the super chat. | |
| It was around 2018, I think it was. | |
| And this really had a massive impact on the ecosphere. | |
| Obviously, I mean, like I'm doing now, it's worthwhile live streaming things because people can send you money to comment on things and have you read it out and, you know, interact with you. | |
| And so that's appealing for the viewers. | |
| That's appealing for the content creator. | |
| Yeah, that's a thing, you know. | |
| And so the invention of the super chat really did hammer the long video essay. | |
| Anyway, and when that creators who had been stars of the previous era began to melt away, their view counts ticked down, the gaps between their videos grew longer. | |
| Most either stopped or adopted the new mode. | |
| In many ways, though this shift was helpful to the burdening online right. | |
| Less reliant on the auteur, they can instead lean on celebrity guests called from other YouTube channels. | |
| No longer operating in their own silos, they effectively became a cast, a menagerie of personalities who visited each other's home bases for cozy chats. | |
| We did, I suppose, yeah. | |
| Benjamin leaned into the trend effectively. | |
| Now, I just want to be clear, I didn't do any of this consciously. | |
| I just worked and people would ask me things. | |
| I'd say, yeah, why not? | |
| And so I'd just crack on with things. | |
| Exhausted by his own content production cycle, he decided to clone himself. | |
| Farming out his shtick. | |
| It's a shtick now. | |
| He decided to a new generation of 20-somethings and blazers. | |
| Bo's going to be really happy to describe, he describes a 20-something in a blazer. | |
| So will Dan, so will Stellios. | |
| You're welcome, gentlemen. | |
| What is it? | |
| Connor and Harry get all of the, and Callum get all the limeline this. | |
| But anyway, he launched an expanded daily show that we called the podcast of the Load Seaters, which I did. | |
| Go and subscribe. | |
| It chiefly consisted of Benjamin and his mini me's reacting to stories they ran out from mainstream press. | |
| Well, that's not entirely true. | |
| That's a bit of a shallow characterization because what we do is investigate the breadth of a topic. | |
| And so we'll go into the background of it and what has happened to explain. | |
| I mean, Stelios is constantly going about what's happening in Ireland at the moment, what's happening in Germany at the moment, what's happening in Sweden at the moment, what's happening in Greece at the moment. | |
| Like, we do produce a lot. | |
| There's a lot of dense information in these videos. | |
| So it's not quite, you know, as shallow as he's making it sound there. | |
| But anyway, the end of the video essay also meant the start of an era in which algorithm, the algorithm prioritised the live stream and the long rambling podcast style chat. | |
| And in a certain sense, that was an ex good step for Benjamin and other past masters of the form. | |
| Constantly going on each other's shows meant that norms began to establish themselves and these thought leaders moved from one stream to the next. | |
| Suddenly, everyone was talking about Carl Schmidt. | |
| Suddenly it was taking his ancient wisdom that he who decides the exception is sovereign. | |
| Well, to be honest with you, that's a good maxim, isn't it? | |
| I mean, how would you refute it? | |
| I mean, what would you actually do? | |
| Like, that is a good metric of he who is the actual sovereign, the actual decision maker, is the person who decides who's outside of the grace of the state. | |
| Anyway, in the scheme of things, the video essay era was a brief ellipsis, yet it was deeply consequential, not just in terms of Carl Benjamin's career. | |
| For a start, there's a generational cohort effect. | |
| The 24-year-olds of today would have been 15 back then. | |
| They grew up in the world of the YouTube essay. | |
| For them, indeed, it wasn't just a fashion, it was formative. | |
| When you hear the head-banging tone of the Zoomer crew now coming through, you're witnessing the people who have imbibed Benjamin's whole moral style. | |
| That's an interesting thing to say. | |
| Because what he's saying there is all of the young people we're hiring now just sound like Carl Benjamin. | |
| And this has compelled me to write this article about this. | |
| I don't need to laugh. | |
| I should take it a lot more seriously. | |
| But it's just kind of funny, right? | |
| By the way, thank you for all the Zoomers in the chat. | |
| I'm glad you've watched. | |
| I'm glad you've learned. | |
| And I'm glad you've understood that this is going to be something that you're going to have to put your backs into. | |
| I'm too old at this point to be doing the things you're going to need to do. | |
| So crack on, lads. | |
| But this idea of a moral style is fantastic. | |
| Because that is true, right? | |
| There are styles of morality. | |
| And this is why I could characterize Curtis Jarvin or Bronze Age Perva or whoever, because there's a style to them. | |
| And there's a style to the left. | |
| There's a style to Conch Points, the style of PhilosophyTube, the Starter Vorsch, the nothing matters and so forth. | |
| And therefore, we don't need to do anything as long as we end up defaulting back to the current status quo, which is entirely left-wing and driving in the left-wing direction. | |
| So we can dismantle everything in the other way. | |
| Well, that's not my moral style, obviously. | |
| My moral style is no, we need to be the setters of the rules. | |
| We are actually going to be the ones who instantiate the moral order of the future. | |
| And I'm glad, see, what you are witnessing is people who have imbibed Benjamin's whole moral style. | |
| You are going to be taking onto your shoulders, like Atlas, the ordering and running of the world. | |
| This is important. | |
| You will have to take this seriously. | |
| He carries on. | |
| They come preloaded with the facts and arguments of the video essay era. | |
| Does migration drive growth? | |
| No. | |
| It's just been proven over and over and over that that's the case. | |
| Does multiculturalism need more time to succeed? | |
| No. | |
| For them, they are settled questions. | |
| And that's honestly because they are. | |
| The data is all there. | |
| I mean, we've got, and it's not just in the video essays. | |
| We talk about these things on the podcast all the time because we can just pull up the data because the data is all there. | |
| It's all a lot of it's just literally government data. | |
| Like when the was it, not the Treasury Department, the Institute for Financial Studies or something, just comes out and goes, look, we're going to have to raise taxes by 100 billion in the next 10 years to cope with the cost of immigration. | |
| Okay, but that's a think tank that's deeply entwined with the government and their policies. | |
| So it's like, okay, Institute of Fiscal Studies, I think it was. | |
| Like, this isn't me making this up. | |
| This is them saying, no, this is costing us 100 billion in the next 10 years. | |
| Get used to it. | |
| It's like, okay, well, okay, I think we can agree that migration hasn't driven growth then, right? | |
| Otherwise, we wouldn't need to be ramping up our taxes to cover the cost of all this mass migration. | |
| So these are settled questions. | |
| And it's not just that it's the video essay or the podcast that have brought this into being. | |
| What it is, is a confident, assertive, positive view of what ought to be that the right has been looking for for such a long time. | |
| That's what I have been spending my time, not only creating, but disseminating. | |
| Are we valid? | |
| Are we people? | |
| Are we a group? | |
| Do we deserve to have the things that other people have? | |
| And the answer to all these questions is yes. | |
| And so, okay, well, let's have a look at the facts. | |
| Oh, the facts are almost entirely on our side on these subjects. | |
| Oh, well, brilliant. | |
| Then we will aggressively advance them wherever we need to go and whoever we need to debate with, wherever these need to be presented. | |
| And lo and behold, oh, there's a cohort of Zoomers who are like, oh, God, we're being screwed. | |
| And the end of England looks like it's drawing over the horizon. | |
| Maybe we should do something about it. | |
| It's like, yeah, yeah, maybe we should. | |
| Maybe we should. | |
| I'm so glad they've been paying attention, frankly. | |
| Anyway, he says, there's a curious cordon sanitaire that endures between broadcast media and YouTube. | |
| Yet the fruits are everywhere. | |
| Just look at Trumpism and its second term. | |
| At the core of what is happening with USAID and executive orders is precisely the kind of first principles analysis of power that the first term lacked. | |
| That's a great point as well. | |
| Trump, again, himself naive back in 2017 when we were all naive. | |
| We didn't know how this really worked. | |
| We didn't know how the debate was going to go with the left or why we weren't winning them over with our arguments. | |
| We didn't know where the money was coming from. | |
| We didn't know what we would have to do to just win. | |
| And I'm here for wins, right? | |
| We are here to win. | |
| We're not here to lose. | |
| We're going to beat them. | |
| We're going to beat them on our terms in the right way for the right reasons to get a positive future for the West. | |
| This is for everyone. | |
| This is the whole thing. | |
| Take this seriously. | |
| People who are unheard who are thinking, well, are these guys really going to go over? | |
| No, the fruits are everywhere. | |
| All of the Zoomers are my Zoomers. | |
| I am their father, as far as you're concerned. | |
| Take them seriously. | |
| They know what they're talking about. | |
| They know what they're going to get. | |
| And they're going to get it because they're the young cohort. | |
| They're the guys who are going to be there for the next 40 years. | |
| I'm not going to be here for another 40 years, probably. | |
| They are. | |
| So you get ready to deal with them forever. | |
| And they're smart as well, man. | |
| There are loads of young, smart men in Britain who are just like, shit, the bottom is falling out of our country. | |
| We've got to do something about this. | |
| Yes, you do. | |
| Yes, you absolutely do. | |
| But this, again, the cordon sanitaire between myself and broadcast media is an interesting thing. | |
| And I assume it exists out of fear. | |
| I assume it exists because I will be prepared to raise the questions that they are unprepared to answer. | |
| And I actually, I have some serious questions that I do want to raise at some point. | |
| I'll probably do that in a book because when you do it in a book form, they take it more seriously and they get more flighty and feel more under attack. | |
| If it's just podcasts going out, they feel less under attack. | |
| But if there's a book being written, they get terrified. | |
| So I'll probably write a book when I'm finished with this current degree that I'm doing. | |
| But the point being, I don't need the broadcast media and never have. | |
| So I don't feel in any way hampered by the fact that I'm not inundated with GB news and invitations or anything like that. | |
| It's not something that's ever bothered me because I don't need it. | |
| We've got this far without it and we're just going to keep going. | |
| Anyway, so he carries on. | |
| Much like Mao's long march, the fight at first seemed unwinnable until gradually the insurgents gained the strength, the ideas coalescing into a creed and ideology with world shaping power. | |
| And this makes us sound incredible, doesn't it, Lads? | |
| Like, you know, everyone in the chat, pat yourselves on the back, because he's not just talking about me, he's talking about all of us. | |
| Certainly, Benjamin himself seems to view his political journey in just these terms. | |
| Correct. | |
| With the USAID revelations of subsidies for lessist causes, Benjamin pulled up an alleged payment credit to a feminist game development company called Feminist Frequency. | |
| He was the CEO of this firm, none other than Neither Sarkeesian, the target of the YouTuber all those years ago. | |
| Beneath the receipts, Benjamin simply tweets, I just wanted to play video games. | |
| It's very interesting. | |
| It's very poetic, actually. | |
| I didn't want to have to go on a 20-year crusade to destroy leftism and salt the earth. | |
| I didn't want to do that. | |
| I had no interest in it. | |
| But now we're five years into it, and that's going to carry on, right? | |
| The destruction of liberalism will continue until morale improves, right? | |
| Until we've completely salted the earth, until the very idea of being left-wing is a laughable, clownish thing. | |
| We're going to continue. | |
| Anyway, he says, back then, terminally online nerds really did have a live and let-live mentality. | |
| True. | |
| Until politics came looking for them. | |
| At first, they thought classical liberalism would solve their problems. | |
| True. | |
| But the train didn't stop there. | |
| It trundled on until the like, until like the academic agent, it became genuinely reactionary. | |
| Not merely anti-SJW, it rather assails the entire post-war consensus, from immigration to welfare to state education. | |
| The more they dug into what was wrong with their Mill and their Aristotle, the more the YouTubers hunted for radical solutions. | |
| I just want to say Aristotle's done nothing wrong here. | |
| He's basically correct on everything important. | |
| Mill, however, Thomas Paine, Mill, Locke, I mean, Hobbes, Rousseau, all of them, all of them are wrong. | |
| They're all wrong. | |
| And we will continue smashing these ideas down because of just their wrongness. | |
| In fact, he ends. | |
| Today, the online theorists are digging up the very flagstones of liberalism. | |
| Yes, I am. | |
| Exactly what I'm doing. | |
| I'm going to show everyone that this is fucking nonsense. | |
| It has always been nonsense. | |
| And you've justified, not you personally, but they've justified everything that has been done to us on the grounds of this absolute bullshit. | |
| That's the problem. | |
| My son's future looks like a fucking wasteland at the moment. | |
| The town he is from looks just abominable. | |
| It's abominable to look at it. | |
| It didn't used to be this way. | |
| I've been in Smithina for like 25 years. | |
| It used to be a nice little town. | |
| It wasn't very exciting, but it was quite nice. | |
| You know, it was homely. | |
| It was normal. | |
| There was stuff here. | |
| Things weren't falling apart. | |
| Now it's a fucking wasteland filled with foreign barbarians. | |
| Yeah, you're damn right. | |
| I'm going to dig up the flagstones of liberalism and cast them into the sea so that in future people will look at this like they do sort of like some weird Christian Gnostic heresy and be like, really? | |
| They cut their own dicks off. | |
| Yeah, they did. | |
| They willingly did that. | |
| Why? | |
| Because they thought they were women. | |
| What? | |
| Are they mad? | |
| Yes, they were mad. | |
| Right? | |
| They walked through the streets because they were flagellating themselves till the blood poured from their backs because they thought the plague was God telling them that they weren't sufficiently Christian. | |
| Yes, they were mad. | |
| That's what this is going to be by the time I am done. | |
| Trust me on that. | |
| They scoff at the ideal of the public square and the marketplace of ideas. | |
| No, no, no, we don't scoff at the idea. | |
| It's just clear that if you want a public square and a marketplace of ideas, you have to control it. | |
| Your side has to control it. | |
| The person deciding the exception has to be your guy who wants to be fair and decent to people. | |
| Notice that Elon Musk didn't just blanket ban the left. | |
| He should. | |
| He could have just been like, nope, you're all gone. | |
| Every left winger. | |
| Anyone with a pride flag in their bio, just scour it. | |
| Scorched earth in one day. | |
| Everyone, you know, just search pride flag, ban. | |
| It could have been. | |
| Thousands and tens of millions of accounts. | |
| But he didn't do that, right? | |
| Unlike when the left was in control and everyone literally, was just constantly bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam, bam. | |
| No, it's not happening. | |
| No yeah we you, you can have a marketplace of ideas, and it's a good thing to have a public square. | |
| It just has to be in the hands of those people who are trustworthy and responsible, and it turns out that's not the left, that's just not the left, and so we're not having this, we're not having this, we're not having someone nagging us. | |
| Or don't you feel guilty that you have control of something and someone else doesn't? | |
| No, actually I don't, because that only works on people who have a lack of moral conviction right, that only works on people who actually aren't necessarily sure why they ought to do the things that they do, and it's very easy to say, well, i'm going to be a Voltaire Style classical liberal, i'll dive the defend to the death your right to say whatever it's like. | |
| Yeah, you know, i'm not there anymore right, what I am now is uh, an older, a decade later i'm. | |
| I'm older, i'm a lot more right wing, I am a father and i've decided, you've just been everything up and i'm not happy with it. | |
| Right, this is our shared patrimony. | |
| You are pissing down the drain. | |
| I'm not having it right, so we are. | |
| We are going to make sure that things are as they ought to be, going forward and everything else that lies outside, that fine, but that's going to be the core pillar of the civilization, and if you don't like it, we're going to get, we're going to ruin you. | |
| We're going to make it so that people look at you and go wow, you are a frivolous, selfish prick who literally wants to piss away my grandchildren's inheritance. | |
| Over what trans rights do you think i'm? | |
| Do you think that i'm going to let you destroy my civilization of a trans rights or? | |
| Oh well, aren't we all just universal blank state humans, bro? | |
| No no, we're not. | |
| Do I have to pull out the chart like the one map of the world, do I? | |
| No, this is all over right, this is all over and we are coming. | |
| We are absolutely coming, and that's why this article exists in the first place. | |
| But anyway, he says they, we don't. | |
| So we don't scoff at the ideal of the public and the marketplace of ideas just has to be ours. | |
| Right, we have the right to control things. | |
| We ought to control things. | |
| It's ours. | |
| They're into the deep plumbing of power. | |
| Yes, we are rewarding friends and punishing enemies. | |
| Well, all we're doing is looking at what the left did. | |
| Oh, you punished us for being your enemies, even though we didn't realize we're your enemies. | |
| We thought we're all just. | |
| You know, countrymen living in the, in the shared country. | |
| That is the online discourse. | |
| No no, it turns out that no, it's entirely networks of patronage, funded by us taxpayers, to screw over the right and empower the left. | |
| Yeah no, that's over. | |
| It's over, it's. | |
| We're done with it. | |
| We know what you're about and it's not going to happen. | |
| We are going to reward our friends and punish our enemies, and if you're on the wrong side of that well, Too fucking bad, isn't it? | |
| Really? | |
| Maybe, maybe you shouldn't have been like, and again, not this person particularly, but like you know, the leftist reading this being like, oh God, the right are going to ruin us. | |
| Yeah, well, you've been trying to ruin us this whole time, and you've forged us into diamond-sharp weaponry. | |
| And now the public hate you. | |
| Everyone hates you. | |
| And the one thing that you're still committed to is democracy, which is kind of weird if you think about it. | |
| Like, why would you be committed to democracy if your entire platform is I hate most people and most people are reactionary racist, sexist, xenophobic bigots who essentially would be better if they don't exist. | |
| But please vote for us. | |
| No, like Steve Bannon said back way back in like 2015 or something. | |
| So no, we love democracy because we're going to win. | |
| We represent what the majority of people actually think. | |
| And those people are going to hear your side, which is let us trans your kids, or our side, which is maybe we should be a country. | |
| And they're going to vote for us because we are right and you are wrong. | |
| And that's just how this is going to be. | |
| Anyway, he carries on. | |
| We're a long way from the golden age of Milton Friedman Friedman Destroys clips. | |
| Today, their heroes aren't Mill and Voltaire. | |
| They're Thomas Carlyle, Oswald Spengler, and James Burnham. | |
| Man, what did James Burnham do wrong? | |
| He was right. | |
| But anyway, they're not actually my heroes. | |
| I like all of them, though. | |
| Although, I'm not that big a fan of Oswald Spengler. | |
| I know a lot of people love Oswald Spengler. | |
| And I've never actually read Carlisle, to be honest. | |
| I've read a lot of Burnham, though. | |
| Burnham's good. | |
| Oswald Spengler, he's great German, very boring, and not that exciting. | |
| But we do have non-liberal heroes now, intellectual heroes. | |
| And we are just leveraging all of this and saying, no, this can be done and should be done and will be done. | |
| And so he ends with this. | |
| It's a really good line. | |
| This they really should have just let him play video games. | |
| Like, yep, I've turned my entire intellectual career into the mission to destroy leftism. | |
| You could have left me alone. | |
| You didn't have to smear me. | |
| You didn't have to attack me. | |
| You didn't have to do any of these things, but you did. | |
| And so here we are, right? | |
| You're ruining our entire civilization. | |
| I'm not having it. | |
| I'm not having it. | |
| And this is my part in the long war against the left to save our civilization. | |
| This is just what we have to do. | |
| And so it's what we will do. | |
| And you see like new warriors, happy warriors joining the fight every day. | |
| Like Rupert Lowe is another great one, right? | |
| You can see that Rupert Lowe was just a normal chap, just a businessman, until very recently, when suddenly it's like, holy shit, the scope of what these people are asking for. | |
| So yeah, oh yeah, the scope of what they're asking for is total ruination of everything that we inherited from the past and we are supposed to be holding in trust for the generations of the future. | |
| You see why I quite like the Nietzsche invitalist now because it's like, okay, well, the conservative are like, okay, well, let's tepidly put our toes in the water and see how it is. | |
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| We're going to go in hard and we're going to go in fast. | |
| And we're going to do as much damage to leftist propaganda, to leftist ideology, to leftist propagandists as we can intellectually. | |
| This is all in the realm of ideas in the sphere of debate. | |
| I'm, of course, very much against violence, political violence. | |
| We're going to go in as hard, fast, and as brucely as we can against the things they believe, tear them up by the roots and cast them to the wind, as often as we can. | |
| And everyone knows, everyone knows we are going to fucking kill your ideology. | |
| We are going to destroy the woke mind virus. | |
| Like the richest man in the world who controls the most powerful platform in the world, it's like, no, I'm going to destroy the woke mind virus. | |
| Yeah, yeah, no, we're all in. | |
| We're all in. | |
| You know, chips on the no, we're all going for it. | |
| We've got the hand as well. | |
| What you have are archaic, whiny, postmodern deconstructionism. | |
| Okay, but if I tell you to shut the fuck up, then none of your deconstructions works. | |
| I have to listen to you for that to work. | |
| And if I don't listen to you, if I just start asserting things, no, it is this way, and it is this way, and it is this way. | |
| Suddenly I build a brand new edifice that keeps you on the outside of it. | |
| And that's what we're doing. | |
| Anyway, let's go to some super chats. | |
| This has been quite cathartic, actually. | |
| I was thinking, oh, this is going to be a bit self-indulgent. | |
| No, no, I'm enjoying this. | |
| They deserve this. | |
| They are going to get it. | |
| They are absolutely going to get it. | |
| And we're going to keep going because we just don't know how to stop at this point. | |
| You don't understand. | |
| Like, it's become an existential problem. | |
| And I have to see it every time I go into my fucking town. | |
| I see. | |
| I'm living in the ruins of leftism. | |
| Everything about every the reason everything around is shit is because of thoughts and decisions made because of your ideology. | |
| Oh no. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| We're going to destroy it. | |
| Anyway, The Eccentric Tripper says, split the difference. | |
| Embrace Neoplatonism. | |
| Plotinus' philosophical system is supreme over all of the systems. | |
| Also, Evola was a theosophical hack. | |
| Listen, man, I'm not having you talk about Evola that way. | |
| And to be honest with you, I've never bothered looking into Neoplatonism. | |
| I'm not saying I won't or anything. | |
| I just can't be bothered with it. | |
| I'm not sure that there's going to be truth found in it. | |
| But again, I haven't looked into it, so I don't want to condemn it or anything like that. | |
| I'm sure there are decent insights in there. | |
| I just haven't looked. | |
| Asher, I haven't seen Enderong, which is a total conversion model to Skyrim. | |
| So I can't give you thoughts on it. | |
| You know what I'll do? | |
| I will put it in my browser. | |
| See if I can check it out at some point. | |
| Well, Generico, they had it coming, right? | |
| The West was best when it was run by baptized pagans. | |
| Yeah, you know what? | |
| I think Evola's got a great point about the Knightly Orders and how they're actually a kind of pagan spirit. | |
| And you see a lot of this in Shakespeare as well, the kind of pagan spirit that is still beneath the Christian veneer. | |
| I actually think there's a lot of power in that. | |
| So yeah, I agree that, you know, Christianity should be the ruling creed of the West. | |
| But there's always those people who are like, yeah, but. | |
| And I think they need to be listened to and should have a place in these things. | |
| But I agree with you that people who held ancient pagan truths about the world, but aimed their spirits towards lofty virtue and higher ideals. | |
| Now we have no such grounding. | |
| I agree. | |
| I agree. | |
| And that's a good way to go to start on things. | |
| Adam says, hey, Carl, I just want to say that I enjoyed your Trust the Experts video. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| I'm currently reading Intellectuals and Society by Sol. | |
| Excellent book. | |
| I was wondering if you've read this since your video hones in on similar themes. | |
| Your video hones in on similar themes to his book. | |
| I have read it years ago. | |
| But the thing is with Seoul, you don't really need to have read it to know that Seoul's probably going to be correct in any of the, you know, put it in chat GPT. | |
| What's Seoul talking about in intellectuals and society? | |
| And it'll come out and say it says this, this, this, and this, and blah, blah, blah. | |
| Because the great thing about Thomas Sol is he's got such an unpretentious style where he just lays out a bunch of facts and says, so this is what's happening. | |
| And, well, what's the criticism? | |
| Like, there's an essay by Kimberly Crenshaw where she's criticizing or reacting to Thomas Soule, but she doesn't really refute anything that he says. | |
| She's just like, well, Thomas Sowell keeps making these points. | |
| And anyway, moving on, I think we should do something nonsense. | |
| Gorgeous Mayhem says, hey, Carl, what's the scuttle in the UK with Vance's speech? | |
| I'm American and I love JD Vance 2028. | |
| I don't know, to be honest. | |
| I mean, well, I mean, Like, with all things partisan, you know in advance what people's opinions are, right? | |
| So, the left-wing Europhile view is JD Vance is an evil American, and he's siding with Putin. | |
| The right-wing response is, well, that was a good speech, and that is true. | |
| That's a bunch of problems that we have. | |
| And I wish we had someone in Britain who or in Europe who would address them in the same way that Vance and Trump are addressing theirs in the United States. | |
| And so, it's just the kind of the old guard of the last paradigm are afraid of even engaging with anything they say. | |
| So, they're like, oh, well, Russia, that's Russia, that's Russia. | |
| It's like, dude, we don't care about Russia at all, right? | |
| When your closest allies and your most diabolical enemies converge on the same point, then you can't be like, well, you're just like each other. | |
| No, what you have to be is like, oh, the problem's probably with me then, right? | |
| Like, if you're both saying this thing, you say it because you think it's a weakness and are attacking me on it. | |
| You say it because you think it's a weakness and you wish me to improve on that. | |
| And so if you're both saying it, maybe there is some truth to that, right? | |
| That's what you need to take away from when both your enemies and your allies align on a point. | |
| It's not that your allies are suddenly your enemies, which is what the Europeans have decided, basically. | |
| It's insufferable. | |
| Especially as Vance made his point so well. | |
| It's such a good little speech. | |
| Paul says, the right views social media way more effectively than the left. | |
| Yeah, and that's the thing, isn't it? | |
| The right did not have the advantages of the left, right? | |
| The right was in not even a highly competitive space. | |
| The right was in an actively prosecutorial space against them. | |
| The left, kid gloves, hand-holding, artificial promotion in the algorithm, lots and lots of DNC financing and veriting USAID financing. | |
| Like these, the money was flowing, the clicks were flowing, and yet they couldn't stop people from clicking on that right-wing video. | |
| Because they were like, oh, I didn't want to watch that. | |
| And yet, the right manages to thrive in this environment. | |
| And so now when the thumbs are taken off the scales, yeah, everyone's like, oh my God, there's right-wings all over Twitter. | |
| Yeah, but there would have been before. | |
| Like we would, if Jack Dorsey and Vijaya Gad had moderated it in an impartial and neutral way, that's what it would have been like 10 years ago. | |
| But it wasn't, and so it wasn't. | |
| And only now, when it is, it is. | |
| Olive says, I believe in the prime creator God, and I believe in Jesus Christ, but I still have respect and reverence for the old gods in the old ways. | |
| Well, that's the point. | |
| It's not that they have nothing, right? | |
| It's not they had nothing to them. | |
| And again, I don't think any one intellectual perspective has a monopoly on the totality of the human experience because often they all contradict. | |
| And a problem that intellectuals have is they're like, okay, but I'm looking for a non-contradictory straight line that I can say this encompasses everything. | |
| It's like, no, sorry, human beings are contingent and contradictory creatures. | |
| And there's no getting around that fact. | |
| So stop looking for the one philosophy that solves everything and just do things that are appropriate, where appropriate, to an appropriate degree. | |
| Much more sort of relational perspective, as it were, sort of Mannheimian sense. | |
| And actually, this gives you a much more realistic view of what it is to be a human and where you can go from the place you're in. | |
| Because at the moment, we're trapped in a kind of political paralysis. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Well, if we don't give like Somali rapists a house in London for the taxpayer expense, which is a problem with human rights. | |
| No, no one think no one real thinks that. | |
| That's what insane lefty lawyers think, right? | |
| The Somalis themselves don't think this. | |
| Like, no one normal thinks this. | |
| Everyone's like, why are they still here? | |
| Like, don't know. | |
| The ECHR? | |
| EHRC, sorry? | |
| E-C-H-R. | |
| No, it isn't ECHR. | |
| Anyway, Dead Straw says, hi Sargon from Czechoslovakia and know what you mean? | |
| Well, Czechoslovakia was dissolved, was it? | |
| About, I don't know, 20 years ago or something. | |
| Duke says, I convert to Christianity not have a sense of true belief, but I have a longing, fear of death growing stronger, and need to know what comes next. | |
| You know, I haven't really thought about that that much. | |
| I just, like, I feel that that's kind of out of my control. | |
| And so I don't tend to worry about that that much. | |
| I think I've led a half-decent life. | |
| I don't think it's been atrocious. | |
| So, you know, I get the feeling that, you know, if it is exactly as Christian say, I get the feeling God will be moderately understanding. | |
| Mana says, hello, Carl. | |
| Hope all is well. | |
| When can we expect your next stream? | |
| Dave Green. | |
| It's been a while and I enjoy it when Kai Chat. | |
| Yeah, it's been a while, hasn't it? | |
| I did message him a while ago saying we should do a stream. | |
| And he was like, yes, but we should never arrange something, but I should arrange something for it. | |
| Because I do like Dave. | |
| Pirate Skeleton says, the left applies value to labels instead of using them as descriptive. | |
| For example, being labeled a racist is actually worse than doing racist things. | |
| Well, they think it's worse than being a rapist, don't they? | |
| Being a racist. | |
| Generico says, I've long suspected that whatever emerges from the right will be the new paradigm. | |
| To be in the new paradigm will be some combination of neo-reactionary utilitarian analysis, trado-Christian social order, and vitalist aesthetics. | |
| These are certainly the threads that are weaving through the new right, which are all, I think, interesting and worthwhile. | |
| There's nothing about them that doesn't have an intellectual pedigree, and nothing about them that doesn't properly describe some aspect of the world around us and the human condition. | |
| So, good stuff. | |
| Ninja says, Sargon, I was looking at the you versus Jim Sargon, the liberalist thing you did. | |
| With hindsight, what could you have done better with liberalists? | |
| Well, I didn't have the experience to do what I was trying to do, what I knew needed to be done. | |
| Didn't have the experience to do it. | |
| And so it was a bit ham-fisted with that. | |
| But also, there's a problem that liberalism is itself the issue. | |
| And I didn't understand the roots of liberalism then well enough, like I do now, to be able to identify the problems and to be able to properly ground whys in the why of the thing in the thing I was asking for. | |
| And so it was insufficiently deontological, basically. | |
| The problem is the deontological position of liberalism is just nonsensical, doesn't track with reality and has been done by us for so long that the woke know how to just take it apart. | |
| And so whatever it is, it can't be on that thing. | |
| So basically, that's that. | |
| So that was like 2018, I think. | |
| So it was before I started my degree. | |
| Frog says, US history in 10k AD. | |
| In 2022, Elon the Autist had reconquered Twitter, renamed X, freeing God Emperor Trump from the House of Orange and his vassals. | |
| Yes, I mean, it will be momentous. | |
| Elon's taking over Twitter will be in the history books, and it will be momentous. | |
| Historians will see that as an inflection point. | |
| Billion Dollar Dan says, I've been watching you for over a decade and I just realized I've never donated. | |
| $20 USD should get you a biscuit over there and angle that. | |
| Well, thank you very much. | |
| Actually, my wife was complaining earlier about just the price of everything. | |
| Like £6 for like eight Coke Zeros or something. | |
| I'm like, Jesus Christ. | |
| I didn't realize it got that bad. | |
| So she does the shopping, right? | |
| So I don't do the shopping. | |
| So I'm actually, I don't buy that much. | |
| I don't spend very much money, actually. | |
| I'm always giving her money, like you know, giving other people money. | |
| Uh, I don't really spend that much money myself. | |
| Um, and so when she comes up with the press, I'm like, Jesus, that's just mad. | |
| Eater Fox says, I had an argument with an ANCAP about the source of authority. | |
| He rejected it all, but he rejected that it all boils down to who has the biggest stick. | |
| My morality was one response. | |
| Yeah, so that's the liberal position, right? | |
| The Kantian legislature in the kingdom of ends. | |
| And that only holds as long as the other person is prepared to hear you out. | |
| That only holds as long as the other guy is prepared to have a discussion with you. | |
| If the other guy just picks up his stick and starts beating you with it, then it doesn't hold. | |
| And it doesn't matter whether you think you have moral authority, the other guy is just clubbing you. | |
| So you're right, Ether Fox. | |
| It's just one of those immutable laws of nature where the rationalist is like, what about my big brain? | |
| And the Grug is like, yeah, what about your big brain? | |
| Bonk. | |
| Like, so just shut up. | |
| You know, you may as well stop being so goddamn sufferable. | |
| McLeod said, Have you ever heard of Lindy Lee? | |
| She was deep in the DNC and had a lot of inside info to fill in the gaps of the DNC. | |
| Might be a good interview of Lotus Eater. | |
| She did an interview on the Sean Ride show. | |
| I have not heard of her, but that's interesting. | |
| I'll put her in a browser for later. | |
| Lohman says the way the right has been way too forgiving to normal Democrats. | |
| These people cheering for our censorship very recently. | |
| You don't hate these people enough. | |
| I guess this is in response to the Lindy Lee thing. | |
| Yeah, I've seen a lot of people saying that. | |
| And this, I think, comes back to the sort of Curtis Jarvin sort of how do you govern the libs? | |
| I do agree we shouldn't just elevate some leftist just because they've come over to the right. | |
| You know, they have to earn their stripes, right? | |
| But by contrast, I think we still should have a sort of mechanism for incorporation. | |
| We still need to have a plan to govern the libs, right? | |
| And if that means being at some point in the hierarchy of the new right-wing tent, then fine. | |
| But just remember where you come from. | |
| But the recent battle between Bannon and Elon over the nativist thing was really interesting because Bannon won that. | |
| Bannon just went total war on that. | |
| And I was, I was, you know, and I love Bannon, love Elon. | |
| Not happy with the infighting, but it was an issue that needed to be settled. | |
| And Bannon, Elon let it go pretty quickly, which is great. | |
| Generico says, I don't know if I have a lugubrious baritone. | |
| He baritoned lugubriously. | |
| Yeah, basically. | |
| Grinder Dem says, thoughts on Asmund Gold? | |
| I like Asmund Gold. | |
| I don't watch his streams because I don't watch anything, right? | |
| I have time to sit there and watch hours of people talking or anything. | |
| But I'll see his clips on Twitter going around, and there'll be some leftists going, Can you believe Asmund Gold said, and then I'll watch it, and it'll be like five minutes out of Asmundold's being completely reasonable, totally and utterly reasonable, and you know, pleasant, polite, affable, normal, like nice to hear talk. | |
| And it's just like, okay, well, what's wrong with that? | |
| Yeah, no, I think Asmogold's fine. | |
| I think he seems like a decent chap. | |
| Glad he cleaned his house. | |
| I saw that going around. | |
| It's like, goddammit, man. | |
| You know, get a girlfriend, get a wife, and get yourself sorted. | |
| But otherwise, I do like him. | |
| I think he's a good chap. | |
| Mad Beef says, this feels like an end. | |
| I read that one earlier. | |
| Noel Screaming for the Void says, I can't understand the European position on Ukraine. | |
| Right. | |
| It's a long thing to explain, but imagine your metaphysical Kantian Kingdom of Ends exists in Europe, and the European Union feels that they embody the most rationalistic, most liberal, most abstract form of morality. | |
| Now imagine that Russia represents the totemic opposite of that, which is the old style strongman thug morality, which is just strength first, doesn't care about your argument, not even going to listen. | |
| That person becomes a terrifying existential threat to you, especially if he starts prospering and you don't. | |
| And then when your nearest ally, Alex also, an anti-rational, thuggish, strongman, and he's just like, look, that guy's right about you. | |
| Would you fucking knock it off? | |
| You start having a meltdown right, and that's what's happening here. | |
| They're having a meltdown uh, an intellectual meltdown, of the fact that no one wants to hear their stupid arguments anymore, and that's the only weapon they've got. | |
| It's the only way they can defend themselves with anything. | |
| And so now they're just like, oh god, we're surrounded everywhere by racists and and dictators and tyrants and it's like yeah okay maybe, but you know, shut up, everyone's sick of you. | |
| Uh, thank you, Davey. | |
| Um Jamie says, uh, been a follower since Game Gate. | |
| It's been a wild ride. | |
| Keep it up. | |
| Yeah it's, it's nice to be in the pantheon of people who have had like spooky articles written about their influence. | |
| Uh, Jamie says, uh oh no sorry, uh swell. | |
| John K says, as an American, I found you from Timpool and your content has helped me become aware of our philosophical roots, and i'm very grateful. | |
| I'm glad to hear it. | |
| Tim's a great guy, obviously. | |
| Uh, he's doing great. | |
| So everyone's, everyone's doing great frankly, and i'd love to see everyone doing great as well. | |
| Like I like that. | |
| This is a competitive atmosphere, you know. | |
| So it's a. | |
| On the right, i've noticed it's friendly and competitive. | |
| The left was totally destructive, but I don't. | |
| I mean, there are white right wings who bitch each other out all the time, which I mean it's true um, but they don't seem to have the personality flaws of the left and I personally don't find myself involved in it right like I like everyone on the right, and I think everyone is probably doing something necessary, which is why they exist. | |
| And as long as you're essentially just constantly going full bore against the left all day, every day, i'm not going to get in your way. | |
| So have a great time and I hope you destroy another foundation of their ideology. | |
| Uh, sociologist Eugen Fitzherbert says, Sagon, you started everything. | |
| Basically, many now famous people have mentioned you as their inspiration. | |
| Also, you're a central figure in my book. | |
| Bloody well, thank you. | |
| Cj Westman says good day. | |
| Carl came from the libertarian, libertarian atheist, TYT Thunderfoot, Internet Aristocrat, rab Rabbit HOLE. | |
| Good to see you streaming at Australian breakfast time, like used to do at 30 subscribers, to be fair, I I never used to stream and I had 30 subscribers. | |
| I had about 2 000, I think, when I first started streaming. | |
| Um, I didn't really know how any of this worked back then um, but I still remember the very like the first 20 000 subscribers. | |
| I got Gamergate started when I had about 20 000 subscribers. | |
| So I felt like I was already a thing. | |
| You know, when you like, because back in the day I didn't watch Youtube, I didn't watch Youtube and it was just. | |
| I learned about Youtube as oh, I could just record some shit and put it up there. | |
| And when I got like 10 000 subscribers, i'm like, wow, i'm doing great this. | |
| You know I could pay some bills, you know I could. | |
| And when I, when I got to like 20 000 subscribers, I was getting about two grand a month, which was more than enough to live on I was like okay well, this will be my career now. | |
| And then Gamergate, sort of like, you know, took off and everything just kept climbing and I didn't, I didn't see myself as being. | |
| This was all new ground. | |
| And you know, I remember when I got 50 000 subscribers, I was like man, that's a mad number, that's absolutely insane. | |
| Like 20 000 because I was just because when you, when you're a normal person, someone says 20 000 to you, that is a huge number, whatever you're dealing with, right. | |
| But when it's subscribers on youtube or followers on twitter or something like that, that is a lot, but it's actually not very many. | |
| Uh, because social media tens of thousands is the small number, hundreds of thousands a middle number, millions is the big number, because it's obviously you've got access to all of humanity, Everyone who's overused the internet. | |
| So 20,000 in real life is a really big number. | |
| On the internet is not a very big number. | |
| But you know, everything's going great, which is great. | |
| Generica said, this is Sargon. | |
| He has radicalized the youth. | |
| Fear him and make him drink hemlock. | |
| Unheard 2025. | |
| Kind of, yeah. | |
| It is interesting being the kind of Socrates figure of that. | |
| I didn't even think about it. | |
| Again, I wouldn't have written the article myself, right? | |
| It would have felt too self-aggrandizing to have done that for myself. | |
| But it's very flattering. | |
| And I don't feel that we're nearly done yet. | |
| So personally, again, I think we've got another at least 15 years of slugging against the leftist wall in Britain. | |
| But it's going really well. | |
| And it's already cracked. | |
| And we can already see how our allies and other places are doing a great job. | |
| And we're like, oh, right, okay. | |
| Well, we'll keep going then. | |
| We're going to win. | |
| Look at them. | |
| Their defenses are terrible. | |
| Dan says, given that Christianity is what built the West, can there be a future for the West without a spiritual revival as well? | |
| I don't know. | |
| And the problem is you can't really extrapolate from previous eras in a way that's just non-ideological because anything you do from a previous era will be necessarily ideological. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| I think it would be nice. | |
| I think it would be good if we did become Christian again. | |
| I think, you know, future generations were much more Christian than they are now. | |
| That would be a good thing. | |
| Don't get me wrong. | |
| Arthur says, I can't have been listening to you since Gamergate. | |
| Great stream tonight, as always. | |
| What camera light do you use? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| GX Lumix. | |
| G5 Lumix. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I don't know what the lenses are. | |
| They're quite expensive, though. | |
| And the lights are just like, you know, lights. | |
| Like, just like the cheapest lights off Amazon. | |
| And I'm continuing with my philosophy degrees. | |
| And John again says, been living in a small rural US town for my whole life. | |
| Now it's full of foreigners and housing developments, not just the UK side. | |
| Yeah, it's everywhere. | |
| I haven't finished developing these ideas. | |
| But the concept of possession, collective possession, I think is really what's important. | |
| And it's a concept we accept for other people's, just not ourselves. | |
| And we need to think about it. | |
| But like I said, I haven't fully articulated the thought on that. | |
| But I will. | |
| It's kind of the point of what I'm doing. | |
| We will get there. | |
| These things take time. | |
| You see, you understand. | |
| Like, everything takes time. | |
| I need to refresh this because I realize there's been a bunch of ones that have come in since I've been talking. | |
| Rifty says there's an army of us who have been watching and learning from these heavyweights for over a decade. | |
| The infantry is the same knowledge as the generals. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| That's the great thing about all of this is like, you know, it might take me like, okay, I've got to do four years to do a degree or something. | |
| Okay. | |
| But now I can just lay out all this stuff and it saves you all this time. | |
| So you end up at exactly the point I ended up at without having to go through everything I've had to go through. | |
| And so that's superb. | |
| Again, this level of knowledge and experience dissemination is a superb thing because I know and I get messages from people all the time. | |
| It's like, oh, I knew this thing came up at my work the other day and I knew how to handle it because something you did in 2017 or something. | |
| I was like, oh, thank Christ. | |
| You know, thank Christ, I've at least become a bad example to people of what not to do or whatever it is, you know? | |
| Like, it's so nice that this is the case. | |
| And everyone's doing a great job. | |
| Like, I see people on Twitter all the time. | |
| I see people in the comments. | |
| I see you making the arguments and making the observations that I had failed to make in the video and stuff like this. | |
| And loads of people are always like, oh, I hate reading the comments. | |
| Like, okay, maybe I'm just lucky, or maybe it's the kind of content that you produce and the way that you curate it or something. | |
| Because, like, I always learn something from the people who are in my comments, which is why I read the comments. | |
| Because I want to know what they have to say. | |
| Anyway, Vapor Trail says, the cause of the West problems is not classical liberalism. | |
| It's atheism. | |
| There's no positive future for the West without Christianity. | |
| Well, you're going to really enjoy my first documentary that should be out later this month. | |
| Well, no, next month. | |
| But you're really going to enjoy that because liberalism and atheism end up kind of harmonizing in a lot of ways. | |
| Anyway, Alex says, Did you hear that this solved the Jack of Ripper mystery? | |
| It was an immigrant, of course. | |
| Well, it's not that this is so it's likely that it's this Polish guy, but it's not confirmed. | |
| However, it's probably the case that it is an immigrant, obviously. | |
| Generico says, Damn Colin, you were going hard, but I didn't realize you were going as go to as hard, go going to go as hard as Rome sacking Carthage, insulting the earth. | |
| Yes, metaphorically, that's what we're going to do to leftism. | |
| Thank you, Cameron. | |
| We're becoming Lebanon, Northern Ireland rapidly, Binary Surfer says. | |
| Well, I mean, Northern Ireland recently got a hit piece on it by the BBC. | |
| Oh, look how not diverse Northern Ireland is. | |
| Yeah, that's why everything seems to be going quite well for them. | |
| Yeah, we are, and things are getting worse. | |
| Rubber says, Do you think the farmers protest a practical way of the online right to move from just talking on social media to doing something in the real world? | |
| Yeah, I think all of these protests are good. | |
| Like, people are like, what's the point of the Tommy protest? | |
| Well, it kind of got Nigel Farage to admit the legitimacy of Tommy's cause and the fact that he's being abused by the state. | |
| Rupert Lowe's constantly posting about this on Twitter now. | |
| It's like, that's a worthwhile thing to do. | |
| Also, what it does is it normalizes it to people like Michelle Dubry and various other GB news hosts who are sympathetic to these people. | |
| They don't really know. | |
| And so creating a massive and family-friendly demonstration of people who are like, no, look, we're here for the right reasons. | |
| You can see that we're here for the right reasons. | |
| So you're welcome to come and be patriots with us. | |
| Like Michelle Dubry had nothing but praise to say about the one we did in Trafalgar Square, which was literally 50,000 to 100,000 people. | |
| It was just massive, spanning the streets. | |
| Absolutely massive. | |
| And it was just like, you know, this is incredible. | |
| This is incredible. | |
| And something really works off this. | |
| So yeah, the farmers protest, again, it's a great thing to bring people on side who otherwise may not have been on site. | |
| It's an event and it's good for morale and it's good to sort of push the ripples of it outwards. | |
| So yeah, no, I think these protests are good. | |
| Frozen and afraid says, the Kantian ethics that the left has weaponized and hid behind breaks down when someone stops caring. | |
| The right has stopped caring. | |
| Yeah, that's precisely it. | |
| That's precisely it. | |
| It only works if you're prepared to engage with an argument from that person. | |
| And if you're not, they can just fucking screw themselves. | |
| Alan says, I don't think I've ever been optimistic as I am right now. | |
| It might take 20 years, but when we have, we will have our homes. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Like I said, it's going to be a 20-year plan. | |
| But we're five years in, and this is what they're writing. | |
| Like, oh, God, these people's morality is everywhere. | |
| These people are taking over. | |
| All the youth agree with all of these evil right-wingers that we were trying to lock out of the discourse. | |
| It's like, yeah, well, there we go. | |
| That's interesting, isn't it? | |
| Rob says, what are your thoughts on advanced speech? | |
| It was superb. | |
| Just superb. | |
| There's not really a lot to say about it, because it was just great. | |
| I can't pronounce that, which is the point. | |
| Been here since the interior semiotics and splat days. | |
| Sometimes I miss those simple new atheism days. | |
| But understanding the rot of critical theory and nihilism, death of God must be faced. | |
| Yeah, it has to be. | |
| Like, someone on Twitter the other day was like, yeah, I just want to play video games and now I'm engaged in a fifth generational warfare against Satan and the forces of the Antichrist. | |
| I was just like, yeah. | |
| You know, there are going to be some people who believe that literally. | |
| But metaphorically, it kind of is true. | |
| It's basically true. | |
| It's basically true. | |
| It's basically what it is. | |
| I'm not interested in arguing the semantics or ontology of these things anymore. | |
| But yeah, I mean, if there was an Antichrist and they did have legions marching across the earth, how would it look any different? | |
| Like, what would you do differently to Satan? | |
| I mean, you literally have Satanists, you literally have like everything profane, and you bring it together and say, Yes, we're the evil, profane people. | |
| Like, what would Satan do differently? | |
| They say, probably, like, Jesus Christ, there's a Babylon V video of him like, well, we can't have that many abortions. | |
| He's like, slow down, you know, like where Satan looks like a moderate compared to these people. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| But basically, yeah, we're fifth generational warfare against the Antichrist to restore the divine order of the world as according to the eternal God. | |
| I'm okay with that. | |
| That sounds pretty awesome to me. | |
| It sounds kind of epic, to be honest. | |
| It sounds great. | |
| Guys, if you thought you were bored, why not do this? | |
| Like, no, no, no, we are going to restore the entire universe around us, actually. | |
| This is a cosmic and spiritual war. | |
| We're going to win because our enemies are degenerate freaks and they can't help but lose. | |
| So, get on board. | |
| We're going to do this. | |
| Mr. Swoon says, I came in about the same time as AA, so the retrospective was enjoyable. | |
| Made me think of those who were beyond the pale for us 10 years ago. | |
| Woes Morgoth spare a thought for them during the trial? | |
| Oh, I do. | |
| I do. | |
| I apologize to Woes. | |
| I'm friends with Morgoth, you know. | |
| Like, a lot of the time, these people didn't really, they didn't have the tool set that has been developed, and so they got shot by the liberals for not properly articulating themselves, which is the way they always kill people, frankly. | |
| Um, but the and render them as enemies. | |
| Uh, thank you, DM. | |
| I much appreciate it. | |
| Uh, Abe the Man says, My copy of Islander 2 showed up. | |
| Thank God, praise the heavens. | |
| Yeah, sorry, we're really sorry, man. | |
| We've just been manually posting them out because our delivery company screwed us. | |
| Islander shirt on now. | |
| Um, yeah, we commissioned the Mayflower to do the fucking delivery. | |
| So, I'm so sorry. | |
| I hope you really enjoy it. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| I'm really pleased with it. | |
| Um, we worked really, really hard on it. | |
| And issue three is around the corner. | |
| We have changed delivery companies, right? | |
| So, whatever the previous delivery company did, we've changed them. | |
| I don't know what they've done. | |
| They screwed us. | |
| I'm not happy with it at all. | |
| But we have, and it's more expensive. | |
| This new delivery company, but it's totally worth it because you'll get email tracking and stuff like that on it. | |
| I'll do a video that explains it properly. | |
| Um, but you'll get email tracking, and this uh, it will arrive literally within days rather than months of you ordering, I promise. | |
| Again, really sorry, man, but we're doing we're doing well, we're doing well. | |
| Uh, Mason says, Planning a holiday, would you even recommend you visit the UK at this point? | |
| Well, yeah, I mean, there are there are lots of places in the UK that are lovely. | |
| Um, you just have to know where they are. | |
| Like, in the southwestern Devon, there are still loads of English towns and cities that are just lovely little English towns and cities. | |
| Bath is still lovely, Durham is still lovely, Wells is still lovely, you know, loads of little places like that. | |
| Cotswell's still lovely. | |
| Go to these places, go to you know, go to some nice place in Scotland or Wales or something, Northern Ireland. | |
| Don't go to Manchester or London or Birmingham, you know, like just avoid those places. | |
| Uh, the left-wing governments refuse to understand that Europe needs to be seen as something worth protecting by Americans for this alliance to continue. | |
| Yes, yeah, the Europeans don't understand themselves, frankly, at this point, and they don't know what they're doing. | |
| Lone the Dark says, the desire for 100% applies in all situations. | |
| Philosophy can never be made by man. | |
| You can get a general idea at best, all being contingent on truth. | |
| Yeah, well, yeah, that's the point. | |
| And the struggle against contradiction is something that plagues modern rationalist philosophy. | |
| As if the world could be made uncontradictory. | |
| It's not going to happen. | |
| Drew says, what are your thoughts on USAID funding the Jesuit Relief Foundation to migrate refugees to Ireland? | |
| Well, I mean, against, obviously. | |
| Like, of course, I'm not in favor of that. | |
| It's 11 o'clock, and so I have to go to bed because I have to be up tomorrow because it's ARC tomorrow. | |
| I'm going to arc and I've got to get up really early. | |
| So I'm going to have to just say thank you to everyone who has sent a super chat since that I haven't got to. | |
| Really sorry I didn't get to them, but I'm absolutely shattered. | |
| I wasn't going to do this, but I was like, no, I should, because this is a fun thing. | |
| You know, I wish I had done it because I won't be able to do anything until Thursday now. | |
| So now they've remonetized my channel properly. | |
| I want to, you know, make sure I can actually get some good content out. | |
| And I won't be able to do anything for the most of the week. | |
| So I wanted to do something. | |
| So there's something here for people. | |
| If, you know, if you're like, oh, I wonder what Sargon's done this week and see. | |
| But thank you, everyone, for joining me. | |
| I really appreciate it. | |
| And I really appreciate all the support of the years and the, you know, the fact that like when like Mike Cernovich tweeted this out, have I got the, I don't know if I've got the actual. | |
| Mike Cernovich tweeted this. | |
| Oh, yeah, here we go. | |
| And this was just a lovely thing. | |
| So he'd tweeted out originally. | |
| If you weren't around in 2014, it's impossible to comprehend the footprint and influence of Carl Benjamin. | |
| Even put some people on the map. | |
| He was quickly forgotten once those courageous voices were told Carl was too controversial. | |
| And then follows up with Carl Osagon, as he was known then, was impossibly polite. | |
| He was a stereotype in the good way of a British intellectual. | |
| Subsequent events have shown him to be one of the last remaining ones. | |
| History should remember him. | |
| What a kind thing to say. | |
| And so this ginned up just a huge amount of people just being, you know, being very, very kind to me. | |
| And I was like, this, normally it's the other way, right? | |
| Normally what will happen is like, and this happened probably about six months ago, a year ago, something like that. | |
| Out of the blue, Jess Phillips just started attacking me for some reason. | |
| I didn't say anything about her. | |
| And she was just dredging up on things. | |
| And suddenly it was just like, I was getting all these attack articles. | |
| I was like, oh, okay, thanks, Jess. | |
| And so this was kind of nice the other way, where it's just suddenly like an article comes out and everyone starts saying really nice things about it. | |
| Oh, thanks very much. | |
| I wasn't expecting it. | |
| You know, I really appreciate it. | |
| And I really appreciate all the kind words, by the way, because there have been loads. | |
| And it's a very, very nice thing that all of the hard work has been paying off because it has been a lot of work. | |
| And, you know, like my beard now, don't look at the fat. | |
| Look at the white. | |
| Look how much more white my beard is. | |
| Jesus Christ. | |
| I'm not going to lie. | |
| It's not that it's not stressful. | |
| It is stressful. | |
| And it's not that it's not laborious as well. | |
| There's another thing as well. | |
| It's like people are like, oh, you're just making videos. | |
| It's like, yeah, okay, but that's still energy. | |
| And it's mental energy as well. | |
| You know, I read book after book after book and I sit there and think about stuff. | |
| And, you know, it is exhausting. | |
| It is tiring to do this. | |
| And thank you, Stuart. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| I'm so glad you've got it, man. | |
| Like I said, Islander 2 was great. | |
| And Islander 3, the great thing with the Islanders, right, is that we are telling a story with them. | |
| And in America, everything's going really well. | |
| At least it looks like it now. | |
| But in Britain, we're really reaching the nadir of the thing. | |
| And everyone can feel we're, I mean, surely we're going to scrape the bottom of this soon, right? | |
| And there's a genuine feeling of dispossession that what we are speaking to in Islander 3. | |
| And it's, again, it's become a genuinely kind of spiritual mission at this point where it's like, no, no, no. | |
| We are. | |
| We are getting to the very lowest reaches of our souls. | |
| And seeing what is what what it is that makes us what we are right. | |
| And I'm so so proud of what we've managed to do with issue three. | |
| I think I honestly, you guys are going to be blown away by it. | |
| I really think, and I wouldn't say that if I didn't believe it, right? | |
| If I didn't genuinely, I never say that sort of stuff, but I think you're genuinely blown away by it. | |
| But anyway, um, I probably sounding tired because I am. | |
| So, thank you for joining me. | |
| Um, yeah, so I'll come on the white. | |
| Yeah, well, you know, I'm more than happy, uh, to I'm more than happy to endure my beard going white if it means that the end Frodo, whoever that is, chucks the ring into Mordor and brings down the dark tower. |