Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin - Have We Passed Peak Woke?

Nov. 2, 2024 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin

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Have We Passed Peak Woke?

Do we expect to see a decline in woke politics, or is it here to stay? My gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC5Dnv367-NtthPT59qJlpDA Do we expect to see a decline in woke politics, or is it here to stay? My gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UC5Dnv367-NtthPT59qJlpDA

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	Folks, I think I'm live.
	Let's let it all catch up with itself for a minute.
	And we'll I'm five minutes early, right?
	So very Very often I'm late to do any kind of stream or anything like that.
	So don't complain now that I'm live and hi chat.
	I see that you're already answering the question of have we passed peak woke?
	Spoiler alert, the answer is no, right?
	The answer is no.
	We've just passed the initial tidal wave of woke, where it was working out where it could go and where it couldn't go.
	And we'll get into that in a bit.
	Hello there, Mana Yud.
	Hello, Joseph Stalin.
	Strange to find you on the right these days.
	Yeah, no, it's not good.
	It's not good.
	And the assumptions that woke people make will be baked into everything that we have going forward because they are predicated upon classically liberal assumptions that have been bastardized by insanely left-wing activists.
	So there isn't any way to roll it back from within the liberal paradigm, no matter what kind of liberal that you are.
	So the question is, have we reached peak woke?
	well no you've just reached it being the the the initial cavalcade of woke being overtly in your face and aggressively against you will die down because they won They don't need to keep treating you like an enemy faction to be conquered because we were defeated.
	We have been taken over by them.
	And I will show you that in the course of this stream.
	So what was I gonna, oh yeah.
	Before we begin, there's a link in the description to my gaming channel.
	Go and follow it because there I do things that are not woke.
	Things that are just fun and relaxing and not political in any way, shape, or form.
	Just get away to decompress.
	So come and join me over there.
	It's really good.
	I'm doing really good Battlelord playthrough at the moment.
	It's going great.
	But anyway, do we think these people are going away?
	The answer is, of course, no.
	So this stream, this entire conversation, has been kicked off by articles like this, where in the Financial Times, in December 2023, they asked, was this the year of peak woke?
	No.
	What wishful thinking?
	And you can see why they might think that.
	One might hope that, right?
	They think in 2024, woke is likely to recede.
	I've yet to see any evidence of this.
	There's no reason to think that.
	And thank you, Gaz Johns.
	I'm doing the best that I can with what I have available.
	They complain that the term woke has been twisted to the point of deformity.
	No, it means basically the presupposition that all groups are fundamentally the same and any differences between groups are based on some kind of institutional discrimination that is itself unfair.
	That's what woke means.
	And so it doesn't, it's not in any way deformed.
	All of its activists use it in that way.
	All of its activists use it to mean that and assume that whenever they approach anything.
	So that's not a difficult thing to do, right?
	As a middle-aged, white-ish man, I may not be best placed to pronounce the decline of woke.
	You are woke.
	That you consider that to be these to be disqualifying criteria just shows how far that they've gone to win over everyone, right?
	Now, they point out that, well, hang on a second.
	You've got leaders who have come to see being woke as not necessarily profitable.
	That's true.
	And it's here that we should delineate between two kinds of woke.
	Should we say the crusading woke and the kind of homeopathic woke?
	The two are the same.
	They're based on the same presupposition.
	They have the same moral framework.
	But they approach problems in different ways.
	The crusading woke, of course, wants to attack.
	It raises its armies of Twitter activists.
	It has its blades and sharp spears that are racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	All of the insults that you're, you know, the slings and arrows that you're very used to.
	And they go out of their way to target the enemies.
	They specifically say, no, those people are far right.
	Those people are far right.
	Those people are far right.
	They have to be defeated and routed out of whatever institutional area that we're dealing with.
	And then they go in to aggressively woke-ify everything, to turn.
	They put up the giant pride flags, the Palestine flags, the George Floyd murals.
	They very aggressively, it's like Christian Crusaders putting up a big cross outside of Jerusalem, right, during the First Crusade.
	You have very aggressive crusading people.
	And then afterwards, you have what I guess I'm just going to call the homeopathic woke, which are the woke that have just seeped into everything.
	After the Crusaders have made the ground safe for the woke to operate, they are the priests.
	They are the normal aspect of woke that just lives in everyday life around us.
	The homeopathic woke is the pride crosswalks that you have to walk across on your way to get to work.
	They're the fact that the poppy badge from the Royal Artillery or whoever it was has got an LGBT flag on it.
	They are the pronouns in the bios of corporate emails and things like this.
	This normalizing of wokeness is everywhere now.
	Everywhere.
	Every government institution, every corporate institution to some degree has a layer of woke on top of it.
	And even if the people aren't particularly in favor of it, even if people don't engage with it, it's still there.
	It's a part of the culture as a pollutant now.
	This is normal and it's not going away without any concerted effort, without a kind of crusading counter-revolution.
	It's not going to go away.
	Sorry, I just noticed there were a couple of super chats that came in that I missed.
	If you brought one of the books from Load Seaters, we only sell magazines, but email the website.
	I can't do anything about it here, I'm afraid.
	Email the website and we'll get it sorted, though.
	But this normal woke that's now part of the milieu in which we live, well, that's not going away.
	And it's just going to become the regular thing that we do.
	So to say, well, being woke is not profitable.
	Yeah, the aggressive crusading woke isn't profitable.
	That's right.
	People don't choose it.
	People have had it forced upon them and it wasn't something they personally wanted.
	And so shoehorning progressive social messages helped to account for poor box office performance.
	No doubt that that's true.
	Being lectured by an angry person with purple hair is not very appealing.
	And when given the option, people don't naturally choose it.
	And so you have lots of examples that people will use.
	For example, do you need a mod?
	Okay.
	There you go.
	Enjoy your moderation powers, Dex.
	Anyway, so you've got examples like Boeing, where recently Boeing have decided that they are going to dismantle their global diversity, equity, and inclusion department.
	And this is emblematic of many large corporations that have done something similar.
	Why?
	Why are they doing this?
	Well, as I say here, the staff from the office, we combine with another human resources team focused on talent and employee experience, according to people familiar with the matter.
	Right.
	So those people aren't being fired, right?
	They're not being told, hang on, morally, there was something wrong with what you were doing.
	No.
	They're saying, oh, morally, you are correct.
	However, practically, what you are doing is not sufficient.
	Because the problem with the crusading woke is that when it bursts forth like a dam breaking and flooding over an area, everyone is rushing to fall in line.
	Everyone is like, oh, well, I have to give to Black Lives Matter.
	I have to employ DEI.
	Oh, my God, everyone's doing it.
	I have to make it happen.
	Which brings in corruption.
	This allows people who are not qualified, not decent, not good actors, blah, blah, blah, to snap up things that the otherwise inexperienced bosses or like whoever, MPs, SPADs, whatever it is, you know, whoever it is.
	They didn't know what was going on.
	And now there are lots of people saying, hey, I'm a guy who can do that for you.
	Do you want me to do it?
	And they go, yes, please.
	Boom.
	Here's as much money as you could ever carry.
	Go and make it happen.
	And it doesn't really happen because a lot of this is that grifters come along with the crusade.
	And so they loot as much as they can.
	And again, Black Lives Matter is just the best example of this.
	Because, of course, it really means black mansions matter.
	But anyway, so they have found themselves with large and well-funded corporate DEI sectors that are not doing the job because they're full of people who are grifters.
	And they're like, okay, well, we need to do something about that.
	Okay, well, you need to do something about it for practical reasons, for utilitarian reasons, not for sort of deontological moral reasons, which is why I think you should be doing something about this.
	I don't think you should have expressly racially focused departments to hire people because they're black or brown or gay or trans or whatever.
	I don't think you should have that.
	That's not what merit-based hiring means.
	I know I'm an old throwback on this, but I still do think that merit was a good way to get anything done, especially if you're working for Boeing, right?
	Now, this doesn't matter so much in the case of Disney.
	Fewer people die when Disney shoehorns progressive social messages into its films, right?
	When they have a corrupt department of activist grifters, not many people get injured.
	But Boeing, and I'm sure you've noticed the weird number of Boeing failures that have happened recently and near misses and like, oh, strange breakages and things like that that have happened.
	And so, you know, when it's happening to somewhere like Boeing, dealing with the corruption in the DEI, because I mean, it's not that they couldn't hire, according to these characteristics, people who were actually qualified.
	But of course, it's not what's happened.
	They were like, nope.
	If the Royal Air Force is to go anything to go by, their hiring practices are stymied when it comes to DEI because of, quote, useless white males who are applying.
	Now, all of these white males are amazing pilots, I'm sure, and can do the job perfectly well, but they're useless according to terms of DEI.
	And so they've stuffed these corporate divisions full of people who are fucking crap, who are just crap at what they do.
	They're no good.
	And what are we supposed to do about it?
	Well, this is what they do about it.
	They've moved those people into another human resources team focused on talent and employee experience.
	But they're not draining these people out of it.
	They are combining it.
	They're like, okay, well, we can't just pack them full of browns or women or trans.
	That doesn't work.
	We actually still need expertise.
	We still need institutional professionalism.
	And so this is not the failure. of the crusading woke.
	This is the success of the crusading woke.
	This is how the crusading woke turns into the homeopathic woke.
	Turns into the woke that has now conquered and is now winning the peace.
	This is the problem.
	So I don't know who Nathan Kofnass is, but I found this really, really good substack in which he lists reasons as to why woke is not going away.
	We are saddled with it.
	And he is absolutely right on these points.
	And he, in fact, uses the phrase of the Crusades as a framing device for this as well.
	Because honestly, that's what it was.
	It was a moral crusade against a heretical enemy that they have fought and successfully won.
	They control everything.
	And he is correct when he describes his, what is essentially woke in definition?
	Well, races and sexes and all other kind of categories that you can potentially delineate between, all have the same innate distribution of potential.
	All group disparities must be the result of environmental forces.
	Totally correct.
	That is exactly what woke is.
	And this is, as he calls it, a noble lie.
	Yeah, this is a noble lie that all of the people that you know, all of the politicians, all of the corporate heads, they all believe this.
	They all believe that potential, talent, whatever you want to call it, is equally distributed amongst all human beings and all levels.
	And therefore, if there is a differential, then it is an environmental factor.
	Now, whether you agree with that or not, it doesn't matter.
	That's just the way that they view things.
	That's what they believe in.
	And that is fundamentally the presupposition of wokeism as well.
	This is why wokeism, even though they might find the operational nature of how it works objectionable, they don't find the ultimate moral telos of it objectionable.
	They actually find themselves in agreement with it.
	So he, like I said, he's got very, I mean, it's just basically summarized here.
	A very, very good article on this.
	And this, in the beginning of 2023, there were commentators who were saying, well, wokeism's winding down because there are fewer examples of cancel culture going on.
	Now, this was taken to mean that fewer woke people were getting into institutions or there were fewer successes, etc., etc.
	But actually what this means is that the initial stages of the war, the battles were won, right?
	That's what cancel culture was.
	So cancel culture was woke culture showing the power that it had to win battles in the moral realm.
	Is it right that this person does X or is it right that this person does Y?
	Well, you want one side, we want the other, and we got what we wanted.
	So that person's cancelled, that person's cancelled, that person's cancelled, right?
	Series of high-profile, like imagine each one of these is basically being a city being conquered, right?
	Okay, so territory's been taken.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	And that eventually drops off because there's very little else to take.
	But also, because the reason that you do this is to not only demonstrate your power and cow the opponents, but also because you don't know if you can, right?
	You don't know if you are powerful enough to take that city until you try it and take it, right?
	Now, once you've done that, once you've got a string of victories under your belt, actually routing out and extirpating the very last exigencies of the far right or things that are not woke is less necessary because you become more secure in your own power.
	Wokeism is here, it has conquered, and it intends to stay.
	It now feels that activists feel as if they are actually more secure.
	And there has been some sort of substantive pushback in the form of Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
	But it's not to destroy woke as much as Elon Musk would like to destroy the woke mind virus.
	He's not going to do it.
	The best that he can do is show them, and very much like the Arabs coming up to Constantinople.
	They arrive at a city they can't take and they besiege it and fail a bunch of times.
	And then they just say, fine, we'll just be satisfied with the gargantuan empire that we've conquered up until this point.
	And we'll work on that.
	You know, we're not going away.
	We're going to be here for another 1,400 years.
	We're not going away.
	We'll work on that.
	And 1,000 years later, they do end up taking Constantinople.
	It was the Turks that took the Muslim conquest.
	And so this is what we're experiencing now.
	The initial Muslim conquests were a very huge burst of energy where lots was taken very, very quickly.
	And then afterwards, you see it drop off.
	Is that the end of Islam?
	No, no, that's not the end of Islam.
	That is Islam breaking through the frontiers and rushing like a tide over those things that won't stop it until it reaches a hard border.
	And once it's reached a hard border, then it settles down to consolidate.
	That's what it did.
	And that's what everything does.
	That's what these sorts of moral tidal waves do.
	And that's what we're seeing here.
	And so, and again, Nathan grasps this completely.
	He's completely correct when he says this.
	He makes these points as well.
	He is absolutely right.
	And so he, again, brings up more statistics and data that they use.
	So they think the economist thinks, well, no, wokeism is nodding off.
	But is it, though, right?
	So what is happening is the trend is stabilizing in all of these things.
	So when Americans who agree that racial differences in outcomes are mainly due to discrimination, oh, it was 58%, something like that.
	And then it went down to like 56%.
	Okay, well, that's, if it plummeted, then I would say, oh, well, that's the American public not being woke.
	But if most people in America agree that racial difference in outcomes are mainly due to discrimination, which can't be shown, by the way, I mean, you can remember the New York Times did a thing, I think it was in 2019 or 2017, one of those, where they just cataloged, for example, every death at the hands of police.
	And it was literally in double digits, the number of black men who were murdered by police while unarmed.
	That doesn't say that they did nothing wrong.
	They might have been trying to get the gun or something like that.
	But it was literally in double digits.
	Whereas the American public think it's thousands.
	And people on the very far left think it's tens of thousands of black people are just shot dead for no reason by cops every year in America.
	It's not true, but that's what they believe because of the media, because of the way that woke culture has been interfacing with the mainstream culture.
	And so the mainstream culture is just like, well, yeah, I guess it must be systemic racism then.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, really?
	Incredible.
	And so you see that creeping up, but then you see it was essentially leveling off.
	And again, you see woke terms in print media.
	Oh, well, it's not going up anymore.
	Well, sorry, it's 80%, 75%.
	Like, that's an incredible amount that it levels off at.
	It's not dropping off.
	Woke terms and best-selling book titles are quite a lot, it seems.
	Work terms and social science papers, oh, it's leveled off just a little bit.
	So almost all social science papers had woke terms, but now it's just something like 90% of them.
	Okay, incredible.
	Incredible.
	Like, so, again, levels remain at historic highs.
	Yeah, incredible levels of wokeism to the point where they're looking around going, okay, I don't actually see anything non-woke.
	Everything around me is woke.
	So maybe I don't need to be the crusader at this point.
	Maybe I don't need to cancel that, you know, silly little YouTube channel that's like, hey guys, I don't agree with wokeness.
	Maybe we don't need to cancel that person because they're not a threat to the hegemony of woke.
	Woke controls everything.
	It's not a problem.
	And he says here, is another chart from the economist is supposed to illustrate the demise of DEI culture.
	Is it a demise or is it a very small downturn?
	Like, sorry, you know, this is very, very well represented in everyday parts of life.
	And so, oh no, I've just done that one.
	Right.
	So he carries on.
	And he uses the example of Martin Luther being like, well, you know, is this an attack on DEI because there's an attack on woke-ism?
	In the way that people have often said, well, wokeism doesn't do what it's saying that it will do.
	And it's like, okay, but what you're saying there is, I am woke, and I would like wokeism.
	It's just this crusade isn't bringing about the woke utopia I was asking for.
	So criticizing woke on its own terms will not do.
	It will not reduce woke.
	And in fact, only serves to confirm that everything about the woke crusade was correct.
	It's right that they rule.
	And we ought to continue spreading the kind of homeopathic woke to get things on.
	For anyone's like, yeah, I'm tired.
	I'm always tired.
	I've had a really long week.
	I never get enough sleep because I've got four kids.
	And so the question, is there a go woke, go broke?
	Well, kind of yes and kind of no, right?
	So when you have the crusading preaching woke, yes, that tends to be very unpopular.
	You can use the example, recent example of Concorde, which is a $400 million video game that was produced by Sony that, I think, got a maximum of something like 700 concurrent players at the time.
	And that's nothing, right?
	That's nothing.
	It sold like 25,000 copies.
	Absolutely nothing.
	Because it was a very excessively woke game.
	Well, people didn't like it.
	Dragon Age Veilgard seems to be doing fairly well, actually.
	And that's an incredibly woke game.
	So who knows?
	Maybe, but it looks like there are a lot of enough people, enough normies are buying Dragon Age just because of Dragon Age and will accept the woke stuff in it.
	Like there's a particular part in this where it's been going around on the internet where one of them misgenders another and so there's like a two-minute cutscene about misgendering in it, which is just insane.
	It's absolutely insane how woke this is.
	And yet this isn't being met with tremendous failure, although it's not nearly as successful as they would like to make it out to be.
	But the thing is, you'll notice now, though, that in every video game, whether it is, you know, that isn't, even if it's not a crusading woke video game, it will be in some way mildly homeopathically woke.
	For example, there are lots of games where they have pronouns in.
	You can choose your character's pronouns.
	Now, this will do nothing in the game, right?
	Like, for example, I play the Battletech game from a few years ago now, from like 2018.
	And I really enjoy that game.
	You can choose your pronouns in it.
	It does nothing.
	It doesn't affect the game in any way, shape, or form.
	And the game itself, obviously, very diverse, obviously.
	Does nothing in the game, but it's still there.
	This is the homeopathic effect of it.
	It's like one particle in a million sort of thing, but it's still there and it's going to be there and it's going to continue being just something that things do.
	And like Japanese game developers, like when they get developing for the Western market, start putting in ugly characters because they think, oh, Westerners like ugly characters.
	It's like, no, we just don't have a choice.
	Again, if you want to play a video game, if you want a new game, then you've got an ugly character.
	You just have to deal with it because that's what our developers make now.
	And so GoBroGoWoke is not guaranteed.
	If it's a crusading, woke, brow-beating product, then yeah, often people will just not be interested in it because they don't want to be lectured to.
	But the homeopathic wokeness is in everything and it's not going to go away.
	And there's, I mean, there are certain boycotts that work, but they require a massive coordinated effort, frankly, from American Republicans.
	That's the only place where it happens.
	And so you've got the next question, which is, well, are the Zoomers going to be less woke?
	Are the Zoomers going to be based on right-wing?
	And the answer to that is basically no.
	It's a minority of them that are based on right-wing.
	The majority of Zoomers have accepted all of the woke premises that the millennials have imposed on them without question and basically just think that the millennials are running the world correctly.
	I mean, Nathan uses the question of was Google right to fire James DeMoore as a litmus test?
	Well, I mean, more Zoomers than millennials agree that Google's right to fire James DeMoore.
	Like, two-thirds of them in both America and Britain.
	Like, yeah, you should fire James DeMoore for saying actually there might be something intrinsically biological that is a difference between the sexes that explains why Google is so well represented for autistic young men and less so for women, right?
	Tech companies in general, in fact, why young men are so well represented in these fields and why women aren't.
	And James Moore got fired for that.
	I think he successfully sued them, actually, which is good.
	But the point being is, two-thirds of Zoomers agree with that.
	So is this the based anti-woke generation?
	Is it?
	I don't think so.
	And I know there are lots of anti-woke Zoomers, don't get me wrong, and we'll talk about those in a minute.
	But you can't say that they're representative of Zoomers as a whole because it just doesn't look like they are.
	And excuse me, this data has been coming out for quite a few years now.
	And initially, people are like, oh, look, the Zoomers seem to be proper based.
	No, actually, no, that was never on the cards, actually.
	And so, again, the Zoomers just seem to have bought into everything that the millennials have said, and they don't seem to think that it's wrong.
	They don't care why it's wrong.
	And again, look at this, right?
	My fear of losing my job or reputation due to something I said or posted online is a justifiable price to pay to protect historically disadvantaged groups.
	Agreement by actual level of fear and age.
	The black line is fear is a justified price to pay.
	More than half of 18 to 25s agree with that.
	More than half.
	Again, way more than the millennials.
	Like, because they've been taught one thing about the United States by the millennials, which is that the United States and the West generally has just been evil and oppressive and bad to marginalized groups.
	And of course, marginalized groups are the most important thing in society, caring about the condition of marginalized groups.
	There's nothing more important than that.
	And so, yeah, no, I do.
	And as you see, almost half of them fear losing their job of reputation, which is the grey line, based on posting something online.
	But they think it's okay to do it.
	They think, no, I should live in a state of fear, actually.
	It's only the only way we can justify ourselves in the face of the bad that we've done in the past.
	It's like, right.
	The Gen Xers, boomers, and millennials at least lived in a world where the civilization had a positive narrative for itself, right?
	It could explain, no, we did do good things.
	We did do some bad things.
	We did some good things, just like every other civilization.
	And therefore, we're not wholly bad.
	And actually, maybe punishing people for the sins of their ancestors isn't really very fair.
	Well, the Zoomers, half of them don't agree with that.
	Again, more than half of them don't agree with that.
	It's like, that's crazy.
	That's absolutely crazy.
	And Tobian says, imagine trusting statistics in the year of our Lord.
	I am as skeptical as you are about statistics and especially on the origins of them.
	But this comes from Eric Kaufman.
	And I know Eric Kaufman personally.
	He is very bass.
	He's very right-wing.
	He's very much on side.
	And he is just raising the alarm.
	Look, we can't allow ourselves to be trapped in a bubble online where we're convinced everyone around us is anti-woke.
	Well, actually, they agree with everything the woke say.
	What they are is anti-crusade.
	They agree with the woke stuff.
	They just don't like the crusading stuff.
	And so they're fine with homeopathic wokeness.
	Why not?
	It's just being kind, isn't it?
	And we have to accept this new moral order.
	There's loads, loads more in here.
	You should definitely take the time to go and read the whole thing yourself because he goes through this in a lot more exhaustive detail than I'm going to go through here.
	But he gets to the point where it's like, look, Trump's win, there is an inflection point coming in the United States, right?
	So if Kamala Stay Woke Harris wins, we'll continue the ascent of Mount Woke with direct assistance from the government.
	There's a high probability that Trump and his MAGA followers will do something to discredit themselves and their movement, which will destroy all organized opposition to workers in the US.
	A Trump win would be better, but unless it's combined with a hereditarian revolution, it won't make much difference in the long run.
	Trump can reverse Biden administration's most noxious DEI policies, appoint conservative judges and tighten the borders, but nothing he does will make liberals give up their conviction that the meaning of life is to wage jihad against the mystical forces of bigotry that lead to racial disparities.
	If anything, Trump winning the election will reinforce young and educated people's identity as leftists and Democrats.
	Now, like I said, I don't know anything about this guy.
	I don't know what he's advocating for or anything like that, but he is correct in those statements, right?
	It is entirely, even if Trump wins, he's not changing the paradigm, the frame of the conversation.
	He is merely saying, I'd rather go in this direction than that direction.
	And you see this in the Armas.
	This is the Generation X classical liberal frame, where he's not for, he's not a nativist, but he's not for anti-nativism.
	And so it's like, right, I mean, don't be wrong, that's better than the alternative, which is just raw anti-nativism.
	But it still means that the homeopathic woke can percolate through the civilization unchallenged because you don't have a framework with which to challenge it.
	You need a normative argument in favor of the native people of the country, in favor of the family, in favor of straight people, because you want straight people to produce children.
	Population collapse is a real thing that we're currently going through.
	These things matter.
	So, we need an affirmative position on them to say, no, we should do this.
	We should support the native tax-paying voting population of a country.
	We should have families.
	We should gear our civilization around the rearing and healthy, well-adjusted children.
	We should protect our borders.
	We should make sure that the government is representative, actually representative of the people.
	We should make sure that foreign corporations and just foreign businessmen, whoever, can't just buy up huge tracts of land in our country.
	We should make sure that the country is designed to serve the people who make up the country and not someone else.
	These are all things that are outside of the woke and the classically liberal paradigm.
	It doesn't have solutions for this.
	It doesn't have the ability to create an affirmative doctrine for this because classical liberalism is an entirely negative doctrine.
	I don't want to be interfered with by the state.
	I don't want to have excessive social pressure put on me.
	I don't want this.
	I don't want that.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	And it's like, okay, that's great.
	But there is an order that needs to be brought about that is necessary for the healthy prospering of our countries.
	We need to think about this.
	This takes us outside of liberal politics, and it doesn't mean becoming a white identitarian.
	It doesn't mean becoming X, Y, or Z.
	It doesn't mean we have to be any of the things from the previous paradigm because all of those things are a reaction to that paradigm.
	We need, like I said in the previous video, everything we think is wrong.
	We need to completely rethink what it is to be a human being and where it is we are now and where it is we want to be.
	I'm not going to give a complete thesis here, but I'm not suggesting we need to just become white nationalists or something like that.
	That is not what I'm saying.
	It's a lot more complicated.
	The sort of you know, the two-ide paradigm.
	It's like, oh, we're either super woke or we're Hitler.
	That's obviously no.
	That's an obvious no.
	I disagree with all of those things.
	There is a far more nuanced and detailed conversation to be had.
	And so in June, Eric Kaufman had written an article, which I think was in the Times originally, but here it is in the Manhattan Institute.
	No, we haven't reached peak woke.
	It's going mainstream.
	And what he's saying here is exactly what I'm saying.
	And I think he's completely correct here.
	He says some observers view woke as a passing fad.
	They point to American tech firms pruning the diversity and inclusion budgets, to the caste reviews, indictment of transgender affirming surgery and to declining media mentions of woke phrases such as white privilege and say well, we've passed this.
	But that's not true and I haven't got a subscription to the Times, but let's see if it's no.
	No link to it, but I've read this previously and he he's basically arguing that the homeopathic effect of woke is going to be with us for generations onwards.
	This is just going to be what the West is going to be like now, unless we have a conscious and affirmative attempt to argue against the moral cause that Woke champions.
	That's the most important thing.
	We need to be able to say no morally.
	It's wrong to do what you're doing because okay, in the immediate you may have, and based on consent-based morality oh, that person chooses to believe that they are living their life as a boy when they're a girl or vice versa.
	But there is a a greater moral standard that is objective and, above them, based in nature, based on God, based in whatever you want.
	That suggests that actually agreeing to this in the immediate time, in the immediate period of time, is bad in the long run.
	And so it raises itself up as a greater standard so we can say, no, I know that's what you want, but there's there's.
	There's a problem that we can solve in other ways.
	Actually changing the nature of your body through surgery, for example, is not the answer there.
	Right, there are other answers that we can come to.
	Um and so, like I said, there are a lot of people who are saying, Well, the based Zuma men are going to save us.
	Like, okay, maybe, but they tend to vote a lot less than the Zuma women, actually.
	And men generally vote less than women, which is not good, which is why the world is going in the direction it's going, by the way.
	Men, if you're a man and you're in America, you've got to go and vote.
	In Britain, it may be a different thing because, of course, what are our options?
	But you absolutely have to go and vote for Donald Trump if you want to see anything positive happen, right?
	And so, this is the anonymous Zuma who writes for Matt Goodwin.
	And in this, he just goes through a lot of data that suggests there are large numbers of Zuma men who are voting for Donald Trump, which is great, right?
	So, according to research at Harvard, men under 30 have shifted by 14 points towards the Republicans.
	As a recent Times poll puts Trump on 58% among young men to Kamala Harris's 37%, suggesting Trump will do better with them than he did four years ago when he won 41%.
	Okay, great start.
	But 42% of young men, despite being told by the Democrats, we hate you when we want you to die.
	We hate everything about you.
	You are an oppressive, evil, patriarchal person.
	You are the historic force that has kept women, minorities, gays, whoever's down.
	Who is the perennial villain of history?
	And still, 42% of them are like, Yeah, I think I'm going to vote Democrat.
	Yeah, I do kind of agree with them.
	Yeah, I mean, like, what the fuck are we looking at here?
	Sorry, how is this possible that you can have a faction whose entire raison d'être is we hate white men and 42% of white men in America, like, yeah, no, I think I agree with them.
	Mad.
	It's absolutely mad.
	What are we dealing with?
	Like, like, to be like, well, yeah, again, like, if you had a party that was like, we're the we, we hate women party, right?
	We're just against women in every way.
	Everything about women, we're against.
	I wouldn't expect 42% of women to vote for that.
	I just would be like, no, obviously, one or two percent of women, the Pearl Davies of the world, are going to vote for that.
	You know, like very few women are going to vote for that because why would they?
	It's not in their interests.
	And yet, here we are.
	So it's just, I don't know.
	I mean, you know, don't get me wrong.
	I'm very glad that 58% of young men are going to vote for Donald Trump.
	That's a great start.
	Make sure you go and vote.
	You are on the cusp of having the good ending when it comes to this election.
	You're also on the cusp of having the bad ending.
	So be warned, be aware, go out and vote.
	Join us on the 5th, by the way, on Rumble, where we're going to be doing an all-night live stream with loads of loads of guests.
	It's going to be really, really good.
	And good God, Trump had better fucking win, or I'm going to have a Jenk Uga Young Turks 2016 meltdown live on air.
	And I don't want to have it.
	I don't want to have it.
	Right?
	I mean, we can fake it afterwards.
	If you just want to see me having a meltdown, but good God, just go out and fucking vote.
	Anyway, young women in America, of course, far more socially liberal than the young male counterparts, but the young male counterparts themselves are still very socially liberal.
	It's just relatively speaking, they are not as liberal.
	It's like, okay, but we're woke, just not that woke, is what essentially is being said.
	And it's like, okay, I don't know, man.
	Like, there's something about this that just feels a bit like a cope, right?
	It feels a bit like, yeah, well, no, we're magga extremists.
	It's like, okay.
	Are you though?
	You know, I don't know.
	I, I, I don't know.
	Because the thing is, you get things like this, like global study.
	Oh, well, young men are turning right wing.
	Not by these graphs.
	In Korea, South Korea, yes, you have a swing towards young men being right-wing, but not in the US.
	At best, this is about to break even, right?
	In Germany, very slightly.
	In Britain, they're not even right-wing.
	They're still massively left-wing.
	Like, in Britain, young men are full-on woke.
	It's just young women are insanely more woke.
	And it's like, oh, great.
	Just brilliant.
	Right?
	So that, I mean, all of these should be literally 40 or 50% down to be like, no, young men are just right-wing, and we're going to bring back, we are pro-patriarchy, right?
	We want men being the heads of the households, being the breadwinners, while women are the stay-at-home mothers to raise children while we go out and make the money.
	That's what a right-wing man, a young man, would look like.
	That's not what these graphs are showing us.
	Again, I feel that the homeopathic effect of wokeness is actually just the it's.
	It's very much everywhere and it's very much not as good as we think right, I?
	And I think becoming complacent about these things is not good, I mean it is.
	It is good that there is at least some movement in this direction, but we have a lot further to go before we get any kind of based right-wing future.
	Okay where, where people actually are prosperous, where people actually get to be happy and healthy and reach eudaimonia, as Aristotle would put it.
	You know there's there's a long way to go and things are looking really bad in the near term, especially in Britain, which I'll get to in a minute.
	But anyway they, they go through and explain why they think so.
	And then oh, the dangers of right-wing politics, oh god yeah well, you know, I guess anyway.
	So in Britain, let's move to Britain now, because we've been talking about America a lot.
	In Britain we're totally lost as, as you remember from this like, young men in Britain are just insanely left-wing, insanely left-wing, and so everyone's like Nigel Farage made a big deal of this or there's something happening out there folks, there's something happening among the youth.
	Well, if there is, why didn't it show up at the election?
	Why was Reform's voting base boomers?
	Um, where are the base right-wing youth in Britain?
	Why is it that when polled uh, conservatives were what?
	10 7 8, something like that and Reform are basically exactly the same, like when we were campaigning for UKIP.
	We got polls back and I was I was in Gibraltar with Callum at the time and uh, he was like well, we've done our job.
	And I was like what do you mean?
	He sent me this poll where you were polling at 14, between 18 to 25, as in young people who've been watching my podcast, watching my videos, and be like yeah, i'm gonna vote for you, Kip.
	So 14, that's pretty good, you know, that's, that's very good.
	Actually, it's better than Reform, than conservatives doing here, isn't it?
	You know, maybe?
	I mean maybe, isn't that?
	It's just a perennial base that's been split between them, but we were doing quite well there.
	Where is This youth quake?
	Where is it?
	Again, it's mostly 65 and older or 51 to 64.
	That's older than me.
	I'm 45, right?
	So, you know, my, there's no base demographic here, is there?
	There's just no base demographic in Britain, folks.
	I just don't know why.
	I don't know where they are.
	There's no reform youth quake.
	It's just not happening.
	Britain's screwed.
	We've got no right-wing alternatives.
	Nigel Farage is not a right-wing alternative.
	Nigel Farage is at best the kind of Elon Musk 90s classical liberal, which don't get me wrong, as I said, would be a good start.
	And I would be happy to have that existing because at least those people don't want to attack me for being a dad, for being a husband, for being a business owner, right?
	Those people aren't attacking me for being the thing that I am.
	And not just say on being a straight white man, right?
	There are lots of aspects that I'm not being attacked.
	But if you look at what's happening in British politics now, you can see the total capture, the total unremitting capture of both parties, and honestly, in part by Nigel Farage's party as well, by wokeism, right?
	The Conservative Party have just elected a Nigerian immigrant to be their party leader.
	Now, people might say, well, why does that matter?
	Well, there are lots of reasons why that matters, actually.
	Questions of representation, questions of interest that I'm sure we'll cover on the podcast next week, actually.
	So I won't go into too much depth.
	But the important part is to listen to the way that they justify it to themselves, to watch the responses of the people around them.
	And isn't it great that we're the first great party, the first party, to have a black leader of the party.
	Another glass ceiling shattered.
	But I welcome Kemmy to the stage.
	Hear the whooping, hear the cheering for another glass ceiling shattered.
	Who invented that terminology?
	Who invented the glass ceiling that needs to be shattered by women, preferably women of colour?
	Of course, it's the radical left.
	It is the intersectionals, the Marxists, the LGBT types, the crazed, man-hating feminists who think that all of Western civilization was an oppressive patriarchy.
	And you have the conservatives whooping and fucking cheering over being the party, the first party to break the fucking...
	I just can't take it.
	I swear to God, I'm so angry about this.
	And I don't care about Kemmy Bainock.
	This is not about Kemmy Bainock.
	This is about the fact that they are so irredeemably woke and they fucking don't understand it.
	They don't understand it.
	And they don't understand why it's wrong for them to do this.
	They're completely fine.
	I mean, look at James Cleverly, right?
	His first, first fucking tweet about this is to attack the Labour Party for being too white and male.
	I mean, I'm just so angry.
	I'm just so fucking angry.
	My kids have to watch out.
	We are just, and again, it's not about Kenny Badenock herself, right?
	It's about the fact that the Conservatives are quite happy to be like, yeah, we're the Conservative Party of Britain.
	That's why we're going to put an immigrant in charge, right?
	A first-generation immigrant.
	Okay, crazy.
	Absolutely crazy.
	But whatever.
	But then to just adopt all of Labour's framing, that they were object.
	Don't attack us for being straight white men.
	This pale, male and stale was.
	David Cameron wrote an article about this in 2023 and 2010, 2011.
	He was like yeah, we were pale, male and stale and I I went out to change that party and created all women and minority shortlists, turning the party into a woke, Blurrite Party.
	And James Cleverly just doesn't have a thought in his fucking head, right?
	No, Labor don't have enough browns.
	That's James Cleverly's attack on the Labor Party.
	It's like what the and the thing is.
	He follows this up with quote, Labor's consistent obsession with identity politics doesn't actually translate into action.
	The conservatives recruit and reward on merit and the result is plain to see.
	And then he follows up with a tweet from Jeremy Corbyn with, only Labor can be trusted to unlock the talent of black, Asian and minority ethnic people.
	It's like just Labor claimed to be woke, but we, the conservatives, are the real woke party, as shown by the woke things we've done, whereas the Labor Party only pay lip service to woke is James Cleverly's opinion.
	I am just just gonna.
	I right, as I said, i've got a link in the description to a video game channel, right where I just play video games.
	Come and join me over there, because i'm i'm just.
	I don't have to do anything political, I don't have to look at how unbelievably bad the political scene is in Britain and and how shit it is everywhere.
	Like it is just crazy crazy, how screwed we are.
	I didn't mean to get angry either i'm so.
	I'm annoyed at myself for getting angry.
	I shouldn't have got angry.
	But you can see why right, you can see why.
	I'm just like, okay, so we've got foreigners now ruling the conservative party.
	The Indian prime minister, who was unelected, has passed it down to an immigrant who I guess the conservative membership have elected.
	Bravo, and i'm just like, okay, so okay, we're just a left-wing country that's devoted to the success of foreign peoples.
	Okay interesting, just mad, absolutely mad.
	This, this country, is good it's, and the thing is, this country is going so far down the fucking tubes.
	You know like thing.
	Things are going so badly and it's like, okay, and this is what we're doing.
	Left-wing, woke politics is what we're doing.
	Is it just just mental?
	It's just mental, so anyway, this i'll, i'll get to the super chats now.
	It's just like, anyway Alan, thank you for those 20 pounds and the sticker.
	I don't victory.
	Ah well, the victory is gonna be a long way off yet, i'm afraid um Cowboy Curtis says, Sogon, please do a charcoal lead uh.
	In other words, join polite society at the barbecue or prepare to eat lead shirt.
	Uh, since Louis never ended up making one.
	Um I, I don't think i'm making a prepare to eat lead shirt.
	I'm afraid, um again, i'm a very good boy, don't approve of uh anything that's non-democratic so um, I won't be doing that.
	I'm afraid uh Stormcutter says our biggest issue is that people won't fight hard enough against the, THE woke mob.
	Too many people will struggle off with that struggle.
	That's why we're here.
	Yeah, I mean, they'll just accept that this is a part of their life now, right?
	Oh, yeah, the woke crusaders conquered everything, and now everything's work.
	And they just accept it.
	Convincing Reality says, Boeing is a perfect example of a successful company with a hard-earned reputation run by engineers being taken over and decimated by financiers.
	Yeah, and there are lots and lots of companies like that as well.
	But the, I mean, at least in the case of Boeing and various other practical companies that have a real effect on people's lives, it's too dangerous, right?
	They have to get the corrupt people who are not experts in.
	They're still going to try and hire based on skin color or sex or whatever.
	But they've accepted, no, we have to have a certain level of expertise.
	We can't just throw money at Browns and then expect everything to work out.
	No, people might die, right?
	So you have to do this.
	Sam says, defeces, crybaby BS.
	It's like, no, I think that this is all.
	Again, I'm well in favor of us winning.
	I'm just, you have to be clear what the battlefield looks like.
	You have to know what the enemy have, what you have, and what you need to take in order to win.
	And without being clear-eyed and honest about the state of play, you can't win.
	You will run into unexpected hurdles that will trip you up and you will lose.
	If you want to win, you have to be cognizant of how things actually are.
	And unfortunately, I think this is how things actually are.
	But, I mean, there is an upside to this, right?
	I think there are enough Zuma-based males and women, because there are base Zoom women as well.
	There are enough base Zoomers to win, right?
	There is, that is, it's not that it's not the majority of them.
	It's not going to be easy.
	But if they are prepared to do the long hours, to put in the hard work, to go through the institutions, slowly level themselves up until they're in charge, it is possible for us to win.
	We just need to be clear that these people are a minority and they need to be smart.
	Because again, I'm too old to be doing the things that they're going to have to do.
	All I can do is hopefully map out what could be a potential roadmap for how it can be done.
	Joe says, I think it's interesting how the right used to be the ones for censorship and war generally in the early 2000s.
	And it used to be the fundamental position for woke people that Republicans are evil.
	Well, yeah, but you'll notice that the mono party and the uni party has folded into just the Democrats at this point, right?
	Dick Cheney and various other Alistair Campbell supporting all the all the all the neoliban warmongers from the early 2000s.
	They're all just the Democrats, right?
	Trump has taken over the Republicans and they are a genuine opposition to this paradigm.
	And that's great.
	We don't have that here.
	We don't have that in Britain.
	So what are we going to do?
	He follows up with, this was 20 years ago, and now the left are the tyrannical ones promoting war on censorship.
	They cannot see it.
	The period was somehow significant for people developing this mentality, maybe 9-11.
	It's a big question and conversation to be had on that.
	But the fact that the Democrats have been able to fold in 2000s Republicans, whereas Trump has managed to expel them from the Republican Party, is a real and tangible victory for the right-wing based forces.
	So that is good.
	Again, we just don't have anything like this.
	And what's interesting, right?
	The Conservative Party have changed the way that they remove prime ministers now to make it more difficult to remove Kemi Beitnock.
	It's like, oh, really?
	You are just.
	All right, whatever.
	Mental.
	Shuby says, the Crusades failed, the work will fall.
	Well, yeah, but the jihad's worked, right?
	Like, there's a reason that a quarter of the world is Muslim at this point.
	So not, you know, not every crusade fails, just to be clear.
	But they do reach a sort of natural stopping point.
	And that's what the initial spike of cancel culture was about.
	They've reached that.
	Caleb says, The censors denied my real chat.
	Sad noise as well.
	Probably for the best.
	Again, we're good boys.
	We're living in the woke tyranny.
	So be sensible, please.
	Many corporations that are getting rid of DEI departments are doing a restructuring known as Bridge.
	Yes, exactly.
	I forgot to mention that, but that's the point.
	The DEI departments are filled with people who are just not able to do what they want them to do.
	Not they're morally wrong, not that they're going to stop trying to do this thing.
	They just realize that that doesn't work because there was too much of a flood of like, this is new territory.
	Just get, you know, it's like a gold rush for DEI.
	And it's brought in a bunch of people who are just no good.
	It's like, okay, well, but we want the actual thing that we were promised.
	We just didn't get it.
	It's like, okay, well, then they're going to restructure, as you say, and it's been called Bridge.
	We'll do a thing about that at some point to fully, you know, make it make everyone aware, basically.
	Thank you, Michael and Rust of us, for your donations.
	Samuel says, we just want to play computer games.
	There's ways to push back against woke.
	The problem is that it's a religion and a weak one at that, which leaves ground open from our aggressive religion.
	Yes, it is.
	And it's, we just need to have a kind of sincere conviction of our own that is able to identify the icons of the enemy and reject them.
	So there we go.
	But one of the primary things is just don't give them your money.
	If you've gotten like, it drives me crazy that I love Yorkshire gold tea.
	It drives me crazy.
	Because they are an abashedly woke and came out Black Lives Matter posting all through the summer of Floyd when people were getting killed and cities were getting burned down.
	They were like, yeah, we love Black Lives Matter.
	Here's some money for Kim.
	Not Kimberly Granshaw.
	What's her name?
	I can't remember the name of the woman.
	Three women they're doing now.
	But, you know, we want to buy them large mansions as well.
	And so they did.
	And so now I'm drinking their tea.
	And it pisses me off.
	Basically, if there's a base tea company out there, get in touch.
	I want to drink your tea.
	I'm sick of funding people who hate me.
	I'm sick of it.
	We have to be clear about this.
	Third man says, Have you seen any of Richard the Force's videos?
	No.
	The current mood says, Imagine a thousand years of woke.
	You don't have to imagine it.
	It's going to look exactly like what we're living through now.
	Tyler says, Do you remember me recommending Abolition of Man before you'd read it?
	Your Sargon Live channel's German Influence Along View video at 109.
	Honestly, not you individually, but you definitely will have contributed to a sort of chorus of people who are like, you know, Carl, Sargon, you are coming around to the kind of C.S. Lewis perspective on everything.
	And I have to say, it's a very rich and deep perspective.
	And so that was, it was just the chorus of people saying, you really should start looking into that.
	I was like, okay, fine, I will.
	And the Abolition of Man is superb.
	I really enjoyed it.
	And I called upon it in that video the other day.
	There's a lot in there that's really worthwhile.
	As is Dead Chicken for $50, thanks, man.
	Says, Ben owing you this for all the good perspectives.
	Yourself, Mauler, and Drinker and others helped me realize how far off my ideals were quite some time ago and how much this stuff really brainwashes you from the mainstream.
	Well, I'm so glad to have been of some assistance, man.
	And Mauler, Drinker, and the entire gang, like there's a whole ecosphere of non- or anti- or right-wing commentators who's just generally good.
	Like, I've just got absolutely no.
	Very rarely will you see me ever criticizing any of these people because I mean, you know, okay, they're not anti-woke enough in exactly the way I like.
	Okay, so as long as they're not woke, I don't care.
	You know, the vanity of small differences is something that people get really hung up upon.
	And I'm like, okay, I just don't care.
	We're surrounded by enemies.
	I'm not going to start picking a fight with people with whom I generally agree on things.
	So it's just no point.
	Infinite Entertainment says Lotus Caesars needs to do a review of Andor and his communist propaganda, the most woke wars.
	I haven't seen it.
	Although I did continue watching The Rings of Power just so I could be able to watch the breakdowns of it and understand the breakdowns.
	Because I have to admit, I enjoyed people deconstructing the Rings of Power.
	Rings of Power itself was terrible.
	And watching, I watched, you know, all of the sort of anti-woke content creators, the movie guys.
	I watched all of their breakdowns of it and I was really enjoying them.
	So there is one upside to the woke stuff, I guess.
	But yeah, I haven't seen it.
	But I'm sure there are loads of people already doing a good job on that.
	So I don't, because the problem we have is just bandwidth.
	You know, there's only so many things that we can do.
	And if loads of people have already got something nailed down, there's no need for us to do it.
	It's better for us to do something that most people aren't doing.
	You know, where we're trying to get to the very roots and underneath the hood of all of this.
	So, you know, but I'm sure there are loads of people who have done a good job on Andor.
	Easy says, I've seen enough stock charts to recognize a retracement.
	It will test its lower limits.
	If it cannot be pushed below these supports, it will be back.
	Yes.
	This is just it consolidating territory.
	It's conquered a bunch, and now it just needs to put down its roots and settle in.
	The Angry Bootneck says, if Trump exceeds all expectations and smashes Kamala Sutra by about 8 million votes, we pass peak woke.
	Otherwise, they'll double down as usual.
	Why change the habit of lifetime?
	Well, fingers crossed.
	And it is possible that we get a future where Trump puts the right people in place to start just rooting this out and to morally attack it.
	Morally attack woke for denigrating people because of what they are rather than because of something they've done.
	It's possible that that can happen.
	We are in a difficult place at the moment, though.
	And I mean, in Britain, we're a lost cause.
	The people of Britain just are beaten down.
	But the Americans still have Vim, right?
	They still have it in them to overcome this.
	And I'm very hopeful for America.
	It's looking good.
	Like, don't be demoralized, my American friends.
	Go out and fucking vote.
	You are voting like your republic depends on it because it genuinely does, right?
	Elon Musk is not overreguating it when he says, look, this is the last election if we don't win this.
	It basically is.
	You know, it'll always be, you'll get the same as we've got here.
	Oh, you got you can elect woke in red or blue.
	Which one would you like?
	Okay, great.
	You know, at least in America, you have a genuine alternative.
	I tell you what, Vance did so well on Joe Rogan the other day.
	Like, Vance did so, so well.
	And Trump, I was skeptical at first because I was like, look, you know, I appreciate the neckbeard representation, but is he going to be good with the average American?
	You know, I personally feel well represented by Vance, but and I personally like him a lot.
	But that doesn't mean that he would be good overall.
	But he's had some really good wins recently.
	His debate with Waltz was just superb.
	Absolutely superb.
	And his appearance on Rogan was just fantastic.
	Just the allegations of weird, just gone.
	He's not weird.
	He's completely normal.
	He's just like me.
	He's a totally normal guy.
	He's a dad and he's worried about the future and he's conservative.
	Superb.
	What I really like about this is that this gives us a clear successor to Trump, right?
	A clear successor.
	So because Trump, he's only got another four years.
	And, you know, even if he could do more, he is getting on a little bit.
	Vance is 40, so he's got plenty of time and he's really good.
	Clear successor.
	Someone who will get the job done.
	Excellent stuff.
	Very happy.
	Very happy.
	Squid Coyote says that beard is on point.
	Been following you for years.
	Hope to shit purse your next Total War stream.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I do gaming streams quite regularly on my pondering channel, which is in the link to the description.
	My beard, it's pretty fucking white now.
	Like, my dad came up today, and I can't help but notice that my beard is only slightly less white than his, and he's 66, something like that.
	So it's just like, Jesus.
	Do guy says, yesterday I voted for Trump in a blue state.
	I'm supporting you for bringing truthful discussion to the forefront.
	Well, thank you very much.
	And it's important if you are especially in a blue state to vote, but obviously in the red states too.
	Don't take anything for granted, especially that you were in a blue state, right?
	There's nothing stopping people in these other states from just being like, no, I've just had enough.
	And if millions of people, hundreds of thousands of people in these states just go, no, I'm just going to vote the other way, then it can flip.
	These things can always change.
	So don't get demoralized.
	Just make sure you do what you want to see done.
	And eventually, I think you will, in America, you will win.
	I think we're screwed.
	Bob says, homeopathic woke is like microplastics everywhere.
	Yeah, it's very much like the sort of woke is like microplastics.
	So, you know, your balls are filled with woke at this point.
	It's everywhere.
	It's literally everywhere you go.
	Even in like places like Swindon.
	I'll go past something and have like an LGBT sticker on something totally irrelevant.
	It's like, oh, great.
	It's just everywhere.
	It's just normal.
	Seed fan says, stop trying to blame millennials for everything.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	I'm probably being mean to the millennials on that.
	They're the victim generation because of Gen X lives and malignant self-preservation.
	Well, the thing is, the Gen Xers weren't really in charge when the Millennials were coming up.
	That's the interesting thing.
	It was still mostly boomers.
	And even now, boomers still have a huge amount of institutional power.
	They just won't let go.
	But in some ways, it is Gen Xers, I suppose.
	I think Kimberly Crenshaw is actually a Gen Xer.
	So in some ways.
	But you are right.
	I shouldn't just be like, oh, Millie's bad.
	It's just they are really annoying.
	They're really annoying.
	Me So Trash says, I explain it as a ChaiCom-style integration into corporations by a priest-like class of middle managers who are grifters and or true believers.
	I think if the Dems lose, they will push farther left.
	Yeah, no, that's a good frame because that's basically what it is.
	And you've had the initial sort of rush of grifters, but you will get the true believers worming their way in.
	And just, again, the homeopathic woke will just imbue itself, infuse into everything.
	But it's very, very much like the sort of honestly, like fascism, basically.
	Neutrino says, overall, agreeing aspects of woke are being consolidated in media right now.
	Without confronting first principles, homeopathic leftism sets like concrete.
	Precisely.
	That's precisely correct.
	Brian says, appreciate the work you're doing.
	The only way you can reverse the trend is to challenge the fundamentals of woke altruism.
	Well, altruism is normal.
	And I don't think saying I'm against altruism is good, a winning strategy.
	But you do have to challenge the fundamental principles of the woke.
	But that's why they have a hook in the culture.
	It hijacks the altruistic basis of our culture.
	Yeah, the attempt they do to try and say, oh, it's just being nice.
	No, it's not.
	It's being ideological.
	It's being rationalistic.
	Not your buddy guy says Trump should lose.
	Should Trump lose, I worry, and for good reason, the West will finally transition to a new age of tyranny.
	It will become a technocratic medieval hierarchy, which will require complete submission or removal of free thinkers.
	Yeah.
	And just to be clear, right?
	This is the norm throughout history.
	It's not normal that we have free societies in which we don't go to jail for speaking against the state, right?
	I mean, think of all of the liberal thinkers and the canon, the liberal canon.
	Almost all of them had to flee the countries of origin at some point.
	I mean, Marx fled to London.
	Rousseau fled to London.
	John Locke fled to the Netherlands.
	I'm pretty sure Hobbes had to flee somewhere as well.
	Probably the Netherlands.
	Like, it's normal to have to flee if you want to criticise the government.
	We're looking at essentially what that's going to be.
	I mean, Tommy's in jail right now for breaching a court order, but possibly not entirely just for that.
	So it's becoming the new normal.
	The Emperor's Champion said, the Air Force guy that set himself on fire was a Zuma.
	I don't know any of Leonardo's or done that.
	That's true.
	I can't even remember his name now.
	I think there was another one who did it as well, who was a bit older, actually.
	But no, I'm not saying, yeah, you're right.
	I shouldn't rag on millennials so much.
	I shouldn't be so mean about it.
	Beer Bear Beard says, it's kind of funny that I've been hearing from a VTuber for the last or so from Carl's mouth.
	Well, again, there's something to be said for the convergence theory of truth.
	If a lot of people are seeing it, then maybe there's something about it.
	Neutrino says we need to see a specific racial breakdown with the 42%.
	That would be useful.
	I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says weak men agree.
	Yeah.
	Did you catch MSN giving spoilers?
	Ask Tobin.
	Yes, I did.
	I retweeted it.
	Just being like, hmm, hmm, that's really interesting.
	How Kamala won like 52 and Trump won 48.
	Hmm.
	How did you know?
	How is it you already have the answer?
	Mr. H reviews in the chat.
	Kemi has sealed the Tories' fate, though.
	I think we can thank the Emperor for that at least.
	Well, you know what?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	There might be a lot of boomers who think that, oh, yeah, this is it.
	We can finally beat the left using Kemi.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sold.
	I've heard a lot of people saying that, but I'm not sold that that's the case.
	So again, don't get complacent, I would say.
	Thank you, Preston.
	I appreciate everything.
	I appreciate you guys being here and joining me for all of this, obviously.
	And, you know, I'm glad that we can have clear-eyed conversations about this.
	Because I know a lot of the time, it would be easier, right?
	It would just be easier for me to be like, oh, yeah, work's screwed.
	Look at this, guys.
	Trump's going to win.
	Everything's going to be great.
	Non-stop winning.
	Just handing out dopamine would be easy, right?
	It's a really easy thing to do.
	But actually, I think a clear-eyed and constructive look and critical look at where we actually are and what we actually know is more helpful if we actually want to win.
	So, and again, I'm not trying to blackpill, I'm not trying to demoralize, right?
	I mean, I've got four kids, I have nowhere to go, right?
	I don't want to do anything else.
	I mean, okay, I do want to do other things, but I have to do this.
	I'm in this until the end of it, right?
	So there's no question about that.
	But we have to be realistic and honest about what's going on.
	Neutrino says, you need to take into account the young demographics of South Korea versus UK, US, and Germany.
	Due to migration, these polls skew.
	Right, that's interesting.
	I don't know that much about the demographic nature of the situation in South Korea.
	So it may well be that.
	But like I said, in the West, they're still not most, young men are still not mostly right-wing.
	Young men are still, or if they are, it's on the cusp.
	We need to pump those numbers up.
	We need to pump those numbers up.
	Critic says, bring back This Week in Stupid and you can have my wife.
	I've got a wife.
	I don't need another one.
	But I can't bring back This Week in Stupid.
	But go and watch the podcast, podcast and Lotus Eaters.
	It's a similar sort of format, but better actually.
	Magnum says, that L1770 chat was my way of bypassing YouTube.
	Not allowing me to insult Lizzo.
	Be careful.
	Lucifer says, Good morning.
	I say good morning back.
	Well, it's good afternoon here, but it is, yeah, I'm having a nice afternoon.
	So having a good day and everything.
	Got up, spent some time with my daughter.
	My two youngest had gone down to my mum and dad's for the week because it's half-term.
	And my dad brought them back just a minute ago.
	And so we've had quite a lot of time with my youngest daughter on her own.
	And isn't it just had a really nice morning with her?
	And then we did tip runs to take some rubbish and clear out the sheds and stuff like that.
	It's been quite a nice day so far.
	So I hope you're having a good day too.
	Matthew says, by destroying the family, the left have basically locked in their support in the same way that importing immigrants has.
	Having a family is what makes people conservative, not merely just growing old.
	That's exactly right.
	And that was a part that I left out from the information we were going through.
	The people who aren't millennials, who are now liberals, are actually not growing more conservative.
	Because in previous eras, of course, you know, people were fairly liberal, but they'd get more conservative over time because most people were married.
	Most people had kids.
	Well, if most people aren't getting married, or at least a larger percentage aren't getting married, well, why would they get more conservative?
	So you are right.
	It's not growing old.
	It just coincides with growing old.
	But if they don't start families, they don't become more conservative.
	Jonathan says they already stomped out the right-wing youth movement.
	It was generation identity against the anti-European woke mobs.
	Maybe I don't really know much about generation identity or anything like that.
	But there are definitely needs.
	There's a definite need to have some kind of right-wing youth movement.
	But, yeah, what are you going to do?
	Sorry, I've just refreshed it.
	I'm just finding where I was.
	Would a Trump win affect UK politicians positively?
	No.
	I think it affects them negatively.
	I think they become even more woke in response to Donald Trump.
	Because Trump did say he was going to basically wage war against Kirstama.
	I was just like, yes, let's go, let's go.
	But this is just going to make them worse.
	It's going to make them worse and more woke.
	So yeah.
	Why did Europe die first?
	Is it the French?
	World War II.
	Basically, World War II was the.
	So Europe is a mostly traditional continent where we had tribal politics that underpinned everything.
	And this found itself pincered between the classical liberal revolution in the United States and the communist revolution in Russia.
	And Europe was just taken over by this pince movement that divided it up and has kept it supine ever since.
	And I don't know if it can ever come back.
	So I think it's just time, basically.
	I mean, Europe gave birth to these ideologies and they took over what is essentially sort of new worlds.
	And these came back to devour the old.
	President Lemon says they think they live in the Startup Utopia, but Captain Kirk would cringe at their backwards behavior.
	Yeah, but the thing is, again, Kirk is a relic of a past time on the journey towards the liberal utopia.
	So actually, Kirk might cringe, but then you'll get someone more liberal in the future.
	We'll look back and go, oh, he's so problematic.
	When they have an argument, if they were to have an argument, Kirk would lose it on liberal grounds.
	Neutrino says, the entire world implicitly accepts leftist framing.
	Normally, right-wing idea groups organize around this.
	Rural, urban, man, woman, historical analysis, etc.
	End up taking implicitly leftist frames a big problem.
	Yeah, this is why I was saying everything we think is wrong.
	Everything.
	The way that we approach anything, and it's such a larger problem that I can go into here, but it's all just we've got a long, long journey ahead of us.
	But thankfully, you know, I'm still relatively young.
	I'm 45, so I've got plenty of time.
	You know, 20 years would be more than nothing.
	I think.
	Oils Goon says, My wife is done last week.
	She told me she's voting for Trump.
	Excellent.
	That is good.
	Steve says, Carl, am I right to assert them when the work infiltrate media, when they win, using it for propaganda, and when it begins to collapse, they win by taking down another pillar of Western civilization?
	Broadly so.
	Yeah.
	What's interesting is what's happening to the New York Times at the moment, because Jeff Bezos has come out as a base billionaire and he's refusing to endorse candidate from the New York Times.
	And 200,000 people unsubscribe from it.
	So who knows what happens there?
	I mean, obviously, Bezos didn't buy the New York Times to make money.
	But the question is, I mean, how long are we going to prop it up for?
	Can he do it forever?
	Stephen says, how do you live with people who will use their rights to strip you of yours?
	I haven't been able to answer that yet.
	I don't know.
	I haven't got an answer to that offhand either.
	Magnum says, China funds all this DI and it's illegal in China.
	Yeah.
	Well, Russia probably does as well.
	Mo says, the education systems are completely captured.
	We lost that battle.
	To win the war, Trump and Co. need to go total scorched earth on that.
	Nothing else matters in the long run.
	New generations must not be indoctrinated.
	Well, they have to just be right-wing.
	You have to be after right-wing education.
	Because if you go back 100 years, you look at the education system, it's very traditional.
	And this produces because education isn't really about information, it's about culture.
	It's about the trans this was T.S. Eliot's view in notes on the definition of culture.
	Education is something that people can do on their own, but to learn something is something people can do on their own.
	You can't get the teacher to read the books for you, things like that.
	But the culture that's transmitted is what's important when it comes to education.
	And so basically, we need to have right-wing teachers.
	Good luck finding enough.
	Maverick says, my child's school had mock elections.
	Reform got 68%.
	That's nice.
	Comrade Bagel Muffin says, when right-wing swings are back in Europe, what happens?
	Too soon to predict.
	I don't know.
	I don't want to.
	I mean, who knows?
	Who knows?
	Last time you soup-chatted me, which must have been five years ago or something, you said Hong Kong is effed, which was correct.
	However, one good thing about no woke crap going on.
	Small victory, Cope.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I mean, that's good, good, I guess.
	But you've got other problems.
	I don't think many in the UK realize how conservative Chinese commies are.
	Make babies love country respect laws.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the thing is, like, I wouldn't call China a communist country anymore.
	I don't think it is communist.
	It's kind of like quasi-fascist in the way it actually is.
	But it's not a communist country.
	Magnum says, I've already made a Carl Benjamin Vailguard character.
	He's going to punch everybody.
	Very angry character.
	I'm not an angry person.
	I was just angry with the conservatives for being so obviously a woke party and pretending wearing the skin suit of not being a woke party.
	God of Gravy says, watching the tide turn in the US as celebrities openly backing Trump gives me hope that we can do the same.
	Not just celebrities, business magnates.
	You know, big, influential, incredibly rich, powerful people are backing Trump.
	Trump is elite at this point.
	Backing Trump is in elite position, which is superb.
	And, you know, look at the quality of the people backing Kamala.
	Like, Cardi B and Jennifer Lopez.
	It's like, sorry, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, probably Mark Zuckerberg, let's be honest.
	And bloody various other billionaires are all like, no, we're Trump.
	It's like, let's do this.
	Let's get on, you know?
	Like, Ron Paul is like, yeah, I'll join Elon Musk in the Department of Government Efficiency.
	I'm like, oh, my God.
	The Americans are so on the cusp of the good future.
	Come on.
	Come on, lads.
	Randy says, don't give up hope.
	I'm 40 and I'll be working to help the younger generation the rest of my life.
	Just keep going forward day by day.
	Well, I haven't given up hope.
	It's just at the moment, things are bad.
	But we will win.
	We will win eventually.
	Dicepunk says, been here since the old days.
	Saw me through some dark times, Sargon.
	Bless you.
	Can't wait for Islander 2 to arrive.
	What I'll do next week I'll chase those up because there was a delay, but people have started getting them now.
	I've been retweeting people have finally got there.
	So sorry about the delay.
	But you will absolutely will get it.
	We will make sure that you get them.
	Lamine Go Click says, can you bring back this week in Stupid and why people hate feminism videos?
	Red Pillme since 2014?
	I can't, I'm afraid.
	But do go and join us over the podcast where we do many things much similar.
	Bob says, micro-wokeisms, like microplastics are everywhere, even inside you.
	That's the way things are.
	Ash Avshara says, please take time to look over bridge reporting by Kirsch.
	She was calling out the hiring of DI, the hiding of DI some time ago.
	Okay.
	I'm going to have to try and draw this to a close in a minute.
	Drew says, your work on ancient recitations is incredible.
	I hope you make more content there.
	Well, I do make content there, but the revealed preference is not for it.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, each one of those takes a long time to make as well.
	And so, like, you know, if there's like 4,000, 5,000 people watch it, it's like, okay, well, you know, it's a lot easier to make the video game videos.
	And honestly, it's more relaxing.
	Well, the same, that's not true.
	I really enjoyed doing the Battle of Molten and The Wanderer.
	The next issue of Islander is going to be banging.
	The God of Gravy says, if you haven't done it already, let's listen to a discussion about the morality arguments in the Jurassic Park novels in the first film.
	There's a lot of chew on there.
	Also, I recommend the books.
	I've read the books, my friend.
	I was a big fan.
	I got the original Jurassic Park book back in 1992 or whatever.
	As well as a bunch of stuff for the film as well.
	I was a huge fan.
	Noah says, hey, Carl, I'm heading to Trump Towns to get my MAGA hat today.
	Inspired by you getting yours there.
	I wanted to get my straight from the source too.
	Well, again, if you happen to be in New York, you know, I happen to be in New York.
	I was like, yeah, I'm doing it.
	I'm really glad I did as well.
	Really, really glad that I did.
	I won't respect that you're a conservative until you start reading the teachings of Plato.
	Dude, I have a degree in philosophy.
	I have, of course, read Plato.
	And I don't agree that Plato is the source of Western culture.
	I actually think that Plato is a problem.
	I don't agree with almost anything that Plato says.
	I'm very much with Aristotle on that, who kind of contradicts Plato almost every turn.
	aristotle is the man plato is just like honestly i i think you could root plato the origin of wokeism He says, dropping just a super controversial point and then just walking off from it.
	Steam Troll Mike says, hey, Carl, have you considered streaming with Arch and Dev again in the future?
	Do I know who Ghost Politics is?
	Yes and no.
	I don't know who Ghost Politics is.
	But of course, I'd stream with Archer Dev again.
	Ivory Leviathan says, The unholy alliance between Marxists and Isthmus is fascinating.
	Did you ever imagine the day we'd be seeing Jihadi sympathizing pro-Hamas marches in this country?
	Why is the average apolitical joe going along with this?
	Is it stupidity or cowardice?
	Well, most of it is just designed not to be involved, I think.
	And the thing is, the Islamo-leftist alliance has been going on for quite a long time.
	The leftists obviously are making a bed that they're going to get shafted in, which is really stupid.
	But for them, they just see enemy of the white Western male patriarchal hegemony.
	We will ally with them to overthrow it.
	And they have the fancy that they'll be the ones in charge at the end.
	When, of course, we know that's not how it's going to work out.
	It's going to look a lot more like Afghanistan when all of that happens.
	But they're stupid and short-sighted and are attacking us.
	And so they see an ally against us.
	Jordy says, to think 2014 was a decade ago.
	Time really does fly.
	Yeah, tell me about it, man.
	JJ says, there's rainbow cult stuff popping up in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings now.
	Yeah, I told you, it's the homeopathic wokeism, like the microplastic wokeism.
	It's in everyone's balls at this point.
	There's no getting away from it.
	Randy says, boomers are the birds of paradise.
	The bird of paradise have inverted survival instincts and produce phenotypes which makes them more vulnerable to predators.
	With paradise ending, real men will rise.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The Zoomers, thankfully, seem to be taking things seriously, which is good.
	One of the few good things that is coming out of this is that Zoomer men, there are frivolous Zuma men, but I also know a lot of Zuma men who are taking this very seriously.
	Who are like, well, hang on, this is the future.
	And we're going to have to figure it out.
	So, you know, at least there's that.
	All right, last refresh.
	Don't send any more, please.
	With woke being in bed and Islam being bed in and Islam growing rapidly in the UK, how will that ultimately pan out?
	Well, that's the point, isn't it?
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	The Last Russian says, Glad you're taking a nuanced and realistic perspective.
	Superchat seemed bugged for me, so I'm testing this as well as sending thanks.
	Well, it came through.
	Ian says, we are in, we're being taken into Yuri Besminel's crisis phase now.
	A narrow Trump win allows the left to control both the deep state and the opposition.
	Yeah, Trump has to have all three offices: the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.
	If he doesn't, then it's going to be difficult.
	But Noah Zombie says, I commend your podcast.
	Much of it revolves around chronic complaining and pontification, absent of a solution.
	Well, unfortunately, the solution is not evidently presenting itself.
	In the next couple of years, I expect I will become a member of a political party.
	But at the moment, there are lots of splinter right-wing parties, which they're not in themselves bad or anything like that.
	But there needs to be a way of uniting all of these together and saying, look, the differences between this are just irrelevant.
	We're nowhere near any kind of success.
	So we need some sort of umbrella organization we can all support until someone either comes out on top or we, as a coalition, manage to win something.
	So at the moment, yes, that's a fair critique.
	But in the future, I should at least have a suggestion of a party to join.
	But I haven't got one at the moment.
	So watch this space.
	Seed fan says, Am I ever going to get around to making that politics of Gundam video?
	I've never watched Gundam.
	Are you sure that's me?
	And Gabriel says, How's the phalanx doing?
	It's unstoppable.
	Again, go and follow the pondering to find out exactly what that means.
	But I'm going to edit a video.
	I've recorded the footage of it.
	I'm going to edit a video in a bit.
	Most incredible victories with this phalanx, I'm telling you.
	It's just incredible.
	And the last one will be Max, who says, a man on a bus sees another reading Plato.
	He asks if he considers himself an intellectual.
	Not reading, he replies.
	The man responds, that's because you read Plato.
	Yeah, I've seen that meme too.
	And it's brutal.
	Absolutely brutal.
	And the guy's like, what do I say to that?
	It's like, yeah, you don't.
	But no, again, there's a lot of good in Plato.
	And there will be many philosophers who are angry at me for saying that.
	But I don't like Plato.
	I like Aristotle.
	Anyway, thank you, folks, for joining me.
	Thank you for your very generous donations.
	I will make sure, either make another video or do another stream talking about things again next week.
	Join us on the 5th, Tuesday the 5th, at midnight UK time, or I think it's about 7 o'clock Eastern or like 4 o'clock California time.
	If on Rumble and those seaters for the election coverage, we've got loads and loads of guests.
	Loads of my American friends are going to be zooming in.
	It's going to be a packed night.
	It's going to be great.
	It's going to be long as well.
	But it should be really good.
	And hopefully, enough numbers will have come in so we can say, yep, Trump has won.
	And there aren't like too many weird delays that just goes, we've just got a delay.
	Oh, look, there's a broken water pipe.
	What a weird convenience.
	Do we need to call someone?
	No, we don't need to call him out for it.
	Don't worry.
	That's gone away now.
	Yeah, no, don't worry about that.
	Hopefully, nothing like that happens.
	And we get to ring in four good years for America, basically.
	So thanks for joining me, folks.

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