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March 7, 2021 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin

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	I believe this is live, but I'll, well, I'm told this is live, and I'll believe it when I see it.
	Excellent connection.
	Well, that's good news.
	There we go.
	Hey, guys, how's it going?
	It's been a hot minute, hasn't it?
	So why am I doing a live stream on a channel that YouTube has killed?
	Well, good question, isn't it?
	I was going to, I was going to, well, I tried to re-upload the politics of Starship Troopers after taking out the offending copyrighted parts.
	And this didn't work because it just clips another part of the video.
	I was like, oh, that's copyright now.
	God.
	I don't want to have to go through a rigmarole with it.
	So I've left the link to the BitChute version down in the description because I got loads of messages from people saying, hey, I got a notification.
	Because I just removed the video because you couldn't watch it anyway.
	Because they're blocking it in like, you know, like literally more than half the audience.
	So it's like, okay, well, whatever.
	Wrong mic.
	Well, that wouldn't be the first time, would it?
	But I don't believe you.
	Let me check.
	Okay, how's that?
	Is that any better?
	That should be better.
	So yeah, that would probably be going through the camera.
	That should be.
	Oh, I didn't even check.
	How are you doing, guys?
	It's been a long time since I've used this channel.
	Or since I've done a live stream, to be honest.
	Like, I do a few on a CAD daily every now and again, but most of the time it's all done in the office now.
	So, yeah.
	So not normally something I have to worry about.
	Man, it's nice to see the lockdowns ending, isn't it?
	My son goes back to school tomorrow.
	God, I'm excited about it.
	It doesn't change anything for my life, but I really think that it's been terrible, really terrible for kids to have been off school for so long.
	I think this stunted generation is going to be – there are going to be studies about this, I reckon.
	And the picture is coming through the mic.
	Yeah, I'm sure it is.
	Yeah, blowing dust off my channel.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so basically, like, loads of people got messaged with Starship Troopers notifications.
	I had to take the video down.
	I'm like, I'm really sorry.
	So I thought I'd just do something.
	And one thing that I've been very much enjoying is Hassan Pika.
	I have tried watching a few of his videos and they are the funniest things in the world.
	Not because Hassan is trying to be a comedian.
	Hassan, for some reason, has found himself in a position where he's kind of trying to angrily defend the Biden administration.
	It's like, no, no, no, look, all authority comes from Biden and his administration.
	If they say something, it makes it true.
	And I find that a really weird position for a communist to be in.
	Because Joe Biden's currently like kneeling on the neck of the leftists at the moment.
	Currently, like, can we have like, you know, minimum wage?
	No.
	Can we have like student debt relief?
	No.
	Can we have any of the things we asked for?
	No, you can't.
	But you can have a transgender drone strike pilot that bombs some Syrians.
	That's what you can have.
	That's what you were asking for, wasn't it?
	And so it was just like I had to, I had to share some stuff.
	to hand share some stuff because Hassan's view on the coronavirus as well is, I mean, I'm just going to just come out and call it counterfactual because he just doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.
	And that's very interesting because I've been watching a few of his videos and he's got himself into the position where he has to pretend to be the expert on everything.
	Whereas, of course, in real life, Hassan Piker is an expert on nothing.
	He's not even an expert on being some douche bro on the internet.
	He's actually not even the best douche bro on the internet or even very good at being like he's he's literally incompetent and can only parrot a narrative someone else has fed to him.
	He's been given an approved narrative and he will parrot this angrily at someone like Joe Rogan for daring to think differently.
	Anyway, so I won't waste any further time.
	Let's let's get on and watch a bit of Hassan Pika.
	Nature of COVID policies.
	Oh yeah.
	Who's he talking to?
	Oh my god, isn't this that psycho?
	Ayan Hersi Ali.
	Yeah, this chick is insane, dude.
	She's like this Ayan Hirsi Ali.
	She is effing insane according.
	I'm used to not swearing on the podcast, so I've trained myself not to swear.
	But she's insane.
	Is she?
	Is it because she's an Islamophobe, Hassan?
	I wonder what made her an Islamophobe.
	Super reactionary anti-Muslim lady, isn't she?
	So she got female.
	I love the way you can tell there's been an edit there where he's got and looked up at Wikipedia.
	So I just can't get over how bread tube are just like not even Wikipedia scholars.
	They don't know about something and then they Google it, get the first Wikipedia up and go, all right, well, that's what Wikipedia says.
	Therefore, I have spoken and this is concrete and factual now.
	Female circumcision, and obviously, I talked about how horrific that is.
	It's her talked about how horrific that is.
	The divisive nature of COVID policies.
	Oh, yeah.
	Who's he talking to?
	Oh my God.
	Isn't this that psycho?
	Ayan Hersi Ali.
	Yeah, this chick is insane, dude.
	She's like the super reactionary anti-Muslim lady, isn't she?
	So she got female circumcision.
	She got a female circumcision.
	Is that how we frame that?
	Is it Hassan?
	She got one.
	She's decided one day, I'm going to get my ears pierced.
	And she went out to the piercing parlor and got her ears pierced.
	That was a forward choice.
	That was how she decided it.
	She, the like 12-year-old girl who's held down by a bunch of women in her village and with a rusty scalpel, shunk, here goes a bunch, a huge section of your genitalia.
	And there's a woman, probably, you know, the most important part if you ever answer, I don't know, want to enjoy sex, I suppose.
	Like, she just got it, did she?
	She got it.
	That's a very interesting framing, Hassan.
	It's not something that was done to her against her will by people who thought that that was what should happen because of, I don't know, very regressive religious beliefs.
	I mean, I'm pretty sure you were an atheist yourself, aren't you?
	It's weird.
	And obviously, I talked about how horrific that is.
	Now she makes her living off of just straight up, literally fucking just talking about how she's the Candace Owens for Islam.
	That's it, okay?
	She's literally the is that an insult?
	Like, Candace Owens seems to be famous and successful.
	And I mean, I did an interview with Candace Owens in London a few years ago, and we were walking along, and there were black people on the street stopping her and saying, Thanks for everything you're doing.
	I think you're brilliant.
	Does that ever happen to you?
	Do black people ever go, oh, Hassan, thank you, man.
	You've really helped me with my life.
	Or do they look at you and think, oh, God, here comes another one to tell me I'm inferior?
	Bloody hell.
	Candace Owens of Muslims, all right?
	Which is funny because she's not a Muslim.
	She's an ex-Muslim because they took her genitals away without her permission when she was a child.
	And you ascribed it to her as an act of will.
	You're not a good person, Hassan.
	And I mean, like, am I supposed to be surprised when you're the guy who's like, America deserved 9-11?
	I just can't get over your worldview, Hassan.
	It's genuinely incredible how you seem to be such a thoroughly bad person defending thoroughly bad people against the victims of the bad people.
	And you're like, oh yeah, she is a bigot.
	Sane.
	Because you are about to find out how f ⁇ ing R slash atheism Turks are.
	Just wait.
	All of my American watchers and my international audience think that they're being like edgy atheists.
	Just wait.
	Turks on the internet are the most edgy f ⁇ ing atheists or act like they literally sleep with a copy of Quran and nothing in between, okay?
	Right.
	So Turks, according to Hassan Pika, are radicals.
	They're insanely radical atheists or insanely religious Muslims.
	Very interesting.
	Thank you for that nuanced view, Hassan.
	They're either the edgiest, like the worst atheists, like literally.
	Or they are, you know, they lie and tell you that, you know, everything is haram and they don't touch anything and whatever.
	But most of the really religious Turks are not going to be in my audience.
	Anyway, so you're going to see a lot of fucking insanely anti-Muslim and Islamophobic Turks in the chat right now.
	So the Islamophobic Turks are anti-Muslim, but the Muslims themselves, the ones who are lying and say they sleep with a copy of the Quran and never touch anything haram, I mean, are they like the far right in the Muslim world?
	They've got to be, right?
	If you're a progressive guy and you're very forward-thinking, they've got to be like really reactionary and far-right.
	And yet, you've always, you've already found yourself kind of shielding them from the edgy right-wing Islamophobic Turks.
	Isn't that weird, Hassan?
	How you're like, because ex-Muslims, atheists who come from the Islamic world are not exactly a privileged demographic.
	Like, I know lots of them who have to essentially live in hiding, who have scars because people have attacked them in the streets.
	And you're like, from the ultra-Islamic ones that you're defending from the bigotry of the atheist ones because of the damage that the Islamic extremists had done to the people who had left Islam.
	I just find it so weird how you are defending a kind of monolithic power block against the individuals who have been victimized by it.
	Just what kind of socialist is this?
	This is definitely not a sort of like, I'm for the little guy philosophy, is it?
	That's kind of a racist take, not going to lie.
	Are you saying that I'm being racist against Turkish people?
	Is that what you just told me just now?
	There is nothing more American than an American person, like an American person telling someone who is making a humorous explainer about their own culture that they are being fucking racist.
	Americans are so used to fucking colonizing that they literally have colonized social justice.
	Well, I mean, it kind of seems necessary because if without this colonization of social justice, we would be sat here going, well, Ayan Hersi Ali just went and got herself a clitorectomy one day.
	Just no reason.
	As people in the, uh, in the chat were pointing out, uh, they, they, they, there are loads of acid attacks against apostates, Hasan.
	Like, do you not think, do you not, do you not find it weird how you're telling these victims that they're bad people?
	I just find that so strange.
	Okay?
	Like, they're so used to colonizing that literally, like, people, motherfuckers at Yale are literally crafting new ways in which they can tell, like, marginalized communities, minorities, people from different ethnic backgrounds.
	Sorry, are we talking about Muslims here?
	The 1.3 billion Muslims who have, well, don't they have like 60 Muslim nations or something like that?
	Are these the marginalized and oppressed, are they?
	Not the ex-Muslims who are being victimized.
	They're not the marginalized and oppressed.
	But you are kind of right about the sort of colonizing social justice thing.
	So give you, give you your credit where it's due there.
	there was a small, a very, very small YouTube channel called Voice of Wales.
	They've got a hit piece done on it by the BBC of recently.
	And, uh, one of the, one of the clips that the BBC had used to go, look at these racists was that they'd walk past like a Cardiff art center or something like this.
	And so you'd expect it, Wales being a country of about 3 million people, you know, to have Welsh artists in the, in the, you know, Welsh national gallery for art.
	And instead, like, if featuring these Welsh artists on the front, they had George Floyd and I think it was Malcolm X.
	And the guy was like, look, this is what it's all going to be.
	And they just assumed that they meant black people.
	But there's no real reason to think they meant black people since they had black people on the show and stuff like this.
	The real thing for me was this is Americans.
	These are Americans.
	This has nothing to do with Welsh problems, believe it or not.
	And yet Voice of Wales got their YouTube channel taken down because, of course, why wouldn't YouTube just take them down?
	I mean, what had they done wrong?
	Well, they'd resisted the colonization, I could think you could say, Hassan.
	How they should behave and what the best standard of standard operating procedure is.
	Nice black and yellow or black and orange hearts in the chat, by the way.
	We didn't know that.
	I to him super straight.
	But the more we find out, the more we adapt, the more you would think that some of these intrusions into our privacy, into our liberty, it would stop and look at me.
	You're such a pig.
	Hassan, does Hassan, I mean, I don't follow Hassan's career.
	I just watch some of the clips on YouTube.
	So when he's on Twitch, is he just like on there for like 10 hours?
	And so he just turns up and he's like, Ryan's got a blab, blab, blab, blab, blab.
	Because literally, this is what he's doing.
	It's so disgusting.
	And even in some sense, people are chewing into the mic like an animal, Hassan.
	It just strikes me as being deeply improper, Hassan, but not that you'd understand such concepts.
	And I just asked, who has been to see your mother, daughter and boyfriend?
	But they were sitting outside.
	Why can't they sit inside?
	And he says, well, the rules haven't changed yet.
	But there's something in me that asks myself, who's enforcing those rules?
	And why, in the age of testing, are those rules applicable?
	Bro, you know he's trying real fucking hard.
	He's trying so fucking hard to like.
	Finish your mouth full, Hassan.
	Honestly, just if this were the dinner table and my children were doing this, I would tell them to finish their food before speaking.
	Because they have manners or I would be instilling manners within them.
	Does your father not love you, Hassan?
	Does he not care how disgusting you look in public?
	Like, have reactionary people come to his broadcast and platform them.
	That he literally had Ayan Hersi Ali come on, who is not even remotely entertaining and can't even fucking talk.
	The rules were put.
	Oh, Hassan, I realize that you're busy punching down at the Somali refugee girl who got her click cut off by a bunch of radical Islamic fundamentalists, right?
	I realize you boom, boom, boom.
	But Ayan Hirsi Ali is actually kind of an inspirational figure to me, to be honest.
	Because A, after going through all of this, one might think, okay, well, I just want a quiet life as a refugee in a country that isn't going to persecute me for not being a Muslim anymore.
	And instead, she decided to actually become a public advocate against things like the things that happened to her.
	And then she got herself a degree in something.
	I can't even remember what the degree was in.
	But obviously, you know, she's not speaking her first language here.
	And I believe she speaks a couple of extra languages as well.
	In she's she's a person of many talents who has been through a great deal of struggle and hardship and has genuinely had to work for everything that she's got.
	No one's just given it to her.
	The world has, in fact, taken things away from her before she even arrived at the age of majority.
	And you're sat there stuffing your fat face with some disgusting up yet.
	Like, you are an awful person, Hassan.
	What you are doing is being paid to defend the powerful and ignore the injustices that they commit.
	And when Joe Rogan gets someone who has had injustice done to them on, and they're like, yeah, so I think there might be something not so perfect with these lockdowns.
	You're like, oh my God, I can't believe they don't want to do exactly what Fauci wants.
	It's like, oh, yeah, I guess that makes them bad people, Hassan.
	Put in place when we thought it was the black plague.
	Somali, Arabic, and Dutch, thank you.
	The Spanish flu, and it's not the same thing.
	It's still terrible for the people that get it and die, and the people that have poor health, and the people that have underlying conditions and comorbidities, but it's not what we thought it was going to be.
	But we're still treating it like we treated it a year ago.
	Right.
	Joe Rogan's assessment there is completely correct.
	That is a true and correct assessment.
	When it first came out, and there is definitely evidence that could suggest it is intentional that the Chinese Communist Party drummed up fear over COVID, and it may well have been some kind of tactic.
	But the point is, we didn't know how bad it was going to be.
	And it was looking like, oh, God, this could be Spanish flu levels, which is really, really bad.
	And it turned out that more than 99% of people survive COVID.
	And the average age of death in the UK is 82, whereas the average life expectancy in the UK is 81.
	So in retrospect, when we normally have something around like, what is it, 9,000, 17,000 flu deaths a year?
	So, and on a bad year in the 30 to 40,000 range.
	So in a normal year where we have tens of thousands of people dying of the flu, all of them very, very old, because unfortunately, that's what happens when you get into your 80s and 90s.
	You die of a disease.
	It happens to literally everyone.
	Like everyone dies at some point of something.
	So Joe Rogan's point is this isn't actually proportionate to the threat to society.
	And perhaps maybe we should start considering going in the direction of Texas and Florida and all of those other places, Sweden that never locked down, and actually just carrying on with our lives.
	Because it seems to be that we took a we got spooked, we got scared and everyone reacted and now we made mistakes.
	I mean, like, China isn't even in lockdowns now.
	Like, if like, what would you put point to, you know?
	But what bothers me now is that it's not even possible to have a debate about that.
	Right.
	Anytime people say you should be suspicious of the government any powers because once they have this bitch is saying something I didn't hear from the media.
	That means she's wrong.
	I can't believe she would sit there on Joe Rogan's podcast and be wrong.
	You can see Neanderthal brain slowly processing it.
	The gears are clicking over as he chooses food.
	Dude, it's so sick when COVID ended and yet the shutdowns remain.
	It was so wild.
	Dude, it basically is over, Hassan.
	It basically is.
	I mean, at least in my country, 20 million odd vaccines have been pumped out.
	And we are coming out of it.
	And herd immunity is basically achieved, it seems.
	The new cases dropped off.
	But I guess it's still going.
	I guess it's all raging, isn't it?
	You know, Florida is just bodies in the streets, isn't it, Hassan?
	It's so crazy that that happened already.
	Like, motherfucker, you live in Texas, brother.
	What are you talking about?
	Your state is not over the COVID hump, despite the fact that your governor earlier today announced that there will be no mask mandates going forward.
	And as a matter of fact, took it one step further, if I'm not mistaken, and made sure that certain provinces or certain localities cannot implement their own mask mandates if they want to, unless you reach over a certain percentage of new COVID cases.
	Really fucking tight, really tight stuff going on in Texas, and it's because of morons like Joe Rogan.
	It's not Joe Rogan's fault, and that's the correct policy to have.
	A.
	I mean, there's definitely, in America at least, constitutional questions about the governors being forcing you to wear something.
	There's definitely questions of legality about that.
	But even then, again, Hassan, you're massively overblowing the threat to people's lives.
	You know, there's a tremendous drop in cases in Los Angeles, and yet you still can't go to the gym.
	You have to eat outside, and they just opened up eating outside two weeks ago.
	Yeah, we don't have to.
	God, if only Hassan would eat that.
	For a fact, I know that they did it for optics.
	Yeah, yeah, no, it doesn't spread outside famously.
	I'm glad that two fucking Hassan, that is true.
	That's a true statement.
	You dunce.
	You've done absolutely no research on this, have you?
	Brilliant scientists, epidemiologists are talking about how COVID doesn't famously, COVID doesn't spread outside.
	Listen, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, literally, this is what happened.
	This is literally sage scientists.
	Crowded beaches didn't spread COVID.
	What now, Hassan?
	What now?
	Everyone went to the beach.
	No one got COVID.
	There wasn't a big outbreak.
	I mean, and the thing is, this is what your narrative was when the Black Lives Matter protests were going on.
	Well, everyone was wearing a mask, therefore no one spread it.
	Okay, well, if people wear masks outside, then no one spreads it.
	There we go.
	This is literally your position and the science.
	It's just when Joe Rogan says it, you say the opposite for some reason.
	Amazing.
	Difference is, these fucking dinguses think that they're smarter than Donald Trump, okay?
	This is such a fucking brain-dead take.
	They think they're smarter than Donald Trump.
	Well, okay, look.
	I, I, I, still have my MAGA hat, Hassan.
	I still think Donald Trump is the best thing since sliced bread, the best thing to happen to American politics.
	And I think they're smarter than Donald Trump, too.
	It's not that I think Donald Trump's dumb or anything like that.
	I just don't think he's an academic like Anne Hersey Alley, who, as someone pointed out, has a degree in political science.
	So she might be smarter than Donald Trump, but it's okay.
	There's nothing wrong with not being super smart.
	What's wrong is when you can't make prudent decisions like you, Hassan.
	You can't make prudent decisions.
	Because I'm pretty sure prudent decisions wouldn't lead you to condemning the victim of genital mutilation and defending Joe Biden.
	Like, that doesn't seem like how that seems like the consequence of terrible decision-making to me.
	The sort of genuine Neanderthal decision-making I would expect from you, in fact.
	That it's literally what you would hear from Donald Trump and make fun of for a while.
	As a matter of fact.
	Donald Trump would say something true and you would make fun of it because it came from Donald Trump.
	That's all you're saying.
	Matter of fact, Joe Rogan probably made fun of Trump for saying moronic things like this.
	Because I know someone who works with the government who literally had this conversation.
	And this is the Alex Jones take.
	I got the documents.
	I got my contacts inside.
	So they're closing businesses down and they're denying people a living for optics.
	It's very suspicious that when Los Angeles closed down outdoor businesses because outdoor gatherings were still causing some spread.
	No, they weren't.
	Suspiciously, in the aftermath of the massive peak during holiday season, those shutdown measures also came along with a diminishing new COVID case rate that Joe Rogan.
	Right, so we're over the COVID hump, are we?
	If the new case rate is diminishing, then maybe Joe Rogan's right.
	Hey?
	Rogan personally just mentioned.
	But that probably happened because, you know, Allah willed it or something, right?
	Like, I don't know how the fuck that happened.
	Who knows?
	Who knows how the Los Angeles COVID cases have been on the decline, which Joe Rogan literally just mentioned.
	But in this case, when you say optics, what will they use that power for then?
	Because they would be voted out of power if they carried on like this.
	I don't know if they will.
	Now, Joe Rogan, I don't know whether you caught that, but the optics are that they're doing something.
	That's why Andrew Cuomo had a 74% approval rating at the height of the COVID crisis.
	I mean, he was putting COVID patients in nursing homes and therefore getting tens of thousands of elderly killed, which incidentally was beneficial for him because he was facing a massive budget deficit because of Medicaid and nursing homes.
	It's really, it just gets my gears, you know, cogs, really.
	And but the thing is, because nobody knew what this was and nobody knew what to do, the fact that the public representative would come on TV and much the same Donald Trump would, and every day go, look, this is what we know.
	This is what we're doing.
	We're doing our best.
	This is, you know, everyone stay safe or whatever.
	Follow the instructions.
	And the same thing happened in Britain as well with the Conservative government.
	Like, the approval rating just starts going up.
	But people are like, oh, right, they're doing something about the crisis because they know it's not their fault.
	They know that nobody really knows what they're doing.
	So at least they look like they're doing something.
	And the same thing happened to Cuomo.
	That's why.
	And Rogan is completely correct here.
	He is completely correct.
	Dude, this conversation is so stupid.
	This is literally just a conversation.
	critique fucking idiots who oh you you're the guy who knows everything aren't you son You're the big brainer.
	You can say, boom, boom.
	I mean, we can't see, obviously, you having a big brain because such a thing was impossible.
	Can't falsify such a thing.
	But the point is, Hassan.
	The point is, you are not an expert on anything.
	You actually don't know anything about this subject.
	You haven't done any research.
	And it seems like you actually don't follow the news, really.
	It kind of seems like you've been paid off.
	That's what I find really interesting.
	You seem to be paid off to defend the power structures against those who would challenge them.
	And I find that really weird.
	It's weird that there's an audience for such a thing, too.
	Think they're smart.
	I don't know how else to describe this.
	What we are watching is two fucking absolute morons having a conversation, thinking that they're actually brilliant.
	It is, that's, oh God, oh God.
	That is the irony, the irony of all of this, Hassan.
	I just can't get over it.
	Like, Hassan, do a live IQ test.
	Do a live IQ test.
	If you're so goddamn smart, do a live IQ test on your Twitch stream.
	I mean, loads of people would watch.
	It's going to get mad views, bruh.
	Gonna get loads of donations in.
	You know, you can't get donations from me, but, you know, if you're watching my stream, but you'll get mad donations, bro, as you're defending Biden and proving to everyone that you've got the biggest IQ.
	So weird watching this, and millions of people watch this shit.
	The question, right, would really be, would he be sub-100?
	Because there's a part of me that thinks I would put money on it, that he would do an IQ test live on Twitch and actually get like 96 or something.
	What are you guys doing?
	You think when you lower your tone of voice and talk slowly that automatically the things that you're saying are going to sound clear and cohesive analysis?
	I love it.
	If you talk slowly and clearly and normally, then the things that you say will sound clear.
	Yes, Hassan.
	Yes, they do think that.
	They do think, and they're right to think that.
	Not screeching like a baboon into the microphone makes it easier to communicate.
	That's correct, Hassan.
	Again, another big brain intervention.
	Good observation.
	In regards to the problems at hand.
	No, no, no.
	They're just going to keep getting elected, actually, as a matter of fact.
	It really does not matter because there's going to be more Democrats than there are Republicans in California.
	And therefore, Democrats are going to be able to continue exercising their power for no reason other than the fact that they just want to do it for optics.
	Also, this terrible fear of the virus, the terrible fear of what it actually is.
	If you go to Los Angeles today and when I talk to my friends, they have a totally different idea of what the virus is than if you're here in Texas.
	Dude, that's not a good thing, okay?
	The people I've surrounded myself with are kind of fucking dumb about a pandemic, including one of the fucking more famous instances being Dave Chappelle getting COVID very publicly and even giving it to a fucking bartender.
	Those guys don't believe COVID is real.
	So, you know, it's just, it must be a matter of culture.
	It's like, why?
	Didn't kill him, did it, Hassan?
	It's not that lethal.
	It's lethal if you're, it's something like 20% of over 80s who get COVID die.
	It's like, so I've got an 80% chance of surviving COVID if I'm in my 80s.
	That's, that's amazing, frankly.
	Like, it's amazing how non-lethal the disease actually is.
	The problem with it seems to be its virulence.
	I'm sure there's a proper word for it, but the transmission rate.
	You know, I'm not an epidemiologist, but the rate of transmission seems to be very easy to transmit from one person to another.
	But it's actually not the dangerous.
	I mean, my wife had it over Christmas.
	It seemed like a bad flu.
	I mean, I probably got it, but I guess I was asymptomatic.
	But it's like, it's, I mean, it looked rough.
	Look, she had a rough few days, you know, and it was rough for me because then I had to take care of the kids, and that was bloody rough.
	But, you know, so, you know, salute to my wife for doing that every day.
	And that's another thing why the lockdowns are bad because it's been driving her mad.
	She's had to be dealing with all of the kids, the three kids, all day, every day when I get to work.
	And man, I am so glad I get to work.
	You know, those people who are trapped at home, and we've got a middle-class house, you know, we've got a middle-class family house.
	Imagine if you were trapped in like a one-bedroom apartment with two people or like, you know, two beds with kids.
	And, you know, so if you're poor, you're lower on the socioeconomic scale.
	Not that I know you don't care about these people, Hassan.
	You know, these are not people worthy of defense.
	But if you're in that position, these lockdowns must have been a form of living hell.
	And I dread to think the damage they've done to the kids themselves.
	And so it seems that for most people, like 90-something percent of the population who are 90 on apes or 0.5, whatever it is, below 65, who essentially no danger whatsoever, there's no justification for locking them in their homes and shutting everything down.
	It's just not justified.
	The World Health Organization does not recommend lockdowns.
	That's something that you don't know, Hassan, because you haven't looked it up.
	But if you type in World Health Organization lockdowns and go to their website and find it, you'll notice that they say, well, we understand why some places do it, but it actually hurts black and brown people and families the most.
	So it's not the sort of thing we promote.
	But again, you're an idiot, Hassan.
	Why are you pointing to Texas's situation where El Paso was literally a fucking war zone not that long ago, as though it is, you know, a successful example to follow?
	People like, they treat it like it's a bad.
	I have no idea what happened in El Paso, but then I don't think Hassan does either.
	So let's carry on.
	Cold, which is what it is.
	It kills people, but so does the flu.
	But we never close down schools for the flu.
	The flu actually kills kids.
	This kills very few children.
	A tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny percentage.
	Schools are famously owned, operated, and cleaned, and nursed by children.
	It's always, this is a fun fact for those of you who don't know.
	If you go to the state of Texas, schools are very different.
	Hassan, the average age of death for COVID is 82.
	82, Hassan.
	82.
	If schools are not staffed by octogenarians, there is no problem and no threat to anyone.
	And I just had to say, this is what the science says, if you care about such a thing.
	Of course, the question is, what does the Biden administration say?
	Because that's where you get your truth from, isn't it, Hassan?
	It's like the teachers are also children, and the children do not have any other family members.
	So in the state of Texas, when a child gets COVID, he can't spread it to other parents because there are no parents.
	They're all children.
	So it's like a child-to-child spread, just like the teacher is also a child, just like the janitor is also a child, like, you know, the principal's also a child.
	Really laboring.
	They famously don't have adults working.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	And those adults also don't have adult family members that they live with.
	And that's precisely why they would never be considered a cluster or anything like that.
	Right, that's interesting, right?
	Put a pin in that spreads in the household.
	People have the ability to tell people you can't work.
	That's very dangerous.
	Or to tell someone, your business is not essential.
	But Target is.
	Well, maybe you have a small store that sells goods.
	Well, you can't open.
	But this big store, this big chain, why?
	But, well, they're, they, it's like, that's, right.
	Good point by Joe.
	Really good point by Joe.
	And again, if we're talking about the kind of moral power dynamic analysis that the left usually or used to be able to give, then Joe Rogan's on the exact right side of the issue.
	Who's the little guy?
	Who's the guy without any power?
	Who's the guy having things being taken away from them arbitrarily by the powerful, by the state, by international business?
	Well, Joe Rogan is defending that person against the monolithic powers that are victimizing them.
	And so Hassan leaps in the way.
	No!
	Don't criticize Target or the government.
	Yes, I'm a socialist.
	How did you know?
	Go on, Hassan.
	What is your mealy mouth defense?
	It's not even fucking true.
	It's literally not true.
	It is a grocery store.
	It doesn't matter if you're a small grocery store or a big grocery-class.
	What if you're a hairdresser, Hassan?
	What if you're any small business?
	It doesn't have to be a grocer.
	For the love of God, man.
	Like, it doesn't matter.
	The government shouldn't be allowed to just simply deprive you of your lawfully owned business.
	I mean, that's what the fascists did, Hassan.
	That is what fascism looks like, Hassan.
	Why are you in favor of the economic policies of fascism?
	The hell is wrong with you?
	Big one.
	It's literally a false statement.
	You absolutely can keep your fucking grocery store open.
	It's still an essential business.
	Oh, well, you owe them a thank you, I suppose, don't you?
	You owe them a thank you for being allowed to keep your grocery store open.
	Oh, you crusader for justice, Hassan.
	No, you can make that faulty comparison.
	There is a needle and thread, a sewing store near me.
	I've actually shopped that before because I bought some wool there a few years ago to make slings out of.
	And it's 57 years old.
	And recently in our local paper, there's a little thing saying, well, no, no, no, we think we'll be able to survive the lockdowns.
	We think, because we're looking at the end of the light and the tunnels coming closer.
	And it's like, yes, we think we'll be able to get out.
	And to be honest with you, I feel kind of obliged to go and buy something.
	You know, I don't want a 57-year-old shop to close down because a bunch of tyrants got spooked and decided, actually, we don't have rights.
	And screw you.
	The government gets to decide who gets to own a business or not.
	I really, I don't like that at all.
	So maybe I'll have to go and build a new sling for the first time in years.
	But anyway, Hassan, sorry, you were busy justifying the oppression of the little guy by the state and corporate merger that is now shutting them down unilaterally.
	Go on, sorry, carry on.
	But this notion that, like, there is some kind of qualification for grocery stores, but only big ones and not small ones is so dumb.
	The reason why he...
	Well, there certainly is for things like Amazon, aren't there?
	If you...
	If you don't have some sort of delivery service set up, then you can sell your toys.
	And if you're a small toy store or small just shop that sells something that isn't groceries, if you have no delivery system, which you wouldn't have done prior to COVID, because why would you?
	then you're out of luck.
	And if you do, you're in competition with Amazon now.
	Good luck.
	You know, it's not people seeing stuff in the shop window and coming into the shop when they're walking past in the high street, like most of your business was before.
	No, now you have to hope people go to your website, find your service to be superior and prices to be superior to Amazon's, which let's be fair, they're not going to be.
	When you buy something on the high street, you're buying for convenience because it's right there.
	You know it's going to cost you more.
	And so they're pretty shit out of luck again.
	But once again, Hassan jumps in.
	No, don't insult.
	Save the big corporations whom I love so much.
	Shut up, small businessmen.
	Stop being whining about this oppression.
	It's just such a weird position you live in, Hassan.
	He can probably get away with lying like this, though, is because there aren't that many fucking small grocery stores left.
	It's all retailers, a gigantic franchise at this point.
	And that's fine.
	And that's a good thing, is it, Hassan?
	Absolute brainless.
	You know, there's unions that are involved, like that woman that we were talking about before the show, who had a restaurant in Los Angeles, and she had outside dining that she paid thousands of dollars that she probably didn't even have to set this up so she can keep her business afloat.
	And then they told her you have to close down outdoor dining.
	And across the parking lot, the television and movie studios were allowed to have outdoor dining.
	Like literally, she could walk 10 steps and she could be in their outdoor dining and her business is being forced to shut down.
	Right.
	This is a totally true statement from Joe Rogan.
	exactly what happened uh this this poor woman literally across the road there's a um do they have the video no i thought they'd had the I thought they'd have had the video embedded.
	But there's a video...
	Oh, here it is.
	I think it's this one.
	So yeah, here we go.
	So this is my place, the Pineapple Hill Grill and Saloon.
	If you go to my page, you can see all the work I did for outdoor dining, for tables being seven feet apart.
	And I come in today because I'm organizing a protest and I came in to get stuff for that.
	And I walk into my parking lot.
	And obviously, Mayor Garcetti has approved this.
	This being set up for, this being set up for, for a movie company.
	So small business, not allowed to open, right?
	But look at the, look, just, do we think that this isn't the result of money that has changed hands at some point?
	I mean, are we so naive as to think that this isn't favors being done, backs being scratched, Hassan?
	Just out of interest.
	But sorry, you're about to defend the giant movie company and their rights to be able to have one set of rules that's just for them because they're a giant multi-million or multi-billion dollar industry.
	And this woman who owns a restaurant and why she's in the wrong and they're in the right.
	Again, just jumping in front of the power, right?
	You're like, I'm the defense force for the billionaires.
	Right, go on, Hassan.
	Let's hear it.
	What really frustrates me about this, this is a real story, okay?
	This is a story that went viral.
	And I watched it.
	I'm really frustrated because it really looks like she has a moral case here.
	It's difficult to defend my paymasters if she's actually in the rights.
	Just say it like that, Hassan.
	I talked about it as well.
	What frustrates me about this fucking dumbass story is that that does suck, okay?
	That does suck.
	I don't want a small reference.
	But fuck you.
	I've got to defend the people in charge for some reason.
	That's what it is, isn't it, Hassan?
	Restaurant owners to be devastated, especially when they close down outdoor dining.
	There is a genuine problem there.
	But the real problem, or the real solution rather, to that problem isn't open everything.
	He's like, that's what we should be doing.
	If you have to close restaurants and you have to help them.
	And the problem is we don't.
	The government has no infrastructure to deliver people money quickly and expediently.
	The government has.
	I wonder why.
	I wonder why the government doesn't have infrastructure to just pour money into the pockets of citizens.
	I mean, A, you probably could make the case that it actually does because of the welfare state.
	But why would the government have such a thing?
	Unless, of course, you're a communist who literally thinks that everyone should get any resources they have through the government.
	Which is kind of a terrifying thought if you think about it.
	Because, like, do you want to be in every single way dependent on the state?
	That sounds like serfdom, doesn't it?
	Or worse, slavery.
	It sounds like you're not free, Hassan.
	And you're complaining that that's the position that people aren't in.
	Weird.
	You just, again, I have such a strange worldview, Hassan.
	And I just don't think you're smart enough to understand why I'm making these commentaries about you.
	Has no interest in giving people money because, you know, they're not going to be.
	It's not the government's job.
	The government doesn't own anything.
	Like, it doesn't have plantations or factories or anything, Hassan.
	The government doesn't make money.
	It takes your money, you bloody brainlets, and is now distributing out.
	Or if it can't do that, it takes loans.
	It prints money.
	And that's betting on the future, betting that people in the future will be able to pay these loans back, which is not going to happen, is it?
	I mean, let's be honest with the amount of debt the West is in at the moment, that's not going anywhere.
	And are we not worried about hyperinflation?
	I mean, the price of food in the United States has gone up by like 50% in the past month.
	And it's like, that's massive.
	I remember in like 2008, somewhere around that, 2009, it happened here.
	The price of food here went up 50%.
	Like when I was a pound to buy a liter of milk or two liters of milk, whatever it is, and it went up to a pound 50%.
	And at the time, I wasn't employed.
	So it was like, oh my God, this is like a real problem.
	You know, this is really difficult to deal with.
	And do you not think that that means that for working families who are like, you know, the minimum wage earners, the people who are poor around your country, they're actually struggling now.
	They're struggling even more.
	But you are sat there going, oh, don't blame the movie studios who get to have open-air restaurants.
	Like, where are your priorities, Hassan?
	And that's the real issue.
	Also, it's still not a one-to-one perfect comparison because movie studios get special privileges because they are testing everyone around the clock, whereas you have no fucking idea who your employees are.
	They are not getting tested or not.
	Just wind that back, Hassan.
	Wind that back just a second, right?
	Think about it.
	Woman who owns a restaurant who employs, say, what, 20 people at most, you don't know who your employees are.
	Movie studio that employs thousands, they do, do they?
	Do you do you?
	I just can't get over how much of a small brain take that is.
	I mean, have you never worked at a small business?
	Like, oh, I don't know, got a job with your uncle or something and worked on his small family business.
	And you notice that all of these people know each other really well because they're all in, you know, it's a small sort of environment that they're in.
	It's not a giant international corporation.
	I just can't, I can't believe how just out of touch with reality you are.
	I mean, I kind of notice you've got the Bernie thing in the background, so maybe I can believe it.
	Testing everyone round the clock, whereas you have no fucking idea who your employees are.
	Movie studios are testing people round the clock.
	The folks who defended Harvey Weinstein are the trustworthy people.
	If they, oh, no, sir, we did all of our tests and we're doing them round the clock.
	Hassan's like, you know what?
	That's good enough for me.
	Thank you, boys.
	I can go out and tell this small business owner to shut the fuck up now.
	Like, bullshit, Hassan.
	Bullshit.
	And you know it.
	Well, no, no, okay.
	I'm not going to describe that to you.
	You probably don't know it.
	They are not getting tested.
	Or not, sorry, not your employees, sorry.
	The people that are coming into your restaurant are.
	Here's the thing about lockdowns that have been pretty clearly established.
	First of all, they don't work.
	They don't really curtail the, they don't really curtail the virus.
	But what they do do is they force people inside.
	When you force people inside, you force people to congregate.
	It spreads easier.
	It spreads.
	And that's part of the problem.
	What?
	What?
	Okay, Hassan.
	I'll do the Googling for you, right?
	So this was just a housing, household transmission and ethnicity study that was done by the UK government on the 26th of November 2020.
	Line one, Hassan.
	Again, first result on Google, right?
	When I put in household transmission, first results, line one.
	Households are an important contributor to the transmission of COVID-19.
	High confidence.
	Although how infection is transmitted into households is unclear.
	Well, we actually have the information about that now, by the way.
	But, Hassan, to think that trapping people inside where all they can do is interact with one another isn't going to be an obviously high way for COVID to transmit from person to person is.
	I mean, if you've got a better way, I guess we'll hear it.
	Let's hear it, Hassan.
	You absolute just, again, just micro-brain, just lazy, good for nothing.
	I mean, I feel like I'm your dad berating you for not having done your homework because that's pretty much what's happening here, isn't it?
	Dude, oh, come on, come on, come on, come on.
	Outdoor restaurants closing leads to indoor restaurants opening magically?
	Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	What?
	Who said that, Hassan?
	He said that locking people in houses actually makes COVID spread within these families and for some reason isn't stopping COVID from going house to house.
	And you know why?
	Because it turns out that in places like hospitals and supermarkets, that's how people get COVID.
	That's where they're going.
	My wife got COVID when she gave birth to my son after coming back from the hospital.
	She came back with COVID.
	Because if you force everyone to go through a very narrow set of channels, you concentrate all human activity into like four or five different spheres of life.
	That's how people come to contact with each other.
	And that's how these things get spread.
	The crowded beaches don't do it because people are away from each other.
	They're not touching.
	But when they're going through the same route all day every day, it turns out that helps spread a contagious disease.
	Hassan, you did no work on this.
	There's no fucking way.
	Dude, come on.
	There's better counterpoints than this.
	He's not even trying.
	To take that lockdowns lead to more people staying indoors is probably this.
	I can't believe it.
	Lockdowns lead to more people staying indoors.
	And that's a stupid statement in your world, is it, Hassan?
	I mean, you're literally being forced by the government to stay indoors.
	And you think that's stupid.
	Six minutes, Joe Rogan outdid himself.
	What do you think a lockdown is, Hassan?
	When the government says you can't go to work, you can't go to any anything entertaining, you can take like one walk a day.
	Where the fuck do you think people are?
	Like, seriously, where are they?
	Hassan, explain it for everyone.
	I really want to know.
	Where do people exist when they're being locked down?
	Fucking idiots.
	I just go, yeah, he's such a he's so smooth-brained.
	Like, he's just so dumb.
	You have a perpetual dunce face on, Hassan.
	Like, you are a dunce.
	And that word has got many different levels of meaning, and they all apply to you.
	They all apply to you.
	You are the slow kid at the back of the classroom that everyone's like, oh, God, he's asking another question again.
	You really are.
	It is literally the worst take.
	it's the dumbest one i've ever heard from him it's it's so it's so weird that like covet has turned him into a uh one a karen and then two this like oh yeah yeah he's full-on karen You're the one telling people they're bad people for challenging the COVID narrative.
	You're the one acting like a Karen.
	But no, Joe Rogan's the Karen for thinking that lockdowns make people stay at home.
	That's right.
	Delusional conspiracy lord now.
	But it does spread inside, and so you force people inside, you tell people they can't work, and they're all congregated together.
	Like, what is he talking about?
	Is he talking about like a multi-family home or something?
	Any home that has more than one person in Hassan.
	Oh my god.
	Like, where are people getting forced to be inside, but with like people outside of their bubble?
	When they get sick or when they need food, Hassan.
	When they get sick or when they need food, and then they return to where they live with a new infection they didn't previously fucking have.
	Oh my god, Hassan, you are actually the dumbest man on the planet.
	Like the fact that people watch you, I can only assume that the 329,154 people who have watched this have been people who watch you ironically to see what the world's stupidest take is and have it actually presented to them in a nicely edited fashion.
	That's all I can assume, Hassan.
	What is he saying?
	Like when they shut down in the argument that he's making, it's like you can shut down outdoor dining, but indoor dining and indoor establishments are still open or something?
	What?
	I can't believe you uploaded this to the internet.
	Like you, you were like, yeah, that's a good clip.
	Upload that.
	Send that to the editor.
	Get him to upload it.
	Brilliant.
	This makes me look smart.
	This is me dunking on Joe Rogan.
	Hassan, you are an embarrassment.
	What?
	I think he means that if you don't give people an opportunity to hang outside, they will break the bubble and hang out indoors, which is arguably more dangerous.
	Okay, but that's also...
	Which it's not, and that's not what he's saying, but carry on.
	That's like saying, okay, well, people will then go hang out outside and break the rules and hang out outside.
	Limiting random traffic among strangers is the goal.
	That is precisely why you shut down dining, okay?
	You shut down establishments where you congregate at with other random people.
	Unless, of course, you work for a Hollywood movie studio or you're Amazon or any other kind of power structure that Hassan Pika finds to be worthy.
	If you're outside of that, then you need to be shut down.
	That is how you limit the spread.
	That's not.
	That's not true.
	That's just not true.
	Again, didn't happen.
	Didn't happen.
	You're wrong about everything, Hassan.
	You are just wrong.
	Stop fucking talking.
	For the love of God.
	You are in your own bubble and you have another person who is in their own bubble.
	And those people get together, but they've taken the appropriate precautionary measures.
	Then, yes, you are increasing your risk, but it's still less risky.
	You're giving him too much credit.
	He's saying now you're stuck inside in your home and that's where most spread happens like an idiot.
	And the government doesn't give a shit about that.
	They keep getting paid no matter what.
	When they close down these businesses, I think the government, I think the state, I think the governor, and I think the mayor, they should be paid proportionately with the amount of money that's generated by the businesses, particularly the businesses that are forced to close.
	See how fucking quick everything opens up.
	It would open up like that.
	See how quick everything opens up if you give people the freedom to go places.
	Wait, see, now that's a great.
	Again, I don't want to sit here going, well, Joe Rogan's making a great point, but he is making a great point.
	That's a totally, totally salient point.
	If the governor's wages of under 100K a year or whatever it is, if that was reduced proportionally by, I don't know, the wages lost through lockdowns, just calculate whatever percentage of wages being lost and then reduce his wages proportionally, then I don't doubt that you would find a much less totalitarian approach to COVID being promoted.
	But instead, because they are guaranteed a paycheck, it doesn't matter to them.
	They're not affected at all.
	And if you're Nancy Pelosi, you'll go and get the barbers to open up so you can get your hair done and look nice.
	You know, you might end up going on holiday.
	Like, who was the one that went on holiday?
	I can't remember off hand.
	But it's a bunch.
	It's happened a bunch of times.
	And it always seems to be left-wing hypocrite Democrat politicians who are doing it.
	And then Hassan's like, yeah, no, but they did nothing wrong.
	Fuck those small businesses.
	Even that's false, by the way.
	That's literally fucking false.
	No, that's not, that's not how that works at all.
	People are still understandably afraid.
	What did he, did I miss the point?
	Was he talking about taxes or something?
	Wait, what the fuck was he saying?
	No.
	I think the governor and I think the mayor, they should be paid proportionately with the amount of money that's generated by the businesses, particularly the businesses that are forced to close.
	What?
	Dude.
	What?
	I love this dunce bread tube response.
	There's loads of them that, you know, Vorsch does it, Destiny does it, Hassan does it.
	The dunce bread tuber.
	What?
	That's so crazy.
	I just don't understand.
	It's like, yeah, it is very clear you don't understand, but maybe not making that quite so obvious would save you embarrassment in the future.
	Who the fuck is this guy hanging out with, dude?
	How can he come up with an idea so dumb?
	is baffling dude how do you support Bernie Sanders at one point and then fucking turn around and have the this is like crackhead levels of bad ideas okay Right.
	So Joe Rogan is a crackhead of some sort.
	Like he's comparable to a crackhead.
	And he also went to vote for Bernie Sanders.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Starting to really add up.
	That's all I'm saying.
	So people for Bernie Sanders have problems.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	Like, it is literally the dumbest thing I've ever fucking.
	Oh, it's probably Elon Musk.
	I'm thinking, I'm wondering, like, who the fuck is influencing Joe Rogan to have like such psychopathic, like, NCAP theories?
	Who cares?
	Like, why, why do you spend any amount of your life caring who is influencing Joe Rogan's opinions?
	Like, this is so weird that you're like the opinion patrol police on the internet.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, God.
	A celebrity's had an opinion, which I don't approve of.
	Oh, God, quick.
	Who are they hanging out with?
	We're going to track them down.
	Oh, God, it's Elon Musk.
	Oh, he's way above my pay grade.
	I can't do anything to Elon Musk.
	So, like, what are you doing?
	Why did you appoint yourself to this position, Hassan?
	I guess it just pays well, right?
	Because they have to be overlooking the negative side effects of that, right?
	Like, if you were to incentivize mayors by like generating profit, you really fucking think that that would be beneficial to the people that are working there?
	No, you're supposed to.
	Well, he didn't say that, Hassan.
	But yeah, it would be beneficial if they took pay cuts in line with the people they govern over.
	That would be definitely beneficial.
	But I mean, that's only if you care about the people at the bottom, which we've already established that you don't.
	Those people need to be quiet and stop doing the thinking because they're so dumb.
	Aren't they, Hassan?
	If you become a corporate CEO, then, you know, that mayor will become literally everything you despise about mega corporations.
	That's how you get fucking slavery, okay?
	What?
	Okay, so we've translated to public servants having their pay docked in proportion with the damage they do to the economy with their policies to literal slavery if we do that.
	Weird.
	Make the mayoral salary tied to the profit margins, dude.
	How is the same guy that shit on Dave Rubin for his idiotic libertarian takes?
	You can stay home.
	You can social distance.
	You can wear masks.
	You can exercise in the park out in nature, but you can't because the park's shut because they're worried about COVID.
	Like, these are some of the rules that people have had to deal with over this past year.
	Nonsensical rules.
	Like, you can't go to the bathroom.
	You guys can't go to the beach.
	It's nonsense.
	Bro, have you seen the fucking beaches?
	Yeah, I have seen the beaches, and it turns out the science says that they don't spread COVID.
	What now, Hassan?
	Like, I know why.
	Here's what happened.
	Okay, here's what public officials are supposed to do.
	They are supposed to keep the parks open at first, and they're supposed to keep the beaches open at first, and they did.
	And guess what fucking happened when you kept the parks open and the beaches open?
	People were like this at fucking beaches, dog.
	Yeah, but it didn't spread any COVID, so who cares, dog?
	That's precisely why.
	And this happened a year ago, by the way.
	I don't know why we're still having this conversation, unless, like, a DMT fucking eroded his prefrontal cortex to a degree where, like, he is no more.
	Yeah, you hear that, Joe Rogan, you crackhead.
	Just, oh, your brain has been rotted by drugs, says Hassan Pika.
	Sorry, Hassan, go on.
	You're moralizing at us.
	Longer understands what time is like.
	It's just melted completely.
	And he doesn't get time.
	He thinks we're still in like the first day of COVID or something.
	It is wild to me that he has this take.
	Local governments keep certain things open.
	They want to encourage people being healthy.
	They want to encourage people going outside and being outdoors.
	They did this in Los Angeles.
	Guess what fucking happened?
	No one knew how to deal with the open spaces.
	And this is what they did when they were outdoors.
	So they closed.
	Yeah, but you've got no proof that going to the beach spread COVID.
	You just have zero.
	I mean, you're not asserting any.
	And there doesn't seem to be any, or at least none that I've found.
	So what now?
	They slowly open them when the number of new COVID cases decreases.
	When they say follow the science, well, you're not following the science.
	Correct.
	If he did follow the science, you'd let people do anything they wanted outside.
	Correct.
	Where the fuck did he go?
	I thought like Spotify would keep him on a leash or something.
	Oh, God.
	Why isn't Spotify censoring Joe Rogan for literally accurately referencing the scientific research into this?
	I am trying to defend Joe Biden, the corporations, and the Democratic establishment.
	And this is making us look bad.
	That's what this is, Hassan, isn't it?
	That's what this is.
	And instead of like his content changing for the better, it literally got way worse.
	I really thought that like Spotify and the $100 million contract he got was going to, I don't know, maybe stop him from non-stop spreading COVID denial and COVID denial.
	Joe, didn't Spotify pay you off to shut your mouth and not question the left-wing narrative on anything?
	Didn't they?
	Spotify, do something about this transphobe.
	He's spreading COVID denial.
	COVID conspiracy theory.
	COVID-19.
	And it's been worse somehow.
	He moved to Texas and his takes have gotten like Joe Rogan has.
	Everything Joe Rogan has said here is scientifically verifiable, as the studies that we have show.
	The studies we have show that Joe Rogan is correct, and Hassan Pika is a just a dunce.
	I just don't want to have to keep using that word, but I just don't have a better word.
	You absolute dunce, Hassan.
	Like, they've gone into overdrive.
	Like, I can't even fucking watch any of his videos anymore.
	You wanted censorship, Keg W?
	No, I just want someone to shut him up.
	I'm not fucking enjoying to not be a literal mouthpiece with the dumbest fucking ideas possible.
	Why?
	Who cares?
	Who cares?
	I mean, if someone is saying something genuinely dumb, there's no reason that you should be like, Spotify, do something about this.
	It's just no reason.
	There is no excuse here, Hassan.
	This is no longer even entertaining.
	He's like having straight-up propagandists like Ion Hersey Ali.
	And the only reason why you want to act like it's fucking fun is because you assume somewhere along the line a liberal is being triggered.
	So it must be good content for me.
	You understand?
	I like Joe Rogan.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	They're having a serious conversation.
	Ion Hercy Ali is a serious person.
	They're talking about a serious problem that has happened.
	They're not like laughing and joking.
	This isn't a comedy.
	What is wrong with you?
	Rogan.
	I have liked Joe Rogan for a long time.
	I've been a fan of his.
	I've met him.
	I've hung out with him.
	Like, the feeling was mutual back in the day.
	Used to be a fan of the Young Turks.
	And throughout the years, it he became well.
	He went up and down on the content pipeline where he was responsible for a lot of alt-right people gaining prominence.
	Oh, Hassan, shut up.
	Joe Rogan has had zero alt-right people on his podcast.
	Like, you probably platform more than he does when it comes to the alt-right.
	That was not great.
	It was pretty fucking shitty, as a matter of fact.
	But ultimately, it was like normalizing around the, you know, around this time last year, Joe Rogan was like going back to at least having some like leftist figures on his show and shit like that, even though he still had a bunch of dumbasses who he agreed with.
	Wow, it's almost like you're saying he's a centrist.
	It's almost like you're saying he's some radical centrist who weighs up the merits of both sides.
	And the one that seems to be talking the most sense is the one he agrees with.
	What a bad person.
	Joe Rogan should really consider that he's just a bad person.
	That's what he needs to do.
	On the show as well.
	But now it is gone to the.
	I mean, he literally fucking kicked it into the next level, okay?
	This is like an uninterrupted sea of idiotic fucking takes, especially because of the COVID shit.
	Yeah, he went from fucking having.
	Okay, the epidemiologist, epidemiologist that Joe Rogan had on his show before CNN, before MSNBC, is literally a part of the Joe Biden team of pandemic experts.
	The person that Joe Rogan had on his fucking show before anyone else to warn about COVID literally is on Joe Biden's team.
	Okay.
	And there's validity.
	That's how you know someone is good and smart and great.
	If they're on Joe Biden's team, that's where the good people reside.
	That's where truth resides.
	You see, truth comes from power and power comes from recognition and validation.
	And so if they're on Joe Biden's team, well, you know that they're right.
	You know they're good.
	You don't need to question it.
	Even I assume he's talking about Fauci here.
	And I don't know who he's talking about otherwise.
	And if it is Fauci, then Fauci has literally had and held every single COVID position it's possible to have.
	At some point, Fauci has been against masks or four masks or against lockdowns or four lockdowns, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	All the way through, right?
	So, I mean, I suppose the only position Fauci hasn't held is anti-vaxa.
	So, like, you know, it's not like even there is a consistent position.
	And then, Hassan, you go, well, back at the beginning of the COVID thing, you had Falcon or whatever the epidemiologist was.
	It's like, yeah, back when they didn't know anything about this.
	Back when the evidence wasn't out.
	Back when we didn't know the average age of death was going to be after the average life expectancy of our countries.
	Back when we didn't realize that actually concentrating people into small areas would actually spread it faster and make it worse than if we just actually let people go to the beach.
	And yet, you have not changed your position on any of this.
	You still have the most hysterical view of COVID that it is possible to have, and that benefits only people like Amazon.
	It's weird where you find yourself, isn't it?
	Okay, that is how legit that person was.
	He went from having Michael Osterholm on a show.
	Oh, Osterho.
	Talk about the pandemic when people weren't even aware of what the fuck was going on to having Ion Hirsia Leon, specifically because she says the right things that, you know, oh no, not saying the right things.
	Who wants to be correct, Hassan?
	But yeah, sorry, Michael Osterholme or whatever his name was.
	Yeah, back when this started and people didn't even know what was going on, as you said, people didn't know what was going on.
	And so his information then, not really that useful than the, or at least less useful than the information we have now, Hassan.
	It's so like if you spent any amount of time just slowing down and thinking through your own positions, you'd realize the contradictions you're tied up in and you'd surely you'd ask yourself, why the fuck am I defending Amazon?
	Like, why am I defending Joe Biden?
	Like, how is that your guy?
	At least with Trump, right?
	At least with all the things.
	So I never started as a Trump supporter.
	But I tell you what, at least with all the things with Trump, I can say I like the guy.
	You know, the guy I've got to defend.
	Yeah, he does stupid stuff.
	Oh, and thank God.
	He doesn't just tweet random stuff that I have to be like, oh, shit.
	You know, thank God.
	But at least at the end of the day, I support him and I like what he did.
	You know, what do you like that Joe Biden's doing?
	That the dumbass reactionaries agree with, especially in terms of Islam and like, I guess, government control or whatever.
	And just like denying COVID straight up every fucking episode.
	When they say follow the science, well, you're not following the science.
	Why don't you have Michael Osterholm on?
	Well, I guess he's never had him on ever.
	Oh, God, Hassan!
	Just Hassan treats science like received divine wisdom.
	The scientists have come down with the Ten Commandments on the tablets.
	Here you go, my son.
	This is set in stone forever.
	I must return to the heavens now, where I will continue to do my science.
	And Hassan's like, well, look, we got the religious tablets.
	What the fuck are you doing?
	Why would you deviate from this holy scripture?
	And the answer, Hassan, because I know you're too stupid to understand that was a joke, is that there is no sort of fixed science, and it's an iterative process that updates as it goes.
	And it turns out that Joe Rogan is right about the science and you're wrong.
	And you're referencing a period of time a year ago now when we literally didn't know what we know then.
	Now, then.
	Again, because I don't know, he likes this more probably.
	I assume he just likes this more.
	Because it reflects reality, Hassan.
	He can't be this fucking stupid, right?
	Like, he just probably benefits more from...
	Yeah, he followed and then unfollowed the science.
	Yeah, he literally was like, yeah, I was following the science.
	And then I decided to unfollow the science.
	You know, me and science are no longer friends on Facebook.
	He has so much money.
	He does whatever he wants.
	Yeah, but that was what was kind of wonderful about Joe Rogan is that like he had fuck you money and he had a level of comfort that like he didn't have to abide by the rules.
	He didn't have to suck up to anyone originally, but now it seems like...
	What?
	He's doing what?
	Like you're complaining that Spotify isn't censoring him, even though they did censor him.
	He's saying something that he believes to be true.
	He appears to be sincere in his belief that these things are true.
	And you're angry that he's doing the thing that you recommend he should do.
	Like, what is wrong with you?
	How have again, Hassan, you chose to put this on the internet.
	You chose to do that, right?
	You've created no coherent position here.
	And this is nothing less than a public embarrassment.
	And yet you still put it on the internet.
	I can only assume you did it for the money, right?
	I don't believe you have sincerely held convictions at this point.
	I think you're doing it for the money.
	I think you're being paid by one side to run defense for left-wing billionaires.
	That's what I think.
	Seems like he's constantly toe-sucking.
	He went from toe-sucking Milo Annopoulos and the like, all these fucking reactionary dumbasses because of Sam Harris and whatever, to toe-sucking Elon Musk and somehow becoming even dumber than before.
	Now it's like, if I want to hear all of the stupidest takes that Elon Musk has, I don't have to go to Reddit or I don't have to go to fucking Twitter.
	I can just hear it directly from Joe Rogan, which is so shitty.
	He's right closing beaches and parks is not following the science.
	The science has shown outdoor transmission is not an issue.
	Dude, you are so wrong.
	Oh, Hassan, just literally everyone around you is telling you you're wrong.
	Everyone, like the World Health Organization, Joe Rogan, the scientists, your own fucking chat is telling you you're wrong.
	How is it that you are so committed to this position to an emotional level that you can't back down?
	You'd be like, no, you're all unscientific.
	I, Hassan Pika, the science man, have declared it.
	Like, son, you don't know anything about this fucking subject.
	You know, literally, you didn't even do a Google search.
	You just.
	You're an embarrassment, Hassan.
	You are an embarrassing thing on the internet.
	And if I were, I felt like a left-wing bread tuber, I'd be like, yeah, okay.
	Like, I'm a bread tube, but I'm not like Hassan and Vorsch, where I just sit there and randomly look at Wikipedia and then say I know all the answers to everything.
	That is a terrible position to be in.
	Instance where, like, a specific area just automatically becomes a COVID-free zone.
	You're wrong.
	Outdoor transmission is still a problem.
	Comparatively, though, it is not as big as a risk as indoor dining or being indoors.
	You are so so locking people in their homes is bad.
	I agree.
	Finally, Hassan, you've got to a sensible position.
	You finally got to Joe Rogan's position.
	Don't just lock people in their homes.
	Actually spreads the virus quicker.
	So fucking incredibly wrong.
	I don't know why you could be so wrong.
	Well, I do know why you could be so wrong because of fucking people like Joe Rogan.
	Because they're all researchers and actual experts literally trying to get people to follow the science every fucking day.
	Name them, Hassan.
	Name them.
	Show the research.
	But you don't want to listen to them because they're fucking boring and they're nerds and they're telling you something.
	You are not only appealing to authority, but you're appealing to an authority that nobody can seem to identify.
	Like, whose position is this?
	Like, again, I'm going for the World Health Organization as an authority because I think you would accept it, but that's not their opinion.
	So whose opinion is this?
	Where does it come from?
	You don't want to hear it.
	So you'd rather listen to big ape man.
	Big ape man tell me.
	Outdoor, no risk.
	I has on.
	If we're if we're gonna be like looking at people pointing and saying, you look like an ape, you might want to throw that stone at another glass house, okay?
	Just saying, Hassan.
	Like, for the love of God.
	I do outdoor, no risk.
	Big ape man, tell me.
	Make me feel good.
	That's why you don't want to listen to the fucking epidemiologists who say, like, listen, outdoor.
	Which ones?
	Which ones?
	Outdoor protests were not gigantic clusters because when you're outdoors and if you're masked, then the likelihood of transmission is going to decrease.
	It's not going to diminish.
	Okay, but if you're outdoors and not masked, it's still very, very low, Hassan.
	Still low.
	So you agree.
	Outdoors doesn't transmit.
	So Joe Rogan is right that kids should be able to go to parks and play.
	People should be able to go to the beach and go, you know, play in the ocean or whatever.
	Outdoor dining is probably fine.
	If it's good enough for the Hollywood sex, it's surely good enough for the small business people.
	Is it not, Hassan?
	Diminish.
	It's not going to be zero.
	But there is still a percentage.
	That is still a very scientist.
	Problem is, when you open the fucking beaches, it's not people following the six-foot, you know, six-foot distance shit.
	It's not people hugging.
	You have to wear a mask shit.
	It's people literally packed on top of one another like idiots.
	So do you think parks should be closed?
	I just can't get over it.
	He's just so wrong.
	He's got nothing.
	He seems to be citing nothing.
	I mean, does he have citation?
	No, of course he doesn't have citations.
	Like, why?
	How can he get away with just asserting all of this stuff, presenting nothing to back up his position, and then just sit there and go, so yeah, I'm right.
	I, Dr. Hassan Pika, epidemiologist of the internet, have decreed this to be the case.
	I can't get over it.
	Close indefinitely?
	No, I don't.
	I don't think parks should be closed indefinitely.
	When should they open, Hassan?
	When?
	Oh, Lord, Hassan, will we be allowed to go outside and play in the parks with our kids again, Hassan?
	Please do tell us.
	Also, I'm pretty sure the parks are open right now.
	I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about, too.
	Don't worry, Hassan.
	You have a feeling that it's a certain way, and so that it is that way.
	We'll just take it as read, Hassan.
	You had a feeling.
	We won't check it.
	We won't look it up.
	We'll just carry on.
	Like, parks and beaches are open in California right now.
	No, not Disneyland, dude.
	What the fuck?
	See, this is why we can't have nice things.
	Do you want to know why?
	Because this is why.
	Because Disneyland is not a fucking park, okay?
	Disneyland has a multitude of indoor fucking areas, especially because, like, you still need to go out.
	You go through outdoor areas and then indoor areas, but you are literally around hundreds of fucking people, thousands of fucking people that are coming from all around the world in some cases.
	Yeah, that's the problem with supermarkets.
	It's the problem with lockdowns entirely, it seems, that concentrates people into one area.
	I mean, I actually agree with you that Disneyland probably would be a vector of transmission.
	I agree with you, Hassan.
	That's probably correct.
	But a small park outside, that's not the same thing, is it?
	It is literally a cluster.
	The difference is your local fucking park being open between Disneyland.
	That's why we can't have nice things.
	Okay.
	I say parks are open right now and the motherfucker goes, so what if we are not.
	If Disneyland isn't open, we can't have the parks open.
	What are you saying, Hassan?
	I was seeing, and it is absolutely horrifying, is that you let one side, the side that's speaking for lockdown, invoke science and say the science is lockdown.
	But the other scientists who are saying, no, not so fast.
	And those ones are not.
	Yeah, it's really frustrating because, you know, the scientists that are in charge of declaring this like a public health emergency all seem to have a consensus on like what to do.
	We also have, you know, examples of successful examples of, you know, cities, states, entire governments following the example set forward by those scientists.
	But then the chiropractor on my Facebook feed keeps telling me that it's all a lie.
	So I don't know which scientist to listen to.
	I mean, come on, why can't we listen to both sides of the COVID science?
	This is really genuinely frustrating.
	On the one hand, you have medical professionals and researchers who have dedicated their entire lives to this and also countries that are following their, you know, following their strategies and successfully mitigating COVID spread.
	And then on the other hand, you have, you know, sexy TikTok COVID doctor who is breakdancing while telling me that, you know, Bill Gates is going to put a demon semen in my bloodstream.
	I don't know which part of the science to believe in.
	The other part of this that, like...
	Okay, well, again, we'll just go for the World Health Organization, Hassan.
	What's the World Health Organization's position on lockdowns?
	These measures can have a profound negative impact on individuals, communities, and societies by bringing social and economic life to a near stop.
	Such measures disproportionately affect disadvantaged groups, if you care about such a thing, Hassan, including people in poverty, migrants, internally displaced people and refugees who most often live in overcrowded and under-resourced settings and depend on daily labor for subsistence.
	They recognize that at certain points, some countries have had no choice but to issue stay-at-home orders to buy time.
	Governments must make the most of this extra time, etc., etc., etc.
	And they do not wish for this to be the policy.
	This is bad.
	Why?
	Why?
	Why are you in favor of this?
	I have to bring up is the reality that almost every single one of these people that is running on the, you know, come on, open it up already, open it up already.
	Come on, the science is not clear on it.
	Almost every single one of the people that, like, straight up run with this propaganda right now used to say that the COVID numbers are fucking inflated.
	So why would we ever take them seriously?
	They literally were.
	They literally were.
	The Center for Disease Control cut.
	I can't remember the number, actually.
	I didn't watch this entire thing before I did this stream.
	It was thousands.
	And the NHS revised down, again, their number by thousands because the methods for collecting the data were a bit ad hoc, Hassan.
	And it's still ad hoc.
	I mean, like, in the UK, all of the numbers are, and you'll see this repeated in all of the media sources because they're very, very specific, because this is actually a really imperfect science.
	Death within 28 days of a positive COVID test.
	Now, you don't have to be a logician to know that that does not necessarily mean that they died from COVID.
	That is merely, if they died within 28 days of a positive COVID test, they are marked as a COVID death.
	This means we can guarantee, without a shadow of a doubt, that these numbers are higher than they otherwise would be had we been testing in a different way.
	And I don't blame them.
	I'm not angry at them.
	I'm sure they're doing their best.
	I'm sure that seems like the best way to try and get some metrics on the subject.
	But the assumption must be that these are actually going to be over rather than under because there are bound to be people who have died within 28 days of a test from reasons that are not COVID related, such as being hit by a fucking bus, Hassan, or possibly being forced to watch one of your videos.
	Okay?
	You are such a dunce.
	You are so...
	I honestly wonder if you finish school.
	I honestly do genuinely wonder.
	And I don't mean to be mean.
	It's just like how you could be so ill-informed on every subject you touch and yet, you know, and yet carry on putting this stuff on the internet without any shame or like humility or anything like that.
	I really would love to see a response to this.
	I want to hear your response so I can do a stream laughing at it, Hassan.
	Okay?
	So do me the honor of a response.
	Why should we ever take them seriously?
	I do not understand why the people that literally fucking ran with the COVID numbers and COVID deaths are inflated and it must be something else with no fucking reason as to where those numbers are coming from, by the way.
	Why was there such a gigantic increase in deaths?
	Inexplicable, of course.
	Why would we ever be charitable to those people?
	Like, why should we?
	If you're consistently fucking wrong, then why should we be charitable to well, Hassan?
	If you're so consistently fucking wrong, why should we be charitable to you?
	Because you are wrong.
	Consistently, why would we be charitable?
	What you are saying now.
	Yeah, Crowder was like the number one advocate for the COVID numbers are fake.
	worst thing that the government did was like look it's not it's not a conspiracy hassan Right?
	It's actually just a human limitation.
	Humans are fallible, limited things.
	And unfortunately, we work in a very imperfect world.
	It's not a conspiracy.
	It doesn't make anyone a bad person.
	Steven Crowder is not a bad person for pointing out that these figures are definitely higher than the actual figure like there's not that's not something you know to to be like a bad person Over.
	You know, why do you have this mindset?
	Why about masks in the beginning?
	Or at least, like, present.
	Well, when Fauci was saying, don't wear masks?
	When Pelosi was going hug a Chinaman in downtown Los Angeles or whatever it was, or San Francisco, wherever it was.
	Is that what that mask policy?
	Or the mask policy now?
	It's like, wear five masks.
	Cover every inch of your face like a fucking burqa.
	You know, which mask policy is the right one, Hassan?
	Because the same people are promoting different policies at different times.
	And false information about masks, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
	That was the worst fucking thing they could have done.
	And since then...
	Oh, that's the worst thing they could do, is it?
	Motherfuckers of like, motherfuckers who have literally made a killing lying about everything.
	Have you are doing that right now, seemingly been able to get their idiotic followers to literally continue advocating for, just mathematically, the wrongest fucking information that you can find, to then turn around and say well, Fauci's lied about masks.
	So there you go.
	Who would say Fauci lied about masks?
	We're saying this is projection, Hasan.
	Everything you say is projection.
	You are demonstrably factually wrong about everything you've said here and yet you are saying to your dumbass followers everything I, dr Hassan Pika, internet epidemiologist, says is true.
	It just happens to align with the defense of the power structures and screws the small businessman.
	Why yes, I am a socialist.
	How did you know?
	Honestly Hasan, you are.
	You are a public embarrassment like this.
	This is genuinely okay.
	It's not as funny as when you said that that the Us deserved 9-11.
	That was funnier.
	Honestly, that was actually funnier.
	But this is almost as funny.
	This is almost as dumb.
	Okay, there you go.
	All right.
	They were wrong.
	They were fucking wrong.
	And they've been right since like, you know, April of last year.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	Yeah, Fauci admitted to lying about masks to keep them for the frontline medical workers.
	I can understand why, because people are skeptical of what he says.
	Fair.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	That was part of the reason.
	Okay.
	And it is.
	And if you carry on down that line and start considering the facts of the matter rather than the narrative of the matter, you might find that actually, oh God, maybe there are a few questions to ask about Fauci.
	Fair to be upset about that.
	I think that is fair to be skeptical about that.
	But if that skepticism...
	Have you just BTFO'd yourself here, son?
	Does not extend to random guy, you know, brave truth teller, fuck my ass, chiropractor on your who the fuck are you talking about?
	Your fucking Facebook timeline, then you're not doing it right.
	If you're going to be skeptical of a government official who has dedicated his life to epidemiology and like, you know, mitigating these disastrous fucking pandemics and stopping the spread, you're going to be skeptical of that guy, but you're not going to be skeptical of the guy who's fucking putting on a nurse's outfit.
	So automatically he must be the foremost authority on this because he corresponds to your own personal biases?
	Like, what the fuck?
	Unbelievable, Hassan.
	That transphobia at the end there.
	But yeah, so I just thought I thought we'd watch this together because Hassan Pika's wrong about everything.
	Absolutely everything.
	So, folks, were you persuaded by Hassan Pika?
	Like I said, there are no super chats on or anything like that because obviously his channel's demanding.
	Oh, by the way, I finally got an email from YouTube about the monetization of this channel.
	They sent me two years, nearly two years after I appealed the demonetization of the channel.
	They were like, we're not going to monetize it because of policy violations.
	So I actually went back and went through every video that had some sort of policy violation, and I've deleted them.
	And so I'll reapply and see what they do.
	I'm sure they'll aware.
	I'm sure they'll tell me no.
	But it'd be quite amusing to get this remonetized.
	Not that I'm going to use anything, but it would just be interesting to see whether it's about me being a bad person, in their view, or whether it was about the fact that their algorithms were flagging things.
	So we'll see.
	We'll see.
	But yeah, anyway, I'm loving the super straight pride in the chat, by the way.
	The black and orange.
	We'll be talking about this on the podcast tomorrow.
	So that'll be good.
	V is watching.
	Oh, is V stream sniping me?
	V, god damn you.
	How dare you, Van.
	How dare you, sir?
	Well, you know, I need to assert dominance.
	Oh, yes.
	You've got your super chats on, don't you?
	Of course I got my super chat on.
	You gypsied me.
	How's it going, man?
	You know, you know, I really hate Hassan Piker because there's two types of people.
	There's the type of people that can work and the type of people that can afford to stay at home.
	And the ones that can stay at home, they're the ones wanting the lockdown measures to continue, while an army of minorities and the most impoverished go out in order to provide and keep the economy going for these people.
	And the thing is, like, Hassan is in such a privileged position here because he's going to have his four-bedroom LA mansion or whatever it is.
	And he's got no dependents.
	He's got no ties, nothing on him.
	And so he just sits, what's he doing?
	He sits there streaming, chomping into the microphone, stupid, after doing zero research and knowing nothing about the subject.
	And then you've got like poor working-class people who are literally shoved in these houses with kids who can't leave, aren't allowed to go to the park, can't go to school, and are bouncing off the walls, driving each other crazy.
	And I'm telling you, man, it's a real position of suffering to lock people up like that.
	It's been bad for my kids.
	And my kids have got a much more roomy house than most, well, at least a lot will have.
	So it's just like for Hassan to be sitting there going, yeah, but you know, the corporations, they need defending.
	I just, I just can't get over it.
	I just can't get over the optics of it.
	Why can't we have a referendum on it, though?
	Like, when's the last time we had a referendum?
	Because I remember when I was at law school, they kept praising the fact that the European Union has referendums and, you know, like the referendum is the heart of democracy.
	Why can't we have a referendum on this show?
	Wow, because people vote wrong.
	You know that.
	They watched the EU Brexit referendum and they were like, hmm, not going to have that again.
	You know, that needs to be fortified, doesn't it?
	Let's be fair.
	Can't be doing that.
	You know, it's interesting.
	Boris Johnson in the beginning had a plan to just keep the people that are with diabetes and obesity, you know, like the high-risk people.
	Those were to be kept indoors and everything else would be to normal.
	What happened to that?
	Like, why did he change his mind all of a sudden?
	I have no idea.
	No idea whatsoever.
	I think it's like when Boris Johnson got sick and then you have this scientist Ferguson, which said that tens of millions will die unless lockdowns happen.
	Yeah, Neil Ferguson.
	He was totally wrong on everything that he could be wrong on.
	And just for anyone who doesn't know, let me.
	I got James Dellingpole wrote an article for us recently about Neil Ferguson.
	Let me see if I can find it quickly.
	Because it's actually quite amazing just how wrong he is.
	Didn't the guy got his mistress sick with COVID?
	Like, he got COVID.
	Yeah.
	And then he had a mistress son, so he passed the disease on to her, and then she passed the disease on to her family.
	Yeah.
	So, so he modeled that like half a million would die in like the first month or something, which obviously nowhere near.
	It's completely wrong.
	But he's got this history of doing all of this wrong.
	So in 2001, he modeled foot and mouth.
	And on the basis of his dubious modeling, six and a half million cattle, sheep, and pigs were needlessly slaughtered.
	His modeling was subsequently described by Professor Michael Thrusfield of University of Edinburgh as severely flawed and not fit for purpose.
	And the same year, he got it similarly wrong on the number of people who would die of VCJD due to BSE and beef.
	Again, another thing.
	Ferguson predicted 136,000, and the actual figure was 2,800.
	And then the year 2005, he predicted that 200 million people would be killed by bird flu.
	The actual number of deaths was 616.
	And it's like, why the fuck is this guy given a plan?
	I mean, like, literally, a random number generator would likely give you a better and more accurate prediction than Neil Ferguson.
	Like, it's just amazing, right?
	And then, then, in 2005, in 2009, with the reasonable worst-case scenario, he predicted for swine flu deaths was 65,000 in the UK.
	The actual number was 457.
	Like, it's unreal how anyone listens to this guy.
	He is a charlatan, an absolute charlatan.
	He knows nothing.
	His models are wrong.
	And oh my god, I love getting this off my chest.
	You know what Thomas Saul said?
	He said that there's like that, there's intellectuals and then there's scientists.
	What was it?
	No, there are some ideas only an intellectual be dumb enough to believe.
	I think it was all well.
	And that's basically where we are now.
	You know, like 200 million people don't die.
	He said that the difference between like an engineer, right?
	He designs a bridge.
	And if the bridge collapses, then the engineer is getting fired or he faces legal charges.
	But then you have like intellectuals like this guy, Ferguson.
	And if his predictions don't come true, regardless of the damage they do to society, there's nothing that will happen.
	He is still an advisor for the UK government.
	He still advises.
	He got fired.
	I thought he got fired.
	Briefly, and then he was hired back again for some reason.
	And I just don't know why.
	I just cannot understand why the UK government lives.
	That's why.
	It has to be.
	But the thing is, like, and like he, you know, he's advocating all these harsh lockdowns, and then he breaks them to go and have an affair with a married woman or something.
	It's like, I mean, at the moment, we're living under sort of COVID Sharia.
	Like, you're not allowed.
	No, I'm not joking, right?
	You're not allowed to go on holiday.
	Holidays, Boris Johnson said this the other day: holidays are illegal, right?
	That's that's illegal.
	And another thing that's illegal is having sex with someone outside of your household.
	So if you're not already married or living with your long-term girlfriend, you're pulling my leg, man.
	No, I'm not joking.
	Google it.
	Google it.
	I promise you.
	It is illegal for you to have sex with someone who doesn't live in your household.
	Literally, COVID charges.
	I remember this weekend stupid that I did three weeks ago.
	Like the cops came in into this girl's house and they found the guy there.
	And like, apparently, he had no reason being there.
	So they arrested the guy.
	It's like, what do you mean?
	He had no reason being there.
	He had no reason to be there.
	And again, the face coverings, the fucking face coverings.
	I mean, like, literally, I've got a mask.
	I have to carry around a fucking mask in my pocket everywhere I go.
	Cover your face, whore.
	You know, it's like, what the fuck?
	Literally, COVID Sharia.
	Are you having sex with the wrong person?
	That's haram.
	The Muslim women have to mask up or is the burqa considered like that's a great question.
	One that I haven't yet asked, or at least had an answer to.
	That's a great question.
	Unless women are sufficiently masked.
	I think it's called a mask because it's like a piece of cloth over their head over their face.
	So like the Muslim woman, like nothing changes for them.
	They're probably like, oh, quarantine was that.
	Yeah, well, what's the difference?
	You know, I'm allowed out of the house to go to the shop for essential things.
	I mean, what were they doing?
	Go to the hairdressers?
	You know, like, were they spending a lot of time there?
	Were they prior to the lockdowns?
	Did you have the cops like looking at your shopping bag to see what's essential and what isn't?
	Only in Wales, and I think it was in Scotland as well, where literally in Wales, right?
	They would allow you to go to the supermarket, but unironically taped up certain sections of the supermarket that contained non-essential goods.
	And so like your kids, you'd walk past the aisle of toys and there'd be literally, you know, strips all over it saying you don't touch this.
	And so you'd be like, yeah, see those toys, kids?
	Yeah, we can't buy those.
	We're going to buy the thing right next to the toys, but that would spread COVID.
	It's fucking unreal.
	Can you imagine?
	I know it's your birthday, little Timmy, but tough shit.
	The government has said so.
	So like if, well, no, I guess you can get the toys from Amazon, right?
	Because that's fine.
	But like, if you have like three or four kids.
	You can't support a small business, you know?
	Jesus fucking Christ.
	Like what I don't get is that the EU was angry that I believe.
	Did you see that article that the EU is angry at Germany and Hungary for taking way too extreme lockdown measures?
	No, I didn't actually.
	Why?
	What did they do?
	Yeah.
	Did they do a Hassan Pika?
	But by the way, did you see that picture where you have like this street in London that used to be really crowded, but now it's completely empty?
	The businesses are shut down and the only thing that is there is the pristine rainbow.
	The street in London that was, I think it was a street.
	Oh no, maybe it was.
	But yeah, you saw that from me posting it.
	But yes.
	I'll see if I can find it.
	I posted it in my Gab.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	Well, I don't follow you on Gab, but it's like a meme right now.
	It's going around on Twitter.
	That's because it is the ashes of civilization that we live in.
	It's mad.
	Let me find it.
	I've got it.
	And it really is.
	It's got this genuine sort of post-apocalyptic vibe to it.
	The only person that's in that picture is a police officer.
	No, no, I think I'm thinking of a different one.
	The one I'm thinking of is empty.
	But why can't I...
	There we go.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	Sorry, I've got it.
	Did you find it?
	I did find it.
	Are you still streaming?
	Like, is it on your stream?
	I am still streaming.
	All right.
	I mean, I'm going to show it on my stream as well.
	Yeah, so people can see it.
	So you've got like the Elephant's Head Pub, Vintage London, all of these things all shut down, all looking grimy and disheveled.
	Like there's toilette signs, there's rubbish on the streets.
	There's a cop in the right side.
	No, no, I'm not.
	I don't think it's a cop.
	I think it's an essential worker doing something.
	But then you have, of course, the rainbow crossing, which is freshly painted, looks pristine, and that's the death of Western civilization right there, isn't it?
	That's what it looks like.
	Well, I mean, it shows that the ideology is the only thing that matters.
	It does.
	And there is another story about a guy apparently left some track marks on a rainbow sidewalk and the police are after him.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, let me show you the article.
	I'll post it in it.
	But yeah, I mean, when I read that, it's like, what the fuck?
	Do the cops have nothing else to worry about?
	Like, have they fixed all the issues?
	Well, yeah, because when you confine everyone to their homes, there's literally no crime that goes on.
	What are they going to do?
	Leave?
	Like, burglaries have gone straight down because, I mean, what are you going to do?
	Break into someone's house?
	Everyone's in there.
	You know they're in there all the time.
	Yeah, I mean, I suppose you're absolutely right.
	Well, I guess the only people that can go out are the BLM protesters.
	I guess so.
	Yeah, like, why did you have BLM protesters in the UK?
	I mean, that's a United States issue, you'd think.
	I mean, is it even a United States issue?
	Like, one guy in Minnesota dies.
	Let's just give him, like, I'm not even going to say this is the correct narrative, but let's say you believed that Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd.
	Let's say you believe that.
	How is that a US issue?
	You know, there's going to be someone in Alaska going, what the fuck are you talking about?
	I don't know.
	You know, how is that like the next city over?
	How is that their business?
	You know, it's nothing to do with them.
	It's like, what?
	some cop in a different city killed some guy and and why does that what what You know, and yet here we are, like, countries later, like, with them going, yes, so, you know, the Welsh Arts Council needs a picture of George Floyd.
	The fuck are you doing?
	Do you know there were BLM protesters in Ukraine, right?
	I'm not kidding!
	Like, I think...
	How many...
	I'm looking this up.
	How many black people?
	I think they got arrested, actually.
	They got arrested for disturbing the peace.
	I think you're right.
	Life as a black Ukrainian.
	Yes.
	Afro-Ukrainians, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's the Kivliv pro Ukraine's global voice, Black Lives Matter.
	But like, how many, how many black people?
	I'm telling you this, there are probably more white people than black.
	Like, there are no statistics.
	me i'm just looking at the demographics of the ukraine because like there's no specific statistics i can find on black oh Oh, I can tell you, like, if a black person goes to Ukraine, people will freak out.
	They'll think like the Russians invented a new chemical weapon that takes people black.
	One of the things that came up is, is it safe for a black person to visit the Ukraine?
	Which, I mean, I don't know.
	But let me see if I can find demographics.
	I'm going to do a Hassan Piker and just pull up the Wikipedia.
	Is he doing that as well?
	This is all BreadTube does.
	Why not?
	Right.
	Here's the question while you're looking at it.
	Is there a single right-winger on Twitch?
	God, I don't know.
	They've probably got policies explicitly against it.
	I mean, what kind of person uses Twitch?
	Right, so I finally found a post-World War II demographic breakdown of Ukraine from the 2001 census.
	So apparently, you've got 37 million Ukrainians, 8 million Russians, 200,000 Belarusians, Moldovans, Tatars, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians, Poles, Jews, down to below 100,000.
	You've got Armenians, Greeks, Tatars, Romani, Azerbaijanis, Georgians, Germans, Gagaus.
	I don't even know what ethnic group that is.
	Carol rights, and then others, 300,000 just other.
	So at some point of that other group, so I mean, that's 0.3% of the population, and a percentage of that, assuming, presumably, is black.
	So, right.
	Black Lives Matter Ukraine.
	Yes, there was another country.
	I think it might have been Moldavia.
	Oh, yeah, but there are loads of black people in Moldavia.
	There were like six students, like six BLM protesters, and they got arrested by the cops for disturbing the people.
	Or were they like the London ones where the BLM protesters were all white?
	I think like I could see a couple of black people in London, though.
	There are plenty of black people.
	No, no, but there are plenty of black people in London.
	But the BLM protesters were all white people.
	Like they barricaded like Heathrow Airport and stuff like this.
	It's just a bunch of white students.
	Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Those weren't BLM protesters.
	Those were protesting against climate racism or something like that.
	Like racist climate change.
	Hang on.
	I think you're wrong.
	No, no, no.
	It's like the airplanes taking off were influenced by the people.
	I'm just going to destiny you here and do some quick Google foo.
	And they were Black Lives Matter protesters.
	Yeah, the Guardians literally in 2017 reported them as being nine Black Lives Matter protesters guilty over Heathrow disruption.
	And you can assume they're just white.
	They're all just white people.
	You know, the communists would have arrested them for subverting the economy of the state.
	Based communists.
	Well, I just want to make a video.
	Suppress them.
	Yeah, I want to make a video saying that the communists were far right by their standards.
	I mean, the communists have very strong border control.
	They were anti-abortion.
	No, I'm not kidding.
	Okay.
	No, I know.
	I know.
	Very, very, very socially conservative, shall we say.
	Like, you look at the propaganda of communists.
	It's just like buffed white people.
	You know, like the worker is like this buffed white person that's like got a hammer in his hand.
	Yep.
	Anyway, I'm going to end the stream.
	I'm not going to necessarily go off, but I'm going to end the stream and go get a drink and stuff.
	But yeah, just nice to have a bit of a hangout, really, isn't it, folks?
	But thank you.
	Thank you all for joining me.
	I hope you've had some fun at Hassan Pika's expense because, I mean, someone's got to.
	Like, does anyone watch these people?
	Tell me in the chat if you watch any of this stuff.
	Because I've occasionally, like, I'll watch a clip every now and again.
	And the only person I like is Destiny because you can tell he's about to leave the BreadTube community because they keep saying really dumb things that don't reflect reality.
	And so I've been kind of becoming a Destiny fanboy of late.
	But yeah, let me know, folks.
	I watch Vosh.
	He's my guilty pleasure.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	I even gave him a super chat.
	I gave him like a.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Why is that?
	Well, I want him to be popular.
	I think everyone should hear what Vosh has to say.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	When people think left-wing politics, I want them to think Vaush every time.
	Let's be the only person that's...
	The avatar of left-wing politics should be this fat, sweaty nerd who sat there talking about lowering the age of consent and how he likes fantasizing about horse cock.
	That's...
	That's what I truly believe.

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