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April 25, 2019 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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Sargon of Akkad Sky News Segment
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It's on when he told our political correspondent Kate McCann that he thought it was okay to joke about rape.
Woohoo!
In an exclusive interview, he sat down with Kate again and their discussion includes some offensive language.
Jared Batten, when I spoke to him and I asked him about some of the remarks that you've referenced, some of the controversial things that you've said before, he said that one of the reasons why he's happy for you to be a candidate is because you have a huge social media presence.
Are you worried that the party is using that, is using your platform, and that's why they want you as a candidate?
I should hope they're using my platform.
That's what it's there for.
They didn't come to us, we went to them because we, the YouTubers, me, Mark Meachin, and Paul Joseph Watson who joined, we're very tired of sitting on the sidelines and we feel that we are not being represented by modern politics and I think a lot of people feel that way.
And I think it's because the standards for entry are so high that some communities just don't get any representation at all, especially with the first parts of the post-voting system.
So no, I'm very glad that they see the help that we can give them and are very happy to stand by us because of it.
There's one particular case that I would like to put to you.
Just if only humour me just to satisfy my uncle.
I'm afraid I'm not going to humour you on that.
I'm really sorry.
But I've had this discussion with many different journalists now, many different outlets, and I do have to stress that this is literally a pathology that you guys care about.
If I put out a video four years ago and said something you didn't like, well, I'm sorry.
If I put out a tweet four years ago and said something you didn't like, I don't care.
I want to talk about the issues.
I'm not here to talk about what I've said that is a crime against political correctness.
I hate political correctness.
But how do voters, if they know about you and your views, how do they confirm what your views currently are and decide whether they would like to vote for you if I'm not able to ask you about those views?
Did I not say that I've had hundreds of millions of views on my YouTube channel?
They can just type into Google Sargon of a CAD and they'll find my channel and they can watch from themselves.
I'm a regular person.
I've said lots of things in the past that are jokes, are satire, are irony laden and honestly I don't think you are into internet culture enough to really understand it.
And it's not your fault, it's its own kind of culture, just like Westminster.
It's its own kind of culture.
But I'm not going to explain myself.
It's all out there on the internet.
I haven't deleted a thing.
It's all there.
People can go and watch everything I've said in context.
And there's hundreds and hundreds of hours, thousands of videos I've made over the last six years.
And they can go and watch all of that.
If you are elected, what are you elected there to do?
What's your most important role?
That's a question for the ages for any MEP, really, isn't it?
Because there isn't an awful lot that they can do.
They're kind of the creatures of the European Commission.
But I think that my role would be to essentially be the tip of the spear when it comes to breaking through the shield of political correctness.
UKIP's main message in these elections is Brexit.
It's that we will deliver Brexit for you.
Of course.
And, you know, UKIP, by many accounts, was the party that delivered the referendum.
So it's an incredibly important message.
And then what you've just said was nothing to do with Brexit.
Was it not?
Where do you stand on the market?
Is there no politically correct narrative around Brexit?
Well, you tell me, is there?
Of course there is.
You have a politically correct narrative about everything.
You live in a world of political correctness, in a world of words as well.
I find very interesting.
It's a group of people in Westminster who live in a world of words, not deeds.
And I'm not that kind of person.
I live in a world of deeds, not words.
So, yes, you have a politically correct narrative around Brexit.
But do you think you all...
People didn't vote to be poorer.
No, they voted to leave.
Damn the consequences.
Do you think your Comments in the past end up detracting from your message.
Do they end up detracting from that message?
I don't know.
I seem to have used them to get quite a lot of media attention that otherwise I might not have had.
Who knows?
Maybe they were vital to me being here now and being talking to you.
So it helps.
Maybe.
Certainly helped me grow a large YouTube channel, didn't it?
But at the same time, there are people who are deeply offended by some of the things that you said.
Well, I tell you what, they can go and have a cry, and when they've collected themselves and they're ready to talk like an adult about the issues and not bring up things that they think might be offensive and spread them around the country to people who might be offended by them, then we can have a sensible conversation about the issues.
And you think that that's an acceptable and appropriate message?
I think that the adults at home don't need me to comfort them or baby them.
They need me to talk about certain issues that are not being talked about by progressive gatekeepers.
So I don't have conversations.
Tell me how the polling looks in your area.
I actually haven't checked the regional polling.
I've been too busy on the road, to be honest.
Okay.
What's your prospect for winning in your school?
Well, honestly, I don't think it's too bad.
I mean, if we're going by the previous surrounds polling, I mean, it's obviously going to be everything's in flux at the moment.
So, you know, nothing, I honestly don't know if any of the polls are accurate.
I mean, the polling wasn't accurate about Brexit itself, the referendum.
It wasn't accurate about Donald Trump.
It's not been accurate very much about a lot of things.
And who knows why?
It could be that people just start telling the pollsters what they really think or something.
Who knows?
Give me your top five policy offers.
What's your top five on the doorstep?
Well, actual policy.
I mean, what can an MEP even propose?
Well, I mean, you heard one of your current MEPs on the stage at the launch describing how he has a particular interest in agriculture, and so he advances those policies at every agricultural meeting.
So what would be your top five policies on the doorstep?
Yeah, okay, yeah.
So it's more about social issues that I think aren't being spoken about.
I think really there's a kind of log jam that's being caused by political correctness.
I think it's kind of a dam that's about to burst.
And I think we're going to end up with some pretty nasty characters if we don't just move those logs ourselves.
Because you're going to get some really rough types who are going to come out of the woodwork and do nasty things.
You have a video where you call Chinese people chinks.
And by all accounts, that's racist.
Words have meaning, and you don't know what the meaning of that word was.
You don't know what the context was, what the narrative of it is.
That's the point.
It's broadly accepted as a racist term.
Yeah, I know.
That's why I used it.
But then you accept that it is racist.
Because I'm an entertainer.
Yeah, racism to me, personally, I find racism, racist jokes, funny, right?
But you just said that this country isn't a racist country.
I know, that's why they're funny.
If it was a racist country, it wouldn't be funny.
Because it would be actual racial oppression, but this is not what Britain is like.
Like, there was a survey done where they asked you, would you be okay to live next to a person of a different race?
In this country, it was less than 1% who said, no, I wouldn't be okay with that.
In France, it was 20%.
I wouldn't go to France and make those jokes because that would be a serious deal.
But in this country, racism is just not a problem.
It's a pathology of the radical left to continually worry about racism.
I think generally, it's a way of essentially escaping responsibility for actually failing to tackle the issues.
So making those comments is okay?
Yes, if they're jokes.
You can make jokes about anything.
Ask someone like Frankie Boyle or David Bediel.
Ricky Gervais.
These people have long defended making offensive jokes.
It's a long-standing British tradition.
I can't even believe you would ask me if it's okay to joke about dark things.
Yes, of course it is.
Everyone thinks that.
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