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April 24, 2019 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
08:46
#Bristol Debates： The EU's Destruction of British Fishing Industry
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Hi, what's your name?
Rhys.
It's a pleasure to speak to you.
Oh, thank you.
What was your question?
So I'm from the north of England, specifically Scarborough, an area that votes to leave because of fishing.
I want to know what UKIP will do once Brexit is said and done with for the north of England specifically.
Well, I'm running in the south of England.
I know the expertise is just in general.
Anything that to do with farming will be transversion.
I'm not actually an expert on what UKIP's plan to do for the north, but I've got no doubt that they will be trying to subsidise our farmers to make sure that we're not out-competed just by other farmers around the world.
I'm sure there are going to be tariffs put on grain imports or something like that, and then none put on their own.
And obviously, they're going to restore the fishing industry because this was a multi-billion pound industry that was completely decimated by the European Union.
Everyone knows this.
Everyone knows this.
Especially the people from the northeast coast.
I saw the amount of boats in Scarborough slowly diminish over time.
It's ridiculous.
It's exactly the same in the southwest, actually.
All of the famous, and I mean like historically famous port cities that are just wastelands now, you know, boarded up waterfronts and all this sort of stuff.
And it really, it really does speak to a sort of recession of confidence in the culture.
These things used to be booming.
I mean, I lived in New Key for three years, and you can see the change.
And that was a tourist place.
It's still alive because of the tourism.
But there's nothing else there now.
You know, there's no point going there unless you want to go and get drunk in a bar.
That's why I'm here.
I mean, it's just for work, because there's nothing up there.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's terrible.
And again, it's not that the people there are lazy or stupid, it's that no one's investing.
And the thing is, it's so annoying because everything's so much cheaper up there as well because of this.
It's so much cheaper.
Your money goes way further.
I can buy a round for 10 quid up there down there, it's at least 15.
Yeah, it's incredible, isn't it?
You know, I was up there a while ago and I bought a sandwich and I just couldn't believe that it was so cheap.
And honestly, I got over to checks.
I thought she made a mistake.
And it's just like, no, this can't be right.
And same to house prices as well.
But yeah, so I mean, honestly, I wish I could give you a more detailed answer, a more detailed answer, but I'm not the policy expert in that regard.
No, no, no.
But I can honestly tell you that this is definitely, I mean, you want to speak to someone like Mike Hookham for this.
He is the real expert.
He's a Yorkshire lad.
Yeah.
And he's stolid as they come.
And he is absolutely committed to doing something positive for the North.
It'll make a nice change.
Absolutely.
I mean, like, you know, after what Thatcher did in the 80s, like, I don't necessarily disagree with Thatcher on many principled positions, but the way that she did what she did was unsympathetic.
It was uncaring.
It was brutal, in my opinion.
And it should have been handled with more grace.
And I think there is definitely a lot of, there are probably a lot of incentives that can really help things move back to the north because everything is so London-centric.
London is like a black hole that sucks people in.
And when you actually go there, you realise all of the people there are basically vipers.
None of them are honest.
Not one of them are honest.
Like all of the journalists that I was bitching out and they were pretending to be so offended, afterwards they came up, shook my hand and talked to me like I was just some regular Joe on the street and it's like I'm angry with you assholes.
Don't you understand?
You know, I think you lie about me constantly.
You're constantly saying like in the Independent the other day, Jared Band shouldn't be allowed on TV.
Oh yeah, very, very, very liberal, The Independent, and things like this.
And they're constantly trying to get our YouTube channels shut down and get us banned off social media.
They're mass campaigns and they all do it.
And yet they'll just talk to you like to your face.
Like they aren't trying to ruin you.
These people are actual vipers and they are a real problem.
We've got to stop just get off the legacy media.
They are the worst.
There's so much going on that's like citizen based rather than like elite based in London.
And just get get out of the major cities.
They're awful.
You can do most things via the internet these days.
Do it that way.
Yeah, I honestly I wish I could give you more details.
Do you mind if I ask something else then?
Yeah of course yeah.
What's your opinion on the benefit system?
I think that it's something that is morally necessary but practically poorly implemented.
Yes, I agree.
I went for the DWP.
Right, really?
So what do you think of the benefit system then?
I think that has benefited some people very much so, and it has definitely made people worse in the pocket in other cases.
So specifically, I do universal credit.
I'm sure people know about just on the news talking about it.
I think to people all day on the firms, there are people that have benefited from it because of just the way that it works.
But there's some people that run ESA, so Planet 12, that are just straight up getting less money now because they're being forced onto universal credit.
Yeah.
So poorly managed and not really doing the job it's supposed to do.
It does do the job if people do the job properly.
There are, I don't want to badmouth any people that work, but there have been cases where it is just human error.
Something has gone wrong on the human side.
But human error you can't account for, can you?
I mean, everyone, we're human.
make errors um but it's it's the it's i don't know i'm i mean the problem with it is that there are definitely and i've lived in lots of poor communities you know when i When I left university, I dropped out of university because I was doing computer science and I hated it.
And I ended up going from middle-class university student right down to working in just shops and in any job I could get.
Putting in asbestos buddy lining in, not asbestos, some other kind of lining in lofts and things like this.
It was years ago that used to do this.
And you end up living in shared housing on council estates and stuff like that.
And you hear young ladies say things like, well, I'm not going to get a job.
I'm just going to get pregnant.
And the government will give me a house.
You know, the Tories had to cap that at $25K a year because it was something exploitable.
And at the end of the day, I mean, we agree, morally, we can't just let these things happen.
But there are also, the other side of the coin, there are people who exploit that and take advantage of it and are making things worse.
Because then children raised out of wedlock by a single parent.
I'm a parent, I have two kids.
Man, if I had to do that on my own, it would be insane.
It would be a nightmare.
And the damage, the sort of emotional damage it would do to the children, I think is the real problem.
I think it's irresponsible to deliberately have children out of wedlock to try and get money from the government.
I mean, I don't see how else you can describe it.
I'm not trying to be unsympathetic, but there is a hard and cold reality here that we have to look in the face.
And if you look at, say, all the stabbings in London, one of the key things that has been a recurring pattern, and again, I hate to cite David Lammy.
I'm quoting a lot of Labour MPs here.
Diane Abbott, then David Lammy, but in 2012, he was right.
He was like, well, the one thing we're not talking about is fatherlessness in these communities.
Because I do think that young men need strong male role models in order to know how to behave.
And if they don't, they fall into really quite degenerate behaviors where they're in gangs and they end up fighting as if they're living in some tribe or something and having turf wars with one another.
This isn't how we can do it in the modern civilized West.
And this is not like a racial question.
This happened in Glasgow with white youth.
This happens in America.
It happens everywhere.
It happens just when young men are failed.
And in fact, there is actually an African proverb that if young men are not initiated into the tribe, they'll come back and burn down the village.
And I think that's the sort of thing that we're seeing now, this kind of attitude where young men do feel disenfranchised and they don't like the way that, frankly, the system is treating them and pathologizing them, treating them as if they are toxic because they are male.
You've probably heard a phrase called toxic masculinity bandied around by the great and good.
But it's not helping these young lads.
And then when you look at all the statistics, the lowest earning and least achieving group of people in this country are Roma travelers because they deliberately segregate themselves from wider society.
But next above them are working class white men by a long way.
And then not far above them, a middle class white men.
And then you start going through all the other groups and you find that people like Asians and Indians are right at the top there because they have no, no, because Jewish people, they have strong family structures, they have commitment to education, and they have a commitment to hard work.
These are just three sensible things that anyone can do.
And these groups do these things.
They're common culture within these groups.
And the results are shown for themselves.
If we're in a white supremacy, why are non-white people doing the best?
You know, just answer that question.
You just have to square that circle.
So I hope that helps.
Just to further onto your point, I would say the vast majority of people that I speak to on the phone are single mothers and single men who are in 40s and open with mental health problems.
Biggest demographic by far.
And most of the people that are presumably not white tend to be in families and have children.
There we go.
So you're absolutely right.
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