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April 1, 2019 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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The Jordan Peele Fanclub
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Jordan Peele is of course an incredible filmmaker.
Oh of course he is.
Now that he's decided to take a nice big steaming shit on white people, the young Turks think that Jordan Peele's an amazing filmmaker.
I mean get out was actually kind of mediocre but at least it was something different and I guess you can give him credit for that.
It's not the same old same old being made by Hollywood.
So I guess that's good.
I guess he's a revolutionary legendary filmmaker now.
And the latest movie that he's behind us is doing really well in the box office.
And that definitely means that there's a good film.
I mean it's not like the Transformers movies have grossed like a billion and a half at the box office despite the fact that every single one of these films is total shite.
Recently he was speaking to students at the Upright Citizens Brigade in Hollywood and he said something about his casting choices that has struck a nerve with some people.
Oh yeah, but I guess if it was something that was said by a white director about black people, nobody would have battened either.
They would have gone, well obviously.
But go on then, what did he say?
So he says, I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie.
Not that I don't like white dudes, but I've seen that movie.
Hmm.
Well, I can see what the problem is.
I mean, that's honestly, that's how I feel about black movies.
I don't watch black movies because I've seen that movie.
Yeah, you know, a movie with a black person in it.
I've seen it.
I've seen it.
Like, you can say, well, what about Boys in the Hood?
I'm like, I've seen it.
What about Black Panther?
And I'm like, well, I've seen it.
And normally people are like, yeah, but you haven't actually seen those films, have you?
And I'm like, well, okay, not those particular films.
But I watched Blade when I was like 17.
So I've seen that movie.
You know, because it had a black guy in it.
And it's all the same, really, isn't it?
He continues to say, the way I look at it, I get to cast black people in my movies.
I feel fortunate to be in this position where I can say to Universal, I want to make a $20 million horror movie with a black family.
And they say yes.
I can't think of a time where I haven't watched movies with black people in them.
I mean, I'm just going through the list of my favorite movies like Predator, Demolition Man, Starship Troopers.
Just all of my favorite films when I was growing up had black people in them, but I just didn't really think about it because the focus of the characters was never that they were black.
But I suppose when you're a black identitarian and you're casting movies and you're like, well, you know, I'm not casting a white person in my movie or as the lead in my movie because obviously why would I?
I'm just sat here scratching my head thinking, well, okay, is that the rule, is it?
I mean, I don't want that to be the rule.
It's not the way I would do things.
But if that's the way that Hollywood is going to be run these days, then I'm going to have to be a little more discerning about where I spend my dollars, metaphorically, because I don't want to support racists.
And so the reaction to this has been hilarious.
Before we get to the reaction, I want to open it up to you guys.
So, God, here we go.
Here's going to be a big-brained intervention by Jank.
Go on, tell us about what happens when white people are in movies, Jank.
First of all, when white people were the stars in movies, the rationale that the studios used, so-called liberal Hollywood, which in fact financially was deeply conservative, and all of the right wing said, was, hey, look, man, that's what makes money.
Sorry, if black people made money, then all the stars would be black.
What are you talking about?
What are you on about?
When have black people not had leading roles in movies?
What about like Independence Day?
Oh my God, Jenk.
Like, what are you going back?
Are you going to mention Birth of a Nation?
How far back are you going in filmmaking history to find whatever it is you're talking about?
And Jenky, you know that Jordan Peele isn't the only director in Hollywood, right?
I mean, you know that white people are still going to be cast in movies, as well as black and Mexican and other races of people are still, they're still going to be cast in movies.
Well.
Well, I got good news for you.
Black people now make more money in movies.
Movies directed by black people, movies starring black people.
Wow.
I feel like you're talking about your dog, Jank.
I feel like you're talking about a pet of yours.
Isn't your pet doing well?
Look at him.
He's doing great.
See, your pet sucks.
That's how this comes across, Jank.
So you got, first of all, we already knew it, but it was Hollywood's entrenched conservative nature.
And I'm being polite in using those words.
Hollywood's entrenched conservative nature.
What are you on?
What entrenched conservative nature?
How can you call Hollywood a bastion of conservatism?
What kind of lunatic are you?
How far to the left are you if you think Hollywood is conservative?
That led them to not having black star in movies when it was obvious.
What?
When?
When did they not star in movies, Jank?
How far back are you going?
How?
How many decades ago do we have to go back to a time when blacks didn't star in movies?
Or are we going to start bringing up Al Jolson or something?
Look, Medea would make these movies.
The Medea series were made for like a dollar and a half and they'd all make unbelievable amounts of money.
They're like, Yeah, that's a great point, Jenk.
Yeah, I'm looking up on Wikipedia.
It's like 2005 to like 2019, apparently.
I've never even heard of this.
But yeah, this is just one example of black people in cinema who make money, who have been cast because nobody is actually holding them down.
What are you on?
When you say they?
Who are they who are saying, oh, this is nonsense?
Oh, no, no, no.
Ignore the audience.
Ignore the audience.
A movie studio.
So successful.
So the Medea series is unreal to begin with.
I was thinking, Jesus, how do I get in the movies?
Because if you make movies that star black people, it's going to make unreal money, right?
Jank, you talk about black people as if they are something separate to you and yours.
As in whatever you consider yourself to be in your community, whoever you consider to be ours, you talk about black people as if they're theirs.
And you talk about making movies about black people, starring black people with black people, as if you will be exploiting them.
You sound remarkably like a plantation owner trying to explain to them that, no, no, no, look, these blacks work way harder than these Irish.
So get the blacks and we're going to make loads of money.
That's how you sound to me, Jank.
So finally, they do Black Panther.
Do you think that's like the first successful movie with black people in?
Because conservative Hollywood, which I'm sure you would term white, is somehow trying to keep them down.
And it breaks all the records.
And they're like, oh, yeah, maybe we should try that again, right?
And then obviously Jordan Peel has these two giant breakout hits.
And so, right wing, you shouldn't be triggered at all by this.
No one cares that Jordan Peel is a successful filmmaker.
I'm sure that if you asked right-wingers about it, they'd probably say something like, well, good for him.
Does he have to assume that all white people are the same, though?
And is there any particular reason that he's intending on discriminating against white people as a race?
From the impression that I've got from dealing with American conservatives, if David Duke started making films and came out and said, well, look, I'm not going to hire black people because I've seen that movie, they'd have the same response.
You should go, hey, free market, baby.
Free market.
No.
It turns out black directors make more money.
Black stars make more money.
I can't have a white guy in my movie.
He'll take the movie.
Jenk.
Can you name the person that you think you're impersonating, please?
I would love to know whose opinion you think you are representing here.
I need black actors so we can make some real money in this house.
Because Jenk views black actors as a cash cow.
Jenk views black people as a means of making money.
Don't worry about the artistic integrity of telling authentic, interesting, and original stories.
Oh, no.
Jenk thinks those black people are going to make him some money.
You know what?
Hey, I live like a capitalist every day, Jenk.
Okay, I gotta have black stars.
I really want to know who Jenk thinks he's talking to.
I have no idea what kind of person that he thinks he is talking about.
And I don't think he's ever met anyone with any opinions anywhere like this.
So I wanted to make sure that I chose people who were at least verified.
Well, I'm really glad you did, Anna, because that's how we know that we're going to get some really good takes on this.
And here's one of them.
The hilarity of this.
What is black privilege, you ask?
Imagine a white director saying this.
Jordan Peel, I don't see myself casting a white dude as my lead in my films.
Well, let's take five seconds to quickly engage with that, Anna.
If a white person said, I don't ever see myself casting black actors in my films because I've seen that movie, that would be his career over, wouldn't it?
That would be it.
He'd be drummed out of Hollywood.
There would be an unbelievable lynch mob forming on social media.
And every single tie that he has to any kind of career prospect would be severed within the day, wouldn't it, Anna?
So a lot of these people shared the Daily Wire article on this, and Daily Wire is, of course, a conservative outlet, but really understand what.
Bullshit.
You know exactly what the problem is here.
It's black and white, if you will.
But now you're going to have to come up with some kind of convoluted and absolutely nonsensical excuse to say why it's okay when you do it.
So go ahead.
Like, there is a difference, right?
There is a difference.
So if you have a white filmmaker saying, I would not cast a black person or black character as my lead, well, then, first of all, it's business as usual.
Is it business as usual?
Is it business as usual, Anna?
Because that's really weird, because I would have thought, I would have sworn that there have been loads of black actors, loads of black characters, and loads of black leads.
They just conveniently disappear when you need to justify a black person's racism against white people.
Right.
They've been saying that.
Yeah.
It just weren't quoted in an interview, but their actions, they have absolutely been saying that since the beginning of our film industry.
Who?
Who?
Name the culprit.
Name the culprit and then explain how there are any famous black actors.
How could you say this?
This is such obvious, demonstrable nonsense.
there is constant push for quote unquote diversity and no one's against it.
I mean, God, what are you?
Sorry, go on.
Go on.
You're making up total horseshit.
And again, you've got to go right back to the very beginning of filmmaking to find any kind of examples.
But carry on.
And Brooke, sometimes they do even say.
So when they have white actors play Asian roles, for example, from time to time, they go, what can I do?
There aren't enough Asian actors that are successful enough.
That would be a big enough box office drawer.
So I had to put white people in it.
Yeah, weirdly enough, there aren't that many Asian people in the West.
Most of them are in Asia.
But I'll tell you what, if you go to like Japan or Bollywood or anything like that, they don't have very many white actors, Jenk.
You'd feel really at home there.
You'd feel like everything was going great.
There would be hardly any white people around.
You'd be very happy.
Well, why are you not triggered by that?
Why isn't Daily Wire writing an article about that?
Well, I would guess it's because the people who are casting like the gods of Egypt or something.
I didn't see it, but it had white actors playing Egyptians in it.
So I would assume it's because the people who cast it didn't say, Look, we are just not going to hire Egyptians.
We're not going to do it.
We are, in principle, not going to do it because we've seen that movie, blah, blah, blah.
They presumably did it just because they're famous Hollywood celebrities and they knew they would be a draw.
Because the controversy here is not that there are black actors in movies.
It's Jordan Peel's demonstrable bigotry against white people jank.
Well, we know why.
Oh, do we know why, Anna?
Why don't you, uh, why don't you tell us?
Why don't you tell us why?
We're all waiting.
That curly wig on Angelina Jolie had her play a black woman that one time.
Do you remember that ridiculous movie?
It was in that movie.
I forgot.
I think it was a true story, too.
Yeah, but I've no idea, but I know that Hollywood has cast black men as Vikings before.
So let's say that we're all even now and we'll all stick to racially appropriate castings.
How about that?
I mean, look, the history of white people playing other races in this country is.
I mean, let alone the fact that they make the roles for white people in general, for the almost the entire history of Hollywood until just now.
Who's they?
Because it sounds like you're talking about Jews.
You're talking about Jewish movie moguls who apparently have been keeping a brother down.
And again, you have to explain how someone like Will Smith exists if black people have never been given an opportunity before this moment in time right now.
But, you know, John Wayne playing Genghis Khan, you want to see that?
I mean, is that like the 50s and 60s you're going back to?
And are you complaining that he's playing someone from Central Asia?
I mean, don't get me wrong, John Wayne's Genghis Khan sounds stupid, but it's hardly relevant to what you're saying now, is it?
Deeply embarrassing.
This was my personal favorite.
This wasn't a person who was triggered, but I love memes.
I love people who poke fun at those who take things like this as a giant insult.
So let's go to graphic 42.
Them.
If you want minorities in movies, then make your own.
Jordan Peel, I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead.
Them.
And then you see the picture of all the.
That was really funny.
Well, I'm glad you told us that it was really funny.
Otherwise, I might not have realized.
But who is them?
Who is them?
Who is saying that?
Who is saying that?
When have minorities not been in movies?
Like, just go back and watch every 80s action flick you can find, and you will find minorities in roles in those movies.
And you go to like Predator 2.
Donald Lover.
Again, how was this a famous black actor?
How did he get this role if this has never happened?
Back in like 1992 or something.
How is that possible?
If none of this occurred without progressives doing it.
That's awesome.
You know what?
He's made two films.
And I'm not taking anything away from him, but I think the point here is that a man makes two films starring black people and all of a sudden we've got to start asking him questions.
Isn't it amazing how he's made one film that I've seen that was mediocre and a second film that I've heard is not brilliant.
Although I've got to say, the premise did sound good on the face of it.
And he's really, really famous because he's black and because he's making movies specifically with the intention of targeting black people as a racial demographic with the explicit intention of not using white people in those movies unless for you know supporting roles.
Isn't that weird how that guy becomes really famous really quickly?
Really makes you think, doesn't it?
Two, two, which is nothing in comparison to the amount of movies that have not starred black leaves in the history of Hollywood.
He's made two, and after two, not after 10, not after 20, after two, it's like, whoa, whoa, all right, you're leaving this out there, bud.
Like, whoa.
Literally no one is saying that.
They are complaining that Jordan Peel appears to be an open racist against white people, and nobody has a problem with his racism.
In fact, you guys will sit here and defend it.
You know, it's funny.
So when minorities bring up unjust situations and look for redress, they're like, ah, man, they love to play the victims, right?
Jenki, you're just talking about white people in general here, are you?
Two movies don't star white people.
They're like, we're the victims.
All right, guess we are.
But again, who's saying that?
Maybe people just don't want this guy to be a racist.
We're the victims.
We're now only in 98% of movies.
So here we have a non-white man mocking white people when someone is racist against white people.
Just to be clear, that's Chenk's position.
Let's hear from some more of the victims.
I don't even think that was an accident.
I think that she legit thinks that that's how people see themselves.
Maybe people just don't like racism, Anna.
So Wayne Allen Root writes, Jordan Peel is a racist.
What if I said I can't imagine casting black people in my films?
Wow, low-life racist.
Well, he makes a good point, and I noticed that he wasn't verified.
So good job on fucking up your own standards.
I think people have a hard time understanding like the different experiences.
Like there are different experiences among the races.
Oh, are there?
Really?
Okay, so now that we've regressed 100 years in our thinking, tell me about the different experiences of the races, Anna.
I'm really looking forward to how you justify what you're about to say.
And so if there's one group that has enjoyed the privilege of constantly getting the lead role, I think it makes all the sense in the world for someone who has been part of a disenfranchised group, someone who's worked really, really hard to get to where he is, and then he finally gets to where he wants to be.
He's using that to uplift other members of his community.
And I think that's important.
Okay, but it's also really dumb because what you're going to do by doing that is marginalize people of the privileged group, as you would term them.
And these people have worked really hard.
They'll get to the casting interview and they'll say, well, hang on.
We're not looking for white people, whatever group we're talking about.
So you can just go.
And that will make them marginalized.
And so when they finally create their own thing and manage to get to the position where they're casting, they're going to say, well, hang on a second.
White people only thank you very much because I had to work very hard and I was marginalized repeatedly by black identitarians.
So now the pendulum has come back the other way.
And this is how we're going to be doing things.
Bravo for validating white identitarianism, Anna.
That's all it is.
He's not saying that white men don't deserve to start.
Do you think we want to sit Leonardo DiCaprio down?
Do you think I never want to see George Clooney again?
No.
Well, that's exactly the same thing that I would have said.
It's like, well, look, just because white people aren't going to hire black people to be in movies anymore doesn't mean we don't want to see any movies without black people in.
It's just that we're not going to hire them.
Do you want to say, stop it?
It's not that we don't want to see Will Smith in movies anymore, although I've got to say at this point I am sick of seeing Will Smith in movies, which frankly is nothing to do with him being black.
It's everything to do with him being blue.
Stop it.
What he's saying is that he has a platform to give actors who don't get these opportunities the opportunity.
And he's going to use this platform to do so.
Of course they get the fucking opportunity.
That's why there are already famous black actors, you fucking liars.
Yeah, so it's a rhetorical trick, but guys, in case you want to know why it doesn't make any sense at all.
Oh, you're going to tell us about rhetorical tricks that don't make any sense at all?
Good stuff, Jenk.
Good stuff.
I'm looking forward to hearing this.
If the situation was reversed, then they would be right.
So if the country was majority black and all the movies had had black stars forever and none of the white stars had made it through and a couple of white stars finally did break through and a couple of white directors finally did break through and they had some success, and and then a black director said, i'm not gonna have any white people in my movie, then that would be deeply problematic and it would be racist because of the power dynamic.
You it because Jenk, you don't understand intersectional theory.
And even if you did, intersectional theory is nonsense, because people are not merely political actors for their racial groups.
People are individuals with their own characteristics, their own character, and they live different and interesting and varied lives that can't simply be grouped together under one banner heading of white people and black people, you fucking moron.
But that's not the situation.
One group has been oppressed for all this time.
No, they haven't.
Black people have not been oppressed for quite some time and it shows through all the successful black people that we see in Hollywood.
This is not a new phenomenon, you moron.
And you can say, look, I know that the right wingers don't care about the oppression.
The right wingers are the ones who ended it, Jenk.
The Democrats were pro-slavery.
The Democrats set up the KKK.
The first black senator was a Republican Jank.
They do care about oppression, but now you've come to the point where people are by and large, broadly speaking free, but the bottom line is it's not like they have all the power in Hollywood today or in any industry today.
So what?
Jordan Peel still seems to have an open bias, bigotry against white people.
We wouldn't accept that kind of racial bigotry from a white person against a black person.
There's no reason why we should accept it from a black person against a white person.
And until you can understand why that is, you will not treat black people as if they were the equals of white people.
So when they're saying we're going to allow for more people to be represented and we're not even proportional yet, we're not anywhere near proportional.
Yet what are you talking about?
Jordan Peele said he's not going to hire white people because they're white, and he has quote, seen that movie.
What the fuck are you talking about?
What is with this weasly, sniveling apologia to justify racism?
So if to say that no, they must have white people in their movies.
Nobody said that.
You fucking moron is preposterous in the current context of this country.
Well, it's a good thing.
No one said that.
Then you just made up a preposterous straw man and even then, in the context that You are describing, you are wrong.
But look, if we trigger him enough, eventually, like, well, all the Medea movies are making all that money.
You know what?
I demanded a white person play Tyler Perry.
Nice projection, Jenk, but that's what the progressives do.
They complain when they see someone else's success and they say, hey, I'm entitled to some of that because I'm me and I'm special and you're oppressing me.
So gimme, gimme, gimme.
Gibbs me dad.
Don't you recall your own straw man from earlier in this video where you said, oh, well, they say go and build your own and now we've got and built our own.
Also, none of those people were lining up on the first day to go see Get Out or Us or Black Panther.
So it's like you've been sitting down.
You have absolutely no idea that that's true, but you've just pulled it out of your ass, so we may as well run with it.
Yeah.
What do you see?
You're just like, I'm not, I'm going to continue not to see your movies.
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