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Feb. 4, 2019 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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The Future of Europe ｜ Janusz Korwin-Mikke
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Hello everyone, I'm interviewing Polish MEP John Coin Mickey.
John, how are you doing?
Thank you very much.
Very well.
Good.
So you got quite famous on the internet for standing up in the European Parliament and saying furthermore the European Union must be destroyed.
Do you think we're any closer to that goal with Brexit?
No, it's not the problem of Brexit.
There is strong forces in the European Union who wanted Brexit because it's a kind of complot to prevert from European Community of Steel and Coal into the European Economic Community, then Community European.
Now it is European Union and they want to make a union of European socialist republics.
But Great Britain was putting a rod into the wheels to stop it.
And we are losing an ally here because they want to stop it.
But they've done it purposely.
There is a proof.
Two weeks before referendum in Brexit, they put a false new, but official new, that they will give passports to all the Turks.
And it changed the attitude of the British opinion in great.
They wanted Brexit because what they wanted to have a common European army.
United Kingdom would not allow for it.
Well, we vetoed it in 2011.
But now we have the PESCO, this agreement for unification of the European forces.
Yeah, that's actually a really good point, I think, because I think, I mean, in one way, I'm honestly very pleased that Brexit is happening, at least in some form.
But by the other side, I think basically the point is that it kind of hurting the cause of liberty in Europe because it's advancing the interests of the European Union when it comes to further consolidation, isn't it?
But you must understand that European Union is led by the rather small group.
It is several hundred of men and women perhaps.
By the way, there is a Spinelli group, such a communist, Alfredo Spinelli, in the European Parliament, and there are four Poles, all women.
Not even one man.
So I said men and women.
But usually they are men.
The women are unfortunately.
Yes.
And they want to make for the communist state.
So when you say communist, can you expand on what you mean?
Because I think the word gets used in many different contexts.
And I think there are people who will object to you calling the European Union communist.
No, well, if you want to have greater equality, so you have a communist, of course, and socialist communists.
Right, so it's the drive for equality.
Equality.
Not freedom, but equality.
That is a very important difference.
Because in the free countries, what is the difference between left and right?
Right, believe in the Roman principle.
That it is me who decides what is good for me.
If you agree that a state can decide that something, for example, riding without the seatbelts, I am obliged to put it for my sake, for my good.
So it's against this principle.
The state can forbid me something if I of course do something against the community and so on.
But it cannot, cannot order me something for my good.
It is me who decide with my goods.
This is the difference.
thinks that it is a welfare state and there is somebody, a slave owner by the way, because slave owner because slave owners, of course, they are treating us like slaves, like animals, like children, but not as a ban.
And by the way, about the men, now we are on the verge of the very important and substantial question.
Mrs. Sara Sarba, a Finnish feminist, has posed this question: whether a white heterosexual man is still a human being.
Okay, why is she proposing that?
Why is this a question?
Very important question.
Because they think it is not a human being.
It must be extinct.
Well, I mean, I suppose one day.
So I really like the distinction you're making about the difference of worldview between left and right.
I think that's really interesting.
Because I've long noticed that the left is very systemic.
They view things as a big picture.
But you're saying, and I think if we're using that term, then these definitions, then right would be about personal sovereignty, sort of the liberal ideal, the personal, the independent individual.
And it does produce wildly different worldviews.
And the European Union in this particular dichotomy is very far to the left in that regard.
Yes, late Margaret Thatcher has said it openly.
It is the idea of the crazy left intellectuals.
And she was right.
Absolutely right.
Yes, the technocracy that thinks that they can solve all of Europe's problems, frankly.
With regards to the European army, I'm of the opinion that they're obviously trying to build a state, you know, an empire, frankly.
And then you've had people like Guy Verhofstadt who have used the term empire.
what do you think since you're an MEP is that something of course of course it It is trying to create an empire, to have a unified state, because now it is a federation of the federal state.
They want a unitary state, not federal state, unitary state.
By the way, they are masking that they are already a state.
Because when the law of European Union overcomes the law of the state, it is union with states, not the state like German lands or like Scotland, at least, or something like that.
So we lost our sovereignty over our country, and we are against it.
Because by the way, it would be Margaret Thatcher who would rule the European Union, who would be for the European Union, because we have such a leftist country in Poland as well.
But perhaps it is not very interesting for British listeners.
But in Poland, there is so-called round because roundtable talks after the communist times.
And there was talks against progressive Communist Party and the opposition.
The names, the opposition men, was picked up personally by General Kiszczak, the Minister of Interior, and they are all the agents of the secret policy, with Mr. Lek Vawensa.
Of course.
So now this is an artificial state.
And there was a very original deal made that once you win, then we win, then you win, but never went.
Whoever wins, we go to the European Union and we beat Euro-socialism.
And the party who is ruling now is pretending, it's patriotic, of course.
Mr. Kaczynski demanded four times to build a strong European army.
If there would be a strong European army, they would need help to the Hungarian people oppressed by the terrible regime of Mr. Viktor Orban.
This has been a big fear in Britain particularly.
And people, and I see this constantly, people constantly seeing the idea that troops raised in one end of Europe could be assigned to occupy another part for Viktor Orban or Salvi.
Not to occupy, give help.
Sorry, yeah, liberal to liberate.
But that's a genuine concern.
And do you think that something like that would happen?
Because as far as I can tell, all power is centralizing in the U.S.
They are thinking very, very carefully.
They're planning for a long distance.
They began 30 years ago.
It is not only the men of Altiero Spinelli, not only the men of the great East French, such a pseudo-masonry, which is ruining France.
But it's also the man of Rudy Dutchka.
Just look into the Wikipedia and something Mr. Rudy Dutchka.
I'm not familiar.
He was a very important guru of the left in Germany in the 60s and 70s.
And he said, after they lost the battle to overtake Spencer, he said, stop these childish games.
Not attack the state.
Inscribed as a clerics in the state.
Don't throw the stones on the police.
Just inscribe.
After 30 years, we shall overtake it.
And he called it Great March.
After the Mausetung, Great March through the institutions.
And they are doing it.
There's a small group, several hundreds of perhaps one or two thousand.
And they are ruling this European Union.
That's really interesting, because I mean, that kind of dovetails with something, I think, was it Peter Hitchens, I think, said that the European Union is the continuation of Germany by other means.
And I think that was considered a controversial statement.
But I mean, do you see the European Union being essentially a Franco-German project?
I don't think that Therdreich was the emanation of the Germany.
Therdreich is not German.
Of course, it was imposed on Germany.
But the spirit of Germany is not.
There's several hundreds of the different states, Saxony, Mecklenburg, and so on and so on, fighting.
There was great freedom there was in Germany.
The Cert Reich destroyed it, exactly like the Soviet Union destroyed Russia.
Because you must understand, I was several times, two or three times, in Russian TV, and I was trying to convince them that the Soviet Union was the greatest enemy of the Russians.
They killed hundreds of times more Russians than Poles.
They are murdering the aristocracy, bankers, everyone.
They fled or been murdered.
No, 60% of Russians believe the Soviet Union was good for Russia.
And I think they are not Russians.
They are Soviets.
Putin is not.
Putin is a Russian.
He's Russian.
But he must be very careful.
Because 60% of Russians think that the greatest Russian in history was Stalin.
I didn't know.
By the way, Stalin is not a Russian.
He's a journalist.
Adolf Hitler was Austrian, not democratic.
Isn't that interesting that it's the commitment to the ideal rather than the commitment to the people of the country themselves?
So, if Mr. Putin would openly say that he is anti-Soviet, so they would vote for Zhuganov.
By the way, in the last by-elections, in three regions in Russia, one vote for communists and two voted for Zhirnovsky, who calls himself Liberal Democrat.
He's not a Democrat, but he's anti-Stanis.
Right.
Well, that's important.
That's important.
So that's a very good sign.
I prefer Zhirnovsky to Yuganov.
Putin is, of course, an imperialist, but you know, he's an impedance who didn't acquire not a single land, even South Ossetia.
He didn't change.
The people of South Ossetia want to be joined to Russia, and he refused.
What do you think of the Crimean annexation then?
Did you think that was Russia's annexation of Crimea?
But only 86% of the inhabitants of Crimea wanted.
Of course, it was illegal, but the United States also illegally broke from the English Empire.
So, of course, it is illegal, but such things happen.
But, you know, for example, there was a small green people, they call this the small green people who are Russians who are acting on the Crimea.
It's called the United States.
Yes, yes.
Seated troops.
No, no, no.
There were single officers and there was a battalion of the Ukrainian soldiers and came the single Russian and said, the wages in Russia are two times more and all the battalion crosses, all the, all the navy of Ukrainian.
Ukrainian change changed to Russia.
All one.
One ship said to the Russia, against the will of the of the sailors, but captain and first officer were Ukrainians.
Russia returns this, the ships, but without, without the clues, of course.
So so, it's absolutely blessing.
But Poland, by the way yeah, is the last country in the world who can blame Russia for it, because Russia, Russia was, of course, illegally supporting, supporting Donbas in Donetsk, Ukaninsk and so on, but in 1920, Poland was also illegally supporting the mutineers in Silesia, exactly the same as doing now.
It's what people do, isn't it?
Um, you know you, Putin cannot do the other way, because because 90% of Russians want Russia to support Russians in Donetsk.
So what can Putin do?
Well yeah, he's kind of, he's got his hand forced there, hasn't he?
Um okay, so how?
How do you?
Uh, how do you feel that Brexit's negotiations are going well?
I am looking at the Statistics, economic statistics, and everything is arising because I think that the business wants hard Brexit because Hart Brezik is healthy, everything is clear.
I cannot understand why the European Union wants the United Kingdom to pay for access to the market, and Mrs. May don't want the European Union to pay for the access to the British pay less perhaps, but divide it into this.
It's a very interesting question, though, isn't it?
Why is it one for one and not for us?
Yes.
Well, this thing, I can't really understand the United Kingdom's, well, the Conservative government's negotiating strategy at all, because they're acting as if we've been defeated.
And it seems that the European Union wants our trade, they want our money, and I mean, they need it.
I mean, so many European countries, like Ireland's economy, is closely tied to this.
They want to punish the European Union just to get an example for the other dissenters.
But, well, Mrs. May is too weak.
She is still a woman.
Margaret Thatcher was the only man in her cabinet who was wearing the trousers.
And Mrs. May is not.
Yes, it's night and day, isn't it?
The difference between Margaret Thatcher and Theresa May.
No, no, no, absolutely.
When you listen to the rhetoric from Margaret Thatcher, it was very powerful, you know, very confident.
But Theresa May is servile.
She's cruel.
She's very feminine.
Like Mogherini, when there was coup in Paris, and there was 40 or 50 people dead.
And what would do a normal leader of the country?
They sent the troops to the Rakhine, kill those bloody cities.
It's very easy.
All this is terrorists with 50,000.
That's all.
Very easy.
And what had Mrs. Mogherini done?
She began to cry.
That's incredible.
Incredible.
Yeah, and she's the defense minister, isn't she?
Yes, she's foreign affairs.
But there is an internet collage showing ministry of war, of defense of China, of Russia.
I'm going to get in so much trouble for this.
Do you know in Bundeswera?
Yeah.
They are now obligatory hours in caverns.
Hours of love for gays.
Very, very progressive.
Very progressive.
In Afghanistan, it happened that there was Talibans attacked Americans and they called for the help of helicopters.
And the colleagues came, the German helicopters were the first.
And they bombed the terrorists.
At four o'clock, they say, dinner break.
Bundeswera.
Once it was a Bundeswera.
So, what do you think about the stability of the European Union?
Because at the moment, I mean, there seems to be an awful lot of resistance to Brussels itself.
I mean, like the yellow vests in France spread to Brussels and were attacking the Commission building.
And then you've got Poland, Hungary, and Italy that are forming a kind of axis against Brussels, aren't they?
So do you feel that it's a sort of stable project at the moment?
But because this project itself, the foundation of the problem are wrong.
And that's th this is the reason because what was the the idea of the Europe?
Just paint to the La La Belle Epoque, the beautiful epoch, in the end of the 19th century.
There was no borders, in fact.
But there were borders, of course.
But the goods and men were crossing the borders with no control.
Only Russia.
Only Russia had passports in 1870 or something, introduced passports.
There was no passport in Europe.
For 40 years, there was no customs, no anything.
Without European Union.
And students were studying, Polish students were studying in Madrid, in Petersburg, in London, in München, and Munich, everything, without Erasmus programme.
How did they do it?
This is very good, because I am afraid that if the European Union is overtaken by such a man, if National Front in France, Salvini in Italy, they will make borders.
They stop the freedom of movement.
So this is also not our choice.
We are afraid.
What is worse?
European Union or a nationalist of Mademoiselle Le Pen.
By the way, by the way, if I were a French bell, I wouldn't vote for Mademoiselle Le Pen.
But being a Pole, I would like her to wear the power because she's the enemy of Germany.
Well, I mean, the renewal of vows between Macron and Merkel the other day was weird.
Really weird.
It was like, it was kind of gross.
But the same case of Chasboard, now if you have a neighbor, the neighbor of your neighbor is your enemy.
Neighbor is your friend.
Your neighbor is your enemy.
So our enemy now is Ukraine, not Russia.
Not Russia, because we did not have borders.
Of course, on the northern small perturbation, but nobody cares for it.
Ukraine demands Polish territories, Vemkovina, of course.
I don't follow the region, unfortunately.
So these territories beginning almost from Krakow, almost from Krakow, up to almost to more farther than Lemberg, Lilbert, they were mixed population.
In the 16th and 17th century, when you were traveling from Krakow to Kiev, the speech was slowly changing.
Less Polish, more Ukrainian.
There was no writing, there was no TV, there was no radio, so there was no unified standardized speech.
So introducing of the radio destroyed this harmony and they separate Ukrainian and Polish.
How do you feel that the European Union is dealing with Poland?
Are they being fair to Poland at the moment?
European Union wants to build in Poland the system which is in the European Union, because they say that the differences are more important.
But everything they are doing it is it is to unify standardization everything, everything.
I even was famous.
I was fined fined with 6,000 euros for saying that they even had an All-European ticket and of course I was punished for I was mocking of the, of the hitter for for promoting it.
Just crazy.
And they want to unify everything.
And I am feeling in Poland, like I was living in, I was living in 1956 in Poland.
And I had to choose between the good socialism of Khrushchev, not Stanin Khrushchev, progressive socialists, and Polish, Polish as a peace, anti-socialist, actually primitive socialist of Poland.
This is the same difference now between the socialists of the European Union and our small, small Polish national socialism.
I am not using nothing the word national socialism in the sense of because Karsyński is not a nationalist.
His status.
His state is not nationalist.
Do you feel that effectively any freedom that Poland has as a state is eventually going to be engulfed in the bureaucracy of the Union?
Well, we are fighting against the bureaucracies of Union, but we have our own bureaucracy which is taking our freedom even more easily.
I said Mr. Matthew Piskorsky is in the jail for three years without connecting with the judge.
He means accused, accused of being a Russian spy.
Of course he's not a Russian spy.
So they are keeping him in jail because he was influencing public opinion in favor of Russia.
But in England, also if one comes here and he has some nationalist views and the rightist views, he can be expelled for bid to speech, like in England.
Absolutely.
We have more freedom in Poland than in England.
More freedom.
I've got no doubt.
I actually don't consider Britain to be a free country at this point.
There are certain things you just can't say.
But you know, if the thief is flying, so he cries loudly, catch the thief, catch the thief.
So the fascists, which is the fascist in the European Union, is rising, they are calling others fascists.
They are carbon the freedom of speech and they call the other people fascists.
Fascists will not the troops marching on the streets.
They are the band of state officials who are slowly, slowly, slowly taking our freedom, millions or zillions of populations, populations.
They dedicate everything to the veneration of the state.
And it is absolutely unimportant whether you put into the Auschwitz, you put the Jews or you put the anti-Semites.
The idea is the same.
I actually, I went to the European Parliament fairly recently and I was kind of disturbed by how, I mean, I guess I would call it hyper-nationalist when you get there.
They talk about the importance of protecting European culture and the dream of Europe, preventing war in Europe.
It's an ideal.
But they don't understand the point.
The point is that European culture is endangered by the men who promote the values which are exactly opposite to the European.
Everything, what was good in Europe, is bad in the European Union.
European Union is strongly anti-European, exactly like the Soviet Union was anti-Russian.
And Cert Reich was anti-German, in fact.
So the values, everything.
In Europe, we say the murderer must be hanged.
In European Union, the death penalty is abolished.
It took us back 4,000 years.
We are now in a primitive society, prehamburambis, prejamburabi times.
It taken us back 4,000 years.
There are two primitive tribes in Amazonia, two tribes in Africa and one primitive tribe in Brussels who have abolished the death penalty.
And well, for example, co-education in schools.
When there are primitive tribes with the co-education, when they are eating worms from the disease, they have a co-education.
But if in the tribe there is a chief, there is a shaman, there is so on, oh no, there is no co-education.
The boys and girls are being taught separately.
It is progress.
And that we are now taking back, once again, 4,000 years.
When I've been in school in the communist times, we are openly told that the primitive society is the ideal for the socialists.
And they are now taking us back 4,000 years.
They believe that such a society is a better form of government than the government.
In Europe, the men must be brave, must be aggressive, and so on.
Now, of course, man is the enemy of cheats and family and so on.
In European Union, in Europe, the children belong to the parents, to the family, in European Union, but well, you remember the case of the two late events, this two years late boy, who has been killed nine months ago.
Small events.
he has been probably he would die anyway.
But the parents wanted to take him from the...
Oh yes, yes, they wouldn't let me.
They wanted to take it from the hospital.
And there was even a hospital in England, in Italy, who wanted to give.
And even Italian government has given them citizenry of Italy.
Yes, I can't remember the name of the channel.
the hospital refused to hand them to the parents because the transport would make harm to the child and they killed him but what is more the transport might bring harm to the child But what is most important?
That Mrs. Teresa Mai has said openly.
It's not the European Union, it's a Mai.
The parents must understand that child don't belong to the parents, they belong to the state.
So it is communist.
It is Teresa Mai.
It is not Don Donald Tusk.
It is not free.
It's not John Claude Juncker.
It's Teresa Mai.
Oh, I agree.
The Conservative Party in this country is effectively the Labour Party, frankly.
It's terrible.
So I really like it.
the Christian Democrats, not in difference between Socialists.
I remember when I was in European Parliament and a Socialist, a leader of Socialists in Europe attacking the Christian Democrats and then the leader of...
Well, why do you say so?
But we believe in the same values.
He said openly.
Why do you attack us?
So I really like the point you make about the institution of the European Union or the USSR and Nazi Germany becoming the enemy of the individual German.
There is a law of Osulivan.
Osulivan was the editor of National Deview in the United States.
And he said, every institution who is not carefully protected and the rightist will become leftist with time.
Yeah, well an institution that's not explicitly right-wing becomes leftist over time.
But the okay, so I mean I think there are loads of examples in Europe about how the the bureaucracy is becoming the enemy of the individual in Europe.
I mean what what do you think of the European arrest warrant?
Well it it is being used and it is not only common European army but also common European police and commonly of course but there is something more perhaps it is not so so visible but it's more dangerous.
Two countries because they are not still a state.
United Kingdom will become a state after Brexit but countries declared that they will not sign the Charter Of Fundamental Rights so-called, and then the European Court European Court declared that okay, but if somebody appeals to the European court, European court made the verdict,
like the Charter in Poland and in Benzon, so they just don't care for, of course.
And so just just to explain to anyone watching the, the European arrest warrant effectively means that you can be accused of a crime in another country and your government will extradite you to that country to face the charges, which is wild, but this is but.
But there is something very very, very dangerous.
I've been in the discussion on the Warsaw University.
There was Madeleine Juninker.
She was a judge after a judge and also advisor to the Ministry OF Justice in Poland, and she declared it was in the beginning of there was no European Union, there was European Community, because European Union was after Treaty Of Lisbon and still the the law of European Union was not above the long term.
And she declared that Polish judges will give verdicts according to the European law, even if this is contrary to the Polish constitution.
In normal countries she would be put to tower and perhaps even even have her head cut.
It's incredible.
She was in a judge.
And, by the way, and I have an example, I've been on the in the no on the sale yeah, there was.
Tright was a small youngster, teenage by the way, he was a gypsy from Berwystok, and he killed in the battle law a youngster, Belgian youngster, who didn't want to give him his workmen.
So he murdered him, get and fled to Poland, and the kingdom of Belgium demanded to return him to the Belgium to be tried.
And in Polish constitution there was a paragraph, article fifty five, who said it was the only one clear clear, clear articles constitution.
What extradition of Polish citizen is forbidden?
Right yeah, and still, the judge ordered him to be handed over to to the prison.
And I I I, I get news that before him six, six others offended.
He'd been handed over.
So Polish constitution is nothing.
Yeah, it doesn't matter, I mean it it it, literally.
It contradicts their desire for a homogenized Europe.
And so it it can be, it can be ignored, it can go, and but the way this, this Polish constitution, has been changed here, af after This affair, but still, the judge, the judge who gives such a verdict, could be tried in the free Poland, exactly like the Stalines judges had been tried right here because it's just incredible.
Just incredible.
What's the open breaking of the constitution?
It's terrifying, frankly, in many ways.
I mean, like, one of the most recent concerns for people who use the internet a lot has been Article 13.
Are you familiar with Article 13?
Maybe what?
Article 13.
It's a proposition by the European Union to effectively regulate social media all across Europe.
And what they want to do is force the companies themselves to implement an algorithm that scans everything that's uploaded.
So effectively, anything that could be considered a copyrighted piece of material, whether it is or not, and it could be under transformative use.
But there would be something very censored if something worse.
They want to abolish the paper money.
So they will know everything.
There was no such a tyranny in the history of the maintenance.
There was no free money.
The government will know everything about us because we have access to all the banks, all the accounts.
We knew everything.
If they implement this, it will be the tyranny unknown in the history of the mind.
Well, I agree.
I think we're actually coming into that now.
And I think what's happening on the internet, the sort of like dissident side of the internet, we're actually seeing a lot like that because what's happening is deplatforming from various services, financial services like PayPal, Patreon, the global payment network.
They've become activists.
They've become very progressive and they're targeting people because of what they believe and saying, right, you can't use our service.
But the problem is, it's effectively a monopoly.
Silicon Valley has control over the entire internet and they have their own moral agenda that they're effectively enforcing on everyone else.
And so, I mean, you say it's a tyranny.
I completely agree.
It's definitely the enemy of the individual.
You should understand one thing.
That you cannot fight with this avalanche of leftists separately.
You must destroy all of it because if you change one fragment, the fragment will not fit to the rest.
So this will return.
Such a small reference will not help.
We need a cultural counter-revolution.
I'm saying.
Cultural counter-revolution we need.
We must return to our European values against union values.
I can't say I'm particularly optimistic for the chances that we should do that because it is a cultural because the values are shaken and we must return to the traditional values.
They are living in ourselves.
You can hear a man who stays on the Tribune and says equality of women and so on.
He returns home and says to his wife, make dinner, and she makes dinner, of course, because she wants to eat something.
In his heart, he doesn't believe in this.
That's in the communist times.
The director of the Tribune had the workers' class ruling it, returns to the factory and rules over these workers and treats them very bad.
By the way, it's ideologically correct, isn't it?
Yes.
By the way, the wife of our ex-Minister of Exterior, Mr. Sikorsky, Mrs. Anna Applebaum, she's an American Jewish, and she is in Washington doing that.
And she said, I was in Russia, and I was shocked how these new capitalists in Russia are badly treating their workers.
That's incredible.
I'm shocked.
Quite.
And she understood because they were reading the Soviet paper Pravda.
This is a paper.
It was told that the capitalists are treating the workers as they try to be good capitalists.
Well, I'll tell you what, they fit very well with the Western leftists and their opinion of capitalism.
So what do you think about the rise of socialism in the West?
Because there is a very widespread and deep feeling of anti-capitalist feeling.
Taras Marx had said that the socialists will be first built in the rich Western countries.
So China, Russia, Soviet Russia, it was just an explanation.
No, in the Soviet times, we are joking, we are joking that the Marxists, I was not a Marxist, because we were mocking of the Marxists.
Not normal men, some serious about Marxists.
They said that the socialists will be built in the Western countries.
It is Russia and so on.
Also said, Mr. Vladimir Bukowski, who is living in London now, by the way, he's very old now, famous Soviet oppositionist, but he was a libertarian, not a socialist as the rest of the Russian opposition.
And he says that it is not, they are telling, the Soviets are telling this scientific socialism.
It cannot be scientific.
If they were scientists, they would first try it on the dogs or monkeys.
We are wrong in both points.
Socialism is already being built in the Western, and he was before tried on the Untermens of Eastern Europe and China and so on.
He was first tried on them.
It was an experiment.
Now it is built, and the rich men who are building the socialism.
Because the rich men don't want competition from the young entrepreneurs who can endanger their position.
They want to have the orders from the government and to protect them from the competition.
Well, yeah, I mean, they probably are in some way.
But the problem I think we have in the West, in particular with the influence of the left, and this is it's very pervasive.
I've been in the United States 30 years ago or something, and then a libertarian from California said, oh, in one big university in the United States, there is more Marxists in all Soviet Unions from Radio Stop.
Oh, yeah, it's terrible.
There are Marxists in every university.
Not the majority or anything, but there's a large number of communists around.
And people are openly communist.
I mean, there's a surprise amount of pro-Soviet propaganda coming out of the West.
Oh, pro-Soviet.
There was even in 1959 a famous article, is Soviet Union still a socialist country?
And they turned anti-Soviets.
The leftists like, yes, as they were anti-Soviets.
Oh, yeah, because Soviets would slowly, slowly, slowly turning to the right.
And Mr. Putin is a KGB man, and he doesn't want the democracy or equal rights or something.
He's an officer.
He wants a hierarchy, so he's a rightist.
There is no better conservatives than the revolutionary who got money in the state.
So, the problem is, I mean, we're just inundated with socialism in the West at the moment.
I mean, what do you think can be done?
Like, how can we persuade young people that socialism doesn't work?
And it's not just like the economic system, it's the worldview itself.
I cannot understand.
In Poland, for example, the people usually say they are right that the governments, the men, politicians, are either idiots or thieves.
They are absolutely right.
Still, the same men want, for example, the power station or armament factories belong to the state.
So, they want to be ruled by those idiots and thieves.
That's incredible.
I don't know.
It's like full of contradictions.
For example, in America, the left will say the police are racist and evil and brutal, and then they'll demand that only the police have guns.
Do you not see the contradiction there?
The individual should be able to arm themselves, surely.
They believe in the police if it is police in their hands.
Well, yeah, that's it, isn't it?
They assume they'll be in control of it.
So, what do you make of the rising populist right in Europe?
There's been a lot of concern about that.
Well, I don't believe in democracy at all, because majority is stupid.
As said Winston Churchill, if you want to get all illusions about democracy, just talk five minutes to the average electoral.
I don't believe in democracy.
In England, I do not believe in Prince Charles, but in Prince William, perhaps.
If there's difficult times, he can gather some officers in the army and regain power to the monarchy, because I monarchists.
Yeah, I'm aware that you're a monarchist, yeah.
I don't ever see anything like that happening in England.
It is possible, because you know, if something is necessary, it is also possible.
So, the first law of the modern logic is it will be necessary because the people don't understand, of course, why it is, but they feel that something is wrong.
Feel something is wrong.
And I can put great money that if a general now put in the jail in Poland all the politicians from the party and all this foreign remaining party, and even me, and even me.
So, public opinion would applaud him.
So, I think in Great Britain would be even more easy if it wouldn't done Prince William.
So, what do you think of Britain's prospects outside of the European Union?
Well, when you have a flotilla of ships, vessels, thanks to the ocean, of 28 vessels, and you want to change the course, it is much easier to change the course of single vessels that if they are all 28 that are bound by the lines and so on.
So, there is a chance.
There is a chance, as I told you, there's a chance of, say, Prince William or somebody else who makes some counter-revolution in Great Britain.
But there is no chance to do it in the 28 countries bound together because if so, they would change the army of the other countries, pacify the Hungarians and Poles and so on.
So, there is a chance.
It's only a chance.
I think people are thinking economically.
What do you think of economically, Britain?
Do you think it will help?
It will not change much in the kind of economy, not to change much.
Because the free trade will, of course, we will be more pro-American than the rest of Europe.
But I would like to explain one small thing.
The Kingdom of Norway don't belong to European Union.
The United Kingdom belongs.
But the Kingdom of Norway belongs to Schengen.
Kingdom of United Kingdom doesn't belong to Schengen.
So nothing joins those two countries.
Still, the subjects of Norway are freely coming to see Great Britain and something Norway with no problems.
So there's not a problem of European communities.
It's nothing to do with the European Union.
Just to make a living normal country like 100 years ago, 120 years ago in the La Belle Epoch.
Well, I mean, I think we'll be okay too, to be honest.
What are your thoughts on the future of the European Union after Brexit?
What do you think is going to happen?
Well, they will die of their own armament.
They will be killed by the Muslims.
Important to the because you know the Muslims are tolerating Jews, Christians, are tolerating the younger brothers and so on.
But they are murdering atheists.
I've been in Saudi Arabia and I was told by one Arab atheist, if you want your wife to betray you and your children not to listen to you, tell them that God doesn't exist.
I'm not sure that the Arabs believe in God really, but still they pretend they believe and the women and children, all such a strong father, man, they praise the God, so God must be very powerful, he must be obeyed to the God's commandment and so on.
It's very important.
Very important.
Even if somebody is atheist, she must pretend that he believes in God because in his interest.
In country, if people believe in God, they still less because they are afraid of that.
If people believe in life after death, so they can fight for the fatherland, fight for the country, because they are not afraid to die, because that will praise after the death.
So it is very important.
Whether God exists or not is absolutely unimportant.
There is no logical connection between the existence of God and believing in God.
You can believe in God who doesn't exist or it doesn't exist.
So all four possibilities are possible.
But it's very important for politicians that believe in God.
This is why all the countries accepted Christianity.
The primitive kings sometimes accepted Christianity because they think it is their interests.
So who destroys the faith, the Christian faith here?
So you must underchange to the Muslim or you will die.
Because people must believe in something.
Because it is political necessity.
It's not the moral political.
If we stop to believe in God, those who believe, I mean, the Muslims, will win.
So you, I mean, what sort of time scale are you thinking of when you say that?
How long do you think that?
Well, less than 20 years.
Less than 20 years.
Less than 20 years, yes.
Less than 20 years.
They will overcome because we are afraid of them.
Afraid of them.
We are afraid to die.
The Muslims are not afraid to die.
They know how to kill.
The kind of baptism in Muslim country, a young boy, nine years or something, but kills the videos.
They can kill.
They win.
The men must kill.
You must be aggressive.
And every woman knows that, not every feminist don't.
But every woman knows that her man should be aggressive because perhaps he will just make some claps on the grass, but he will defend her and their child against the enemy.
So it's very good to have aggressive men.
Even some women are loving the murderers and so on.
They are marrying the very popular.
Yes, because they are strong men.
Real women was the strong men.
And if we, the European Union is killing the idea of the strong men, then they'll be replaced by someone else's consultants.
The foundation and the Christian church and European Union are right.
It is the sexual relations which determine the future of the society of the nations and so on.
So if you believe in the equality of sexes, you are ruining the society.
It is the men who must dominate and rule the county.
Also, women, men like Rambier, but it's a man.
Well, look, I can tell you, just look in the internet.
The Polish team of the basketball players, a Polish team of volleyball players, football players, and bridge players and chess players.
In every team, the captain, the court is men.
Those women choose the men as a captain because they want to win.
And the army of sheep led by lion is stronger than the army of lions led by the sheep.
So they want to win.
And it is the same in politics.
In the interest of women, is that the men should rule the count, not the woman.
I tell you what, you are just saying this is going to get me in so much trouble.
But I was talking with Lady Tachan and she said that she is against voting right to the women.
Why?
Why?
Because it is not good for women.
Women vote for men.
That's true.
She said that he'll be elected as a leader of the Conservative Party because 90% of the voting were men.
If half of the men of the Conservative Party were women, some men would be chosen.
It is better for women than the men and electors.
There's actually quite a lot of evidence to bear this out as well.
I mean, for example, in business, something like 70% of women prefer a male boss to a female boss.
Of course, because the female boss apparently is quite common for them to bully the women under them and things like this.
Only 70?
Only 70.
In Poland, I know only two women who said that they want a female boss.
Only two.
All the others say that they want a man.
Because with men, they can do something.
Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, Christ.
This interview is going to get me in so much trouble.
John, thank you very much.
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