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Sept. 12, 2018 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin

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Article 13： What Happened？

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	Hello, folks.
	How's it going?
	Sorry that this sounds a bit off, but obviously I'm in a hotel room and it's insufferably hot.
	I don't happen to have air conditioning, so if you can hear any noises in the background, I had to have the window open.
	I am knackered.
	It has been a long three days.
	I've been doing a lot of stuff.
	And it's just up early and bed late, obviously.
	So today didn't exactly go brilliantly, did it?
	I'll let you know what happened.
	So the way these things work is I was a visitor in the European Union, so I had a little visitor tag, which meant I couldn't go around on my own.
	I had to have someone along with me, which was fine.
	I had one of Jared Batten's assistants, who's a lovely lady who was very cooperative and just helped us out whenever we needed it.
	So in the European Union, there's the MEP bar that we were staying in when we weren't off doing something or whatnot.
	I would have actually put up a video that I recorded in one of those rooms, except for some reason my mic cut out.
	I'm like two minutes into the recording, so that was fucking annoying.
	But anyway, that's why I'm doing this this way.
	So you go up and you go above to the gallery of the European Parliament and you see all the MEPs down in there and they're sat at their desks ready to vote.
	It was full, very busy.
	The gallery was full.
	Lots of special interests were arrayed against us.
	Many media, books, you know, like film movies, books, and lots of journalists also were in there.
	And so yeah, we let me think.
	So it begins with the initial voting on the amendments.
	And this is something that you have to prepare for in advance because it's done very, very quickly.
	And often with a show of hands.
	And it's, I mean, you know, you think it's all done digitally, but for some reason there is also a show of hands.
	It was explained to me, but I can't remember why it's not my head.
	But it's all done so quickly.
	I don't believe for a second these people have an accurate impression of how many hands have actually been raised.
	But there we go.
	Anyway, so the voting was actually on three things: Article 5, Article 11, and Article 13.
	Article 5 is the exemption of member states' rights.
	I don't really know much about this one, but it sounds to me very much like another power grab of the European Union over the member states themselves.
	So can't be good.
	But Article 11, there was a request to reject Article 11 out of hand, the whole thing.
	That was the first stage of the vote.
	This was rejected by a colossal margin.
	It was something like 74 votes to reject and 620 or 640 votes to keep it.
	So you can see already the kind of group opinion of MEPs very much in favor of having power to regulate and control the internet.
	Shouldn't come as much of a surprise given how, why wouldn't they?
	Why the hell wouldn't they want more of this?
	So all of the dissident amendments failed.
	Now, there are lots of amendments that were put forward by UKIP, the Greens, and a bunch of other, like the Pirate Party and small coalitions of parties in the European Parliament.
	These were all rejected.
	They weren't necessarily by the largest margins, though.
	Some of them were fairly narrow, which just goes to show you how productive it was for you guys to send the emails.
	So great job.
	I mean, given the interests arrayed against us, to have some of these amendments that we were in favor of be rejected by quite small margins is pretty good.
	And I'm certain that we've definitely had an influence there.
	But all of the pro-directive amendments passed, as far as I remember, if not all, almost all.
	Of particular note was Amendment 89, where member state law takes priority over EU law, and that failed by a wide margin.
	Again, it really is about a power grab over the other member states.
	And also against Silicon Valley.
	Now, there was a debate yesterday in the parliament about it, and it's amazing how often the power of Silicon Valley was mentioned.
	In fact, at one point, it was considered to be greater than the power of the European Union.
	And there was also a lot of envy and greed about the amount of money that Silicon Valley has.
	And this is clearly a method of wealth redistribution from Silicon Valley to the European Union.
	Now, I wouldn't normally defend Silicon Valley, given how much I spend, how much of my time on this channel I spend railing against Silicon Valley.
	But when something is done that's being unjust, if it's being done to people I don't like, I still have to call it unjust.
	So, frankly, I have to cite a Silicon Valley on this one.
	And not just because of my own self-interest, but because this just isn't fair.
	They're claiming that Silicon Valley is exploiting people.
	Now, maybe when it comes to people uploading entire movies to YouTube or something, even though I'm very dubious about this, because as far as I can tell, the main culprit they were using was YouTube.
	And I know that YouTube's scanning algorithm is pretty good.
	In fact, in many cases, it's way too good.
	And it captures things that aren't breaches of copyright and treats them as if they're breaches of copyright.
	Who knows?
	But they claim, I haven't seen the Voss report.
	So I mean, maybe they've got lots of evidence in there, but I find that hard to believe, frankly.
	But the claims were that Silicon Valley is stealing all of their revenue.
	And they deserve fair remuneration.
	Of course, no one ever specified what was fair or not.
	But that was the justification.
	Oh, and just so you know, both the Conservatives and Labour MEPs all voted for this, because why wouldn't they?
	Basically, Remain is, well, not an orbit name, but just Remainers.
	So on Article 11, the hyperlink exclusion amendment was voted down by over 100 votes.
	Now, this would be the main problem with the Article 11, which is the link tags.
	So the question here is, if you post a hyperlink to social media, does the social media platform have a liability to pay the author of the?
	And it's just for journalistic publications as well.
	This isn't for non-journalists.
	It's just for journalists.
	So if you're sharing something that's just whatever, a cooking blog or something, that doesn't count.
	But if you're sharing something from a newspaper, that does count.
	Again, who's going to define what these things are?
	Who knows?
	None of these things are defined, and that's the main problem.
	So the hyperlink exclusion thing lost.
	Now, this is particularly specific.
	So it can be even you copying the title of a news article and tweeting that out.
	That might well be counted.
	But certainly copying and pasting a link into a tweet.
	And then if that brings up the automatic, like the picture and the title, definitely.
	That is now a taxable offense.
	It puts the onus on the platform itself.
	Now, you might think, well, I don't give a shit because fuck Silicon Valley.
	They can pay out the nose.
	I don't care.
	Well, the problem with this is that it guarantees the monopoly of Silicon Valley over Europe because anything that like any of the smaller platforms are probably A, not going to be able to afford this.
	And let's be honest, most of Silicon Valley probably couldn't afford this if they weren't owned by larger umbrella corporations.
	Because a lot of Silicon Valley isn't in credit.
	Like YouTube runs at a deficit of around 4 billion a year, just to give you an impression.
	I'm not sure.
	I can't imagine Twitter is particularly profitable and Facebook's profitable through data mining.
	So again, I don't like, but so this is this is going to make smaller tech platforms, social media platforms, untenable in Europe.
	They're not going to be able to afford this.
	And every time, I mean, they're going to have to remove every link you post.
	If you post a link to something and they can't afford the license, they're just going to have to remove it.
	So that's that automatically censored.
	Frankly, and this is the most concerning thing, they're not even sure how this is going to be done.
	They don't know how they are actually going to be able to tax Silicon Valley in this way.
	They haven't got a roadmap for it.
	They haven't worked out the mechanics of it.
	And so it's just like, okay, well, we want to do this.
	We wish to be able to do this, but we don't know how.
	And that really speaks to the fundamental problem with all of this.
	I spoke to a bunch of MEPs, obviously, conservative and some European ones, and they just don't understand the things they're talking about.
	If you can believe it, there are a lot of boomers in the EU Parliament and they don't know much about the internet.
	But they do know that their lobbyists have a real problem with people being able to use social media without being controlled.
	And lobbyists come first.
	So the only, oh, I'll go on to Article 13 before I do that, actually.
	So Article 13, as you can imagine, this was not rejected when requested.
	Now, all of the dissident amendments, as I said, these were all requested by a small coalition, but the largest partner in this would have been UKIP.
	UKIP was, I went through all of the amendments in a meeting before we went in.
	UKIP was absolutely principled in its stance and did exactly the right thing.
	They were absolutely on the side of the users, and I can't commend them more highly.
	But everything they tried was just outvoted because they were completely outnumbered.
	So content sharing for Article 13, what this is going to do, this is called the upload filter for a good reason.
	And this is going to mean censorship.
	Now, what will happen is anything uploaded within the EU, the onus instead of being on the person uploading it, obviously if you upload something that's copyrighted, you're the one who's legally liable.
	Well, not anymore.
	Now it will be the platform that's legally liable.
	So they will be forced by this legislation, well, by this directive, to the way this works is it's a directive, not regulation itself.
	So it's a command for the member states to implement this legislation.
	They don't have a choice.
	They're legally liable to do this, but the EU isn't actually doing this for them.
	So it's keeping the boot on the neck.
	And they have to say thank you, Master, and pay them billions of pounds to do it.
	But anyway, so every time something's uploaded, a content filter has to check it against whatever library of copyrighted material that they have access to.
	And it has to be scanned against it.
	And obviously, if any of it is caught, then it has to be stopped.
	It has to be withheld because the platform would otherwise be liable.
	Now, this will mean without a doubt that political content is censored.
	Any kind of memes, remixes, gifts of clips of movies, still images, in fact, all of it, anything like that will be completely censored for at least a short period of time, but presumably for a long period of time, because these systems are very rarely particularly efficient.
	If these are things being done for a political reason, this will mean political censorship.
	There is absolutely no doubt about it.
	If you didn't make your meme personally in like MS Paint, if you have anything in there that is part of a copyrighted work, it could be literally a still image, it could be anything, that will get caught.
	This is not obviously commercial use of unauthorized licensed material is illegal, but it also includes non-commercial uploads.
	So it applies to literally everyone.
	It can only be uploaded with the consent of the rights holders.
	Now, what that means is basically, if you upload a GIF of a Disney film, then Disney will have the choice of just refusing to allow that to be posted to the platform.
	Obviously, they're not going to be able to make it unaffectedly interested in making a choice on every single little thing that's done.
	So, what they're going to do, undoubtedly, is just say, automatically prevent any Disney copyrighted material from going up, which I'm sure is just brilliant.
	And I'm not kidding, this goes down to literally minutia.
	There's no particular reason that Disney shouldn't want to have these things prevented from being put up as well.
	Because really, Disney have got absolutely no incentive to allow this to be done.
	What possible reason would they have?
	I mean, it might be politics that conflicts of their own, and ultimately, it's eyeballs that are competing for their content or this content.
	So, why wouldn't they just refuse it?
	The platform themselves, and it's another thing.
	So, there's going to be a great barrier to entry.
	The platforms themselves must have a complaint mechanism that's staffed by humans.
	So, when the this is just amazing, when the gif or the image that you've posted has been flagged by the computer, if you if you're using it with good intent and within the lines of fair use, you can challenge it like a YouTube copyright strike or a copyright claim for a tweet that contains a gif.
	You may well have to go into legal arbitration if you want that to be published.
	I'm not joking.
	And so, if you publish this and Disney are refusing it, if I mean, it could be that, I mean, again, we don't know because they haven't actually stressed all this, specified all this.
	But these are the possibilities.
	So, it could be that it's automatically caught and hidden.
	Well, that's undoubtedly what's going to happen.
	And then it could be that if it goes to a moderation, it has to go to a human, which, I mean, if YouTube is any judge, that could take weeks to get your tweet.
	And YouTube, I mean, a lot of YouTube videos are uploaded every day, but I imagine far more tweets and GIFs are sent every day because they're just easier to create, like the tweet itself and the Facebook post, whatever.
	So, I imagine the backlog is going to be even larger.
	So, it has to go to some sort of moderation with a human.
	And for some reason, if that's not good enough, the users then must have access to an independent body for arbitration.
	So, this is basically the bureaucratization of your memes.
	If you're trying to post, and the main problem with this is you post something political that's funny and timely, and you post it.
	Well, the momentum's gone because then it gets caught by the algorithm, gets put into the queue, and two weeks later, your particularly witty, striking while the iron is hot meme that would have gained a lot of traction and would have actually changed people's minds and influenced their opinions.
	Well, the time's passed, and you can just deal with that because Disney have got a profit margin because they have various that the various bloody publications have a profit margin, and the EU wants a cut of that money.
	So, you just have to get used to it.
	Your ability to express yourself is absolutely going to be infringed.
	There's also going to be a harmonization of procedure.
	Now, what this means is the EU imposing the same law across every member state because that's what the EU is trying to do.
	Um, what was the other thing I was going to say?
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	So, with Article 11, the link tax, I find this particularly interesting that large journalists and newspaper outlets are even interested in this being done, and apparently, they are.
	I mean, what it's going to do again is create a barrier to entry for smaller publications because sharing your links on social media is how you build an audience.
	So, you can find examples of this like Quillette.
	You know, the things they've been saying have gained traction because they've been retweeted on Twitter and shared on Facebook and whatnot.
	And they've started to really gain an audience and gain some influence within the public dialogue.
	This isn't going to happen anymore because the public platforms will be financially liable.
	So, why would they do it?
	Unless they buy a license from Quillette, I suppose.
	Why would they do that if Quellette's an absolute bunch of nobodies?
	It would just be easy to say no, I'm not going to bother.
	So, it's going to prevent small, and again, like a place like Quillette, dissonant outlets from growing their own audiences.
	Really, what this is going to do is kind of lock in the existing status quo.
	That's what all of this is about.
	It's deliberately designed to prevent your freedom of expression.
	And a group of the UKIP MEPs, I've got a video that I'm going to be putting up in long form on my live channel, and I'm going to take sections of it for you guys and put this on this channel because you would not believe the way the EU is run.
	I mean, there's about a combined experience, about 50 years of being in the EU parliament with these four MEPs, and some of the things they were telling me were just absolutely unbelievable.
	I'm telling you now, thank God for Brexit.
	I don't care how much of a bad Brexit it is at this point, I just want out after learning what I've learned after being there.
	Um, so yeah, to summarize, they don't know how they're going to do this, but they definitely are going to do this, and it's all about bringing Silicon Valley to heel.
	I was in the debates yesterday, and there was a huge amount of envy and greed that was on display.
	That was the purpose of all of this, and a lot of it was about prestige as well.
	I think they feel that they are under the heel of Silicon Valley, and like I said, the UKIP MEPs were saying that UKIP became popular because of social media, and they think that there is a distinct drive against these kind of outsiders coming to the fore because of what happened in 2015, I think it was, or 2016, whichever one, with UKIP forming pressure groups, and it's damaging the EU.
	And they want to prevent that from happening in the future.
	And the same with Five Star and various other quote-unquote far-right groups that are forming across Europe and gaining traction.
	They're doing this via social media, and these people want it to stop.
	What else?
	Oh, yeah, right.
	So, when the votes are going through, it's very much like an auction or a cattle market or something.
	Very, very quick.
	And I mean, they whip through.
	It must be like dozens of amendments are voted on in like 10, 15 minutes.
	And at the end of it, I mean, there were smatterings of applause from the overwhelmingly pro-directive groups in there.
	And they're larger than the anti-directive groups by quite a margin, in my opinion.
	The question isn't whether this is going to happen.
	The question is on what terms is it going to happen.
	And I mean, I imagine that the radical pro-directive groups are quite smaller, quite a great deal smaller than the overall majority that want it to happen, at least in some fashion.
	But there was a lot of applause when that happened.
	And when it finally passed, they were absolutely thrilled.
	It was, I mean, there was a standing evasion for about a minute.
	And then after that, some chap, I didn't know who it was, I couldn't see them, but I heard them yell.
	Let me just get, I've written it down somewhere.
	It was just, I mean, then this person, bravo to this person, because they were absolutely correct.
	They yelled, this is an enormous strike against freedom of speech on the internet.
	And then that interruption was met by loud booing by lots of people booing this person, despite the fact this person is absolutely correct.
	This will necessarily censor media and political statements in the European Union.
	On the plus side, this will only happen in the European Union.
	On the bottom side, on the negative of that, I don't know how much a VPN is actually going to help.
	I mean, because the link tax particularly has actually been done before.
	It's actually been done twice before.
	It's been done in Spain, it's been done in Germany.
	In Germany, they had to create a free opt-in when it came to Google News because obviously Google, like, well, we're not going to pay you for simply aggregating your content.
	I mean, that's doing you a favor.
	That's why would we pay for that?
	And so all the news publications offered a free opt-in to Google so they could still aggregate the content and Google wouldn't be charged.
	In Spain, they didn't do this, and Google simply shut down their news aggregator in Spain.
	So Google News no longer exists in Spain, and it's still not there, even though this failed.
	In fact, the way I was reading an article on this, and the way they described it is the quote news economy of Spain collapsed.
	So there's that.
	But that doesn't disappear doesn't deter them.
	Two failures prior don't deter them on this.
	They're still going to push ahead, but for all of Europe now.
	So this is ridiculous, but what are you going to do?
	That's what the EU is about.
	But the EU considered this to be a massive win.
	You could see the people on the floor, they were absolutely thrilled.
	I mean, there was a real, like, a real sense of joy in the air, even among the sort of people watching from the balconies.
	Everyone was really thrilled about this.
	I'm thinking, wow, all of these people, you know, who obviously have vested interests in this, very pleased that this happened.
	And it's directly at the expense of the average user.
	It's at the expense of you.
	So there's a good chance that these social media networks are just going to pull out of Europe.
	And there are already examples of them, too.
	It's obviously Spain and Germany.
	But there's also, if you go to the LA Times, if you live in Europe, go to the LA Times website.
	And I'll do it now and I'll tell you exactly what it says.
	So the LA Times, when you go there, it says, unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries.
	We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that fully support our support a full range of digital offerings to the EU market.
	We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.
	That's what you're going to get on Facebook, Twitter, and any other social media platform.
	They're just going to pull out.
	Well, that's not, that might not strictly be true.
	If they don't pull out, they'll be your only options and they're going to be heavily regulated.
	And again, like I said, it'll be because these ones can afford it.
	But on something like Gab on Minds, that's what they're going to have to do.
	They're specifically locking out European users from using these apps and social media platforms.
	What can we do?
	Apart from votes, and that's apparently failed this time.
	So, yeah, basically, this is not good.
	However, all is not lost, although I'm honestly, I'll be amazed if we can recover this.
	So, this was a vote on the form of the proposal.
	So, the directive has gone through, the amendments have all been added, and now these will be finalized, and you know, all the bureaucrats will do their work in the background.
	And then in spring, there will be another vote on the finalized form.
	Now, this won't be a vote that you can change it or anything like that because that's already been done.
	This will be an all-or-nothing vote where it will be adopting the thing as it stands now or rejecting it outright.
	Now, I mean, that's obviously we're going to have to have another campaign against it when it comes to it.
	And if you want me to, I'm happy to come back over to the European Parliament then and do some more coverage.
	But given the atmosphere and the ethos of the European Union, I am honestly not very optimistic about being able to get that rejected.
	But we do have some time yet.
	So, I mean, don't stop emailing, I guess.
	Just keep on at the MEPs.
	I mean, I don't know what else to do.
	I don't even know if we have any other options.
	But, but yeah, so come the vote in spring next year.
	We'll find out.
	And that will be when this actually is adopted and comes into effect.
	But this is going to have a severe impact on your internet usage if it goes through as it is.
	And I can't see anything other than this final vote stopping it from doing so.
	Sorry, I haven't been looking at the chat, but I needed to go through my notes and make sure I got all of this correct.
	I'll answer some questions now if you want, because I was there for three days and honestly, I was really long days.
	I'm really tired.
	But I'll answer questions, man.
	I didn't know you did live streams, mate.
	Yeah, I've got a live stream channel.
	Just go sagon life.
	Press F for Europe.
	Yep, F. Saga of Applebees.
	I don't know what that means.
	Don't tread on my internet, EU.
	Too late.
	They're already treading.
	Have a point on me.
	Thank you.
	We will draw our own memes and grant free use to any meme drawings produced.
	Well, yeah, that's what's going to have to happen.
	Get used to memes that have been made in LS Paint because that's going to be the future of political meme in the European Union.
	The technist state requests a meeting.
	I don't even know what that means.
	Can we get some down with the EU in here?
	No more unelected supranational officials.
	Oh, man.
	This second, I did sort of like a panel interview with the UKIP MEPs.
	And like, it's not even that they're undemocratic, it's actually that they're anti-democratic.
	But I'll put that up tomorrow so you can see it in full.
	The EU is the new tower of Nimrod, and it must fall eventually, whether it be by man's hand or God's hand.
	You know, that's a really interesting point.
	I have absolutely no idea why the European Parliament is unironically modelled off the Tower of Babel picture.
	Like, I can't remember which one it is.
	But, I mean, you would think that the story of God smiting them for their arrogance and scattering them to the winds and whatnot and confusing their tongues would be a lesson for the EU, but apparently not.
	I mean, it's weird, the hubris of this.
	But it's mental.
	So ready to move to the land of the free yet?
	You can always apply for refugee status.
	No, I'm not leaving my country.
	But also, we have Brexit.
	So even if Theresa May gives us a shit Brexit and ends up crippling our economy, at least we can always petition against this.
	However, I can't remember that there was a Labour MEP today who proposed something very similar and actually tabled the legislation to make online forums that are of a certain size.
	It's like she wants them to have them be liable for the things that are posted there.
	So an online forum, not a social media platform, an online forum is going to have to have a professional staff to police things.
	And another thing I saw today was on the BBC.
	So, you know, who knows how trustworthy that is.
	They're going to demand that these things are taken down within an hour, like extremist posts.
	Now, what comes under the definition of extremist is as good as, you know, your guess is as good as mine.
	That's basically the position of continental Europe.
	So why don't we just ignore all the EU laws en masse so they can't arrest us all?
	Because it's not us that has to ignore them.
	It's the social media platforms.
	And they will be able to take further legislative action.
	So what are you going to do?
	Sargon for MP?
	Who knows?
	Remember when Obama handed over the domain name database to the UN?
	This has been in the works for a while.
	Yeah, and Apple's just sold out all of your data to China as well, by the way.
	And that's another interesting point.
	Dankila made the point that the great firewall of China wasn't built in a day.
	It was by little and little, in small steps, to get to the point they're at now.
	And the EU is actually following exactly the same path.
	It's now going in exactly the same direction.
	So I don't know why we're following the China model when it comes to internet regulation and censorship, but I really think it's the wrong direction in which we should go.
	They can pry animate memes from my cold, dead hands.
	Hoard memes, videos, content.
	The internet will be free again one day.
	Share USB sticks in the meantime.
	Dude, I know.
	Like, what a goddamn waste of our time.
	I can't believe we have to do this.
	You would think this is ridiculous.
	Like, we're in an age of unprecedented information freedom and sharing.
	And now we actually need online liberty movements to try and start pushing back against this.
	I mean, that is the opposite of where we should be right now.
	But anyway, as an Irishman, I'm beginning to be very afraid of living in my own country.
	I wonder if I could seek asylum in the true free state, the US, or is this too crazy?
	I don't know if asylum is what they'll grant me, but I'm sure you can move over there.
	I mean, everyone else does.
	The US accepts a million immigrants a year.
	What about people who write fanfics?
	That's a good question that wasn't answered by the boomers in the EU.
	And again, I stress this is being done by people who really do not understand the internet.
	You can tell this every time you talk to them.
	They have no idea what any of this involves.
	And basically, everything they're asking for is wishful thinking.
	Oh, yeah, that was another thing.
	There was an exemption.
	They do have a provision.
	There's an exemption for small and medium platforms.
	The question is, what counts as a small and medium platform?
	No one knows.
	These things aren't defined.
	Is this going to change?
	Is there going to be creeping resolution here?
	Probably, because there always has in everything else the EU has done.
	So I wouldn't exactly put my hopes on that.
	It's going to get worse, mate.
	It's going to get worse.
	I'm so confused as American.
	Could you explain why the EU just killed themselves?
	Yeah, they're tyrants.
	That's what it is.
	They're unelected tyrants.
	And the elected bodies of the EU are toothless.
	Absolutely toothless.
	MAGA FAMGA?
	I don't know what that is.
	Or pull out of the EU.
	I was about to start making videos about this sort of thing because it's driving me crazy watching.
	Do you reckon it's worth it now?
	Yeah, I think everyone should be up in arms about this.
	As many people as possible should be up in arms about this.
	This is the sort of thing that you have to, you know, like Dave Cullen probably did a good, solid video on it.
	I know he put one out.
	I haven't had time to watch it yet.
	But I know, you know, I've watched enough of this content to know it's going to be a sound video on the subject.
	Find a video that says everything you need to say.
	Make sure the normies know about it.
	Share it with everyone.
	This has to be done.
	You guys have to start raising the web because that's what we are.
	You know, we're just groups of people on the internet and it's going to require the effort of all of us.
	Praying you guys get out of this nonsense with respect to UK press F to pay with respects to Europe.
	Yeah, same here, man.
	I appreciate that.
	Fuck the total Australian EU press F.
	So has the article been approved now?
	Yes.
	Yes, it has.
	Like I said, there's one more vote where it's all or nothing.
	And that'll be next spring.
	And it's literally going to be all or nothing.
	The picture of Axel Voss celebrating is disturbing.
	Either he's a total bastard or an idiot.
	These people can't be allowed to run anything.
	Unfortunately, I mean, completely true.
	That's completely correct.
	And it is disgusting.
	But unfortunately, these people run everything.
	And I mean that.
	They are like obsessive bureaucrats that have gained control of not just an entire country, but an entire continent.
	Define fascism, the EU.
	Well, yeah, actually, this is actually falling into a relatively safe definition of fascism.
	I mean, there's an awful lot of talk about, quote, protecting European culture from being stolen from Silicon Valley.
	And what they're doing now is cracking down and imposing direct controls, but through the medium of the nation state rather than themselves as the supranational entity.
	They're doing this in the same, well, not the same way, but towards a similar end in the way that the fascists and the Nazis controlled corporations in Germany and Italy.
	It's really, it's really not that different.
	I'm going to shit post like a big fat titties.
	I love being American.
	I may be a mutt, but at least I don't need a fat license.
	Dude, I mean, I'm not saying that I don't envy you.
	You know what I mean?
	Why didn't you warn your fellow boomers, my love?
	Will the Tories bring it here after Brexit, in your opinion?
	Entirely possible.
	I think I want to stop calling the Tories the conservatives.
	I think at this point, we'll just call them Alt Labour because I'm relatively certain that Theresa May votes Labour.
	So, you know, how long before we see meme smugglers shipping our shipposts served to the US?
	Well, honestly, I think it would be the other way around.
	Because memes in the EU are going to stagnate.
	We're going to get meme smugglers from the US shipping them via USB drives to Europe.
	And I'm not even joking when I say that.
	I mean, literally, you're not going to be able to see American memes or memes outside of Europe.
	So anywhere, I mean, Africa is going to have a more free internet.
	China, probably not China, actually.
	Africa, South America, these places are going to have a more free internet than Europe.
	Incredible, isn't it?
	When you think about it, they have seized the production of memes.
	Yes, they have.
	Time to copyright the EU flag.
	Dude, it probably already is, right?
	There's a particular law.
	I don't know if there's France or the entire European Union.
	I think it's just in France.
	But it's called Panorama.
	And what that means is that if you take a photo of, say, the EU Parliament and get this, that's copyrighted by the European Union.
	Think about that.
	Normally, when you take a photo of something, you own the copyright because it's your property, your intellectual property.
	You created it.
	And under English law, common law, you become the automatic owner of anything you create.
	But not in Europe.
	The fucking EU Parliament and various other buildings as well.
	It's not just the EU Parliament.
	But if you take photos of these, you don't own the copyright for them.
	And so you could be sued.
	You could have legal action taken against you.
	I'm not joking.
	Obviously, it's unworkable.
	You know, nine out of 10 times more, 99% of the time, if not more.
	I'm sure no action is ever taken and no one knows about it because it's tiny money.
	But that's the level of control that these people want over the regular person.
	It's unbelievable.
	So the EU flag is undoubtedly already copyrighted.
	So good luck.
	How, if at all, do you think this will affect Brexit?
	Well, I tell you what, it won't affect.
	It won't affect the way that Theresa May is fucking it up.
	It's not going to affect the Checkers Agreement.
	I mean, you know, for our boomer politicians that are in charge of Brexit, they're not going to understand what any of this means or why it matters.
	But any remainers out there, I mean, literally every single fucking remainer, this is what you fucking voted for, you traitors.
	This is what you wanted.
	This is what you support.
	Get fucked.
	You boys were fantastic in the European Parliament.
	You did a good thing by being there.
	Shame the fuckers didn't listen.
	Yeah, thanks, man.
	I mean, we did our best, obviously, but you know, what are you going to do?
	We're not giant multinational corporations with vast amounts of lobbying money.
	And a lot of lobbying money is going to have changed hands in the process of this.
	I dread to even think.
	But the entire EU is essentially a racket at this point, anyway.
	These articles are not designed to protect the current media.
	It's making it hard to share cover.
	The EU is doing this to make the MSM less powerful, making the system less powerful in the process.
	Well, yeah, it is, but it's also going to mean that like people, the only entities that are going to be able to resist this are already large established corporations.
	New up and comers are not going to be able to resist this because it's not going to have the finances and the reach to be able to do anything about it.
	Even if it, I agree with you, it's not designed to lock in the current media, but that's what the effect will be.
	Regarding Binary Surfer, hey, man, regarding prying our memes from our cold dead hands, what do you think they want an EU army for?
	But that's also true.
	Which EU member state do you see leaving next, Carl?
	I would hope the Danes or the Dutch.
	But honestly, watching the Hungarians, watching Orban in the parliament, he was not.
	I mean, he was just openly get fucked, basically.
	So, yeah, I mean, I don't know, but honestly, people can't leave the EU fast enough, in my opinion.
	It is a tyrannical organization and will always be a tyrannical organization because the people running it are bureaucratic tyrants.
	Cold dead hands, prior art detected, content blocked.
	Exactly.
	Do that's that's the future.
	That's the fucking future.
	It will literally be a little thing saying, sorry, this is detected copyright thing.
	Would you like to challenge this and go into a queue?
	Just can we can we not say no definition, no acceptance?
	No, because you don't have any control over these people.
	You have absolutely no power of these people.
	And if you look at the way that Juncker acts, it shows the shit that comes out of his mouth, the fact that he's always drunk, he acts like you can't remove him from his place because you can't.
	You have no influence over this man, and he knows it.
	So what the hell can you do?
	You can't vote him out of office.
	Again, remainers.
	This is what you supported.
	IPOAC is the answer.
	Internet protocol over avian carrier.
	Let them spend their time regulating the birds.
	Yeah, we're going to have to go back to carrier pigeons for our memes.
	I don't have to keep pigeons, but I really don't want to have to go without memes.
	I think our intelligence services should now deliberately undermine the EU by starting propaganda campaigns to the misbehaving EU nations like Italy, Hungary, and Poland.
	Well, you would think that, but they're basically staffed by remainers because the establishment in every country in the European Union is pro-European Union, right?
	And there's a reason for this.
	And again, I got this from the MEPs, but it was a good point.
	They like not having responsibility.
	It's good to be paid an MP or an MEP salary without actually having to do anything.
	Because the thing we've got to remember is that these people are being paid a lot of money to not take responsibility for the things that are happening.
	So they're just rubber stamping stuff.
	It's actually not entirely dissimilar to Caesar taking over the Roman Republic and staffing the Senate with Gauls and having them as effectively a rubber stamping organization.
	It all comes now, everything comes from the dictator now, but the Senate is still there to just approve everything that he does.
	No different with the Parliament and the Commission.
	And literally, the Parliament has no power to propose legislation.
	All they can do is make amendments to the current legislation being proposed.
	And if the Commission doesn't like it, they can just reject it and just withdraw it.
	It's like, well, it's not even binding when the amendments are made and voted through the Parliament.
	It's unreal how undemocratic the European Union is.
	And I can't believe anyone is okay with any of this.
	But this is what Europe is at the moment.
	This is Europe.
	It's falling to tyranny.
	Press dollar to shit on the internet.
	Yeah, man.
	That's the great, great profile picture you've got as well.
	What can techies and data scientists do to help?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I honestly do not fucking know.
	I don't know what can be done.
	I mean, I guess all we can really do is all we can really do is get our MEPs to vote against it when it comes back next time.
	I mean, this is the problem with the EU.
	It's Byzantine.
	It's labyrinthine.
	We have no particular influence now.
	I don't know what to do.
	With hopes for your freedom of speech, thanks, man.
	Me too.
	And I don't even know what's going to happen to my channel, man.
	Like, if this comes in and we're still in the European Union, because let's be honest, we can't guarantee that we're not.
	And they force Britain to implement this.
	That means that when Britain leaves, I'm going to have to campaign to get this repealed from British law before I can continue using my channel as I do now and actually make, you know, videos with information in.
	Unless I want to buy a license, I suppose, which I guess I'll have to do.
	And we don't know anything about the costs of any of this.
	And good God.
	Would you become UKIP leader if given the opportunity?
	Seeing the incumbent resigned of their own accord.
	I've got no particular plans.
	And I think Batten is fantastic, actually.
	He's completely welcomed us all into the party with open arms.
	And okay, so just my experience in UKIP, right, has been 100% positive.
	Everyone in this party so far that I've, I'm not even, I'm not aware of anyone.
	I don't know.
	I think there was one guy with 10 followers on Twitter who was angry about it.
	But everyone has been very accepting of us because they are honestly the party of the regular person.
	And that's the overwhelming impression I get from UKIP.
	They're not far right or anything.
	What they are is just regular people who are just struggling against the power structures and who are just, I mean, a lot of them have come from business.
	A lot of them are just people who are politically interested, but they're not like career politicians or anything.
	They don't, you know, I mean, no, they don't have any vast donors or anything like that.
	Jared Batten saved the party.
	He had to raise £300,000 from the membership.
	Everyone donated to keep the party going.
	I mean, now it's on the up again because it's just come out of a downswing.
	But I mean, it's going actually really well because shit needs to be done.
	There's no way fucking with checkers.
	And there are other social issues that need to be taken into account.
	But everyone so far has just been like a regular person.
	Like you go down the pub and you'd meet that person.
	And so for you know, like Farage doing his pub tours and stuff, it's not an affectation.
	He's genuinely a kind of guy.
	I meant Farage, obviously.
	He's genuinely a kind of guy who goes down the pub and likes to smoke.
	These people are just genuinely normal people.
	And it's honestly, it's really nice.
	I've felt really welcome.
	I felt really at home in UKIP.
	Honestly, if you're listening, join UKIP.
	I'm not joking.
	It's well worth your time.
	As an American, how can I help deal a blow to the EU?
	Meme them.
	My God.
	You know, just give them no respite.
	I'm not joking.
	Just let them know that people are not fucking happy about this.
	Because if you go quiet now, that's the only thing I can think you've got.
	The fuck Europe muff freedoms.
	Yeah, man.
	Tell me about it.
	I'd love to see Thunderfoot defend this.
	Come on, Phil.
	You know that this is wrong.
	Why can't Lacha C erupt already to end this madness?
	Lacha C is Germany's Yellowstone.
	Right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I didn't know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not wishing for a natural disaster to wipe out the EU, but I mean, I'm not going to shed a tear.
	I'm joking.
	I'm joking.
	The new Reich has done what the third could not.
	Well, actually, this is interesting you say that because it's not like it wasn't Hitler's plan to have a single central European superstate.
	And he wanted the state to have utter domination over corporations in the same way.
	And I mean, I don't just mean regulation either.
	This is domination.
	This is this is.
	And it was very obvious in the debates that they were very jealous of these corporations as well and the influence they had, and the fact that they could undermine their own political aspirations by just allowing people to communicate.
	Very obvious that that is a driving motivation for all of this.
	They saw the internet lead the Arab Spring and they thought we have to stop this.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly it.
	And that was something that many MEPs said to me.
	so i'm just refreshing this um i honestly feel like setting myself on fire in front of the eu parliament just like those buddhist monks Okay, well, don't do that, but I understand the sentiment.
	I really do.
	The EU parliament is filled with so many cucks for Islam.
	I think the politically correct term is Islamophiles.
	We should utilize the grey era to our advantage by widening the definition of small and medium-sized platforms to the maximum possible parameters.
	Well, I mean, if we had any control over this, that's exactly what I'd recommend.
	But we don't have any control over this.
	I don't know how we're going to do that.
	I mean, all you could do really is email your MEPs and demand that the definition of small and medium-sized platforms, I mean, medium-sized, should be nation-state-sized.
	You know, like 100 million people.
	That should be a medium-sized platform.
	Because Facebook and YouTube and Google, billions of users, billions.
	So like 500 million should be considered medium-sized.
	Thank God I live in the US.
	My dude, if anyone ever comes for any aspect of your constitution, you've got to defend that with everything you've got because that's what's protecting you from any of this shit.
	I expect the EU to try and bring North America to heal once they subdue Europe.
	Yeah, of course.
	That's exactly what they'll do.
	They were obviously, obviously looking to become the United States of Europe and become a world power in their own right.
	I mean, they even have plans to project force into Africa and Asia once the EU is finally complete.
	Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
	You're welcome, my dudes.
	The UK and other states are all against freedom.
	You're deluded if you think you're getting out of the, if you think getting out of the EU will be enough.
	I don't think getting out of the EU will be enough, French honey badger.
	It's just the first step.
	The next step is trying to get rid of all the goddamn Labour and Tory politicians who are interested in curtailing our freedom.
	And this online forum bill that was proposed by a Labour MP, it was co-signed by Jacob Brees Mogg, which I have to say I was very disappointed about because I'm a personal fan of Jacob Brees Mog.
	I think what he's doing is great and I find him very affable and very pleasant.
	And so I'm disappointed to see him supporting this kind of socialist state control over what is just a forum.
	The point of the story of Babel is that when we work together, United, even God fears us, the EU want to be stronger than gods.
	Yes, they do.
	Anonymous flyers of memes left around the walls of Europe.
	Yeah.
	Dude, it's going to have to go back to the writing on the wall.
	And that'll be a legal graffiti.
	They stopped our ability to share memes amongst yourselves, so now you must flaunt your dankiest memes in the general public.
	They asked for this.
	Yes.
	Do they not understand this is how violent revolutions start?
	I mean, I'm not, dude, I agree.
	I think that when you take away people's speech, their ability to speak, then they only have violence left.
	What other options do they have?
	I think you make violence inevitable when you prevent people from being able to speak, but they don't seem to care.
	I mean, I guess they think they can control it.
	But it's interesting how there was a riot in Paris the other day, and no one heard about it, did they?
	No one heard a damn thing.
	What are you going to do?
	One of our Swedish MEPs said in an interview today that people were lobbying by handing out condoms.
	Interesting.
	I don't know whether the I didn't see that.
	But would it be possible for some concerned Yangs to tweet the president to pass a trade embargo against the EU and protest against this bill?
	Of course it would be.
	And I really wish Trump would step in and say, oi, why are you being tyrannical?
	As the leader of the free world and the president of the freest nation to have ever existed, and it's not like there isn't a significant European or at least British influence on America.
	This is where all of this came from.
	Why are you turning our inspiration into a tyrannical superstate?
	This is wrong.
	But I mean, I imagine he's got a lot on his plate, so I'm not exactly holding out hope.
	Am I going to be the next Prime Minister of the UK?
	No, that's simply not possible.
	Mass MEMA migration to the US soon.
	Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I mean, I'm not saying that they can't.
	Europe isn't falling into tyranny.
	They're charging Lemming-like off the cliff into tyranny, screaming, whip me, beat me, make me write bad checks.
	Yes, they are.
	They love it every second of it.
	And again, the atmosphere in the European Parliament was jubilant when this passed.
	They were thrilled.
	They think they're going to be protecting Europe, protecting European culture.
	Aren't we making the world a better place?
	One bureaucratic piece of legislation at a time.
	And it's like, no, that's not how the world is made a better place.
	It's made how it's made a more oppressive place.
	And if you're interested, you can look up Bertrand Russell.
	I can't remember exactly what book I'm thinking of, but Bertrand Russell wrote quite well, a fair bit about the tyranny of bureaucracy and how the bureaucrat becomes self-serving and the opponent of the individual that he is meant to serve.
	But I won't go into it.
	Anyway, this will force the blockchain internet.
	America.
	Maybe.
	How about try rioting?
	Voting hasn't worked.
	Well, I'm not against the idea of protesting.
	I don't recommend rioting.
	But I definitely think protests at the European Parliament are probably something that maybe we should arrange.
	Do I have to buy a ham radio to listen to you from now on?
	No, because if there's anything copyrighted in my videos, then I won't be able to show you it because it'll be caught by the algorithm.
	so i'll end up sitting at a desk with paper in front of me you can't see alex jones style and i'll have to read from can i read I don't know.
	I'll have to summarize what's in them for you to know what I'm talking about.
	He just wanted to play games.
	Man, tell me about it.
	All I wanted is to play fucking games.
	Hey, Sargon, do you have a license for that free thought?
	Did you consult with the Ministry of Truth?
	Now, that's Ministry of Truth is exactly how this is going.
	We should work to build a pro-sovereignty member states, right?
	Lobbying organization, fight 5.
	That's what UKIP is.
	Honestly, that is exactly what UKIP is.
	UKIP is the regular person's voice, the pro-sovereignty member states' rights organization.
	That's it.
	Theresa May may be above bribing you lawmakers, but I'm not.
	Start a Creative Commons news service, read news, right, in your articles, and quote them, featuring those in vids.
	That's not a bad idea, but people are going to have to fund it because we're never going to find outside funding and it's never going to be monetizable, obviously.
	Well, probably not.
	Not in any significant way, anyway.
	So basically, this would have to be done as like a Patreon-funded, crowd-funded endeavor.
	I'm not saying it can't be done either.
	I'm sure it could be if talented and dedicated people could do it.
	But they would have to raise a lot of money because you're going to have to have full-time professional journalists working on this.
	And they're going to have to have a range of a diverse range of opinion.
	They're going to have to codes of conduct, ethics, and all this sort of stuff.
	But again, I'm not saying it can't be done.
	And I would certainly support it if it could be done.
	And it was done well.
	Will this allow BuzzFeed, Salon, et cetera, to deny people, specific people, permission to link their articles, quote their headlines, etc.?
	Yeah.
	I mean, blanket.
	They can do it to anyone, everyone.
	But yeah, they could absolutely permit some and not others.
	Europeans need to wake up faster.
	Nothing will get done through the corrupt system.
	Guillotines for the treasonous elites.
	I can't encourage violence, which I suppose a guillotine would be.
	But it's not like I don't understand the sentiment.
	Would you do an interview with Michael Malice?
	He's an objectivist with a sizable social media following, friends with Aaron.
	If yes, how should he contact you?
	He can email me.
	I don't know who that is, but I'm happy to talk to people.
	I wonder how this will affect Minds and Gab badly.
	Frankly, I don't think there is any advantage for small startup social media companies.
	There's absolutely nothing that helps them.
	So Viva Vendetta was a documentary.
	Are you ready to save your?
	Am I ready to shave my face bald, Sargon?
	I'm not ready to shave my face bald, but it was a documentary.
	Except instead of in vivo vendetta, it's always portrayed as like the, you know, the populist right-wing, like neo-Nazi types.
	But it's actually the other way.
	It's the elitist left-wing socialist types that are doing this.
	The Third Amendment is not the only one under attack by Silicon Valley techno-fascists.
	Nope.
	UKIP are the only truly liberal party left.
	Yes, they are.
	Yes, they bloody are.
	And they are actually liberals as well.
	I've been talking to them a lot about ideology.
	And they're all just something going, well, we're not, you know, they got infiltrated by a bunch of conservatives when they started getting big, a bunch of conservatives.
	And they think it was sent as a part of a kind of plot within the Conservative Party.
	But they've managed to get rid of these people in the meantime.
	And they've actually sort of set it back on the footing of the regular people's party, which is fantastic.
	Yannis Koin Mickey intensifies.
	Man, I tell you why.
	It felt good to say that the European Union must be destroyed.
	Well, at least they haven't taxed your tea yet.
	My tea is already taxed.
	So bad I live in America.
	To be fair, your tea is probably taxed as well.
	Do you think the goal of a militarized EU will be to leave NATO?
	Ooh.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it might become an inevitable outcome.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to think about that.
	I will die for my constitution and country.
	Mad respect for anyone who's willing to do the same for their country and fellow countrymen.
	Keep fighting.
	Yeah, but to be fair, would you die for France in the state it's in right now if you were a Frenchman?
	Would you want to die for that?
	I don't think I would.
	If you were German, would you want to die for your country?
	What are you dying for?
	Exactly.
	People who sell you out to the entire world and then keep you down under the thumb.
	What the hell are you saying?
	If anything, you'd be dying for freedom.
	At least fighting for it.
	Moo cosplay man.
	Seriously, what about European cosplayers?
	Oh, I dude, I have no idea, but I can't imagine it's good news.
	Again, the problem with all of this is genuinely vague.
	You know, we haven't had a lot of stuff properly defined.
	And why would they?
	If they ill-define things, and it can be whatever they fucking want it to be.
	But yeah, I don't know, I'm afraid.
	Honestly, if I had the money, I would leave the UK and move to the US.
	I feel my country is becoming a lost cause more and more every day.
	Well, honestly, it'd be better if people didn't move to the US if they complain about these things, but get active in politics.
	We have to fight back.
	And that requires us to actually start getting people that we like elected.
	And you'll notice that the Conservative Party at the moment are, they kept out Aaron Banks, I think it is, the founder of the Leave Means Leave campaign or leave.eu.
	I can't remember which one it was.
	But it was a large Brexit campaign, pro-Brexit campaign.
	And the Conservatives prevented him from joining just because he's a Brexiteer.
	And they've been refusing other Brexiteers and ex-UKIPers from joining because they're not the party of Brexit.
	They're the party of Remain.
	And they've come out of the woodwork completely.
	And they're going against Boris right now because Boris is a decent chap and a staunch Brexiteer.
	Mr. Johnson, when they get too much for you, UKIP is waiting.
	What if member states refuse to comply?
	Then they get sanctions.
	They lose their voting rights.
	They get fines and these all end up going to like the Hague and international courts and all this sort of stuff.
	I mean, not the Hague probably, but like, you know, various international courts, there will be consequences and they will never be the same.
	But yeah, they'll lose their voting rights within the European Union in the actual parliaments and stuff.
	Not that the voting rights mean much anyway, but they'll lose them anyway.
	European army, French soldiers against German citizens and vice versa.
	Yes, they want a European army.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It'll be people from different areas of Europe that used to suppress rebellions in other areas of Europe.
	So, they have no particular emotional ties to the people they're suppressing.
	So, this is how democracy dies with thunderous applause.
	Yeah, I can't believe George Lucas wrote something so prophetic, but I tell you what, man, the memes of the Senate in the prequels unbelievably accurate.
	And the EU Parliament really does resonate in that way.
	It reminds me of the prequels of Star Wars.
	It's exactly that kind of giant bureaucratic nonsense.
	And it's like a juggernaut.
	It's overwhelming.
	You can feel the constant grind of thousands, presumably, of different people.
	And you can't really get a handle on it.
	And I think it's been designed that way.
	And I mean, people who've worked there for decades don't really understand it.
	It's just like, Jesus.
	And like David Coburn said in the interview I put up, you wouldn't design a system like this.
	This is clearly something that's been patched together over decades.
	You wouldn't make this, design it to be like this from the start.
	The EU is the largest pro-First and Second Amendment advertisement at this point.
	This is why you never give up any rights.
	Completely agree, you are so completely correct.
	Freedom-minded hackers should punish these officials by exposing them.
	I'm sure many of them are Pedos and other deviant types.
	Well, I wouldn't know about any of that, but I mean, that would be useful.
	I'm not saying hack anyone, but I mean, who knows?
	You know, I don't know about these people.
	First, they came for the shit posters.
	Yeah, they did, but everyone's been speaking up.
	It's just that we have no particular power.
	I'm in the process of downloading my favorite YouTuber's videos on a four-terabyte external hard drive.
	No, no, no, it's enough.
	I feel like I'm a librarian trying to save as many books from the book-burning mobs.
	It's deeply disturbing.
	Yeah, it's worrisome, isn't it?
	I mean, one, I'm liking the fact that BitShoot exists because it automatically backs up any of my videos.
	It just rips them off my YouTube channel, and then it's a backup that's decentralized and distributed among the like BitTorrent style.
	And it's fantastic.
	And that's what I'm using as a backup library at the moment.
	Promise me you'll do a live stream with Freeman Alternative about this.
	I don't know who that is, but I'm happy to have a chat with them if they want.
	I mean, this is something that a lot of people need to hear about.
	We will never surrender.
	The US will help supply memes against the Germans just like in World War II.
	History repeats itself, a Sargon hashtag Alex Jones was right.
	Wow, yeah.
	I mean, it's not like the globalists are coming to censor you.
	What's happened?
	Well, a bunch of globalists have just censored us, starting with Alex Jones.
	How is he wrong?
	Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
	JFK, it's true.
	Sargon, do you think they'll start purging and gulaging and bowling by the victory?
	No.
	Well, actually, yes, actually, so you've got the European arrest warrant, which again, you'll see more in the interview with the MEPs I did today.
	I mean, this is a terrifying, terrifying invention.
	So, someone, right?
	Okay, so the way this works in continental wise like Napoleonic codes.
	So, when you're accused, you have to prove yourself innocent rather than them having to prove you guilty.
	So, if someone in, say, like Romania decides that you are being accused in, say, Britain, then the British police will come and get you, and you will be extradited to that country and held while you are trying to prove your innocence.
	It's fucking madness.
	The EU is just obviously a tyrannical state and needs to be stopped.
	Do you think they'll start also as a struggling American entrepreneur?
	Fuck the EU, dude.
	Totally with you.
	So you pick with Nigel.
	Does he mean that he's on board of you guys?
	Is he on good terms with Baton?
	Because I'm a fan of Nigel and New My Grandad, who also stood for UKIP.
	PS, get rid of Damian Collins.
	I'm not sure who Damien Collins is.
	I mean, he's an MEP, Nigel, and he did sit in with the UKIP meeting today that I was in.
	So I hope he's on board.
	I think him and Baton have got a frosty relationship, but I mean, they can work together, so that's fine.
	I will talk to Freemalnative, French Honey Badger.
	We need to create the Kekestani News Network.
	Yeah, dude, seriously.
	We're at the point where we need a Creative Commons news network, which is effectively what Kekestan is.
	Creative Commons meme smiths.
	EU confirm for EU confirmed for white nibbers.
	Yes, I agree.
	Actually, no, it's actually worse.
	They're basically like Stalinists, but they're not.
	No, that's not true.
	They're more like fascists, actually.
	They are genuinely more like fascists.
	They're not interested in taking your individual property.
	What they're interested in is controlling every aspect of your life.
	I'm Polish, but traveling through the US right now, and I'm seriously tempted to drop my trip, return early, and start lobbying my government to leave the EU.
	You can lobby now.
	You can email them now.
	You don't have to come back.
	You can do it from wherever you are.
	You've got the internet.
	Could you not just use a VPN to get around the stupid EU laws?
	Best of love from the US.
	Maybe.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I assume that that's going to be our first option.
	But I mean, I literally don't know.
	So I wish I could tell you.
	I assume that's going to be something that's an option.
	All Finn.
	But the thing is, even that, I mean, like, what if you get caught?
	I don't know.
	All things vote for PS.
	They are our only chance out of the EU.
	Where do you think the migrants will come when the carcass of Sweden is picked clean?
	Good question, my friend.
	Please don't send any more because I really have to go to bed sinks.
	I am absolutely shattered.
	It's been a really long week and stressful as well.
	Well, I'll finish the lizard there, but please don't say anymore.
	Am I the only one who sees another world war if this continues?
	Except you would probably call it a civil war, there's bastards.
	No, I mean, the way this is going, it's going to get worse.
	Period is better.
	Imagine a fully realized EU calling for airstrikes against Silicon Valley if the US doesn't bend to its will.
	Thankfully, that won't happen.
	At least not anytime soon, anyway.
	This is Meme Wars episode 5.
	The Globalists Strike Back.
	Yes, it is.
	Yes, it fucking is.
	Meme Trump and Brexit into existence.
	Now, the Globalists are taking their revenge.
	Also, I'm not joking.
	Also, there's an American.
	I've just been wondering, Mogmentum or Boris.
	I don't think Mog's going to stand the party leader.
	So, Boris, definitely Boris.
	I like Boris.
	I've always had a soft spot for him.
	He's not a bad guy, you know.
	And that's he's he is a lot.
	He is very much like the British Trump in many ways, except he's not as belligerent because he's British.
	Trump and Brexit with a Proton Torpedo to the Globalist Death Star.
	Yeah, but now they're back with a fucking star killer base.
	Honestly, I think if something isn't done, there'll be a war with the EU and one of its member states inevitable in 10-ish years.
	I'm not going to rule that out, man.
	I don't know.
	What should be done if one's country is too far gone?
	I don't know.
	I don't know if there is such a thing as too far gone.
	I think anything we turned around, you just have to make people actually get off their asses and do it.
	So, how many times have you called a boomer, you filthy boomer?
	I don't know.
	What will happen to Let's Play in Live Stream video games?
	Good fucking question.
	They're copyrighted, I presume.
	Again, we don't know because it's so goddamn vague.
	And exactly that.
	They think, oh, well, we'll do it for like movies and music because these poor struggling artists who you know work for Sony and you should see like there's a lobbying group.
	I can't remember the name of it, but it's a lobbying group for music, musicians.
	And I went and had a look at the Wikipedia page and they're like, we represent Paul McCartney.
	We represent, you know, and people like that.
	It's like, oh my God, these are these multi-millionaire artists that are whining they don't have another yacht or something.
	My college tutor is pushing the agenda that Article 13 is a result of Brexit.
	No, that's retarded.
	It's not the result of Brexit.
	Why are there so many retards out there?
	I don't know, but your college tutor is wrong.
	They're just flat wrong.
	This has been on the agenda for a while.
	It's not the result of Brexit.
	Great men do not seek power.
	They have power thrust to prompt them.
	We just wanted to play games.
	Sorry on.
	You're the future PM that Britain deserves.
	Please run for the future.
	The thing is, right, the way that the British Parliament works, you don't vote for the president or PM in this case.
	Unlike you do in America, we vote for the president.
	What happens is everyone votes for their local MEPs in their particular constituency.
	And then the party with the majority of MPs, the winner, I think 300, you have to get somebody majority, something like that.
	Then they can form a government with consent of the Queen.
	Obviously, obviously the Queen wouldn't refuse.
	But then they form a government and they get to choose the party leader and the party leader becomes the Prime Minister.
	So I UKIP have got zero MPs at the moment.
	So there is absolutely no way I can become the prime minister.
	But it's not impossible for me to become an MP.
	So, you know, maybe.
	Save Europe, Kill Merkel.
	No, we're not going to kill.
	I don't even know if this is Merkel's doing, to be honest.
	I don't think this is Merkel.
	I think this is actually, I don't know what you call it.
	I suppose you call it the European deep state.
	But basically, one of the things, again, this will be something that David Coburn explains in the video I'll put up tomorrow.
	It's going to be an hour-long sort of interview with these guys, but I'll put the clips up on my main channel so you can see like 10-minute clips.
	And I tell you what, right?
	With these 10-minute clips, I'm going to try and make them so they're very shareable.
	Because, I mean, these are, you know, these are professional MEPs.
	They're elected officials.
	They're not, and they get paid more than the MPs in our country as well.
	An MEP gets paid more than an MP.
	It's crazy.
	But these will be in sort of like 10-minute segments.
	Please, if you're in Britain or you have British friends, please share these with them.
	Because one of the things that the MPs point is like, I was like, do you ever talk to the press about these things?
	They're like, yeah, all the time.
	The press just never published them.
	They never, ever publish the things that they're saying.
	So it's going to be up to you guys, the citizen, to share these clips with people who are pro-Romain, I would assume, and say, look, this is what you're supporting.
	These people have been in the European Union for like, you know, between sort of like five and 20 years.
	This is what they're saying.
	They know they're there on the ground every day.
	This is what you're supporting.
	And hopefully it'll help change people's mind.
	Because another thing about the UKIP MEPs, they're totally normal people.
	They reminded me of my family, frankly.
	They reminded me of my aunts and uncles.
	Just completely normal people.
	Just regular guys and gals.
	Adam and his apple.
	Would be good for you to get involved in the ultimate free speech demonstration.
	Hashtag letmo fly.
	Pin to my Twitter for details.
	Okay, I'll have a look at that afterwards.
	Thanks, Captain Marl.
	Richard Markham.
	Joe Sugg to take a knee direct during Strictly.
	Joe Sugg.
	I don't watch Strictly come Dancing Man, sorry.
	The only thing that will stop this thing getting past the Riots Revolution.
	No, I don't think there'll be riots or protests or anything like that would stop it.
	I think they'll carry it on.
	UKIP needs to lobby the EU.
	We need a lobbying arm.
	Yeah, we don't have money.
	We don't have the money to lobby these people.
	That's the thing.
	We would have to give MEPs a lot of money and various, you know, in the same way that the interest groups in the European Union already do.
	But we don't have the cash for that.
	We don't have we don't have the manpower for that.
	It's, I mean, Britain makes up about 8% of the European Parliament as well.
	And again, like we were saying, like they were saying earlier, the idea of reforming the EU from the inside is a dream that will never happen.
	It's just not possible.
	Anyway, so glad I left the EU a long time ago.
	Too bad Pirate Party has never got anywhere.
	Oh, that was, yeah, okay, that's nothing.
	There's a woman called Julia Reider.
	She's a German lady who's an MEP for the Pirate Party.
	She did some sterling work trying to resist Article 13.
	I can't remember what her Twitter handle is, but if you type in Julia R-E-D-A, I'm sure you'll be able to find out.
	She's well worth following on Twitter.
	She's done spectacular work against this.
	She's been a really strong advocate against it, been very principled on the issue.
	Sargon, will you check out the liberalist booth at MythCon?
	Of course.
	I don't see why I wouldn't sit on it for a bit, you know, if people wanted me to.
	Happy to do it.
	But like I said, I'm not going to go through any more man because I'm really tired.
	It's been a long day, been a long week, in fact.
	But we did our best, which I think is all we can reasonably be expected to do.
	And I didn't speak to Julia Reider.
	I did try and get in contact with her, but I don't know if she was in Brussels or not.
	But I did want to interview her because I wanted her opinion on it because she's been, oh, at Senficon, I think it is.
	Yeah, S-E-N-F-I-C-O-N.
	She's been doing really great stuff.
	And good luck to her and everyone else.
	But anyway, thanks for tuning in, chaps.

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