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April 12, 2017 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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Why Don't I Criticise the Right
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So I got this comment from Kian Dochty and I thought it was worth addressing because it's something that I do get thrown at me by SJWs and I thought I'd explain it.
Sargon, why do you really criticize the right?
It always seems that you really talk about issues that matter like abortion, etc. and are constantly apologetic to the right and community.
There is obviously a reason the EDL fucking endorsed you or the fucking EDL endorsed you.
And it's obviously not because they liked your total war plays.
Okay, that's fair comment, and I think it deserves an answer.
I rarely criticise the right because I don't really care about the right.
as far as i'm concerned they're normally in the wrong and so it's just i just haven't got any time I don't want to improve them, basically.
Because when a sensible person receives criticism, even if that criticism is harshly delivered and with an eye to mockery, a sensible person will remove their ego from the situation and then analyze the mockery and the criticism and find the, you know, to find the actual criticism and then say, right, okay, isn't that something about myself that they have a legitimate point about?
And if someone sensible does that, then they'll take pains to try and fix that problem.
Even if it's a long process, they'll say, okay, I'll try and do this in future.
I don't want that to happen to the right.
I don't think I can make them improve in the ways I want like I think I could the left.
Or maybe that's just me rationalizing.
Maybe it's because I always considered myself a lefty and so I want to improve my team.
But either way, I just, I don't know what I'd say to them.
I would basically be having the same arguments you have with them.
And so I don't think it'd be all that productive or all that remarkable or even worth listening to.
And honestly, I think there are a lot of people on the left who feel how I feel.
I mean, I did an audience survey back when I had about 300,000 subscribers and about 67, 70% of my subscriber base consider themselves left-wing.
They're just really pissed off at the left because of this collectivist identity politics bullshit because they're individualist liberals.
And they want some fucking representation, I think, in a lot of ways.
They want to know that someone is saying the things that they believe that they can see the problems with their left.
Because that's how I feel.
I mean, for fuck's sake, I have to be the gadfly in this situation because you don't seem to understand how cancerous the left is.
I mean, the right is not good to poor people, but I don't think they're trying to actively undermine Western civilization.
I don't think they're going to start pumping out an ideology that's going to advocate for, like, open borders, advocate for communism and socialism and all this sort of crap that's infested the left.
I don't think they're going to do any of that sort of shit.
I think at worst, they will be mildly oppressive to poor people.
And I say mildly, I don't think they're going to be that oppressive to poor people and minorities.
I think, you know, it'll be like, well, you just have to, you know, and I would advocate against it.
Whatever form of oppression they are imposing, I would definitely advocate against it.
But the things that the left are fucking arguing for and fighting for are so systemically catastrophic in the long run if they were to get their way.
And they call themselves radicals.
They call for the overthrow of capitalism.
They call for communism and socialism.
They call for all of this cultural Marxist stuff to sum it up in a phrase.
You know what I'm talking about.
All of this intersectional stuff that is just designed to tear apart the Western liberal tradition is coming from the left.
So it has to fucking stop because that is the thing I think needs protecting more than abortion rights.
Okay, you can't get an abortion.
Oh, okay.
That, yeah, it sucks.
It sucks for you.
What are you going to do?
I'm going to have to raise my child.
Oh, well, there we go.
Millions do it.
It's not the end of your life, for fuck's sake.
You act like this, oh, abortion rights are the most important thing.
Well, no, they're the least important thing in the fucking world.
Do you understand?
Every other right is more important than your right to get an abortion.
Fuck me.
These cunts are shutting down free speech and free expression and free thought on college campuses.
You're like, yeah, but what if a woman can't get an abortion?
Well, then she'll have to learn to use condoms or birth control or she'll just get pregnant.
Okay, it's not the end of the fucking world.
But you know what?
Walking into a fucking social totalitarian sort of like system where you can't speak out of line is terrifying to me.
And I mean, imagine you.
Have you seen any of Tim Poole's work in Sweden?
There was a psychologist, a professor at a university who wanted to speak out against political correctness to Tim Poole, but felt so afraid that he had to have his voice and appearance blurred and masked in some way.
Because otherwise, he would get in a lot of fucking trouble.
Who knows where they'd fucking go?
And that's just to point out that, yeah, okay, political correctness has become like a pathology in Sweden.
And it's become the new fucking thought police.
And that is literally what it is.
I mean, you know what an implicit bias test is, right?
Look it up.
I'm not joking.
These people want to police your fucking thoughts.
They care about whether you're biased or not.
It's my business.
I have the biases I want to have.
It's not your right to come into my head and make accusations going, you're biased.
Well, so what if I fucking was?
It doesn't mean I'm, you know, I'm going to actually discriminate against someone.
I know that I'm biased in a way, if I'm biased in that way.
I know I'm biased towards Total War games, that you're fucking...
I know I'm biased to my own countrymen.
You know, it's fine.
I can account for this bias when I'm making decisions.
It doesn't rule me.
And you think everyone is just ruled by this.
You know?
And even if they were, even if they were, it's still not a mandate to try and fuck with my thoughts.
Just fucking no, man.
Just fucking no.
You don't have the fucking right.
And so I'm not going to fucking accede to it.
Just know.
The end of story.
And you know, right?
I don't think the EDL really have much of a political ideology from what I've seen of them.
They just seem like extremely nationalist.
But not in any particularly like intellectualized way.
They just want to stop these fucking foreigners because they have problems with foreigners.
That's why.
That's literally their opinion.
Word for word, in fact.
because i've spoken to them but i don't i don't even i mean a lot of them were probably a lot low legs labor voters until they started bringing in massive amounts of immigrants And then they're like, shit, I need to vote BMP.
Because these immigrants are really fucking things up around here.
Because for some people in poor areas of the country, they actually feel that way.
That's how they actually feel.
And that's why people are doing it.
It's not that they're evil.
It's that they're scared.
And I think, I watched the footage of that guy at the EDL endorsing me.
He also endorsed Rocking Mr. E, which is very interesting because he's very firmly a classical liberal as well.
He hates fascism.
He hates communism.
And he sees a lot more communism than he sees actual fascism.
And so do I, to be honest.
And I can completely understand why they endorsed us.
Because we are trying to represent the English intellectual tradition and say, no, this is a better tradition.
It's produced freer societies, more prosperous societies.
This is better than fucking socialism, than collectivism, than any of the continental crap that comes out of France and Germany.
Ours is fucking demonstrably better because it's produced better and more fucking expansive societies.
And it's produced people who are concerned with racism and sexism.
People who are concerned that people should be free to make their own choices and shouldn't be held down by arbitrary characteristics that they had no choice over, that are physically preventing them as much as humanly possible.
And simply not discriminating on the fact that someone's black or female is an easy solution.
It's an easy fix.
You don't have to do anything.
It doesn't cost any money, or it shouldn't.
These social justice courses, all in universities and governments and corporations, all these, honestly, they will have a diversity officer in every single one of these giant corporations.
And they will have, they've got all these government NGOs and all this that are all that sort of nonsense.
And it's like, and you sit there going, why don't you criticize the right?
except because the right actually isn't really in control still.
The right has achieved traditional political power, but the left commands social capital.
That's what they do.
They command pressure.
And they can pull a huge amount of eyeballs onto something and then morally grandstand over it.
Whether it's true or not.
And this is exactly what's happening to Spicer right now.
Oh, he denied the Holocaust.
No, he fucking didn't.
No, he didn't.
He called them Holocaust centers because he's an idiot.
Not that he's malevolent.
He's not trying to deny the Holocaust.
This thing, right?
Why am I constantly apologizing for it?
I'm not apologizing for them.
You're just fucking lying.
You're being totally uncharitable.
You're just wrong.
It just looks ridiculous.
Nothing I'm saying is not true.
That's the point.
I'm saying true things about these right-wingers, and you call it apologetics.
Do you see what I mean about the left?
I don't even think you know that you're doing it.
I honestly, there are so many accounts, and I've seen this with like Spino and others, where it's just like they'll take, like Kevin Logan did it today.
He took out of a 30-minute video that I had spent obviously days researching and finding everything all the information for to put together a coherent argument.
That bit of the who benefits video where I said, right, now there are some certain actors here that I haven't had the time to look into.
Effectively this is what I'm saying.
It's a big job.
They're undoubtedly going to have lots of connections and I'm sure the most influential people.
And he took that as if, like, I mean, he didn't give the list of people to explain.
I mean, David Brock of Media Matters, one of Hillary's Hatchetman, married to James Alephantis.
You know, no, yeah, I know they have the ear of powerful people, Kev.
And if you knew anything about these people, I assumed you would know who David Brock was.
You know, and anyway, like he takes this 30-second clip where I'm like, yeah, you know, these people are going to have a lot of connections, more needs to be dug up, people on the chans and stuff, you guys should dig.
He's then going, oh, you're saying 4chan is a credible source.
No, I'm saying they can find credible sources.
But that's the point, isn't it?
He made a whole fucking video about a misinterpretation of what I'm saying.
Deliberately uncharitable misinterpretation.
And it's just like, man, if this is all you can do, you will never refute me.
And if you can't refute me, maybe I'm right and you're not.
I'm just saying that it always comes down to petty ad hominems and you never actually address my arguments and you get more and more annoyed that my channel keeps getting bigger and bigger and every week a new piece comes out decrying me as a terrible, evil right-wing misogynist racist, Islamophobic troll.
And yet my audience grows and their shrinks.
And I'm not trying to be a dick about this, I'm not trying say that means I'm better than you or anything like that.
I'm trying to explain to you.
You don't seem to understand the world around you and it seems to be because of your ideology.
You seem to have deliberate blind spots and you're incredibly bigoted.
The and the, the conspiracy theorist.
God, white men are the problem with everything.
Oh yeah, i'm sure they are.
Yeah, if i'm.
It's that simple it's.
It's also the Jews from the Neo-nazis.
You know, just fucking.
It's so dumb and bigoted, i'm sorry.
No, that's totally unacceptable.
Oh, men are oppressing women.
Shut up.
That is so dense.
That's just so one-sided.
And that's the thing, isn't it?
You're not interested.
You bring power into everything, but you don't even consider the nature of power.
You think it's class power when it's not.
It's not class power at all, it's individual power and more often than not, in my experience, women have individual power over an individual man.
Women are the ones telling him what to do.
It's just normally like that, and most men are fine with that, and it seems to be this incredible entitlement that I see coming out of it, and that's, that's feminism.
And then you've got the race thing, where you just you treat other races like the children I would never.
If I, if I thought we had to be equals, I would never treat a white person the way that black lives matter and social justice warriors treat black people.
I would never do that.
It it's inconserable, it's so condescending, it's demonstrably a demonstration of you not treating them as your equals.
I mean, that's just that.
That's just racism.
You just have a guilty conscience about it.
That's what it is.
You, you have a guilty conscience about being racist towards these people.
You don't see them as equals.
So yeah I, I just the left is total cancer.
I'm sorry, I hate to say it, but there is so much that has to be torn out of it and everything that is collectivist about it has to be removed, and then the right can have the cancerous collectivists, then the right can have the alt-right.
And I just want to say i've been criticizing these things before anyone else criticized these things.
I mean, like I, I was criticizing the alt-right way before the mainstream media had any idea who the fuck they were.
You know, I made I fucking had Millennial Woes on my stream, probably like a year ago, making the case for white nationalism, which i'm sure wasn't entirely persuasive, given how I have more subscribers than him.
And I'm just, and again, I'm not bragging, I'm just saying, you know, look, let's just be realistic about what the numbers are saying to us.
You just fucking don't understand that.
And it's not that necessarily I'm like, oh, I'm right on everything.
It's just you're wrong on everything.
That's the problem that you're having.
You're just wrong on everything.
Every time you approach an issue, you approach it one-sided and blinded by ideology.
You don't care.
And it's almost pure, you know, it's pure ideology when you sit there like trotting out these.
Not you personally, Kier, but the left that I'm constantly criticizing is they trot out just such nonsense.
And they're just always on the wrong side of an issue.
It's so bizarre.
I've never met a more committed neoliberalist than a progressive.
It's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy.
What do they need?
Open borders.
Fucking what?
Why?
Oh, well, companies, GDP, what, you give, what about like individual wages?
Why would that not be a more useful metric of how quality of life is in the country?
rather than the overall total.
Oh, these people, man.
So, yeah, I just...
God, the left is just a danger to our civilization at this point.
Do you understand?
The right is actively trying to preserve what we have.
It's hard to disagree with that, even if I disagree with their methods.
You know, I don't think that what they're arguing for, and I'm talking like, you know, any spectrum on the right.
Maybe the libertarians would probably be the only ones I would actually call up on this sort of stuff, because, in fact, I have as well.
I love having debates with ANCAPs.
And that's the point.
They can't tell the difference between libertarianism and ANCAP-ism and arco-capitalism.
And so it's really weird.
It's just like, look, guys, you have to understand.
And I saw that guy, T, did a video saying the case for not having open borders is libertarian or something.
The libertarian case against open borders.
And there we go.
Okay, fine.
You know, there is a strain of libertarian thought that is against open borders.
And T's got a popular libertarian channel.
I mean, the libertarian community isn't small.
And it has a lot of crossover with others.
And T is one of the bigger voices in it.
So it's cool, you know, and I share many beliefs with the libertarians anyway.
So I don't think they're wrong on everything.
I just think they're wrong on certain crucial things.
But I don't think they're entirely wrong on certain crucial things and stuff like that.
So I haven't got a problem with them, really.
I don't think even they would actually want the degradation of Western society.
But the people we're facing actually do.
And they actually take action to implement that.
It's awful.
I mean, they actually go around trying to tear down our history just because history was shit in their opinion.
You know, they're from the tribe that was on the losing side.
Our tribe did well, their tribe did badly.
Okay, well, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that's the case.
We don't live in that society now because we can tell that it's bad.
We don't have scientific racism.
We don't have just a colonial empire.
We don't do all of that stuff now.
We actually talk about tolerance and diversity constantly, fucking forever.
So we don't need to deal with this shit anymore.
We don't need to tear down history.
We're just going, yeah, bad people did bad things in the past.
Sometimes they knew, sometimes they didn't.
It's fine, you know, it just, you know, when I say it's fine, it's gone.
It's done.
We can't change it.
So we shouldn't worry about it.
Should worry about the future.
Something you can change.
Worry about yourself.
It's something you can change.
If you spend all your time blaming someone else hundreds of years ago, you're never going to change.
And that's the thing about basically everything the left does.
It's the desperate attempts not to admit its fadings.
You're right-wing, you're a fascist, you're this, you're that, you're the other.
Even if that's all true, let's assume that literally everyone who criticizes you is a right-wing fascist.
That doesn't make their criticisms invalid, you fucknut.
Even if they are the most morally reprehensible people in existence.
And for your, in your opinion, they are.
Let's just assume they are.
Let's just assume all that's true.
You're not refuting anything.
All of these criticisms are still valid.
You are as cancerous as you seem.
In many cases, they are open about how cancerous they are.
And I just am done with this.
I don't know.
I'm sorry, the right are not nearly as big a problem as the left.
That's just the top and bottom of it.
They've got their problems.
They've got fucking serious problems.
But the left are creating problems so big, and by design, in many cases, that it's just like, no, this has to be stopped at this point.
That's why Merkel and Sweden are closing their borders.
They know how bad this has been.
And this has been terrible.
It's been really bad.
Thousands and thousands of people have lost their lives over this.
And God knows about the numbers of people who have been raped, sexually assaulted, or just mugged and beaten up and bullied and groomed.
And God knows what next.
You know, like it's just the left did that.
The left thinks big and is dangerous, but it's dangerous indirectly.
Whereas the right doesn't really think very big and they're dangerous in an immediate sense.
And it's like, well.
And even then, I don't know how dangerous I actually think they are.
I don't think they're actually that dangerous.
I actually think that if you talk to them like human beings, they're not dangerous at all.
But you don't do any of that.
You literally dismiss them with a fucking label and brand them as the bad guy.
I don't think they are the bad guy.
I just think we disagree.
I mean, again, I hate to say, yeah, I keep citing that guy tea.
You know, I don't hate it.
I like T.
I don't know why I said it that way.
But, you know, it just happens that he and I agree on these subjects.
He, interestingly, he tweeted out, I could be friends with a bigot.
And I was thinking about this, thinking, yeah, why not?
You know, just don't talk about whatever they're bigoted against.
Toward someone else.
And if it comes up, try and persuade them out of it.
Because being a bigot doesn't mean you're going to go out and fucking beat someone.
It doesn't mean you're violent or you're genocidal.
It just means you're a fucking bigot.
It's just, you know, you have an opinion.
Okay.
Yeah, I really don't like that opinion, man.
I'm not going to change it.
Okay, well, don't change it.
But I just don't like it.
So we just want to talk about it.
Okay, cool.
So yeah, Mel gets solid then or something, you know, whatever.
And just you feel like you don't have to talk about something.
You sum one a person up in everything.
And when you get into the source of bigotry, normally it just comes from fear and bad experiences.
Just talk to a person.
Ask them why they're like that.
Ask them why they're afraid of this.
You know, just and again, the best way to get rid of bigots is to deconvert them, is it not?
Stop them being bigots by talking them out of it.
You might be able to tell them things they didn't already know.
There's a great live stream of Cranman T and King of Paul, if anyone remembers him.
And I still like Paul and stuff, so don't give me that shit.
But there's this great ice dream where he was talking about Holocaust denial.
And he wasn't sure.
He'd been reading Paul too much.
And he was like, God, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
And so Kraut just went through the numbers with him.
Just pedantically.
Giving him the numbers of these concentration camps.
They calculated that the potential kills could have been way more than 6 million.
So who knows how many people were killed?
And Kimpa was, oh, right, okay.
I didn't have all this.
I didn't know all this.
So it prevented him from going down the road of Holocaust denial by showing them the fucking evidence.
Isn't that just the best way of converting anyone away from anything?
And it's branding them a name.
You're never going to defeat your opponents.
You're never going to change their mind and make them a friend and make them on your side on this issue.
And if you don't do that, all you do is you constantly encounter new people.
You call them a bunch of names until they're like, fucking hell, who are these nasty shits who came around, declared I was something, call me a bunch of names, then bullied me relentlessly.
And that's how people come to me.
That's how people come and talk to me.
And then, like, someone following me is a declaration, yeah, you've encountered the SJWs and now you know how big a bunch of cunts they are.
They'll get you fucking fired, they'll get you defunded, they will attack the platform you operate on if they want to stop you.
These people are cancer.
They've got no scruples about it at all.
I wonder how much of that is the Marxism talking.
Morality is just a spook.
So, you know, what difference does it make?
So, yeah, just, I don't know, it's just...
Why do I know Chris is the right?
Well, I'm sorry.
The right kind of look like they're getting their asses kicked.
And they're not against the structure that I want.
We can at least agree on the playing field that we're going to then contest abortion rights and whatnot.
And again, I'm fine with abortion rights.
I've got no problem with it at all.
And I don't think it's something that anyone should have.
Who knows who'll be able to get abortions in the future?
I don't want it to be gender-specific.
I just want anyone to be able to get an abortion if they want.
And if men never use that, well, then they never use that, don't they?
We're just covered in the future.
Why specify a woman?
What difference does it make?
Do people have the right to get an abortion?
Yes or no?
Yes, they do.
So get an abortion.
But anyway, I don't know what else to say, man.
that's the answer just
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