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Jan. 29, 2017 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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This Week in Stupid (29⧸01⧸2017)
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Hello everyone, welcome to this week in Stupid for the 29th of January 2017.
I've got a really sore throat today, so not a lot I can do but power through it.
Quick update on Twitter.
My account's been restored and I've got 64,000 followers when I had 142 or something.
So there's a chance that you've been unfollowed from me.
If you're interested in following me on Twitter for no particular reason, because I don't do anything good on Twitter, then feel free to follow me.
It was a Fortran troll who had got me suspended because I'd tweeted some gay porn at him.
Because he was...
Oh, it's a fucking long thing, but it doesn't matter.
It's just Twitter.
But thanks to everyone who was kind enough to say nice things about me.
So this week we've got to talk about Donald Trump and I'm just put once more in a position where I have to defend the man.
I have to actually point out the good things that he does because the media is being so hyperbolic about the and they're not even bad things that he's doing, just the things that he's doing because they are directly opposed to Donald Trump.
And they seem to be more opposed to him on the matter of principle more than anything else.
They've just hyped themselves up into the no, there is there we can't accept Trump as legitimate and therefore anything he does we have to oppose even if he's doing exactly what he said he would do which is an actual fucking article title on CNN.
This is like a headline from the onion.
What the hell is this?
He's doing exactly what he said he would do.
Well, I mean that's kind of why people elected him, isn't it?
So if you're supposed to be opposed to him on the basis that he is now fulfilling his campaign promises, even if you don't like them, surely you have to have some kind of respect for the fact he's doing what he would say he would do.
I mean I hear constantly from left-wing people and media outlets just saying things like, oh, well, you're just taking his words at face value.
Yeah, yeah, I am.
Especially now, given that you are literally saying, well, he's actually doing what he'd say.
I mean, I don't even know if Trump is necessarily bright enough to lie to people convincingly and consistently.
He flip-flops on everything in the middle of an argument just to win the argument.
But like, the consistent policy positions he's put out, and he has had a string of really consistent ones, and I'll go through them in a minute because he's doing them.
So it's easy to predict what he's actually going to do, because all of these things are highly nationalistic policies.
They all benefit the United States, and they don't take into account the concerns of the other nations that are being dealt with.
And so yes, this is what I expected.
That's what it looks like.
And you know, it's not even the worst thing in the world.
And this is just the basic concept behind having to discuss this subject that I'm talking about now.
I haven't even got into the details, which we can look at now.
Honestly, though, I just really want to stress, this is off the reservation.
I mean, the whole stereotype about politicians is, how do you know when a politician's lying, their mouth is moving?
They do not do as they say they would do.
And so, I mean, the idea that I'm supposed to hate Donald Trump when he's actually doing what he wants to do, he was elected by the people, the proletariat were electing Donald Trump.
And they're actually getting served.
I mean, this is a necessary correction to a democratic system.
And it's the same with Brexit.
It's a necessary correction to an imbalance of power within the system.
So even if I don't personally like what's happening, that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to happen.
Lots of things happen that I don't like.
And this is something that the left is getting awfully hung up about.
Sometimes you just have to compromise.
Sometimes you live in reality.
You cannot perfectly adhere to your principles.
You have to constantly keep striving towards them.
But you do have to accept that sometimes you're just going to have to compromise.
That's real life.
And unfortunately for you, now is one of those times, but it's really not that bad.
So on Friday he signed an executive order directing federal agencies to undermine Obamacare.
Yes, he said he would do exactly that.
I know you don't like it.
I don't even know how I feel about it because I don't really know enough about Obamacare.
But I am aware that you don't like it and he wants to get rid of it in its entirety.
It's exactly what I expect.
After a weekend spent attacking the media, yes, the media who spent his entire campaign attacking him.
and enlisting his new press secretary to follow suit for accurately reporting on his inaugural crowd size.
Yes, it was an absolutely pointless, petty, dick measuring move on both parts of Trump and the media.
But Trump has to try and win this fight because he's the president.
And what you are doing by saying, oh look, no one turned up to support Trump, is trying to undermine his legitimacy.
And he does have legitimacy.
I mean, it's not like he wasn't packing out rallies or something for his entire campaign, where Hillary could barely get a third of a fucking hall filled.
I mean, it's not like these people are actually the poor of America.
And travelling all that way for one day is something they simply can't afford.
What I'm saying is that the media doesn't actually have a case from at which to dig at Donald Trump here.
There are plenty of rational explanations as to why that would be the case.
And the fact that they're doing it anyway makes them just look spiteful.
And that's contrasted by a man who is honouring his word even if you don't like what honouring his word looks like at the end.
And then you've got he reinstates a federal ban on foreign aid for organisations to include abortion and family planning in their mission statements.
That was portrayed as if he was defunding planned parenthood and considered an attack on abortion's rights across America.
Even though it wasn't even in America.
The TPP is dead.
NAFTA's on the ropes.
Tiny sentences because you've got no comment on that.
Because they were things that progressives weren't in favour of either.
Listen to this language.
There has been a crackdown on government social media accounts that discuss or allude to basic environmental science.
A crackdown, not a shift in focus, a crackdown.
As if Donald Trump has sent goons into these offices with clubs or something and beaten them for putting up an environmental science bit on their website.
He's just changing the focus of his administration.
It's not an evil thing for him to do.
And then Trump revived the Keystone XL pipeline.
Yeah, he said he would.
He said he would do this.
The wall is next.
Wednesday comes with a request with federal funds to build it, though no word on how he'll compel Mexico to pick up the tab.
Actually, there is.
They were floating the idea of putting a tariff on Mexican goods, which I'll discuss in more depth later on in the video.
Then they start featuring things that he tweets out that he might actually do.
If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible carnage going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings, I will send in the feds.
Is there anyone who thinks he won't do that?
Seriously, is there anyone who is not prepared to accept him at face value at this point?
Hours later, after 7am Wednesday morning, he vowed to pursue a major investigation into the massive voter fraud conspiracy he's peddled as a means of explaining away his loss in the presidential popular vote.
Even though, again, there's no evidence for any sort occurred.
Yes, Was and I'm absolutely sure that his administration is going to be aware of the Project Veritas videos.
And I'm absolutely certain that this is one of the reasons that Hillary has been quiet as a fucking lamb.
Because the last thing they want is to investigate the Democratic Party machine and find even more voter fraud involved in it.
In the actual election and not just in their own fucking primary elections.
I mean, that is just honestly, just stop lying.
Politics is a dirty game and it always has been.
And we already know the people involved are corrupt.
The whole Democratic Party has an institutionalized problem with corruption.
I mean, we saw it with Herman Kane, Demi Wasserman-Schultz, Don of Brazil, and Hillary Clinton.
All of these people are totally untrustworthy.
We saw the Project Veritas videos, and the people featured in the videos were all fired.
But as I showed in a previous video, this is just how they operate, and this is just one more example.
I mean, they don't tell you that the Clinton Foundation is shutting down its Clinton Global Initiative, just one of the projects that it has, through lack of funding, because so many of the Middle Eastern donors are pulling out now that she's not going to be the president.
There's no point wasting their money on her.
It wasn't a charitable organization.
It was a method of buying influence.
This is what the media and the left are supporting, and it's terrible.
And Donald Trump has made it stop.
So you sit there and you say, drain this one.
Well, again, we'll talk about that a bit later.
But for now, let's just talk about Donald Trump's perception of how he has to deal with the media.
Steve Bannon, one of your top advisors just the other day to the New York Times, called the media the opposition party.
Do you believe that?
I think to a large extent they're much more capable than the other side.
I think the media, yeah, I think the media is the opposition party in many ways.
And I think that, and I'm not talking about all media.
I know people like yourself, but I know people in the media that I have tremendous respect for, respect them as much as anybody.
So I'm not talking about everybody, but a big portion of the media, the dishonesty, the total deceit and deception makes them certainly partially the opposition party, absolutely.
You'll notice that I'm using CNN again, even though I've demonstrated repeatedly and in this video how they lie to protect their own agenda, which is firmly anti-Trump.
But CNN are the least bad of the left-wing media at the moment.
The rest of the left-wing media seems to have just jumped to the far left, declared Donald Trump Hitler and that he's going to rape every woman in sight.
Shortly before he gasses all the Muslims, because they are actually convinced that America is filled with Nazis.
And I know there are going to be people going, oh, well, that means you think the right-wing are better.
No, I don't.
I just had a really low opinion of them to start with.
There's no need to mock Fox News.
The term Fox News was used to mock things that weren't Fox News.
A few days ago, a troll lied his way onto Tucker Carlson's show just to make the point that he could lie his way onto Tucker Carlson's show.
So let's talk about Donald Trump's quote-unquote Muslim ban, which I put in quotes because, and I mean this in the most literal and technical sense of the words, it is not a Muslim ban.
It is just simply not that.
It's not even an Arab ban.
But notice how this is being couched.
Trump defends controversial executive order on refugees as protests erupt.
President Donald Trump on Saturday defended his executive order barring travellers from seven Muslim majority countries from entering the US.
This is not a Muslim ban, this is a national ban.
And this is something that happens regularly in international relations.
An example of this would be 16 Muslim-majority nations who have banned the travel of Israeli citizens to their countries.
Because it's a political statement against Israel.
But more importantly, nobody has the right to move to someone else's country.
No one even has the right to visit someone else's country.
These things are privileges usually extended to other people, but can be withdrawn if for some reason it's desired.
And the point of them is that nobody gets hurt.
This is a form of diplomatic pressure that involves no casualties.
That's not a bad thing.
It's not illegitimate by any stretch of the imagination.
But the way the media is hyping this up, you'd think that he's opened a death camp or something.
Trump's order halted refugee arrivals into the US for 120 days, and it barred citizens of Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen for 90 days.
Not the end of the world, and he did say he was going to ban Muslims, so this is actually a hell of a lot better than it could have been, isn't it?
The order was meant to protect the United States from foreign nationals entering from countries compromised by terrorism and implement a more rigorous vetting process.
Now, as I said before, I'm not in favour of doing this, but if someone does do this, I don't see this as a giant act of bigotry, because it's not actually a giant act of bigotry.
This actually does come from a rational position.
ISIS have been getting into Europe using the refugee crisis.
This is something that has happened.
They were ISIS members who infiltrated using the refugee crisis at the Paris attacks.
I mean, the NATO commander saying ISIS spreading like cancer among refugees.
This is legitimately happening.
This isn't being made up.
Trump tweets out, our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting now.
Look at what's happening all over Europe and indeed the world, a horrible mess.
He doesn't need an ulterior motive.
He doesn't need to be a racist.
He could be talking about terrorists from Poland.
If Polish terrorists were blowing up Germany or something, he would ban Polish people.
That wouldn't be racist either.
But I'm not saying there's not another side to this, where there are legitimate refugees who need legitimate help.
And, you know, the extreme vetting is probably the best we're ever going to be able to do about this.
People who can be vetted should be let in, as long as they are legitimate refugees and not simply economic migrants.
You're one of the best students, huh?
Yes.
Looking at all her school merit awards, it's amazing to think that 11-year-old Naruz has only been in the US for a year.
Why are you such a good girl?
I don't know.
In fact, it's only been a few months since she learned English.
But if you ask her, she's already making America better.
My name is El Rose, and I am a Syrian refugee.
And thank you for welcoming us to our new home in America.
That's her reciting this letter that she recently read at a nearby church.
Her family says an estimated half of those in attendance were Donald Trump supporters.
Why does that matter?
Naruz and her family are Syrian refugees.
Under President Trump's newly proposed immigration plan, families like hers wouldn't be able to come to the US.
Or as she says, they wouldn't be able to make America better.
The propaganda value of that is incredible.
It's entirely rosy.
Oh, look at this poor Syrian refugee.
She's even learned English.
She wants to be a doctor.
She's going to make America great again.
Look, you can't leave out this poor disabled family, can you?
As if she is representative of the migrant crisis.
But what I find worse is that we know that ISIS are using the refugee crisis to get into other countries where they wouldn't otherwise be able to get.
Because believe it or not, we do discriminate against the people we let in sometimes.
And that means that there's a good chance that someone's going to die if one of these guys gets in.
And that's a chance that you're going to have to take if you take these refugees.
So you're saying for the quality of life of this young girl, it's worth the risk of someone else dying.
And I'm not sure that that's true.
And I think the people making that argument are people who have not personally lost someone to a terrorist attack that was because of the refugee crisis.
I'm all in favour of helping these people.
But I don't think that simply letting them in en masse when we know an enemy state is using their presence to infiltrate and murder people within our own countries is a sensible move.
Honestly, I'm really wondering if it can be considered unethical to do so.
I mean, it seems that the people who allow this to happen have a duty of care to the citizens that have elected them to represent them and protect them.
And the powers that be would be failing their own electorates just to make sure they felt better about the lot of some poor foreign child.
And yet it's tragic, but there are probably millions and millions and millions of poor foreign children.
Why this one?
Why not any of the others?
And it's because these things are just simply outside of our power.
It would be better for us to fix the political situations they live under than to just simply take them all in as if we have boundless wealth and unlimited resources.
And not just that.
And I'm not even talking money.
I'm not worried about the money issue at all.
I'm talking about the cost to the social fabric of our societies.
And if you don't think this is happening, are you missing the fact that the extreme right, in the words of the left, the Nazis are taking over.
They're doing it with the consent of the fucking governed, alright?
This is just not negotiable anymore.
The answer is just no.
We can send money and food and water and resources and all the sort of charity.
I would probably even support a military intervention at this point because things have got so bad.
But no, we just cannot simply take millions of refugees on the basis that they would prefer to live in America or Britain or Europe than in the Middle East.
And while Donald Trump is a very powerful man, he's not a dictator.
US judge blocks deportation under Trump's Muslim ban.
A federal judge has blocked part of President Trump's executive order on emergency, ruling that travellers who have already landed in the US with valid visas should not be sent back to their home countries.
That's fine.
That is politics as usual.
That is people within the political system using the power at their disposal to get the results that they think are the best ones.
And Trump's Muslim Holocaust has only interfered with the journeys of 109 travellers.
I am sorry those people have been inconvenienced, but thankfully a judge has ruled in your favour, and you won't simply be sent back home.
It's not the end of the world.
And of course, Homeland Security are complying with these judicial orders, while Trump's order remains in place.
So everything is working exactly as intended.
This is fine.
And there are other attorneys and other people with power who are going to mount legal challenges.
Donald Trump might be defeated on this.
And again, it's only for 90 days anyway.
The thing is, I think that maybe these people simply were not paying attention to what Obama was doing.
Because as Dan Carlin has been pointing out for years now, the presidency has been accruing unreasonable amounts of power.
And Obama was completely facilitating that rise.
And he was warning, look, it's all and good when you guys are in power now, but when you're not, the president will be able to do things you're not happy with.
And this is actually one of Obama's own initiatives.
Trump didn't come up with the list of Muslim countries he wants to ban, Obama did.
According to the draft copy of Trump's executive order, the countries whose citizens would be barred entirely from entering the United States is based on a bill that Obama signed into law in December 2015.
He signed the Visa Waiver Programme Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill.
The legislation restricted access to the program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.
At the initial signing of the restrictions, foreigners who had normally been deemed eligible for a visa waiver were denied if they'd visited Iran, Syria, Sudan, or Iraq in the past five years or held dual citizenship from any of those countries.
Then in February 2016, the Obama administration added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to those countries, and these are the countries that Trump has picked.
This is a continuation of Obama's policy.
And I can only imagine that Obama put that visa waiver policy in place because a lot of terrorists tried to enter the US from these places.
This is not an arbitrary move from Donald Trump, and this is not based on race.
This is actually a surprisingly nuanced thing for Donald Trump to do, because I honestly thought he was just going to have a blanket ban on Muslims.
Which again, I don't even agree with these things.
But it's not just irrational hatred of Muslims that are driving him to do it.
And one of the reasons I don't support this is because it provokes the Iranians to start taking reciprocal measures.
Because they think that suddenly they're being slighted by the US, even though the US and Iran doesn't have any foreign relations.
And they're doing it because they are highly ideological.
The US decision to restrict travel to Muslims through the US, even if for a temporary period of three months, is an obvious insult to the Islamic world, and in particular to the great nation of Iran.
Despite the claims of combating terrorism and keeping the American people safe, it will be recorded in history as a big gift to extremists and their supporters.
How?
How does that benefit extremists?
How does it benefit their supporters?
The next thing is the White House floats tax on Mexican imports that would force Americans to pay for the wall.
The White House floated the idea Thursday of imposing a 20% tax on Mexican imports, arguing that it would be more than enough to pay for the controversial border wall, then quickly downplayed the idea as one of many under consideration.
Such a tariff on goods and services would be paid for by US consumers and businesses.
People buying anything from advocados to tequila to automobiles.
Energy companies, big retailers, and other major business interests oppose such an import tax, arguing that it would drive up prices in the United States, curb demand, and erode profits.
Mexico is the United States' third largest trading partner.
The White House has described that the idea of a tax on all imports from Mexico, $271 billion last year, would generate $54 billion in revenue, though a tariff that high would drastically suppress trade in both directions and have other repercussions.
I'm sure that's all true.
And I'm sure that that's a bad idea.
And I think it's actually very interesting how, when called out on that bad idea, they changed their position and they said, well, it's one of many ideas.
You know, and they, I mean, it's an interesting way of testing the water, really.
What do people actually think of these arguments?
And it's strange that they're being so responsive to what people actually think.
They're changing their positions.
It's just like something unheard of before.
And it's like the same on the issue of torture, where Trump said, well, he would be pro-waterboarding because ISIS are exceptionally bad.
He says, I absolutely feel it works.
And then he goes ahead and appoints James Mattis as Defense Secretary.
I'll leave a link in the description to a video of Mattis explaining why he is in the military.
And he is interested in defending Western values.
And part of those Western values is a strong stance against torture.
And Trump has already agreed to let Matis quote override him on torture.
Like I said, it's already well known that Mattis is firmly opposed to reinstating torture.
And on Friday, he appeared to go further in closing the door on the issue entirely.
As in, he knows it's not going to happen, Trump knows it's not going to happen.
This is Trump talking tough.
And then, I mean, you don't need to listen to his fucking words.
You can look at the things he actually does because that's where the real substance is.
If Trump says he is pro-torture and then appoints a firmly anti-torture general to be the Secretary of Defense, you know that he is actually not pro-torture.
Otherwise, he would appoint someone who was also pro-torture.
Matis, though, is obviously very pro-destroy ISIS and is getting along with that job fine.
And I'll tell you what, if I were to design the ideal general, it would probably look like Matis.
Matis carried Marcus Aurelius around with him on all of his campaigns.
Matis is a Western military intellectual.
He understands what he's fighting for and why he fights for it.
And he is so well educated on the subject with so many years of direct experience and he is so moderate and responsible.
And one of the main things that he points out is respect for the system itself, which is something that he feels the left has lost.
And I agree with him.
Honestly, you couldn't pick a better man to be Secretary of Defense in this kind of political climate.
And all I hear from the left is just total bullshit about the waffle, the hot air that comes out of Trump's mouth.
Fuck what Trump says.
Stop reading his Twitter feed.
That's all you need to do.
Just look at his actual actions.
Trump sets five-year and lifetime lobbying ban from officials.
Oh my God, the number of people are like, oh, look at Trump hiring all those corrupt people.
He's not going to drain the swamp.
And then he does something like this and says, okay, gone.
What's he not going to do?
Drain the swamp?
I mean, you were pro-Hillary, so don't even talk to me about the fucking swamp that you were in favour of.
But even then, Trump is actually taking action to drain the swamp.
And the only thing I hear against this is it is not immediately clear how banning these lobbyists will be enforced.
Well, I don't know either.
I mean, I would just assume it's preventing people from doing it and punishing the people who do.
But Jesus Christ, this is an actual decent action.
This is, you know, this is the thing.
Then you've just got the left running around screaming that Donald Trump's a Nazi.
And I'm just sat there thinking, well, I'm not seeing it.
I'm just not seeing it from his actual actions.
All I'm hearing is your ridiculous, almost baseless rhetoric at times.
The hot air, windy, the just the continual self-aggrandisement coming out of Trump's mouth and thinking, okay, I don't care about what either of you are saying, but what he's actually doing is actually quite good.
But the thing is, the left-wing response to all of this has been totally disproportionate to what has happened.
It's become unhinged.
This is Majid Noaz talking to far-left radical author and guardian columnist Owen Jones about the migrant crisis and about this not allowing migrants into America is a violation of their human rights.
This is one of these moments throughout history.
We've all looked back at moments in history at huge injustice.
And we look back and ask, what did people do?
Did they speak out or did they remain silent?
And we damn people often for their complicity for not speaking out at moments of great injustice.
This is one of those moments.
This is a historic moment, historic in the worst possible sense of that word.
And I think now people from a whole range of political persuasion, you know, whether you be on the left or the right, need to speak out on the basis of human decency against injustice and against the administration where I'm afraid this will be a slippery slope.
This is only the beginning.
I mean, I've mentioned that Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, called this shameful and cruel, as is an appropriately worded statement, I believe.
And I mentioned that for Theresa May to not only be late in her condemnation, but then in her choice of words, merely to say, I disagree, this is not a moment, I believe, for us merely to disagree with Donald Trump's decision.
This is a moment for words such as shameful and cruel, words that are full of moral import to be used by our leaders.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has similarly, like the Mayor of London, condemned this.
But Theresa May, was it far too little, too late?
Oh, absolutely.
Look, when we disagree with things, I might disagree with someone about the rate of tax on people at the top, you know, top-income earners.
I might disagree with people on how we run the National Health Service.
There's a difference between disagreeing on policy issues and grave injustices, such as the targeting of people from countries in the way that Donald Trump has done.
Now, Theresa May went and, you know, with huge jubilance and made it a big triumphalist moment to meet Donald Trump infamously holding hands with the new president of the United States.
He drew up this law on this directive on Holocaust Memorial Day for Theresa May to fail to speak out, not just to say she disagrees belatedly and only when she came under huge pressure, but to fail to passionately defend the rights of her own citizens, not just her own citizens.
Her own MP.
Her own members of parliament, at least one member of parliament, is shameful and it's a shameful moment.
And I think, again, regardless of your political persuasion, if you're listening to this, there'll be many who disagree with me on a whole range of issues.
But on this particular issue, when you have conservative MPs even filed from entering the United States, it is time for our Prime Minister, who's there to represent all British citizens, to take a stand, not just in solidarity with those, of course, barred from all over these countries which are targeted, but the people of this very country who have been targeted.
This is totally unhinged.
There is no great injustice going on with the Americans refusing a conservative MP to go to their country.
That's not some sort of terrible oppression.
He doesn't have the right.
And if they've got a rule that says if you've got dual citizenship with Iran or wherever, then you're not allowed in, then I'm sorry, but you're not allowed in.
And it's not like there isn't a legitimate reason for them to be concerned.
I mean, we are talking about terrorists that kill tens of thousands of people every year, something like 28,000 deaths from Islamic terrorism last year, with agents actively working to infiltrate Western countries and blow people up.
But you say a conservative MP who holds dual Iranian British citizenship can't go on holiday to the US.
Well, that's terrible.
What oppression?
Maybe it was just throw open the border, Zoen.
For fuck's sake, you're a fucking joke.
There was a Muslim caller on Katie Hopkins' radio show on the same program where he explains precisely what's going on in Islam at the moment on an ideological level.
This is what he thinks.
I just say in regard to the people being in taught in the airport, I don't really agree because they're civilian.
They're just running away from crisis.
They'll try to get a safer place to get a better life, to improve their life.
If the United States refuses, if Trump said, I'm not happy to allow the immigrants in my country or not helping them, at least, okay, ban the citizenship.
Don't allow them to have the citizenship.
Let them live along the society.
Let them live their life, but with their own nationality, with their own Syrian nationality.
As soon as the country is safe, they can't go back.
Okay, Aman, can I ask you a question?
Or Ayman?
Is it Eamon?
I apologise.
I apologise.
Let me ask you a question directly.
And please don't take offense at the question.
Why is it, help me understand, always help me, why is it we see Muslims running from Muslim countries to Christian countries for a better life?
Does that not tell us something about Muslims, the religion of Islam?
Why is it always Christian countries that need to save Muslim countries?
Help me understand.
Just at the moment, Muslim itself, there's issue inside Islam.
There's issues between Sunnah and Shi'a.
There's so many issues that digs deep to a civil war.
At the moment, Islam is not in the perfect shape, to be honest.
No.
Because of the division that we have.
The division.
Some of them, they say, you follow the West.
of them they say no you follow islamic state so there's so much division over there that causes us to yes i hate to sound callous but that's hardly a ringing endorsement Now, like I've said, I'm not saying we don't help these people.
I think we have a moral duty to help these people.
But I do not think simply throwing open the borders is the answer.
And there is certainly nothing racist about banning some Islamic countries and not others.
Like I said, this is an issue of international politics.
This is simply how sovereign nations interact with one another.
Now, I'm going to reiterate, I am not in favor of these bans.
They are not politically expedient.
I don't think they're necessarily going to be particularly useful because I imagine that terrorists will get fake passports from nations that weren't banned or something like that.
And I do think that, yeah, you are unfairly targeting people who aren't terrorists and will never be terrorists.
And I would prefer a more severe vetting procedure.
But this is not racism and it's not illegitimate to do this.
And if you think it is, you've just delegitimized almost every government in the Middle East.
Almost every single Muslim country does exactly this.
So if you find this illegitimate, why weren't you complaining about them?
Why weren't you complaining when Obama did this?
And why now?
What's the surprise?
I am genuinely surprised that this is not as bad as Trump made it sound when he was campaigning.
That's my surprise.
And this whole thing is just really, it's turning the left loopy because they're talking from a position of offense.
My God, you're saying that a carpenter can't travel to America?
Yes.
I find that offensive.
Okay.
I do as well.
If it were me, and this is what you're all thinking, let's be honest, you're thinking, but that could be me not being able to travel somewhere I want to travel.
That's not something I want.
And it's like, yes, but you don't have a right to go there and you know it.
And they don't have a right to come here and you know it.
And sovereign nations are free to close their borders to whoever they want.
It's their choice.
And they've elected Donald Trump to close borders and that's what he's doing.
Again, do not be surprised.
And honestly, the left is embarrassing itself with this.
Jeremy Corbyn calls for Donald Trump to be banned from the UK until Muslim ban is lifted.
Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom.
Okay, now you're hypocrites.
300,000 people and Jeremy Corbyn and any other person on the left who thinks it's wrong to do this and who wants Trump banned from our country is a fucking hypocrite and I'm just not interested in listening to it.
You're fine with banning.
You're just not fine with banning certain kinds of people.
Well, there we go.
Now it's just subjective.
Whose preference are we talking about?
And unfortunately for you, you've lost the fucking argument.
So it's not your preference.
It's their preference and they're making choices.
You made this happen by allowing them to get into power.
So don't sit here and give me this sort of like, oh my god, this is highly offensive.
No, this is just, this is just business as usual.
This is just business as usual.
Everything that Donald Trump has done is business as usual.
But nobody cared when Obama was doing it because they were on Obama's side.
That's the point.
So don't be a hypocrite, just, okay, this is, I mean, I personally wouldn't agree to this.
I personally don't like this.
And if it was me, I personally would be offended as well.
But my offense is not enough for me to objectively say this is wrong.
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