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July 20, 2016 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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#FreeMilo ⧸ #FreeMiloNow
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Hello everyone, how are you all doing?
Let's have a talk about Milo's ban from Twitter and what happened.
Because honestly, this is this pisses me off.
Not necessarily.
I mean, I'm disappointed that Twitter have banned Milo over what I don't consider justified, but we'll get to that in a minute.
But I just can't believe Twitter drama can make it into the mainstream media.
It just, I just find it so petty.
And, you know, it's just so pathetic.
But this is what needs to be talked about, because this is what people hung up about.
So, okay.
So, let's start at the beginning, I guess, with Leslie Jones's tweets.
Leslie Jones being the actress from Ghostbusters, which I'm sure you all know, but if you didn't, there we go.
The Ghostbusters reboot that has not been very popular and is not very good.
So, if you go back to like the 13th, all of her tweets are just kind of just normal stuff.
You know, it's just her promoting Ghostbusters and stuff she's doing, and it's all totally normal and retweeting fan art.
And it's, you know, there's nothing wrong or offensive about what she's doing here.
I mean, this is exactly as I would expect from someone in a film.
And it's, as you can imagine, all entirely positive, which is what I would expect from someone who is part of a production that's a complete bomb.
You know, so this is, she's doing, she's actually, alright, she's not a Paul Feig who's just like, oh, people, you know, because I don't doubt that in this time, she's still got people tweeting saying Ghostbusters was shit.
But she's ignoring it, right?
And then it goes on, like, you know, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
I went back quite far to see if anything exciting was going on.
And it doesn't look like anything was.
Until it's on the 18th.
Some trolls on the internet start tweeting at her.
And I don't know what the motivation to start doing this was.
But yeah, I don't.
I don't really.
See, it's like an alt-right guy, it looks like.
So I don't know what the motivation for this is.
But then it just seems to escalate.
Not that one particularly.
But hang on.
Like, it seems to be like just people trolling her.
And again, it's nothing, really.
It's, you know, nothing.
nothing that she couldn't just ignore and should just ignore so yeah it's it's again it's just an insult It's not a racial slur saying Leslie Jones calling herself Lesdalog is like Randall Wilson calling herself fatty and he saw other bitches and don't call her that behind her back.
It's mean, but it's not necessarily racist.
And then it seems to escalate quite quickly with this chap saying, don't let Ghostbusters bombing get you down.
You're assuming to star in the Harambi motion picture as the man himself.
So it starts getting racist.
I mean, that's pretty fucking awful.
You know, I mean, if you're looking at it from her point of view, I can't imagine what you could say to her that is worse than this.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it is funny, but it's also horrible on a really deep level.
I mean, this is not, Leslie Jones is not an attractive woman in any shape or form of the word.
She's statuesque and she does not have an attractive face.
And I'm not saying this to be mean, I'm saying this to be honest.
She's really not what most men are going for.
And if you watch her in any interviews, she obviously overcompensates for this by having the...
And I swear to God, I was...
I should have got the video in hand, actually.
She...
I was...
I was watching some videos of her before this to see what she was like.
I think they were only in a Twitter line, actually.
But she is the most stereotypically just what you would think of as an overcompensating black woman.
Just boisterously loud.
And obnoxious, frankly, but just really annoying and, you know, obviously overcompensating to get attention.
Because for most women, being attractive is a good way of getting attention.
You know, it kind of comes naturally if you are.
And she doesn't have this advantage, and being black, there are obviously going to be racists who are going to say, well, you look like a chimp or a gorilla or something like that.
And the thing about what makes this so bad is that there is literally nothing she can do about this situation.
She's huge, she's not attractive, and she's black, and she didn't get to choose any of those things.
So it is incredibly demeaning to call her this.
You can't get around that.
And there's no comeback.
There's nothing you can say, there's nothing you can do.
But it is a reflection of the person saying it.
The person saying it is saying it because they want to say the most harsh thing they can to this person they don't know and has just and doesn't really seem to have done anything wrong as far as I can see, and it's just like just being a dick on Twitter and so you know this.
That makes the person sending it obviously a total twat.
But you can understand that if you're put in that position as Leslie Jones, I mean you can understand how that could be quite fucking.
It could really trigger you, right.
I mean, like you could see how that would be like that would.
That would be something that would really piss you off and I, I think totally legitimately.
So I would be pissed off if that were me, you know, and personally, if I were it, I mean I would have thought that the best thing Leslie Jones should do is just put it to people you follow and then only talk to the people you follow, and the people that you know are nice on their feeds and stuff like that.
You know, that's what I would do.
I wouldn't just engage with them, because engaging with them is what they want.
They want you to bite, they're putting out bait and that's why this guy's gone for the worst bait he can think of to get her to bite, and she did.
And so it then starts.
It seems to be escalating and whatnot I.
A lot of stuff has been deleted and banned.
I think so you.
We can only see like half the conversations and stuff.
But yeah, it just, you know, it starts going on, and she's just like, okay, this is fucking horrible, because this does seem to be some sort of not coordinated effort, but it seems to have become a community activity for the alt-right, or a group of people in the alt-right, or something like that.
Maybe, maybe someone from the Chans or something.
I don't know.
But it seems to have been something that everyone was enjoying doing because it was funny and it was pissing off their political enemies.
But I don't really see how it's in any way justified.
I mean, these are horrible things.
And sometimes there are reasons to say truly horrible things to people.
But I don't know what it is she's done other than be a political symbol for the enemies of the people all doing this.
So I don't see how this is justified at all.
And I don't really see what she's done wrong.
I mean, she didn't write the fucking shit film.
I'm surprised people aren't sending shit to Paul Feig.
But yeah, so I don't really see how this is justified.
And so it's going on and going on and going on.
And this is where Milo ends up tweeting at her.
Now, we'll take a look at Milo's tweets in a minute, but we'll just see what happened shortly afterwards.
So this was going on.
milo tweeted her and then after that jack the ceo of twitter one of the i don't know if he's one or many but uh he is a ceo of twitter um Obviously, gets in contact with her.
And then shortly afterwards, Milo's banned.
This is in response to this tweet.
And I can see where she's coming from.
I mean, these people are just sending her racist abuse for no reason.
I mean, even if they had a reason, I think it's actually probably illegal.
You know, if any of them are outside America, basically.
And I'm sure it is, without a doubt, against Twitter's guidelines.
It turns them service and whatnot.
So, you know, I'm not surprised that she's like, like this.
I don't see.
You know, I don't think this makes her the bad guy or anything like that.
But anyway, yeah, Milo is then shortly banned from Twitter after Jack gets involved.
I think there was something on here that I was going to talk about, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
But then everyone obviously is concerned about free speech, and I am as well, because I don't really see the justification for this.
Well, where is it?
This one.
We'll have a look at Milo's actual conversation with her.
So he's been banned, obviously, so it's in text form.
If at first you don't succeed because your work is terrible, play the victim.
Everyone gets hate mail for fuck's sake.
Linking to her tweet of the you know, I leave tonight, or was that afterwards, actually?
You know, that was afterwards.
It was a different tweet.
One where she's talking, I think this one, actually.
I could just click and have a look, couldn't I?
I don't know, this one.
But even then, oh, yeah, okay, I've been called an ape, sent pictures of their asses, even got a pic with semen on my face, and trying to, okay, I don't really understand what she's saying there, but it's pretty harsh stuff, and I can see why Twitter would feel like Jack from just anyone from Twitter really would feel the need to intercede.
But yeah, so Milo thinks she's playing the victim.
She says, I'm hearing this guy's a columnist, how sad.
Is this how he gets his readers through supporting hate?
Like acting like I'm a.
I'm acting like a victim, nice job.
Barely literate.
America needs better schools from Milo.
And then someone read she retweets someone saying he's basically the Uncle Tom of gay people, huge Trump slash alt-right fanboy who is gay.
And then Milo tweets back to that, rejected by yet another black dude.
So Milo is being a dick.
And I say that as someone who considers himself, or at least considers Milo a friend.
I've been drinking with Milo.
I've had many conversations with Milo and I enjoy talking to him.
He's entertaining.
He's very interesting.
This is why he's got such a large fan base.
But I have to be honest, and I don't think Milo is in any way justified by doing this.
He's being deliberately provocative, of course.
I get the feeling that he probably didn't know the depth of what was going on.
This seems like a bit of a flippant comment after not seeing exactly what had actually been sent to her and how bad it actually was.
And so I genuinely think that's the case, because honestly, I've done this before as well, not exactly about this, but where you've seen one part of, or at least me, a very few parts of exactly what's been going on.
It's easy to be like, come on, that was nothing.
But this might actually have been quite horrible.
You know, like, genuinely, like, I don't want to use the word offensive, but, like, this is really bad.
You know, this is a real, really bad attack on her.
And I can see why Twitter would feel the need to do this.
And honestly, I agree with them.
I think they should too.
I don't see how this is justified in any way, shape, or form.
You know?
But, yeah.
So, Milo, she actually responds reasonably rationally.
I don't think she's been playing the victim, to be honest.
I actually, I mean, she seems to have been engaged and actually talking to them.
Don't even remember, she was being offensive at times herself, but I don't think she's off the rails.
It's like she seems fairly normal.
But Milo's obviously in fighting mode.
And so that's what he's doing.
And it's, you know, that's fine.
Everyone does that.
I do that, you know.
There's no problem doing what.
Usually there's some sort of build-up with the person.
And Milo's kind of skipped that.
And so he's gone on the attack.
And again, I don't necessarily think that's justified.
I don't know why he's done it.
And I think it's probably through a lack of information.
But, like I said, he'd have to explain that.
But yeah, so, you know, Milo, you know, he's being a dick, but this is not incitement.
And I think it's very important to point out that this was going on already.
It's not incitement to go to a riot that's in progress in the middle of it and go, yes, you should all go riot.
Even if he was saying that, even if he was saying, you should send stuff to her, hell, they were doing it already.
So, you know, they were doing it in spades.
So it's not like Milo needs to incite anything with this.
And even then, nothing about this was incitement.
This was Milo just being a dick, and yes, it was public.
And yes, he was doing it probably for the crowd.
But again, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that.
And it's not a request to go and do anything bad.
And he certainly wasn't in any way requesting that people send her the most racist insults they can think of.
Even if you think Milo is inciting them, he's not inciting them to do that.
At best, he's inciting them to just mock her.
But so, I disagree vehemently with Milo's banning.
It's unjust.
It's clearly the result of an elite in Twitter who don't know how to solve the problem that they're having.
There is.
It's been no secret.
There have been plenty of articles, and one of the CEOs of Twitter literally said, yes, we suck at dealing with trolls at some conference.
I should have grabbed it so I could give you the exact details, but you can Google it, you'll find it.
Twitter has always had this problem, and so I think what they're doing is lashing out, because back in January, Twitter removed his verification badge, essentially delegitimizing his voice on the platform.
And that's very interesting, isn't it?
Because the verification badges have long been used on Twitter as sort of a badge of rank.
And they come with some extra features that most people don't get.
And they denote someone of importance.
And so it's one of these things where it's, but they always hide it behind the veneer of, well, people might make parody accounts of them or something like that.
And it's like, well, that's true.
But if you're going to remove it, then you're openly demonstrating that it's a badge of rank.
And, you know, that's why Milo had the black mark next to his name.
It was a point.
It's a political point, in fact.
So this is, Milo has basically been in their sights for a while, and he's been suspended before as well.
So I'm not surprised that the first thing they did is think that Milo was inciting this.
They've probably been looking for any excuse, frankly.
I probably would have been if I were them.
You know, if this guy is causing you trouble, and he is causing trouble for them, but on purpose, then I can see why they would use this as an excuse to go after him and ban him.
However, like I said, I don't think it's justified at all, and it's a symbolic gesture.
It is.
And when he says this to conservatives, he's kind of right.
I mean, most conservatives aren't nearly as provocative as Milo is, but they, I'm sure, will from time to time say things that Twitter will come down on them for.
And Milo's kind of jumping to the end of this process rather than wait another two or three years until Twitter is actually doing this sort of thing if it carries on going in this direction.
Milo's kind of forcing the issue.
So the Twitter rules that they've got him on, I imagine, come under this.
Under the abuse of behavior section.
They say, we believe in freedom of expression speaking truth to power.
But this means little as an underlying philosophy if the voices are silenced because people are afraid to speak up.
Now that's very interesting because that's what Milo's doing.
Milo isn't the establishment.
Milo's going against it.
And so it's very Alinsky-ish, if anyone's interested.
So in order to ensure that people feel safe, blah, blah, blah.
So violent threats, direct or indirect, you may not make threats of violence or promote violence, including threatening or promoting terrorism, which he obviously didn't do.
I imagine they're going to get him on harassment, which is you may not incite or engage in the targeted abuse or harassment of others.
Some of the factors we may consider when evaluating abuse behaviour include if a primary purpose of a reported account is to harass or send messages to others, if the reported behaviour is one-sided or includes threats, if the reported account includes inciting others to harass an account, and if the reported account is sending harassing messages to an account from multiple accounts.
Well, Milo, again, they're going to be trying to get him on the incite thing.
But again, I don't think he was inciting.
And I think that it's illegitimate by their own rules.
Right.
So yeah, The Guardian has pointed out that this is a deliberate campaign of hate.
And honestly, I am inclined to agree with her.
I don't know why she's been chosen as target.
I think it's because she's easy.
It's easy to say you look like a gorilla when you're a huge and attractive black lady.
It's again, I'm not trying to be mean.
I'm just being honest about the facts of what's going on here.
I don't think people should do this.
I think it's fucking horrible.
But it is easy to do, and Twitter is a platform that makes it easy to access, which is why so many celebrities quit Twitter.
I mean, Stephen Fry quit Twitter for similar reasons of people just being a twat to him.
So it's like, okay.
You know, don't be wrong, Twitter has declining numbers.
I think it's only about 315 million active users a day, which, if you think about it, really isn't very many.
I'm not surprised people are leaving if this is happening to them.
I just need to have a drink.
Sorry.
Right, yes.
So, Reason.com had an interesting piece, which, again, I agree with.
On Leslie Jones and Milan Yanopoulos, supporting free speech does not mean endorsing Nazism.
There's anti-political correctness and then there's harassment.
Sorry, I can't actually mute this thing.
This should go without saying, but in case, yeah, so I agree with them.
This is taking the war of anti-political correctness to the enemy.
And in many ways, I think that's very laudable and should be done.
But I think that what's happened here is a Bob Chipman moment.
This is, there are no bad tactics, there are just bad targets.
I think that this is what the people doing this, this is the principle that the people doing this are operating under.
There's no particular reason to go for her.
She's done nothing.
If you're going to do something, go for Paul Fee.
You know, to criticize him, because he's the twat who made it.
And before anyone says, oh god, he's inciting, no, don't do anything.
Don't ever fucking contact any of these people.
Jesus Christ.
You have to understand how this is deforming the landscape, the political landscape around it.
You, when you tweet people like her, are creating censorship on the internet.
When you tweet, you look like a gorilla to her, you are creating censorship.
I mean, I want to reinforce this.
You will be used as the justification to censor other people and to generally have a more totalitarian view towards the internet from the authorities.
You're doing this, just so you know.
So enjoy it while it lasts, is what I'm saying.
You know, you are the justification for all of this.
So the spectator seems to think that the same thing.
And they seem to think that this has all come from the alt-right.
And to be honest with you, from what I've seen from the tweets, I agree.
I think this was alt-right people.
I watched a Ramsey Paul video earlier about it, and he was quite unsympathetic.
I quite like Ramsay Paul normally.
He seems quite funny, and I don't find him too hateful.
But I think there's been a bit of a, like I said, a bit of a community activity atmosphere to it.
And I think they've all got kind of caught up.
And I can really understand it because when we're in Game Gate, we'd do the same thing, but we'd do it to publications.
You know, we'd do it to Gorka.
We'd do it to Kotaku.
We'd do it to corporations.
We wouldn't do it to individuals.
So it was, you know, in my mind, it was at least a lot different.
I don't think it's the same thing.
And we certainly weren't tweeting racist stuff at them.
We were tweeting our own hypocrisy at them.
And that's quite fun.
You know, when you can point out they're giant hypocrites and they're wrong, and you're right.
That's very fun.
I don't think.
I don't think I would.
I mean, I don't think tweeting racism constantly is fun.
I think that's a real dick move.
And I think this is something that's going to end up really cementing a lot of people's views of the alt-right.
Whether you think, and you can say, well, fuck me, it's not hashtag not all alt-right if you want.
And you can be like, oh, this isn't, this is like the evil white nationalist part that we disavow, whatever.
It's not up to me.
You know, you're just shooting the messenger here.
I'm just telling you what other people in the mainstream media are looking at when they see you.
So, you know, you can come up with any justifications you like, but their perception is that this is all coming from you guys, and they characterize it as vile racist abuse.
So, and you know, honestly, looking through her tweets, this is why the stream is late, because I was reading stuff, and it does look like it's all coming from alt-right.
It looks like it's being justified as their part of the culture war.
You know, oh, well, we can attack this person because she's in the enemy.
And it's like, well, I don't agree.
So, yeah, it's.
There was something in here I was going to talk about, but I can't remember what it is.
Yeah, okay.
It's interesting how this person has said what's striking, most striking, is how much the alt-right shares in common with the lefty SJWs.
It claims to hate.
And I hate to say it, but I'm ahead of the fucking curve.
You guys can complain about being called right-wing SJWs by me, but that doesn't make it untrue.
I mean, you're acting just like the SJWs.
You're attacking someone on Twitter in mobs.
I mean, that's literally what they do.
You know, and then they do it for white men.
And you're doing it for a black woman.
You know, you are doing the same thing in principle.
For Christ's sake.
And so, yeah, this guy says, SJWs claim a massive culture of misogyny has ruined their lives.
Alt-writers insist a feminist conspiracy is destroying theirs.
I'm not sure they'd characterise it as feminist.
There'd be some echo quotes around that feminist, I think.
But both are mean.
Peruse the blogs or tweets of any vocal alt-writer or SJW, and you'd be struck by their disgust at anyone who disagrees with them.
And that's true.
That's really true.
And both are censorious, and that's true as well.
This is very interesting, actually.
I was going to talk about this a while ago.
Like I said, I watched Ramsey Paul, and a while back, a few probably weeks now, he put out a video called, I can't remember the title now, but it was about how he didn't like white nationalism.
He just liked nationalism.
Because white nationalists are very controlling, and he likened them to the SJWs.
And they want to dictate your life and all aspects of your life.
And my goodness, the response.
I mean, Ramsey Paul is officially a cuck, but who isn't?
Everyone is a fucking cuck.
Honestly, I wonder, like, if the alt-right cuck is like priests and gays.
They condemn, condemn, condemn, but secretly, if you go through the browser history.
Anyway, again, hashtag not all, though.
You know, there are people in the alt-right that I quite like.
Like I said, I watch Ramsay Paul, so it's not, you know, it's not the whole thing, but there is, I think, a certain culture there that is kind of, and again, in a lot of ways, I think this is some sort of, like, this is some sort of effect of an ideological echo chamber.
When you've got people who are all basically saying the same things to each other all day, then like with Black Lives Matter, you know, it's just they're gonna say it enough until everyone actually believes it and then someone then acts on it.
And I think this is one of those cases.
I mean, for the alt-right, it's obviously not shooting someone, so that's fine.
You know, it's not, you know, I'm not suggesting they're anywhere near as bad as Black Lives Matter.
But, you know, I think it's the same effect, it's just a lot lower.
And I mean, I'm not saying it's just, I'm not saying other communities aren't susceptible to it.
I'm sure my community is, you know, the sort of channel I have, I bet it's susceptible to it as well, you know?
Or at least to some degree, and so, you know, I guess it's something to watch out for, isn't it?
But yeah, I mean, this is not like something that's going terribly well, in my opinion, this culture war.
I really think that bad tactics are being used constantly.
And the SJWs will lose it if we don't act like SJWs.
Just the people fighting it.
Not just like...
I mean, not the...
Obviously, I don't get speech for the alt-right, but or anyone, really.
But I think it would be more sensible if we were to, you know, not do this.
If everyone were to not do this.
You know, I mean, and this is something that affects everyone.
Like I said, this is going to cause censorship of the internet.
So why are you doing it?
You know, can you not see any further than your own nose?
But again, like I said, this isn't to say that Leslie Jones is entirely innocent.
She did, after getting all this, do the same thing.
So she encouraged her followers to attack the people tweeting her.
And what kind of annoys me, that's not actually centered, is it?
You probably can't see it, but she incites someone to incites her followers to target someone.
But what annoys me is when people are like, oh, they said Uncle Tom Cavebeast or you know, to Milo or this, you know, Getter.
Yeah, okay, they are being hypocrites, but and that is bad, but a lot worse, they're responding to a lot worse things, and so it's not the worst thing in the world.
I wish it was, you know, I wish it was like, yeah, look at you, giant hypocrites.
But, yeah, okay, they're being hypocrites, but there are more important things going on at the moment, aren't there?
But, um, right, so let's talk about ISIS then.
And let's talk about Twitter's policy, because, and the consistency with which they apply it.
Now, back in February, they shut down 125,000 ISIS-linked accounts.
This comes as they had to be sued to do this.
In January, the wife of an American citizen who was killed in an ISIS bombing in Jordan filed a court case against Twitter, blaming them for her husband's death, saying, Without Twitter, the explosive growth of ISIS over the last few years into the most feared terrorist group in the world would not have been possible.
Now, I think it's very, very interesting that a few racist tweets is enough to get someone unrelated to the actual racist tweets banned, but it takes legal action to get Twitter to censor ISIS.
I mean, that's I mean, that blows my mind.
Anything connected to ISIS is not being like, you know, instantly just blocked.
I mean, why are you allowing to why are you allowing the worst terrorist group in the world to propagate their material and their propaganda?
And it is amazing propaganda, apparently.
I've seen parts of it.
I mean, I can't speak Arabic, so I don't know how convincing it is, but it's apparently very good propaganda.
And so, I mean, it looks polished.
When you look at it, it looks like a modern, you know, it looks like an SJW-style video a lot of the time.
So, yeah, why are they allowing this to be spread?
And it takes a lawsuit to get them to stop.
That amazes me.
And so, Twitter are taking action, and they're trying to figure out a way to solve this problem.
And honestly, I think at this point they should.
And not really because I care about it either.
I don't really care about anything that happens on Twitter.
In my opinion, just fucking turn it off.
Just do something else.
Use Facebook.
I don't know.
It's just people being dicks on the internet.
Just fucking let it go.
But anyway, they're doing this verification process where what they're going to do is allow everyone, basically, to get verified.
I think there is still a barrier to it, so you're going to have to have a reason and a few other things like this.
But basically, you're going to find most people verified and very few not.
And I imagine this is to give them the ability to have the function.
I'm not verified on Twitter, so I only know this because people who are verified have said.
But you get the ability to follow, to get notifications from only verified accounts, which is probably going to be quite useful for most people if they don't want to see troll accounts.
Because if people have to give their personal details to get these verified accounts, and I believe that they do, then you are not going to send racist things because you'll probably be charged with some kind of hate crime somewhere.
So it's very easy for you to actually suffer real-world consequences for this.
Do I think this is a good idea?
It's voluntary, so yes.
You don't have to be verified.
Basically, I think verified is the wrong term for it.
Well, no, I suppose the right term, but it's the wrong connotation because verified at the moment has the connotation, it's got prestige.
You know, if someone's verified, it's something that sets you above the herd.
But when the herd's all verified, then it becomes, well, obviously, a lot more egalitarian, a lot less prestigious.
In fact, it's barely prestigious at all.
And it's just going to create the sort of non-verified counts as being like, you know, considered just universally troll accounts.
And so I think this is a good idea because people who don't mind getting messages from non-verified accounts can get them.
But the trolls and people who are just signing up sock puppets to do stuff, they're not going to have verified accounts.
They're not going to be interfering.
This might actually be a good solution, is what I'm saying.
And I don't think it's mandatory.
It might be, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's not mandatory.
So if it's voluntary, you don't have to sign up to it.
You can still use Twitter.
The people who want their safe space can have it.
I think this is a good solution.
And at least it's got the potential to be a good solution.
I don't really see the problem with it.
So hopefully this is a good solution.
And I think that's about all I have to say.
Yeah, I don't see the need for any of this, really.
is honestly my biggest concern is it's just going to cause censorship of the internet that's I mean obviously I Milo wasn't banned justly but Leslie I can't remember her surname Leslie Jones was being treated rather badly by a community on the internet, or as so it appears.
And again, even if I'm wrong, that's going to be the mainstream media narrative.
And you know what they're like with their narratives.
So, you know, that's what they're going to say.
And I don't even, like I said, I don't even know if they're wrong.
It seems like they're right.
And so, you know, you're not doing yourselves any favours, is what I'm saying to the alt-right on that one.
But yeah, and you're kind of just making things worse for everyone else.
Why are you doing this?
What good did you think this was going to do?
A few laughs is great, but you shouldn't tweet it out.
You know, just tweet each other.
It is pretty funny, a lot of it, in a really fucking racist way.
But yeah, this has just been a bad idea from start to finish.
And Twitter, banning Milo, you're idiots.
You're making him famous.
You're making him famous by banning him.
I don't mean to actually give away the secret, but I didn't realize it was a fucking secret.
I thought it was the most obvious thing in the world that a man looking for attention, giving him that attention is what he wants.
Even negative attention, like banning him, is very good for him because he's going to become, he's already famous and he's going to become more famous.
And you've facilitated that and you're probably driving people away from your platform.
And you've really got to start on doing this and just actually being specific with who you ban.
this looks like a grudge so you don't want to do you want that I mean, is that a sensible thing to do?
Just, he didn't incite them.
He didn't incite them.
I mean, if you look at any of the articles with his tweets, there are people in the comments going, I don't know anything about this.
What exactly is wrong with these tweets?
Because there is nothing wrong with these tweets.
There was just him being a dick.
That's it.
And being a dick is not hate speech.
It's not incitement.
It's just how some people are allowed to act.
And it's just how some people choose to act, and they are allowed to act that way, is what I meant to say there.
But yeah, I guess this is what I get for starting a fucking live stream at like half 11 at night.
Smoking for fun.
But yeah, so I'm not.
I'm not really in favour of talking about Twitch drama.
I'm not really in favour.
I'm definitely not in favour of sending a woman really demeaning tweets just because you don't like the political opinion she has and she's in a movie you didn't like.
I don't agree with banning Milo.
And I mean, the only thing I do agree with is Twitter verifying accounts whoever wants to be verified because it might actually solve some of these problems, but just this is just a clusterfug.
Nothing good comes of this.
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