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July 2, 2016 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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Ramble： the Use of Inductive Reasoning
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So I'm just going to do this, where I'm just going to reply to this comment, because I'm amazed someone has missed the point of what I'm saying so much to the point where they think this.
And so I'm not blaming this person.
Obviously, I'm not communicating myself very well.
And so I'd like to rectify that.
So he's replying to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump video.
And this is going to be a complete ramble.
I'm sorry about this.
But he doesn't think I'm making a good argument here.
And I want to explain what I'm doing.
I'm using inductive reasoning, not deductive reasoning.
Now, the difference there is that what I'm saying is either generally or probably true, rather than being necessarily true, from the premises that we can be sure of.
I'm suggesting something that basically is logically going to or likely to happen in the future.
And I've been doing this a lot with the EU as well.
And I really think that we can do this quite strongly with a lot of the things that we know.
But again, I could be wrong on any of these things in the future.
I wasn't wrong about the assassination or attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
I predicted this because if you see these basic premises, then they will eventually probably lead to these conclusions.
we see this pattern over and over and over in history.
it's not that much of a chunk.
This is what I don't get the whole, Oh, that's a conspiracy.
And what?
What do you mean it's a conspiracy theory?
This is what happens when these circumstances occur.
I mean, we see it quite often.
So I'm just baffled that people think they won't happen in future for some reason.
And I think that this comment definitely misses the point of what I'm doing.
So, for example, in the last video, I'll leave a link in the description so you can see if you haven't seen it for some reason.
He says, one, proof of mental illness in the past gives context, but not the deciding factor behind his deeds.
Well, okay.
I didn't say it wasn't the defining factor.
I said, I think it's a contributing factor.
He may or may not be manipulated to get the idea of motivation fueling his actions.
It's still to be discovered.
That's true.
But we have a very large group of people that we know are very, very anti-Trump to absurd proportions.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
And a bunch of them were just sat there going, well, yeah, he's going to be assassinated.
He's going to be assassinated.
Everyone hates him.
Everyone hates him to a ridiculous, crazy, extremely extreme degree.
Is it any wonder that some guy who might have mental health problems falls in a crowd like that and then it gets kind of persuaded that way?
If they're sat there baking in their echo chamber these ideas and just bouncing off each other constantly, I hate Trump more, I hate Trump more.
And then it becomes like virtue signaling to hate Trump in a lot of ways.
And it just like, oh, I hate Trump the most.
You know, I'd do this, I'd do that.
People adds, man.
This is the sort of thing that we see them doing.
This is why they don't like being videoed.
His parents are not medical workers, and they cannot with great certainty prove that he wasn't manipulated.
Well, I know.
I'm talking about things that are potentially possible, but I also think probably quite likely.
And again, it's not like this is the first we've ever seen of social justice or SJWs as they operate in groups, alright?
We've got quite a large body of evidence to see how this mindset works.
Without proof, all of this is speculation.
Well, yes, I did say I was conjecturing.
Throwing hate towards someone with huge gaps in reasoning and concrete evidence is pure extremism.
Okay.
I mean, this is the point where we need to stop.
I didn't, I don't hate him.
I don't know him.
I don't care about him.
But he did try to assassinate someone.
And I think he did it because he had some fucking crazy ideas in his head about saving America from Donald Trump.
And if there's one thing we know, then the SJWs do think that America is going to be destroyed by Donald Trump.
They're all like, I'm going to move to Canada.
What the fuck do they think is going to happen in America that's going to make them need to move to Canada?
But anyway, let's talk about the hate thing.
You shouldn't hate anyone.
Anyone at all.
I don't hate anyone.
There's no point hating people.
That's just a waste of time, to be honest.
Right?
You're not...
And, like, look at this.
Are we supposed to hate that guy's girlfriend?
No.
No, you're not meant to hate anyone.
If anything, you should probably feel sorry for them, but I don't blame people if they get fucking annoyed with them in the heat of the moment.
But no, you're not meant to hate anyone.
Obviously.
Jesus, why would you even think you're meant to hate someone?
And this is the thing that I'm really guilty of.
In my last few videos, he thinks he's better than the members of the opposing team.
Well, I'm sorry, in a lot of cases, I am better than them.
In a lot of cases, I am.
Man.
Okay, I don't think you should go around throwing hate at people and making up things about them.
You know, I don't go around calling fucking Richard Dawkins a white nationalist.
But these fucks do.
And then they think that's perfectly good reason to attack him on social media or wherever.
This is the sort of thing these people do.
And you're like, well, you think you're better than them.
Yes, I fucking think I'm better than them.
I think that's wrong.
I think they're doing bad things.
Like John Cleves was saying, it gives them moral justification.
They think they're good people after doing terrible things to other people who don't deserve terrible things being done to them.
Yes, I think I'm better than them because I don't do that, man.
And neither.
I'm sure you don't.
I'm sure fucking nobody who watches this channel does, probably.
You know, why would they?
You'd be the sort of person who'd hate me.
Because I'm going, well, look, if we're talking about moral high ground here, which many of them, that's almost their entire movement, is based on the idea someone else should feel guilty towards them.
That's the point of victimology.
So it is important to establish that you are in fact a better person than they are because that's something they can't beat you on then.
You've just won.
That's the argument.
But either way, I am a better person than them, man.
And I don't mean to sound like a cock when I say that.
But I'm not fucking perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
But I don't go around screaming people's faces and preventing them from fucking having their meetings, giving speeches.
I don't try and get people fired.
It's just such a shitty thing that they do all the time.
They're constant racists, sexists, bigots.
And you think you're better than them.
Yeah, I'm sorry, man.
And then this, he thinks his logic and reason is superior.
No.
I don't think that my logic and reason are superior.
I think my moral actions are superior.
I mean, I think their logic and reason is pretty flawed in a lot of cases, but I don't think that they are, like, inherently inferior in that way.
I think they've just gone down the wrong path.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people have gone down this wrong path and have come back and gone, no, that was actually crazy shit.
This is at least more sensible.
You know, without or ignoring part of the evidence is seen more often to the point, what am I ignoring?
What evidence am I ignoring?
If you've got more evidence about this kid, I want to see it.
This is everything I could find because fuck all people were reporting on it.
It wasn't, you know, they were like fucking what?
Like one article in each thing and it was basically a cut and paste fucking article.
From the independent to the Guardian, you know, conservative to fucking liberal, you know, it just, it was, nobody wanted to talk about it.
Because everyone in the mainstream media hates Trump and they don't want to make a big deal out of this, I reckon.
But you say he never tries to put himself in more than one perspective.
And I'm like, well, I'm actually trying to find the kid's perspective.
Why this guy did this?
And I think this guy did this because someone's fed him a bunch of SJW nonsense and he has mental illnesses.
I mean, I just think this fits, don't you?
Doesn't this seem like it...
I mean, is there anything I'm missing from this guy's story that actually means that it can't be this?
You know, that it was a lot less likely to be this, or just at all less likely to be this.
You know, he just seems like some, he was living in a car, so fucking, who fucking knows?
But, I mean, surely he must have had friends.
Surely he must have hung out with people, and I think that we can probably, probably guess that these people hated Donald Trump, because, like his dad said, he never talked about Trump.
He never talks about, he never talks about anything until he went to America to chase after some girl and then suddenly he is a radicalized Trump-hating lunatic who's prepared to try and assassinate him when he's not even armed.
And apparently he said, according to the Telegraph article he said that he thought I think it was a Telegraph article where he said he was expecting to die in the attempt.
And it's like fucking hell.
I mean I could.
I know how someone could get radicalized into a left-wing cult that could engender this kind of attitude.
And I think I laid it out.
That was the point, you know.
I mean, like I said, I was conjecturing whether she was an SJW, but it would not surprise me at all.
Why would it surprise you?
But you see this as being like an order to hate someone.
It's like, no no, you shouldn't be hating anyone.
That's surely that's the problem with the SJWs.
It's the fact they just hate people irrationally.
Don't get me wrong.
I know I get pissed off when I'm doing this.
Sometimes maybe I should tone it down, but you know, come on.
But I don't know, maybe I'm only looking at it from like, my point of view and trying to look at it from his point of view.
Maybe I should be looking at it from more than that for some reason.
So you say, and in previous videos, logic jumps and conclusions without, or ignoring part of the evidence.
Okay, what am I ignoring?
And i'm not being a dick when I ask this because I may have missed something that you know, that I don't, which is entirely possible.
And if you do know something I don't, i'd like to know.
I don't think I ignored anything that I know of, at least, you know, not without good reason.
So I mean i'm genuinely curious.
I mean i'm thinking about, like the Brexit stuff and i'm just thinking about the arguments I saw from remain, and they were all bad.
And then, whenever i'd address any of them, someone that you get the one guy who was like well, you're just picking the low-hanging fruits.
I'm like Jesus Christ, this is coming out of the mouth of fucking David Cameron or something.
You know it's.
I mean what.
You know who's making the better arguments?
You know why is.
Why isn't the the guy with the biggest voice making the good arguments?
You know I, I don't.
I don't know who i'm supposed to be addressing in those cases.
You know, it's just.
I don't know I I never heard a good one for rain.
It was always just arguing for money.
It was arguing for direct self-interest.
It's like, no, i'm i'm trying to argue for a point of principle saying well yeah, but we're, we're going to make a bit more money if we don't do that.
Well, I don't think that's a good argument.
I mean, you're not even arguing against the point I'm making.
You're just saying, ignore this because it will be easier.
And I don't think that it's a good idea to just take the path of least resistance every time.
I think sometimes some things are worth a more difficult and more resistant path.
And this is one of those things.
I genuinely think this is one of those things that maybe a little hardship now will be good for us in the long run.
You know, I genuinely think that.
And I think that's good reason as well.
I mean, no one talks about the rosy future of the EU.
You know, nobody.
Not even Juncker himself says, well, you know, the EU's past its prime.
It's, you know, Europe's seen better days.
It's like, look, that's not a good advertisement I want out, if that's your opinion.
But for future in Europe, I don't want to be part of that.
I want the uncertainty.
Thank you.
Anyway.
So, and under the legion of lemmings behind him, he is slowly becoming a leader of a popularistic blind cult.
Well, I mean, that's what I'm trying to avoid.
I mean, that's what this video is hopefully helping towards doing, is avoiding this.
Because I think that maybe there are other people who have this missing apprehension, and I hope that I can correct it, or correct myself.
If I can't, like, if there is something else, you can leave me a comment.
I read my comments, as I hope this video demonstrates.
The comments are always up.
I always get amazed when someone's like, oh, this is your echo chamber.
I said, what the fuck are you talking about?
The comments and ratings are on all of my videos.
I read the comments.
I respond to the comments.
I listen to what people say, and I actually try and take it on board.
And I live in a fucking echo chamber, do I?
I don't know what I'm supposed to do then.
You tell me.
Tell me what I'm supposed to fucking do.
If that's living in an echo chamber.
Jesus Christ.
So yeah, and I like to keep an eye on people that preach that kind of thing.
Well, fuck me.
I do have some prayer beads.
Maybe I can get the little fucking necktie.
Get a pulpit.
Because I can learn how to adapt, fight, or avoid these kind of people.
You could click the unsubscribe button if you want me.
I don't mind.
It's up to you.
You know, if this is how you think.
I mean, I'm glad that you've left this comment because I would like to know what you think.
I want to be able to self-assess and say, no, look, I actually think I can back up what I'm saying.
Here's what my rationales are.
You can leave a fucking comment and tell me how I'm wrong if you want.
More than welcome.
But I do think that I can back up what I'm saying.
And I think the fact that someone tried to kill Donald Trump is one of those examples where you can use inductive reasoning for useful purposes.
Look, we can see what's going on, man.
Can't you see what's going on?
How much of this do you have to see before we start just saying, okay, well, look, there seems to be a direct causal effect of these ideas that Trump is somehow representative of white patriarchal capitalistic supremacy over black people.
An oppressive force designed to keep them down.
And then Bernie Sanders, the white patriarchal man who's not the representation of this force, apparently.
Even though he is exactly what they're fucking complaining about.
It's fucking moronic.
OK, it's just but we can tell that they get fucking obsessed by.
I mean, they're saying it themselves.
Oh, yeah, assassination.
So many people hate him.
So many people hate him.
Man, they are saying it.
Okay?
They.
They're going off the fucking rails.
In fact, there was a fucking Facebook post the other day that, since I'm doing this ramble, I may as well...
Yeah, right.
So it's from the Facebook page UC Berkeley Confessions.
So apparently it's something called BAM, B-A-M-N.
I'm not going to bother fucking getting a screenshot because I'm too lazy and it's too late.
So letter from UCB alum Jevon.
I'm running with students for a Democratic University as a student advocate and I'm a member, ex-member of BAM.
I think I can give a little bit of an insider's perspective as why it's not a good idea to have dealings with this organization.
The dislike that most people have for the activist community on campus have of BAM stems from the fact that they are very sectarian, undemocratic and obnoxious.
If the problems with BAM stopped there, I would be for working with them.
However, internally, that organization is a lot more corrupt than people realize.
The organization is tightly controlled by two members, the president, Shanta, and another founding member, Leyland.
There is no democracy in the organization.
Members are encouraged to follow whatever perspective and course of action that Shanta and Leyland put forward.
When disagreements arise between base members of the group and leadership, that is when things get scary.
In order to coerce people into doing what they want to do at the leadership's command, this organization engages in a whole host of disgusting behaviour, like physically dragging people into meetings and political events, denouncing members who disagree as crazy or suicidal, and then encouraging them to take unprescribed medication.
Stealing money ID cards, blah, blah.
The way the organization makes this possible is often by convincing members to abandon their lives and come living BAM households.
Okay, do you see where this is going?
You know, this is a social justice organization.
This is what's being produced on university campuses.
This is, you have to understand, this shit's going too far.
Look at the anti-fascist movements.
Just look at them running around in red and black screaming that other people are the fascists.
Stabbing them, fucking, preventing them from congregating.
All that sort of stuff.
And other people are the fascists.
And it's just like, man.
I appreciate the skeptical ideas.
I appreciate the need to remain skeptical and to always inquire.
And I agree that self-inquiry is a good thing.
But I really think that we have a solid case for what I'm saying here.
And if you think we don't, please post in the comments.
I want to know.
Post me some links.
If it snatches them, I'll go into the thing and unblock the comments.
But, and tell, you know, yeah, seriously, tell me if you think I'm fucking wrong, but I mean, how else are we supposed to interpret all this?
You know, it looks like a cult has formed, a radical Marxist cult, and they're going to be, they're inventing fascists to fight.
Because that's what these things look for.
That's what they traditionally have always fought.
You know, but yeah, like I said, if you think I'm wrong, tell me.
I'll hear about it.
And I'm sure I'm going to regret making a video of me rambling for 15 minutes.
Well, no, fucking 20 minutes almost.
At 4 in the morning.
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