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June 13, 2016 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
11:08
Islam Does Not Permit Homosexuality
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In light of recent events, I thought it might be useful to demonstrate the Islamic perspective on homosexuality.
Like all Abrahamic faiths, Islam explicitly forbids any kind of homosexual activity.
Naturally then, this is the position espoused by leading Islamic scholars.
Brothers asked a question that recently in India, homosexuality has been permitted, not permitted, but the law says it's not a big crime that was there in the Indian constitution.
They have softened it, not permitted yet.
It is a court case that took place in Delhi.
It's not a law yet.
There's a woo and cry yet.
There are many organizations fighting against it.
So no law.
It's a law in Canada, in USA, in UK, not in India yet.
And today, there are some scientific research that say that homosexuality is genetic.
So the brother asked the question, if homosexuality is genetic, then who's to blame?
How can you consider it to be a sin?
Very good question.
This research was done earlier, a few years back, and later on, what was found out that this is totally false.
And the person who propounded this himself was homosexual.
So there's no scientific proof yet.
It's an assumption.
Science doesn't testify yet that homosexuality is genetic.
In fact, the Quran says in Surah Araf, chapter number 7, verse number 81, which says that do you have lust for men more in preference to women to homosexuality?
Talking about Qome Lut.
It is prohibited in the Bible also talking about Lut al-Isalam.
Also in the Quran it's prohibited.
Homosexuality is prohibited completely.
That was the opinion of a very famous and apparently quite popular Islamic scholar called Zakir Naik.
I don't know how conservative he's considered within the Islamic world, but this seems to be the standard line on homosexuality from Muslim scholars who do public speaking.
Even with those who are less inclined to give a dogmatic interpretation, the answer is still homosexuality is immoral.
You can sit, not only table manners, but at the same time talk, speak, let them open up, how was your day, oh, and do not blast a child when they come up with some negativity, but teach them.
Because if the child says, Dad, today I met a few people, you know what?
They're gay.
I don't know why I'm raising this issue every time, but anyway, it's a problem of the age.
And you say, what?
You get up from your seat.
You dare see those people again.
Okay, okay, okay.
That okay was connected to your temper, not connected to the brain.
Have you understood that?
So do not treat your children that way.
You engage them in discussion.
Sometimes we don't have the time to engage our children in discussion, but we've got the time to think up how to expand our business.
What's the point of a successful businessman?
And yet his house is totally out of order.
So we need to guide our children, talk to them.
The point I've raised, I'm sure you've picked it up, is that when your child comes up with something negative, in order to maintain the home and protect it from defragmenting or fragmenting, you need to communicate with the child, engage the child in a beautiful discussion, spend the time.
When you hear that type of statement from your child, it will tell you, I need to have two meals now with my children, not just one.
That was a chap called Mufti Mek, who I've got to say, I actually really personally quite like.
I agree with him on many of the moral principles he espouses and the very sort of down-to-earth way he wants to try and help out other Muslims.
But on the issue of homosexuality, he automatically considers it a negative.
It's just assumed that this is a bad thing and you need to have a productive dialogue with your children to prevent them from coverting or associating with homosexuals.
But that's because the Quran is quite specific on the issue of homosexuality.
This is a progressive apologist trying to somehow twist an interpretation of the Quran that is in fact pro-homosexuality.
In the past couple of months, we have received quite a few questions from you, our viewers, on the issue of homosexuality.
How is homosexuality discussed in the Quran?
As a community, how can we promote an inclusive environment for all while still staying true to our beliefs and values?
The story of the Prophet Lot and his people is often cited as referring to homosexual behavior.
But in fact, what is given in the Quran is a long list of crimes that these people have committed and for which eventually they were punished.
Homosexual acts only being one of those in the list of crimes that they have committed.
That is still a statement to say that homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of God.
He killed the people of Sodom for many reasons, one of which was homosexuality.
So can Muslims say that they have they're someone who identifies with not necessarily with a homosexual orientation, per se?
Well, the Quran does not actually go into details about the difference between the orientation and the intimate act.
And so to differentiate between the two, we must draw on modern views, especially scientific views and other discussions about the origins of homosexual orientation.
So what is recognized widely in modern times is that a person may feel a certain attraction to a person of the same sex.
In fact, we know that in traditional times, people just thought of male and female as being dichotomous, either male or female.
Now we know that there is a wide range of variation among human beings and some are very macho male and some are very feminine and in between you have some blurring of the distinctions.
So they have social justice infecting Islam.
But what does the Quran have to say about this?
It seems that the Quran also takes note of this possibility that some people are not attracted to persons of the other sex.
In the Quran, in the 24th chapter, some mention is made of those persons to whom a woman would be allowed to reveal some of the parts of her body or some of her beauty, as the Quran puts it in this verse.
So obviously with different degrees of allowability, the Quran mentions, for example, children, and then it mentions also the male servants who have no need of women.
So eunuchs, then.
Male slaves who have been castrated so they can no longer have sex with women, it would be okay for them to be gay, would it?
Honestly, I think saying that it's something to be punished, but it's not the most great punishment, and it's okay if eunuchs do it, is not really very good apologetics.
And it doesn't really seem to be persuading the wider Muslim world, who think in many cases that you cannot be gay and a Muslim.
How can you engage yourselves with the same sex?
How can you engage in acts of immorality with the same sex?
And how can you prefer them over the females?
Indeed, you are a people who have transgressed the limits of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.
Let us pause there for a moment.
Today we have people claiming to be Muslims.
And I've heard one of them on YouTube recently who says, no, I've studied the Quran.
I studied the Quran totally and in the Quran what is prohibited is to rape the men but if it is done with consent there's nothing wrong.
This is what they say.
How foolish they are, how foolish they are when Lud is saying you prefer to do this with men and you are leaving the women.
Does that imply that he is saying don't rape the men, rape the women?
Is that what he's trying to say?
So the Quran clearly says that it is wrong what you are doing.
They did it both ways through rape as well as through consent.
Both.
But they only did it with the same kind.
Allahu Akbar.
And Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala speaks about how filthy this is.
You know, I've given you one response, but that is the whole basis upon which people claim to still be Muslim and they believe that the Quran does not reject this issue of homosexuality.
Well, they don't understand Arabic, they haven't understood anything that the Quran has come with.
And to be honest, they are blinded because the Quran says when someone begins to engage in this type of action, Allah says it and we will come to that verse.
They become blind.
Blind meaning they can't see the right from wrong.
Nothing at all.
Considering homosexuality immoral is the norm throughout the Islamic world.
With 88% of all Muslims, that's over a billion people, thinking that homosexuality is immoral.
And since you have such a high number of people who think homosexuality is immoral, is it any wonder that almost every Muslim country has laws against homosexuality?
With at least five countries imposing the death penalty for homosexuality.
And in Muslim-majority nations where it isn't actually against the law, you have places like Egypt where gays have been the victims of laws against morality.
Homosexuality is simply not accepted in the Middle East.
And that doesn't surprise me one bit.
I'm sure that there are going to be various apologists going, yes, but Christianity, Christianity.
And yes, it's probably because Islam is so heavily plagiarized from Christianity that homosexuality is also considered bad.
The countries marked in green on this map have signed a General Assembly Declaration of LGBT rights and will sponsor the Human Rights Council in 2011.
The countries marked in red have signed a counter statement opposing LGBT rights.
That is how anti-homosexuality the Islamic world is.
So when a Turkish newspaper prints the headline, 50 perverts killed in a bar, you shouldn't be surprised.
This is the most common point of view in Turkey.
When an Islamic cleric visits Orlando and preaches at a mosque and says that people who are homosexual should be put to death and he says that this is a compassionate thing to do, you shouldn't be surprised.
This is Islam.
This comes directly from the Quran.
By asserting that homosexuality is wrong and according to the Quran, gay people should be put to death for their own good.
That makes them orthodox Muslims.
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